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All,

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The newly approved PWG Candidate Standard "MFD Model and Common
Semantics" [PWG 5108.1-2011] is posted on the PWG server at:

<ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-sm20-mfdmodel10-20110415-5108.1
.pdf>=20

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it's also listed on the PWG standards web page with the Abstract at:

< http://www.pwg.org/standards.html>=20

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The MFD Working group page has been updated with the approved
specification and includes links to the associated schema and the
official namespace.  The MFD page is available at:

<http://www.pwg.org/mfd>=20

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Peter Zehler

Chair of PWG's MFD Working Group

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Peter Zehler

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Voice: (585) 265-8755
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Ok, I'll wander in from the peanut gallery and probably expose my
ignorance.  I've only been following these festivities loosely, but the
posts about total pages and then then the desire for a compressed size
did catch my attention.   Looking over
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf
<ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf>  ,
from a server perspective, it bothers me greatly that it is not possible
to find and extract pages from this format without uncompressing the
images out to the desired page(s).  Yes, the server will probably have
the resources (disk and processor) to accomplish this, but given these
are by definition large files, it seems like a bloody waste.   If this
is to become a widely used format, then ideally, it should be possible
for a server to ingest and send these pages on their way with minimal
overhead, unless the server really has to do some sort of reformatting.
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I see two possibilities to make it easier on servers:
1. chunk the data
2. take a page from the PDF format and write the size of the preceding
image data into a field in the FOLLOWING page header.  This would
require some sort of trailer record on the file.   With this, a server
could run backwards through the file, stepping from header to header and
with low overhead find any desired page in the file.=20=20
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From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of
Petrie, Glen
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 1:33 PM
To: Michael Sweet
Cc: ipp@pwg.org
Subject: RE: [IPP] Requested Additions to PWG Raster



As stated below, I do understand objection to adding the field.  I would
to hear from other PWG members on the addition of these fields.

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Glen

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From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com]=20
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 10:20 AM
To: Petrie, Glen
Cc: ipp@pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] Requested Additions to PWG Raster

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On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Petrie, Glen wrote:

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	[gwp] The important case is the size of the compressed raster
data. The decompressed size is recorded only if the raster is
uncompressed.

	[gwp] I agree that some (a few or a lot) of implementation may
not provide the information but as I said, I am requesting that the
assignment be made and those who can (want to) may record the size
information.

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It really isn't a matter of "may not provide", in most cases clients
(and printers) simply can't buffer hundreds of megabytes of raster data.
I can add the field, but since most producers of PWG Raster will not be
able to supply the compressed size of the raster no printer will be able
to depend on it anyways, so IMHO it is best to have the printer, if it
is going to do any local processing of full page images, use its own
optimal internal storage format than try to gerry-rig something into the
format that just won't work.

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[gwp] As I stated in my original request, I am not worried about the
printer, it will accept the streaming input just fine.  I want the size
information for navigation of a many page raster without having to
decompress pages in a serial manor.   I am not jerry-rigging anything.
I do not understand your comment "that just won't work".  It works fine.
In fact, I wrote a routine that will find the size-only of compressed
page by running the compression routine without storing the compressed
data.  I don't understand your objection to assigning the field.

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	I would actually prefer to flag the file as version 3 which is
an uncompressed CUPS Raster with the version 2 page header. And in the
case of local processing, you'll likely want to use native word order
(another feature of CUPS Raster that we are not bringing along for PWG
Raster...)

=09=20

	[gwp] Do you mean big/little-endian?  I am nothing requesting
the word ordering flag (value) be used.  The current specification is
ok.

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My main point was that if you are concerned about having a standard
representation for intermediate data, CUPS Raster already provides that.
If you are trying to tweak PWG Raster for use as an internal
representation format then I'd rather not put that in the standard since
internal formats are OOS for any PWG standard.





Would it be sufficient to document an uncompressed version of PWG Raster
(with the "RAS3" file header) and then mark the native word order
support as out-of-scope for the spec but something that might be used
internally?

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[gwp] I believe the RAS3 is for the entire PWG Raster file.  I am
requesting a flags (value) for individual pages.=20=20

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Since the format does not support this, I would be opposed to adding
something that would be used only for an internal representation of a
PWG Raster file.

