From nobody Mon Jan 9 09:15:16 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: id-event@ietf.org Delivered-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7655B129499; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:15:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.40.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148398211548.24968.11519576985684967025.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 09:15:15 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: id-event@ietf.org Subject: [Id-event] I-D Action: draft-hunt-idevent-token-08.txt X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:15:15 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Security Events of the IETF. Title : Security Event Token (SET) Authors : Phil Hunt William Denniss Morteza Ansari Michael B. Jones Filename : draft-hunt-idevent-token-08.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2017-01-09 Abstract: This specification defines the Security Event Token, which may be distributed via a protocol such as HTTP. The Security Event Token (SET) specification profiles the JSON Web Token (JWT) and may be optionally signed and/or encrypted. A SET describes a statement of fact that may be shared by an event publisher with event subscribers. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hunt-idevent-token/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jan 9 09:20:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D35129554 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:20:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tDtZ27qKgxna for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 828B212711D for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v09HKspF016331 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:20:54 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v09HKsFu006130 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:20:54 GMT Received: from abhmp0017.oracle.com (abhmp0017.oracle.com [141.146.116.23]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v09HKsDt018870 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:20:54 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.16] (/174.7.250.104) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 09:20:54 -0800 From: Phil Hunt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F145AF9C-DFDE-4D0E-B5EB-ED8560BEB754" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:20:53 -0800 References: <148398211548.24968.11519576985684967025.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: ID Events Mailing List In-Reply-To: <148398211548.24968.11519576985684967025.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Id-event] I-D Action: draft-hunt-idevent-token-08.txt X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:20:57 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F145AF9C-DFDE-4D0E-B5EB-ED8560BEB754 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This draft includes edits suggested by Yaron including the requested = change in wording to the definition of the events claim. Specifically the muddled notion of primary vs. extension event types has = been removed. It is still possible to extend an event but the spec is = now silent on the issue. Phil @independentid www.independentid.com = phil.hunt@oracle.com = > On Jan 9, 2017, at 9:15 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the Security Events of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Security Event Token (SET) > Authors : Phil Hunt > William Denniss > Morteza Ansari > Michael B. Jones > Filename : draft-hunt-idevent-token-08.txt > Pages : 18 > Date : 2017-01-09 >=20 > Abstract: > This specification defines the Security Event Token, which may be > distributed via a protocol such as HTTP. The Security Event Token > (SET) specification profiles the JSON Web Token (JWT) and may be > optionally signed and/or encrypted. A SET describes a statement of > fact that may be shared by an event publisher with event = subscribers. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hunt-idevent-token/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-hunt-idevent-token-08 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event --Apple-Mail=_F145AF9C-DFDE-4D0E-B5EB-ED8560BEB754 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii This draft includes edits suggested by Yaron including the = requested change in wording to the definition of the events claim.

Specifically the muddled = notion of primary vs. extension event types has been removed. It is = still possible to extend an event but the spec is now silent on the = issue.




On Jan 9, 2017, at 9:15 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line = Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of = the Security Events of the IETF.

=        Title =           : Security = Event Token (SET)
=        Authors =         : Phil Hunt
= =             &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;William Denniss
=             &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;Morteza Ansari
=             &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;Michael B. Jones
Filename =        : = draft-hunt-idevent-token-08.txt
Pages =           : 18
= Date =            : = 2017-01-09

Abstract:
=   This specification defines the Security Event Token, which = may be
  distributed via a protocol such as = HTTP.  The Security Event Token
  (SET) = specification profiles the JSON Web Token (JWT) and may be
=   optionally signed and/or encrypted.  A SET describes a = statement of
  fact that may be shared by an = event publisher with event subscribers.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hunt-idevent-token/<= br class=3D"">
There's also a htmlized version available = at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hunt-idevent-token-08

A diff from the previous version is available = at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-hunt-idevent-token-08=


Please note that it may = take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
until = the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by = anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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= --Apple-Mail=_F145AF9C-DFDE-4D0E-B5EB-ED8560BEB754-- From nobody Mon Jan 9 09:36:48 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973B712941D for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:36:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4yQZ6i52zEYY for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBE56129548 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v09Hajvf006275 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:36:45 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v09Haio5026602 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:36:45 GMT Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v09Hai1b022319 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 17:36:44 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.16] (/174.7.250.104) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 09:36:44 -0800 From: Phil Hunt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0348BD4F-9837-4AAF-8DA6-107B698B2A91" Message-Id: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 09:36:43 -0800 To: ID Events Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] Archived-At: Subject: [Id-event] Current implementation info requested X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:36:47 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_0348BD4F-9837-4AAF-8DA6-107B698B2A91 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Per Yaron=E2=80=99s suggestion that we follow RFC7942 and list current = implementations while the draft is being revised, could people reply to = this message and let me know if you know of a: JWT Library that: a) Should support the current draft b) Is known to support the current draft c) Is known to have issues Once I have some data I=E2=80=99ll be happy to add it to the next = revision per RFC7942. Thanks. Phil @independentid www.independentid.com = phil.hunt@oracle.com = --Apple-Mail=_0348BD4F-9837-4AAF-8DA6-107B698B2A91 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Per Yaron=E2=80=99s suggestion that we follow RFC7942 and = list current implementations while the draft is being revised, could = people reply to this message and let me know if you know of a:

JWT Library = that:
a)  Should support the current = draft
b)  Is known to support the current = draft
c)  Is known to have issues

Once I have some data = I=E2=80=99ll be happy to add it to the next revision per = RFC7942.

