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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Host Identity Protocol WG of the IETF.

        Title           : HIP Diet EXchange (DEX)
        Authors         : Robert Moskowitz
                          Rene Hummen
                          Miika Komu
	Filename        : draft-ietf-hip-dex-19.txt
	Pages           : 58
	Date            : 2020-05-04

Abstract:
   This document specifies the Host Identity Protocol Diet EXchange (HIP
   DEX), a variant of the Host Identity Protocol Version 2 (HIPv2).  The
   HIP DEX protocol design aims at reducing the overhead of the employed
   cryptographic primitives by omitting public-key signatures and hash
   functions.

   The HIP DEX protocol is primarily designed for computation or memory-
   constrained sensor/actuator devices.  Like HIPv2, it is expected to
   be used together with a suitable security protocol such as the
   Encapsulated Security Payload (ESP) for the protection of upper layer
   protocol data.  Unlike HIPv2, HIP DEX does not support Forward
   Secrecy (FS), and MUST only be used on devices where FS is
   prohibitively expensive.  In addition, HIP DEX can also be used as a
   keying mechanism for security primitives at the MAC layer, e.g., for
   IEEE 802.15.4 networks.


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This is the output of my 1st 'cherry picking' pass through Ben's 
comments.  Anyone willing to look at the changes (use the diff tool) and 
give me comments, I greatly welcome.

I will attempt to capture the rest of Ben's comments in the next rev.

Bob

On 5/4/20 5:44 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Host Identity Protocol WG of the IETF.
>
>          Title           : HIP Diet EXchange (DEX)
>          Authors         : Robert Moskowitz
>                            Rene Hummen
>                            Miika Komu
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-hip-dex-19.txt
> 	Pages           : 58
> 	Date            : 2020-05-04
>
> Abstract:
>     This document specifies the Host Identity Protocol Diet EXchange (HIP
>     DEX), a variant of the Host Identity Protocol Version 2 (HIPv2).  The
>     HIP DEX protocol design aims at reducing the overhead of the employed
>     cryptographic primitives by omitting public-key signatures and hash
>     functions.
>
>     The HIP DEX protocol is primarily designed for computation or memory-
>     constrained sensor/actuator devices.  Like HIPv2, it is expected to
>     be used together with a suitable security protocol such as the
>     Encapsulated Security Payload (ESP) for the protection of upper layer
>     protocol data.  Unlike HIPv2, HIP DEX does not support Forward
>     Secrecy (FS), and MUST only be used on devices where FS is
>     prohibitively expensive.  In addition, HIP DEX can also be used as a
>     keying mechanism for security primitives at the MAC layer, e.g., for
>     IEEE 802.15.4 networks.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-dex/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hip-dex-19
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-hip-dex-19
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-hip-dex-19
>
>
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Some text clean up and references to historical HHIT proposals.

Big item is changing hierarchy for 14/18 to 16/16 per earlier discussion.

We still need discussions on DNS formats.



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Name: draft-moskowitz-hip-hierarchical-hit
Revision: 05
Title: Hierarchical HITs for HIPv2
Document date: 2020-05-12
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 11
URL: 
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Abstract:
This document describes using a hierarchical HIT to facilitate large
deployments of managed devices. Hierarchical HITs differ from HIPv2
flat HITs by only using 64 bits for mapping the Host Identity,
freeing 32 bits to bind in a hierarchy of Registering Entities that
provide services to the consumers of hierarchical HITs.



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    <div class="moz-text-html" lang="x-unicode"> Some text clean up and
      references to historical HHIT proposals.<br>
      <br>
      Big item is changing hierarchy for 14/18 to 16/16 per earlier
      discussion.<br>
      <br>
      We still need discussions on DNS formats.<br>
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        A new version of I-D,
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        Name: draft-moskowitz-hip-hierarchical-hit<br>
        Revision: 05<br>
        Title: Hierarchical HITs for HIPv2<br>
        Document date: 2020-05-12<br>
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        Pages: 11<br>
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        <br>
        Abstract:<br>
        This document describes using a hierarchical HIT to facilitate
        large<br>
        deployments of managed devices. Hierarchical HITs differ from
        HIPv2<br>
        flat HITs by only using 64 bits for mapping the Host Identity,<br>
        freeing 32 bits to bind in a hierarchy of Registering Entities
        that<br>
        provide services to the consumers of hierarchical HITs.<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Host Identity Protocol WG of the IETF.

        Title           : HIP Diet EXchange (DEX)
        Authors         : Robert Moskowitz
                          Rene Hummen
                          Miika Komu
	Filename        : draft-ietf-hip-dex-20.txt
	Pages           : 59
	Date            : 2020-05-21

Abstract:
   This document specifies the Host Identity Protocol Diet EXchange (HIP
   DEX), a variant of the Host Identity Protocol Version 2 (HIPv2).  The
   HIP DEX protocol design aims at reducing the overhead of the employed
   cryptographic primitives by omitting public-key signatures and hash
   functions.

   The HIP DEX protocol is primarily designed for computation or memory-
   constrained sensor/actuator devices.  Like HIPv2, it is expected to
   be used together with a suitable security protocol such as the
   Encapsulated Security Payload (ESP) for the protection of upper layer
   protocol data.  Unlike HIPv2, HIP DEX does not support Forward
   Secrecy (FS), and MUST only be used on devices where FS is
   prohibitively expensive.  In addition, HIP DEX can also be used as a
   keying mechanism for security primitives at the MAC layer, e.g., for
   IEEE 802.15.4 networks.


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I made it through all of Ben's comments with this version.

This should be the home stretch.  So take a read, please.

Bob

On 5/21/20 10:24 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Host Identity Protocol WG of the IETF.
>
>          Title           : HIP Diet EXchange (DEX)
>          Authors         : Robert Moskowitz
>                            Rene Hummen
>                            Miika Komu
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-hip-dex-20.txt
> 	Pages           : 59
> 	Date            : 2020-05-21
>
> Abstract:
>     This document specifies the Host Identity Protocol Diet EXchange (HIP
>     DEX), a variant of the Host Identity Protocol Version 2 (HIPv2).  The
>     HIP DEX protocol design aims at reducing the overhead of the employed
>     cryptographic primitives by omitting public-key signatures and hash
>     functions.
>
>     The HIP DEX protocol is primarily designed for computation or memory-
>     constrained sensor/actuator devices.  Like HIPv2, it is expected to
>     be used together with a suitable security protocol such as the
>     Encapsulated Security Payload (ESP) for the protection of upper layer
>     protocol data.  Unlike HIPv2, HIP DEX does not support Forward
>     Secrecy (FS), and MUST only be used on devices where FS is
>     prohibitively expensive.  In addition, HIP DEX can also be used as a
>     keying mechanism for security primitives at the MAC layer, e.g., for
>     IEEE 802.15.4 networks.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-dex/
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Name:		draft-moskowitz-orchid-cshake
Revision:	01
Title:		Using cSHAKE in ORCHIDs
Document date:	2020-05-21
Group:		Individual Submission
Pages:		8
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    This document specifies how to use the cSHAKE hash for ORCHID
    generation and allows for varying sized hashes in the ORCHID along
    with additional information within the ORCHID.  It is an addendum to
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