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From ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 01 08:20:36 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IcKE3-0000T5-VL; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:18:15 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IcKE3-0000CU-7K for ipfix@ietf.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:18:15 -0400 Received: from gatekeeper.hitachi-eu.com ([194.36.128.25]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IcKDv-000235-UA for ipfix@ietf.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:18:08 -0400 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1191241085-544a002b0000-urGyNO X-Barracuda-URL: http://mhd-bar.hitachi-eu.com:8000/cgi-bin/mark.cgi Received: from mhd-mta-int.hitachi-eu.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gatekeeper.hitachi-eu.com (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id B6E191F21CF for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:18:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from mhd-mta-int.hitachi-eu.com ([193.39.225.234]) by gatekeeper.hitachi-eu.com with ESMTP id 6w7P9iNrM8n19Dqg for ; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:18:05 +0100 (BST) X-ASG-Whitelist: Client Received: from MHDEXC99.adhel.hitachi-eu.com (Not Verified[193.39.227.52]) by mhd-mta-int.hitachi-eu.com with MailMarshal (v6, 1, 8, 2172) id ; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:18:05 +0000 Received: from mhdexcb.adhel.hitachi-eu.com ([193.39.227.47]) by MHDEXC99.adhel.hitachi-eu.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:18:05 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7235.2 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: FloCon 2008 Call for Presentations Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:18:05 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FloCon 2008 Call for Presentations Thread-Index: AcgEJR6oPHiEtvheThm2lxc6Ik4YaQ== From: "Boschi, Elisa" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2007 12:18:05.0289 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E8C9590:01C80425] X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[193.39.225.234] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1191241085 X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by HEU SPAM Firewall - MHD at hitachi-eu.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 31b28e25e9d13a22020d8b7aedc9832c Subject: [IPFIX] FloCon 2008 Call for Presentations X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0522673508==" Errors-To: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0522673508== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C80425.1EB704ED" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80425.1EB704ED Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FloCon 2008 (there was no 2007) will be held Jan 7-10, 2008 in Savannah G= A. Information on the conference and the conference hotel are available at http://www.cert.org/flocon/ FloCon is an open workshop that provides a forum for operational analysts= , tool developers, and other parties interested in the security analysis = of large volumes of traffic to develop the next generation of flow-based = analysis. Flow is an abstraction of network traffic in which packets are = grouped together by common attributes over time. In security, flow has be= en used to survey and analyze large networks and long periods of time. Pr= esentation submissions are highly encouraged, but not required, to attend= =20the conference. Questions and comments can be directed to flocontact@= cert.org. Submission Deadline: Midnight, Friday October 5, 2007 EDT Email a short (one paragraph to one page) description of your presentatio= n to flocontact@cert.org. All submissions will be held in confidence by t= he FloCon committee pending acceptance and presentation at the workshop. = Author(s) must include their name, email address, telephone number and or= ganization they represent. Anonymous submissions will not be accepted. Wh= ile presentations are specifically sought, papers will also be considered= =20and, when accepted, included in the proceedings. All submissions are = subject to the FloCon copyright policy described on the web site. Presentations reflecting experience and practical issues are especially w= elcomed. Topics appropriate for presentation to this workshop include, bu= t are not limited to the following: =95 Flow for network forensics =95 Flow for network inventory =95 Visualizations of flow and analytical results =95 Multi-stage analysis methods =95 Merging flow with other data sources =95 Flow collection infrastructure =95 Using flow in incident response =95 Flow for IPv6 =95 Flow for information security =95 Flow sharing using anonymization for privacy and analysis =95 Threat analysis =95 New or innovative flow methods Notification of Acceptance: Friday, November 2, 2007 Final presentations are due Midnight, December 7, 2007 Eastern Standard T= ime. Accepted presentations will be presented by their author(s) at FloCo= n 2008 and will be published in the workshop proceedings. After the works= hop, presentations will be published and archived on the FloCon website Conference Committee: Timothy Shimeall, CERT/NetSA, Carnegie Mellon University, Chair Elisa Boschi, Hitachi Europe James Downey, US Department of Defense Jeffery Mauth, Pacific Northwest National Laboratory Colleen Shannon, CAIDA William Yurcik, University of Texas at Dallas *************************************************************************= *************************=20 E-mail Confidentiality Notice and Disclaimer.=20 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are in= tended solely for the use=20 of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. Access to this e= -mail by anyone else is=20 unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copy= ing, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited. E-m= ail messages are not=20 necessarily secure. Hitachi does not accept responsibility for any change= s made to this message=20 after it was sent.=20 Hitachi checks outgoing e-mail messages for the presence of computer viru= ses.=20 *************************************************************************= ************************* ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80425.1EB704ED Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.cert.= org/flocon/

FloCon is an open workshop that provides a forum for operational analysts= , tool developers, and other parties interested in the security analysis = of large volumes of traffic to develop the next generation of flow-based = analysis. Flow is an abstraction of network traffic in which packets are = grouped together by common attributes over time. In security, flow has be= en used to survey and analyze large networks and long periods of time. Pr= esentation submissions are highly encouraged, but not required, to attend= =20the conference.  Questions and comments can be directed to flocon= tact@cert.org.

Submission Deadline: Midnight, Friday October 5, 2007 EDT

Email a short (one paragraph to one page) description of your presentatio= n to flocontact@cert.org. All submissions will be held in confidence by t= he FloCon committee pending acceptance and presentation at the workshop. = Author(s) must include their name, email address, telephone number and or= ganization they represent. Anonymous submissions will not be accepted. Wh= ile presentations are specifically sought, papers will also be considered= =20and, when accepted,  included in the proceedings. All submissions= =20are subject to the FloCon copyright policy described on the web site.<= BR> Presentations reflecting experience and practical issues are especially w= elcomed. Topics appropriate for presentation to this workshop include, bu= t are not limited to the following:
•    Flow for network forensics
•    Flow for network inventory
•    Visualizations of flow and analytical results •    Multi-stage analysis methods
•    Merging flow with other data sources
•    Flow collection infrastructure
•    Using flow in incident response
•    Flow for IPv6
•    Flow for information security
•    Flow sharing using anonymization for privacy and= =20analysis
•    Threat analysis
•    New or innovative flow methods

Notification of Acceptance: Friday, November 2, 2007

Final presentations are due Midnight, December 7, 2007 Eastern Standard T= ime. Accepted presentations will be presented by their author(s) at FloCo= n 2008 and will be published in the workshop proceedings. After the works= hop, presentations will be published and archived on the FloCon website
Conference Committee:
Timothy Shimeall, CERT/NetSA, Carnegie Mellon University, Chair
Elisa Boschi, Hitachi Europe
James Downey, US Department of Defense
Jeffery Mauth, Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
Colleen Shannon, CAIDA
William Yurcik, University of Texas at Dallas