Thanks.




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Dick and I are proposing that the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 as a working group document.

Please respond by Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, we would appreciate a reason.

For those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to be "ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After adoption, the group gets to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus.

Thanks,

    Yaron

--------------EC94F464D2600F9C085C3DFE-- From nobody Fri Jan 13 11:49:38 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8911E1293F3 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:49:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.419 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.419 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MjL4Rg5Mqafy for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71B7B129D4A for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v0DJnWk8030779 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 19:49:32 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v0DJnWH6029801 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 19:49:32 GMT Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v0DJnUsB016639; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 19:49:31 GMT Received: from [10.0.1.30] (/24.86.208.48) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:49:30 -0800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_81F4BBDE-6AC0-439B-9758-44183441145D" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Phil Hunt In-Reply-To: <0e708221-8bc3-4fc1-664e-98b08da722b7@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:49:27 -0800 Message-Id: References: <0e708221-8bc3-4fc1-664e-98b08da722b7@gmail.com> To: Yaron Sheffer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] Archived-At: Cc: ID Events Mailing List Subject: Re: [Id-event] WG adoption of draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 19:49:36 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_81F4BBDE-6AC0-439B-9758-44183441145D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Agreed, thanks for putting this forward. Thanks, Phil Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Services @independentid www.independentid.com = phil.hunt@oracle.com = > On Jan 13, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Yaron Sheffer = wrote: >=20 > Dick and I are proposing that the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 = as a = working group document. >=20 > Please respond by Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, = we would appreciate a reason. >=20 > For those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to = be "ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After adoption, the group = gets to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus. > Thanks, >=20 > Yaron > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event --Apple-Mail=_81F4BBDE-6AC0-439B-9758-44183441145D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Agreed, thanks for putting this = forward.

Thanks,

Phil

Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud = Services
@independentid
www.independentid.com
phil.hunt@oracle.com






On Jan 13, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

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Dick = and I are proposing that the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 as a working group document.

Please respond by = Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, we would appreciate a reason.

For those not = familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to be "ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After adoption, the group gets to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus.

Thanks,

    = Yaron

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draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:26:11 -0000 --001a1143848ecc44450545ffa44e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I fully support this. On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Phil Hunt wrote: > Agreed, thanks for putting this forward. > > Thanks, > > Phil > > Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Services > @independentid > www.independentid.com > phil.hunt@oracle.com > > > > > > > On Jan 13, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Yaron Sheffer wrote: > > Dick and I are proposing that the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 > as a working > group document. > > Please respond by Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, we > would appreciate a reason. > > For those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to be > "ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After adoption, the group gets to > decide on the protocol details by rough consensus. > > Thanks, > > Yaron > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event > > > > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event > > -- Adam Dawes | Sr. Product Manager | adawes@google.com | +1 650-214-2410 --001a1143848ecc44450545ffa44e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I fully support this.=C2=A0

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Phil Hun= t <phil.hunt@oracle.com> wrote:
Agreed, thanks for puttin= g this forward.

Thanks,

<= div>
= Phil

Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Services
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On Jan 13, 2= 017, at 9:38 AM, Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

=20 =20 =20

Dick and I are proposing tha= t the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 as a working group document.

Please respond by Jan. 22 with you= r support or objection. Either way, we would appreciate a reason.

For those not familiar with = IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to be "ready" when adopted, only "good enough&quo= t;. After adoption, the group gets to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus.