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[gwp] Again, I do not understand your objection.=20

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Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair

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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D202482817-25042011><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Ok, I'll wander in from the peanut gallery and pro=
bably=20
expose my ignorance.&nbsp; I've only been following these festivities loose=
ly,=20
but the posts about total pages and then then the desire for a compressed s=
ize=20
did catch my attention.&nbsp;&nbsp; Looking over <A=20
title=3Dftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(51,51,255)"=20
href=3D"ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf"=
=20
target=3D_blank><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf</=
FONT></A>&nbsp;,&nbsp;from=20
a server perspective, it bothers me greatly&nbsp;that it is not possible to=
 find=20
and extract pages from this format without uncompressing the images out to =
the=20
desired page(s).&nbsp; Yes, the server will probably have the resources (di=
sk=20
and processor) to accomplish this, but given these are by definition large=
=20
files, it seems like a bloody waste.&nbsp;&nbsp; If this is to become a wid=
ely=20
used format, then ideally, it should be possible for a server to ingest and=
 send=20
these pages on their way with minimal overhead, unless the server really ha=
s to=20
do some sort of reformatting.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D202482817-25042011><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D202482817-25042011><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I see two possibilities to make it easier on=20
servers:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D202482817-25042011><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>1. chunk the data</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D202482817-25042011><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>2. take a page from the PDF format and write the s=
ize of=20
the preceding image data into a field in the&nbsp;FOLLOWING=20
page&nbsp;header.&nbsp; This would require some sort of trailer record on t=
he=20
file.&nbsp;&nbsp; With this,&nbsp;a server could run backwards through the =
file,=20
stepping from header to header and with low overhead find any desired page =
in=20
the file.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D202482817-25042011><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D202482817-25042011><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>My humble $.02</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D202482817-25042011><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D202482817-25042011><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Rich</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D202482817-25042011><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D202482817-25042011><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><FONT size=3D2>Richard B. Gray<BR>Senior Software=
=20
Engineer<BR>Plus Technologies LLC<BR>444 Alexandersville Road<BR>Miamisburg=
, OH=20
45342-3568<BR>+1 937-847-0614 ext. 2405<BR>+1 937-384-0842 fax<BR>877-899-7=
587=20
toll=20
free<BR>rgray@plustechnologies.com<BR>www.plustechnologies.com<BR></DIV></F=
ONT></FONT></SPAN><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#00=
00ff=20
size=3D2></FONT><BR>
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<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> ipp-bounces@pwg.org=20
[mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Petrie, Glen<BR><B>Sent:</=
B>=20
Friday, April 22, 2011 1:33 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Michael Sweet<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
ipp@pwg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [IPP] Requested Additions to PWG=20
Raster<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCambria color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Cambria">As stated belo=
w, I do=20
understand objection to adding the field. &nbsp;I would to hear from other =
PWG=20
members on the addition of these fields.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCambria color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Cambria"><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCambria color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Cambria">Glen<o:p></o:p=
></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCambria color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Cambria"><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCambria color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Cambria"><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<HR tabIndex=3D-1 align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D2>
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SP=
AN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"=
> Michael=20
Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com] <BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, April 22, 2011 10:20=
=20
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Petrie, Glen<BR><=
B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> ipp@pwg.org<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [IPP] Requested Additio=
ns to=20
PWG Raster</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Petrie, Glen=20
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type=3D"cite"><SP=
AN=20
  style=3D"WORD-SPACING: 0px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-border-horizon=
tal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decora=
tions-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-=
width: 0px">
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-br=
eak: after-white-space"=20
  link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">...<SPAN class=3Dapple-style-span><FONT color=
=3Dblue><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: blue">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT=
></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCambria color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Cambria">[gwp] The im=
portant=20
  case is the size of the compressed raster data. The decompressed size is=
=20
  recorded only if the raster is=20
  uncompressed.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCambria color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Cambria">[gwp] I agre=
e that=20
  some (a few or a lot) of implementation may not provide the information b=
ut as=20
  I said, I am requesting that the assignment be made and those who can (wa=
nt=20
  to) may record the size=20
  information.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><=
/SPAN>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It really isn't a matter of "may not provide", in=
 most=20
cases clients (and printers) simply can't buffer hundreds of megabytes of r=
aster=20
data. I can add the field, but since most producers of PWG Raster will not =
be=20
able to supply the compressed size of the raster no printer will be able to=
=20
depend on it anyways, so IMHO it is best to have the printer, if it is goin=
g to=20
do any local processing of full page images, use its own optimal internal=
=20
storage format than try to gerry-rig something into the format that just wo=
n't=20
work.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblue size=3D3><=
SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCambria color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Cambria">[gwp] As I sta=
ted in=20
my original request, I am not worried about the printer, it will accept the=
=20
streaming input just fine. &nbsp;I want the size information for navigation=
 of a=20
many page raster without having to decompress pages in a serial manor.=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;I am not jerry-rigging anything.&nbsp; I do not understand your=
=20
comment &#8220;that just won&#8217;t work&#8221;. &nbsp;It works fine.&nbsp=
; In fact, I wrote a=20
routine that will find the size-only of compressed page by running the=20
compression routine without storing the compressed data. &nbsp;I don&#8217;=
t=20
understand your objection to assigning the=20
field.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-br=
eak: after-white-space"=20
  link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3Dapple-style-span><FONT face=3DHelvetic=
a=20
  color=3Dblue size=3D4><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3Dapple-style-span><FONT face=3DHelvetic=
a=20
  color=3Dblack size=3D4><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">...</SP=
AN></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></U1:P>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I would actually prefer to flag the file as ver=
sion 3=20
  which is an uncompressed CUPS Raster with the version 2 page header. And =
in=20
  the case of local processing, you'll likely want to use native word order=
=20
  (another feature of CUPS Raster that we are not bringing along for PWG=20
  Raster...)<U1:P></U1:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblue size=3D3=
><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue"><U1:P>&nbsp;</U1:P></SPAN></FONT><=
o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCambria color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Cambria">[gwp] Do you=
 mean=20
  big/little-endian? &nbsp;I am nothing requesting the word ordering flag=
=20
  (value) be used. &nbsp;The current specification is=20
  ok.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></SPAN>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">My main point was that if you are concerned about=
 having=20
a standard representation for intermediate data, CUPS Raster already provid=
es=20
that. If you are trying to tweak PWG Raster for use as an internal=20
representation format then I'd rather not put that in the standard since=20
internal formats are OOS for any PWG=20
standard.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><SPAN=20
style=3D"WORD-SPACING: 0px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-border-horizonta=
l-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorati=
ons-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-wi=
dth: 0px">
<DIV=20
style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-brea=
k: after-white-space"=20
link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Would it be sufficient to document an uncompresse=
d=20
version of PWG Raster (with the "RAS3" file header) and then mark the nativ=
e=20
word order support as out-of-scope for the spec but something that might be=
 used=20
internally?<U1:P></U1:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCambria color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Cambria"><U1:P>&nbsp;</=
U1:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCambria color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Cambria">[gwp] I believ=
e the=20
RAS3 is for the entire PWG Raster file.&nbsp; I am requesting a flags (valu=
e)=20
for individual pages.=20
&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></SPAN>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Since the format does not support this, I would b=
e=20
opposed to adding something that would be used only for an internal=20
representation of a PWG Raster file.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCambria color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Cambria"><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DCambria color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Cambria">[gwp] Again, I=
 do not=20
understand your objection. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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dth: 0px">
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DHelvetica color=3Dblack size=3D4><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">_________=
_______________________________________________________________<BR>Michael=
=20
Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG=20
Chair<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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All,

