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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 21:44:09 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01D7143A.417F4F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Humble apologies that I could not make it to the Friday presentations. = I did work alone at the IETF 110 hackathon and added my slides to the = repo: = https://github.com/IETF-Hackathon/ietf110-project-presentations/blob/main= /p4-vpp.pdf Thanks to Charles for his help. Any questions regarding my work, please email. Best wishes, Hemant -----Original Message----- From: hackathon On Behalf Of Charles Eckel = (eckelcu) Sent: Monday, March 08, 2021 9:50 AM To: hackathon@ietf.org Subject: [hackathon] Hackathon presentations, survey, and draft Congratulation to everyone on another productive IETF Hackathon and = thank you to everyone who participated and thereby contributed to its = success. Special thanks to the project champions and to those who shared = their team's results in Friday's Hackathon closing. Project summaries presentations are available at = https://github.com/IETF-Hackathon/ietf110-project-presentations. This = GitHub repository remains open for anyone who wants to upload or update = their presentation. For those of you who missed it, the Hackathon closing was recorded and = is available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPe7Q53P3iQs. While everything is still fresh in your mind, I would greatly appreciate = it if you could do a couple things for me. 1) Share your thoughts in this year's Hackathon by completing the short = survey: https://ietf.iad1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_07yIblomPdYctBs 2) Have a look at the following short draft, which has been written to = document how to run the IETF Hackathon and help facilitate future = Hackathon. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 16:03:30 -0000 Hello, Just wondering how people have been doing interop testing in remote hackathons so far, what would be the best practices? For my use case the simplest thing would be to have a common server where a KVM image would be instantiated and other KVM instances or even host processes could connect to it over kernel switch. Anything like this available? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 20:51:51 -0000 Charles,=20 these are great initiatives, but shouldn't we simply rely on the champions = to provide the env for interop testing? Cheers,=20 Pierre. ----- Mail original ----- > De: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" > =C3=80: "Juhamatti Kuusisaari" , hackathon@ietf.org > Envoy=C3=A9: Jeudi 11 Mars 2021 21:47:50 > Objet: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network > Hi Juhamatti, >=20 > Shared compute resources were made available at some previous in person > hackathons, but that practice stoped due to low utilization. > For recent online only hackathons, we have provided remote networking opt= ions, > as described here, > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eckel-shmoo-ietf-hackathon-03= #section-6.8 >=20 > We ran into some complications that resulted in these services not being > available for IETF 110, but we intend to offer something comparable for f= uture > hackathons. If so, would this work for the interop testing you have in mi= nd? >=20 > Cheers, > Charles >=20 >=EF=BB=BFOn 3/11/21, 8:06 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Juhamatti Kuusisaari= " >=EF=BB=BF wrot= e: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > Just wondering how people have been doing interop testing in remote > hackathons so far, what would be the best practices? For my use case > the simplest thing would be to have a common server where a KVM image > would be instantiated and other KVM instances or even host processes > could connect to it over kernel switch. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 23:15:53 -0000 Hello! Please remove me from the mailing list. > 12 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=82=D0=B0 2021 =D0=B3., =D0=B2 00:22, Charles Ecke= l (eckelcu) =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1= =81=D0=B0=D0=BB(=D0=B0): >=20 > =EF=BB=BFPierre, >=20 > Thanks, and yes, ultimately it is up to the project champions and the rest= of the team to determine how they want to work and what tools they want to u= se. A goal of the hackathon is to provide an environment and tools that can b= e helpful. >=20 > Cheers, > Charles >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn 3/11/21, 12:52 PM, "Pierre Francois" wrote: >=20 > Charles,=20 >=20 > these are great initiatives, but shouldn't we simply rely on the champi= ons to provide the env for interop testing? >=20 > Cheers,=20 >=20 > Pierre. >=20 > ----- Mail original ----- >> De: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" >> =C3=80: "Juhamatti Kuusisaari" , hackathon@ietf.org >> Envoy=C3=A9: Jeudi 11 Mars 2021 21:47:50 >> Objet: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network >=20 >> Hi Juhamatti, >>=20 >> Shared compute resources were made available at some previous in person >> hackathons, but that practice stoped due to low utilization. >> For recent online only hackathons, we have provided remote networking opt= ions, >> as described here, >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eckel-shmoo-ietf-hackathon-03= #section-6.8 >>=20 >> We ran into some complications that resulted in these services not being >> available for IETF 110, but we intend to offer something comparable for f= uture >> hackathons. If so, would this work for the interop testing you have in mi= nd? >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Charles >>=20 >> On 3/11/21, 8:06 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Juhamatti Kuusisaari" >> wrote: >>=20 >> Hello, >>=20 >> Just wondering how people have been doing interop testing in remote >> hackathons so far, what would be the best practices? For my use case >> the simplest thing would be to have a common server where a KVM image >> would be instantiated and other KVM instances or even host processes >> could connect to it over kernel switch. 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I request you to= pl remove me from the mailing list, no more want to participate in hackath= on further.

 

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<= p class=3DMsoNormal>Anshumaan Kumar Prasad

SSTC, SSGI

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 06:49:55 -0000 --0000000000008bf69805bd514e11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Me too. Please remove my email from this mailing list. I have requested and unsubscribed it last year, but I still receive emails from you.I'm confused. Could you please manually remove my name from your systems instead of asking me to click on the link to do it. As I did it for a few times, but it still works. thank you! Alice =E1=90=A7 On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 6:57 PM Anshumaan Kumar Prasad < anshumaankrprasad76@gmail.com> wrote: > I request you to pl remove me from the mailing list, no more want to > participate in hackathon further. > > > > Thanks! > > > > *Anshumaan Kumar Prasad* > > *SSTC, SSGI* > > > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > -- --0000000000008bf69805bd514e11 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Me too. Please remove my email from this mailing list. I h= ave requested and unsubscribed it last year, but I still receive emails fro= m you.I'm confused. Could you please manually remove my name from your = systems instead of asking me to click on the link to do it. As I did it for= a few times, but it still works.=C2=A0

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Me too. Please unsubscribe me from your mailing list. Tha= nk you=C2=A0

On Fri, 12 Mar 2021, 08:50 Alice L, <aliceailiang@gmail.com> wrote:
Me too. Please remove my email from = this mailing list. I have requested and unsubscribed it last year, but I st= ill receive emails from you.I'm confused. Could you please manually rem= ove my name from your systems instead of asking me to click on the link to = do it. As I did it for a few times, but it still works.=C2=A0

thank you!=C2=A0
Alice=C2=A0=C2=A0
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 6:57 PM Anshumaan Kumar Prasad = <anshumaankrprasad76@gmail.com> wrote:

I request you to pl remove me from t= he mailing list, no more want to participate in hackathon further.

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Tha= nks!

