ACTION REQUEST PWG-wide comments needed on the PWG Standard for = Multifunction Device Counters specification

Hope to see you there. Bill Wagner, NetSilicon, a Digi International Company ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4C9C4.A3E0F4BA Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" November 16 WIMS face to face

Hi,

With this call-in info:

Dial In: 1-866-365-4406
Toll #: 1-303-248-9655
Passcode: 2635888#

Cheers,

- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

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From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org]On Behalf Of Wagner,William
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 6:24 PM
To: 'Pwg-Announce (E-mail)
Cc: wims@pwg.org
Subject: WIMS> November 16 WIMS face to face

The WIMS WG will meet Tuesday 16 November at

The Clarion Hotel Riverwalk

110 Lexington Avenue

San Antonio, TX 78205

The proposed agenda is:

9:00 - 9:15 Introductions

9:15 - 10:00 Review of Last F2F minutes and Action Items

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/minutes/wims_041005a.pdf

Action Items

1. Specs to accompany schemas. : revised conclusion

2. Define counters conformance subset : Discuss in Counters Section

3. Build sub-schemas tailored to compliance subset

4. Define equations of interest: Discuss in Counters Section

5. WIMS spec terminology updates: discuss with spec review

6. WIMS spec change order of ops: discuss with spec review

7. Change ReportSoureURI : discuss with spec review

8. Completed

9. Requirements doc

10. Prototype demo requested by Apple

11. UML sequence diagrams: : discuss with spec review

12. Develop agentSchema

13. Implementers Guide

14. Call for interest in Printer MIBv2 and Counters MIB interop test

1. Do we really need Printer MIB and Counter MIB interop testing more than anything else we are doing in WIMS?

2. Target - Discuss at November Plenary, following completion of Counters spec.

10:00 - 10:15 Summary of Prototype Activity

10:15 - 10:30 Break

10:30 - 12:00 Detailed Review of the MFD Counters Spec

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20041102.doc

12:00 - 13:00 Lunch Break

13:00 - 14:00 Consideration of Counters Spec Mandatory Objects

14:00 - 15:30 Discussion of The Subunits XML schema v0.20

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/schemas/subunits-20041106.xsd

15:30 - 15:45 Break

15:45 - 16:30 Review of the current WIMS Protocol Spec.

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wims10-20041108.pdf

16:30 - 17:00 Next Steps; Discussion of Relevance to WS-Management Spec

http://www.intel.com/technology/manage/downloads/ws_management.pdf

Hope to see you there.

Bill Wagner, NetSilicon, a Digi International Company

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4C9C4.A3E0F4BA-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Sun Nov 14 19:48:32 2004 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA26235; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:48:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id iAF0mVp11555; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:47:23 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id iAF0lF711228 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:47:15 -0500 (EST) To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> PWG Formal Vote Results for Printer Working Group Standards Development Process V2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 From: thrasher@lexmark.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:47:10 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on smtp5b/Lex/Lexmark(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 11/14/2004 07:47:10 PM, Serialize complete at 11/14/2004 07:47:10 PM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 000451FC85256F4D_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 000451FC85256F4D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The results of the recently completed PWG Formal Vote for the Printer Working Group Standards Development Process V2.0 are as follows: Vote Count: Yes: 11 No: 0 Abstain: 0 PWG Process Document 2.0 Criteria: 1. Met the 25 percent participation (needed at least 9 votes). 2. Met the 66 percent yes votes. 3. Met the 50 percent of votes either yes or no....(needed at least 6) PWG Process Document 2.0 Formal Vote passes. --=_alternative 000451FC85256F4D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
The results of the recently completed PWG Formal Vote for the Printer Working Group Standards Development Process V2.0 are as follows:

Vote Count:

Yes: 11
No: 0
Abstain: 0

PWG Process Document 2.0 Criteria:

1. Met the 25 percent participation (needed at least 9 votes).
2. Met the 66 percent yes votes.
3. Met the 50 percent of votes either yes or no....(needed at least 6)

PWG Process Document 2.0 Formal Vote passes.
--=_alternative 000451FC85256F4D_=-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Mon Nov 15 09:23:56 2004 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA27173; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id iAFENjl18646; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:23:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:19:34 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id iAFEIuo18303 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:18:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "McDonald, Ira" To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Monday PWG San Antonio schedule Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 06:18:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org [on behalf of Harry Lewis, PWG chairman] Monday morning in San Antonio has been left open so PWG members can attend the FSG. Monday afternoon from 1:30pm to 5pm the PWG will breakout and cover 1. Finisher MIB request from UP3i 2. Begin reviewing latest draft of Counters spec in preperation for WIMs meeting on Tuesday. If you are not present in San Antonio but wish to dial in for either of these topics you are welcomd to do so. Dial In: 1-866-365-4406 Toll #: 1-303-248-9655 Passcode: 2635888# ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Mon Nov 15 14:28:13 2004 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA23559; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:28:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id iAFJSAN01034; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:28:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:26:12 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id iAFJQ5x00706 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:26:05 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: To: "McDonald, Ira" Cc: pwg-announce@pwg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Monday PWG San Antonio schedule X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:24:28 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 6.51HF338 | June 21, 2004) at 11/15/2004 12:24:29, Serialize complete at 11/15/2004 12:24:29 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006A9BD587256F4D_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006A9BD587256F4D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" We are having some technical difficulty... if you plan to dial-in to the PWG on Monday afternoon... give us until 1:45 Central. If that does not work, try back at 2pm. We should be up. If not... then we were unable to resolve the difficulties. ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ---------------------------------------------- "McDonald, Ira" Sent by: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org 11/15/2004 07:18 AM To pwg-announce@pwg.org cc Subject PWG-ANNOUNCE> Monday PWG San Antonio schedule [on behalf of Harry Lewis, PWG chairman] Monday morning in San Antonio has been left open so PWG members can attend the FSG. Monday afternoon from 1:30pm to 5pm the PWG will breakout and cover 1. Finisher MIB request from UP3i 2. Begin reviewing latest draft of Counters spec in preperation for WIMs meeting on Tuesday. If you are not present in San Antonio but wish to dial in for either of these topics you are welcomd to do so. Dial In: 1-866-365-4406 Toll #: 1-303-248-9655 Passcode: 2635888# ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 --=_alternative 006A9BD587256F4D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
We are having some technical difficulty... if you plan to dial-in to the PWG on Monday afternoon... give us until 1:45 Central. If that does not work, try back at 2pm. We should be up. If not... then we were unable to resolve the difficulties.
----------------------------------------------
Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
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"McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com>
Sent by: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org

11/15/2004 07:18 AM

To	pwg-announce@pwg.org
cc
Subject	PWG-ANNOUNCE> Monday PWG San Antonio schedule

[on behalf of Harry Lewis, PWG chairman] Monday morning in San Antonio has been left open so PWG members can attend the FSG. Monday afternoon from 1:30pm to 5pm the PWG will breakout and cover 1. Finisher MIB request from UP3i 2. Begin reviewing latest draft of Counters spec in preperation for WIMs meeting on Tuesday. If you are not present in San Antonio but wish to dial in for either of these topics you are welcomd to do so. Dial In: 1-866-365-4406 Toll #: 1-303-248-9655 Passcode: 2635888# ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337
--=_alternative 006A9BD587256F4D_=-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Tue Nov 16 09:27:19 2004 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA02247; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id iAGERHI29728; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:23:10 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id iAGEMqG29504 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:22:53 -0500 (EST) To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Cc: don@lexmark.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Clarion hotel rooms X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 07:22:47 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 6.51HF338 | June 21, 2004) at 11/16/2004 07:22:48, Serialize complete at 11/16/2004 07:22:48 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004EFD2587256F4E_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004EFD2587256F4E_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" If checking in to the Clarion in San Antonio, you must ASK for a room with high-speed internet if you want one. Otherwise you may get a room w/o this. ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ---------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 004EFD2587256F4E_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
If checking in to the Clarion in San Antonio, you must ASK for a room with high-speed internet if you want one. Otherwise you may get a room w/o this.
----------------------------------------------
Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
---------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 004EFD2587256F4E_=-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Tue Nov 16 14:16:49 2004 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA01274; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:16:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id iAGJGK411316; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:11:58 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id iAGJBnV10789 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:11:49 -0500 (EST) To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Cc: thrasher@lexmark.com, don@lexmark.com, mfenelon@MICROSOFT.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> San Antonio Brainstorm X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:11:38 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 6.51HF338 | June 21, 2004) at 11/16/2004 12:11:38, Serialize complete at 11/16/2004 12:11:38 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00696E5487256F4E_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00696E5487256F4E_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The PWG/FSG brainstorm session will be this evening (Tuesday) from 6-8pm (potentially commencing earlier if the WIMS meeting wraps). Come to the Clarion room Brazos A. We plan to order pizza. I will put up a phone session when we start but I'll probably take it down if no one has dialed in by 6:30. Times are in Central zone. ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ---------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 00696E5487256F4E_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
The PWG/FSG brainstorm session will be this evening (Tuesday) from 6-8pm (potentially commencing earlier if the WIMS meeting wraps). Come to the Clarion room Brazos A. We plan to order pizza. I will put up a phone session when we start but I'll probably take it down if no one has dialed in by 6:30. Times are in Central zone.
----------------------------------------------
Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
---------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 00696E5487256F4E_=-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Tue Nov 16 14:17:17 2004 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA01321; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id iAGJGpj11406; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:17:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:12:48 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id iAGJCcN10841 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:12:38 -0500 (EST) To: pwg-announce@pwg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Brainstorm phone bridge X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:12:24 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 6.51HF338 | June 21, 2004) at 11/16/2004 12:12:25, Serialize complete at 11/16/2004 12:12:25 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0069809D87256F4E_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0069809D87256F4E_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Dial In: 1-866-365-4406 Toll #: 1-303-248-9655 Passcode: 2635888# ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ---------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 0069809D87256F4E_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Dial In: 1-866-365-4406
Toll #: 1-303-248-9655
Passcode: 2635888#
----------------------------------------------
Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
---------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 0069809D87256F4E_=-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Wed Nov 17 00:57:06 2004 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA13918; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id iAH5v6n16815; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:55:52 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id iAH5tiN16521 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:55:44 -0500 (EST) To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Cc: imcdonald@sharplabs.com, PZehler@crt.xerox.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Plenary/Brainstorm slides and Plenary reminder X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:55:25 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 6.51HF338 | June 21, 2004) at 11/16/2004 22:55:26, Serialize complete at 11/16/2004 22:55:26 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00208A4A87256F4F_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00208A4A87256F4F_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Brainstorm (held Tuesday evening) ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/PWGBrainStormNovember2004.pdf Plenary (for Wednesday 9am Central) ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/Plenary/PWGPlenaryNovember2004.pdf Dial In: 1-866-365-4406 Toll #: 1-303-248-9655 Passcode: 2635888# ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ---------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 00208A4A87256F4F_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Brainstorm (held Tuesday evening) ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/PWGBrainStormNovember2004.pdf
Plenary (for Wednesday 9am Central) ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/Plenary/PWGPlenaryNovember2004.pdf
Dial In: 1-866-365-4406
Toll #: 1-303-248-9655
Passcode: 2635888#
----------------------------------------------
Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
---------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 00208A4A87256F4F_=-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Thu Nov 18 10:31:34 2004 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA03738; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id iAIFVTD10929; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:27:24 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id iAIFRGc10614 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:27:16 -0500 (EST) To: pwg-announce@pwg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Final San Antonio Plenary Slides X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:27:00 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 6.51HF338 | June 21, 2004) at 11/18/2004 08:27:01, Serialize complete at 11/18/2004 08:27:01 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0054DF1F87256F50_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0054DF1F87256F50_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The final Plenary slides from San Antonio are posted. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/Plenary/PWGPlenaryNovember2004a.pdf These include an updated 2005 schedule slide. ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ---------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 0054DF1F87256F50_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
The final Plenary slides from San Antonio are posted.
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/Plenary/PWGPlenaryNovember2004a.pdf
These include an updated 2005 schedule slide.
----------------------------------------------
Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
---------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 0054DF1F87256F50_=-- From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Nov 22 02:29:32 2004 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA25511 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:29:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id iAM7TVt15013 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:29:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:28:38 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id iAM7Rit14887 for ipp-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xnmsrelay1.terra.com (xnmsrelay1.terra.com [206.221.206.67]) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with ESMTP id iAM7Rgx14883 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from xnmsmtp1.terra.com (xnmsmtp1.us.adm [10.20.18.120]) by xnmsrelay1.terra.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F8A12052C for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from terra.com (unknown [206.221.206.74]) by xnmsmtp1.terra.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FEF118006 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:27:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 03:27:43 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: IPP> CUPS printer "is not ready" -- how to make it ready? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=__=_XaM3_.1101108463.2A.516141.42.27830.52.42.007.1000241886" From: "Martin Schwarzkopf" To: "ipp" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B8) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 200.78.84.18 Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org --_=__=_XaM3_.1101108463.2A.516141.42.27830.52.42.007.1000241886 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Perhaps this is a little long to explain but I need to do it this way so= you can have a complete idea of my problem. I am in charge of a 25 P= C network at the place I work, 23 PCs have Linux installed as Operating = System and 2 of them have Windows XP. The server is also a Linux box r= unning an application made in Cobol. All the Linux boxes have SuSE Linux= 9.1. We have around a dozen matrix printers (Epson FX-890) connected= to some linux stations and a laser printer (HP LaserJet 1300) connected= to one of the windows PCs. All the PCs connect to the Linux server th= rough a ssh session. At the Linux Server, all the printers (Linux and= Windows) are declared as remote raw printers so that the users can pri= nt from the Cobol application. This server application sends pure text= to the remote printers. At the server, the remote queues are declared=0D = as with CUPS at the Linux PCs and with SMB at the windows one. Each L= inux workstation printer has 2 queues defined. One raw queue called "lp"= to receive the jobs sent by the server and one filtered queue for the l= ocal printing (usually jobs from OpenOffice). This queue is usually nam= ed according to the labour of the user (sales5, credit2, control1, etc)=0D = The laser printer connected to the Windows PC works fine. ALWAYS. The = matrix printers work only perfectly when the user sends a local print jo= b (OpenOffice, Mozilla, Gimp, etc). The problem is that when the server= sends a raw print job to the remote queues, frecuently, the printer sta= tus turns to "Printer is not ready" without any reason. This happens mor= e or less after 3 or 4 print jobs sent to same remote queue. Sometim= es the queue looks empty, and some others don't. The strange thing is th= at the user gets a complete and normally printed job, but when the print= er turns to the "Printer is not ready" state, even when the report seems= to be finished, sometimes it still appears in the queue. The only wa= y I found to solve this, was creating a script to modify the /etc/cups/p= rinters.conf file to turn it to "Printer IS ready" and to restart the=0D = daemon. (CUPS 1.1). This script checks the queue every minute. It doe= snt matter if the jobs was still appearing in the queue, if the printer = turned to the "is not ready" state, it will be printed again when I rest= art the daemon!!! So, if the user is printing numbered invoices or in = a different kind of paper, they waste resources ans time. If the repo= rt is quite long (3 or more minutes), the printer queue will turn again = into the "not ready" state before it finishes and the cron daemon will=0D = restart the cups daemon and I that user will have 3 or more copies of th= e same report. Can anybody lend me a hand? We were working with SuSE= 8.0 before and this didn't happen. I have this problem since the upgrad= e to 9.1 I think that the "Job Persistence" feature of cups is, in pa= rt, cause of my problem. Do you know how to disable it? I will appreciat= e any help anyone can give to me. Thanks a lot in advance, Martin S= chwarzkopf mschwarzkopf@terra.com=0A____________________________________= _______________=0A=A1Sobre autos lo sabemos todo, y te podemos ayudar!=0A= Ya sea para comprar, vender o comparar autos, entra en el canal de autos = de Terra.com=0ATe aconsejamos, te informamos y te mostramos todo lo que n= ecesitas saber.=0Ahttp://www.terra.com/autos --_=__=_XaM3_.1101108463.2A.516141.42.27830.52.42.007.1000241886 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Perhaps this is a little long to explain but I need
to do it this= way so you can have a complete idea of
my problem.

I am in charge of a 25 PC network at the place I work,
23= PCs have Linux installed as Operating System and
2 of them have Windo= ws XP. The server is also a Linux
box running an application mad= e in Cobol. All the
Linux boxes have SuSE Linux 9.1.

= ;

We have around a dozen matrix printers (Epson FX-890)
co= nnected to some linux stations and a laser printer
(HP LaserJet 1300) = connected to one of the windows PCs.

All t= he PCs connect to the Linux server through a ssh
session.

At the Linux Server, all the printers (Linux and Windo= ws)
are declared as remote raw printers so that the users
can print= from the Cobol application.

This server a= pplication sends pure text to the remote
printers. At the server, the = remote queues are declared
as with CUPS at the Linux PCs and with SMB = at the
windows one.

Each Linux workstat= ion printer has 2 queues defined.
One raw queue called "lp" to receive= the jobs sent
by the server and one filtered queue for the local
p= rinting (usually jobs from OpenOffice). This queue
is usually named ac= cording to the labour of the user
(sales5, credit2, control1, etc)

The laser printer connected to the Windows PC= works
fine. ALWAYS. The matrix printers work only perfectly
when t= he user sends a local print job (OpenOffice,
Mozilla, Gimp, etc). The = problem is that when the
server sends a raw print job to the remote qu= eues,
frecuently, the printer status turns to "Printer is
not ready= " without any reason. This happens more or
less after 3 or 4 print job= s sent to same remote
queue.

Sometimes = the queue looks empty, and some others don't.
The strange thing is tha= t the user gets a complete and
normally printed job, but when the prin= ter turns to the
"Printer is not ready" state, even when the report se= ems
to be finished, sometimes it still appears in the queue.

The only way I found to solve this, was creating a<= BR>script to modify the /etc/cups/printers.conf file
to turn it to "Pr= inter IS ready" and to restart the
daemon. (CUPS 1.1). This script che= cks the queue
every minute.

It doesnt m= atter if the jobs was still appearing in
the queue, if the printer tur= ned to the "is not ready"
state, it will be printed again when I resta= rt the
daemon!!! So, if the user is printing numbered
invoice= s or in a different kind of paper, they waste
resources ans time.

If the report is quite long (3 or more minutes= ), the
printer queue will turn again into the "not ready"
state bef= ore it finishes and the cron daemon will
restart the cups daemon and I= that user will have
3 or more copies of the same report.

Can anybody lend me a hand? We were working with=
SuSE 8.0 before and this didn't happen. I have this
problem since = the upgrade to 9.1

I think that the "Job P= ersistence" feature of cups is, in
part, cause of my problem. Do you k= now how to disable it?
I will appreciate any help anyone can give to m= e.

Thanks a lot in advance,

&n= bsp;

Martin Schwarzkopf
mschwarzkopf@terra.com
<= /DIV>

=0A_______________________= ____________________________
=0A=A1Sobre autos lo sabemos todo, y te p= odemos ayudar!
=0AYa sea para comprar, vender o comparar autos, entra = en el canal de autos de Terra.com
=0ATe aconsejamos, te informamos y t= e mostramos todo lo que necesitas saber.
=0Ahttp://www.terra.com/autos --_=__=_XaM3_.1101108463.2A.516141.42.27830.52.42.007.1000241886-- From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Nov 22 13:00:49 2004 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA27304 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id iAMI0hb21362 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:00:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:58:36 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id iAMHvfM21227 for ipp-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:57:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from xnmsrelay1.terra.com (xnmsrelay2.terra.com [206.221.206.68]) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with ESMTP id iAMHvY921223 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from xnmsmtp4.terra.com (unknown [10.20.18.123]) by xnmsrelay1.terra.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0989E805B; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from terra.com (unknown [206.221.206.73]) by xnmsmtp4.terra.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF3B6C2A5; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:56:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:57:38 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Re:FW: IPP> CUPS printer "is not ready" -- how to make it ready? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=__=_XaM3_.1101146258.2A.171107.42.3981.52.42.007.458404352" From: "Martin Schwarzkopf" To: "ipp" To: "imcdonald" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B8) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 200.78.84.18 Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org --_=__=_XaM3_.1101146258.2A.171107.42.3981.52.42.007.458404352 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ira, All of them are parallel printers. The configuration I = have in both sides, server and client, is very simple. Please tell me = if you need to know anything else. Regards and thanks in advance, =0D = Martin. /etc/cups/printers.conf (server side - extract): Info Epson FX-890 Location Rose Kellner (rkellner - IPP) Devi= ceURI ipp://rkellner.neukont.com/printers/lp State Idle Accepting Yes=0D = JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 =0D = /etc/cups/printers.conf (client side): Info= EPSON FX-890 (filtered) Location Rose Kellner (rkellner) DeviceURI par= allel:/dev/lp0 State Idle Accepting Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeri= od 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 Info EPSON FX-890 = (raw) Location Rose Kellner (rkellner) DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0 Sta= te Idle Accepting Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0=0D = KLimit 0 De:"McDonald, Ira" imcdonald@sharplabs.com =0D = Para:"'Mike Sweet'" mike@easysw.com,"McDonald, Ira" imcdonald@sharplabs.c= om,"'Martin Schwarzkopf'" mschwarzkopf@terra.com Copia: Fecha:Mon, = 22 Nov 2004 08:49:50 -0800 Asunto:FW: IPP> CUPS printer "is not ready"= -- how to make it ready? > Hi Martin, > > I'm forwarding you= r question directly to Michael Sweet > (principal author of CUPS), for = his comments. > > You might also want to visit the CUPS Support link:=0D = > > http://www.cups.org/support.php > > The IPP WG mailing list is r= eally the wrong place for > CUPS support questions. > > Cheers, > - = Ira > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Blue Roof Musi= c / High North Inc > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 > phone: +1-906-= 494-2434 > email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com > > > -----Original Messa= ge----- > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org]On Behalf Of= Martin > Schwarzkopf > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:28 AM > To: = ipp > Subject: IPP> CUPS printer "is not ready" -- how to make it ready?= > Importance: High > > > Perhaps this is a little long to explain = but I need > to do it this way so you can have a complete idea of > my = problem. > > I am in charge of a 25 PC network at the place I work,=0D = > 23 PCs have Linux installed as Operating System and > 2 of them have W= indows XP. The server is also a Linux > box running an application made = in Cobol. All the > Linux boxes have SuSE Linux 9.1. > > We have arou= nd a dozen matrix printers (Epson FX-890) > connected to some linux stat= ions and a laser printer > (HP LaserJet 1300) connected to one of the wi= ndows PCs. > > All the PCs connect to the Linux server through a ssh=0D = > session. > > At the Linux Server, all the printers (Linux and Window= s) > are declared as remote raw printers so that the users > can print = from the Cobol application. > > This server application sends pure tex= t to the remote > printers. At the server, the remote queues are declare= d > as with CUPS at the Linux PCs and with SMB at the > windows one.=0D = > > Each Linux workstation printer has 2 queues defined. > One raw que= ue called "lp" to receive the jobs sent > by the server and one filtered= queue for the local > printing (usually jobs from OpenOffice). This que= ue > is usually named according to the labour of the user > (sales5, cr= edit2, control1, etc) > > The laser printer connected to the Windows P= C works > fine. ALWAYS. The matrix printers work only perfectly > when = the user sends a local print job (OpenOffice, > Mozilla, Gimp, etc). The= problem is that when the > server sends a raw print job to the remote q= ueues, > frecuently, the printer status turns to "Printer is > not read= y" without any reason. This happens more or > less after 3 or 4 print jo= bs sent to same remote > queue. > > Sometimes the queue looks empty, = and some others don't. > The strange thing is that the user gets a compl= ete and > normally printed job, but when the printer turns to the > "Pr= inter is not ready" state, even when the report seems > to be finished, = sometimes it still appears in the queue. > > The only way I found to s= olve this, was creating a > script to modify the /etc/cups/printers.conf= file > to turn it to "Printer IS ready" and to restart the > daemon. (= CUPS 1.1). This script checks the queue > every minute. > > It doesnt= matter if the jobs was still appearing in > the queue, if the printer t= urned to the "is not ready" > state, it will be printed again when I res= tart the > daemon!!! So, if the user is printing numbered > invoices or= in a different kind of paper, they waste > resources ans time. > > I= f the report is quite long (3 or more minutes), the > printer queue will= turn again into the "not ready" > state before it finishes and the cron= daemon will > restart the cups daemon and I that user will have > 3 or= more copies of the same report. > > Can anybody lend me a hand? We we= re working with > SuSE 8.0 before and this didn't happen. I have this=0D = > problem since the upgrade to 9.1 > > I think that the "Job Persisten= ce" feature of cups is, in > part, cause of my problem. Do you know how = to disable it? > I will appreciate any help anyone can give to me. > =0D = > Thanks a lot in advance, > > Martin Schwarzkopf > mschwarzkopf@terr= a.com > > > > > ________________________________________________= ___ > =A1Sobre autos lo sabemos todo, y te podemos ayudar! > Ya sea par= a comprar, vender o comparar autos, entra en el canal de autos de > Terr= a.com > Te aconsejamos, te informamos y te mostramos todo lo que necesit= as saber. > http://www.terra.com/autos=0A_______________________________= ____________________=0A=A1Sobre autos lo sabemos todo, y te podemos ayuda= r!=0AYa sea para comprar, vender o comparar autos, entra en el canal de a= utos de Terra.com=0ATe aconsejamos, te informamos y te mostramos todo lo = que necesitas saber.=0Ahttp://www.terra.com/autos --_=__=_XaM3_.1101146258.2A.171107.42.3981.52.42.007.458404352 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Ira,

