From nobody Mon Jun 2 18:07:19 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFDB1A0009 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2014 18:07:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qVjVwTX_KyUS for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2014 18:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1lp0140.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00F511A0004 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2014 18:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BY2PR03MB491.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.141.142.21) by BY2PR03MB491.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.141.142.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.949.11; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 01:07:05 +0000 Received: from BY2PR03MB491.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.142.21]) by BY2PR03MB491.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.142.21]) with mapi id 15.00.0949.001; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 01:07:05 +0000 From: Shawn Steele To: "ima@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Test implementations? 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Qt/4.8.4; X11; Linux; Ubuntu 13.10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0562133ff73643b4a613c66ee81a8a05@BY2PR03MB491.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> References: <0562133ff73643b4a613c66ee81a8a05@BY2PR03MB491.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ima/CZqYkg2iWxf4BKmpZ0cKesVq_NY Subject: Re: [EAI] Test implementations? X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 05:53:40 -0000 On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:07:04 AM CEST, Shawn Steele wrote: > Are there any EAI test servers/accounts provided by anyone that > could be used for interoperability testing? I can provide SMTP and IMAP. What do you want? Arnt From nobody Thu Jun 26 18:42:36 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F001B30CA for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 18:42:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.15 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.15 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ICzBrtKecBpT for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 18:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp.cnnic.cn [218.241.118.7]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 16FB31B3074 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 18:42:31 -0700 (PDT) X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: yaojk@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown127.0.0.1 (HELO healthyao-think) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:42:29 +0800 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:42:29 +0800 From: "Jiankang Yao" To: ima X-Priority: 3 X-Has-Attach: no X-Mailer: Foxmail 7.0.1.92[cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2014062709422273910669@cnnic.cn> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_001_NextPart808681118131_=----" Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ima/XS-3o8eb4_hHRW-qSidez18yUPk Subject: [EAI] Fw: [vip] Email Address Internationalization (EAI) and Gmail X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: yaojk List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 01:42:34 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_001_NextPart808681118131_=---- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 DQpJcyBpdCBhIGJpZyBuZXdzIGZvciBFQUkgZGVwbG95bWVudD8gDQoNCkNhbiBzb21lb25lIGlu IHRoZSBsaXN0IGNvbmZpcm0gaXQ/DQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KSmlhbmthbmcgWWFvDQoNCkZyb206IEZh aGQgQmF0YXluZWgNCkRhdGU6IDIwMTQtMDYtMjcgMDA6MDgNClRvOiBURi1BSUROICh0Zi1haWRu QG1lc3dnLm9yZyk7IExHUiBNYWlsaW5nIExpc3Q7IFZhcmlhbnQgSUROIFByb2plY3QgKHZpcEBp Y2Fubi5vcmcpDQpTdWJqZWN0OiBbdmlwXSBFbWFpbCBBZGRyZXNzIEludGVybmF0aW9uYWxpemF0 aW9uIChFQUkpIGFuZCBHbWFpbA0KRnJpZW5kcyBhbmQgQ29sbGVhZ3VlcywNCiANCkR1cmluZyB0 aGUgUHVibGljIEZvcnVtIGF0IElDQU5OIDUwIGluIExvbmRvbiwgSm9yZHluIEJ1Y2hhbmFuIGZy b20gR29vZ2xlIGNvbmZpcm1lZCB0aGF0IEdtYWlsIHdpbGwgc3VwcG9ydCBFQUkgb24gdGhlaXIg cGxhdGZvcm0gYnkgdGhlIGVuZCBvZiB0aGlzIG1vbnRoLg0KIA0Koa0gYnkgdGhlIGVuZCBvZiB0 aGlzIG1vbnRoIGdtYWlsIGlzIGdvaW5nIHRvIGJlIHRoZSBmaXJzdCBtYWpvciBtYWlsIHBsYXRm b3JtIHdpdGggZnVsbCBFQUkgc3VwcG9ydCwgc28geW91J2xsIGJlIGFibGUgdG8gZW1haWwgYmFj ayBhbmQgZm9ydGggd2l0aCBnbWFpbCB1c2VycyBhdCBsZWFzdCChrQ0KIA0KWW91IGNhbiBmaW5k IHRoZSBzY3JpYmUgYXQgaHR0cDovL3d3dy5zdHJlYW10ZXh0Lm5ldC9wbGF5ZXIvY2FydHRyYW5z Y3JpcHQ/ZXZlbnQ9U0FORFJJTkdIQU0tMjZKdW4yMDE0Lg0KIA0KQSBnb29kIHN0ZXAgZm9yd2Fy ZCBmb3IgVW5pdmVyc2FsIEFjY2VwdGFuY2Ugb2YgSUROcy4NCiANClRoYW5rIHlvdSwNCiANCkZh aGQgQmF0YXluZWgNCklDQU5O ------=_001_NextPart808681118131_=---- Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= Is=20 it a big news for EAI deployment? 

