From nobody Tue Mar 4 04:41:02 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842331A0070 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 04:40:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HQF7rzY_avXB for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 04:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de (mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.5.186]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35891A0058 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 04:40:55 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,584,1389740400"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="261758854" Received: from mail-i4.nets.rwth-aachen.de ([137.226.12.21]) by mx-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2014 13:40:52 +0100 Received: from messenger.nets.rwth-aachen.de (messenger.nets.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.13.40]) by mail-i4.nets.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102B513DA07 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 13:40:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from MESSENGER.nets.rwth-aachen.de ([fe80::d4e:bb9d:9e0:bfee]) by MESSENGER.nets.rwth-aachen.de ([fe80::d4e:bb9d:9e0:bfee%12]) with mapi id 14.01.0218.012; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 13:40:51 +0100 From: Rene Hummen To: HIP Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01.txt Thread-Index: AQHPN4+40YQhEGEo9Uyu9S9WooEcxg== Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:40:50 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20140304095403.10444.29666.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [37.201.227.214] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0F9BF795-DBB9-4CCC-96D5-3D60C554D5C6"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hipsec/mvQ63fkN3DBLtIShon5TopMkRjg Subject: [Hipsec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01.txt X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 12:40:59 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_0F9BF795-DBB9-4CCC-96D5-3D60C554D5C6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi all, this updated version of HIP DEX (individual submission) aligns the = protocol specification with RFC5201-bis and adds new protocol features. = The main changes with respect to the previous version are as follows: * Numerous editorial changes. * New retransmission strategy. * New HIT generation mechanism. * Modified layout of ENCRYPTED_KEY parameter. * Clarify to use puzzle difficulty of zero under normal network = conditions. * Align inclusion directive of R1_COUNTER with HIPv2 (from SHOULD to = MUST). * Align inclusion of TRANSPORT_FORMAT_LIST with HIPv2 (added to R1 and = I2). * HIP_CIPHER, HIT_SUITE_LIST, and TRANSPORT_FORMAT_LIST must now be = echoed in R2 packet. * Added new author. Feedback is much appreciated. Cheers, Ren=E9 Begin forwarded message: From: > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01.txt > Date: 4 Mar 2014 10:54:03 GMT+1 > To: Robert Moskowitz , Rene Hummen = , Rene Hummen = , Robert Moskowitz = >=20 >=20 > A new version of I-D, draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01.txt > has been successfully submitted by Rene Hummen and posted to the > IETF repository. >=20 > Name: draft-moskowitz-hip-dex > Revision: 01 > Title: HIP Diet EXchange (DEX) > Document date: 2014-03-04 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 39 > URL: = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01.txt > Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-hip-dex/ > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01 > Diff: = http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01 >=20 > Abstract: > This document specifies the Host Identity Protocol Diet EXchange = (HIP > DEX), a variant of the HIP Base EXchange (HIP BEX) [rfc5201-bis]. > The HIP DEX protocol design aims at reducing the overhead of the > employed cryptographic primitives by omitting public-key signatures > and hash functions. In doing so, the main goal is to still deliver > similar security properties to HIP BEX. >=20 > The HIP DEX protocol is primarily targeted at computation or memory- > constrained sensor devices. Like HIP BEX, it is expected to be used > together with another suitable security protocol such as the > Encapsulated Security Payload (ESP) [rfc5202-bis] for the protection > of upper layer protocols. HIP DEX can also be used as a keying > mechanism for a MAC layer security protocol as is supported by IEEE > 802.15.4 [IEEE.802-15-4.2011]. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > The IETF Secretariat >=20 -- Dipl.-Inform. 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10 Mar 2014 07:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5957D1A0450; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 07:56:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.1.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140310145632.28438.67304.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 07:56:32 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hipsec/4qBqLRqtAXO7M8tuLyuhPyx5tSk Cc: hipsec@ietf.org Subject: [Hipsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-hip-rfc5203-bis-05.txt X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:56:34 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Host Identity Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : Host Identity Protocol (HIP) Registration Extension Authors : Julien Laganier Lars Eggert Filename : draft-ietf-hip-rfc5203-bis-05.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2014-03-10 Abstract: This document specifies a registration mechanism for the Host Identity Protocol (HIP) that allows hosts to register with services, such as HIP rendezvous servers or middleboxes. This document obsoletes RFC5203. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc5203-bis/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hip-rfc5203-bis-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-hip-rfc5203-bis-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Mar 10 07:57:56 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE001A0471 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 07:57:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WptBnNyTyMgA for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 07:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x235.google.com (mail-ve0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::235]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D193C1A048F for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 07:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f181.google.com with SMTP id oy12so7075507veb.40 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 07:57:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=sefKWLNr8ougwIfAKrx/OS71amjYf48Pp5SKmQ7INm8=; b=RvKASqicMP9eO189hWQLGGu97BBBprCN3jpSGDd7QBVI1+G2NgQ6IaCZDqddmOA2Cd SyNibXZb0/VlFnd+qB2mVrN/p61c7psC8nnS3pTe4ixipbdzT5j1AVcBQpzmyRF+rp2j uEi7DLOlqhsuKqIZAfap6RybIiV2Hwd7bn2zjHkyngQgNzHlHOXA2yEBoK7i2rRXm1Hr gB7wFuRpbYd+/++Y5GTGYo0eWhqw7bbfMiVF+BpNlaTTF7HdUphFMZhaB22Jm67ZHTNU 2pUwlIF6/CUBhi7GB7iUTX5a0YSPC4WJyAtnSUtZ37v1QwyeZIH5r3WfQkOej9V9ibvs XHAg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.81.66 with SMTP id y2mr22825097vdx.23.1394463464353; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 07:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.173.204 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 07:57:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <530B8958.5050104@nomadiclab.com> References: <20131211030009.544.78789.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <52B44714.2010903@nomadiclab.com> <52D806C5.1050606@nomadiclab.com> <52D94171.3010601@nomadiclab.com> <530B8958.5050104@nomadiclab.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 07:57:44 -0700 Message-ID: From: Julien Laganier To: Ari Keranen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hipsec/TM7LjWx6Azazp4TPVKKktasMFwI Cc: "hipsec@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Hipsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-hip-rfc5203-bis-03.txt X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:57:52 -0000 Hi Ari, Thanks for pointing out the typo! I have just submitted the draft. Best, --julien On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Ari Keranen wrote: > Hi Julien, > > Looks good, thanks. One small typo in section 6: "potetially unknown hosts". > > > Cheers, > Ari > > > On 21/02/14 07:04, Julien Laganier wrote: >> >> Hi Ari, >> >> Thanks for reviewing the draft and suggesting improvements. I have >> incorporated them all in the version-to-be -05, unfortunately the >> deadline has passed so I am attaching it below for your (and the rest >> of the WG) review in case you spot some errors before submission >> reopens. >> >> Cheers, >> >> --julien >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Ari Keranen >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Julien, >>> >>> >>> On 1/17/14 5:50 AM, Julien Laganier wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Ari, >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Ari Keranen >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Julien, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, that looks good to me. Although reading the draft again, I was >>>>> wondering is it missing some text regarding the "Insufficient >>>>> resources" >>>>> error? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hmm... a registration failing because of "insufficient resources" is >>>> quite explicit; it conveys enough information for a requester to know >>>> that there are no resources to create a registration at a given >>>> registrar. Presumably a requester would try to register at a different >>>> registrar if it knows one... >>>> >>>> What else would the requester need to know? >>> >>> >>> >>> I mean that it looks a bit strange that there's only an error code >>> defined >>> but no text at all when to use it (even if the name of the code kinda >>> gives >>> it away). I would recommend to add a sentence or two about when/how to >>> use >>> it. >>> >>> I spotted one (copy-paste) error in the draft, section 3.3: >>> >>> If the registrar knows the Host Identities (HIs) of all the hosts >>> that are allowed to use the relaying service, it SHOULD reject >>> registrations from unknown hosts. However, since it may be >>> unfeasible to pre-configure the relay with all the HIs, the relay >>> SHOULD also support HIP certificates [I-D.ietf-hip-rfc6253-bis] to >>> allow for certificate based authentication. >>> >>> This should no longer be "relaying service" and "relay" (2 instances >>> here) >>> but in general the service for which one is registering for. >>> >>> In the figures, at the end of the section, I was wondering why S3 is not >>> announced by the registrar? Also the text is a bit unclear; almost as if >>> RQ >>> would try to register for S1 and S2 even if the figure shows only S1. >>> >>> In section "4.5. REG_FAILED", it says "Failure types other than zero (0) >>> and >>> one (1) have not been defined." This is obviously not true anymore. >>> Perhaps >>> here would be a good place for some text on the insufficient resources >>> error >>> code. >>> >>> And by the way, I guess you can have more than one REG_FAILEDs if there >>> was >>> more than one failure type? The text seems to now imply only single >>> REG_FAILED. >>> >>> Section 6 says: >>> >>> Registrars act on a voluntary basis and are willing to accept being a >>> responder and then to create HIP associations with a number of >>> previously unknown hosts. >>> >>> Now with the HI/cert authentication this has actually improved (you only >>> potentially do things with previously unknown hosts). >>> >>> Otherwise I think the draft is in good shape and could move forward. >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ari >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hipsec mailing list >>> Hipsec@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec > > > _______________________________________________ > Hipsec mailing list > Hipsec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec From nobody Wed Mar 12 11:36:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D2B1A048A for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:36:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.446 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.446 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tia1QgUBsD3W for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from klovia.htt-consult.com (klovia.htt-consult.com [IPv6:2607:f4b8:3:0:218:71ff:fe83:66b9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00EA1A0479 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by klovia.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1865262A5B; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 18:36:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at localhost Received: from klovia.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (klovia.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2vGGbhd2y-C2; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:35:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx120e.htt-consult.com (lx120e2.htt-consult.com [208.83.67.155]) (Authenticated sender: rgm@htt-consult.com) by klovia.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 30CA362AC2; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5320A8FB.5090707@htt-consult.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:35:39 -0700 From: Robert Moskowitz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rene Hummen , HIP References: <20140304095403.10444.29666.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000009030404010209020207" Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hipsec/j7s-pGKBk7jCec5L0KIB0d30T-A Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01.txt X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 18:36:12 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000009030404010209020207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 03/04/2014 04:40 AM, Rene Hummen wrote: > Hi all, > > this updated version of HIP DEX (individual submission) aligns the protocol specification with RFC5201-bis and adds new protocol features. The main changes with respect to the previous version are as follows: > > * Numerous editorial changes. > * New retransmission strategy. > * New HIT generation mechanism. Please look at the HIT generation. I want to get this locked down. I was always a bit unsure of the trunc I was using previously. FOLD SHOULD do it. Or is MMO needed? (I think it is MMO...) > * Modified layout of ENCRYPTED_KEY parameter. > * Clarify to use puzzle difficulty of zero under normal network conditions. > * Align inclusion directive of R1_COUNTER with HIPv2 (from SHOULD to MUST). > * Align inclusion of TRANSPORT_FORMAT_LIST with HIPv2 (added to R1 and I2). > * HIP_CIPHER, HIT_SUITE_LIST, and TRANSPORT_FORMAT_LIST must now be echoed in R2 packet. > * Added new author. > > Feedback is much appreciated. > > Cheers, > René > > > Begin forwarded message: > From: >> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01.txt >> Date: 4 Mar 2014 10:54:03 GMT+1 >> To: Robert Moskowitz , Rene Hummen , Rene Hummen , Robert Moskowitz >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01.txt >> has been successfully submitted by Rene Hummen and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >> Name: draft-moskowitz-hip-dex >> Revision: 01 >> Title: HIP Diet EXchange (DEX) >> Document date: 2014-03-04 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 39 >> URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01.txt >> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-hip-dex/ >> Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01 >> Diff: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01 >> >> Abstract: >> This document specifies the Host Identity Protocol Diet EXchange (HIP >> DEX), a variant of the HIP Base EXchange (HIP BEX) [rfc5201-bis]. >> The HIP DEX protocol design aims at reducing the overhead of the >> employed cryptographic primitives by omitting public-key signatures >> and hash functions. In doing so, the main goal is to still deliver >> similar security properties to HIP BEX. >> >> The HIP DEX protocol is primarily targeted at computation or memory- >> constrained sensor devices. Like HIP BEX, it is expected to be used >> together with another suitable security protocol such as the >> Encapsulated Security Payload (ESP) [rfc5202-bis] for the protection >> of upper layer protocols. HIP DEX can also be used as a keying >> mechanism for a MAC layer security protocol as is supported by IEEE >> 802.15.4 [IEEE.802-15-4.2011]. >> >> >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> > -- > Dipl.-Inform. Rene Hummen, Ph.D. Student > Chair of Communication and Distributed Systems > RWTH Aachen University, Germany > tel: +49 241 80 21426 > web: http://www.comsys.rwth-aachen.de/team/rene-hummen/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hipsec mailing list > Hipsec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec --------------000009030404010209020207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 03/04/2014 04:40 AM, Rene Hummen wrote:
Hi all,

