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@timbray, thoughts? I think this is editors' discretion (although historically we do try to avoid using RFC2119 keywords in this manner).

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<p><a href="https://github.com/timbray" class="user-mention">@timbray</a>, thoughts? I think this is editors' discretion (although historically we do try to avoid using RFC2119 keywords in this manner).</p>

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Closed #131.

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You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/134

-- Commit Summary --

  * move same-host restriction out of alt-svc
  * massage "strong authentication" language

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-httpbis-alt-svc.xml (52)
    M draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-encryption.md (30)

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>move same-host restriction out of alt-svc</li>
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    <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/134/files#diff-1">draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-encryption.md</a>
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Each record currently includes between 1 and 256 octets of padding, while the default record size is set to 4096 octets. This is in many cases not sufficient, for example in the pad-to-next-power-of-two case.

Extending the padding length to two octets will allow up to 65537 octets (65KB) of padding.

I raised this on the ietf-http-wg list here:
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Martin [raises a good point](https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2016JanMar/0175.html) about an upgrade path for existing users. I'll reply on the mailing list to not split the discussion. 

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<p>Each record currently includes between 1 and 256 octets of padding, while the default record size is set to 4096 octets. This is in many cases not sufficient, for example in the pad-to-next-power-of-two case.</p>

<p>Extending the padding length to two octets will allow up to 65537 octets (65KB) of padding.</p>

<p>I raised this on the ietf-http-wg list here:<br>
    <a href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2016JanMar/0171.html">https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2016JanMar/0171.html</a></p>

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This is a proposal to address issue #135

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  * Use two octets to indicate record padding length in httpbis-encryption-encoding

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    M draft-ietf-httpbis-encryption-encoding.md (10)

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<p>This is a proposal to address issue <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/135" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/135" data-id="129438375" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#135</a></p>

<p>/cc <a href="https://github.com/martinthomson" class="user-mention">@martinthomson</a> </p>

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<ul>
  <li>Use two octets to indicate record padding length in httpbis-encryption-encoding</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/136/files#diff-0">draft-ietf-httpbis-encryption-encoding.md</a>
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In order to allow existing applications to update from one octet of
padding per record to two (PR #136, Issue #135), this PR renames
"aesgcm128" to "aesgcm" as the value for the Content-Encoding header,
as well as the parameter name in the Crypto-Key header.

This also affects the context used for deriving the nonce and the
content encryption key. Examples have been updated.

What I did not update is the JWE mapping (currently "A128GCM"). Do
we wish to change that to "AGCM", which may be less descriptive?
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  * Rename aesgcm128 to aesgcm to provide an update path

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-httpbis-encryption-encoding.md (62)

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<p>In order to allow existing applications to update from one octet of<br>
padding per record to two (PR <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/136" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/136" data-id="129438584" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#136</a>, Issue <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/135" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/135" data-id="129438375" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#135</a>), this PR renames<br>
"aesgcm128" to "aesgcm" as the value for the Content-Encoding header,<br>
as well as the parameter name in the Crypto-Key header.</p>

<p>This also affects the context used for deriving the nonce and the<br>
content encryption key. Examples have been updated.</p>

<p>What I did not update is the JWE mapping (currently "A128GCM"). Do<br>
we wish to change that to "AGCM", which may be less descriptive?</p>

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Maybe @reschke =


In [RFC7538](http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7538#section-4) there is a men=
tion of `meta refresh` in HTML. I have seen instances online of a `Refres=
h` HTTP header. I haven't found any documentation about it in the past (o=
r maybe I missed the appropriate RFC). I [met the header again yesterday]=
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D668275#c52) in an instanc=
e of gmail Web site.

When requesting
`=E2=86=92 http --print hH https://mail.google.com/ 'User-Agent:Mozilla/5=
.0 (Android 4.4.4; Mobile; rv:44.0) Gecko/44.0 Firefox/44.0' 'Accept-Lang=
uage:en-US,en;q=3D0.5'`

```http
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Alt-Svc: quic=3D":443"; ma=3D604800; v=3D"30,29,28,27,26,25"
Alternate-Protocol: 443:quic,p=3D1
Cache-Control: private, max-age=3D604800
Content-Length: 306
Content-Type: application/xhtml+xml; charset=3DISO-8859-1
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 00:57:39 GMT
Expires: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 00:57:39 GMT
Refresh: 0;URL=3Dhttps://mail.google.com/mail/
Server: GSE
X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
X-XSS-Protection: 1; mode=3Dblock
```

You might not be able to reproduce gmail has tons of versions depending o=
n the location, devices, headers, etc.