=C2=A0

Anshumaan Kumar Prasad

SSTC, SSGI

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 10:32:55 -0000 Hello, On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 22:48, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) w= rote: > Shared compute resources were made available at some previous in person h= ackathons, but that practice stoped due to low utilization. > For recent online only hackathons, we have provided remote networking opt= ions, as described here, > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eckel-shmoo-ietf-hackathon-03= #section-6.8 Thanks for the draft link! So, NOC would then be a place to ask in advance for networking services. I could imagine some reasonably scaled cloud instance would also do fine, no need for actual HW in that sense. It would be nice if the IETF hackathon organization had some credits for those, through sponsors maybe? > We ran into some complications that resulted in these services not being = available for IETF 110, but we intend to offer something comparable for fut= ure hackathons. If so, would this work for the interop testing you have in = mind? I was thinking fairly simple TCP authentication option testing over e.g. IPv6 telnet, or whatever may work best for possible attendees. This does not need any fancy networking as such, only server-internal connectivity - a cloud instance that can run KVM instances (enough memory+cpus) would probably work fine for this. Cheers, -- Juhamatti > =EF=BB=BFOn 3/11/21, 8:06 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Juhamatti Kuusisaar= i" wrote: > > Hello, > > Just wondering how people have been doing interop testing in remote > hackathons so far, what would be the best practices? For my use case > the simplest thing would be to have a common server where a KVM image > would be instantiated and other KVM instances or even host processes > could connect to it over kernel switch. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 10:38:29 -0000 Hello, It is nice though that the draft has no requirement for champions to provide these resources. This way anyone can be the champion. BR, -- Juhamatti On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 23:21, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) w= rote: > > Pierre, > > Thanks, and yes, ultimately it is up to the project champions and the res= t of the team to determine how they want to work and what tools they want t= o use. A goal of the hackathon is to provide an environment and tools that = can be helpful. > > Cheers, > Charles > > =EF=BB=BFOn 3/11/21, 12:52 PM, "Pierre Francois" wrote: > > Charles, > > these are great initiatives, but shouldn't we simply rely on the cham= pions to provide the env for interop testing? > > Cheers, > > Pierre. > > ----- Mail original ----- > > De: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" > > =C3=80: "Juhamatti Kuusisaari" , hackathon@ietf= .org > > Envoy=C3=A9: Jeudi 11 Mars 2021 21:47:50 > > Objet: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network > > > Hi Juhamatti, > > > > Shared compute resources were made available at some previous in pe= rson > > hackathons, but that practice stoped due to low utilization. > > For recent online only hackathons, we have provided remote networki= ng options, > > as described here, > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eckel-shmoo-ietf-hackat= hon-03#section-6.8 > > > > We ran into some complications that resulted in these services not = being > > available for IETF 110, but we intend to offer something comparable= for future > > hackathons. If so, would this work for the interop testing you have= in mind? > > > > Cheers, > > Charles > > > >On 3/11/21, 8:06 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Juhamatti Kuusisaari" > > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Just wondering how people have been doing interop testing in rem= ote > > hackathons so far, what would be the best practices? For my use = case > > the simplest thing would be to have a common server where a KVM = image > > would be instantiated and other KVM instances or even host proce= sses > > could connect to it over kernel switch. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 10:49:21 -0000 Hi, Many cloud companies are usually happy to sponsor hackathons with cloud resources if asked appropriately and if these are efficiently used. Possibly a guide for Champions could be useful. Regards, Benson On 3/12/21 1:36 PM, Juhamatti Kuusisaari wrote: > Hello, > > It is nice though that the draft has no requirement for champions to > provide these resources. This way anyone can be the champion. > > BR, > -- > Juhamatti > > On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 23:21, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) wrote: >> >> Pierre, >> >> Thanks, and yes, ultimately it is up to the project champions and the rest of the team to determine how they want to work and what tools they want to use. A goal of the hackathon is to provide an environment and tools that can be helpful. >> >> Cheers, >> Charles >> >> On 3/11/21, 12:52 PM, "Pierre Francois" wrote: >> >> Charles, >> >> these are great initiatives, but shouldn't we simply rely on the champions to provide the env for interop testing? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Pierre. >> >> ----- Mail original ----- >> > De: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" >> > À: "Juhamatti Kuusisaari" , hackathon@ietf.org >> > Envoyé: Jeudi 11 Mars 2021 21:47:50 >> > Objet: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network >> >> > Hi Juhamatti, >> > >> > Shared compute resources were made available at some previous in person >> > hackathons, but that practice stoped due to low utilization. >> > For recent online only hackathons, we have provided remote networking options, >> > as described here, >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eckel-shmoo-ietf-hackathon-03#section-6.8 >> > >> > We ran into some complications that resulted in these services not being >> > available for IETF 110, but we intend to offer something comparable for future >> > hackathons. If so, would this work for the interop testing you have in mind? >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Charles >> > >> >On 3/11/21, 8:06 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Juhamatti Kuusisaari" >> > wrote: >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > Just wondering how people have been doing interop testing in remote >> > hackathons so far, what would be the best practices? For my use case >> > the simplest thing would be to have a common server where a KVM image >> > would be instantiated and other KVM instances or even host processes >> > could connect to it over kernel switch. Anything like this available? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > -- >> > Juhamatti >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > hackathon mailing list >> > hackathon@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > hackathon mailing list >> > hackathon@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >> > > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > From nobody Fri Mar 12 11:27:39 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339523A0743 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:27:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -17.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bH6WazGgSLVh for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lj1-x22f.google.com (mail-lj1-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F03A3A0657 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lj1-x22f.google.com with SMTP id s17so8425708ljc.5 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:27:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W+GNOB05eREkh4mQ1Ib2sOG/77b2T7vYVfybFRN9Ye8=; b=gudv/8T0LdC0VU04dAguH9jndHJ8Js5qODVYKe9B11VuBrbl2MlzRFMaSK5HKP46m9 Cv9ubtJxFQZP42NbMlPsg1hlFVOByAM9Qv8zBkHBPIHAz60PBW4PVom3Vdjh7frdSqHR mrMVRcqQ3JcCWjxjBxxpdQi1Loyf21M/HTUm+yvL4PoQ2FnSiDppOF18JemPhJBYNCMi xhRQHo47oUYwmtiwd3EiNcRSpwW/cXM1/9CipqfHmQP+sC4IhUG4Hzx/qUTD36tXsvKd kEzOhJYIQ396EcaJoYGu2/csxEec6ENzxZc+QFNY6chie2GpxlPzS3sGxeYJ7KrgPUxk vRjQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W+GNOB05eREkh4mQ1Ib2sOG/77b2T7vYVfybFRN9Ye8=; b=f7NE4zivD5qLA+J/9SjgHxa8BkkgPv53XyR9dfVVXIZbtSWREWrHtx5cuWDyLyZNq8 pTTowNxaAlM8j5rwvdYJ6i16r602nl5Q1JaedE+ZRkDIqEOlrhSz67mNZLz2TKOcdh/i lkt0GygmWK53YbG2ClivUTKY4Ws5kOVByC+jwPOysZ/gV0t7cM151BkzJtyt4YnOyrb5 M+Yd4VwRdxo+h6WYVy1o7uKb5LD8aJQMiFTMn+WV+BK4p9iUBlN3oNzJ5V9KcB9g+Q/t EeTJmL4zFTTZrsVMjYuge+WO2oDgKXmV37HaS0IXl8nw7sojvY42iPjnIxyLQfScYY3n PRmA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533n+9C3lm8G7wAkJWZGTNRqU14YqEtZOnnSht94nMPq5B6LR7/9 +RFQJuM+E7fIeIRqh2U7NnrBsxVnTi631MZLIQxUQw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyKh5eC6CmxUFKz2K+V4slfrHqoppxqa9Pg3nW0NeOKlO0Q3Rv9IXGfeKKQdvPgmG0PoTR2wDY4gXAwpJ4x+EM= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:482c:: with SMTP id 12mr431653lft.4.1615577252843; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:27:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <931B5336-CEAF-4029-AB75-399680A931C6@hxcore.ol> In-Reply-To: From: Chris Morrow Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 14:27:21 -0500 Message-ID: To: Alice L Cc: "hackathon@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hackathon] WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 19:27:37 -0000 On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 1:50 AM Alice L wrote: > > Me too. Please remove my email from this mailing list. I have requested a= nd unsubscribed it last year, but I still receive emails from you.I'm confu= sed. Could you please manually remove my name from your systems instead of = asking me to click on the link to do it. As I did it for a few times, but i= t still works. > I'm going to guess that since the 'hackathon' mailing list is not date/meeting specific each time you choose to come to a meeting and click: "I'd like to attend the hackathon" you end up re-added to the list. I don't recall if the signup had a 'sign up for hackathon !signup for hackathon@ emails' ... maybe that's a fair suggestion for Charles though? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 19:29:20 -0000 People need to learn how mailing lists work, please read the headers and click the included link to unsubscribe. On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 6:16 PM Badma Butaev wrote: > > Hello! > > Please remove me from the mailing list. > > > 12 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=82=D0=B0 2021 =D0=B3., =D0=B2 00:22, Charles E= ckel (eckelcu) =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0= =B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB(=D0=B0): > > > > =EF=BB=BFPierre, > > > > Thanks, and yes, ultimately it is up to the project champions and the r= est of the team to determine how they want to work and what tools they want= to use. A goal of the hackathon is to provide an environment and tools tha= t can be helpful. > > > > Cheers, > > Charles > > > > =EF=BB=BFOn 3/11/21, 12:52 PM, "Pierre Francois" wrote: > > > > Charles, > > > > these are great initiatives, but shouldn't we simply rely on the cha= mpions to provide the env for interop testing? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Pierre. > > > > ----- Mail original ----- > >> De: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" > >> =C3=80: "Juhamatti Kuusisaari" , hackathon@ietf.or= g > >> Envoy=C3=A9: Jeudi 11 Mars 2021 21:47:50 > >> Objet: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network > > > >> Hi Juhamatti, > >> > >> Shared compute resources were made available at some previous in perso= n > >> hackathons, but that practice stoped due to low utilization. > >> For recent online only hackathons, we have provided remote networking = options, > >> as described here, > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eckel-shmoo-ietf-hackathon= -03#section-6.8 > >> > >> We ran into some complications that resulted in these services not bei= ng > >> available for IETF 110, but we intend to offer something comparable fo= r future > >> hackathons. If so, would this work for the interop testing you have in= mind? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Charles > >> > >> On 3/11/21, 8:06 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Juhamatti Kuusisaari" > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> Just wondering how people have been doing interop testing in remote > >> hackathons so far, what would be the best practices? For my use case > >> the simplest thing would be to have a common server where a KVM imag= e > >> would be instantiated and other KVM instances or even host processes > >> could connect to it over kernel switch. Anything like this available= ? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> -- > >> Juhamatti > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> hackathon mailing list > >> hackathon@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> hackathon mailing list > >> hackathon@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > > > > _______________________________________________ > > hackathon mailing list > > hackathon@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon From nobody Fri Mar 12 11:55:32 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8A33A0D31 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:55:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AzTxJIwZhwjb for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pj1-x1032.google.com (mail-pj1-x1032.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1032]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DD693A0D20 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pj1-x1032.google.com with SMTP id q2-20020a17090a2e02b02900bee668844dso11237787pjd.3 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:55:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WECXL6irF5p5GgnYsM/QPZyf3DYQstZI8LKm+fK06U8=; b=pNeCv7ju74JZlFiUJGJe5eqK8QlGEbACZ5VoYAs7D2W0lmmhDyFjT5QvADKHZOUc4m 7ylUr4kKa8qhiAvSBY0lF0PpaJ2kUcgEYO3/iG9PeiVphoUu/reL0h52iPux2f+14Kth vKhba/9cQqNGDzLR9QaBfq7qKCCM7c7QUG2TpeB34mrFoiCvXXdhHRvOqcUBOKAZDsnU rseApGM3t5ilGQWPm1kHTr073SADyu0pdmmarbx9T2yv7LFe+gVqq78yw2FDb7UB/jFS CzKrK+0gSs9KqonB6km76TRny8/EHzD1vzlS3l5ekyrsFQjO4dLAIRbrhv0Cvtc9hltJ 0rgg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WECXL6irF5p5GgnYsM/QPZyf3DYQstZI8LKm+fK06U8=; b=EjO/w1zrpb83aId+M10JZFgac+BTFLY/KVhC4f2mtz5NygIcKTJvsEfT/WyQBk6aBM Kv0HFIYGw38Zvd2sDUwBXQDnpf48PeNYEwCajo1ssod8v+WWIm47G9/7MDQlgn3bvZmP sJ3sDma4OMk5c710Q+zgXWLcfQfpgKvp/7TKN1B/ZwDDX/lofUEq5N53JgSSe580nWAP eOd5l95hyDUbb1IoLtwfJlt9+pOmE1GxgoMTcxlhRAbmvgF0tmWaH7VWafXDGfwvDtxX 3Fr0THX5Hv6R69Lx85IYm2N3A5QB0zSGEGMjm41eVHdxT7wuhjqjuD1NBlAeo2Gi2FPc gF/A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530qtzB/ihFfWsGyvKLo/odnMPnaMbRLzp+eoiXr6MOGW8mzWTtH iiY8p+4ZcNzpGHrfzFL4DnQSPDvmdIr5Xw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzMWjC0b4J3xT5g5vhWUyEnTsEYG8z7orHdW4WYd3aynA6nBsshtQTGhTGXOq9hBi/cAm6zlQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3587:: with SMTP id mm7mr9870072pjb.21.1615578927622; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([151.210.131.28]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m7sm2896424pjc.54.2021.03.12.11.55.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:55:26 -0800 (PST) To: Chris Morrow , Badma Butaev Cc: Juhamatti Kuusisaari , "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" , Pierre Francois , hackathon@ietf.org References: <6C32DBAB-D3B2-48A8-9949-580EA0E2A3ED@juniperlab.ru> From: Brian E Carpenter Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 08:55:21 +1300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 19:55:31 -0000 In fairness, Chris, the unsubscribe link in the headers is significantly = hard to find since typical user agents will not normally display it. For = example, on Thunderbird you need to select View/Headers/All and scroll do= wn about three pages. On the gmail webmail interface you have to find the= "Show Original" option and scroll through the whole SMTP header junk. However, the convention of sending an Unsubscribe message to -r= equest@ should be known to everybody. Regards Brian On 13-Mar-21 08:29, Chris Morrow wrote: > People need to learn how mailing lists work, please read the headers > and click the included link to unsubscribe. >=20 > On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 6:16 PM Badma Butaev wrot= e: >> >> Hello! >> >> Please remove me from the mailing list. >> >>> 12 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=82=D0=B0 2021 =D0=B3., =D0=B2 00:22, Charles= Eckel (eckelcu) =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF= =D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB(=D0=B0): >>> >>> =EF=BB=BFPierre, >>> >>> Thanks, and yes, ultimately it is up to the project champions and the= rest of the team to determine how they want to work and what tools they = want to use. A goal of the hackathon is to provide an environment and too= ls that can be helpful. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Charles >>> >>> =EF=BB=BFOn 3/11/21, 12:52 PM, "Pierre Francois" wrote: >>> >>> Charles, >>> >>> these are great initiatives, but shouldn't we simply rely on the c= hampions to provide the env for interop testing? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Pierre. >>> >>> ----- Mail original ----- >>>> De: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" = >>>> =C3=80: "Juhamatti Kuusisaari" , hackathon@ietf.= org >>>> Envoy=C3=A9: Jeudi 11 Mars 2021 21:47:50 >>>> Objet: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network >>> >>>> Hi Juhamatti, >>>> >>>> Shared compute resources were made available at some previous in per= son >>>> hackathons, but that practice stoped due to low utilization. >>>> For recent online only hackathons, we have provided remote networkin= g options, >>>> as described here, >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eckel-shmoo-ietf-hackath= on-03#section-6.8 >>>> >>>> We ran into some complications that resulted in these services not b= eing >>>> available for IETF 110, but we intend to offer something comparable = for future >>>> hackathons. If so, would this work for the interop testing you have = in mind? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Charles >>>> >>>> On 3/11/21, 8:06 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Juhamatti Kuusisaari" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Just wondering how people have been doing interop testing in remot= e >>>> hackathons so far, what would be the best practices? For my use ca= se >>>> the simplest thing would be to have a common server where a KVM im= age >>>> would be instantiated and other KVM instances or even host process= es >>>> could connect to it over kernel switch. 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[24.91.177.160]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f8sm4480106qth.6.2021.03.12.12.04.49 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Mar 2021 12:04:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Lemon Message-Id: <31546C18-2B25-4265-BB1F-355399B676BC@fugue.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BCA53B42-C68B-45E8-BEE2-1446D233ADCE" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.2\)) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:04:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: Cc: Chris Morrow , Badma Butaev , Juhamatti Kuusisaari , "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" , Pierre Francois , hackathon@ietf.org To: Brian E Carpenter References: <6C32DBAB-D3B2-48A8-9949-580EA0E2A3ED@juniperlab.ru> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:04:59 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_BCA53B42-C68B-45E8-BEE2-1446D233ADCE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Mar 12, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Brian E Carpenter = wrote: > In fairness, Chris, the unsubscribe link in the headers is = significantly hard to find since typical user agents will not normally = display it. For example, on Thunderbird you need to select = View/Headers/All and scroll down about three pages. On the gmail webmail = interface you have to find the "Show Original" option and scroll through = the whole SMTP header junk. Depends on the MUA. If you are running MacOS, it looks like this: It=E2=80=99s weird that GMail doesn=E2=80=99t do better. They definitely = know how to read the header, because they do it for spam. Somebody ought = to add this to Thunderbird. It=E2=80=99s sad how many mail UAs are stuck = in the 20th century (not to say that Apple Mail is a paragon in every = way, but it does get this right). >=20 > However, the convention of sending an Unsubscribe message to = -request@ should be known to everybody. >=20 > Regards > Brian >=20 > On 13-Mar-21 08:29, Chris Morrow wrote: >> People need to learn how mailing lists work, please read the headers >> and click the included link to unsubscribe. >>=20 >> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 6:16 PM Badma Butaev = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hello! >>>=20 >>> Please remove me from the mailing list. >>>=20 >>>> 12 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=82=D0=B0 2021 =D0=B3., =D0=B2 00:22, = Charles Eckel (eckelcu) = =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB(=D0=B0): >>>>=20 >>>> =EF=BB=BFPierre, >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, and yes, ultimately it is up to the project champions and = the rest of the team to determine how they want to work and what tools = they want to use. A goal of the hackathon is to provide an environment = and tools that can be helpful. >>>>=20 >>>> Cheers, >>>> Charles >>>>=20 >>>> =EF=BB=BFOn 3/11/21, 12:52 PM, "Pierre Francois" = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Charles, >>>>=20 >>>> these are great initiatives, but shouldn't we simply rely on the = champions to provide the env for interop testing? >>>>=20 >>>> Cheers, >>>>=20 >>>> Pierre. >>>>=20 >>>> ----- Mail original ----- >>>>> De: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" = >>>>> =C3=80: "Juhamatti Kuusisaari" , = hackathon@ietf.org >>>>> Envoy=C3=A9: Jeudi 11 Mars 2021 21:47:50 >>>>> Objet: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network >>>>=20 >>>>> Hi Juhamatti, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Shared compute resources were made available at some previous in = person >>>>> hackathons, but that practice stoped due to low utilization. >>>>> For recent online only hackathons, we have provided remote = networking options, >>>>> as described here, >>>>> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eckel-shmoo-ietf-hackathon-03#= section-6.8 >>>>>=20 >>>>> We ran into some complications that resulted in these services not = being >>>>> available for IETF 110, but we intend to offer something = comparable for future >>>>> hackathons. If so, would this work for the interop testing you = have in mind? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Charles >>>>>=20 >>>>> On 3/11/21, 8:06 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Juhamatti Kuusisaari" >>>>> = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hello, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Just wondering how people have been doing interop testing in = remote >>>>> hackathons so far, what would be the best practices? For my use = case >>>>> the simplest thing would be to have a common server where a KVM = image >>>>> would be instantiated and other KVM instances or even host = processes >>>>> could connect to it over kernel switch. Anything like this = available? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> -- >>>>> Juhamatti >>>>>=20 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> hackathon mailing list >>>>> hackathon@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >>>>>=20 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> hackathon mailing list >>>>> hackathon@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> hackathon mailing list >>>> hackathon@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> hackathon mailing list >>> hackathon@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> hackathon mailing list >> hackathon@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon --Apple-Mail=_BCA53B42-C68B-45E8-BEE2-1446D233ADCE Content-Type: multipart/related; type="text/html"; boundary="Apple-Mail=_ECB2BE9D-D969-4814-B481-5EE84C9C7401" --Apple-Mail=_ECB2BE9D-D969-4814-B481-5EE84C9C7401 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 On = Mar 12, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
In fairness, = Chris, the unsubscribe link in the headers is significantly hard to find = since typical user agents will not normally display it. For example, on = Thunderbird you need to select View/Headers/All and scroll down about = three pages. On the gmail webmail interface you have to find the "Show = Original" option and scroll through the whole SMTP header junk.

