From owner-idmr@cs.ucl.ac.uk Wed Jul 2 21:28:58 2003 Received: from pan2.cs.ucl.ac.uk (pan2.cs.ucl.ac.uk [128.16.8.208]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id VAA09489 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 21:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pan2.cs.ucl.ac.uk by pan2.cs.ucl.ac.uk via Local Delivery channel id ; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 01:54:57 +0100 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by pan2.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:23:15 +0100 Received: from vscan-a.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with UK SMTP id ; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:23:23 +0100 Received: from dmz1.procket.com ([65.174.124.36]) by vscan-a.ucl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19XqwZ-00003n-91 for idmr@cs.ucl.ac.uk; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 00:23:19 +0100 Received: from miata.procket.com (zeus-d-1.procket.com [65.174.124.60]) by dmz1.procket.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F1523C4C; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchangefe2.na.procket.com (email.na.procket.com [10.1.7.252]) by miata.procket.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h62NN7YB013404; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miata.procket.com ([10.1.1.1]) by exchangefe2.na.procket.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:23:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:23:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Shepherd To: agenda@ietf.org, pim , idmr , magma , routing-discussion , wg-multicast , mboned Cc: Alex Zinin , Bill Fenner , Keyur Patel , Greg Shepherd Subject: BOF Agenda - Multicast Last-Mile Solutions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2003 23:23:07.0552 (UTC) FILETIME=[E50ABA00:01C340F0] X-UCL-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: owner-idmr@cs.ucl.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Multicast Last-Mile Solutions BOF DESCRIPTION: Successful content distribution business plans have been hampered by the all-or-nothing nature of a multicast routed infrastructure. Several drafts have arisen over the past few years to address the last-mile multicast deployment gap, but have all lost momentum for various reasons. Recent efforts on yet another draft have revealed the need to have all affected parties participate in the effort in order to provide a comprehensive yet simple and deployable solution. A content owner which wishes to build a buisness model around multicast distribution is hampered by the current limited scope of multicast deployment. Their only option today is to purchase multicast transit services from their provider of choice which does not ensure the path between their content and their customers is multicast enabled. The administrative control of the multicast topology in this relationship is restricted to the provider and the content customer. The missing step on the path to full multicast deployment will require a solution which allows the content owner the benefits of multicast replication, independent of the radius of the multicast deployment. The purpose of this BOF is to bring together operators, content providers/owners, application and protocol implementors to discuss the problem and worked towards a mutually desired solution. The expected outcome will be an evaluation of interest, a better defined problem statement, directions for any future progress from the BOF participants. AGENDA: 1. Agenda Bashing (all) 2. Problem description (shep - 10min) 3. Discussion of current gaps and future direction (from the floor) WEB REFERNCE: http://www.shepfarm.com/multicast/last-mile RELEVANT PAST WORK: (this list is possibly incomplete - please send updates) http://www.shepfarm.com/multicast/upim/draft-ietf-mboned-auto-multicast-01.txt http://www.shepfarm.com/multicast/upim/draft-finlayson-mboned-autotunneling-00.txt http://www.shepfarm.com/multicast/upim/draft-finlayson-umtp-07.txt http://www.shepfarm.com/multicast/upim/draft-keyur-pim-host-extensions-00.txt http://www.shepfarm.com/multicast/upim/draft-jibiki-iwata-msdp-idmf-00.txt MAILLIST: http://www.shepfarm.com/mailman/listinfo/mtp From owner-idmr@cs.ucl.ac.uk Fri Jul 4 00:11:43 2003 Received: from pan2.cs.ucl.ac.uk (pan2.cs.ucl.ac.uk [128.16.8.208]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id AAA02722 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pan2.cs.ucl.ac.uk by pan2.cs.ucl.ac.uk via Local Delivery channel id ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 04:19:49 +0100 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk by pan2.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 04:19:45 +0100 Received: from vscan-a.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with UK SMTP id ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 04:20:08 +0100 Received: from [211.144.96.27] (helo=RD-06) by vscan-a.ucl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19YH76-0007et-2W for idmr@cs.ucl.ac.uk; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 04:19:56 +0100 From: fenner To: idmr Subject: {Virus?} Re: Application Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:24:00 +0800 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="CSmtpMsgPart123X456_000_00025DF3" Message-Id: X-UCL-MailScanner: Found to be infected Sender: owner-idmr@cs.ucl.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multipart message in MIME format --CSmtpMsgPart123X456_000_00025DF3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed Warning: (your_details.zip). 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