All of them ar= e parallel printers. The configuration
I have in both sides, server an= d client, is very simple.

Please tell me if you need= to know anything else.

Regards and thanks= in advance,

Martin.

/etc/cups/printers.conf (server side - extra= ct):

<Printer sales1>
Info Epson = FX-890
Location Rose Kellner (rkellner - IPP)
DeviceURI ipp://rkell= ner.neukont.com/printers/lp
State Idle
Accepting Yes
JobSheets n= one none
QuotaPeriod 0
PageLimit 0
KLimit 0
</Printer><= /DIV>

/etc/cups/printers.conf (client side):=

<DefaultPrinter sales1>
Info EPS= ON FX-890 (filtered)
Location Rose Kellner (rkellner)
DeviceURI par= allel:/dev/lp0
State Idle
Accepting Yes
JobSheets none none
Q= uotaPeriod 0
PageLimit 0
KLimit 0
</Printer>

&= lt;Printer lp>
Info EPSON FX-890 (raw)
Location Rose Kellner (rk= ellner)
DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0
State Idle
Accepting Yes
= JobSheets none none
QuotaPeriod 0
PageLimit 0
KLimit 0
</P= rinter>

De:

"McDonald, Ira" imcdonald@sharplabs.com

Para:

"'Mike Sweet'" mike= @easysw.com,"McDonald, Ira" imcdonald@sharplabs.com,"'Martin Schwarzkopf'= " mschwarzkopf@terra.com

=0D = =0D =

Copia:

Fecha:

M= on, 22 Nov 2004 08:49:50 -0800

Asunto:

FW: IPP> CUPS printe= r "is not ready" -- how to make it ready?

> Hi Martin,

> I'm forwarding your = question directly to Michael Sweet

> (principal author of= CUPS), for his comments.

> You might al= so want to visit the CUPS Support link:

>= ; http://www.cups.org/support.php

> The = IPP WG mailing list is really the wrong place for

> CUPS s= upport questions.

> Cheers,

= > - Ira

> Ira McDonald (Musician / So= ftware Architect)

> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc

> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839

> phone: +1-= 906-494-2434

> email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

= >

> -----Original Message-----

> From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org]On Behalf O= f Martin

> Schwarzkopf

> Sent: Monday, Nove= mber 22, 2004 2:28 AM

> To: ipp

> Subject: = IPP> CUPS printer "is not ready" -- how to make it ready?

= > Importance: High

>= ; Perhaps this is a little long to explain but I need

> to= do it this way so you can have a complete idea of

> my pr= oblem.

> I am in charge of a 25 PC netwo= rk at the place I work,

> 23 PCs have Linux installed as O= perating System and

> 2 of them have Windows XP. The serve= r is also a Linux

> box running an application made in Cob= ol. All the

> Linux boxes have SuSE Linux 9.1.

> We have around a dozen matrix printers (Epson FX-= 890)

> connected to some linux stations and a laser printe= r

> (HP LaserJet 1300) connected to one of the windows PCs= .

> All the PCs connect to the Linux ser= ver through a ssh

> session.

> At the Linux Server, all the printers (Linux and Windows)

> are declared as remote raw printers so that the users

> can print from the Cobol application.

> This server application sends pure text to the remote

&= gt; printers. At the server, the remote queues are declared

&= gt; as with CUPS at the Linux PCs and with SMB at the

> wi= ndows one.

> Each Linux workstation prin= ter has 2 queues defined.

