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(192.168.1.100) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.224.2; Mon, 9 Mar 2015 09:38:13 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Ted Lemon In-Reply-To: <489D13FBFA9B3E41812EA89F188F018E1C9E4EF6@xmb-rcd-x04.cisco.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 12:38:09 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <3F03E5D9-2187-4A32-9868-700A1A6D8EDF@nominum.com> References: <489D13FBFA9B3E41812EA89F188F018E1C9E4EF6@xmb-rcd-x04.cisco.com> To: Bernie Volz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Originating-IP: [71.233.43.215] Archived-At: Cc: Barry Leiba , "int-dir@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Int-dir] FYI - RE: WG Review: Domain Boundaries (dbound) X-BeenThere: int-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is for discussion between the members of the Internet Area directorate." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2015 16:38:44 -0000 On Mar 9, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Bernie Volz (volz) wrote: > I had blocked this post as it wasn't clear it was intention, but IETF = Secretary did indicate it was intentional as Barry wanted the Internet = Directorate to be notified. As a rule, if the IESG sends mail to a particular IETF mailing list, you = should allow it through. One assumes that the reason for passing it = through was that it was hoped someone from int-dir would review the = charter. Might have been nice if Barry had specifically requested = that, though, rather than leaving it to chance... (Hi, Barry!) 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2015 16:40:53 -0000 > As a rule, if the IESG sends mail to a particular IETF mailing list, you > should allow it through. One assumes that the reason for passing it > through was that it was hoped someone from int-dir would review the > charter. Might have been nice if Barry had specifically requested that, > though, rather than leaving it to chance... (Hi, Barry!) I didn't leave it to chance: I asked the Secretariat to handle it. They did. Barry