Can someone in th= e list=20 confirm it?

Jiankang Yao
 
Date: 2014-06-27 00:08
To: TF-AIDN=20 (tf-aidn@meswg.org); LGR Mailing List= ; Variant IDN Project (vip@icann.org)
Subject: [vip] Email Address Internationalization (EAI) a= nd=20 Gmail

Friends and=20 Colleagues,

 

During the Public Forum= at ICANN=20 50 in London, Jordyn Buchanan from Google confirmed that Gmail will= =20 support EAI on their platform by the end of this month.

 

=A1=AD by the end of this month gmail is going to be = the first=20 major mail platform with full EAI support, so you'll be able to email back= and=20 forth with gmail users at least =A1=AD

 

You can find the scribe= at http://www.streamtext.net/player/carttranscript?event=3DSANDR= INGHAM-26Jun2014.

 

A good step forward for= Universal=20 Acceptance of IDNs.

 

Thank you,

 

Fahd Batayneh

ICANN

------=_001_NextPart808681118131_=------ From nobody Fri Jun 27 13:47:25 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559B61A0135 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:47:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.853 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.853 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SeTTPNZNHZ8X for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101471A0126 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 20439180201; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:45:39 -0700 (PDT) To: presnick@qti.qualcomm.com, chris.newman@oracle.com, shenshuo@cnnic.cn, barryleiba@computer.org, presnick@qti.qualcomm.com, john-ietf@jck.com, jyee@afilias.info X-PHP-Originating-Script: 6000:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20140627204539.20439180201@rfc-editor.org> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ima/o1hye8BSoy5zSh__z6v0iqY2hEU Cc: ima@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [EAI] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6855 (4029) X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 20:47:24 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6855, "IMAP Support for UTF-8". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6855&eid=4029 -------------------------------------- Type: Technical Reported by: Chris Newman Section: 3 Original Text ------------- Once an IMAP client has enabled UTF-8 support with the "ENABLE UTF8=ACCEPT" command, it MUST NOT issue a "SEARCH" command that contains a charset specification. If an IMAP server receives such a "SEARCH" command in that situation, it SHOULD reject the command with a "BAD" response (due to the conflicting charset labels). Corrected Text -------------- Once an IMAP client has enabled UTF-8 support with the "ENABLE UTF8=ACCEPT" command, it MUST NOT issue a "SEARCH" command that contains a charset specification. If an IMAP server receives such a "SEARCH" command in that situation, it SHOULD reject the command with a "BAD" response (due to the conflicting charset labels). This also applies to any IMAP command or extension that includes a charset label and associated strings in the command arguments. Such extensions presently include SORT, THREAD and MULTISEARCH. Notes ----- This is a straightforward extrapolation of the existing text, but a literal reading of the existing text is silent about how to deal with this situation. Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC6855 (draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-12) -------------------------------------- Title : IMAP Support for UTF-8 Publication Date : March 2013 Author(s) : P. Resnick, Ed., C. Newman, Ed., S. Shen, Ed. Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Email Address Internationalization Area : Applications Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Fri Jun 27 15:11:45 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1AB1A01FF for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:11:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.278 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.278 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ALc170anT0Ib for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-x235.google.com (mail-lb0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 135351A01F9 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id p9so4337842lbv.26 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:11:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rxZX08sbHwZDmG90M1MCeWIMdoYjdhid6LX3PMwHEeA=; b=cT8zw1hr9eO45qrUgZemNGbx8WX82Sl1q2VbVch9bMQrPJb7WXbrp6Xy8NJIBS8Qtg wsUuM8DXgHaPJFr2MzLFOuoMy9kBv86ZYencKBtmBmCSFit0FrlmLOFqk9ktHYo01WAr cFJC6KV7qhKg/udp/gn631O1Sr+Km00ECH3LAUuxKgBVTOfFqqLrWVRTvIRFnuBxvWoZ hZBCNFZhXjd8aqvkW/RtNmbcepPmk1A2vBkcsHpmWReCypDFHa+pcbnhHfyqP8ntDckQ RLnvLNbjQLtvieyWVmb/bVbo1BVn5md84W9EjkrrC7iV983Pq3cBZTHhrQ3GtTilnPTs +xdQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.205.135 with SMTP id lg7mr16996597lbc.52.1403907084112; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Sender: barryleiba@gmail.com Received: by 10.152.104.80 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:11:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140627204539.20439180201@rfc-editor.org> References: <20140627204539.20439180201@rfc-editor.org> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:11:24 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fGTzxSg46W7h-IjNknElQy6ArDc Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: RFC Errata System Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ima/9e7JF-MZPtBedLutrASkuMw0vIs Cc: Pete Resnick , "ima@ietf.org" , John Klensin Subject: Re: [EAI] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6855 (4029) X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 22:11:42 -0000 This could be thought of as beyond the scope of errata, but I actually think it *is* within scope and I will mark it Verified early next week if no one objects. This absolutely is something that we would have fixed in the original text if we'd thought of it. Thanks for catching it now, Chris. Barry On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 4:45 PM, RFC Errata System wrote: > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6855, > "IMAP Support for UTF-8". > > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6855&eid=4029 > > -------------------------------------- > Type: Technical > Reported by: Chris Newman > > Section: 3 > > Original Text > ------------- > Once an IMAP client has enabled UTF-8 support with the "ENABLE > UTF8=ACCEPT" command, it MUST NOT issue a "SEARCH" command that > contains a charset specification. If an IMAP server receives such a > "SEARCH" command in that situation, it SHOULD reject the command with > a "BAD" response (due to the conflicting charset labels). > > > Corrected Text > -------------- > Once an IMAP client has enabled UTF-8 support with the "ENABLE > UTF8=ACCEPT" command, it MUST NOT issue a "SEARCH" command that > contains a charset specification. If an IMAP server receives such a > "SEARCH" command in that situation, it SHOULD reject the command with > a "BAD" response (due to the conflicting charset labels). This also > applies to any IMAP command or extension that includes a charset > label and associated strings in the command arguments. Such > extensions presently include SORT, THREAD and MULTISEARCH. > > Notes > ----- > This is a straightforward extrapolation of the existing text, but a literal > reading of the existing text is silent about how to deal with this situation. > > Instructions: > ------------- > This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > > -------------------------------------- > RFC6855 (draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-12) > -------------------------------------- > Title : IMAP Support for UTF-8 > Publication Date : March 2013 > Author(s) : P. Resnick, Ed., C. Newman, Ed., S. Shen, Ed. > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Email Address Internationalization > Area : Applications > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Fri Jun 27 16:24:43 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7CA1A023E for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:24:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.251 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.251 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id egvzfVaZ0FX2 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsa2.jck.com (ns.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87CBD1A0213 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.252.137.115] (helo=JcK-HP8200.jck.com) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1X0fSZ-000Lfu-1x; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:21:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:24:18 -0400 From: John C Klensin To: Barry Leiba , RFC Errata System Message-ID: <74CBD6B935506BD14F0F6341@JcK-HP8200.jck.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20140627204539.20439180201@rfc-editor.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 198.252.137.115 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: john-ietf@jck.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on bsa2.jck.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ima/vlwzDxSV1HIIsdzaweN0W3Rbaw0 Cc: Pete Resnick , ima@ietf.org Subject: Re: [EAI] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6855 (4029) X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 23:24:35 -0000 --On Friday, June 27, 2014 18:11 -0400 Barry Leiba wrote: > This could be thought of as beyond the scope of errata, but I > actually think it *is* within scope and I will mark it > Verified early next week if no one objects. This absolutely > is something that we would have fixed in the original text if > we'd thought of it. > > Thanks for catching it now, Chris. FWIW, I concur. The extrapolation is obvious, but should have been explicit. To folks on the IMA list: as these sorts of things slowly accumulate and as we see announcements like the recent Google one to which Yao's recent note referred, it may be time to start a discussion about doing a careful review of the documents, upgrading them to cover these errata and questions, and moving the whole stuff to full standard. Does anyone care enough to do work? Do we have volunteers? john > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 4:45 PM, RFC Errata System > wrote: >> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6855, >> "IMAP Support for UTF-8". >> >> -------------------------------------- >> You may review the report below and at: >> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6855&eid=4029 >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Type: Technical >> Reported by: Chris Newman >> >> Section: 3 >> >> Original Text >> ------------- >> Once an IMAP client has enabled UTF-8 support with the >> "ENABLE UTF8=ACCEPT" command, it MUST NOT issue a "SEARCH" >> command that contains a charset specification. If an IMAP >> server receives such a "SEARCH" command in that situation, >> it SHOULD reject the command with a "BAD" response (due to >> the conflicting charset labels). >> >> >> Corrected Text >> -------------- >> Once an IMAP client has enabled UTF-8 support with the >> "ENABLE UTF8=ACCEPT" command, it MUST NOT issue a "SEARCH" >> command that contains a charset specification. If an IMAP >> server receives such a "SEARCH" command in that situation, >> it SHOULD reject the command with a "BAD" response (due to >> the conflicting charset labels). This also applies to any >> IMAP command or extension that includes a charset label >> and associated strings in the command arguments. Such >> extensions presently include SORT, THREAD and MULTISEARCH. >> >> Notes >> ----- >> This is a straightforward extrapolation of the existing text, >> but a literal reading of the existing text is silent about >> how to deal with this situation. >> >> Instructions: >> ------------- >> This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, >> please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be >> verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the >> verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and >> edit the report, if necessary. >> >> -------------------------------------- >> RFC6855 (draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-12) >> -------------------------------------- >> Title : IMAP Support for UTF-8 >> Publication Date : March 2013 >> Author(s) : P. Resnick, Ed., C. Newman, Ed., S. >> Shen, Ed. Category : PROPOSED STANDARD >> Source : Email Address Internationalization >> Area : Applications >> Stream : IETF >> Verifying Party : IESG > > _______________________________________________ > IMA mailing list > IMA@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ima From nobody Sat Jun 28 01:21:00 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40631A0310 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 01:20:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F-0VGXv0AHH6 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 01:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strange.aox.org (strange.aox.org [IPv6:2001:4d88:100c::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE3281A0248 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 01:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fri.gulbrandsen.priv.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by strange.aox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509D8FA0034; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 08:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no by fri.gulbrandsen.priv.no (Archiveopteryx 3.2.0) with esmtpsa id 1403943651-4945-4944/11/9; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 08:20:51 +0000 From: Arnt Gulbrandsen To: Barry Leiba Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 10:20:51 +0200 User-Agent: Trojita/v0.4.1-243-g4a74770; Qt/4.8.4; X11; Linux; Ubuntu 13.10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <60c7ed1d-cfd1-4dd3-b470-44fb11e5dce0@gulbrandsen.priv.no> In-Reply-To: References: <20140627204539.20439180201@rfc-editor.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ima/8XgoseIBdAcWcG1Ro68_rMuChUk Cc: John Klensin , Pete Resnick , ima@ietf.org, RFC Errata System Subject: Re: [EAI] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6855 (4029) X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 08:20:57 -0000 On Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:11:24 AM CEST, Barry Leiba wrote: > This could be thought of as beyond the scope of errata, but I actually > think it *is* within scope and I will mark it Verified early next week > if no one objects. This absolutely is something that we would have > fixed in the original text if we'd thought of it. > > Thanks for catching it now, Chris. We discussed it around May 2012. I think it was in the jabber/phone meeting when 6855-in-spe lost about twenty unnecessary rules in an hour. As I remember it, before the meeting there was a complex rule, and after it there was a simple rule. Now this erratum changes to a different simple rule. It's not clear to me that either simple rule is noticeably better than the other. Arnt From nobody Sun Jun 29 23:08:43 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F801A017C for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 23:08:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.258 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.258 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KcNdr3S3cRzd for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 23:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scintmta01-14.