> One raw queue called "lp" to r= eceive the jobs sent

> by the server and one filtered queu= e for the local

> printing (usually jobs from OpenOffice).= This queue

> is usually named according to the labour of = the user

> (sales5, credit2, control1, etc)

&g= t;

> The laser printer connected to the Windows PC works<= /DIV>

> fine. ALWAYS. The matrix printers work only perfectly

> when the user sends a local print job (OpenOffice,

=0D =

> Mozilla, Gimp, etc). The problem is that when the

&= gt; server sends a raw print job to the remote queues,

> f= recuently, the printer status turns to "Printer is

> not r= eady" without any reason. This happens more or

> less afte= r 3 or 4 print jobs sent to same remote

> queue.

> Sometimes the queue looks empty, and some other= s don't.

> The strange thing is that the user gets a compl= ete and

> normally printed job, but when the printer turns= to the

> "Printer is not ready" state, even when the repo= rt seems

> to be finished, sometimes it still appears in t= he queue.

> The only way I found to solv= e this, was creating a

> script to modify the /etc/cups/pr= inters.conf file

> to turn it to "Printer IS ready" and to= restart the

> daemon. (CUPS 1.1). This script checks the = queue

> every minute.

> I= t doesnt matter if the jobs was still appearing in

> the q= ueue, if the printer turned to the "is not ready"

> state,= it will be printed again when I restart the

> daemon!!! S= o, if the user is printing numbered

> invoices or in a dif= ferent kind of paper, they waste

> resources ans time.

> If the report is quite long (3 or more mi= nutes), the

> printer queue will turn again into the "not = ready"

> state before it finishes and the cron daemon will=

> restart the cups daemon and I that user will have

> 3 or more copies of the same report.

=0D =

> Can anybody lend me a hand? We were working with

&g= t; SuSE 8.0 before and this didn't happen. I have this

> p= roblem since the upgrade to 9.1

> I thin= k that the "Job Persistence" feature of cups is, in

> part= , cause of my problem. Do you know how to disable it?

> I = will appreciate any help anyone can give to me.

=0D =

> Thanks a lot in advance,

> Mar= tin Schwarzkopf

> mschwarzkopf@terra.com

> =

> _= __________________________________________________

> =A1So= bre autos lo sabemos todo, y te podemos ayudar!

> Ya sea p= ara comprar, vender o comparar autos, entra en el canal de autos de

> Terra.com

> Te aconsejamos, te informamos y te= mostramos todo lo que necesitas saber.

