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Sounds good and clear to me.

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<p>Sounds good and clear to me.</p>

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I agree that using "field-name" over there makes this a bit clearer.

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<p>I agree that using "field-name" over there makes this a bit clearer.</p>

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I wouldn't say comma is "typical" -- it depends a bit on the use case. For instance, alt-svc uses a list of comma-delimited directives, each of which can have semicolon delimited parameters.

In any case, if this does not use commas, the spec ought to state what happens when commas turn up in a field value, or if a field occurs multiple times in a messages (this is stated for the other client hints).

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<p>I wouldn't say comma is "typical" -- it depends a bit on the use case. For instance, alt-svc uses a list of comma-delimited directives, each of which can have semicolon delimited parameters.</p>

<p>In any case, if this does not use commas, the spec ought to state what happens when commas turn up in a field value, or if a field occurs multiple times in a messages (this is stated for the other client hints).</p>

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"Servers can advertise support for Client Hints using the Accept-CH header field or an equivalent HTML meta element with http-equiv attribute ([W3C.REC-html5-20141028])."

In which case it should be added to https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/PragmaExtensions  (like it or not).

"When a client receives Accept-CH, it SHOULD append the Client Hint header fields that match the advertised field-values. For example, based on Accept-CH example above, the client would append DPR, Width, Viewport-Width, and Downlink header fields to all subsequent requests."

Q: does the SHOULD also apply to the HTML http-equiv variant?



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<p>"Servers can advertise support for Client Hints using the Accept-CH header field or an equivalent HTML meta element with http-equiv attribute ([W3C.REC-html5-20141028])."</p>

<p>In which case it should be added to <a href="https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/PragmaExtensions">https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/PragmaExtensions</a>  (like it or not).</p>

<p>"When a client receives Accept-CH, it SHOULD append the Client Hint header fields that match the advertised field-values. For example, based on Accept-CH example above, the client would append DPR, Width, Viewport-Width, and Downlink header fields to all subsequent requests."</p>

<p>Q: does the SHOULD also apply to the HTML http-equiv variant?</p>

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@reschke all of the other definitions use "X request header field is a Y that...". If we change one we should change all the rest. Is this something we want or need to do?

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<p><a href="https://github.com/reschke" class="user-mention">@reschke</a> all of the other definitions use "X request header field is a Y that...". If we change one we should change all the rest. Is this something we want or need to do?</p>

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> I wouldn't say comma is "typical" -- it depends a bit on the use case. For instance, alt-svc uses a list of comma-delimited directives, each of which can have semicolon delimited parameters.

That, indeed, was the intent - e.g. "on;video-only". 

Re, OWS: good catch. Addressed in https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/190.

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> Q: does the SHOULD also apply to the HTML http-equiv variant?

Yes. Is there a common term we can use here to refer to both the header field value and attribute value?

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<p>Yes. Is there a common term we can use here to refer to both the header field value and attribute value?</p>

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You decide; maybe I am too pedantic...

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<p>You decide; maybe I am too pedantic...</p>

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Well, that implies that every user agent SHOULD parse HTML and process <meta> elements. Is this a realistic requirement?

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<p>Well, that implies that every user agent SHOULD parse HTML and process  elements. Is this a realistic requirement?</p>

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<p>Use cases mentioned in Introduction.</p>

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@martinthomson I take it you're comfortable with the amount of consultation done to this point? If so, please close (doubtless we'll get more in WGLC and beyond).

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<p><a href="https://github.com/martinthomson" class="user-mention">@martinthomson</a> I take it you're comfortable with the amount of consultation done to this point? If so, please close (doubtless we'll get more in WGLC and beyond).</p>

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>From @martinthomson on http-gw:

> This is reasonable.  A boolean `mixed-scheme` member that has to be
> true seems appropriate.  It's cheap enough to warrant doing.

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<p>This is reasonable.  A boolean <code>mixed-scheme</code> member that has to be<br>
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> This "all subsequent requests" is obviously intended to be qualified
> somehow. It's not "all requests to all servers ever", is it? Should it
> be "all subsequent requests to the same origin"? Should it be "all
> subsequent requests to this resource"?
>
> Likewise, the "SHOULD append" phrase is unclear: append to what exactly?

How about...

> When a client receives Accept-CH, or if it is capable of processing the HTML response and finds an equivalent HTML meta element, it SHOULD append the Client-Hint header fields that match the advertised field-values to the header list of all subsequent requests. For example, based on Accept-CH example above, a user agent could append DPR, Width, Viewport-Width, and Downlink header fields to all subresource requests initiated by the page constructed from the response. Alternatively, a client may remember the preference at origin level and advertise same header fields on all future requests initiated to and by the resources associated with that origin.

In other words, it's not the intent of this spec to spell out a specific behavior, we leave that to the client.