Thanks,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Yaron

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--001a1143848ecc44450545ffa44e-- From nobody Fri Jan 13 12:40:45 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7EB129E2A for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:40:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZnT587HWoeq0 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-io0-x22f.google.com (mail-io0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F656129AE4 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-io0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id v96so52540787ioi.0 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:40:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=R1ygmzLdfROds82WRwbzAA3eWwmMWccR3ZNgAw0XiAA=; b=onR4y+JxYGlHQMBYxepM6daC7VylpEcc8hU4l6pFbzJ2yQXudDVOKDmuSQZsz3WLme uJR7093EWkKSIq9lWIsNlXR7OrHE5A3SY0posRGHaH2H7iFesId8kfUtVRd1ci9H0ayv bMCCZIhFn16RzqyIShc+ozYGDKfsGY3FeNUpzfUTZlyR8MczuCYukTyi7uyOgcaYriJd Lznv3NuwqS+uCI7xwfAEJlc+W7i5oQdzI1Q+AaaVvudid08e09bUp76JGz7gpLDzAsMx c1Cdj31Q6MGVIOrUNBM6kq2Pv5Y85a/2U2Wvy42YbF8OSok46L6qURLlvz5QdLBIFoZ+ YlcQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=R1ygmzLdfROds82WRwbzAA3eWwmMWccR3ZNgAw0XiAA=; b=tobuIXiwo//SNJ6S/ug5iTckYCGWtdFxFlEdwh78/h8GYWHudMQdDNygIapiCwqBoR IkhVIWHz5tWqjxnE5X6EL25Dc/gj2MKvGNiogglzwgkc1b+X2Q+nHXR1atbS9XYhvk3U OJ8BXFndxdrGgZM30F0TL3m+0JmHi/gg0J+tOgCLCcwqqMsy9PVxm1boFkxqMxaN5uEB RTEG8NjQzAVdsxUPeKOIggEqJXUaYKgsTE8Zr3aSEB/pohBwIrXkisbg38vmF7XgZAAd /CnX9EK+HWYL4BHoIlkF4Al5hEMuear9qlwlD2L0998jDyiGIGheans3377v4LrRKsWz Tb2g== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLw7RqmqH39BRDNdFH7CnPctwIaEEUYtzEBJ5WWaNZRfv4q6nuErNcVbCKtbFY264fooGhg/EdT2x8BJR/o X-Received: by 10.107.15.70 with SMTP id x67mr19500667ioi.103.1484340041198; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:40:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.135.164 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:40:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <0e708221-8bc3-4fc1-664e-98b08da722b7@gmail.com> From: Marius Scurtescu Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:40:20 -0800 Message-ID: To: Adam Dawes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113ed7fee1ff090545ffd8bd Archived-At: Cc: Yaron Sheffer , ID Events Mailing List , Phil Hunt Subject: Re: [Id-event] WG adoption of draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:40:44 -0000 --001a113ed7fee1ff090545ffd8bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I definitely support the adoption of draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 as a working group document. I carefully reviewed every revision so far. Marius On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Adam Dawes wrote: > I fully support this. > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Phil Hunt wrote: > >> Agreed, thanks for putting this forward. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Phil >> >> Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Services >> @independentid >> www.independentid.com >> phil.hunt@oracle.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 13, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Yaron Sheffer wrote: >> >> Dick and I are proposing that the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 >> as a >> working group document. >> >> Please respond by Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, we >> would appreciate a reason. >> >> For those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to be >> "ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After adoption, the group gets to >> decide on the protocol details by rough consensus. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Yaron >> _______________________________________________ >> Id-event mailing list >> Id-event@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Id-event mailing list >> Id-event@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event >> >> > > > -- > Adam Dawes | Sr. Product Manager | adawes@google.com | +1 650-214-2410 > <(650)%20214-2410> > > > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event > > --001a113ed7fee1ff090545ffd8bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I definitely support the adoption of=C2=A0draft-hunt-ideve= nt-token-08 as a working group document.

I carefully rev= iewed every revision so far.

Marius

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Adam Dawes= <adawes@google.com> wrote:
I fully support this.=C2=A0

On Fri, Jan 13, 2= 017 at 11:49 AM, Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com> wrote:<= br>
= Agreed, thanks for putting this forward.

Thanks,

Phil

Oracle Corporation, Ide= ntity Cloud Services
@independentid
phil.hunt@oracle.com






On Jan 13, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> wrot= e:

=20 =20 =20

Dick and I are proposing tha= t the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 as a working group document.

Please respond by Jan. 22 with you= r support or objection. Either way, we would appreciate a reason.

For those not familiar with = IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to be "ready" when adopted, only "good enough&quo= t;. After adoption, the group gets to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus.

