From nobody Mon Aug 7 03:29:48 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5736913201E for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 03:29:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=annevk.nl Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iCTF4zQNdjAH for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 03:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (homie.mail.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AA01131EC3 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 03:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB3634806C for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 03:29:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=annevk.nl; h=mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to: content-type; s=annevk.nl; bh=4nrdU7fAn8QkbuhGRVbhETTpLHE=; b=kP T7FNbASHuSwSH5GlrBjtsqiNjQZi5lHdIGx12nkBegmkc81/fliH9Nsp9Dw7kM3t j5dM9JcE1C0eyedgfttlYJmJMxOfEbhmrFmVuJ8nzGsaRPOfNG0c9js3ICk1l31m 6zlk8PVn4V4dXstalQXnxdDMt2SD24FUrhEuDdOUM= Received: from mail-wm0-f54.google.com (mail-wm0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: annevk@annevk.nl) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3237234806A for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 03:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-f54.google.com with SMTP id t201so3581791wmt.0 for ; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 03:29:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5ipGMaBwScAJvXujyAxVO4EKso446CPXCZV4Zp2507V9vRRM9FT GgfhHLSw9JN7j6J2XeNcIYQIBd3QxA== X-Received: by 10.80.145.132 with SMTP id g4mr443620eda.179.1502101782674; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 03:29:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.190.137 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 03:29:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Anne van Kesteren Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:29:41 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: ietf-message-headers@lists.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-message-headers] X-Content-Type-Options X-BeenThere: ietf-message-headers@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for header fields used in Internet messaging applications." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 10:29:46 -0000 On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > Header field name: X-Content-Type-Options > > Applicable protocol: http > > Status: standard > > Author/Change controller: WHATWG > > Specification document(s): > https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#x-content-type-options-header > > Related information: N/A I forwarded this to IANA ([IANA #971687]) on July 21, but it hasn't been processed yet as far as I can tell. Is that normal? -- https://annevankesteren.nl/ From nobody Mon Aug 7 04:43:52 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51785129ABE for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 04:43:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=isode.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QqanOb5oWrWc for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 04:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waldorf.isode.com (waldorf.isode.com [62.232.206.188]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C94F127ABE for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 04:43:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1502106228; d=isode.com; s=june2016; i=@isode.com; bh=M/yOurWzlrqqdA1LT7R8W8m2BuT2XSXkMlLKNJkW9Dk=; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description; b=sqEHYtpXX7R5ZrCuKSRfZ/p/NBTCA1OaV/553j99mlykFNQn8XDK2x36kM421c8cDmUzHO x9+FM8QboH9QgT7EyyYIZaiTEDOItVjWadJp8B1hNY8H2jjoiLubKNsj8ryodrUVufSL4U ws80dmxzPDC3OLVOhrpzERV/pZ0Hx9g=; Received: from [172.20.1.215] (dhcp-215.isode.net [172.20.1.215]) by waldorf.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPSA id ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:43:48 +0100 To: Anne van Kesteren , ietf-message-headers@ietf.org References: From: Alexey Melnikov Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:43:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-message-headers] X-Content-Type-Options X-BeenThere: ietf-message-headers@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for header fields used in Internet messaging applications." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 11:43:51 -0000 On 07/08/2017 11:29, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: >> Header field name: X-Content-Type-Options >> >> Applicable protocol: http >> >> Status: standard >> >> Author/Change controller: WHATWG >> >> Specification document(s): >> https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#x-content-type-options-header >> >> Related information: N/A > I forwarded this to IANA ([IANA #971687]) on July 21, but it hasn't > been processed yet as far as I can tell. Is that normal? Hi Anne, The registry is Expert Review, so it needs to be reviewed by designated expert (Graham Klyne). So most likely IANA is waiting for him. But I can chase that. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2017 17:00:15 -0000 Header field name: Refresh Applicable protocol: http Status: standard Author/Change controller: WHATWG Specification document(s): https://html.spec.whatwg.org/ Related information: See https://github.com/whatwg/html/commit/7e9f6b6ffe2119f43f909f71773a25a7e8a61ca7 if you're interested in the exact changes to the HTML Standard. -- https://annevankesteren.nl/ From nobody Wed Aug 9 10:58:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85A7132463 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:58:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.4 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aAaoDYAf_JHu for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C6FE1321BF for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([93.217.96.135]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LoEPJ-1d8NME2NLt-00gDia; Wed, 09 Aug 2017 19:58:47 +0200 To: Anne van Kesteren , ietf-message-headers@lists.ietf.org References: From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <1c5ce02a-9312-34e5-35b8-b5e1ba6089d4@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 19:58:47 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:JQ4+P1sIdH803howujzej9Bg2Ynt57dZnaaHM7BB3NEeK46myo8 W6vLmKJLPCVf1DpoS7/bAF+XJi29dXUVBDM6C8iRGd5QOHsA9TVXU0rPIF+LMy7QAWJo7uQ MRYyu3770C592NC5Fk7tlFWwjyjaRNNxK+GAXvHw2KnFKn/q4GO9RFDB00jPazxcYR7pKMM t1Jnyg8XfgNoxNV0YEHmA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:qFBFKB9p4N0=:bf3b6JYC5+MEw3ymQvygJ4 UkoChCRsYlO0UFlZe2vtDW2oWcCHaz56/G/wCcWlX2nPcN5ABcv8bKknBvWoGNX2yiTW1nlSV 4Fg38/jBp2aHEo6oFbEdChCJkNkqvC+406ZI19mzqrpTQpWCrhivgGHFlUlYp/y81qk12M7gF lUKdCD3npVEVJs3o0Rdku5fJndb8Y+aPoJXBTI6fv5D/+JZRUWhl5d6VU5ybgGWT2zOKJNbh+ GZzErSR7wFIha0Jhrvfe//WR1Fg1DcKioTs8Kxw2Nq5x1JyN0tOUh3lBc16tEyy0O6qPPqgX6 1Eje/+UO/Q8F7loKpLUhVIh4WNZX19D7I1T51X4LiPIdkgK8whAPayqVYVw1tJWKMSOPcPei6 ux/txpWhsxqcZeMSnVTgtLtq+MEvSTzSeUzNkaFfzsT9TH13NXNmFb5y6nC8sC8UulHOJMVdl 0Wcxn5jLzYAaPmh/KsrFggbh1TnofbAb7yg/HP8VtfV4+/bi7/pqZYgSbsdESXQFRcQ3EO02n 70Sr7/nnz0GTkuE4XB0qb8QzQTc6Y+qSiod2Gdb3kEFg/nsWjTsvFsMJBbe7O52JP4MQdflkB uh0Qu15xM3kWl+JIYq/v6X8UIyapvrqZOPh6hYHQZNylOlyplMp41SlJMO7N6wXemxbGFIL0D xWUmG/BfwhnPtfCaAyNMZsKmYdZt3qe/qJZBEERGm+LHDeOxoVsGgLEPcpeetMcpcb6yMtelC RiNzvLIu8cBMrN3vZcse9D8V19Kq7hXZC3mzbviZRmM4o2FC4xUkxyjFjesGtYoMXFM75TfMx 2zJrP/adCTYUY8LLg9TNKE+zg+gQ++oV0BMGfwChz7Vrt7i5N4= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP Refresh header X-BeenThere: ietf-message-headers@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for header fields used in Internet messaging applications." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2017 17:58:55 -0000 On 2017-08-09 19:00, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > Header field name: Refresh > > Applicable protocol: http > > Status: standard > > Author/Change controller: WHATWG > > Specification document(s): https://html.spec.whatwg.org/ > > Related information: See > https://github.com/whatwg/html/commit/7e9f6b6ffe2119f43f909f71773a25a7e8a61ca7 > if you're interested in the exact changes to the HTML Standard. It's great that you're doing this, but I think the changes in the spec aren't sufficient at all in order to define the header field. See . 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Reschke" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP Refresh header X-BeenThere: ietf-message-headers@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for header fields used in Internet messaging applications." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2017 18:02:20 -0000 It'd be nice if the header was well-defined, but those aren't = requirements for registration; if it's in use (and it is), it should be = registered. > On 9 Aug 2017, at 10:58 am, Julian Reschke = wrote: >=20 > On 2017-08-09 19:00, Anne van Kesteren wrote: >> Header field name: Refresh >> Applicable protocol: http >> Status: standard >> Author/Change controller: WHATWG >> Specification document(s): https://html.spec.whatwg.org/ >> Related information: See >> = https://github.com/whatwg/html/commit/7e9f6b6ffe2119f43f909f71773a25a7e8a6= 1ca7 >> if you're interested in the exact changes to the HTML Standard. >=20 > It's great that you're doing this, but I think the changes in the spec = aren't sufficient at all in order to define the header field. >=20 > See = . >=20 > Best regards, Julian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-message-headers mailing list > Ietf-message-headers@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-message-headers -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ From nobody Wed Aug 9 11:29:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BB3132448 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:29:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jtn9ANSiq6x1 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B59C61323B4 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([93.217.96.135]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MePYV-1dzVQ71qN5-00Q8Cw; Wed, 09 Aug 2017 20:28:56 +0200 To: Mark Nottingham Cc: Anne van Kesteren , ietf-message-headers@lists.ietf.org References: <1c5ce02a-9312-34e5-35b8-b5e1ba6089d4@gmx.de> <0C07550D-D9AD-4095-9A58-C027D8B49A17@mnot.net> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 20:28:56 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0C07550D-D9AD-4095-9A58-C027D8B49A17@mnot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:5vT4dGA/1pga794yFD7XtGURahdmq/JQzjN3I4UqMRasuLTf3ej 3yb/rc0/CkigTAAInaFJ4+yKtBxhalH/WSfgT8ZE+GoAD4cQe2y06slhcRP8j6YlHEnB5OV HuBXX2Rw8ferpjhidXwDZXrbtOBE/UafI+M0JmShhDouriDC5f/2Pjc2bOe5kjHnykLL7rE u6S1cydZjUbnN4KvmpGMA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:A26dd4mfoE8=:ApAsfTo/ZVGwC4vB+pUiSB fu6Lo4Qmh8g73mzJOcc3DseAoq1QOwQ5C4ASSN+PFPGooqP3c9GEJVoMoxz66sVnEzmFjRgbd KK9pbIwf2d9YfPHZRqPnH6qlW2KWSSM4Gqmx5l6o547SOWtZZWJTVV5BSaJADX5s+/LQ/jyY8 yTonQomo/npyxKjpkZ55zLrqT5wGz5hlJWYWeVx6Vo0dnbAeVXrX2dkGpUTET3QJT2BcP/2qG 0/VbuG08yUEB1Rw4vO+ix8bk/Yznz28MRT3v+XHLClQaLFq4Wg8IjxQv06HeZ7wqsTxhDD/Qg hNqqlTrVNkM7yHQMucE7bWiiZ83TRahgSJPaDtXRGBVPBBJp9J0r3e8cBiTBA2j06t2yXySNy qmkkxsnRS4SaQ6avLc1+fe2f5Hg8mml/HZAsADoZ/qNiPABNkwaMGRCSDk0BtbJLUxUtdtX1o waWHvYlT4uHdoA5kWmQfYbYZy4aGeknPmJbD4u/Qlw5Jyt+ZUWrR7qXKa6jJNXqtLKbZALxsW x2C6jDIlP7Sae05f1SksIcsbzw2lIoWucrJDzVPAlQulc7bFxKlPtOnfec/CCHFLtB3u4ppPE zRSo4wpmFJSlhnJPrJp7mKeLAaVvJselphzd74g9twp0nhG4WRfG7O62jmbPGAzDXtqUPChg2 G3Ih5OzvImJwQYd530KKEImTxqpPkVsAIE+B0WzL3d8TIum7xsP9KSfdslfZaQ+rY8KWigMHp cghUotox0/rcXHRBcpKuq+ogvr1CPhK8jHy7hfawM8mDa02VfBuzSikGux6SnpAm/o99UOsM/ ro77Wpk3ADdDwAL0L60yB2P/TEx+guobf303u64fxitPzhB6Yo= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP Refresh header X-BeenThere: ietf-message-headers@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for header fields used in Internet messaging applications." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2017 18:29:05 -0000 On 2017-08-09 20:02, Mark Nottingham wrote: > It'd be nice if the header was well-defined, but those aren't requirements for registration; if it's in use (and it is), it should be registered. > ... That is true, but the registration actually should reference something that specifies the HTTP header field. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 08:02:52 -0000 On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: > That is true, but the registration actually should reference something that > specifies the HTTP header field. Could you be more specific? -- https://annevankesteren.nl/ From nobody Thu Aug 10 01:29:03 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0604132647 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 01:29:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q87UIfJ5Nd0l for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 01:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B15413264F for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 01:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.34] ([217.91.35.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MhiTL-1e2b931hmF-00MtpS; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:28:54 +0200 To: Anne van Kesteren Cc: ietf-message-headers@lists.ietf.org References: <1c5ce02a-9312-34e5-35b8-b5e1ba6089d4@gmx.de> <0C07550D-D9AD-4095-9A58-C027D8B49A17@mnot.net> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:28:54 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:lt0k0QCH+OHhJ2lbijdnaVTR5Cc51ENYa2fvW2Vlwm/IegfKKwz Vkp4fszAibfQyuGR4ZvOg5ztqfq9rbjnKLkndmDQFrFwKdDCgnjNmRcLTatHiPAhTyiMuZ+ lCMWFHF8RnO3MG1voRGbJRKuAAo8Y5QNGFqVOW2Be9ZArAfWKwbrBCxBWVnmP8vY01K1Nat baKuNAaexDgN2K/7/YhiA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:FihovUlgpX4=:mzdAPkOaEXjeMMu/g+J0YP TZ92EeMhd/hOu7ZT6l6mP2EJGHheQoU9N+1tuXlTJtZYz5fRuXGzeisMGuwxd79JXdj01YjXq gGsOrabITfuvHKquXbFvrxIvNDe0Xp9FRC+r0v04GnJ+TLTbsxJQOfLEwexkmm+Vg0aqEzT78 wLOUk0D9Ql+WYSuaxms0N1/M2gJ8nxaPwIGlbCenCi4pN1qnoWjSI6KviBCWafV48ie4vgL7u DL/pcUuv/IsZ/3+zZRVUoxIo34DfRgoUe9Ga376LdNlXEG6QBpSmaXfAc9TeEv85uzikEL4s5 z6zsog77CfZKIxxCaAxiIVU7GleAmONY6UgASOuqmYZ4d4LrUlMgIRFyAYDjxxTgpaGIVaq2D FMnaV8WZUG/LVUIu3IDS81LoOhY/r6XvC/OAnRUFM3YTwLcrCB7pAHJX8t0Vav0967XHAfvXt LfAONHFSHz7pGWAwcDQP3OlbCi074dCnN2egbm4SCS5367dyI+KBdENQAAJX23ccfMfEVHrEf ffcelz61eGKlq4hjjtglv+h4+IMg9M50lnsmJ/LuH5qJH6ff0dKrRDeJ79v0/PLmeRmPG3QFe xMBXlcEb14BxtQCCp3AKygJSqkOYa1bV4RyklusO2i5VjqpIaD7SRzLdZ0+acwPsDoqXqvyUd Fd90o3VBHeI4F3EGIH4EGlaP6lD+L6sp8TnwzEaEUNx8S/168Y6f5iRXrzuxcHQn08EL4ISj3 ilMNleUmtCWjzdduAQmRTgvyWNExZfuxCQu0dvUZMa/xSjKH6qL0CSNtGxeIO9C1Qd6tcgf0i 4hLOdUFMGPqPfKs8nC04A3eZPdL5gpP4YleNflacF7QYbM4rg0= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP Refresh header X-BeenThere: ietf-message-headers@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for header fields used in Internet messaging applications." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 08:29:03 -0000 On 2017-08-10 10:02, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >> That is true, but the registration actually should reference something that >> specifies the HTTP header field. > > Could you be more specific? a) Add a subsection that defines the actual header field, and reference it in the template. b) Add an ABNF. c) Have a look at the list of considerations - most should be simple to answer. I'll give it a try if you want me to. Best regards, Julian From nobody Thu Aug 10 02:43:18 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577AE132076 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 02:43:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.519 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.519 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=annevk.nl Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ms14i0AMIGhk for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 02:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (homie.mail.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 447A2127869 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 02:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B018057806C for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 02:43:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=annevk.nl; h=mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc: content-type; s=annevk.nl; bh=sVgEIL/bx4UxoJHHUBph4EykNCY=; b=Ac 2MpjUOCZIfId3BiO9/nygepHIAX1M0TJ5hZ7iWKdUWJnV5eSgDO0W3pzIBFVB+jA gTwUmWapE2sOPHBtvnZoMyW/woXhBlZRyOij0sJQK3yE7jEF9lv338mAr42kgPE/ cl99mHhSqrLPLG6QlbDO9uV9hGLn6st36fRgfaHBs= Received: from mail-wm0-f45.google.com (mail-wm0-f45.google.com [74.125.82.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: annevk@annevk.nl) by homiemail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 84CE5578071 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 02:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-f45.google.com with SMTP id i66so17544614wmg.0 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 02:43:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5gqUk0BiaS6+YcbxHz5QUc5JOdhg2nFrm/1o3hUWKgZeDscGvKY ESCxYvMJRwhR/wGky4yEylopovsSXg== X-Received: by 10.80.213.138 with SMTP id v10mr11382048edi.238.1502358194137; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 02:43:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.190.137 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 02:43:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1c5ce02a-9312-34e5-35b8-b5e1ba6089d4@gmx.de> <0C07550D-D9AD-4095-9A58-C027D8B49A17@mnot.net> From: Anne van Kesteren Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:43:13 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Julian Reschke Cc: ietf-message-headers@lists.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP Refresh header X-BeenThere: ietf-message-headers@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for header fields used in Internet messaging applications." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 09:43:17 -0000 On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2017-08-10 10:02, Anne van Kesteren wrote: >> Could you be more specific? > > a) Add a subsection that defines the actual header field, and reference it > in the template. > > b) Add an ABNF. > > c) Have a look at the list of considerations - most should be simple to > answer. > > I'll give it a try if you want me to. Sounds great. I'm not sure an ABNF is a good idea here, but the other things are probably worthwhile. -- https://annevankesteren.nl/ From nobody Thu Aug 10 03:41:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505B1132692 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:41:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.219 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.219 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LkEexbYywRXl for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay15.mail.ox.ac.uk (relay15.mail.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DD341288B8 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp6.mail.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.206]) by relay15.mail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dfktw-0004uX-nP; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:41:16 +0100 Received: from [213.205.252.147] (helo=sasharissa.local) by smtp6.mail.ox.