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C80425.1EB704ED-- --===============0522673508== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ IPFIX mailing list IPFIX@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix --===============0522673508==-- From ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 01 08:20:36 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IcKE3-0000T5-VL; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:18:15 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IcKE3-0000CU-7K for ipfix@ietf.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:18:15 -0400 Received: from gatekeeper.hitachi-eu.com ([194.36.128.25]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IcKDv-000235-UA for ipfix@ietf.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:18:08 -0400 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1191241085-544a002b0000-urGyNO X-Barracuda-URL: http://mhd-bar.hitachi-eu.com:8000/cgi-bin/mark.cgi Received: from mhd-mta-int.hitachi-eu.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gatekeeper.hitachi-eu.com (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id B6E191F21CF for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:18:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from mhd-mta-int.hitachi-eu.com ([193.39.225.234]) by gatekeeper.hitachi-eu.com with ESMTP id 6w7P9iNrM8n19Dqg for ; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:18:05 +0100 (BST) X-ASG-Whitelist: Client Received: from MHDEXC99.adhel.hitachi-eu.com (Not Verified[193.39.227.52]) by mhd-mta-int.hitachi-eu.com with MailMarshal (v6, 1, 8, 2172) id ; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:18:05 +0000 Received: from mhdexcb.adhel.hitachi-eu.com ([193.39.227.47]) by MHDEXC99.adhel.hitachi-eu.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:18:05 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7235.2 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: FloCon 2008 Call for Presentations Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:18:05 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FloCon 2008 Call for Presentations Thread-Index: AcgEJR6oPHiEtvheThm2lxc6Ik4YaQ== From: "Boschi, Elisa" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2007 12:18:05.0289 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E8C9590:01C80425] X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[193.39.225.234] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1191241085 X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by HEU SPAM Firewall - MHD at hitachi-eu.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 31b28e25e9d13a22020d8b7aedc9832c Subject: [IPFIX] FloCon 2008 Call for Presentations X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0522673508==" Errors-To: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0522673508== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C80425.1EB704ED" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80425.1EB704ED Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FloCon 2008 (there was no 2007) will be held Jan 7-10, 2008 in Savannah G= A. Information on the conference and the conference hotel are available at http://www.cert.org/flocon/ FloCon is an open workshop that provides a forum for operational analysts= , tool developers, and other parties interested in the security analysis = of large volumes of traffic to develop the next generation of flow-based = analysis. Flow is an abstraction of network traffic in which packets are = grouped together by common attributes over time. In security, flow has be= en used to survey and analyze large networks and long periods of time. Pr= esentation submissions are highly encouraged, but not required, to attend= =20the conference. Questions and comments can be directed to flocontact@= cert.org. Submission Deadline: Midnight, Friday October 5, 2007 EDT Email a short (one paragraph to one page) description of your presentatio= n to flocontact@cert.org. All submissions will be held in confidence by t= he FloCon committee pending acceptance and presentation at the workshop. = Author(s) must include their name, email address, telephone number and or= ganization they represent. Anonymous submissions will not be accepted. Wh= ile presentations are specifically sought, papers will also be considered= =20and, when accepted, included in the proceedings. All submissions are = subject to the FloCon copyright policy described on the web site. Presentations reflecting experience and practical issues are especially w= elcomed. Topics appropriate for presentation to this workshop include, bu= t are not limited to the following: =95 Flow for network forensics =95 Flow for network inventory =95 Visualizations of flow and analytical results =95 Multi-stage analysis methods =95 Merging flow with other data sources =95 Flow collection infrastructure =95 Using flow in incident response =95 Flow for IPv6 =95 Flow for information security =95 Flow sharing using anonymization for privacy and analysis =95 Threat analysis =95 New or innovative flow methods Notification of Acceptance: Friday, November 2, 2007 Final presentations are due Midnight, December 7, 2007 Eastern Standard T= ime. Accepted presentations will be presented by their author(s) at FloCo= n 2008 and will be published in the workshop proceedings. After the works= hop, presentations will be published and archived on the FloCon website Conference Committee: Timothy Shimeall, CERT/NetSA, Carnegie Mellon University, Chair Elisa Boschi, Hitachi Europe James Downey, US Department of Defense Jeffery Mauth, Pacific Northwest National Laboratory Colleen Shannon, CAIDA William Yurcik, University of Texas at Dallas *************************************************************************= *************************=20 E-mail Confidentiality Notice and Disclaimer.=20 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are in= tended solely for the use=20 of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. Access to this e= -mail by anyone else is=20 unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copy= ing, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited. E-m= ail messages are not=20 necessarily secure. Hitachi does not accept responsibility for any change= s made to this message=20 after it was sent.=20 Hitachi checks outgoing e-mail messages for the presence of computer viru= ses.=20 *************************************************************************= ************************* ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80425.1EB704ED Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.cert.= org/flocon/

FloCon is an open workshop that provides a forum for operational analysts= , tool developers, and other parties interested in the security analysis = of large volumes of traffic to develop the next generation of flow-based = analysis. Flow is an abstraction of network traffic in which packets are = grouped together by common attributes over time. In security, flow has be= en used to survey and analyze large networks and long periods of time. Pr= esentation submissions are highly encouraged, but not required, to attend= =20the conference.  Questions and comments can be directed to flocon= tact@cert.org.

Submission Deadline: Midnight, Friday October 5, 2007 EDT

Email a short (one paragraph to one page) description of your presentatio= n to flocontact@cert.org. All submissions will be held in confidence by t= he FloCon committee pending acceptance and presentation at the workshop. = Author(s) must include their name, email address, telephone number and or= ganization they represent. Anonymous submissions will not be accepted. Wh= ile presentations are specifically sought, papers will also be considered= =20and, when accepted,  included in the proceedings. All submissions= =20are subject to the FloCon copyright policy described on the web site.<= BR> Presentations reflecting experience and practical issues are especially w= elcomed. Topics appropriate for presentation to this workshop include, bu= t are not limited to the following:
•    Flow for network forensics
•    Flow for network inventory
•    Visualizations of flow and analytical results •    Multi-stage analysis methods
•    Merging flow with other data sources
•    Flow collection infrastructure
•    Using flow in incident response
•    Flow for IPv6
•    Flow for information security
•    Flow sharing using anonymization for privacy and= =20analysis
•    Threat analysis
•    New or innovative flow methods

Notification of Acceptance: Friday, November 2, 2007

Final presentations are due Midnight, December 7, 2007 Eastern Standard T= ime. Accepted presentations will be presented by their author(s) at FloCo= n 2008 and will be published in the workshop proceedings. After the works= hop, presentations will be published and archived on the FloCon website
Conference Committee:
Timothy Shimeall, CERT/NetSA, Carnegie Mellon University, Chair
Elisa Boschi, Hitachi Europe
James Downey, US Department of Defense
Jeffery Mauth, Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
Colleen Shannon, CAIDA
William Yurcik, University of Texas at Dallas

************= *************************************************************************= *************
E-mail=20 Confidentiality Notice and Disclaimer.