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<p>From: <a href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2016AprJun/0322.html">https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2016AprJun/0322.html</a></p>

<blockquote>
<p>This "all subsequent requests" is obviously intended to be qualified<br>
somehow. It's not "all requests to all servers ever", is it? Should it<br>
be "all subsequent requests to the same origin"? Should it be "all<br>
subsequent requests to this resource"?</p>

<p>Likewise, the "SHOULD append" phrase is unclear: append to what exactly?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>How about...</p>

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<p>When a client receives Accept-CH, or if it is capable of processing the HTML response and finds an equivalent HTML meta element, it SHOULD append the Client-Hint header fields that match the advertised field-values to the header list of all subsequent requests. For example, based on Accept-CH example above, a user agent could append DPR, Width, Viewport-Width, and Downlink header fields to all subresource requests initiated by the page constructed from the response. Alternatively, a client may remember the preference at origin level and advertise same header fields on all future requests initiated to and by the resources associated with that origin.</p>
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<p>In other words, it's not the intent of this spec to spell out a specific behavior, we leave that to the client.</p>

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SGTM, where "may" ought to be "MAY" or "can".

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<p>SGTM, where "may" ought to be "MAY" or "can".</p>

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Thanks, updated in https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/190. 

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<p>Thanks, updated in <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/190" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/190" data-id="158009139" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#190</a>. </p>

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Not sure we closed the original issue here - confirm?

~~~
{
  "http://example.com": {
    "tls-ports": [443]
  },
  "http://www.example.com:81": {
    "tls-ports": [],
    "tls-commit": true
  }
  "http:/other.example.com": {
    "tis-ports": [443,8080],
    "tls-commit": true
  }
}
~~~

With some sort of lifetime mechanism. That could be a `lifetime` member, or it could be HTTP caching freshness lifetime.

If we have a `lifetime` member, I think we have to either a) require it on EVERY origin, or b) fall back to HTTP caching freshness lifetime.

I know my preference. @martinthomson?


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<p>Not sure we closed the original issue here - confirm?</p>

<pre><code>{
  "http://example.com": {
    "tls-ports": [443]
  },
  "http://www.example.com:81": {
    "tls-ports": [],
    "tls-commit": true
  }
  "http:/other.example.com": {
    "tis-ports": [443,8080],
    "tls-commit": true
  }
}
</code></pre>

<p>With some sort of lifetime mechanism. That could be a <code>lifetime</code> member, or it could be HTTP caching freshness lifetime.</p>

<p>If we have a <code>lifetime</code> member, I think we have to either a) require it on EVERY origin, or b) fall back to HTTP caching freshness lifetime.</p>

<p>I know my preference. <a href="https://github.com/martinthomson" class="user-mention">@martinthomson</a>?</p>

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`draft-ietf-httpbis-encryption-encoding.md`:

>      encryption_params =3D [ parameter *( ";" parameter ) ]

>      crypto_key_params =3D [ parameter *( ";" parameter ) ]

These rules do not permit whitespace between a semicolon and a parameter,=
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>      encryption_params =3D [ parameter *( OWS ";" OWS parameter ) ]

>      crypto_key_params =3D [ parameter *( OWS ";" OWS parameter ) ]

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<p><code>draft-ietf-httpbis-encryption-encoding.md</code>:</p>

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<pre><code> encryption_params =3D [ parameter *( ";" parameter ) ]

 crypto_key_params =3D [ parameter *( ";" parameter ) ]
</code></pre>
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<p>These rules do not permit whitespace between a semicolon and a paramet=
er, which was probably intended (judging from the examples and from simil=
ar rules elsewhere in HTTP). They should be rewritten as follows:</p>

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<pre><code> encryption_params =3D [ parameter *( OWS ";" OWS parameter ) =
]

 crypto_key_params =3D [ parameter *( OWS ";" OWS parameter ) ]
</code></pre>
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<p>and the import of the <code>OWS</code> rule from RFC=C2=A07230 should =
be noted in the preceding text (=E2=80=9CThe "Encryption" header field us=
es the extended ABNF syntax .=C2=A0.=C2=A0.=E2=80=9D and similarly for <c=
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`draft-ietf-httpbis-encryption-encoding.md`:

> This memo registers the "encrypted" HTTP content-coding

should be:

> This memo registers the "aesgcm" HTTP content-coding

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<p><code>draft-ietf-httpbis-encryption-encoding.md</code>:</p>

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<p>This memo registers the "encrypted" HTTP content-coding</p>
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<p>should be:</p>

<blockquote>
<p>This memo registers the "aesgcm" HTTP content-coding</p>
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@mnot we're still missing integration with HTML spec - see https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/155#issuecomment-216901306. I was using this as a tracker for that work, perhaps we should rename this one?