Depends on = the MUA. If you are running MacOS, it looks like this:


It=E2=80=99s weird that GMail doesn=E2=80=99t do = better. They definitely know how to read the header, because they do it = for spam. Somebody ought to add this to Thunderbird. It=E2=80=99s sad = how many mail UAs are stuck in the 20th century (not to say that Apple = Mail is a paragon in every way, but it does get this = right).


However, the convention of = sending an Unsubscribe message to = <listname>-request@<domain> should be known to everybody.

Regards
  Brian

On 13-Mar-21 08:29, Chris Morrow wrote:
People need to learn how = mailing lists work, please read the headers
and click the = included link to unsubscribe.

On Thu, Mar = 11, 2021 at 6:16 PM Badma Butaev <badma@juniperlab.ru>= wrote:

Hello!

Please remove me from the = mailing list.

12 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=82=D0=B0 2021 =D0=B3., =D0=B2 00:22, = Charles Eckel (eckelcu) <eckelcu=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> = =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB(=D0=B0):

=EF=BB=BFPierre,

Thanks, and = yes, ultimately it is up to the project champions and the rest of the = team to determine how they want to work and what tools they want to use. = A goal of the hackathon is to provide an environment and tools that can = be helpful.

Cheers,
Charles

=EF=BB=BFOn 3/11/21, 12:52 PM, "Pierre = Francois" <pierre.francois@insa-lyon.fr> wrote:

  Charles,

=   these are great initiatives, but shouldn't we simply rely on = the champions to provide the env for interop testing?

  Cheers,

=   Pierre.

  ----- Mail = original -----
De: = "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
=C3=80= : "Juhamatti Kuusisaari" <juhamatk@gmail.com>, hackathon@ietf.org
Envoy=C3=A9: Jeudi 11 Mars 2021 21:47:50
Objet: = Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network

Hi Juhamatti,

Shared compute = resources were made available at some previous in person
hackathons, but that practice stoped due to low = utilization.
For recent online only hackathons, we have = provided remote networking options,
as described here,
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eckel-shmoo-ietf-ha= ckathon-03#section-6.8

We ran into some = complications that resulted in these services not being
available for IETF 110, but we intend to offer something = comparable for future
hackathons. If so, would this work = for the interop testing you have in mind?

Cheers,
Charles

On = 3/11/21, 8:06 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Juhamatti Kuusisaari"
<hackathon-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of = juhamatk@gmail.com> wrote:

=  Hello,

 Just wondering how = people have been doing interop testing in remote
=  hackathons so far, what would be the best practices? For my use = case
 the simplest thing would be to have a common = server where a KVM image
 would be instantiated and = other KVM instances or even host processes
 could = connect to it over kernel switch. Anything like this available?

 Thanks,
 --
  Juhamatti

=  _______________________________________________
=  hackathon mailing list
 hackathon@ietf.org
 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon

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quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 20:24:18 -0000 On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 2:55 PM Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > In fairness, Chris, the unsubscribe link in the headers is significantly = hard to find since typical user agents will not normally display it. For ex= ample, on Thunderbird you need to select View/Headers/All and scroll down a= bout three pages. On the gmail webmail interface you have to find the "Show= Original" option and scroll through the whole SMTP header junk. > > However, the convention of sending an Unsubscribe message to -r= equest@ should be known to everybody. > Sure, it's the year 2021 ... people should know how mailing lists work by n= ow. > Regards > Brian > > On 13-Mar-21 08:29, Chris Morrow wrote: > > People need to learn how mailing lists work, please read the headers > > and click the included link to unsubscribe. > > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 6:16 PM Badma Butaev wrot= e: > >> > >> Hello! > >> > >> Please remove me from the mailing list. > >> > >>> 12 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80=D1=82=D0=B0 2021 =D0=B3., =D0=B2 00:22, Charles= Eckel (eckelcu) =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF= =D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB(=D0=B0): > >>> > >>> =EF=BB=BFPierre, > >>> > >>> Thanks, and yes, ultimately it is up to the project champions and the= rest of the team to determine how they want to work and what tools they wa= nt to use. A goal of the hackathon is to provide an environment and tools t= hat can be helpful. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Charles > >>> > >>> =EF=BB=BFOn 3/11/21, 12:52 PM, "Pierre Francois" wrote: > >>> > >>> Charles, > >>> > >>> these are great initiatives, but shouldn't we simply rely on the c= hampions to provide the env for interop testing? > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Pierre. > >>> > >>> ----- Mail original ----- > >>>> De: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" > >>>> =C3=80: "Juhamatti Kuusisaari" , hackathon@ietf.= org > >>>> Envoy=C3=A9: Jeudi 11 Mars 2021 21:47:50 > >>>> Objet: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network > >>> > >>>> Hi Juhamatti, > >>>> > >>>> Shared compute resources were made available at some previous in per= son > >>>> hackathons, but that practice stoped due to low utilization. > >>>> For recent online only hackathons, we have provided remote networkin= g options, > >>>> as described here, > >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eckel-shmoo-ietf-hackath= on-03#section-6.8 > >>>> > >>>> We ran into some complications that resulted in these services not b= eing > >>>> available for IETF 110, but we intend to offer something comparable = for future > >>>> hackathons. If so, would this work for the interop testing you have = in mind? > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Charles > >>>> > >>>> On 3/11/21, 8:06 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Juhamatti Kuusisaari" > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> Just wondering how people have been doing interop testing in remot= e > >>>> hackathons so far, what would be the best practices? For my use ca= se > >>>> the simplest thing would be to have a common server where a KVM im= age > >>>> would be instantiated and other KVM instances or even host process= es > >>>> could connect to it over kernel switch. Anything like this availab= le? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> -- > >>>> Juhamatti > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> hackathon mailing list > >>>> hackathon@ietf.org > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> hackathon mailing list > >>>> hackathon@ietf.org > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> hackathon mailing list > >>> hackathon@ietf.org > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> hackathon mailing list > >> hackathon@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > > > > _______________________________________________ > > hackathon mailing list > > hackathon@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > > > From nobody Fri Mar 12 15:12:35 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545CA3A1906; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:12:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o-8Y9loSOzvB; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:8006::18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 518F33A1905; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.rg.net) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lKqx8-0001bp-1J; Fri, 12 Mar 2021 23:12:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:12:17 -0800 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Brian E Carpenter Cc: Chris Morrow , Badma Butaev , Juhamatti Kuusisaari , "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" , Pierre Francois , hackathon@ietf.org In-Reply-To: References: <6C32DBAB-D3B2-48A8-9949-580EA0E2A3ED@juniperlab.ru> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/26.3 Mule/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." 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Thanks, Martin From nobody Wed Mar 17 04:03:29 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261663A1280 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 04:03:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=consulintel.es Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ILSTuj-RZRFt for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 04:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.consulintel.es (mail.consulintel.es [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:495::5]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4613A127E for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 04:03:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=consulintel.es; s=MDaemon; t=1615979002; x=1616583802; i=jordi.palet@consulintel.es; q=dns/txt; h=User-Agent:Date: Subject:From:To:Message-ID:Thread-Topic:References:In-Reply-To: Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding; bh=O4UZ+457 9arZMsAZTQp17A8CozvKkKW+5xA4nCnDTxk=; b=ZL9YsY4+OaXPETIGVkDV3Yan efuDquTj0pYAvFU4KqC2MKkG0oSXnGdB47GUmlKC9nGEi7CmeorI92/XT6qPlt3H mg8oOBd1KVTtDw5Q4bOE/sRlYjDNGwLzxVYCssL0NuTRHJO/kDdGkD0MbZhwMcZF 1IaDvoVHRqz39CKWitI= X-MDAV-Result: clean X-MDAV-Processed: mail.consulintel.es, Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:03:22 +0100 X-Spam-Processed: mail.consulintel.es, Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:03:22 +0100 Received: from [10.10.10.145] by mail.consulintel.es (MDaemon PRO v16.5.2) with ESMTPA id md50000550550.msg for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:03:22 +0100 X-MDRemoteIP: 2001:470:1f09:495:b533:68cc:b5d3:6f63 X-MDHelo: [10.10.10.145] X-MDArrival-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:03:22 +0100 X-Authenticated-Sender: jordi.palet@consulintel.es X-Return-Path: prvs=17103a9492=jordi.palet@consulintel.es X-Envelope-From: jordi.palet@consulintel.es X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: hackathon@ietf.org User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/16.47.21031401 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:03:22 +0100 From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ To: Message-ID: <127FE96C-519C-466D-927F-36F89EB7EDC6@consulintel.es> Thread-Topic: [hackathon] I would like to unsubscribe References: <481B6D34-4C4C-43BD-9C18-2DDC5C7BE16D@isc.org> <11fe36a6-56d6-0ef7-3755-621d8266c5bf@xworks.sk> In-Reply-To: <11fe36a6-56d6-0ef7-3755-621d8266c5bf@xworks.sk> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hackathon] I would like to unsubscribe X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 11:03:28 -0000 In all the lists, you must read the footer: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon You will find there how to unsubscribe. Also, you may find this in the headers: List-Unsubscribe: , I don't really understand how is possible that this question comes back aga= in and again among "engineers"! =20 Regards, Jordi @jordipalet =20 =20 =EF=BB=BFEl 17/3/21 11:54, "hackathon en nombre de Martin Pilka" escribi=C3=B3: On 17. 3. 2021 11:47, Mark Andrews wrote: > Send email tohackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of unsubscrib= e from the > subscribed address and then respond to the confirmation request. I have a same issue - several years ago I subscribed to Hackathon maili= ng=20 list and I don't know which email address is subscribed, email says onl= y=20 "CC: hackathon@ietf.org". How can one unsubscribe in such a case? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:08:30 -0000 Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is being f= orwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the email header f= rom the list, you will find what email is in the list, or you can just use = the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of subscribers. =20 =20 =EF=BB=BFEl 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver (Fed)" = escribi=C3=B3: Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I received= an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not to have worked = wither, I still get the messages.=20 I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program. Oliver ----------------------------------------------- Oliver Borchert, Computer Scientist National Institute of Standards and Technology (Office) +1.301.975.4856 (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117 =EF=BB=BFOn 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrews" wrote: Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of unsubscr= ibe from the subscribed address and then respond to the confirmation request. > On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Hailey wrote: >=20 > Please remove me from your mailing list. 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From nobody Wed Mar 17 07:18:19 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939CD3A0D4A for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 07:18:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KXXyPEl-8-2Y for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 07:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implementers.org (implementers.org [92.243.22.217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5D6F3A0DAE for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 07:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2601:648:8400:8e7d:d250:99ff:fedf:93cd] (unknown [IPv6:2601:648:8400:8e7d:d250:99ff:fedf:93cd]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (Client CN "Marc Petit-Huguenin", Issuer "implementers.org" (verified OK)) by implementers.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFD7EAE21E; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:18:07 +0100 (CET) To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ , "hackathon@ietf.org" References: <481B6D34-4C4C-43BD-9C18-2DDC5C7BE16D@isc.org> <8D8AFF26-1418-4A6F-B902-9CD06C55C581@consulintel.es> From: Marc Petit-Huguenin Message-ID: <52ce6697-553a-54f8-1e09-8e9ace592836@petit-huguenin.org> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 07:18:06 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8D8AFF26-1418-4A6F-B902-9CD06C55C581@consulintel.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hackathon] I would like to unsubscribe X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:18:19 -0000 In any case, it baffles me that people are thinking that sending an "unsubscribe" email to everyone in a mailing-list will somehow help them resolve their problem. One click on the bottom of each email they no longer want to receive brings a web page that contains the email alias of the owners of this list. How people cannot see that as a better target to their complaints than annoying *everyone*? On 3/17/21 7:08 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is being forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the email header from the list, you will find what email is in the list, or you can just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of subscribers. > > > > El 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver (Fed)" escribió: > > Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I received an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not to have worked wither, I still get the messages. > > I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program. > > Oliver > > ----------------------------------------------- > Oliver Borchert, Computer Scientist > National Institute of Standards and Technology > (Office) +1.301.975.4856 > (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117 > > > On 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrews" wrote: > > Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of unsubscribe from the > subscribed address and then respond to the confirmation request. > > > On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Hailey wrote: > > > > Please remove me from your mailing list. Please and thank you, wish you well! > > _______________________________________________ > > hackathon mailing list > > hackathon@ietf.org > > https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=04%7C01%7Coliver.borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=J0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D&reserved=0 > > -- > Mark Andrews, ISC > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org > > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=04%7C01%7Coliver.borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=J0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > > > > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.theipv6company.com > The IPv6 Company > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:24:47 -0000 --0000000000007ac6a105bdbc3e60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know why people are so worked up by this whole thing, just filling out emails with unnecessary arguments about subscription... Just block the mails from your end other than making us talk about subscription instead of what actually happened during the hackathon On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 5:18 PM Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: > In any case, it baffles me that people are thinking that sending an > "unsubscribe" email to everyone in a mailing-list will somehow help them > resolve their problem. > > One click on the bottom of each email they no longer want to receive > brings a web page that contains the email alias of the owners of this > list. How people cannot see that as a better target to their complaints > than annoying *everyone*? > > On 3/17/21 7:08 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > > Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is > being forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the email > header from the list, you will find what email is in the list, or you can > just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of subscribers. > > > > > > > > =EF=BB=BFEl 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver (Fe= d)" < > hackathon-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de oliver.borchert=3D > 40nist.gov@dmarc.ietf.org> escribi=C3=B3: > > > > Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I > received an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not to ha= ve > worked wither, I still get the messages. > > > > I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program. > > > > Oliver > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > > Oliver Borchert, Computer Scientist > > National Institute of Standards and Technology > > (Office) +1.301.975.4856 > > (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117 > > > > > > =EF=BB=BFOn 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrews= " < > hackathon-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of marka@isc.org> wrote: > > > > Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of > unsubscribe from the > > subscribed address and then respond to the confirmation reques= t. > > > > > On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Hailey > wrote: > > > > > > Please remove me from your mailing list. Please and thank > you, wish you well! > > > _______________________________________________ > > > hackathon mailing list > > > hackathon@ietf.org > > > > https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.i= etf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=3D04%7C01%7Coliver.borche= rt%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e0546= 55c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wL= jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=3DJ0= gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D&reserved=3D0 > > > > -- > > Mark Andrews, ISC > > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia > > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > hackathon mailing list > > hackathon@ietf.org > > > https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.i= etf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=3D04%7C01%7Coliver.borche= rt%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e0546= 55c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wL= jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=3DJ0= gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D&reserved=3D0 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > hackathon mailing list > > hackathon@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > > > > > > > > ********************************************** > > IPv4 is over > > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > > http://www.theipv6company.com > > The IPv6 Company > > > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or > confidential. 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I don't know why people are so worked up by this whol= e thing, just filling out emails with unnecessary arguments about subscript= ion... Just block the mails from your end other than making us talk about s= ubscription instead of what actually happened during the hackathon
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 5:18 PM = Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@pet= it-huguenin.org> wrote:
In a= ny case, it baffles me that people are thinking that sending an "unsub= scribe" email to everyone in a mailing-list will somehow help them res= olve their problem.