This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confiden= tial and=20 are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they= =20are=20 addressed. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you a= re not=20 the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any acti= on=20 taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited.
E-mail= =20 messages are not necessarily secure.
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"The degree of recovery in trading volume will largely decide how hig= h the market can go," he said.


In Asia on Tuesday, Tokyo's Nikkei 225 gained 200 points to close up = 1.19 percent at 17,047, its highest finish since August 9. Technology com= panies Sony (4.2 percent) and Canon (2.6 percent) and automakers Nissan (= 3 percent) were among the biggest gainers.


While handcuffed, the New Yorker became "disruptive" and she was take= n to a holding room, where she was left alone, Hill told CNN affiliate KT= VK.


The Dow Jones industrial average added nearly 192 points to end at an= all-time high of 14,087.55 points on Monday amid hopes that banks have p= ut the worst of the recent 'credit crunch' behind them and expectations t= hat the Federal Reserve will continue to cut interest rates.


"The Nikkei appears to be in a gradual uptrend now," Nobuyuki Nagamor= im, a technical analyst at Unimat Yamamaru Securities, told The Associate= d Press.


A spokeswoman for the Maricopa County medical examiner said an autops= y would be conducted Monday morning.


Stiles was a distant friend of the girl's family, De Meo said.

Todd Allen, a Las Vegas resident, told CNN he once lived with the g= irl from the video and her mother. He said he recognizes his old apartmen= t from scenes in the video. He said he knows the suspect because Allen's = mother dated Stiles and the couple spent time together at Allen's apartme= nt. Watch Allen describe Stiles and the girl =BB


"The mother has cooperated with us," De Meo said. "We believe that th= e mother was not aware of anything that went on with this young girl. It = was very sad for her to find this out."


CNN and other news organizations did so until the child was found, an= d De Meo asked media to stop showing the picture.


Authorities have identified Chester A. Stiles, 37, as the suspect in = the tape. A resident of Pahrump, Nevada, he remains at-large, De Meo sai= d. Pahrump is about 60 miles west of Las Vegas.


"She's what you'd expect a little girl in elementary school to be lik= e," he said. "You would never know something like that happened. Ever."

Allen said nobody realized the child had been abused.


Someone close to Stiles told investigators Stiles is a "survivalist t= ype" and always carries a weapon, Nye County District Attorney Bob Becket= t said.


Allen said he never witnessed Stiles physically assault anyone.

(CNN) -- Darren Tuck, the man who gave police a tape depicting th= e rape of a 3-year-old girl, turned himself in Sunday to Nye County, Neva= da, authorities.


"But I have seen him verbally and mentally assault many people," Alle= n told CNN. "He's good with mind games. He's good at twisting people's re= alities and manipulating people."


The tech-dominated Nasdaq also gained 1.5 percent for its highest clo= se since February 2001 while the S&P 500 gained 1.3 percent.


Investigators said officers went to check on her five to 10 minutes l= ater. Police policy requires that be done every 15 minutes.


