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Specification required?

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<p>Specification required?</p>

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Can someone work on some text here?

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<p>Can someone work on some text here?</p>

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Proposes additional text in security considerations around changing from privileged to non-privileged ports; addresses #73.
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  * Merge remote-tracking branch 'httpwg/master'
  * Proposed text for port changes

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    M draft-ietf-httpbis-alt-svc.xml (40)

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<p>Proposes additional text in security considerations around changing from privileged to non-privileged ports; addresses <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/73" class="issue-link" title="Alt-Svc:  Elevation of privilege">#73</a>.</p>

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Text giving recommendations for guarding against spoofed certs.
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<p>Text giving recommendations for guarding against spoofed certs.</p>

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<p>Merged <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/97" class="issue-link" title="Issue 73:  Text for port-privilege change">#97</a>.</p>

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An alternate can send an Alt-Svc field that overrides that sent by the origin and is cached on an equal basis.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/99

-- Commit Summary --

  * Alternates are authoritative

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-httpbis-alt-svc.xml (5)

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<p>An alternate can send an Alt-Svc field that overrides that sent by the origin and is cached on an equal basis.</p>

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Maybe
> ...not designed to carry the scheme, unless the alternate uses the same protocol implied by the scheme.

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Merged #99.

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The text on pinning is fine.  If the intent is expand on the authentication requirements for alternatives, the first sentence would suffice.

I'm concerned that the "additional requirements" you describe here might lead to interoperability problems.  If these aren't specified, we are left to guess what the validation requirements are for any given client.  I recognize that failure to authenticate an alternative doesn't necessarily translate into a fatal error - the alternative is just not used.  However, I'm wondering what the motivation for the change is.

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<p>The text on pinning is fine.  If the intent is expand on the authentication requirements for alternatives, the first sentence would suffice.</p>

<p>I'm concerned that the "additional requirements" you describe here might lead to interoperability problems.  If these aren't specified, we are left to guess what the validation requirements are for any given client.  I recognize that failure to authenticate an alternative doesn't necessarily translate into a fatal error - the alternative is just not used.  However, I'm wondering what the motivation for the change is.</p>

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Closed #72.

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<p>Closed <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/72" class="issue-link" title="Conflicts between Alt-Svc and ALPN">#72</a>.</p>

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This is from #76, which I should have tagged.  You argued against the spec requiring an identical cert, and I agree that synchronization and security of the cert could certainly be an issue.  However, the client might already have some data about the certs used by the origin and could reasonably expect some similarity between them.

As I said in the issue, I think cautious implementations will probably do *something* here, and I'd prefer the possibility to be mentioned in the spec so it's something operators will be aware of.

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<p>This is from <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/76" class="issue-link" title="Alt-Svc and Cert Pinning">#76</a>, which I should have tagged.  You argued against the spec requiring an identical cert, and I agree that synchronization and security of the cert could certainly be an issue.  However, the client might already have some data about the certs used by the origin and could reasonably expect some similarity between them.</p>

<p>As I said in the issue, I think cautious implementations will probably do <em>something</em> here, and I'd prefer the possibility to be mentioned in the spec so it's something operators will be aware of.</p>

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Suggestion from Ted:

"for use whenever a server operator has received a legal demand to deny access to a resource or to a set of resources which includes the requested resource."

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<p>Suggestion from Ted:</p>

<p>"for use whenever a server operator has received a legal demand to deny access to a resource or to a set of resources which includes the requested resource."</p>

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I'm not sure that this is editorial; it's caused by the lack of standardized header field syntax.

Even if the algorithm pays attention to quoted-string, it's still going to fail if the field syntax uses different quoting mechanisms, such as Link's coded-URL.

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<p>I'm not sure that this is editorial; it's caused by the lack of standardized header field syntax.</p>

<p>Even if the algorithm pays attention to quoted-string, it's still going to fail if the field syntax uses different quoting mechanisms, such as Link's coded-URL.</p>

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#1 I'll leave for rfc-ed
#2 added in -03
#3.1/2 added in -03
#4 added in -03

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<p><a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/1" class="issue-link" title="Indicating Chosen Service">#1</a> I'll leave for rfc-ed<br>
<a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/2" class="issue-link" title="Flushing Alt-Svc Cache">#2</a> added in -03<br>
<a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/3" class="issue-link" title="alt-svc header field syntax">#3</a>.1/2 added in -03<br>
<a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/4" class="issue-link" title="Intermediaries and Alt-Svc">#4</a> added in -03</p>

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Added in -03

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