From nobody Wed Jul 8 14:52:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietf.org Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4660B3A0776; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:52:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: hipsec@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.7.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hipsec@ietf.org Message-ID: <159424513022.10918.15658898956295221277@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 14:52:10 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Hipsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-hip-dex-21.txt X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:52:11 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Host Identity Protocol WG of the IETF. Title : HIP Diet EXchange (DEX) Authors : Robert Moskowitz Rene Hummen Miika Komu Filename : draft-ietf-hip-dex-21.txt Pages : 60 Date : 2020-07-08 Abstract: This document specifies the Host Identity Protocol Diet EXchange (HIP DEX), a variant of the Host Identity Protocol Version 2 (HIPv2). The HIP DEX protocol design aims at reducing the overhead of the employed cryptographic primitives by omitting public-key signatures and hash functions. The HIP DEX protocol is primarily designed for computation or memory- constrained sensor/actuator devices. Like HIPv2, it is expected to be used together with a suitable security protocol such as the Encapsulated Security Payload (ESP) for the protection of upper layer protocol data. Unlike HIPv2, HIP DEX does not support Forward Secrecy (FS), and MUST only be used on devices where FS is prohibitively expensive. In addition, HIP DEX can also be used as a keying mechanism for security primitives at the MAC layer, e.g., for IEEE 802.15.4 networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-dex/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hip-dex-21 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-hip-dex-21 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-hip-dex-21 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Jul 8 22:57:55 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietf.org Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DB13A0F9E; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 22:57:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke_via_Datatracker?= To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-hip-dex@ietf.org, hip-chairs@ietf.org, hipsec@ietf.org, Gonzalo Camarillo , gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.7.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke?= Message-ID: <159427427377.7827.18380509913463134612@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 22:57:53 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Hipsec] =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke=27s_Yes_on_draft-ietf-hip-de?= =?utf-8?q?x-21=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 05:57:54 -0000 Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-hip-dex-21: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-dex/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This document was deferred by Terry Manderson in May 2018. The authors have taken into account all COMMENTs from the 2018 ballot, changing several parts of the document based on those COMMENTs. The document went successfully through a new IETF last call and the authors have addressed all points raised during this Last Call (including the SECDIR review by Don Eastlake). Security AD have currently some DISCUSSs based on the May 2020 telechat (that was cancelled pending the fix to those DISCUSS). Authors have addressed all DISCUSS (and some COMMENTs) points raised during the IESG review in revision -21. 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hip-chairs@ietf.org, hipsec@ietf.org, Gonzalo Camarillo , gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.8.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Benjamin Kaduk Message-ID: <159486313728.32101.12876601376848387572@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:32:17 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Hipsec] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-31: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 01:32:17 -0000 Benjamin Kaduk has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-31: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for addressing the potential "cross-message" attack on the HMAC contents of RELAY_HMAC/RVS_HMAC by prohibiting the Control Relay Server from offering the rendezvous services. I think in order for the protection against the attack to be complete, though, we need to say that a HIP peer attempting to reach a Control Relay Server MUST reject any messages appearing to originate from that server, that contain an RVS_HMAC parameter. That is, the current text will keep honest actors from generating the bad situation, but we also want to protect ourselves against accepting input from a bad actor attempting to cause the bad situation. Thank you as well for addressing all of my other comments on the -30. They seem generally satisfactory, and my apologies for not responding to them sooner. I just have two remaining remarks: Section 1 tunneling overhead). Another solution is specified in [RFC5770], which will be referred to "Legacy ICE-HIP" in this document. The nit: s/to/to as/ Section 4.6.2 [RFC7401] section 5.3.5 states that UPDATE packets have to include either a SEQ or ACK parameter (but can include both). According to the RFC, each SEQ parameter should be acknowledged separately. In I don't see anything to support "acknowledged separately"; on the contrary, I see "A host MAY choose to acknowledge more than one UPDATE packet at a time; e.g., the ACK parameter may contain the last two SEQ values received, for resilience against packet loss." Perhaps the intent was "each SEQ parameter needs to be explicitly acknowledged"? From nobody Wed Jul 15 23:16:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietf.org Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730AD3A07BB; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 23:16:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Martin Duke via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal@ietf.org, hip-chairs@ietf.org, hipsec@ietf.org, Gonzalo Camarillo , gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.8.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Martin Duke Message-ID: <159488019805.15632.6827888990814697952@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 23:16:38 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Hipsec] Martin Duke's Discuss on draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-31: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 06:16:38 -0000 Martin Duke has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-31: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sec 4.2 and 4.6.2 specify a minimum of RTO of 500ms. There’s no way you would know this, but draft-ietf-tcpm-rto-consider is close to IESG approval and specifies a minimum of 1 second without more information about the path. I would prefer that we change these minimums but perhaps there’s a compelling reason for 500ms? RFC 5770 is a normative downref. I couldn’t find indication the procedures in RFC 3967 or 4897 were followed to address this. One solution would be to downgrade this document to Experimental. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for an easy-to-read document. 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Title: New Cryptographic Algorithms for HIP
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Abstract:
This document provides new cryptographic algorithms to be used with
HIP. The Edwards Elliptic Curve and the Keccak sponge functions are
the main focus. The HIP parameters and processing instructions
impacted by these algorithms are defined.



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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:05:50 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Host Identity Protocol WG of the IETF. Title : Native NAT Traversal Mode for the Host Identity Protocol Authors : Ari Keranen Jan Melén Miika Komu Filename : draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-32.txt Pages : 67 Date : 2020-07-27 Abstract: This document specifies a new Network Address Translator (NAT) traversal mode for the Host Identity Protocol (HIP). The new mode is based on the Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) methodology and UDP encapsulation of data and signaling traffic. The main difference from the previously specified modes is the use of HIP messages instead of ICE for all NAT traversal procedures due to the kernel-space dependencies of HIP. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:21:51 -0000 Martin Duke has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-32: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for an easy-to-read document -- and for addressing my DISCUSS! From nobody Tue Jul 28 07:44:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietf.org Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552A23A0CD6; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 07:44:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Magnus Westerlund via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal@ietf.org, hip-chairs@ietf.org, hipsec@ietf.org, Gonzalo Camarillo , gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.10.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Magnus Westerlund Message-ID: <159594746088.21356.7585376503791092508@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 07:44:21 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Hipsec] Magnus Westerlund's No Objection on draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-32: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 14:44:22 -0000 Magnus Westerlund has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-32: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for resolving and answering my questions. I have only one minor comment that I noticed due to that you edit the text: Section 2: "Following [RFC5770] and SDP [RFC3264] ..." RFC 3264 is not SDP, it is the "Offer/Answer model with SDP" there is a significant difference, as SDP base spec is RFC4566. 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