The first commercial eai system was launched in A= pril=20 26, 2013. CNNIC participated in this event.

chinese version:

http://www.ico= remail.cn/about_trends_info_359.html=20

google translated version:

http://translate.google.com.hk/translate?hl=3Dzh-CN&sl=3Dzh-CN&= amp;tl=3Den&u=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.icoremail.cn%2Fabout_trends_info_359.= html=20

which said " From the=20 release of a mail system, to achieve domestic first overseas postal servic= e, to=20 the world's first successful development of Chinese e-mail system, accordi= ng to=20 customer demand profit world constantly creating mail system's=20 history. " on the last four paragraph.

Jiankang Yao

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CTRY:US; IPV:CAL; IPV:NLI; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(189002)(199002)(74876001)(6806003)(76482001)(51856001)(44976003)(49866001)(54356001)(46102001)(76176001)(31966008)(23726002)(76576001)(56776001)(74366001)(16676001)(81342001)(20776003)(74662001)(59766001)(74502001)(47976001)(81542001)(74316001)(4396001)(47446002)(50986001)(77982001)(46406003)(47736001)(56816002)(79102001)(15202345002)(65816001)(47776003)(63696002)(33646001)(50466002)(512914005)(80022001)(74706001)(54316002)(69226001)(53806001)(16234385002)(966525003)(24736002)(3826001); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2FFO11HUB005; H:TK5EX14HUBC106.redmond.corp.microsoft.com; RD:InfoDomainNonexistent; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.onmicrosoft.com X-Forefront-PRVS: 0860FE717F Subject: Re: [EAI] The first commercial eai products were released in China X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI $Email Address Internationalization$" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 19:15:23 -0000 I had trouble with the translation - do you know how they're using EAI? =20 -Shawn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 17:21:13 +0800 From: "Jiankang Yao" To: ima Subject: [EAI] The first commercial eai products were released in China Message-ID: <2013052817211016370920@cnnic.cn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"gb2312" =20 The first commercial eai system was launched in April 26, 2013. CNNIC parti= cipated in this event. chinese version: http://www.icoremail.cn/about_trends_info_359.html=20 google translated version: http://translate.google.com.hk/translate?hl=3Dzh-CN&sl=3Dzh-CN&tl=3Den&u=3D= http%3A%2F%2Fwww.icoremail.cn%2Fabout_trends_info_359.html=20 which said " From the release of a mail system, to achieve domestic first o= verseas postal service, to the world's first successful development of Chin= ese e-mail system, according to customer demand profit world constantly cre= ating mail system's history. " on the last four paragraph. =20 Jiankang Yao From yaojk@cnnic.cn Tue May 28 18:26:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E3B21F86F0 for ; Tue, 28 May 2013 18:26:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -96.195 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.195 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.499, BAYES_50=0.001, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O2TiCLI5A6NG for ; Tue, 28 May 2013 18:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cnnic.cn (unknown [218.241.105.202]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B32A721F86D8 for ; Tue, 28 May 2013 18:25:56 -0700 (PDT) X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: yaojk@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown127.0.0.1 (HELO healthyao-think) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; Wed, 29 May 2013 09:25:48 +0800 Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 09:25:46 +0800 From: "Jiankang Yao" To: "Shawn Steele" , ima References: X-Priority: 3 X-Has-Attach: no X-Mailer: Foxmail 7.0.1.92[cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2013052909254397338338@cnnic.cn> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_001_NextPart171451241000_=----" Subject: Re: [EAI] The first commercial eai products were released in China X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: yaojk List-Id: "EAI $Email Address Internationalization$" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 01:26:02 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_001_NextPart171451241000_=---- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 DQoNCmNvcmVtYWlsJ3MgbmV3IHZlcnNpb24gb2YgZW1haWwgc3lzdGVtIChDb3JlbWFpbCBYVCBW My4wKSBzdXBwb3J0cyBFQUkgUkZDIHN1Y2ggYXMgcmZjNjUzMS82NTMyLg0KdGhlIGNvcmVtYWls IHN5c3RlbSBoYXMgbW9yZSB0aGFuIDYwMCwwMDAsMDAwIHVzZXJzLiBJZiBhbGwgY29yZW1haWwg c3lzdGVtcyBhcmUgdXBncmFkZWQgdG8gQ29yZW1haWwgWFQgVjMuMCBpbiB0aGUgZnV0dXJlLCB0 aGVyZSB3aWxsICBoYXZlIHBvdGVudGlhbCA2MDAsMDAwLDAwMCBFQUkgdXNlcnMuDQoNCg0KDQoN CkppYW5rYW5nIFlhbw0KDQpGcm9tOiBTaGF3biBTdGVlbGUNCkRhdGU6IDIwMTMtMDUtMjkgMDM6 MTQNClRvOiBpbWFAaWV0Zi5vcmcNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbRUFJXSBUaGUgZmlyc3QgY29tbWVy Y2lhbCBlYWkgcHJvZHVjdHMgd2VyZSByZWxlYXNlZCBpbiBDaGluYQ0KSSBoYWQgdHJvdWJsZSB3 aXRoIHRoZSB0cmFuc2xhdGlvbiAtIGRvIHlvdSBrbm93IGhvdyB0aGV5J3JlIHVzaW5nIEVBST8g IA0KDQotU2hhd24NCg0KLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KRGF0ZTogVHVlLCAyOCBNYXkgMjAxMyAxNzoy MToxMyArMDgwMA0KRnJvbTogIkppYW5rYW5nIFlhbyIgPHlhb2prQGNubmljLmNuPg0KVG86IGlt YSA8aW1hQGlldGYub3JnPg0KU3ViamVjdDogW0VBSV0gVGhlIGZpcnN0IGNvbW1lcmNpYWwgZWFp IHByb2R1Y3RzIHdlcmUgcmVsZWFzZWQgaW4NCkNoaW5hDQpNZXNzYWdlLUlEOiA8MjAxMzA1Mjgx NzIxMTAxNjM3MDkyMEBjbm5pYy5jbj4NCkNvbnRlbnQtVHlwZTogdGV4dC9wbGFpbjsgY2hhcnNl dD0iZ2IyMzEyIg0KDQoNCg0KVGhlIGZpcnN0IGNvbW1lcmNpYWwgZWFpIHN5c3RlbSB3YXMgbGF1 bmNoZWQgaW4gQXByaWwgMjYsIDIwMTMuIENOTklDIHBhcnRpY2lwYXRlZCBpbiB0aGlzIGV2ZW50 Lg0KDQpjaGluZXNlIHZlcnNpb246DQoNCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuaWNvcmVtYWlsLmNuL2Fib3V0X3Ry ZW5kc19pbmZvXzM1OS5odG1sIA0KDQpnb29nbGUgdHJhbnNsYXRlZCB2ZXJzaW9uOg0KDQpodHRw Oi8vdHJhbnNsYXRlLmdvb2dsZS5jb20uaGsvdHJhbnNsYXRlP2hsPXpoLUNOJnNsPXpoLUNOJnRs PWVuJnU9aHR0cCUzQSUyRiUyRnd3dy5pY29yZW1haWwuY24lMkZhYm91dF90cmVuZHNfaW5mb18z NTkuaHRtbCANCg0Kd2hpY2ggc2FpZCAiIEZyb20gdGhlIHJlbGVhc2Ugb2YgYSBtYWlsIHN5c3Rl bSwgdG8gYWNoaWV2ZSBkb21lc3RpYyBmaXJzdCBvdmVyc2VhcyBwb3N0YWwgc2VydmljZSwgdG8g dGhlIHdvcmxkJ3MgZmlyc3Qgc3VjY2Vzc2Z1bCBkZXZlbG9wbWVudCBvZiBDaGluZXNlIGUtbWFp bCBzeXN0ZW0sIGFjY29yZGluZyB0byBjdXN0b21lciBkZW1hbmQgcHJvZml0IHdvcmxkIGNvbnN0 YW50bHkgY3JlYXRpbmcgbWFpbCBzeXN0ZW0ncyBoaXN0b3J5LiAiICBvbiB0aGUgbGFzdCBmb3Vy IHBhcmFncmFwaC4gIA0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCkppYW5rYW5nIFlhbw0KDQoNCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fDQpJTUEgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0DQpJTUFA aWV0Zi5vcmcNCmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vaW1h ------=_001_NextPart171451241000_=---- Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