I have posted the minutes from today's conference call at:

	ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20110502.pdf

Action items:
Action: Mike to issue new draft of JPS3 with changes accepted up to section 5.5.14
Action: Mike to prepare draft slides for IPP sessions for next concall
Action: Andrew to provide section 4.4 UPNP discovery text (ONGOING - for next F2F)
Action: Mike and Paul to reach out to label/portable printer vendors to join IPP WG discussions (ONGOING - both to send summary to ipp list and details to SC list)
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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">All,<div><br></div><div>I have posted the minutes from today's conference call at:</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20110502.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20110502.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div>Action items:</div><div><ul style="list-style-type: disc">
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On May 2, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Rich Gray wrote:
> Ok, I'll wander in from the peanut gallery and probably expose my ignorance.  I've only been following these festivities loosely, but the posts about total pages and then then the desire for a compressed size did catch my attention.   Looking over ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf , from a server perspective, it bothers me greatly that it is not possible to find and extract pages from this format without uncompressing the images out to the desired page(s).  Yes, the server will probably have the resources (disk and processor) to accomplish this, but given these are by definition large files, it seems like a bloody waste.   If this is to become a widely used format, then ideally, it should be possible for a server to ingest and send these pages on their way with minimal overhead, unless the server really has to do some sort of reformatting.

If you want random access, you'll either want to do reformatting or generate an index of the PWG Raster file. Any server will be able to rapidly index a raster file...