this updated version of HIP DEX (individual submission) aligns the protocol specification with RFC5201-bis and adds new protocol features. The main changes with respect to the previous version are as follows:

* Numerous editorial changes.
* New retransmission strategy.
* New HIT generation mechanism.

Please look at the HIT generation.  I want to get this locked down.  I was always a bit unsure of the trunc I was using previously.  FOLD SHOULD do it.  Or is MMO needed?  (I think it is MMO...)

* Modified layout of ENCRYPTED_KEY parameter.
* Clarify to use puzzle difficulty of zero under normal network conditions.
* Align inclusion directive of R1_COUNTER with HIPv2 (from SHOULD to MUST).
* Align inclusion of TRANSPORT_FORMAT_LIST with HIPv2 (added to R1 and I2).
* HIP_CIPHER, HIT_SUITE_LIST, and TRANSPORT_FORMAT_LIST must now be echoed in R2 packet.
* Added new author.

Feedback is much appreciated.

Cheers,
René


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To: Robert Moskowitz <robert.moskowitz@verizon.com>, Rene Hummen <hummen@comsys.rwth-aachen.de>, Rene Hummen <hummen@comsys.rwth-aachen.de>, Robert Moskowitz <robert.moskowitz@verizon.com>


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Name:		draft-moskowitz-hip-dex
Revision:	01
Title:		HIP Diet EXchange (DEX)
Document date:	2014-03-04
Group:		Individual Submission
Pages:		39
URL:            http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-hip-dex/
Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01
Diff:           http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-01

Abstract:
  This document specifies the Host Identity Protocol Diet EXchange (HIP
  DEX), a variant of the HIP Base EXchange (HIP BEX) [rfc5201-bis].
  The HIP DEX protocol design aims at reducing the overhead of the
  employed cryptographic primitives by omitting public-key signatures
  and hash functions.  In doing so, the main goal is to still deliver
  similar security properties to HIP BEX.

  The HIP DEX protocol is primarily targeted at computation or memory-
  constrained sensor devices.  Like HIP BEX, it is expected to be used
  together with another suitable security protocol such as the
  Encapsulated Security Payload (ESP) [rfc5202-bis] for the protection
  of upper layer protocols.  HIP DEX can also be used as a keying
  mechanism for a MAC layer security protocol as is supported by IEEE
  802.15.4 [IEEE.802-15-4.2011].