Thanks,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Yaron

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--001a113ed7fee1ff090545ffd8bd-- From nobody Fri Jan 13 18:07:04 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1BB129625 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 18:07:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dt52ZPTEqw4D for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 18:07:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu [18.9.25.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56EEF129597 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 18:07:01 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 1209190e-75bff700000077ff-0e-587987c39c82 Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.39]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id EC.98.30719.3C789785; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:07:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id v0E26xTh005699; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:06:59 -0500 Received: from [192.168.128.57] (static-96-237-195-53.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [96.237.195.53]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as jricher@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id v0E26v2h021770 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:06:59 -0500 To: Yaron Sheffer , ID Events Mailing List References: <0e708221-8bc3-4fc1-664e-98b08da722b7@gmail.com> From: Justin Richer Message-ID: <6a79dc3f-7001-1d12-e61d-70fb80e300e0@mit.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:06:54 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0e708221-8bc3-4fc1-664e-98b08da722b7@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0351F4506586FE9296490746" X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrOIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6nrnukvTLCYPZPfouOBd1MFqvuz2B3 YPLYOesuu8eSJT+ZApiiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDJWv5nGUrBdrOLChSbmBsZXgl2MHBwSAiYS 7zs1uxi5OIQE2pgkGuccZO9i5ARyNjJKTHwUBJG4zSTx8+FeZpCEsICTxOVtF8CKRATiJDY8 2cwK0WAjsexQDxOIzSagKjF9TQuYzStgJfH8zHsWEJsFKP5y3jQ2EFtUIEbi7frl7BA1ghIn Zz4Bq+EUsJVoed4GtotZIEzi8ZNzrBMY+WYhKZuFJAVh20rcmbubGcKWl9j+dg6UrSuxaNsK dph489bZzAsY2VYxyqbkVunmJmbmFKcm6xYnJ+blpRbpGuvlZpbopaaUbmIEhS+nJN8OxkkN 3ocYBTgYlXh4f4hXRgixJpYVV+YeYpTkYFIS5f2uWhEhxJeUn1KZkVicEV9UmpNafIhRgoNZ SYT3bQNQOW9KYmVValE+TEqag0VJnPdSpnuEkEB6YklqdmpqQWoRTFaGg0NJgtexFahRsCg1 PbUiLTOnBCHNxMEJMpwHaPjUNpDhxQWJucWZ6RD5U4yKUuK820GaBUASGaV5cL2g9JLw9rDp K0ZxoFeEeSWByUaIB5ia4LpfAQ1mAhp80aYcZHBJIkJKqoHRv4Phiyzn/1Tlras+n7jPO834 /5+4iA+vOt2dNl2u1jA7I7dSPV+NJXLBpH1xS05mNYl97wx0j3OYwffn25IwhcOLAnInnO0x F2TvefqttuzutFj5T5Em5ZOUzn6T6FY6LH7FfGbxnH9BFzak9ij7TzmTzerzv1VvrfgCLomM YwsLvkou8T+hxFKckWioxVxUnAgAfZTNqAoDAAA= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Id-event] WG adoption of draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:07:03 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0351F4506586FE9296490746 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I support the adoption of this draft as a working group item. -- Justin On 1/13/2017 12:38 PM, Yaron Sheffer wrote: > > Dick and I are proposing that the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 > as a > working group document. > > Please respond by Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, > we would appreciate a reason. > > For those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to > be "ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After adoption, the group > gets to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus. > > Thanks, > > Yaron > > > > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event --------------0351F4506586FE9296490746 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I support the adoption of this draft as a working group item.

 -- Justin


On 1/13/2017 12:38 PM, Yaron Sheffer wrote:

Dick and I are proposing that the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 as a working group document.

Please respond by Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, we would appreciate a reason.

For those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to be "ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After adoption, the group gets to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus.

Thanks,

    Yaron



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+1, I support the adoptio= n of this draft as a working group item.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Justin R= icher <jricher@mit.edu> wrote:
=20 =20 =20

I support the adoption of this draft as a working group item.

=C2=A0-- Justin


On 1/13/2017 12:38 PM, Yaron Sheffer wrote:
=20

Dick and I are proposing that the WG adopt draft-hun= t-idevent-token-08 as a working group document.

Please respond by Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, we would appreciate a reason.

For those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to be "ready" when adopted, only "good enough&q= uot;. After adoption, the group gets to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus.

Thanks,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Yaron



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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:26:49 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_6BD89471-2482-488C-84CD-6B107488EC48 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F8156D05-513C-4E29-A240-8A34D1E75A31" --Apple-Mail=_F8156D05-513C-4E29-A240-8A34D1E75A31 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have reviewed the document and support it becoming a Working group = draft. John B. > On Jan 17, 2017, at 6:32 PM, William Denniss = wrote: >=20 > +1, I support the adoption of this draft as a working group item. >=20 > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Justin Richer > wrote: > I support the adoption of this draft as a working group item. >=20 > -- Justin >=20 > On 1/13/2017 12:38 PM, Yaron Sheffer wrote: >> Dick and I are proposing that the WG adopt = draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 = as a = working group document. >>=20 >> Please respond by Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, = we would appreciate a reason. >>=20 >> For those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to = be "ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After adoption, the group = gets to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus. >> Thanks, >>=20 >> Yaron >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Id-event mailing list >> Id-event@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event = >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event = >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event --Apple-Mail=_F8156D05-513C-4E29-A240-8A34D1E75A31 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I have reviewed the document and support it becoming a = Working group draft.

John B.
On Jan 17, 2017, at 6:32 PM, William Denniss = <wdenniss@google.com> wrote:

+1, I support the = adoption of this draft as a working group item.

On Fri, = Jan 13, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> wrote:
=20 =20 =20

I = support the adoption of this draft as a working group item.

 -- Justin


On = 1/13/2017 12:38 PM, Yaron Sheffer wrote:

Dick and I are proposing = that the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 as a working group document.

Please respond by = Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, we would appreciate a reason.

For = those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to be "ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After adoption, the group gets to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus.