(and keep in mind that a server will likely advertise support for a higher-level format like PDF anyways, so the client will likely supply that instead of PWG Raster...)

> I see two possibilities to make it easier on servers:
>  
> 1. chunk the data

Since we are not trying to define a new format, this isn't an option.

> 2. take a page from the PDF format and write the size of the preceding image data into a field in the FOLLOWING page header.  This would require some sort of trailer record on the file.   With this, a server could run backwards through the file, stepping from header to header and with low overhead find any desired page in the file.

Since CUPS Raster (the base format we are using for PWG Raster) does not have a trailer, we have no opportunity to do this, either.

__________________________________________________
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I was looking some of the PWGR images you provided.  I expected the
sgray-8 to have 8 bits/color and 8 bits/pixel but the file shows 24
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I had downloaded the sample PWGRaster files from:
http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples.zip, with your
latest working draft of the PWG raster found at:
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf. I
compared the raster files in the folders:

PWGRasterSamples\srgb-16  &

PWGRasterSamples\srgb-8, with the specs given in the draft document.

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I found that neither of the directories contained files that adhered to
the draft document w.r.t parsing the header. Specifically for the value
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According to the draft document, bytes 420-423 need to contain
'NumColors' value, however, I found them to be zero. Are the sample
files outdated??

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Based on the decode algorithm given in the draft document, I had tried
to obtain plain RGB raster data from a pwg-raster file. I had converted
the PDF document obtained here:
http://orenyomtov.com/downloads/testpage.pdf to obtain pwg-raster file
using Google cloud print. I am able to get the pwg-raster file from GCP
successfully. However, on converting the pwg-raster file to RGB data,  I
have been successful in decoding around 1/6th or so, to raster data
successfully, i.e. the top part of the page is being rendered
successfully, while the rest is not rendered.

(I use GIMP to open the output raster file in RAW mode).

I have attached a screenshot of the output file that I'm able to view
through GIMP (scaled down version).

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Is my algorithm wrong? Or are the specs incorrect?

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DCambria><span style=
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you provided. &nbsp;I expected the sgray-8 to have 8 bits/color and 8 bits/=
pixel
but the file shows 24 bits/pixel. &nbsp;Which is correct?<o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DCambria><span style=
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12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DCambria><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-si=
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face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] <b><span style=3D'font-wei=
ght:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roy Samuel<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 28, 20=
11
9:47 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ipp@pwg.org; Michael Swe=
et<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [IPP] Question on P=
WG
draft specification mismatch &amp; parsing</span></font><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'>Hi
Michael,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'>I
had downloaded the sample PWGRaster files from: <a
href=3D"http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples.zip">http:=
//ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples.zip</a>,
with your latest working draft of the PWG raster found at: <a
href=3D"ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf">f=
tp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf</a>.
I compared the raster files in the folders:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'>PWGRasterSamples\srgb-16&nbsp;
&amp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'>PWGRasterSamples\srgb-8,
with the specs given in the draft document.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'>I
found that neither of the directories contained files that adhered to the d=
raft
document w.r.t parsing the header. Specifically for the value of
&#8216;NumColors&#8217;. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'>--1--<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'>According
to the draft document, bytes 420-423 need to contain &#8216;NumColors&#8217;
value, however, I found them to be zero. Are the sample files outdated??<o:=
p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'>--2--<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'>Based
on the decode algorithm given in the draft document, I had tried to obtain
plain RGB raster data from a pwg-raster file. I had converted the PDF docum=
ent
obtained here: <a href=3D"http://orenyomtov.com/downloads/testpage.pdf">htt=
p://orenyomtov.com/downloads/testpage.pdf</a>
to obtain pwg-raster file using Google cloud print. I am able to get the pw=
g-raster
file from GCP successfully. However, on converting the pwg-raster file to R=
GB
data, &nbsp;I have been successful in decoding around 1/6<sup>th</sup> or s=
o,
to raster data successfully, i.e. the top part of the page is being rendered
successfully, while the rest is not rendered.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
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use GIMP to open the output raster file in RAW mode).<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'>I
have attached a screenshot of the output file that I&#8217;m able to view
through GIMP (scaled down version).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt'>Is
my algorithm wrong? Or are the specs incorrect?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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It should be 8-bits per pixel. I'm working on regenerating the files...