I have started to [test a bit and write about it last year](http://www.ot=
sukare.info/2015/03/26/refresh-http-header). It seems implemented uniform=
ly, but that would require a bit more test. =


What would be the best course of actions for documenting it? Maybe I can =
give it a shot. =



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<p>Maybe <a href=3D"https://github.com/reschke" class=3D"user-mention">@r=
eschke</a> </p>

<p>In <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7538#section-4">RFC7538</a=
> there is a mention of <code>meta refresh</code> in HTML. I have seen in=
stances online of a <code>Refresh</code> HTTP header. I haven't found any=
 documentation about it in the past (or maybe I missed the appropriate RF=
C). I <a href=3D"https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D668275#c5=
2">met the header again yesterday</a> in an instance of gmail Web site.</=
p>

<p>When requesting<br>
<code>=E2=86=92 http --print hH https://mail.google.com/ 'User-Agent:Mozi=
lla/5.0 (Android 4.4.4; Mobile; rv:44.0) Gecko/44.0 Firefox/44.0' 'Accept=
-Language:en-US,en;q=3D0.5'</code></p>

<div class=3D"highlight highlight-source-httpspec"><pre>HTTP/<span class=3D=
"pl-c1">1.1</span> <span class=3D"pl-c1">200</span> OK
<span class=3D"pl-s"><span class=3D"pl-v">Alt-Svc:</span> quic=3D":443"; =
ma=3D604800; v=3D"30,29,28,27,26,25"</span>
<span class=3D"pl-s"><span class=3D"pl-v">Alternate-Protocol:</span> 443:=
quic,p=3D1</span>
<span class=3D"pl-s"><span class=3D"pl-v">Cache-Control:</span> private, =
max-age=3D604800</span>
<span class=3D"pl-s"><span class=3D"pl-v">Content-Length:</span> 306</spa=
n>
<span class=3D"pl-s"><span class=3D"pl-v">Content-Type:</span> applicatio=
n/xhtml+xml; charset=3DISO-8859-1</span>
<span class=3D"pl-s"><span class=3D"pl-v">Date:</span> Thu, 28 Jan 2016 0=
0:57:39 GMT</span>
<span class=3D"pl-s"><span class=3D"pl-v">Expires:</span> Thu, 28 Jan 201=
6 00:57:39 GMT</span>
<span class=3D"pl-s"><span class=3D"pl-v">Refresh:</span> 0;URL=3Dhttps:/=
/mail.google.com/mail/</span>
<span class=3D"pl-s"><span class=3D"pl-v">Server:</span> GSE</span>
<span class=3D"pl-s"><span class=3D"pl-v">X-Content-Type-Options:</span> =
nosniff</span>
<span class=3D"pl-s"><span class=3D"pl-v">X-Frame-Options:</span> SAMEORI=
GIN</span>
<span class=3D"pl-s"><span class=3D"pl-v">X-XSS-Protection:</span> 1; mod=
e=3Dblock</span></pre></div>

<p>You might not be able to reproduce gmail has tons of versions dependin=
g on the location, devices, headers, etc.</p>

<p>I have started to <a href=3D"http://www.otsukare.info/2015/03/26/refre=
sh-http-header">test a bit and write about it last year</a>. It seems imp=
lemented uniformly, but that would require a bit more test. </p>

<p>What would be the best course of actions for documenting it? Maybe I c=
an give it a shot. </p>

<p style=3D"font-size:small;-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;color:#666;">&m=
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A short Internet-Draft might do it. Would need to align with https://html.spec.whatwg.org/#attr-meta-http-equiv-refresh

@annevk thoughts?

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<p>A short Internet-Draft might do it. Would need to align with <a href="https://html.spec.whatwg.org/#attr-meta-http-equiv-refresh">https://html.spec.whatwg.org/#attr-meta-http-equiv-refresh</a></p>

<p><a href="https://github.com/annevk" class="user-mention">@annevk</a> thoughts?</p>

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I don't see how that would imply that, but I also have not heard about non-browser support.

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<p>I don't see how that would imply that, but I also have not heard about non-browser support.</p>

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I don't think it particularly matters where it's defined, as long as we make sure it's reviewed by the appropriate folks and registered. 

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<p>I don't think it particularly matters where it's defined, as long as we make sure it's reviewed by the appropriate folks and registered. </p>

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