Thanks,

    = Yaron


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RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fu7o-AP892bR for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:18:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from p3plsmtpa07-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F6ED1293E8 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:18:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([90.154.175.234]) by :SMTPAUTH: with SMTP id TkVMcbogYxlddTkVNcAyue; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 00:18:02 -0700 To: id-event@ietf.org References: <0e708221-8bc3-4fc1-664e-98b08da722b7@gmail.com> From: Vladimir Dzhuvinov Organization: Connect2id Ltd. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 09:17:59 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0e708221-8bc3-4fc1-664e-98b08da722b7@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms000404000906080504040506" X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfHynaEZU2kez9IUjHbDzXVNxLUCWpGgnVowoGaZ5i3CSy5/AQTROdmuFZ4u1k8FqCIdDbjlMCUXpV3SgOPQ3nsmFdU0PnKAj2yaF9Dh3c4+T+9qxjm9z Mpo6o6Ds9jeO/AN9zn8/JrZKrUuakptkSSjgD8VhhmLZOuhMuOEPVj7JMIQMIAke9Y5qM1+5+DwYhg== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Id-event] WG adoption of draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 07:18:35 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000404000906080504040506 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------5FC106B38AA526178F60AB7E" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5FC106B38AA526178F60AB7E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I support the adoption, this is an important spec. Thanks, Vladimir On 13/01/17 19:38, Yaron Sheffer wrote: > Dick and I are proposing that the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 > as a > working group document. > > Please respond by Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, > we would appreciate a reason. > > For those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to > be "ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After adoption, the group > gets to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus. > > Thanks, > > Yaron > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event --------------5FC106B38AA526178F60AB7E Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I support the adoption, this is an important spec.

Thanks,

Vladimir


On 13/01/17 19:38, Yaron Sheffer wrote= :
Dick and I are proposing that the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/do= c/draft-hunt-idevent-token/> as a working group document.

Please respond by Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, we would appreciate a reason.

For those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to be "ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After adoption, the group gets to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus.

Thanks,

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 20:35:46 -0000 We have had a good level of support for this document and no objections, so clearly the WG has consensus to adopt it. Editors, can you please republish the document as draft-secevent-*. Thanks, Yaron On 13/01/17 19:38, Yaron Sheffer wrote: > Dick and I are proposing that the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 > as a > working group document. > > Please respond by Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, we > would appreciate a reason. > > For those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to be > "ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After adoption, the group gets > to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus. > > Thanks, > > Yaron > From nobody Mon Jan 23 12:53:35 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C8B12988C for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:53:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.419 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.419 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u2oH3_XzkHXc for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:53:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05D98129889 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v0NKrURd007842 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 23 Jan 2017 20:53:30 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v0NKrUHu031856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 23 Jan 2017 20:53:30 GMT Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v0NKrSYQ006220; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 20:53:29 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.16] (/174.7.250.104) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:53:28 -0800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4E550360-6266-46ED-B571-F561BACF57AA" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Phil Hunt In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:53:26 -0800 Message-Id: References: <0e708221-8bc3-4fc1-664e-98b08da722b7@gmail.com> To: Yaron Sheffer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] Archived-At: Cc: ID Events Mailing List Subject: Re: [Id-event] WG adoption of draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 20:53:34 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_4E550360-6266-46ED-B571-F561BACF57AA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Yaron, Ok=E2=80=A6. I will republish as: draft-ietf-secevent-token-00 Phil Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Services @independentid www.independentid.com = phil.hunt@oracle.com = > On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Yaron Sheffer = wrote: >=20 > We have had a good level of support for this document and no = objections, so clearly the WG has consensus to adopt it. Editors, can = you please republish the document as draft-secevent-*. >=20 > Thanks, > Yaron >=20 > On 13/01/17 19:38, Yaron Sheffer wrote: >> Dick and I are proposing that the WG adopt = draft-hunt-idevent-token-08 >> as a >> working group document. >>=20 >> Please respond by Jan. 22 with your support or objection. Either way, = we >> would appreciate a reason. >>=20 >> For those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't need to = be >> "ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After adoption, the group = gets >> to decide on the protocol details by rough consensus. >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> Yaron >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event --Apple-Mail=_4E550360-6266-46ED-B571-F561BACF57AA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Yaron,

Ok=E2=80=A6. I will republish as:

draft-ietf-secevent-token-00

Phil

Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud = Services
@independentid
www.independentid.com
phil.hunt@oracle.com






On Jan 23, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

We = have had a good level of support for this document and no objections, so = clearly the WG has consensus to adopt it. Editors, can you please = republish the document as draft-secevent-*.

Thanks,
Yaron

On 13/01/17 19:38, Yaron Sheffer wrote:
Dick and I are proposing = that the WG adopt draft-hunt-idevent-token-08
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hunt-idevent-token/&= gt; as a
working group document.

Please respond by Jan. 22 with your support or objection. = Either way, we
would appreciate a reason.

For those not familiar with IETF procedure, the draft doesn't = need to be
"ready" when adopted, only "good enough". After = adoption, the group gets
to decide on the protocol details = by rough consensus.

