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I have not seen any activity from this group in a while. Does anyone 
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new requirements for IETF work do come up, we can certainly consider 
creating the group again.

Comments, objections, other thoughts?

Jari

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Subject: Re: time to close the working group
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Another proposal would be to broaden the scope of the WG to include ip AND
dvb activities e.g. Web and TV Services, which is indeed a very hot topic.
We are currently participating in the W3C "Web and TV" Interest Group and
there seem to be a lot of partners interested in this activity.

Since W3C activities are mostly application-oriented, I think that IETF
involvement, focusing mostly on the network part (e.g. delivery
architectures for mixed multimedia/DVB and HTTP content), would be greatly
appreciated.

If we decide to move this way, we would be keen to participate and
contribute.

But of course we need Gorry's decision and support from other partners also.

Regards

George Gardikis
NCSR "Demokritos"
Media Networks Laboratory



> I have not seen any activity from this group in a while. Does anyone
> mind if we close the working group? We'll leave the list open, and if
> new requirements for IETF work do come up, we can certainly consider
> creating the group again.
>
> Comments, objections, other thoughts?
>
> Jari
>
> P.S. I can't even get to the WG mailing list archive page from
> tools.ietf.org/wg/ipdvb. Can someone fix that? Gorry?
>
>
>



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I agree.
On Feb 21, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Georgios Gardikis wrote:

> Another proposal would be to broaden the scope of the WG to include ip AND
> dvb activities e.g. Web and TV Services, which is indeed a very hot topic.
> We are currently participating in the W3C "Web and TV" Interest Group and
> there seem to be a lot of partners interested in this activity.
> 
> Since W3C activities are mostly application-oriented, I think that IETF
> involvement, focusing mostly on the network part (e.g. delivery
> architectures for mixed multimedia/DVB and HTTP content), would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> If we decide to move this way, we would be keen to participate and
> contribute.
> 
> But of course we need Gorry's decision and support from other partners also.
> 
> Regards
> 
> George Gardikis
> NCSR "Demokritos"
> Media Networks Laboratory
> 
> 
> 
>> I have not seen any activity from this group in a while. Does anyone
>> mind if we close the working group? We'll leave the list open, and if
>> new requirements for IETF work do come up, we can certainly consider
>> creating the group again.
>> 
>> Comments, objections, other thoughts?
>> 
>> Jari
>> 
>> P.S. I can't even get to the WG mailing list archive page from
>> tools.ietf.org/wg/ipdvb. Can someone fix that? Gorry?
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Marie-José Montpetit
marie@mjmontpetit.com






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There is renewed interest from our side in advancing the security draft. 
If possible we would like to do this within the IETF.

Regards

Michael

Am 21.02.2011 22:03, schrieb Jari Arkko:
> I have not seen any activity from this group in a while. Does anyone
> mind if we close the working group? We'll leave the list open, and if
> new requirements for IETF work do come up, we can certainly consider
> creating the group again.
>
> Comments, objections, other thoughts?
>
> Jari
>
> P.S. I can't even get to the WG mailing list archive page from
> tools.ietf.org/wg/ipdvb. Can someone fix that? Gorry?
>
>

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But the question is if this draft could not be advanced in another group?

/mjm
On Feb 22, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Michael Noisternig wrote:

> There is renewed interest from our side in advancing the security draft. If possible we would like to do this within the IETF.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Michael
> 
> Am 21.02.2011 22:03, schrieb Jari Arkko:
>> I have not seen any activity from this group in a while. Does anyone
>> mind if we close the working group? We'll leave the list open, and if
>> new requirements for IETF work do come up, we can certainly consider
>> creating the group again.
>> 
>> Comments, objections, other thoughts?
>> 
>> Jari
>> 
>> P.S. I can't even get to the WG mailing list archive page from
>> tools.ietf.org/wg/ipdvb. Can someone fix that? Gorry?
>> 
>> 

Marie-José Montpetit
marie@mjmontpetit.com






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Hi all,
University of surrey also would like to support advancing the security draft in the IETF.

Haitham

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk [mailto:owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Michael Noisternig
Sent: 22 February 2011 13:17
To: ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk
Cc: Jari Arkko; Gorry Fairhurst; Ralph Droms
Subject: Re: time to close the working group

There is renewed interest from our side in advancing the security draft. 
If possible we would like to do this within the IETF.

Regards

Michael

Am 21.02.2011 22:03, schrieb Jari Arkko:
> I have not seen any activity from this group in a while. Does anyone 
> mind if we close the working group? We'll leave the list open, and if 
> new requirements for IETF work do come up, we can certainly consider 
> creating the group again.
>
> Comments, objections, other thoughts?
>
> Jari
>
> P.S. I can't even get to the WG mailing list archive page from 
> tools.ietf.org/wg/ipdvb. Can someone fix that? Gorry?
>
>


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Hi All

I agree that it would be a good idea to broaden the scope and look at some these activities. I would also like to support the security extension draft. 

Regards
Prashant

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk [mailto:owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Georgios Gardikis
Sent: 21 February 2011 22:13
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Subject: Re: time to close the working group

Another proposal would be to broaden the scope of the WG to include ip AND dvb activities e.g. Web and TV Services, which is indeed a very hot topic.
We are currently participating in the W3C "Web and TV" Interest Group and there seem to be a lot of partners interested in this activity.

Since W3C activities are mostly application-oriented, I think that IETF involvement, focusing mostly on the network part (e.g. delivery architectures for mixed multimedia/DVB and HTTP content), would be greatly appreciated.

If we decide to move this way, we would be keen to participate and contribute.

But of course we need Gorry's decision and support from other partners also.

Regards

George Gardikis
NCSR "Demokritos"
Media Networks Laboratory



> I have not seen any activity from this group in a while. Does anyone 
> mind if we close the working group? We'll leave the list open, and if 
> new requirements for IETF work do come up, we can certainly consider 
> creating the group again.
>
> Comments, objections, other thoughts?
>
> Jari
>
> P.S. I can't even get to the WG mailing list archive page from 
> tools.ietf.org/wg/ipdvb. Can someone fix that? Gorry?
>
>
>





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