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> On 04 Jun 2015, at 13:07, Nick Brown <brownn@Brocade.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi All,
>=20
> In a sentence, is it expected that ipNextHopIPv6Address should report
> the global ipv6 address of the next hop when it has one, or may the =
link
> local address be reported instead?
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5102#section-5.7.3

First, the proper reference for the definitions of IEs in the IPFIX =
information model is http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipfix/ipfix.xhtml; =
per 7012, 5102 is no longer considered authoritative for IE definitions.

(In this case, though, this is an admittedly pedantic distinction; the =
content is identical).

> There are obvious cases where the next hop may only have link local
> address, if example it's only configured that way. But in other cases
> where it may have both a link local and global address it's often the
> case that routing protocols may use local addresses to setup the
> forwarding plane where traffic is being observed. Thus at the point in
> the forwarding path that traffic is being observed this all that is
> available, and it's not apparent that a mapping from link local =
address
> to global address (where is exists) can be done.

The way I read this, if the address is not being changed as part of the =
packet handing (on which see the fifth point in section 2.3 of RFC =
7012), the address to report is the address the packets are sent to in =
the context of the egress interface. If the connection between the =
device the MP is on and the next hop has link-local addresses only, then =
the link-local address is the correct one to export.

Cheers,

Brian

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Dear list,

RFC 7011 defines the following regarding sequence numbers in Message =
headers (Section 3.1 =E2=80=94 Message Header Format): Incremental =
sequence counter modulo 2^32 of all IPFIX Data Records sent in the =
current stream from the current Observation Domain by the Exporting =
Process.

This can however be interpreted in two ways:

(1) Incremental sequence counter modulo 2^32 of all IPFIX Data Records =
sent in the current stream from the current Observation Domain by the =
Exporting Process *up to* this Message.
(2) Incremental sequence counter modulo 2^32 of all IPFIX Data Records =
sent in the current stream from the current Observation Domain by the =
Exporting Process *up to and including* this Message.

It seems that only Section 10.3.2 =E2=80=94 Reliability explains which =
of the two interpretations is right: In the case of UDP, the IPFIX =
Sequence Number contains the total number of IPFIX Data Records sent for =
the Transport Session *prior* to the receipt of this IPFIX Message, =
modulo 2^32.

In my opinion, it would be good to clarify the use of sequence numbers =
in Message headers already in the definition of sequence numbers in RFC =
7011, namely in Section 3.1.

Best regards,

=E2=80=94
Rick Hofstede=

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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Dear list,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">RFC 7011 defines the following regarding sequence numbers in =
Message headers (Section 3.1 =E2=80=94 Message Header Format):&nbsp;<i =
class=3D"">Incremental sequence counter modulo 2^32 of all IPFIX Data =
Records sent in the current stream from the current Observation Domain =
by the Exporting Process.</i></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This can however be interpreted in two =
ways:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">(1) =
Incremental sequence counter modulo 2^32 of all IPFIX Data Records sent =
in the current stream from the current Observation Domain by the =
Exporting Process *up to*&nbsp;this Message.</div><div class=3D"">(2) =
Incremental sequence counter modulo 2^32 of all IPFIX Data Records sent =
in the current stream from the current Observation Domain by the =
Exporting Process *up to and including* this Message.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It seems that only =
Section 10.3.2 =E2=80=94 Reliability explains which of the two =
interpretations is right:&nbsp;<i class=3D"">In the case of UDP, the =
IPFIX Sequence Number contains the total number of IPFIX Data Records =
sent for the Transport Session *prior* to the receipt of this IPFIX =
Message, modulo 2^32.</i></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">In my opinion, it would be good to clarify the use of =
sequence numbers in Message headers already in the definition of =
sequence numbers in RFC 7011, namely in Section 3.1.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Best regards,</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">=E2=80=94</div><div =
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hi Rick,

Yep, this is a good point. Could you file an editorial erratum?

Thanks, cheers,

Brian

> On 19 Jun 2015, at 10:37, Rick Hofstede <r.j.hofstede@utwente.nl> =
wrote:
>=20
> Dear list,
>=20
> RFC 7011 defines the following regarding sequence numbers in Message =
headers (Section 3.1 =E2=80=94 Message Header Format): Incremental =
sequence counter modulo 2^32 of all IPFIX Data Records sent in the =
current stream from the current Observation Domain by the Exporting =
Process.
>=20
> This can however be interpreted in two ways:
>=20
> (1) Incremental sequence counter modulo 2^32 of all IPFIX Data Records =
sent in the current stream from the current Observation Domain by the =
Exporting Process *up to* this Message.
> (2) Incremental sequence counter modulo 2^32 of all IPFIX Data Records =
sent in the current stream from the current Observation Domain by the =
Exporting Process *up to and including* this Message.
>=20
> It seems that only Section 10.3.2 =E2=80=94 Reliability explains which =
of the two interpretations is right: In the case of UDP, the IPFIX =
Sequence Number contains the total number of IPFIX Data Records sent for =
the Transport Session *prior* to the receipt of this IPFIX Message, =
modulo 2^32.
>=20
> In my opinion, it would be good to clarify the use of sequence numbers =
in Message headers already in the definition of sequence numbers in RFC =
7011, namely in Section 3.1.
>=20
> Best regards,
>=20
> =E2=80=94
> Rick Hofstede
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC7011,
"Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) Protocol for the Exchange of Flow Information".

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=7011&eid=4396

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Rick Hofstede <rick.hofstede@redsocks.nl>

Section: 3.1

Original Text
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Incremental sequence counter modulo 2^32 of all IPFIX Data Records
sent in the current stream from the current Observation Domain by
the Exporting Process.

Corrected Text
--------------
Incremental sequence counter modulo 2^32 of all IPFIX Data Records
sent in the current stream from the current Observation Domain by
the Exporting Process, prior to the receipt of this IPFIX Message.

Notes
-----
The original specification can be interpreted in two ways:

(1) Incremental sequence counter modulo 2^32 of all IPFIX Data Records sent in the current stream from the current Observation Domain by the Exporting Process *up to* this Message.
(2) Incremental sequence counter modulo 2^32 of all IPFIX Data Records sent in the current stream from the current Observation Domain by the Exporting Process *up to and including* this Message.

It seems that only Section 10.3.2 — Reliability explains which of the two interpretations is right: In the case of UDP, the IPFIX Sequence Number contains the total number of IPFIX Data Records sent for the Transport Session *prior* to the receipt of this IPFIX Message, modulo 2^32.

In my opinion, it would be good to clarify the use of sequence numbers in Message headers already in the definition of sequence numbers in RFC 7011, namely in Section 3.1.

Discussed here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipfix/AQKObQ2WA_zIXgRzdxRsDrIWjx0

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RFC7011 (draft-ietf-ipfix-protocol-rfc5101bis-10)
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Title               : Specification of the IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) Protocol for the Exchange of Flow Information
Publication Date    : September 2013
Author(s)           : B. Claise, Ed., B. Trammell, Ed., P. Aitken
Category            : INTERNET STANDARD
Source              : IP Flow Information Export
Area                : Operations and Management
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG