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1dfktt-0009nP-Ka; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:41:15 +0100 Message-ID: <598C3840.60600@ninebynine.org> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:41:04 +0100 From: Graham Klyne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anne van Kesteren , Julian Reschke CC: ietf-message-headers@ietf.org References: <1c5ce02a-9312-34e5-35b8-b5e1ba6089d4@gmx.de> <0C07550D-D9AD-4095-9A58-C027D8B49A17@mnot.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Oxford-Username: zool0635 X-Oxmail-Spam-Status: score=0.0 tests=none X-Oxmail-Spam-Level: / Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP Refresh header X-BeenThere: ietf-message-headers@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for header fields used in Internet messaging applications." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:41:21 -0000 On 10/08/2017 09:02, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >> That is true, but the registration actually should reference something that >> specifies the HTTP header field. > > Could you be more specific? > FYI, the requirement for permanent registration per https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3864#section-2.1 includes "Specification required", which is defined as: [[ Specification Required - Values and their meaning must be documented in an RFC or other permanent and readily available reference, in sufficient detail so that interoperability between independent implementations is possible. ]] -- https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2434#section-2 #g -- From nobody Thu Aug 10 03:43:29 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-message-headers@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D356132692 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:43:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.519 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.519 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=annevk.nl Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BNndRtURbj95 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (homie.mail.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA2D51288B8 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FFC704074 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:43:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=annevk.nl; h=mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc: content-type; s=annevk.nl; bh=QKFeQ0gIlZaNl3oGKrsYFjm+2ec=; b=GW OMxjGqTMqJ9SLvBixMMZwmJ21RFMrNtfuai8zasgE50fOUI4d3pole9gXF/H3B6k pHjCPIbPfQ1NYeEuJJ/egoJMyyK4J3fDQbg9ckXc27109LZdeNj/yRDNoAaOgvYp HbUIr9JP9ub6GYB5BK1gOSjluxByh1CVVfDgMJttk= Received: from mail-wm0-f50.google.com (mail-wm0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: annevk@annevk.nl) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31A3C70406F for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-f50.google.com with SMTP id f15so18785018wmg.1 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:43:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5i9Pn6MhL9juMvO8MHb3B0B8CqULf06mtMzDWPE2abVgnz/PIix 226Omqnz7zaCkTjPQfEYzuoKpY7ISQ== X-Received: by 10.80.168.197 with SMTP id k63mr11178910edc.203.1502361804790; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:43:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.190.137 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:43:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <598C3840.60600@ninebynine.org> References: <1c5ce02a-9312-34e5-35b8-b5e1ba6089d4@gmx.de> <0C07550D-D9AD-4095-9A58-C027D8B49A17@mnot.net> <598C3840.60600@ninebynine.org> From: Anne van Kesteren Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 12:43:24 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Graham Klyne Cc: Julian Reschke , ietf-message-headers@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-message-headers] HTTP Refresh header X-BeenThere: ietf-message-headers@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for header fields used in Internet messaging applications." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:43:28 -0000 On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Graham Klyne wrote: > FYI, the requirement for permanent registration per > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3864#section-2.1 includes "Specification > required", which is defined as: > > [[ > Specification Required - Values and their meaning must be > documented in an RFC or other permanent and readily available > reference, in sufficient detail so that interoperability > between independent implementations is possible. > ]] > -- https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2434#section-2 Well, that part is definitely covered. So if that's all there's no real problem. -- https://annevankesteren.nl/