One click on the bottom of each email they no longer want to receive brings= a web page that contains the email alias of the owners of this list.=C2=A0= How people cannot see that as a better target to their complaints than ann= oying *everyone*?

On 3/17/21 7:08 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is be= ing forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the email hea= der from the list, you will find what email is in the list, or you can just= use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of subscribers. >=C2=A0 =C2=A0
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0
>
> =EF=BB=BFEl 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliv= er (Fed)" <hackathon-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de oliv= er.borchert=3D40nist.gov@dmarc.ietf.org> escribi=C3=B3:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not = work. Then I received an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seeme= d not to have worked wither, I still get the messages.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I believe there must be something wrong with the m= ailer program.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Oliver
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ----------------------------------------------- >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Oliver Borchert, Computer Scientist
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 National Institute of Standards and Technology
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Office) +1.301.975.4856
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =EF=BB=BFOn 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on b= ehalf of Mark Andrews" <hackathon-bounces@ietf.org on b= ehalf of marka@isc.org> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Send email to hackathon-requ= est@ietf.org with a subject of unsubscribe from the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 subscribed address and then respond = to the confirmation request.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Haile= y <merpitsmebug@gmail.com> wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Please remove me from your mail= ing list. Please and thank you, wish you well!
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > _______________________________= ________________
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > hackathon mailing list
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > hackathon@ietf.org
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/= ?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&amp;= data=3D04%7C01%7Coliver.borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e9324= 0c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnkno= wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVC= I6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=3DJ0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OE= BY%3D&amp;reserved=3D0
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mark Andrews, ISC
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 21= 17, Australia
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ____________________________________= ___________
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 hackathon mailing list
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 hackathon@ietf.org
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= =3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&amp;data= =3D04%7C01%7Coliver.borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%= 7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7= CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn= 0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=3DJ0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3= D&amp;reserved=3D0
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______________________________________________ >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 hackathon mailing list
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 hackathon@ietf.org
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.ietf.= org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon
>
>
>
> **********************************************
> IPv4 is over
> Are you ready for the new Internet ?
> http://www.theipv6company.com
> The IPv6 Company
>
> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged o= r confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of = the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclos= ure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even= if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be= considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aw= are that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of th= is information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly pr= ohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the o= riginal sender to inform about this communication and delete it.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> hackathon mailing list
> hackathon@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo= /hackathon
>


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08:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 12HFoCev007463; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:50:12 +0100 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AFA2206088; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:50:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from muguet2-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet2-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.13]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D71205FF9; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:50:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.14.11.24] ([10.14.11.24]) by muguet2-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 12HFoBh5019736; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:50:11 +0100 To: Marc Petit-Huguenin , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ , "hackathon@ietf.org" References: <481B6D34-4C4C-43BD-9C18-2DDC5C7BE16D@isc.org> <8D8AFF26-1418-4A6F-B902-9CD06C55C581@consulintel.es> <52ce6697-553a-54f8-1e09-8e9ace592836@petit-huguenin.org> From: Alexandre PETRESCU Organization: CEA Message-ID: <0de4318b-9efe-8e1d-cbba-bca968920add@cea.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:50:09 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <52ce6697-553a-54f8-1e09-8e9ace592836@petit-huguenin.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms090705040709010001000105" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hackathon] I would like to unsubscribe X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:50:19 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090705040709010001000105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 17/03/2021 =C3=A0 15:18, Marc Petit-Huguenin a =C3=A9crit : > In any case, it baffles me that people are thinking that sending an=20 > "unsubscribe" email to everyone in a mailing-list will somehow help > them resolve their problem. >=20 > One click on the bottom of each email they no longer want to receive > brings a web page that contains the email alias of the owners of > this list. How people cannot see that as a better target to their > complaints than annoying *everyone*? Maybe one needs a button titled "Unsubscribe" in the MUA (Mail User Agent) and not in the message, because current security advisory often tells to not click on this or that button in the email. In Thunderbird MUA I already have buttons called "Reply to list", "Reply to all", "Reply". Alex >=20 > On 3/17/21 7:08 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >> Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is >> being forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to >> the email header from the list, you will find what email is in the >> list, or you can just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the >> list of subscribers. >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BFEl 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver (F= ed)" >> > oliver.borchert=3D40nist.gov@dmarc.ietf.org> escribi=C3=B3: >>=20 >> Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I=20 >> received an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not >> to have worked wither, I still get the messages. >>=20 >> I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program. >>=20 >> Oliver >>=20 >> ----------------------------------------------- Oliver Borchert, >> Computer Scientist National Institute of Standards and Technology=20 >> (Office) +1.301.975.4856 (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117 >>=20 >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BFOn 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrews"=20 >> wrote: >>=20 >> Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of=20 >> unsubscribe from the subscribed address and then respond to the >> confirmation request. >>=20 >>> On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Hailey >> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Please remove me from your mailing list. Please and thank >> you, wish you well! >>> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing >>> list hackathon@ietf.org >>>=20 >> https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fww= w.ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=3D04%7C01%7Coliver.b= orchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a= 93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJW= IjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&= ;sdata=3DJ0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D&reserved=3D= 0 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, >> Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: >> marka@isc.org >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing >> list hackathon@ietf.org >>=20 >> https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fww= w.ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=3D04%7C01%7Coliver.b= orchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a= 93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJW= IjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&= ;sdata=3DJ0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D&reserved=3D= 0 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing >> list hackathon@ietf.org=20 >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you >> ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 >> Company >>=20 >> This electronic message contains information which may be >> privileged or confidential. 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12:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: esdaniel@esdaniel.com To: hackathon@ietf.org References: From: Ed Daniel Organization: esdaniel.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 19:16:56 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hackathon] Responses to various "unsubscribe" requests X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 19:17:03 -0000 Well said, thank you, Barry. On 17/03/2021 13:55, Barry Leiba wrote: > Folks, > A number of the responses to the recent batch of "unsubscribe" > requests have been abrupt and rude, implying that those who can't > unsubscribe themselves are perhaps stupid, and at best not "real > engineers". > > Please, there's no need for that. Choose either to respond helpfully > and politely, or not to respond at all. Remember that we're leading > by example here. Let's please make the example a positive one, > presenting ourselves as a welcoming community, not as one that's > intolerant of anyone who doesn't know how we operate. Keep in mind > that especially for the Hackathon (but for the IETF in general, as > well) we are encouraging students, those active in open source > communities, and others who may not be used to participating in these > sorts of activities through email lists, but are instead accustomed to > other tools that work in other ways. > > Thanks, > Barry > > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > From nobody Wed Mar 17 12:56:56 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED383A12BC for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:56:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lmdvn54NVT7m for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pf1-x430.google.com (mail-pf1-x430.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::430]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F03643A12BA for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf1-x430.google.com with SMTP id b184so1885102pfa.11 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:56:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=j4PX6eczjCdozct7nds7PTxXpwCxF6k1RHPR0h2dK6g=; b=E4CCZTyz7evT1s4p2+5TkSw4ickN7hvrtMtVg/7HZEaVfu6lUz1RHH7diUT+SJh6Cz 5VGCx6mK/blDzg4oPPS0ifB3uWuEyhyQ/2DyDZusGi6D5/9sbXVVvErQ5iEYKuRhnLP4 3vIRJ1DqrkN431MaWDQoF5Kp99eYhvCLY0/DF93Td5sHBybJ/NKiXr6jRMPfRecc3F6p lr+ANn1tqdqOjO+Ctk1yAmcPSGcgvtx8bBo5rD69xrnShV7YRWQwzAcmNSHclG+kP9A4 mHK+FlWPbq7oz28kh64ghtzIlacgIxJPLReQ6eFepP8iHTVi6GiHOzzUXNNO6ons/1If 1z0Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=j4PX6eczjCdozct7nds7PTxXpwCxF6k1RHPR0h2dK6g=; b=CmqU5C2wI0tB2cQEfkjCysRGrJpcebeGNTiV6TbKotuREWsGNOTJ+8k1ehTJlmbANW zzy7xN8vNOz5wRfXfx2OF8nW5/nlam0n0+zN2XGOjnm4EL6W2XIHspT+j5OwlylJjEFt fGKXRUR//orj8yTQr1HZtD1ULB2UbvCbrKv5QUzc7+bKhzojHoBZyoJOVF3hvkGBxXOV DOcn1L8Xz3wvbx2WMQrSAC1RD2L5e6jHbBJKUl3W2rwNr57OSlAgr1VO0ehtN/aWRgMB MPVjZKMrh4ZwBrUhXVAaxD5Lixe0jExnDFFe4S84wjFl46/JMvBumkY2xOVcN/eQXWAN GHZA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530LLmNg3RyX1ILhqHOt1BxaenFw0GDQd3S1yp74VA6nUMi187jI Kg7tOQJ6uKpn25KZpBY3NHtLY2ueFK2HGw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyplDII6UciKI1Pr2YgyQpKqVqfOYTLT71kMdQBR28PiUPubjizOyw+VGbDZOXyNgqRQ+TH9g== X-Received: by 2002:a62:7ac3:0:b029:1f1:5d13:5ec6 with SMTP id v186-20020a627ac30000b02901f15d135ec6mr664956pfc.14.1616011011028; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([151.210.131.14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w15sm13291302pfn.84.2021.03.17.12.56.48 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:56:50 -0700 (PDT) To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ , "hackathon@ietf.org" References: <481B6D34-4C4C-43BD-9C18-2DDC5C7BE16D@isc.org> <8D8AFF26-1418-4A6F-B902-9CD06C55C581@consulintel.es> From: Brian E Carpenter Message-ID: <8d2085a9-565b-5c12-75e9-205dc986498a@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:56:47 +1300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8D8AFF26-1418-4A6F-B902-9CD06C55C581@consulintel.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hackathon] I would like to unsubscribe X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 19:56:54 -0000 Jordi, > or you can just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of subsc= ribers. No, you can't do that unless you are in the list and know your password. = I just checked, and there are 7 people from nist.gov in the list, not inc= luding Oliver Borchert. Either he has now been removed, or (as you say) t= he messages are being forwarded by some third party. (Or, very unlikely, = he is one of the three "private" members.) Regards Brian On 18-Mar-21 03:08, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is bei= ng forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the email he= ader from the list, you will find what email is in the list, or you can j= ust use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of subscribers. > =20 > =20 >=20 > =EF=BB=BFEl 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver (Fe= d)" escribi=C3=B3: >=20 > Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I rece= ived an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not to have w= orked wither, I still get the messages.=20 >=20 > I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program. >=20 > Oliver >=20 > ----------------------------------------------- > Oliver Borchert, Computer Scientist > National Institute of Standards and Technology > (Office) +1.301.975.4856 > (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117 >=20 >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrews"= wrote: >=20 > Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of unsu= bscribe from the > subscribed address and then respond to the confirmation request= =2E >=20 > > On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Hailey wro= te: > >=20 > > Please remove me from your mailing list. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 20:33:28 -0000 H Brian, I often don't use any meaningful password for mail exploders, just random a= nd long sequences, because in the mailman you can request the password to b= e sent to your email. So, if I want to change my subscription features or unsubscribe, I just req= uest the password, and then I do it. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet =20 =20 =EF=BB=BFEl 17/3/21 20:57, "hackathon en nombre de Brian E Carpenter" escribi=C3= =B3: Jordi, > or you can just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of sub= scribers. No, you can't do that unless you are in the list and know your password= . I just checked, and there are 7 people from nist.gov in the list, not inc= luding Oliver Borchert. Either he has now been removed, or (as you say) the= messages are being forwarded by some third party. (Or, very unlikely, he i= s one of the three "private" members.) Regards Brian On 18-Mar-21 03:08, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is b= eing forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the email he= ader from the list, you will find what email is in the list, or you can jus= t use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of subscribers. > =20 > =20 >=20 > =EF=BB=BFEl 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver (= Fed)" escribi=C3=B3: >=20 > Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I re= ceived an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not to have w= orked wither, I still get the messages.=20 >=20 > I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program. >=20 > Oliver >=20 > ----------------------------------------------- > Oliver Borchert, Computer Scientist > National Institute of Standards and Technology > (Office) +1.301.975.4856 > (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117 >=20 >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrew= s" wrote: >=20 > Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of un= subscribe from the > subscribed address and then respond to the confirmation reque= st. >=20 > > On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Hailey w= rote: > >=20 > > Please remove me from your mailing list. Please and thank y= ou, wish you well! > > _______________________________________________ > > hackathon mailing list > > hackathon@ietf.org > > https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps= %3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=3D04%7C01%7= Coliver.borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8= fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d= 8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&= amp;sdata=3DJ0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D&reserved= =3D0 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Andrews, ISC > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org >=20 > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3= A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=3D04%7C01%7Co= liver.borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa= 4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e= yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&am= p;sdata=3DJ0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D&reserved=3D0 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >=20 >=20 >=20 > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.theipv6company.com > The IPv6 Company >=20 > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged = or confidential. 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I just checked, and there are 7 people from nist.gov in the list, not including Oliver Borchert. Either he has now been removed, or (as you say) the messages are being forwarded by some third party. (Or, very unlikely, he is one of the three "private" members.) > > Regards > Brian > > On 18-Mar-21 03:08, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > > Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is being forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the email header from the list, you will find what email is in the list, or you can just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of subscribers. > > > > > > > > El 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver (Fed)" escribió: > > > > Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I received an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not to have worked wither, I still get the messages. > > > > I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program. > > > > Oliver > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > > Oliver Borchert, Computer Scientist > > National Institute of Standards and Technology > > (Office) +1.301.975.4856 > > (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117 > > > > > > On 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrews" wrote: > > > > Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of unsubscribe from the > > subscribed address and then respond to the confirmation request. > > > > > On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Hailey wrote: > > > > > > Please remove me from your mailing list. 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On 3/17/21 4:33 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
H Brian,