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Please find it below and send us your comments. Thanks, Juergen Draft IPFIX Charter Update ========================== IP Flow Information Export (ipfix) Additional information is available at tools.ietf.org/wg/ipfix Chair(s): Nevil Brownlee Juergen Quittek Operations and Management Area Director(s): Dan Romascanu Ronald Bonica Operations and Management Area Advisor: Dan Romascanu Mailing Lists: General Discussion: ipfix@ietf.org To Subscribe: http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix Archive: http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipfix/current/index.html Description of Working Group: The IPFIX working group has specified the Information Model (to describe IP flows) and the IPFIX protocol (to transfer IP flow data from IPFIX exporters to collectors). Several implementers have already built applications using the IPFIX protocol. As a result of a series of IPFIX interoperability testing events the WG has produced guidelines for IPFIX implementation and testing as well as recommendations for handling special cases such as bidirectional flow reporting and reducing redundancy in flow records. Practical experiences with IPFIX implementations exposed new requirements for the IPFIX protocol that so far have not been addressed by the WG. The major current goal of the WG is developing solutions that meet the new requirements without modifying the core IPFIX protocol specifications. 1. The IPFIX WG has developed a MIB module for monitoring IPFIX implementations. Means for configuring these devices have not been standardized yet. The WG will develop an XML-based configuration data model that can be used for configuring IPFIX devices and for storing, modifying and managing IPFIX configurations parameter sets. This work will be performed in close collaboration with the NETCONF WG. 2. 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Another requirement resulting from practical use of IPFIX is reporting IPFIX template records and data records within a single SCTP stream. The IPFIX WG will develop guidelines for this use case. 5. First applications of IPFIX at large operator networks showed the need for mediation of flow information, for example, for aggregating huge amounts of flow data and for anomymization of flow information. The IPFIX WG will investigate this issue and produce a problem statement and a framework for IPFIX flow mediation. 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As the file format is written now, it requires type export and it makes sense to have both of them on standards track. However, as soon as the current individual drafts become WG documents, the WG gets control on the content and will be free to change it. If there are arguments that convince the WG to apply changes, we will do so. I hope that everybody can live with the way the charter proposal is phrased right now having in mind that most of the documents listed are quite mature already, but certainly not finalized, yet. Thanks, Juergen On 09.10.2007 12:05 Uhr "Juergen Quittek" wrote: > Dear all, > > Concluding our discussion of new IPIFX work items, > Nevil and I prepared a draft of a revision of our charter. > > Please find it below and send us your comments. > > Thanks, > > Juergen > > > Draft IPFIX Charter Update > ========================== > > IP Flow Information Export (ipfix) > > Additional information is available at tools.ietf.org/wg/ipfix > > Chair(s): > Nevil Brownlee > Juergen Quittek > > Operations and Management Area Director(s): > Dan Romascanu > Ronald Bonica > > Operations and Management Area Advisor: > Dan Romascanu > > Mailing Lists: > General Discussion: ipfix@ietf.org > To Subscribe: http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix > Archive: http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipfix/current/index.html > > > Description of Working Group: > > The IPFIX working group has specified the Information Model (to > describe IP flows) and the IPFIX protocol (to transfer IP flow data > from IPFIX exporters to collectors). Several implementers have > already built applications using the IPFIX protocol. As a result > of a series of IPFIX interoperability testing events the WG has > produced guidelines for IPFIX implementation and testing as well as > recommendations for handling special cases such as bidirectional flow > reporting and reducing redundancy in flow records. > > Practical experiences with IPFIX implementations exposed new > requirements for the IPFIX protocol that so far have not been addressed > by the WG. The major current goal of the WG is developing solutions > that meet the new requirements without modifying the core IPFIX > protocol specifications. > > 1. The IPFIX WG has developed a MIB module for monitoring IPFIX > implementations. Means for configuring these devices have not been > standardized yet. The WG will develop an XML-based configuration data > model that can be used for configuring IPFIX devices and for storing, > modifying and managing IPFIX configurations parameter sets. This > work will be performed in close collaboration with the NETCONF WG. > > 2. There is a need for storing measured flow information and for exchanging > this information between different systems and organizations. The WG > develop a common IPFIX file format for storing flow data in order to > facilitating interoperability and reusability among a wide variety of > flow storage, processing, and analysis tools. It will be a flat-file > format using binary encodings that are based on the IPFIX message format. > > 3. When dealing with enterprise-specific information elements in IPFIX flow > records, it often occurs that the receiver of the record does not know > the definition of the information element. For processing such information > elements it would be desirable for the receiver to know at least the data > types of the enterprise-specific information elements. The WG will develop > an extension to IPFIX that provides means for the encoding of IPFIX data > type information within an IPFIX Message stream. > > 4. Another requirement resulting from practical use of IPFIX is reporting > IPFIX template records and data records within a single SCTP stream. > The IPFIX WG will develop guidelines for this use case. > > 5. First applications of IPFIX at large operator networks showed the need > for mediation of flow information, for example, for aggregating huge > amounts of flow data and for anomymization of flow information. The IPFIX > WG will investigate this issue and produce a problem statement and a > framework for IPFIX flow mediation. > > Goals and Milestones: > Done Publish Internet Draft on IPFIX Testing > Done Publish Internet Draft on IPFIX MIB > Nov 2007 Submit IPFIX Testing draft to IESG for publication > as Informational RFC > Nov 2007 Submit IPFIX MIB draft to IESG for publication > as Standards track RFC > > > Dec 2007 Publish Internet draft on IPFIX Configuration Data Model > Dec 2007 Publish Internet draft on IPFIX File Format > Dec 2007 Publish Internet draft on IPFIX Type Information Export > Dec 2007 Publish Internet draft on Single SCTP Stream Reporting > Jan 2008 Publish Internet draft on IPFIX Mediation Problem Statement > Jun 2008 Submit File Format draft to IESG for publication > as Standards track RFC > Jun 2008 Submit Type Export draft to IESG for publication > as Standards track RFC > Jun 2008 Submit Single SCTP Stream draft to IESG for publication > as Informational RFC > Oct 2008 Submit Configuration Data Model draft to IESG for publication > as Standards track RFC > Oct 2008 Submit Mediation Problem draft to IESG for publication > as Informational RFC > > > _______________________________________________ > IPFIX mailing list > IPFIX@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix _______________________________________________ IPFIX mailing list IPFIX@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix From ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Wed Oct 10 08:39:26 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ifaol-0004Q5-5S; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:37:39 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ifaok-0004Po-4g for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:37:38 -0400 Received: from smtp0.netlab.nec.de ([195.37.70.40]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ifaoj-000267-74 for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:37:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (atlas1.office [127.0.0.1]) by smtp0.netlab.nec.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B628A2801E321 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:37:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (atlas1.office) Received: from smtp0.netlab.nec.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas1.office [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FGD5SvaDtbTW for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:37:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx1.office (mx1.office [10.1.1.23]) by smtp0.netlab.nec.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8E62801E27F for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:37:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 10.1.1.104 ([10.1.1.104]) by mx1.office ([10.1.1.23]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:37:31 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.3.6.070618 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:37:29 +0200 Subject: Re: [IPFIX] draft IPFIX charter update From: Juergen Quittek To: "ipfix@ietf.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [IPFIX] draft IPFIX charter update Thread-Index: AcgKW/k+N8DTGHZPEdyo4gAWy4a5GwA3linU In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 87a3f533bb300b99e2a18357f3c1563d X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Dear all, I received a few comments on the charter and want to clarify one issue: > Jun 2008 Submit Type Export draft to IESG for publication > as Standards track RFC We had a controversial discussion on whether the type export would be an essential or optional for the file format and whether it should be informational or standards track. As the file format is written now, it requires type export and it makes sense to have both of them on standards track. However, as soon as the current individual drafts become WG documents, the WG gets control on the content and will be free to change it. If there are arguments that convince the WG to apply changes, we will do so. I hope that everybody can live with the way the charter proposal is phrased right now having in mind that most of the documents listed are quite mature already, but certainly not finalized, yet. Thanks, Juergen On 09.10.2007 12:05 Uhr "Juergen Quittek" wrote: > Dear all, > > Concluding our discussion of new IPIFX work items, > Nevil and I prepared a draft of a revision of our charter. > > Please find it below and send us your comments. > > Thanks, > > Juergen > > > Draft IPFIX Charter Update > ========================== > > IP Flow Information Export (ipfix) > > Additional information is available at tools.ietf.org/wg/ipfix > > Chair(s): > Nevil Brownlee > Juergen Quittek > > Operations and Management Area Director(s): > Dan Romascanu > Ronald Bonica > > Operations and Management Area Advisor: > Dan Romascanu > > Mailing Lists: > General Discussion: