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Reviewer: Dave Thaler
Review result: Ready with Nits

Reviewer: Dave Thaler
Review result: Ready with Nits

I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for draft-ietf-spring-nsh-sr-08.
These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Internet Area
Directors. Document editors and shepherd(s) should treat these comments
just like they would treat comments from any other IETF contributors and
resolve them along with any other Last Call comments that have been
received. For more details on the INT Directorate, see
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/intdir/about/>.

Note: I have not been following discussion on the technologies this
document references, but I found the document to be understandable on its own.

I have no technical comments on the document, only a number of editorial
comments which can be found in the PDF at
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/uploads/prod/2021/07/draft-ietf-spring-nsh-sr-08-dthaler.pdf




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Reviewer: Tim Chown
Review result: Ready with Nits

Hi,

This draft provides an analysis of IPv6 Extension Headers and Options,
discusses the implications of discarding packets containing them, and makes
recommendations on configurable filtering policy for each EH and Option for
transit routers.

I have followed the development of this draft, though not in great detail, and
was a co-author of RFC7872 on “Observations on the Dropping of Packets with
IPv6 Extension Headers in the Real World”, two other authors of which are the
authors of this document.  So I have familiarity with this strand of work.

Overall I consider this document is Ready with Nits.

General comments:

The publication of IETF guidance in the area of IPv6 EH and Option
handling/filtering, and speculation on the reasons behind the drops observed in
RFC7872, has been somewhat controversial in the 6man and v6ops WGs.  However,
having had the observations published some time ago (separate to any
recommendations), I would agree that it is now timely to publish this
Informational document as it provides what I’d consider good guidance.

The summary of existing EHs and Options presented in this draft is useful in
itself.  The style and format of the document is really nice, easy to follow,
and well-written.

I notice RFC6564 isn’t mentioned, should it be?

Specific comments:

P.3
“Since various protocols may use IPv6 EHs”
It would be really nice to have a list of such protocols included in the
document, so those choosing to set and implement policy can more clearly
understand the impact of that policy. This comment also applies to 3.4.1.4 (p.9)

P.4
“All standard IPv6 EHs”
Do you mean the list in Table 1 here?

“With respect to operational configurations”
Perhaps say “policy” here as it is policy that provides the rationale for not
just passing the packet as per 7045, and it MUST be configured policy that
dictates a different handling.

P.9
I assume you can also say that rate limiting will break protocols too?  Should
we say “Discarding or rate-limiting” in 3.4.1.4?

p.17
Could we add a summary table for Options like we have for EHs?
(There are some here that I’d forgotten existed and at least one I was unaware
of…)

Nits:

P.7 and elsewhere
Is it RHT0 etc or RTH0 ?  All this time I’d thought RouTing Header :)

p.8
Put the Types in order by code?
Same on p.13

—
Tim



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Reviewer: Ralf Weber
Review result: Ready with Issues

Moin!

I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for draft-ietf-rift-applicability.

These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Internet Area
Directors. Document editors and shepherd(s) should treat these comments just
like they would treat comments from any other IETF contributors and resolve
them along with any other Last Call comments that have been received. For more
details on the INT Directorate, see
https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/intdir/about/

This document does a good job explaining when RIFT can be used and how it
should be used in certain scenarios. The examples, especially the operational
considerations are understandable and describe applicable cases. There is a
steep learinig curve though with a lot of field (Date Center architecture and
routing) specific acronnyms used which while at least name expanded and
somtimed document referenced require a lot of external reading for a non field
aware reader, to fully understand the document. If the addressees of this
document are technical experts in the field as the intro to section 3 suggest,
then this is fine, however if the audience is more general IETF audience some
more introductionary explanation of these architectures and terms instead of
referring to external documents would be benefical.

So long
-Ralf




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Hi Dave,

Thank you for your review, very helpful! I have updated the document as per=
 your comments.

Jim

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Subject: RE: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-spring-nsh-sr-08

Dave, Thank you for your review, especially this close to IETF deadlines/me=
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Authors, please have a look at the editorial comments and update the draft =
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--Bruno

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