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Closed #123.

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<p>Closed <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/123" class="issue-link" title="alt-svc: Question about parameters">#123</a>.</p>

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Various editorial proposal for AltSVC
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/124

-- Commit Summary --

  * Updates Host Authentication.
  * Various editorial nits.

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-httpbis-alt-svc.xml (35)

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<p>Various editorial proposal for AltSVC</p>

<hr>

<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/124'>https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/124</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Updates Host Authentication.</li>
  <li>Various editorial nits.</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/124/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-httpbis-alt-svc.xml</a>
    (35)
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/124.patch'>https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/124.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/124.diff'>https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/124.diff</a></li>
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In a world with ServiceWorkers, where it's easy to mint new headers based on various UA-reported and app/user specific preference, I don't think it's a one-off. 

That said, I guess one solution to this is to have the client collapse some of those headers that interact with each other into a unique preference/header, or massagge reported values to effectively achieve the same grouping -- e.g. if Save-Data is present then override DPR header to always report 1.x, etc.

With that in mind, perhaps what we have here is sufficient?

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<p>In a world with ServiceWorkers, where it's easy to mint new headers based on various UA-reported and app/user specific preference, I don't think it's a one-off. </p>

<p>That said, I guess one solution to this is to have the client collapse some of those headers that interact with each other into a unique preference/header, or massagge reported values to effectively achieve the same grouping -- e.g. if Save-Data is present then override DPR header to always report 1.x, etc.</p>

<p>With that in mind, perhaps what we have here is sufficient?</p>

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>From Herv=C3=A9 Ruellan <herveruellan@crfcanonfr>  in <https://listsw3org=
/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2015OctDec/0375html>:

In 24, the third paragraphs says that a client can become aware of =

multiple alternative services, citing: "or, an alternative service might =

itself advertise an alternative"

However, due to the invalidation rule, if an alternative service =

advertise an alternative, this new alternative invalidates the previous =

list of alternatives
So if you have Origin -> alt1 -> alt2, then you keep only alt2 and don't =

have a list
I therefore propose to remove the "or, an alternative service might =

itself advertise an alternative"


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<p>From Herv=C3=A9 Ruellan <a href=3D"mailto:herveruellan@crfcanonfr">her=
veruellan@crfcanonfr</a>  in <a href=3D"https://listsw3org/Archives/Publi=
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<p>In 24, the third paragraphs says that a client can become aware of <br=
>
multiple alternative services, citing: "or, an alternative service might =
<br>
itself advertise an alternative"</p>

<p>However, due to the invalidation rule, if an alternative service <br>
advertise an alternative, this new alternative invalidates the previous <=
br>
list of alternatives<br>
So if you have Origin -&gt; alt1 -&gt; alt2, then you keep only alt2 and =
don't <br>
have a list<br>
I therefore propose to remove the "or, an alternative service might <br>
itself advertise an alternative"</p>

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>From @hruellan in <https://listsw3org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2015OctDec/0375html>:


Section 31 defines the rule for invalidation However, in my sense it 
is not crystal clear that it applies also to alternatives discovered 
through the ALTSVC frame
I'd suggest adding that the ALTSVC frame is just another way of 
transmitting an Alt-SVC header field, and therefore all the rules 
applying to the header field also apply to the frame
We may want to go a step further and say the rules defined for the 
Alt-SVC header field apply to any other possibility of discovering 
alternative services (including those not supported)


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<p>From <a href="https://github.com/hruellan" class="user-mention">@hruellan</a> in <a href="https://listsw3org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2015OctDec/0375html">https://listsw3org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2015OctDec/0375html</a>:</p>

<p>Section 31 defines the rule for invalidation However, in my sense it <br>
is not crystal clear that it applies also to alternatives discovered <br>
through the ALTSVC frame<br>
I'd suggest adding that the ALTSVC frame is just another way of <br>
transmitting an Alt-SVC header field, and therefore all the rules <br>
applying to the header field also apply to the frame<br>
We may want to go a step further and say the rules defined for the <br>
Alt-SVC header field apply to any other possibility of discovering <br>
alternative services (including those not supported)</p>

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<p>Closed <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/125" class="issue-link" title="alternative of alternatives vs invalidation">#125</a>.</p>

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<p>Closed <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/126" class="issue-link" title="clarify invalidation rules wrt altsvc frame">#126</a>.</p>

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Even a pull request feels heavy-weight for this....
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  * Remove extraneous comma

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    M draft-ietf-httpbis-alt-svc.xml (2)

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<p>Even a pull request feels heavy-weight for this....</p>

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Need to check that this is OK first.
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  * Expanding the length of the IKM when derived from an authentication secret
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  * Canonical encoding to octets of context
  * Merge pull request #5 from martinthomson/auth
  * Update template
  * Disallow duplicated values in the Encryption and Crypto-Key headers
  * Merge pull request #6 from beverloo/duplicated-values
  * Update SHA-256 ref
  * Fixing reference
  * Fixing X9.62 ref
  * Fixing template
  * Adding encrypted content encoding

-- File Changes --

    M .gitignore (5)
    M Makefile (11)
    M README.md (13)
    A draft-ietf-httpbis-encryption-encoding.md (840)