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<p><a href="https://github.com/mnot" class="user-mention">@mnot</a> we're still missing integration with HTML spec - see <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/155#issuecomment-216901306" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/155" data-id="140096510" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#155 (comment)</a>. I was using this as a tracker for that work, perhaps we should rename this one?</p>

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> @@ -143,12 +143,11 @@ For example:
>    Accept-CH: DPR, Width, Viewport-Width, Downlink
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> -When a client receives Accept-CH, it SHOULD append the Client Hint header fields that match the advertised field-values. For example, based on Accept-CH example above, the client would append DPR, Width, Viewport-Width, and Downlink header fields to all subsequent requests.
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s/may treat/can treat/

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/190#discussion_r66098734">draft-ietf-httpbis-client-hints.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -143,12 +143,11 @@ For example:
&gt;    Accept-CH: DPR, Width, Viewport-Width, Downlink
&gt;  ~~~
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&gt; -When a client receives Accept-CH, it SHOULD append the Client Hint header fields that match the advertised field-values. For example, based on Accept-CH example above, the client would append DPR, Width, Viewport-Width, and Downlink header fields to all subsequent requests.
&gt; -
&gt; +When a client receives Accept-CH, or if it is capable of processing the HTML response and finds an equivalent HTML meta element, it SHOULD append the Client-Hint header fields that match the advertised field-values to the header list of all subsequent requests. For example, based on Accept-CH example above, a user agent could append DPR, Width, Viewport-Width, and Downlink header fields to all subresource requests initiated by the page constructed from the response. Alternatively, a client may treat advertised support as a persistent origin preference and append same header fields on all future requests initiated to and by the resources associated with that origin.
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> @@ -244,10 +243,10 @@ If Downlink occurs in a message more than once, the minimum value should be used
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maybe "consists of"  instead of "is"?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/190#discussion_r66098848">draft-ietf-httpbis-client-hints.md</a>:</p>
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&gt; +The &quot;Save-Data&quot; request header field is one or more tokens that indicate client&#39;s preference for reduced data usage, due to high transfer costs, slow connection speeds, or other reasons.
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A few improvements, I hope.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Improving definition of keyid
  * Removing lame examples

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<p>A few improvements, I hope.</p>

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Closes #194
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  * Adding OWS.  Closes #194

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<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/194" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/194" data-id="158881595" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#194</a></p>

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Closes #195
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  * Oops in the intro paragraph.

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    M draft-ietf-httpbis-encryption-encoding.md (2)

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<p>Closes <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/195" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/195" data-id="158881739" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#195</a></p>

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That's what's currently in the spec; see straw-man I made before you said "that works".

The problem is that doing so doesn't seem to address the original issue here.

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<p>That's what's currently in the spec; see straw-man I made before you said "that works".</p>

<p>The problem is that doing so doesn't seem to address the original issue here.</p>

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RFC 6265 section 5.3 defines a cookie by the name, domain, and path.  However, given these two headers in a response from a request to http://contoso.com/:

Set-Cookie: mycookie=nothostonly; domain=contoso.com
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Most browsers will have two cookies since they include host-only-flag in their definition of a unique cookie.  I'd like to update section 4.1.2 and 5.3 to reflect the behavior of modern browsers with regards to host-only-flag.

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<p>RFC 6265 section 5.3 defines a cookie by the name, domain, and path.  However, given these two headers in a response from a request to <a href="http://contoso.com/">http://contoso.com/</a>:</p>

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<p>Most browsers will have two cookies since they include host-only-flag in their definition of a unique cookie.  I'd like to update section 4.1.2 and 5.3 to reflect the behavior of modern browsers with regards to host-only-flag.</p>

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Good question. The most relevant text in CH is:

> When doing so, and if the resource is cacheable, the server MUST also emit a Vary response header field (Section 7.1.4 of [RFC7231]), and optionally Key ([I-D.ietf-httpbis-key]), to indicate which hints can affect the selected response and whether the selected response is appropriate for a later request.

Later:

> Client Hints MAY be combined with Key ([I-D.ietf-httpbis-key]) to enable fine-grained control of the cache key for improved cache efficiency. For example, the server can return the following set of instructions

This feels more like informative than normative.

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<p>Good question. The most relevant text in CH is:</p>

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<p>When doing so, and if the resource is cacheable, the server MUST also emit a Vary response header field (Section 7.1.4 of [RFC7231]), and optionally Key ([I-D.ietf-httpbis-key]), to indicate which hints can affect the selected response and whether the selected response is appropriate for a later request.</p>
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<p>Later:</p>

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<p>Client Hints MAY be combined with Key ([I-D.ietf-httpbis-key]) to enable fine-grained control of the cache key for improved cache efficiency. For example, the server can return the following set of instructions</p>
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<p>This feels more like informative than normative.</p>

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<p><a href="https://github.com/enygren" class="user-mention">@enygren</a>, if you object please reopen.</p>

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Closed #191 via #193.