coremail's new version of email system= (Coremail XT V3.0) supports EAI RFC su= ch as=20 rfc6531/6532.

the coremail system has more than 600,= 000,000=20 users. If all coremail systems are upgraded to Coremail XT V3.0 in the future, there will <= FONT=20 color=3D#000000> have potential 600,000,000 EAI users.

Jiankang Yao

From: Shawn= =20 Steele

Date: 2013-05-29 03:14

To: ima@ietf.org

Subject: Re: [EAI] The first commercial eai products were= =20 released in China

I had trouble with the translation -&nb= sp;do you know how they're using EAI? &= nbsp;

-Shawn

---------------------------------------------------------------------= -

Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 17:21:13 +0800

From: "Jiankang Yao" <yaojk@cnnic.cn>

To: ima <ima@ietf.org>

Subject: [EAI] The first commercial eai = ;products were released in

China

Message-ID: <2013052817211016370920@cnnic.cn>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"gb2312"

The first commercial eai system was lau= nched in April 26, 2013. CNNIC participated&= nbsp;in this event.

chinese version:

http://www.icoremail.cn/about_trends_info_359.html

google translated version:

http://translate.google.com.hk/translate?hl=3Dzh-CN&sl=3Dzh-CN&am= p;tl=3Den&u=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.icoremail.cn%2Fabout_trends_info_359.ht= ml

which said " From the release of a= mail system, to achieve domestic first = ;overseas postal service, to the world's fir= st successful development of Chinese e-mail = system, according to customer demand profit = world constantly creating mail system's history.&= nbsp;" on the last four paragraph. &nb= sp;

Jiankang Yao

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------=_001_NextPart171451241000_=------ From klensin@jck.com Wed May 29 08:45:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0942721F949A for ; Wed, 29 May 2013 08:45:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ggbK+PYx54DG for ; Wed, 29 May 2013 08:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsa2.jck.com (ns.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E553121F946F for ; Wed, 29 May 2013 08:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.252.137.115] (helo=JcK-HP8200.jck.com) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UhiYo-0002OE-Px; Wed, 29 May 2013 11:45:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 11:45:02 -0400 From: John C Klensin To: yaojk , Shawn Steele , ima Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2013052909254397338338@cnnic.cn> References: <2013052909254397338338@cnnic.cn> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [EAI] The first commercial eai products were released in China X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI $Email Address Internationalization$" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 15:45:26 -0000 --On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 09:25 +0800 Jiankang Yao wrote: > coremail's new version of email system (Coremail XT V3.0) > supports EAI RFC such as rfc6531/6532. the coremail system has > more than 600,000,000 users. If all coremail systems are > upgraded to Coremail XT V3.0 in the future, there will have > potential 600,000,000 EAI users. This is great and 600M EAI users would certainly be impressive. Two questions, mostly out of curiosity: (1) 6531/6532 are mostly about the in-transit and between-hosts environments. Does this new version of Coremail also provide reasonable user interface support? If so, are those UI's Chinese-only or adapted for other scripts and languages as well? Do the Chinese UIs preserve the ASCII header field names between systems but show them in Chinese to the user in the UI? (2) What is the state of POP/IMAP support and, if POP and IMAP are supported as in RFCs 6855 and 6856, what is being done about legacy clients? This is an impressive step forward regardless of the answers to those two questions, but I'd like to better understand where we stand on the many dimensions of the i18n email issues. best regards, john