I often don't use any meaningful password for mail exploders, just random and long sequences, because in the mailman you can request the password to be sent to your email.

So, if I want to change my subscription features or unsubscribe, I just request the password, and then I do it.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 17/3/21 20:57, "hackathon en nombre de Brian E Carpenter" <hackathon-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> escribió:

    Jordi,

    > or you can just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of subscribers.

    No, you can't do that unless you are in the list and know your password. I just checked, and there are 7 people from nist.gov in the list, not including Oliver Borchert. Either he has now been removed, or (as you say) the messages are being forwarded by some third party. (Or, very unlikely, he is one of the three "private" members.)

    Regards
       Brian

    On 18-Mar-21 03:08, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
    > Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is being forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the email header from the list, you will find what email is in the list, or you can just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of subscribers.
    >  
    >  
    > 
    > El 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver (Fed)" <hackathon-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de oliver.borchert=40nist.gov@dmarc.ietf.org> escribió:
    > 
    >     Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I received an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not to have worked wither, I still get the messages. 
    > 
    >     I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program.
    > 
    >     Oliver
    > 
    >     -----------------------------------------------
    >     Oliver Borchert, Computer Scientist
    >     National Institute of Standards and Technology
    >     (Office) +1.301.975.4856
    >     (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117
    > 
    > 
    >     On 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrews" <hackathon-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of marka@isc.org> wrote:
    > 
    >         Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of unsubscribe from the
    >         subscribed address and then respond to the confirmation request.
    > 
    >         > On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Hailey <merpitsmebug@gmail.com> wrote:
    >         > 
    >         > Please remove me from your mailing list. Please and thank you, wish you well!
    >         > _______________________________________________
    >         > hackathon mailing list
    >         > hackathon@ietf.org
    >         > https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&amp;data=04%7C01%7Coliver.borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=J0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > 
    >         -- 
    >         Mark Andrews, ISC
    >         1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
    >         PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742              INTERNET: marka@isc.org
    > 
    >         _______________________________________________
    >         hackathon mailing list
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On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:55 PM Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wro= te:
Folks,
A number of the responses to the recent batch of "unsubscribe" requests have been abrupt and rude, implying that those who can't
unsubscribe themselves are perhaps stupid, and at best not "real
engineers".

Please, there's no need for that.=C2=A0 Choose either to respond helpfu= lly
and politely, or not to respond at all.=C2=A0 Remember that we're leadi= ng
by example here.=C2=A0 Let's please make the example a positive one, presenting ourselves as a welcoming community, not as one that's
intolerant of anyone who doesn't know how we operate.=C2=A0 Keep in min= d
that especially for the Hackathon (but for the IETF in general, as
well) we are encouraging students, those active in open source
communities, and others who may not be used to participating in these
sorts of activities through email lists, but are instead accustomed to
other tools that work in other ways.