ipfix@ietf.org > To Subscribe: http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix > Archive: http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipfix/current/index.html > > > Description of Working Group: > > The IPFIX working group has specified the Information Model (to > describe IP flows) and the IPFIX protocol (to transfer IP flow data > from IPFIX exporters to collectors). Several implementers have > already built applications using the IPFIX protocol. As a result > of a series of IPFIX interoperability testing events the WG has > produced guidelines for IPFIX implementation and testing as well as > recommendations for handling special cases such as bidirectional flow > reporting and reducing redundancy in flow records. > > Practical experiences with IPFIX implementations exposed new > requirements for the IPFIX protocol that so far have not been addressed > by the WG. The major current goal of the WG is developing solutions > that meet the new requirements without modifying the core IPFIX > protocol specifications. > > 1. The IPFIX WG has developed a MIB module for monitoring IPFIX > implementations. Means for configuring these devices have not been > standardized yet. The WG will develop an XML-based configuration data > model that can be used for configuring IPFIX devices and for storing, > modifying and managing IPFIX configurations parameter sets. This > work will be performed in close collaboration with the NETCONF WG. > > 2. There is a need for storing measured flow information and for exchanging > this information between different systems and organizations. The WG > develop a common IPFIX file format for storing flow data in order to > facilitating interoperability and reusability among a wide variety of > flow storage, processing, and analysis tools. It will be a flat-file > format using binary encodings that are based on the IPFIX message format. > > 3. When dealing with enterprise-specific information elements in IPFIX flow > records, it often occurs that the receiver of the record does not know > the definition of the information element. For processing such information > elements it would be desirable for the receiver to know at least the data > types of the enterprise-specific information elements. The WG will develop > an extension to IPFIX that provides means for the encoding of IPFIX data > type information within an IPFIX Message stream. > > 4. Another requirement resulting from practical use of IPFIX is reporting > IPFIX template records and data records within a single SCTP stream. > The IPFIX WG will develop guidelines for this use case. > > 5. First applications of IPFIX at large operator networks showed the need > for mediation of flow information, for example, for aggregating huge > amounts of flow data and for anomymization of flow information. The IPFIX > WG will investigate this issue and produce a problem statement and a > framework for IPFIX flow mediation. > > Goals and Milestones: > Done Publish Internet Draft on IPFIX Testing > Done Publish Internet Draft on IPFIX MIB > Nov 2007 Submit IPFIX Testing draft to IESG for publication > as Informational RFC > Nov 2007 Submit IPFIX MIB draft to IESG for publication > as Standards track RFC > > > Dec 2007 Publish Internet draft on IPFIX Configuration Data Model > Dec 2007 Publish Internet draft on IPFIX File Format > Dec 2007 Publish Internet draft on IPFIX Type Information Export > Dec 2007 Publish Internet draft on Single SCTP Stream Reporting > Jan 2008 Publish Internet draft on IPFIX Mediation Problem Statement > Jun 2008 Submit File Format draft to IESG for publication > as Standards track RFC > Jun 2008 Submit Type Export draft to IESG for publication > as Standards track RFC > Jun 2008 Submit Single SCTP Stream draft to IESG for publication > as Informational RFC > Oct 2008 Submit Configuration Data Model draft to IESG for publication > as Standards track RFC > Oct 2008 Submit Mediation Problem draft to IESG for publication > as Informational RFC > > > _______________________________________________ > IPFIX mailing list > IPFIX@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix _______________________________________________ IPFIX mailing list IPFIX@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix From ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Wed Oct 10 11:44:33 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IfdiE-0002te-J0; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:43:06 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IfdiD-0002tY-OD for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:43:05 -0400 Received: from mx04.uni-tuebingen.de ([134.2.3.9]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ifdi7-00067i-D4 for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:43:05 -0400 Received: from [134.2.172.138] (u-172-c138.cs.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.172.138]) by mx04.uni-tuebingen.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9AFgaB4018129; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:42:41 +0200 Message-ID: <470CF2BE.6080503@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:41:50 +0200 From: Gerhard Muenz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juergen Quittek Subject: Re: [IPFIX] draft IPFIX charter update References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.2-11; AVE: 7.6.0.20; VDF: 7.0.0.72; host: mx04) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 Cc: "ipfix@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Dear Juergen, Benoit, I propose the following wording change: > 4. Another requirement resulting from practical use of IPFIX is reporting > IPFIX template records and data records within a single SCTP stream. > The IPFIX WG will develop guidelines for this use case. "reporting IPFIX template records and *corresponding* data records within the *same* SCTP stream" > Dec 2007 Publish Internet draft on Single SCTP Stream Reporting > Jun 2008 Submit Single SCTP Stream draft to IESG for publication > as Informational RFC I do not know if "Single SCTP Stream Reporting" is an appropriate short title for the document, yet I do not have a better alternative. The current title of draft-claise-ipfix-export-per-sctp-stream-01 is "IPFIX Export per SCTP Stream". Regards, Gerhard _______________________________________________ IPFIX mailing list IPFIX@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix From ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Wed Oct 10 11:44:34 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IfdiE-0002te-J0; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:43:06 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IfdiD-0002tY-OD for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:43:05 -0400 Received: from mx04.uni-tuebingen.de ([134.2.3.9]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ifdi7-00067i-D4 for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:43:05 -0400 Received: from [134.2.172.138] (u-172-c138.cs.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.172.138]) by mx04.uni-tuebingen.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9AFgaB4018129; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:42:41 +0200 Message-ID: <470CF2BE.6080503@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:41:50 +0200 From: Gerhard Muenz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juergen Quittek Subject: Re: [IPFIX] draft IPFIX charter update References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.2-11; AVE: 7.6.0.20; VDF: 7.0.0.72; host: mx04) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 Cc: "ipfix@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Dear Juergen, Benoit, I propose the following wording change: > 4. Another requirement resulting from practical use of IPFIX is reporting > IPFIX template records and data records within a single SCTP stream. > The IPFIX WG will develop guidelines for this use case. "reporting IPFIX template records and *corresponding* data records within the *same* SCTP stream" > Dec 2007 Publish Internet draft on Single SCTP Stream Reporting > Jun 2008 Submit Single SCTP Stream draft to IESG for publication > as Informational RFC I do not know if "Single SCTP Stream Reporting" is an appropriate short title for the document, yet I do not have a better alternative. The current title of draft-claise-ipfix-export-per-sctp-stream-01 is "IPFIX Export per SCTP Stream". Regards, Gerhard _______________________________________________ IPFIX mailing list IPFIX@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix From ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Wed Oct 10 16:47:34 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IfiRN-0002sx-N8; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:46:01 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IfiRM-0002ss-54 for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:46:00 -0400 Received: from no-more.cisco.com ([64.104.206.251] helo=av-tac-apt.cisco.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IfiRE-0008PB-5K for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:46:00 -0400 X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-apt.cisco.com (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id l9AKjh820012; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:45:44 +1000 (EST) Received: from [10.61.64.179] (ams3-vpn-dhcp179.cisco.com [10.61.64.179]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id l9AKjaI09853; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:45:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <470D39EB.3040408@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:45:31 +0200 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerhard Muenz Subject: Re: [IPFIX] draft IPFIX charter update References: <470CF2BE.6080503@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> In-Reply-To: <470CF2BE.6080503@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6e922792024732fb1bb6f346e63517e4 Cc: "ipfix@ietf.org" , Juergen Quittek X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1432149425==" Errors-To: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1432149425== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090200010300050303010308" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090200010300050303010308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gerhard, > Dear Juergen, Benoit, > > I propose the following wording change: > > >> 4. Another requirement resulting from practical use of IPFIX is reporting >> IPFIX template records and data records within a single SCTP stream. >> The IPFIX WG will develop guidelines for this use case. >> > > "reporting IPFIX template records and *corresponding* data records > within the *same* SCTP stream" > Agreed. > >> Dec 2007 Publish Internet draft on Single SCTP Stream Reporting >> Jun 2008 Submit Single SCTP Stream draft to IESG for publication >> as Informational RFC >> > > I do not know if "Single SCTP Stream Reporting" is an appropriate short > title for the document, yet I do not have a better alternative. The > current title of draft-claise-ipfix-export-per-sctp-stream-01 is "IPFIX > Export per SCTP Stream". > I understand the concern, and I'm open to any suggestions. Regards, Benoit. > Regards, > Gerhard > --------------090200010300050303010308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gerhard, 
Dear Juergen, Benoit,