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp (scintmta.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp [133.2.253.64]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8950A1A0179 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2014 23:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scmeg01-14.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp (scmeg01-14.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp [133.2.253.15]) by scintmta01-14.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A124A32E0BC; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:08:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from itmail2.it.aoyama.ac.jp (unknown [133.2.206.134]) by scmeg01-14.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp with smtp id 6733_6e01_5676ef7b_0a38_4b0c_b157_a9f51cfdbacc; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:08:36 +0900 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (unknown [133.2.210.1]) by itmail2.it.aoyama.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA559BF510; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:08:36 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <53B0FED5.2090709@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:08:21 +0900 From: =?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiBKLiBEw7xyc3Qi?= Organization: Aoyama Gakuin University User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John C Klensin , Barry Leiba , RFC Errata System References: <20140627204539.20439180201@rfc-editor.org> <74CBD6B935506BD14F0F6341@JcK-HP8200.jck.com> In-Reply-To: <74CBD6B935506BD14F0F6341@JcK-HP8200.jck.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ima/15M2pfcnoY23HBbuMTXoY8PKgkY Cc: Pete Resnick , ima@ietf.org Subject: Re: [EAI] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6855 (4029) X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 06:08:40 -0000 On 2014/06/28 08:24, John C Klensin wrote: > To folks on the IMA list: as these sorts of things slowly > accumulate and as we see announcements like the recent Google > one to which Yao's recent note referred, it may be time to start > a discussion about doing a careful review of the documents, > upgrading them to cover these errata and questions, and moving > the whole stuff to full standard. Does anyone care enough to do > work? Do we have volunteers? I think it's still a bit early to seriously work on this, but I sincerely hope the time will come. I volunteer to review drafts, and to work on an update to RFC 6068 (mailto:), whether as part of the WG or not. Regards, Martin. From nobody Mon Jun 30 06:13:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ima@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947961A030F for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 06:13:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F0YIu2p36hMF for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 06:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strange.aox.org (strange.aox.org [IPv6:2001:4d88:100c::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50E931A030B for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 06:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fri.gulbrandsen.priv.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by strange.aox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C46F8C001; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no by fri.gulbrandsen.priv.no (Archiveopteryx 3.2.0) with esmtpsa id 1404134010-4945-4944/11/23; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:13:30 +0000 From: Arnt Gulbrandsen To: ima@ietf.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:13:29 +0200 User-Agent: Trojita/v0.4.1-243-g4a74770; Qt/4.8.4; X11; Linux; Ubuntu 13.10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <5d624ed7-55f6-4560-a926-e3b8a10733af@gulbrandsen.priv.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ima/a_Vv_LM66RW-MXPs7KiobM1n4-s Subject: [EAI] EAI patch for Postfix takes another small step X-BeenThere: ima@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAI \(Email Address Internationalization\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:13:36 -0000 Hi, at http://postfix.poldownload.com/postfix/postfix-source/index.html and in many other locations you can now find the EAI-patched postfix. It is not release quality; there are known bugs and limitations. Two relevant bugs are that case is not always insensitive when it should be, and that compiling postfix with -DNO_EAI does not eliminate all traces of EAI support (e.g. some 6533-related code remains active). But it'll do for testing. I trust the code enough that I'll switch my private mail over to Postfix+EAI. The code will be worked into the main release towards the end of this year. Wietse Venema will do that work, not I, and he's going to do it slowly, carefully and thoroughly. (Wietse is the main Postfix maintainer.) Arnt