Thanks,
Barry

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--000000000000284aa305bdc32417-- From tom@augustcellars.com Wed Mar 17 15:24:54 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6E53A168E for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:24:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GB4XKaGnCYg0 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jax4mhob01.registeredsite.com (jax4mhob01.myregisteredsite.com [64.69.218.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C1253A168C for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.77.95]) by jax4mhob01.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 12HMOnWT006015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 18:24:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 16315 invoked by uid 0); 17 Mar 2021 22:24:49 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 50.45.136.84 X-Authenticated-UID: tom@augustcellars.com Received: from unknown (HELO Micah) (tom@augustcellars.com@50.45.136.84) by 0 with ESMTPA; 17 Mar 2021 22:24:48 -0000 From: Sender: To: "'Alexandre PETRESCU'" , References: <481B6D34-4C4C-43BD-9C18-2DDC5C7BE16D@isc.org> <8D8AFF26-1418-4A6F-B902-9CD06C55C581@consulintel.es> <52ce6697-553a-54f8-1e09-8e9ace592836@petit-huguenin.org> <0de4318b-9efe-8e1d-cbba-bca968920add@cea.fr> In-Reply-To: <0de4318b-9efe-8e1d-cbba-bca968920add@cea.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:24:47 -0700 Message-ID: <010601d71b7c$57730790$065916b0$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQFaHM8fCJFk4XnjJ1e6JOSnoctPggLEG5ztAe4NuQYCAoElYgH4guSsAcdd9KerLxmPcA== Content-Language: en-us Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hackathon] I would like to unsubscribe X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 23:01:52 -0000 Alex, Perhaps you could be a little kinder. My brother was in the IETF. He = passed away last October. I am left to clean up his estate. I have no = idea of any of his user names or passwords. The system would like me to = enter those things in order to unsubscribe him. While I have routed all = emails to my desk. I am just trying to inform people that he is dead. = And that somebody who is in charge of the discussions might want to know = that and then edit the list. Tom Schaad August Cellars tom@augustcellars.com 503.554.6766 x102 desk 503.789.7404 cell -----Original Message----- From: hackathon On Behalf Of Alexandre = PETRESCU Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:50 AM To: Marc Petit-Huguenin ; JORDI PALET MARTINEZ = ; hackathon@ietf.org Subject: Re: [hackathon] I would like to unsubscribe Le 17/03/2021 =C3=A0 15:18, Marc Petit-Huguenin a =C3=A9crit : > In any case, it baffles me that people are thinking that sending an=20 > "unsubscribe" email to everyone in a mailing-list will somehow help=20 > them resolve their problem. >=20 > One click on the bottom of each email they no longer want to receive =20 > brings a web page that contains the email alias of the owners of this=20 > list. How people cannot see that as a better target to their=20 > complaints than annoying *everyone*? Maybe one needs a button titled "Unsubscribe" in the MUA (Mail User Agent) and not in the message, because current security advisory often = tells to not click on this or that button in the email. In Thunderbird MUA I already have buttons called "Reply to list", "Reply = to all", "Reply". Alex >=20 > On 3/17/21 7:08 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >> Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is =20 >> being forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the=20 >> email header from the list, you will find what email is in the list,=20 >> or you can just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of=20 >> subscribers. >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BFEl 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver = (Fed)" >> > oliver.borchert=3D40nist.gov@dmarc.ietf.org> escribi=C3=B3: >>=20 >> Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I=20 >> received an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not=20 >> to have worked wither, I still get the messages. >>=20 >> I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program. >>=20 >> Oliver >>=20 >> ----------------------------------------------- Oliver Borchert,=20 >> Computer Scientist National Institute of Standards and Technology >> (Office) +1.301.975.4856 (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117 >>=20 >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BFOn 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrews"=20 >> wrote: >>=20 >> Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of=20 >> unsubscribe from the subscribed address and then respond to the=20 >> confirmation request. >>=20 >>> On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Hailey >> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Please remove me from your mailing list. Please and thank >> you, wish you well! >>> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing=20 >>> list hackathon@ietf.org >>>=20 >> = https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww >> = .ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=3D04%7C01%7Coliver. >> borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa >> 4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ >> sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0% >> = 3D%7C3000&sdata=3DJ0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D& >> amp;reserved=3D0 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, >> Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: >> marka@isc.org >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing=20 >> list hackathon@ietf.org >>=20 >> = https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww >> = .ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=3D04%7C01%7Coliver. >> borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa >> 4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ >> sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0% >> = 3D%7C3000&sdata=3DJ0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D& >> amp;reserved=3D0 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing=20 >> list hackathon@ietf.org=20 >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you=20 >> ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6=20 >> Company >>=20 >> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged=20 >> or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive=20 >> use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty=20 >> authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents=20 >> of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is=20 >> strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you = >> are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, = >> distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if=20 >> partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be=20 >> considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original=20 >> sender to inform about this communication and delete it. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing=20 >> list hackathon@ietf.org=20 >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >>=20 >=20 >=20 From nobody Wed Mar 17 16:31:22 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035153A17E9 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:31:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kf-lYuukJ_8o for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD8093A17E8 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EA462543; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 19:31:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 9V+RoIQlZQot; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 19:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B9D8A624B7; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 19:31:04 -0400 (EDT) To: ietf@augustcellars.com, 'Alexandre PETRESCU' , hackathon@ietf.org References: <481B6D34-4C4C-43BD-9C18-2DDC5C7BE16D@isc.org> <8D8AFF26-1418-4A6F-B902-9CD06C55C581@consulintel.es> <52ce6697-553a-54f8-1e09-8e9ace592836@petit-huguenin.org> <0de4318b-9efe-8e1d-cbba-bca968920add@cea.fr> <010601d71b7c$57730790$065916b0$@augustcellars.com> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <2057ab60-5016-7c22-28ef-7ea93c384010@labs.htt-consult.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 19:30:41 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <010601d71b7c$57730790$065916b0$@augustcellars.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hackathon] I would like to unsubscribe X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 23:31:21 -0000 Thank you Tom. As to your lost, as I told Jim at times, the Hebrew expression on hearing of the passing of someone: Blessed is the True Judge. Boruch Dayan Ha'Emes. For all here, I have a "Love Letter to my family" where I have attempted to record all information they should need on my passing from this world.  I know it is not 100% and I am always adding to it.  I have a whole section on emails. Worth doing.  I recall one incident in Dallas quite a number of years ago of a man having a heart attack and during the ambulance ride to the hospital, he spent the whole time rattling off login accounts and passwords to his wife...  Not good and quite a wake up to me on record keeping. On 3/17/21 6:24 PM, ietf@augustcellars.com wrote: > Alex, > > Perhaps you could be a little kinder. My brother was in the IETF. He passed away last October. I am left to clean up his estate. I have no idea of any of his user names or passwords. The system would like me to enter those things in order to unsubscribe him. While I have routed all emails to my desk. I am just trying to inform people that he is dead. And that somebody who is in charge of the discussions might want to know that and then edit the list. > > Tom Schaad > August Cellars > tom@augustcellars.com > 503.554.6766 x102 desk > 503.789.7404 cell > > -----Original Message----- > From: hackathon On Behalf Of Alexandre PETRESCU > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:50 AM > To: Marc Petit-Huguenin ; JORDI PALET MARTINEZ ; hackathon@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [hackathon] I would like to unsubscribe > > > Le 17/03/2021 à 15:18, Marc Petit-Huguenin a écrit : >> In any case, it baffles me that people are thinking that sending an >> "unsubscribe" email to everyone in a mailing-list will somehow help >> them resolve their problem. >> >> One click on the bottom of each email they no longer want to receive >> brings a web page that contains the email alias of the owners of this >> list. How people cannot see that as a better target to their >> complaints than annoying *everyone*? > Maybe one needs a button titled "Unsubscribe" in the MUA (Mail User > Agent) and not in the message, because current security advisory often tells to not click on this or that button in the email. > > In Thunderbird MUA I already have buttons called "Reply to list", "Reply to all", "Reply". > > Alex > >> On 3/17/21 7:08 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >>> Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is >>> being forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the >>> email header from the list, you will find what email is in the list, >>> or you can just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of >>> subscribers. >>> >>> El 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver (Fed)" >>> >> oliver.borchert=40nist.gov@dmarc.ietf.org> escribió: >>> >>> Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I >>> received an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not >>> to have worked wither, I still get the messages. >>> >>> I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program. >>> >>> Oliver >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------- Oliver Borchert, >>> Computer Scientist National Institute of Standards and Technology >>> (Office) +1.301.975.4856 (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117 >>> >>> >>> On 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrews" >>> wrote: >>> >>> Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of >>> unsubscribe from the subscribed address and then respond to the >>> confirmation request. >>> >>>> On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Hailey >>> wrote: >>>> Please remove me from your mailing list. Please and thank >>> you, wish you well! >>>> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing >>>> list hackathon@ietf.org >>>> >>> https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww >>> .ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=04%7C01%7Coliver. >>> borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa >>> 4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ >>> sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0% >>> 3D%7C3000&sdata=J0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D& >>> amp;reserved=0 >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, >>> Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: >>> marka@isc.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing >>> list hackathon@ietf.org >>> >>> https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww >>> .ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=04%7C01%7Coliver. >>> borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa >>> 4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ >>> sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0% >>> 3D%7C3000&sdata=J0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D& >>> amp;reserved=0 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing >>> list hackathon@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >>> >>> >>> >>> ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you >>> ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 >>> Company >>> >>> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged >>> or confidential. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 23:38:38 -0000 Email hackathon-owner@ietf.org with his name and the email addresses you = know about. For mailmain mailing lists there is a link to the administrator=E2=80=99s = email towards the bottom of the page. In this case see, 'hackathon list run by = hackathon-owner at ietf.org=E2=80=99 which has a email hyperlink covering 'hackathon-owner at ietf.org=E2=80=99= . The -owner@ convention is used by lots of mailing list = software. That may help you clean up others. Also =E2=80=9Cunsubscribe =E2=80= =9D as the subject to the -request@ email usually also works if you need to unsubscribe = an address you can=E2=80=99t send from. You still need to process the confirmation = email. Mark > On 18 Mar 2021, at 09:24, = wrote: >=20 > Alex, >=20 > Perhaps you could be a little kinder. My brother was in the IETF. He = passed away last October. I am left to clean up his estate. I have no = idea of any of his user names or passwords. The system would like me to = enter those things in order to unsubscribe him. While I have routed all = emails to my desk. I am just trying to inform people that he is dead. = And that somebody who is in charge of the discussions might want to know = that and then edit the list. >=20 > Tom Schaad > August Cellars > tom@augustcellars.com > 503.554.6766 x102 desk > 503.789.7404 cell >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: hackathon On Behalf Of Alexandre = PETRESCU > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:50 AM > To: Marc Petit-Huguenin ; JORDI PALET = MARTINEZ ; = hackathon@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [hackathon] I would like to unsubscribe >=20 >=20 > Le 17/03/2021 =C3=A0 15:18, Marc Petit-Huguenin a =C3=A9crit : >> In any case, it baffles me that people are thinking that sending an=20= >> "unsubscribe" email to everyone in a mailing-list will somehow help=20= >> them resolve their problem. >>=20 >> One click on the bottom of each email they no longer want to receive =20= >> brings a web page that contains the email alias of the owners of this=20= >> list. How people cannot see that as a better target to their=20 >> complaints than annoying *everyone*? >=20 > Maybe one needs a button titled "Unsubscribe" in the MUA (Mail User > Agent) and not in the message, because current security advisory often = tells to not click on this or that button in the email. >=20 > In Thunderbird MUA I already have buttons called "Reply to list", = "Reply to all", "Reply". >=20 > Alex >=20 >>=20 >> On 3/17/21 7:08 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >>> Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is =20= >>> being forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the=20= >>> email header from the list, you will find what email is in the list,=20= >>> or you can just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of=20 >>> subscribers. >>>=20 >>> =EF=BB=BFEl 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver = (Fed)" >>> >> oliver.borchert=3D40nist.gov@dmarc.ietf.org> escribi=C3=B3: >>>=20 >>> Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I=20 >>> received an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not=20= >>> to have worked wither, I still get the messages. >>>=20 >>> I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program. >>>=20 >>> Oliver >>>=20 >>> ----------------------------------------------- Oliver Borchert,=20 >>> Computer Scientist National Institute of Standards and Technology >>> (Office) +1.301.975.4856 (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> =EF=BB=BFOn 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrews"=20= >>> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of=20 >>> unsubscribe from the subscribed address and then respond to the=20 >>> confirmation request. >>>=20 >>>> On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Hailey >>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Please remove me from your mailing list. Please and thank >>> you, wish you well! >>>> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing=20= >>>> list hackathon@ietf.org >>>>=20 >>> = https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww >>> = .ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=3D04%7C01%7Coliver. >>> = borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa >>> = 4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ >>> = sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0% >>> = 3D%7C3000&sdata=3DJ0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D& >>> amp;reserved=3D0 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, >>> Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: >>> marka@isc.org >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing=20 >>> list hackathon@ietf.org >>>=20 >>> = https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww >>> = .ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=3D04%7C01%7Coliver. >>> = borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa >>> = 4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ >>> = sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0% >>> = 3D%7C3000&sdata=3DJ0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3D& >>> amp;reserved=3D0 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing=20 >>> list hackathon@ietf.org=20 >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you=20= >>> ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6=20= >>> Company >>>=20 >>> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged=20= >>> or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive=20= >>> use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty=20 >>> authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents=20= >>> of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is=20= >>> strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If = you=20 >>> are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, = copying,=20 >>> distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if=20 >>> partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be=20= >>> considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original=20 >>> sender to inform about this communication and delete it. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing=20 >>> list hackathon@ietf.org=20 >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon --=20 Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org From nobody Thu Mar 18 01:19:11 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hackathon@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EB53A246A for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 01:19:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.919 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.919 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M18R7xvalTjz for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 01:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxalide-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (oxalide-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.168.224.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D98713A2468 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 01:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 12I8IttF000624; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 09:18:55 +0100 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id CB59F2021FA; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 09:18:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.12]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FAD20325A; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 09:18:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.14.10.153] ([10.14.10.153]) by muguet1-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 12I8IsZJ010618; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 09:18:54 +0100 To: ietf@augustcellars.com, hackathon@ietf.org References: <481B6D34-4C4C-43BD-9C18-2DDC5C7BE16D@isc.org> <8D8AFF26-1418-4A6F-B902-9CD06C55C581@consulintel.es> <52ce6697-553a-54f8-1e09-8e9ace592836@petit-huguenin.org> <0de4318b-9efe-8e1d-cbba-bca968920add@cea.fr> <010601d71b7c$57730790$065916b0$@augustcellars.com> From: Alexandre PETRESCU Organization: CEA Message-ID: <9303bff9-d50a-fbba-01d7-41349813e331@cea.fr> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 09:18:54 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <010601d71b7c$57730790$065916b0$@augustcellars.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms050503030808020008020504" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hackathon] apologies X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:19:10 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050503030808020008020504 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------AB59BC81ED06C642F882CE37" Content-Language: fr This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AB59BC81ED06C642F882CE37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom, I want to apologize. I am sorry to hear the sad news.=C2=A0 Please accept sincere regrets from= my=20 side. These worldly chores will certainly be eased by the help of=20 administrators, as they wrote by email. Sorry, again, Yours, -- Alexandre Petrescu alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223 PS: if it is of any explanation I want to say that my email was not inten= ded to be ironic, even less to hurt. It was more like a feature suggestion to MUA developp= ers to help people to have an easier interactions with computers. Le 17/03/2021 =C3=A0 23:24, ietf@augustcellars.com a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > Alex, > > Perhaps you could be a little kinder. My brother was in the IETF. He = passed away last October. I am left to clean up his estate. I have no i= dea of any of his user names or passwords. The system would like me to e= nter those things in order to unsubscribe him. While I have routed all e= mails to my desk. I am just trying to inform people that he is dead. An= d that somebody who is in charge of the discussions might want to know th= at and then edit the list. > > Tom Schaad > August Cellars > tom@augustcellars.com > 503.554.6766 x102 desk > 503.789.7404 cell > > -----Original Message----- > From: hackathon On Behalf Of Alexandre PET= RESCU > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:50 AM > To: Marc Petit-Huguenin ; JORDI PALET MARTINEZ= ; hackathon@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [hackathon] I would like to unsubscribe > > > Le 17/03/2021 =C3=A0 15:18, Marc Petit-Huguenin a =C3=A9crit : >> In any case, it baffles me that people are thinking that sending an >> "unsubscribe" email to everyone in a mailing-list will somehow help >> them resolve their problem. >> >> One click on the bottom of each email they no longer want to receive >> brings a web page that contains the email alias of the owners of this >> list. How people cannot see that as a better target to their >> complaints than annoying *everyone*? > Maybe one needs a button titled "Unsubscribe" in the MUA (Mail User > Agent) and not in the message, because current security advisory often = tells to not click on this or that button in the email. > > In Thunderbird MUA I already have buttons called "Reply to list", "Repl= y to all", "Reply". > > Alex > >> On 3/17/21 7:08 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >>> Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is >>> being forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the >>> email header from the list, you will find what email is in the list, >>> or you can just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of >>> subscribers. >>> >>> =EF=BB=BFEl 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver (= Fed)" >>> >> oliver.borchert=3D40nist.gov@dmarc.ietf.org> escribi=C3=B3: >>> >>> Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I >>> received an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not >>> to have worked wither, I still get the messages. >>> >>> I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program. >>> >>> Oliver >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------- Oliver Borchert, >>> Computer Scientist National Institute of Standards and Technology >>> (Office) +1.301.975.4856 (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117 >>> >>> >>> =EF=BB=BFOn 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrews" >>> wrote: >>> >>> Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of >>> unsubscribe from the subscribed address and then respond to the >>> confirmation request. >>> >>>> On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Hailey >>> wrote: >>>> Please remove me from your mailing list. Please and thank >>> you, wish you well! >>>> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing >>>> list hackathon@ietf.org >>>> >>> https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fw= ww >>> .ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=3D04%7C01%7Colive= r. >>> borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa= >>> 4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ= >>> sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%= >>> 3D%7C3000&sdata=3DJ0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3= D& >>> amp;reserved=3D0 >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, >>> Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: >>> marka@isc.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing >>> list hackathon@ietf.org >>> >>> https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fw= ww >>> .ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhackathon&data=3D04%7C01%7Colive= r. >>> borchert%40nist.gov%7C0ddbb1d59fa148f3767d08d8e93240c6%7C2ab5d82fd8fa= >>> 4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C1%7C637515749368359935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ= >>> sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%= >>> 3D%7C3000&sdata=3DJ0gUeV6rBd02elUiXiKxI8qkw4Dbi28%2BgvnqnB3OEBY%3= D& >>> amp;reserved=3D0 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing >>> list hackathon@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >>> >>> >>> >>> ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you >>> ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 >>> Company >>> >>> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged >>> or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive >>> use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty >>> authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents >>> of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is >>> strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you= >>> are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying,= >>> distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if >>> partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be >>> considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original >>> sender to inform about this communication and delete it. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ hackathon mailing >>> list hackathon@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon >>> >> > --------------AB59BC81ED06C642F882CE37 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Tom,