I propose the following wording change:

  
4. Another requirement resulting from practical use of IPFIX is reporting
IPFIX template records and data records within a single SCTP stream.
The IPFIX WG will develop guidelines for this use case.
    

"reporting IPFIX template records and *corresponding* data records
within the *same* SCTP stream"
Agreed.
  
Dec 2007    Publish Internet draft on Single SCTP Stream Reporting
Jun 2008    Submit Single SCTP Stream draft to IESG for publication
            as Informational RFC
    

I do not know if "Single SCTP Stream Reporting" is an appropriate short
title for the document, yet I do not have a better alternative. The
current title of draft-claise-ipfix-export-per-sctp-stream-01 is "IPFIX
Export per SCTP Stream".
I understand the concern, and I'm open to any suggestions.

Regards, Benoit.
Regards,
Gerhard

--------------090200010300050303010308-- --===============1432149425== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ IPFIX mailing list IPFIX@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix --===============1432149425==-- From ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Wed Oct 10 16:47:34 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IfiRN-0002sx-N8; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:46:01 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IfiRM-0002ss-54 for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:46:00 -0400 Received: from no-more.cisco.com ([64.104.206.251] helo=av-tac-apt.cisco.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IfiRE-0008PB-5K for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:46:00 -0400 X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-apt.cisco.com (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id l9AKjh820012; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:45:44 +1000 (EST) Received: from [10.61.64.179] (ams3-vpn-dhcp179.cisco.com [10.61.64.179]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id l9AKjaI09853; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:45:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <470D39EB.3040408@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:45:31 +0200 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerhard Muenz Subject: Re: [IPFIX] draft IPFIX charter update References: <470CF2BE.6080503@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> In-Reply-To: <470CF2BE.6080503@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6e922792024732fb1bb6f346e63517e4 Cc: "ipfix@ietf.org" , Juergen Quittek X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1432149425==" Errors-To: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1432149425== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090200010300050303010308" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090200010300050303010308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gerhard, > Dear Juergen, Benoit, > > I propose the following wording change: > > >> 4. Another requirement resulting from practical use of IPFIX is reporting >> IPFIX template records and data records within a single SCTP stream. >> The IPFIX WG will develop guidelines for this use case. >> > > "reporting IPFIX template records and *corresponding* data records > within the *same* SCTP stream" > Agreed. > >> Dec 2007 Publish Internet draft on Single SCTP Stream Reporting >> Jun 2008 Submit Single SCTP Stream draft to IESG for publication >> as Informational RFC >> > > I do not know if "Single SCTP Stream Reporting" is an appropriate short > title for the document, yet I do not have a better alternative. The > current title of draft-claise-ipfix-export-per-sctp-stream-01 is "IPFIX > Export per SCTP Stream". > I understand the concern, and I'm open to any suggestions. Regards, Benoit. > Regards, > Gerhard > --------------090200010300050303010308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gerhard, 
Dear Juergen, Benoit,

I propose the following wording change:

  
4. Another requirement resulting from practical use of IPFIX is reporting
IPFIX template records and data records within a single SCTP stream.
The IPFIX WG will develop guidelines for this use case.
    

"reporting IPFIX template records and *corresponding* data records
within the *same* SCTP stream"
Agreed.
  
Dec 2007    Publish Internet draft on Single SCTP Stream Reporting
Jun 2008    Submit Single SCTP Stream draft to IESG for publication
            as Informational RFC
    

I do not know if "Single SCTP Stream Reporting" is an appropriate short
title for the document, yet I do not have a better alternative. The
current title of draft-claise-ipfix-export-per-sctp-stream-01 is "IPFIX
Export per SCTP Stream".
I understand the concern, and I'm open to any suggestions.

Regards, Benoit.
Regards,
Gerhard

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http://www.jenaior.net/?weerbglym ------------FB09B252525250-- From dcy@bostonsci.com.br Tue Oct 16 00:55:49 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IheT7-0005BA-I6 for ipfix-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:55:49 -0400 Received: from [203.150.117.166] (helo=speedtouch.lan) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IheSN-0002gc-BG for ipfix-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:55:49 -0400 Received: from [203.150.117.166] by mail.igempresas.ig.com.br; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:55:12 +0900 From: "Otto Potts" To: Subject: Hong Kong's leader is picked by 800-member committee loyal to Beijing Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:55:12 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C80FFC.2BE39710" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Aca6Q80TBPO9QIK2GW2VK8QUZH96H1== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Message-ID: <01c80ffc$2be39710$a67596cb@dcy> X-Spam-Score: 3.8 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 66ff42a56498684039efb58366a4b354 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C80FFC.2BE39710 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000F_01C80FFC.2BE39710" ------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C80FFC.2BE39710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Despite U.S. pledges of cooperation and new ideas on missile defense, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates were warned by President Vladimir Putin to back off on missile defense plans for the former Soviet sphere.As part of that plan, experts from all nations covered by the system would be based at missile defense facilities to try to improve coordination and transparency.Russian President Vladimir Putin says any treaty must be "universal in nature.""The indirect fire attack resulted in three large explosions near the Dora market," the military said.Initial reaction from Lavrov and Serdyukov, though, was less gracious."I agree that we did not agree on anything today," one official told reporters. He added quickly that neither Washington nor Moscow had expected significant breakthroughs.U.S. military planners quietly have stepped up a review of alternatives in case the Turkish government restricts U.S. access to Turkish airspace or cuts off access to the air base at Incirlik, Turkey, CNN has learned.The United States has repeatedly rejected Russian demands to freeze U.S. negotiations with Poland and the Czech Republic, and Rice did so again Friday, said three senior U.S. officials present at the sessions with Rice, Gates, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov.The wounded troops were transported to a military medical facility for "emergency treatment and further evaluation," the military said, adding the incident is under investigation."Events have triggered more detailed planning for the curtailment or closure" of access to Turkey, one official said. The key issue is to find ways to ship supplies and other critical equipment into Iraq. ------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C80FFC.2BE39710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Despite U.S. pledges of cooperation and new ideas on missile defense, Sec= retary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates were = warned by President Vladimir Putin to back off on missile defense plans f= or the former Soviet sphere.

As part of that plan, experts from all nations covered by the system woul= d be based at missile defense facilities to try to improve coordination a= nd transparency.

Russian President Vladimir Putin says any treaty must be "universal in na= ture."

"The indirect fire attack resulted in three large explosions near the Dor= a market," the military said.

Initial reaction from Lavrov and Serdyukov, though, was less gracious.

"I agree that we did not agree on anything today," one official told repo= rters. He added quickly that neither Washington nor Moscow had expected s= ignificant breakthroughs.