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--------------000009030404010209020207-- From nobody Thu Mar 20 01:35:38 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C642E1A077F for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 01:35:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.851 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.851 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v2NZ36W6mLFU for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 01:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw2.ericsson.se (mailgw2.ericsson.se [193.180.251.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F411A0718 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 01:35:34 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-b7f038e000005d01-fa-532aa84ddcff Received: from ESESSHC015.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw2.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 63.65.23809.D48AA235; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 09:35:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [131.160.126.169] (153.88.183.153) by smtp.internal.ericsson.com (153.88.183.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.347.0; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 09:35:24 +0100 Message-ID: <532AA84C.2020705@ericsson.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:35:24 +0200 From: Gonzalo Camarillo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: HIP X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrIJMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvja7vCq1gg5nTVS2mLprM7MDosWTJ T6YAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujHl3nzIXTGOs6Fv0kbGBsbKLkZNDQsBE4sHUjawQtpjEhXvr 2boYuTiEBA4xSrR+WsEK4axllLg/fxYjSBWvgLZE587LbCA2i4CqxPHvK5lAbDYBC4ktt+6z gNiiAlESP68sYIeoF5Q4OfMJWFxEQFKi5+5SMFtYwEGi6+U+oF4OoM3iEj2NQSBhZgE9iSlX WxghbHmJ7W/nMIPYQkBrlz9rYZnAyD8LydRZSFpmIWlZwMi8ipE9NzEzJ73caBMjMJgObvmt uoPxzjmRQ4zSHCxK4rwf3joHCQmkJ5akZqemFqQWxReV5qQWH2Jk4uCUamBsct0S5CX8PaLE YVWXSoW+ZM7nBTOCVu1bYf1t4lyXgqDbeom9eQqbX7Y9WVzO+vP0pOSDTqd0TnfbKMZ/kp1g ty5Me96PQxG1ctrhmwVvhB0I+8Q5z3/9wfob3+JELy7RnXx6Kku50cKlHu/fvOd8oTpFrm7V 3IlfO243ZF3rfMa/s23/CnsNJZbijERDLeai4kQAzUqlovQBAAA= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hipsec/po1FLRc-O9O6jZ72FflBYA83WkY Subject: [Hipsec] Publication requested for 4843bis, 5201bis, and 5202bis X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 08:35:37 -0000 Folks, FYI: I have just requested the publication of 4843bis, 5201bis, and 5202bis: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/hip/ Cheers, Gonzalo From nobody Thu Mar 20 04:35:52 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB1F1A08B5 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 04:35:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.851 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.851 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kbIB5ZsbntAK for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 04:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw2.ericsson.se (mailgw2.ericsson.se [193.180.251.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788B51A071B for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 04:35:49 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-b7f038e000005d01-da-532ad28b1d6c Received: from ESESSHC022.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw2.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id D2.F4.23809.B82DA235; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:35:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [131.160.126.169] (153.88.183.153) by smtp.internal.ericsson.com (153.88.183.86) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.347.0; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:35:39 +0100 Message-ID: <532AD28B.4010204@ericsson.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 13:35:39 +0200 From: Gonzalo Camarillo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: HIP X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrEJMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+JvjW73Ja1gg2urLC2mLprM7MDosWTJ T6YAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujMmbelgK9jNVTO+5ydjA+J+xi5GTQ0LAROLtrD2sELaYxIV7 69m6GLk4hAQOMUosWrOBEcJZyyjROW8mC0gVr4C2xIeu90wgNouAqkTPu8tg3WwCFhJbbt0H qxEViJL4eWUBO0S9oMTJmU/A4iICkhI9d5eC2cICmhJrV/cC1XAAbRaX6GkMAgkzC+hJTLna wghhy0tsfzuHGcQWAlq7/FkLywRG/llIps5C0jILScsCRuZVjOy5iZk56eVGmxiB4XRwy2/V HYx3zokcYpTmYFES5/3w1jlISCA9sSQ1OzW1ILUovqg0J7X4ECMTB6dUA2P4z4dHVoSe5pxb zFF/2iWF7bjWi0sqETeWM5xQaFpZoL7kj/1VW80vfgmLVJwrpsVNttfef3LT3QM3NruoXOg1 6FF1499z1dRPUTNJ0y0u/oul2Nkvblv2Gd3eMM16941s8anrheb5Ci9bs8lpx/WgQLbVaxry mIvD/d5xBOcuNEix0ZiwyE2JpTgj0VCLuag4EQD3rE6E9QEAAA== Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hipsec/UNL30cfUkGoZQjGmB1zNHnk9scc Subject: [Hipsec] WGLC: draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:35:51 -0000 Hi, we WGLCed this draft some time ago, but we are WGLCing it again at this point to make sure people are happy with the current version: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis/ This WGLC will end on April 6th. Please, send your comments to this list before then. Thanks, Gonzalo