> http://www.terra= .com/autos

=0A____________________________________________= _______
=0A=A1Sobre autos lo sabemos todo, y te podemos ayudar!
=0A= Ya sea para comprar, vender o comparar autos, entra en el canal de autos = de Terra.com
=0ATe aconsejamos, te informamos y te mostramos todo lo q= ue necesitas saber.
=0Ahttp://w= ww.terra.com/autos --_=__=_XaM3_.1101146258.2A.171107.42.3981.52.42.007.458404352-- From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Nov 22 16:55:22 2004 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA25477 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:55:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id iAMLtGS23993 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:53:49 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id iAMLqrF23861 for ipp-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:52:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from sharplabs.com (keymaster.sharplabs.com [216.65.151.107]) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with ESMTP id iAMLqkD23857 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from admsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com (admsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com [172.29.225.253]) by sharplabs.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAMLqMkD015639; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:52:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by admsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:52:31 -0800 Message-ID: From: "McDonald, Ira" To: "'Martin Schwarzkopf'" , ipp , "McDonald, Ira" , "'Mike Sweet'" Subject: RE: Re:FW: IPP> CUPS printer "is not ready" -- how to make it rea dy? Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:52:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi Martin, Please direct your questions to Michael Sweet (copied again above). I don't know any about support for CUPS. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Blue Roof Music / High North Inc PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 phone: +1-906-494-2434 email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com -----Original Message----- From: Martin Schwarzkopf [mailto:mschwarzkopf@terra.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 12:58 PM To: ipp; imcdonald Subject: Re: Re:FW: IPP> CUPS printer "is not ready" -- how to make it ready? Importance: High Thanks Ira, All of them are parallel printers. The configuration I have in both sides, server and client, is very simple. Please tell me if you need to know anything else. Regards and thanks in advance, Martin. /etc/cups/printers.conf (server side - extract): Info Epson FX-890 Location Rose Kellner (rkellner - IPP) DeviceURI ipp://rkellner.neukont.com/printers/lp State Idle Accepting Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 /etc/cups/printers.conf (client side): Info EPSON FX-890 (filtered) Location Rose Kellner (rkellner) DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0 State Idle Accepting Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 Info EPSON FX-890 (raw) Location Rose Kellner (rkellner) DeviceURI parallel:/dev/lp0 State Idle Accepting Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 De:"McDonald, Ira" imcdonald@sharplabs.com Para:"'Mike Sweet'" mike@easysw.com,"McDonald, Ira" imcdonald@sharplabs.com,"'Martin Schwarzkopf'" mschwarzkopf@terra.com Copia: Fecha:Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:49:50 -0800 Asunto:FW: IPP> CUPS printer "is not ready" -- how to make it ready? > Hi Martin, > > I'm forwarding your question directly to Michael Sweet > (principal author of CUPS), for his comments. > > You might also want to visit the CUPS Support link: > > http://www.cups.org/support.php > > The IPP WG mailing list is really the wrong place for > CUPS support questions. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 > phone: +1-906-494-2434 > email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org]On Behalf Of Martin > Schwarzkopf > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:28 AM > To: ipp > Subject: IPP> CUPS printer "is not ready" -- how to make it ready? > Importance: High > > > Perhaps this is a little long to explain but I need > to do it this way so you can have a complete idea of > my problem. > > I am in charge of a 25 PC network at the place I work, > 23 PCs have Linux installed as Operating System and > 2 of them have Windows XP. The server is also a Linux > box running an application made in Cobol. All the > Linux boxes have SuSE Linux 9.1. > > We have around a dozen matrix printers (Epson FX-890) > connected to some linux stations and a laser printer > (HP LaserJet 1300) connected to one of the windows PCs. > > All the PCs connect to the Linux server through a ssh > session. > > At the Linux Server, all the printers (Linux and Windows) > are declared as remote raw printers so that the users > can print from the Cobol application. > > This server application sends pure text to the remote > printers. At the server, the remote queues are declared > as with CUPS at the Linux PCs and with SMB at the > windows one. > > Each Linux workstation printer has 2 queues defined. > One raw queue called "lp" to receive the jobs sent > by the server and one filtered queue for the local > printing (usually jobs from OpenOffice). This queue > is usually named according to the labour of the user > (sales5, credit2, control1, etc) > > The laser printer connected to the Windows PC works > fine. ALWAYS. The matrix printers work only perfectly > when the user sends a local print job (OpenOffice, > Mozilla, Gimp, etc). The problem is that when the > server sends a raw print job to the remote queues, > frecuently, the printer status turns to "Printer is > not ready" without any reason. This happens more or > less after 3 or 4 print jobs sent to same remote > queue. > > Sometimes the queue looks empty, and some others don't. > The strange thing is that the user gets a complete and > normally printed job, but when the printer turns to the > "Printer is not ready" state, even when the report seems > to be finished, sometimes it still appears in the queue. > > The only way I found to solve this, was creating a > script to modify the /etc/cups/printers.conf file > to turn it to "Printer IS ready" and to restart the > daemon. (CUPS 1.1). This script checks the queue > every minute. > > It doesnt matter if the jobs was still appearing in > the queue, if the printer turned to the "is not ready" > state, it will be printed again when I restart the > daemon!!! So, if the user is printing numbered > invoices or in a different kind of paper, they waste > resources ans time. > > If the report is quite long (3 or more minutes), the > printer queue will turn again into the "not ready" > state before it finishes and the cron daemon will > restart the cups daemon and I that user will have > 3 or more copies of the same report. > > Can anybody lend me a hand? We were working with > SuSE 8.0 before and this didn't happen. I have this > problem since the upgrade to 9.1 > > I think that the "Job Persistence" feature of cups is, in > part, cause of my problem. Do you know how to disable it? > I will appreciate any help anyone can give to me. > > Thanks a lot in advance, > > Martin Schwarzkopf > mschwarzkopf@terra.com > > > > > ___________________________________________________ > ¡Sobre autos lo sabemos todo, y te podemos ayudar! > Ya sea para comprar, vender o comparar autos, entra en el canal de autos de > Terra.com > Te aconsejamos, te informamos y te mostramos todo lo que necesitas saber. > http://www.terra.com/autos ___________________________________________________ ¡Sobre autos lo sabemos todo, y te podemos ayudar! Ya sea para comprar, vender o comparar autos, entra en el canal de autos de Terra.com Te aconsejamos, te informamos y te mostramos todo lo que necesitas saber. http://www.terra.com/autos From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Mon Nov 22 18:11:45 2004 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA04123; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id iAMNBih26195; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:09:32 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id iAMN9NI25887 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:09:23 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> San Antonio receipts Cc: susan.nordell@ieee-isto.org To: Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:09:19 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 6.51HF338 | June 21, 2004) at 11/22/2004 16:09:20, Serialize complete at 11/22/2004 16:09:20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007F050687256F54_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007F050687256F54_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" You should be receiving your receipt by e-mail for meeting fees if you attended the San Antonio meeting. There is a glitch in the generation of these receipts in that they do not itemize the days you attended and also they seem to have extraneous information attached (random receipts from the Montreal meeting!). The ISTO is migrating some of their systems which has caused this glitch. While the receipts may look odd, the billing is still accurate. ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ---------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 007F050687256F54_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
You should be receiving your receipt by e-mail for meeting fees if you attended the San Antonio meeting. There is a glitch in the generation of these receipts in that they do not itemize the days you attended and also they seem to have extraneous information attached (random receipts from the Montreal meeting!). The ISTO is migrating some of their systems which has caused this glitch. While the receipts may look odd, the billing is still accurate.
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Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
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The minutes from the November 17, &n= bsp;2004 PWG Plenary Meeting are now on the PWG's ftp site at:

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Thanks to Lee Farrell for taking the= minutes...

Jerry Thrasher

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