Thanks,
   Yaron


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= --Apple-Mail=_4E550360-6266-46ED-B571-F561BACF57AA-- From nobody Mon Jan 23 13:19:31 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: id-event@ietf.org Delivered-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB1F1298B5; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:19:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.40.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148520636546.29562.1195463852324368174.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:19:25 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: id-event@ietf.org Subject: [Id-event] I-D Action: draft-ietf-secevent-token-00.txt X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:19:25 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Security Events of the IETF. Title : Security Event Token (SET) Authors : Phil Hunt William Denniss Morteza Ansari Michael B. Jones Filename : draft-ietf-secevent-token-00.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2017-01-23 Abstract: This specification defines the Security Event Token, which may be distributed via a protocol such as HTTP. The Security Event Token (SET) specification profiles the JSON Web Token (JWT) and may be optionally signed and/or encrypted. A SET describes a statement of fact that may be shared by an event publisher with event subscribers. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-secevent-token/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-secevent-token-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Jan 25 10:15:46 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3FC129AC2 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:15:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-1.156, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JVszoeiVkuoA for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (userp1040.oracle.com [156.151.31.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9930E1298D0 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v0PIFfsQ009726 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:15:42 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v0PIFe8h026306 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:15:41 GMT Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v0PIFeQQ012084 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:15:40 GMT Received: from dhcp-whq-twvpn-2-vpnpool-10-159-164-183.vpn.oracle.com (/10.159.164.183) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:15:40 -0800 From: Phil Hunt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_56555C3A-3C68-4073-87BD-9CC1A653DD37" Message-Id: Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:15:39 -0800 To: ID Events Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] Archived-At: Subject: [Id-event] Breaking up the distribution spec - next steps - terminology X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:15:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_56555C3A-3C68-4073-87BD-9CC1A653DD37 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Now that we=E2=80=99ve adopted the SET token spec, the next step is to = figure out how to handle distribution/delivery of SEC events between = parties. While I had put forward a draft distribution spec, I realized in Seoul = that many people are in very different places on what is needed to = handle event delivery. Before I attempt to rewrite the draft, lets talk terminology and use = cases and get agreement on requirements. Current Terminology: Publisher - An entity that issues and signs a SET token. The audience of = a SET is typically a subscriber. Subscriber - An entity or organization that will receive SET event = tokens on a Feed. Feed - A logical stream of events issued based on some criteria of event = type and or subjects. A feed typically has one or more subscriptions. = In addition to a set of event types that may come in a feed, there is = another dimension: =E2=80=9Cenrolment" the subjects or entities about = which SETs will be issued. A feed may have one or more subscribers. Enrolment* - The set of entities within a feed about which events are = issued. For example, in the RISC case, end users(subjects) are = typically enrolled into a feed when the user invoked a federated = sign-on from an Identity Provider to a relying party. =20 *NOTE: This is *not* a concept in the current distribution draft. Subscription: A subscriber who has registered to receive a feed. A = subscription includes meta attributes like delivery endpoints, = credentials and subscription status/state. Comments on terminology: A. There are many cases where separate Feeds vs. subscriptions are not = needed. RISC and some other specs take a more idealized or streamlined = view of the data model. I think this is ok, but I=E2=80=99m not sure it = applies to all potential uses. For example, I don=E2=80=99t see it as = necessarily true that logouts and RISC events will flow through the same = logical connections (Feeds). =20 B. I chose =E2=80=9Csubscription=E2=80=9D from typical notions of = pub-sub definitions to describe an endpoint that has elected to receive = a feed. Much like a homeowner signs up with a publisher to receive one = or more magazines. The RISC working group has used the term = =E2=80=9Csubscription=E2=80=9D to refer to the notion that a subject is = added to a feed as a subscription. To correct this conflict, I am = proposing the term =E2=80=9Cenrolment=E2=80=9D to describe the notion of = controlling what subjects are part of a feed.=20 Please let me know if you agree with these definitions or would like to = propose changes. I=E2=80=99ll post another email on use-cases for deliverables... Phil Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Services & Standards @independentid www.independentid.com = phil.hunt@oracle.com = --Apple-Mail=_56555C3A-3C68-4073-87BD-9CC1A653DD37 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Now that we=E2=80=99ve adopted the SET token spec, the next = step is to figure out how to handle distribution/delivery of SEC events = between parties.

While= I had put forward a draft distribution spec, I realized in Seoul that = many people are in very different places on what is needed to handle = event delivery.

Before I attempt to rewrite the draft, lets talk terminology = and use cases and get agreement on requirements.

Current Terminology:

Publisher - An entity = that issues and signs a SET token. The audience of a SET is typically a = subscriber.

Subscriber - An entity or organization that will receive SET = event tokens on a Feed.

Feed - A logical stream of events issued based on some = criteria of event type and or subjects. A feed typically has one or more = subscriptions.  In addition to a set of event types that may come = in a feed, there is another dimension:  =E2=80=9Cenrolment" the = subjects or entities about which SETs will be issued.  A feed may = have one or more subscribers.

Enrolment* - The set of entities within = a feed about which events are issued.  For example, in the RISC = case, end users(subjects) are typically enrolled into a feed  when = the user invoked a federated sign-on from an Identity Provider to a = relying party.  
*NOTE: This is *not* a = concept in the current distribution draft.