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<p>Closed <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/191" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/191" data-id="158077496" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#191</a> via <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/193" class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-url="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/193" data-id="158287262" data-error-text="Failed to load issue title" data-permission-text="Issue title is private">#193</a>.</p>

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Merged #193.

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"true" or just true.  The quotes could imply string.

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<p>"true" or just true.  The quotes could imply string.</p>

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Adding "strict"  breaks TXT generation with the old version of xml2rfc version: it rightfully complains about the lack of a Security Considerations section and aborts.


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<p>Adding "strict"  breaks TXT generation with the old version of xml2rfc version: it rightfully complains about the lack of a Security Considerations section and aborts.</p>

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Closing, as we have a separate draft for this now.

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<p>Closing, as we have a separate draft for this now.</p>

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a suggestion for 6265bis' title such that the term "cookies" is included...

    Cookies: HTTP State Management Mechanism


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<p>a suggestion for 6265bis' title such that the term "cookies" is included...</p>

<pre><code>Cookies: HTTP State Management Mechanism
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Raised on list by Kari Hurtta.  Option 6.
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<p>Raised on list by Kari Hurtta.  Option 6.</p>

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Kari raised several concerns on-list.  They seem like editorial things.
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  * Retrieving the http-opportunistic resource is ideal
  * Just limit the lifetime of the origin object if a commitment is too long

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    M draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-encryption.md (15)

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<p>Kari raised several concerns on-list.  They seem like editorial things.</p>

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This probably isn't the end of this issue though.  We require that an opportunistic upgrade uses the same hostname.  The text I added here lifts the requirement regarding port numbers, but should it also say that the hostname needs to remain the same?

I've left this open here, but I think that we probably should leave the hostname requirement in place.  That way, we still retain some of the aspects of http:// authority.
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  * Making tls-commit and tls-ports mutually exclusive

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    M draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-encryption.md (4)

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<p>This probably isn't the end of this issue though.  We require that an opportunistic upgrade uses the same hostname.  The text I added here lifts the requirement regarding port numbers, but should it also say that the hostname needs to remain the same?</p>

<p>I've left this open here, but I think that we probably should leave the hostname requirement in place.  That way, we still retain some of the aspects of http:// authority.</p>

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I get this warning.
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Do we really need to use saxon here, or is `xsltproc` enough now?

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<p>I get this warning.</p>

<pre><code>Warning: at xsl:transform on line 42 column 2 of clean-for-DTD.xslt:
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<p>Do we really need to use saxon here, or is <code>xsltproc</code> enough now?</p>

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It's harmless. (Would be good if we could turn it off, though)

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<p>It's harmless. (Would be good if we could turn it off, though)</p>

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> @@ -171,6 +171,12 @@ Connection: close
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>  ~~~
>  
> +The JSON format for the http-opportunistic resource makes it possible to include multiple values
> +for the same origin.  Variations in case allow for duplicate keys that a JSON parser will treat
> +as different.  Duplicated keys might not be detected by a client (see Section 4 of {{RFC7159}}).
> +A client SHOULD NOT use origin objects if multiple keys match, though it MAY use any origin
> +object with a matching key.
> +

The SHOULD NOT might not be implementable if the parser doesn't report the fact...

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/205#discussion_r69069747">draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-encryption.md</a>:</p>
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&gt;  }
&gt;  ~~~
&gt;  
&gt; +The JSON format for the http-opportunistic resource makes it possible to include multiple values
&gt; +for the same origin.  Variations in case allow for duplicate keys that a JSON parser will treat
&gt; +as different.  Duplicated keys might not be detected by a client (see Section 4 of {{RFC7159}}).
&gt; +A client SHOULD NOT use origin objects if multiple keys match, though it MAY use any origin
&gt; +object with a matching key.
&gt; +
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<p>The SHOULD NOT might not be implementable if the parser doesn't report the fact...</p>

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> +as different.  Duplicated keys might not be detected by a client (see Section 4 of {{RFC7159}}).
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> +object with a matching key.
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That's why it's a SHOULD NOT and not MUST NOT.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/205#discussion_r69074049">draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-encryption.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -171,6 +171,12 @@ Connection: close
&gt;  }
&gt;  ~~~
&gt;  
&gt; +The JSON format for the http-opportunistic resource makes it possible to include multiple values
&gt; +for the same origin.  Variations in case allow for duplicate keys that a JSON parser will treat
&gt; +as different.  Duplicated keys might not be detected by a client (see Section 4 of {{RFC7159}}).
&gt; +A client SHOULD NOT use origin objects if multiple keys match, though it MAY use any origin
&gt; +object with a matching key.
&gt; +
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<p>That's why it's a SHOULD NOT and not MUST NOT.</p>

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