I want to apologize. =

I am sorry to hear th= e sad news.=C2=A0 Please accept sincere regrets from my side.

These worldly chores will certainly be eased by the help of administrators, as they wrote by email.

Sorry, again,

Yours,<= br> 

--
Alexandre Petrescu
alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223

PS: if it is of any explanation I want to say that my email was not inten=
ded to be ironic,
even less to hurt.  It was more like a feature suggestion to MUA developp=
ers to help people=20
to have an easier interactions with computers.
Le 17/03/2021 =C3=A0 23:24, ietf@augustcellars.com a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Alex,

Perhaps you could be a little kinder.  My brother was in the IETF.  He pa=
ssed away last October.  I am left to clean up his estate.  I have no ide=
a of any of his user names or passwords.  The system would like me to ent=
er those things in order to unsubscribe him.  While I have routed all ema=
ils to my desk.  I am just trying to inform people that he is dead.  And =
that somebody who is in charge of the discussions might want to know that=
 and then edit the list.

Tom Schaad
August Cellars
tom@augustcellars.com
503.554.6766 x102 desk
503.789.7404 cell

-----Original Message-----
From: hackathon <hackathon-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of =
Alexandre PETRESCU
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:50 AM
To: Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org>; JORDI PALE=
T MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=3D40consulintel.es@dmarc=
=2Eietf.org>; hackathon@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [hackathon] I would like to unsubscribe


Le 17/03/2021 =C3=A0 15:18, Marc Petit-Huguenin a =C3=A9crit :

In any case, it baffles me=
 that people are thinking that sending an=20
"unsubscribe" email to everyone in a mailing-list will somehow help=20
them resolve their problem.

One click on the bottom of each email they no longer want to receive =20
brings a web page that contains the email alias of the owners of this=20
list.  How people cannot see that as a better target to their=20
complaints than annoying *everyone*?

Maybe one needs a button titled "Unsubscribe" in the MUA (Mail User
Agent) and not in the message, because current security advisory often te=
lls to not click on this or that button in the email.

In Thunderbird MUA I already have buttons called "Reply to list", "Reply =
to all", "Reply".

Alex


On 3/17/21 7:08 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:

Often this happens becau=
se you have an alias to the email, or it is =20
being forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the=20
email header from the list, you will find what email is in the list,=20
or you can just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of=20
subscribers.

=EF=BB=BFEl 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver (Fed)=
"
 <hackatho=
n-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de=20
oliver.borchert=3D40nist.gov@dmarc.ietf.org> escribi=C3=B3:

Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I=20
received an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not=20
to have worked wither, I still get the messages.

I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program.

Oliver

----------------------------------------------- Oliver Borchert,=20
Computer Scientist National Institute of Standards and Technology
(Office) +1.301.975.4856 (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117


=EF=BB=BFOn 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrews"=20
<hackathon-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of m=
arka@isc.org> wrote:

Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of=20
unsubscribe from the subscribed address and then respond to the=20
confirmation request.


On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:=
35, Hailey <merpitsmebug@gmail.com>

wrote:

Please remove me from your mailing list. Please and thank

you, wish you well!

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Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742              INTERNET:
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"unsubscribe" requests X-BeenThere: hackathon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion regarding past, present, and future IETF hackathons." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:27:19 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060309080900090709080109 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------6ECBE5DC21A1ED826F78BE6E" Content-Language: fr This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6ECBE5DC21A1ED826F78BE6E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree. -- Alexandre Petrescu alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223 Le 17/03/2021 =C3=A0 14:55, Barry Leiba a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > Folks, > A number of the responses to the recent batch of "unsubscribe" > requests have been abrupt and rude, implying that those who can't > unsubscribe themselves are perhaps stupid, and at best not "real > engineers". > > Please, there's no need for that. Choose either to respond helpfully > and politely, or not to respond at all. Remember that we're leading > by example here. Let's please make the example a positive one, > presenting ourselves as a welcoming community, not as one that's > intolerant of anyone who doesn't know how we operate. Keep in mind > that especially for the Hackathon (but for the IETF in general, as > well) we are encouraging students, those active in open source > communities, and others who may not be used to participating in these > sorts of activities through email lists, but are instead accustomed to > other tools that work in other ways. > > Thanks, > Barry > > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon --------------6ECBE5DC21A1ED826F78BE6E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I agree.

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Alexandre Petrescu
alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223
Le 17/03/2021 =C3=A0 14:55, Barry Leib= a a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Folks,
A number of the responses to the recent batch of "unsubscribe"
requests have been abrupt and rude, implying that those who can't
unsubscribe themselves are perhaps stupid, and at best not "real
engineers".

Please, there's no need for that.  Choose either to respond helpfully
and politely, or not to respond at all.  Remember that we're leading
by example here.  Let's please make the example a positive one,
presenting ourselves as a welcoming community, not as one that's
intolerant of anyone who doesn't know how we operate.  Keep in mind
that especially for the Hackathon (but for the IETF in general, as
well) we are encouraging students, those active in open source
communities, and others who may not be used to participating in these
sorts of activities through email lists, but are instead accustomed to
other tools that work in other ways.

Thanks,
Barry

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:27:00 -0000 --000000000000e2e05a05bdcd09cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 Thanks, Barry, for reframing the question in that terms. Cheers, Alexander On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:27 AM Alexandre PETRESCU < alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr> wrote: > I agree. > > -- > Alexandre Petrescualexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223 > > Le 17/03/2021 =C3=A0 14:55, Barry Leiba a =C3=A9crit : > > Folks, > A number of the responses to the recent batch of "unsubscribe" > requests have been abrupt and rude, implying that those who can't > unsubscribe themselves are perhaps stupid, and at best not "real > engineers". > > Please, there's no need for that. Choose either to respond helpfully > and politely, or not to respond at all. Remember that we're leading > by example here. Let's please make the example a positive one, > presenting ourselves as a welcoming community, not as one that's > intolerant of anyone who doesn't know how we operate. Keep in mind > that especially for the Hackathon (but for the IETF in general, as > well) we are encouraging students, those active in open source > communities, and others who may not be used to participating in these > sorts of activities through email lists, but are instead accustomed to > other tools that work in other ways. > > Thanks, > Barry > > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing listhackathon@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/list= info/hackathon > > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > --000000000000e2e05a05bdcd09cf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+1

Thanks, Barry, for reframing the= question in that terms.

Cheers,
Alexand= er


On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:27 AM Alexandre PETRESCU &= lt;alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr> wrote:
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I agree.<= br> 

--
Alexandre Petrescu
alexandre.pe=
trescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223
Le 17/03/2021 =C3=A0 14:55, Barry Leiba a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Folks,
A number of the responses to the recent batch of "unsubscribe"
requests have been abrupt and rude, implying that those who can't
unsubscribe themselves are perhaps stupid, and at best not "real
engineers".

Please, there's no need for that.  Choose either to respond helpfully
and politely, or not to respond at all.  Remember that we're leading
by example here.  Let's please make the example a positive one,
presenting ourselves as a welcoming community, not as one that's
intolerant of anyone who doesn't know how we operate.  Keep in mind
that especially for the Hackathon (but for the IETF in general, as
well) we are encouraging students, those active in open source
communities, and others who may not be used to participating in these
sorts of activities through email lists, but are instead accustomed to
other tools that work in other ways.

Thanks,
Barry

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