Subscription:  A subscriber who = has registered to receive a feed. A subscription includes meta = attributes like delivery endpoints, credentials and subscription = status/state.

Comments on terminology:
A. There are = many cases where separate Feeds vs. subscriptions are not needed. RISC = and some other specs take a more idealized or streamlined view of the = data model. I think this is ok, but I=E2=80=99m not sure it applies to = all potential uses.  For example, I don=E2=80=99t see it as = necessarily true that logouts and RISC events will flow through the same = logical connections (Feeds).   

B. I chose =E2=80=9Csubscription=E2=80=9D= from typical notions of pub-sub definitions to describe an endpoint = that has elected to receive a feed. Much like a homeowner signs up with = a publisher to receive one or more magazines. The RISC working group has = used the term =E2=80=9Csubscription=E2=80=9D to refer to the notion that = a subject is added to a feed as a subscription.  To correct this = conflict, I am proposing the term =E2=80=9Cenrolment=E2=80=9D to = describe the notion of controlling what subjects are part of a = feed. 

Please let me know if you agree with these definitions or = would like to propose changes.

I=E2=80=99ll post another email on = use-cases for deliverables...

Phil

Oracle = Corporation, Identity Cloud Services & Standards
@independentid
www.independentid.com
phil.hunt@oracle.com






= --Apple-Mail=_56555C3A-3C68-4073-87BD-9CC1A653DD37-- From nobody Wed Jan 25 10:26:20 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3071129AD4 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:26:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-1.156, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gRuPg4-Svfra for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (userp1040.oracle.com [156.151.31.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 447BD129AC9 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v0PIQFxZ024977 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:26:15 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v0PIQEp6024536 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:26:14 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v0PIQEU6018285 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:26:14 GMT Received: from dhcp-whq-twvpn-2-vpnpool-10-159-164-183.vpn.oracle.com (/10.159.164.183) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:26:13 -0800 From: Phil Hunt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_51586DCC-0FCD-44C0-A88A-401217DA3EB6" Message-Id: Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:26:12 -0800 To: ID Events Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] Archived-At: Subject: [Id-event] Distribution - use cases X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:26:18 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_51586DCC-0FCD-44C0-A88A-401217DA3EB6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 As mentioned in my previous email, here are the use cases I think the = distribution draft should be re-worked to address. =20 Use Cases: 1. How to transfer one or more SETs via HTTPS POST. The Data Transfer = Protocol (the subscriber is the server to the publisher) 2. How to subscribe with a publisher and to interrogate and control a = subscription status. The Control Protocol (the publisher provides the = service to the subscriber). 3. How to adjust the enrolment of a feed. The Enrolment Service (the = publisher provides the service to the subscriber). With regards to 2 & 3, should this be part of the same API? =20 For example, if we re-used SCIM for #2 (as currently proposed), then #3 = would be easily defined by using a =E2=80=9Cmembers=E2=80=9D attribute = on the feed. Enrolment happens by simply adding a new subject value to = the members attribute. =20 OR, we could have a very simple POST / DELETE endpoint where subscribers = POST and DELETE subjects. In this style, what would be expected from a = GET (e.g. return all enrolled subjects)? Should a GET even be possible? = What about PUT etc? My gut reaction is let=E2=80=99s not invent yet = another HTTP protocol and to just re-use SCIM. There are normal = conventions that implementers can use to make their own decisions on = this stuff. For example, in SCIM a service provider doesn=E2=80=99t have = to return all values of a group unless it feels the client is authorized = to receive it. In cases where there are millions of values, it just = does not always make sense. Phil Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Services & Identity Standards @independentid www.independentid.com = phil.hunt@oracle.com = --Apple-Mail=_51586DCC-0FCD-44C0-A88A-401217DA3EB6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
As mentioned in my previous email, here are = the use cases I think the distribution draft should be re-worked to = address.  

Use Cases:

1.  How to transfer one or more SETs via HTTPS POST. =  The Data Transfer Protocol (the subscriber is the server to the = publisher)
2.  How to subscribe with a = publisher and to interrogate and control a subscription status. =  The Control Protocol (the publisher provides the service to the = subscriber).
3.  How to adjust the enrolment = of a feed. The Enrolment Service (the publisher provides the service to = the subscriber).

With regards to 2 & 3, should this be part of the same = API?  

For = example, if we re-used SCIM for #2 (as currently proposed), then #3 = would be easily defined by using a =E2=80=9Cmembers=E2=80=9D attribute = on the feed.  Enrolment happens by simply adding a new subject = value to the members attribute.  

OR, we could have a very simple POST / = DELETE endpoint where subscribers POST and DELETE subjects.  In = this style, what would be expected from a GET (e.g. return all enrolled = subjects)?  Should a GET even be possible? What about PUT etc? =  My gut reaction is let=E2=80=99s not invent yet another HTTP = protocol and to just re-use SCIM.  There are normal conventions = that implementers can use to make their own decisions on this stuff. For = example, in SCIM a service provider doesn=E2=80=99t have to return all = values of a group unless it feels the client is authorized to receive = it.  In cases where there are millions of values, it just does not = always make sense.