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Initial commit</li>
  <li>Initial version</li>
  <li>24825</li>
  <li>Update</li>
  <li>Update to show location of key</li>
  <li>Noting manual maintenance options</li>
  <li>Updating README</li>
  <li>Adding panache</li>
  <li>Travis speedup</li>
  <li>Missing var</li>
  <li>Updates based on testing</li>
  <li>Fixing formatting</li>
  <li>Fixing draft name selection</li>
  <li>Sorting to get the right answer</li>
  <li>Tweaks</li>
  <li>Now supports drafts authored using outline.el (i.e. draft-*.org)</li>
  <li>Fixed ordering issue found by Martin.</li>
  <li>Merge pull request #2 from kwatsen/master</li>
  <li>Adding rfcdiff</li>
  <li>More toying with Makefile an diff cration.</li>
  <li>Based on input from Martin.</li>
  <li>Fixing intermediate handling</li>
  <li>Adding update target</li>
  <li>Permitting local changes to files</li>
  <li>I don&#39;t like using if in Makefile shells</li>
  <li>Getting revisions right</li>
  <li>Removing ugly sed hack</li>
  <li>Removing false error</li>
  <li>Fixing ordering</li>
  <li>Updating to include PDF</li>
  <li>Updating README</li>
  <li>Fixing variables on HTML</li>
  <li>ignoring pdf</li>
  <li>Fix make clean so it doesn&#39;t delete the source XML. Add a readme target, that copies the draft txt to README.md (after wrapping in backticks for formatting)</li>
  <li>Merge pull request #7 from wkumari/master</li>
  <li>Explaining tagging a little better.  Closes #8.</li>
  <li>Removing dead text</li>
  <li>Moving submission guidance to a new file.</li>
  <li>Updating travis sync notes</li>
  <li>setup-ghpages</li>
  <li>Update docs</li>
  <li>Fixes</li>
  <li>Oops</li>
  <li>Fixing travis error</li>
  <li>Recommend virtualenv for pip</li>
  <li>Merge pull request #9 from kuba/virtualenv</li>
  <li>Beefing up installation instructions</li>
  <li>Adding draft</li>
  <li>Updating travis config</li>
  <li>Rework intro</li>
  <li>Rework format description</li>
  <li>Correct error in derivation</li>
  <li>Reflow</li>
  <li>Fixup of grammar</li>
  <li>Removing some errors</li>
  <li>Update from upstream</li>
  <li>Using idref db on github</li>
  <li>Updating header field definitions</li>
  <li>Properly qualify &#39;key&#39; on each use</li>
  <li>Being more precise about what message means</li>
  <li>Some key management, not none</li>
  <li>Editorial fixes</li>
  <li>The last record size is smaller than rs+taglength</li>
  <li>Padding is right 1-256, not 0-255</li>
  <li>Removing confusion about the use of &#39;nonce&#39;</li>
  <li>CEK -&gt; IKM as a constraint on salt uniqueness</li>
  <li>At least 16 octets, not exactly</li>
  <li>Scoping Encryption-Key</li>
  <li>Lengths on examples were wrong</li>
  <li>Reuse implications</li>
  <li>Starting from a non-zero nonce</li>
  <li>The hyphen must die</li>
  <li>Adding record sizing note; s/byte/octet</li>
  <li>...when decoded</li>
  <li>Merge pull request #3 from martinthomson/mattsson</li>
  <li>Moving IANA considerations, fixing capitals</li>
  <li>Updating JWE text</li>
  <li>Updating references</li>
  <li>Crediting John properly</li>
  <li>s/key/aesgcm128/g</li>
  <li>Fixing header definition</li>
  <li>Cleanup</li>
  <li>Setup repository for draft-thomson-http-encryption</li>
  <li>Updating acknowledgments</li>
  <li>Updating build setup</li>
  <li>Adding fix for contributory behaviour; renaming Encryption-Key to Crypto-Key; fixing examples</li>
  <li>Updating examples to include new label</li>
  <li>Adding note about expanded context</li>
  <li>Fixing ABNF declarations</li>
  <li>Adding authentication secret section</li>
  <li>Expanding the length of the IKM when derived from an authentication secret</li>
  <li>Additional corrections/clarifications</li>
  <li>Canonical encoding to octets of context</li>
  <li>Merge pull request #5 from martinthomson/auth</li>
  <li>Update template</li>
  <li>Disallow duplicated values in the Encryption and Crypto-Key headers</li>
  <li>Merge pull request #6 from beverloo/duplicated-values</li>
  <li>Update SHA-256 ref</li>
  <li>Fixing reference</li>
  <li>Fixing X9.62 ref</li>
  <li>Fixing template</li>
  <li>Adding encrypted content encoding</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/128/files#diff-0">.gitignore</a>
    (5)
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/128/files#diff-1">Makefile</a>
    (11)
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/128/files#diff-2">README.md</a>
    (13)
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  <li>
    <strong>A</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/128/files#diff-3">draft-ietf-httpbis-encryption-encoding.md</a>
    (840)
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<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/128.patch'>https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/128.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/128.diff'>https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/128.diff</a></li>
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    A writeups/alt-svc.md (69)

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Closed #93.

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<p>Closed <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/93" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/93" data-id="104190496" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#93</a>.</p>

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Out of curiosity, why this was closed?

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<p>Out of curiosity, why this was closed?</p>

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Merged #128.

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<p>Merged <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/128" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/128" data-id="123605796" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#128</a>.</p>

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