U.S. military planners quietly have stepped up a review of alternatives i= n case the Turkish government restricts U.S. access to Turkish airspace o= r cuts off access to the air base at Incirlik, Turkey, CNN has learned.

The United States has repeatedly rejected Russian demands to freeze U.S. = negotiations with Poland and the Czech Republic, and Rice did so again Fr= iday, said three senior U.S. officials present at the sessions with Rice,= Gates, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Defense Minister Anato= ly Serdyukov.

The wounded troops were transported to a military medical facility for "e= mergency treatment and further evaluation," the military said, adding the= incident is under investigation.

"Events have triggered more detailed planning for the curtailment or clos= ure" of access to Turkey, one official said. The key issue is to find way= s to ship supplies and other critical equipment into Iraq.

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From ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Tue Oct 16 22:44:59 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IhysM-0001S0-Cd; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:43:14 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IhysL-0001RS-Pv for ipfix@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:43:13 -0400 Received: from mail.nttv6.net ([192.68.245.115]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IhysL-0003co-2v for ipfix@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:43:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dhcp-3-141.nttv6.com [192.47.163.141]) by mail.nttv6.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l9H2h9re058071; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:43:11 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from akoba@nttv6.net) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:43:11 +0900 From: kobayashi atsushi To: Juergen Quittek Subject: Re: [IPFIX] draft IPFIX charter update In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <20071017101401.B999.AKOBA@nttv6.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.30.02 [ja] X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.nttv6.net [192.68.245.115]); Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:43:11 +0900 (JST) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8abaac9e10c826e8252866cbe6766464 Cc: "ipfix@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Dear all, I have submitted the problem statement draft about flow measurement in large scale networks. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kobayashi-ipfix-large-ps-00.txt Especially, it focuses on the problem of scalability parts, not general flow mediation. As first step, we will be able to investigate these issues and other general flow mediation issues by this draft. Your comments are welcome. Best Regards, Atsushi KOBAYASHI On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:05:52 +0200 Juergen Quittek wrote: > 5. First applications of IPFIX at large operator networks showed the need > for mediation of flow information, for example, for aggregating huge > amounts of flow data and for anomymization of flow information. 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The goal of these tests is to ensure that all important functions are covered by tests and thereby to gain a level of confidence in the Exporting Process and Collecting Process that allows the implementer to perform interoperability or plug tests with other IPFIX Exporting Processes and Collecting Processes.Conventions used in this document The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in [RFC2119]. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-10-17144922.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-10-17144922.I-D\@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ IPFIX mailing list IPFIX@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix --NextPart-- From ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Wed Oct 17 14:51:37 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiDyY-0000tB-Nu; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:50:38 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiDyS-0000oG-RJ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:50:32 -0400 Received: from ns4.neustar.com ([156.154.24.139]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiDyS-0007EN-8Z; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:50:32 -0400 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns4.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8262ACA2; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:50:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IiDxx-0007gv-T3; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:50:01 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:50:01 -0400 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a2c12dacc0736f14d6b540e805505a86 Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: [IPFIX] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Flow Information Export Working Group of the IETF. Title : IP Flow Information eXport (IPFIX) Testing Author(s) : C. Schmoll, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt Pages : 39 Date : 2007-10-17 This document presents a list of tests that implementers of IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) compliant Exporting Processes and Collecting Processes should perform on their IPFIX Exporting Process and/or Collecting Process. This document has been created to help implementers test the functionality of their IPFIX Exporting Process and/or Collecting Process. The goal of these tests is to ensure that all important functions are covered by tests and thereby to gain a level of confidence in the Exporting Process and Collecting Process that allows the implementer to perform interoperability or plug tests with other IPFIX Exporting Processes and Collecting Processes.Conventions used in this document The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in [RFC2119]. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-10-17144922.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-10-17144922.I-D\@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ IPFIX mailing list IPFIX@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix --NextPart-- From ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Wed Oct 17 15:00:46 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiE7j-0006HO-PW; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:00:07 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiE7i-0006H9-NK for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:00:06 -0400 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiE7c-0007sI-G9 for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:00:06 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,290,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="155936260" Received: from ams-dkim-2.cisco.com ([144.254.224.139]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Oct 2007 20:59:45 +0200 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l9HIxidC017984 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:59:44 +0200 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.71.48]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l9HIxiUh020762 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:59:44 GMT Received: from [10.61.65.203] (ams3-vpn-dhcp459.cisco.com [10.61.65.203]) by cisco.com (8.8.8-Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA20010 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:59:43 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <47165B9F.6@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:59:43 +0100 From: Paul Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-GB; rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/20070509 SeaMonkey/1.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipfix@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=2243; t=1192647584; x=1193511584; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=paitken@cisco.com; z=From:=20Paul=20Aitken=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20New=20Version=20Notification=20for=20draft-ietf-ipfix -testing-02 |Sender:=20; bh=53uYcoUGWW//M6Sq58L/O1HiIpKqPtZtrPJzMJQsV8M=; b=K6v6jqKwI8pF8nBUF2MCPwqC1pEQHd4CZwBeBs1hy6fQWKLbgbrmMs1VAT5LuRmVALvC20te amDXOwM51W0WeHM8ZnD29z7UW+Nx4bOk6iIK/HTFSiMKzQUYTHn2umt1; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-2; header.From=paitken@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim2001 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d8ae4fd88fcaf47c1a71c804d04f413d Subject: [IPFIX] Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org As you'll have seen, I just posted IPFIX-TESTING-02. Carsten, Benoit and I now believe the draft is complete. It's available here: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt FYI, The -01 to -02 changes were as follows: Overview: 1. Remove stream zero restrictions 2. Padding changes: * wrong padding isn't invalid * collector won't shut down the association 3. Last call updates 4. TCP and template ID re-use 1. Ensured the draft is in line with the "stream zero" design. 2. Removed the second half of section 3.2.3 which deals with closing down the connection when non-zero set padding is received. NB section 3.2.4 deals with Record Padding (ie, paddingOctets) with no mention of invalid values. 3a. Changed "The Scope Field Count MAY NOT be zero" to "MUST NOT". 3b. Changed text in the "Metering Process Statistics Option Template" section from "If several Metering Processes use the same Exporting Process" to "If several Metering Processes are available on the Exporter Observation Domain" in line with section 4.1 of IPFIX-PROTO. 3c. Added Benoit's name as co-author (previously accidentally omitted). 