Phil

Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud = Services & Identity Standards
@independentid
www.independentid.com
phil.hunt@oracle.com







= --Apple-Mail=_51586DCC-0FCD-44C0-A88A-401217DA3EB6-- From nobody Tue Jan 31 09:21:28 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: id-event@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7520D12948C for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:21:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.418 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.418 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZeUDxwTIHZMS for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE283128AC9 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v0VHLOpl027049 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:21:25 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v0VHLNkp015881 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:21:24 GMT Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v0VHLMoQ023500 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:21:22 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.2] (/174.7.250.104) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:21:22 -0800 From: "Phil Hunt (IDM)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-007D9876-8784-4A18-8553-251B198947BF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:21:21 -0800 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: ID Events Mailing List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14D27) X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Id-event] Distribution - use cases X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:21:27 -0000 --Apple-Mail-007D9876-8784-4A18-8553-251B198947BF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not sure if people have had time to look at this.=20 I am happy to just take a shot at reworking the draft to address the cases b= elow if people are ok.=20 I believe Yaron was also interested in starting to raise any issues with the= WG SET draft. In particular, please let me know of any issues with normativ= e concerns as there is already a dependent spec being implemented (OIDC Back= channel Logout).=20 Thanks! Phil > On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Phil Hunt wrote: >=20 > As mentioned in my previous email, here are the use cases I think the dist= ribution draft should be re-worked to address. =20 >=20 > Use Cases: >=20 > 1. How to transfer one or more SETs via HTTPS POST. The Data Transfer Pr= otocol (the subscriber is the server to the publisher) > 2. How to subscribe with a publisher and to interrogate and control a sub= scription status. The Control Protocol (the publisher provides the service t= o the subscriber). > 3. How to adjust the enrolment of a feed. The Enrolment Service (the publ= isher provides the service to the subscriber). >=20 > With regards to 2 & 3, should this be part of the same API? =20 >=20 > For example, if we re-used SCIM for #2 (as currently proposed), then #3 wo= uld be easily defined by using a =E2=80=9Cmembers=E2=80=9D attribute on the f= eed. Enrolment happens by simply adding a new subject value to the members a= ttribute. =20 >=20 > OR, we could have a very simple POST / DELETE endpoint where subscribers P= OST and DELETE subjects. In this style, what would be expected from a GET (= e.g. return all enrolled subjects)? Should a GET even be possible? What abo= ut PUT etc? My gut reaction is let=E2=80=99s not invent yet another HTTP pr= otocol and to just re-use SCIM. There are normal conventions that implement= ers can use to make their own decisions on this stuff. For example, in SCIM a= service provider doesn=E2=80=99t have to return all values of a group unles= s it feels the client is authorized to receive it. In cases where there are= millions of values, it just does not always make sense. >=20 > Phil >=20 > Oracle Corporation, Identity Cloud Services & Identity Standards > @independentid > www.independentid.com > phil.hunt@oracle.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event --Apple-Mail-007D9876-8784-4A18-8553-251B198947BF Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not sure if people have had time to lo= ok at this. 

I am happy to just take a shot at reworking the draft to a= ddress the cases below if people are ok. 

I believe Yaron was also int= erested in starting to raise any issues with the WG SET draft. In particular= , please let me know of any issues with normative concerns as there is alrea= dy a dependent spec being implemented (OIDC Backchannel Logout). 
=

Than= ks!

Phil

On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com> wrote:
As mentioned in my prev= ious email, here are the use cases I think the distribution draft should be r= e-worked to address.  

Use Cases:

1.  How to transfer one or more SETs via HTTPS POST.  The Data T= ransfer Protocol (the subscriber is the server to the publisher)
2.  How to subscribe with a publisher and to interrogate and c= ontrol a subscription status.  The Control Protocol (the publisher prov= ides the service to the subscriber).
3.  How to ad= just the enrolment of a feed. The Enrolment Service (the publisher provides t= he service to the subscriber).

With regards to 2 & 3, should this be part of the same API?=  

For exampl= e, if we re-used SCIM for #2 (as currently proposed), then #3 would be easil= y defined by using a =E2=80=9Cmembers=E2=80=9D attribute on the feed.  = Enrolment happens by simply adding a new subject value to the members attrib= ute.  

OR, we= could have a very simple POST / DELETE endpoint where subscribers POST and D= ELETE subjects.  In this style, what would be expected from a GET (e.g.= return all enrolled subjects)?  Should a GET even be possible? What ab= out PUT etc?  My gut reaction is let=E2=80=99s not invent yet another H= TTP protocol and to just re-use SCIM.  There are normal conventions tha= t implementers can use to make their own decisions on this stuff. For exampl= e, in SCIM a service provider doesn=E2=80=99t have to return all values of a= group unless it feels the client is authorized to receive it.  In case= s where there are millions of values, it just does not always make sense.

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Phil

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