4. TCP and template ID re-use Changed the text in section 3.6.8.1.2. "Using TCP transport" (under "Re-using Template IDs / Re-using the same Template ID inside the Template expiry time"), from: The tester MUST cause the same Template to be exported to the same Collecting Process again, and MUST ensure that the Collecting Process accepts the Template. to The tester MUST cause the same Template to be exported to the same Collecting Process again, and MUST ensure that the Collecting Process resets the TCP connection and discards the IPFIX Message. (Per section 10.4.3 "Collecting Process" of IPFIX-PROTO 25). Also added a missing paragraph here, copying from the SCTP section: The tester MUST create and export another IPFIX Template to a Collecting Process over TCP transport. Cheers. -- Paul Aitken Cisco Systems Ltd, Edinburgh, Scotland. _______________________________________________ IPFIX mailing list IPFIX@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix From ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Wed Oct 17 15:00:47 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiE7j-0006HO-PW; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:00:07 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiE7i-0006H9-NK for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:00:06 -0400 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiE7c-0007sI-G9 for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:00:06 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,290,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="155936260" Received: from ams-dkim-2.cisco.com ([144.254.224.139]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Oct 2007 20:59:45 +0200 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l9HIxidC017984 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:59:44 +0200 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.71.48]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l9HIxiUh020762 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:59:44 GMT Received: from [10.61.65.203] (ams3-vpn-dhcp459.cisco.com [10.61.65.203]) by cisco.com (8.8.8-Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA20010 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:59:43 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <47165B9F.6@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:59:43 +0100 From: Paul Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-GB; rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/20070509 SeaMonkey/1.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipfix@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=2243; t=1192647584; x=1193511584; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=paitken@cisco.com; z=From:=20Paul=20Aitken=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20New=20Version=20Notification=20for=20draft-ietf-ipfix -testing-02 |Sender:=20; bh=53uYcoUGWW//M6Sq58L/O1HiIpKqPtZtrPJzMJQsV8M=; b=K6v6jqKwI8pF8nBUF2MCPwqC1pEQHd4CZwBeBs1hy6fQWKLbgbrmMs1VAT5LuRmVALvC20te amDXOwM51W0WeHM8ZnD29z7UW+Nx4bOk6iIK/HTFSiMKzQUYTHn2umt1; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-2; header.From=paitken@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim2001 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d8ae4fd88fcaf47c1a71c804d04f413d Subject: [IPFIX] Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org As you'll have seen, I just posted IPFIX-TESTING-02. Carsten, Benoit and I now believe the draft is complete. It's available here: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt FYI, The -01 to -02 changes were as follows: Overview: 1. Remove stream zero restrictions 2. Padding changes: * wrong padding isn't invalid * collector won't shut down the association 3. Last call updates 4. TCP and template ID re-use 1. Ensured the draft is in line with the "stream zero" design. 2. Removed the second half of section 3.2.3 which deals with closing down the connection when non-zero set padding is received. NB section 3.2.4 deals with Record Padding (ie, paddingOctets) with no mention of invalid values. 3a. Changed "The Scope Field Count MAY NOT be zero" to "MUST NOT". 3b. Changed text in the "Metering Process Statistics Option Template" section from "If several Metering Processes use the same Exporting Process" to "If several Metering Processes are available on the Exporter Observation Domain" in line with section 4.1 of IPFIX-PROTO. 3c. Added Benoit's name as co-author (previously accidentally omitted). 4. TCP and template ID re-use Changed the text in section 3.6.8.1.2. "Using TCP transport" (under "Re-using Template IDs / Re-using the same Template ID inside the Template expiry time"), from: The tester MUST cause the same Template to be exported to the same Collecting Process again, and MUST ensure that the Collecting Process accepts the Template. to The tester MUST cause the same Template to be exported to the same Collecting Process again, and MUST ensure that the Collecting Process resets the TCP connection and discards the IPFIX Message. (Per section 10.4.3 "Collecting Process" of IPFIX-PROTO 25). Also added a missing paragraph here, copying from the SCTP section: The tester MUST create and export another IPFIX Template to a Collecting Process over TCP transport. Cheers. -- Paul Aitken Cisco Systems Ltd, Edinburgh, Scotland. _______________________________________________ IPFIX mailing list IPFIX@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix From ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Wed Oct 17 16:10:17 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiFCk-0002MG-0K; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:09:22 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiDxs-0007w1-LY for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:49:56 -0400 Received: from ns4.neustar.com ([156.154.24.139]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiDxs-0007DT-Al for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:49:56 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (stiedprweb1.va.neustar.com [10.91.34.42]) by ns4.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306192AC9E; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:49:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mirror by ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IiDxN-0003iB-SV; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:49:25 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: paitken@cisco.com From: IETF I-D Submission Tool Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:49:25 -0400 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:09:20 -0400 Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: [IPFIX] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt has been successfuly submitted by Paul Aitken and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-ietf-ipfix-testing Revision: 02 Title: IP Flow Information eXport (IPFIX) Testing Creation_date: 2007-10-17 WG ID: ipfix Number_of_pages: 39 Abstract: This document presents a list of tests that implementers of IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) compliant Exporting Processes and Collecting Processes should perform on their IPFIX Exporting Process and/or Collecting Process. This document has been created to help implementers test the functionality of their IPFIX Exporting Process and/or Collecting Process. The goal of these tests is to ensure that all important functions are covered by tests and thereby to gain a level of confidence in the Exporting Process and Collecting Process that allows the implementer to perform interoperability or plug tests with other IPFIX Exporting Processes and Collecting Processes.Conventions used in this document The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in [RFC2119]. The IETF Secretariat. _______________________________________________ IPFIX mailing list IPFIX@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix From ipfix-bounces@ietf.org Wed Oct 17 16:10:18 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiFCk-0002MG-0K; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:09:22 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiDxs-0007w1-LY for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:49:56 -0400 Received: from ns4.neustar.com ([156.154.24.139]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiDxs-0007DT-Al for ipfix@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:49:56 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (stiedprweb1.va.neustar.com [10.91.34.42]) by ns4.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306192AC9E; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:49:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mirror by ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IiDxN-0003iB-SV; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:49:25 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: paitken@cisco.com From: IETF I-D Submission Tool Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:49:25 -0400 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:09:20 -0400 Cc: ipfix@ietf.org Subject: [IPFIX] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02 X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipfix-bounces@ietf.org A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ipfix-testing-02.txt has been successfuly submitted by Paul Aitken and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-ietf-ipfix-testing Revision: 02 Title: IP Flow Information eXport (IPFIX) Testing Creation_date: 2007-10-17 WG ID: ipfix Number_of_pages: 39 Abstract: This document presents a list of tests that implementers of IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) compliant Exporting Processes and Collecting Processes should perform on their IPFIX Exporting Process and/or Collecting Process. This document has been created to help implementers test the functionality of their IPFIX Exporting Process and/or Collecting Process. The goal of these tests is to ensure that all important functions are covered by tests and thereby to gain a level of confidence in the Exporting Process and Collecting Process that allows the implementer to perform interoperability or plug tests with other IPFIX Exporting Processes and Collecting Processes.Conventions used in this document The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in [RFC2119]. 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