On May 4, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:

> I was looking some of the PWGR images you provided.  I expected the sgray=
-8 to have 8 bits/color and 8 bits/pixel but the file shows 24 bits/pixel. =
 Which is correct?
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> Hi Michael,
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> I had downloaded the sample PWGRaster files from:http://ftp.easysw.com/pu=
b/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples.zip, with your latest working draft of the=
 PWG raster found at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110=
327-rev.pdf. I compared the raster files in the folders:
> PWGRasterSamples\srgb-16  &
> PWGRasterSamples\srgb-8, with the specs given in the draft document.
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=91NumColors=92.
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> According to the draft document, bytes 420-423 need to contain =91NumColo=
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d??
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> Based on the decode algorithm given in the draft document, I had tried to=
 obtain plain RGB raster data from a pwg-raster file. I had converted the P=
DF document obtained here:http://orenyomtov.com/downloads/testpage.pdf to o=
btain pwg-raster file using Google cloud print. I am able to get the pwg-ra=
ster file from GCP successfully. However, on converting the pwg-raster file=
 to RGB data,  I have been successful in decoding around 1/6th or so, to ra=
ster data successfully, i.e. the top part of the page is being rendered suc=
cessfully, while the rest is not rendered.
> (I use GIMP to open the output raster file in RAW mode).
> I have attached a screenshot of the output file that I=92m able to view t=
hrough GIMP (scaled down version).
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iv><br><div><div>On May 4, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:</div><br =
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bri; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; ">=
I had downloaded the sample PWGRaster files from:<a href=3D"http://ftp.easy=
sw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples.zip" style=3D"color: blue; text-d=
ecoration: underline; ">http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSa=
mples.zip</a>, with your latest working draft of the PWG raster found at:<s=
pan class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"ftp://ftp.pwg.o=
rg/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf" style=3D"color: blue; te=
xt-decoration: underline; ">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10=
-20110327-rev.pdf</a>. I compared the raster files in the folders:<o:p></o:=
p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; mar=
gin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; ">P=
WGRasterSamples\srgb-16&nbsp; &amp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div styl=
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Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; ">PWGRasterSamples\srgb-8, with th=
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"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font>=
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argin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; "><font size=
=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; ">I found that neit=
her of the directories contained files that adhered to the draft document w=
.r.t parsing the header. Specifically for the value of =91NumColors=92.<o:p=
></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in=
; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
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; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; mar=
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ont-size: 11pt; ">--1--<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-=
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t-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 11pt; ">According to the draft document, bytes 420-4=
23 need to contain =91NumColors=92 value, however, I found them to be zero.=
 Are the sample files outdated??<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style=
=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.=
0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; "><font size=3D"2" face=3D"C=
alibri"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></=
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=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; ">--2--<o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin=
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d on the decode algorithm given in the draft document, I had tried to obtai=
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[This is a REMINDER for all of you that haven't yet gone to the survey page...]

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NOTE: This meeting is 4 days long to accommodate the amount of material we have to discuss.

This page will be updated with document links as the material becomes available.

Please visit the February 2011 survey page and indicate whether you plan to participate in person or call in:

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Hi Michael,

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Thanks for your reply.=20

I have been able to parse the PWG-raster file successfully to obtain
plain RGB data - but only from the one, present in the directory
"PWGRasterSamples" obtained from :
http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples.zip

The specific PWG raster file used is : "img_6461.jpg-srgb-8-150dpi.pwg"

I was able to write the parser based on the specifications described in
the PWG draft document.

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I tried using "Rasterview" from http://www.easysw.com/~mike/rasterview/
running on Ubuntu 10.10, to open the file mentioned above,
"img_6461.jpg-srgb-8-150dpi.pwg". I received an error, "Unable to read
page data: Resource temporarily unavailable"

Using the tools/maketestfiles.sh, I was able to create a raster file
with magic number, "3SaR" and not "RaS2", which I don't think is a PWG
raster (?). I used the pstoraster filter. This generated file opens fine
with RasterView v1.2.1. , FYI.

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I was able to "/fetch" a pwg raster file from Google Cloud Print (GCP),
by creating a print job from a pdf file. (location of pdf file:
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf). I was
not able to open this PWG raster file, with RasterView, nor was I able
to parse this file completely using the parser that was developed based
on PWG draft specifications. (I was able to obtain about 1/6th of the
file converted to RGB data successfully, the rest - was not decoded, and
appeared as '0x00' for the remainder of the raster data.)

=20

Are there different versions of the PWG raster file?

Perhaps GCP is not using the latest PWG specifications?=20

Is RasterView not updated to parse the latest PWG files?

=20

Regards,

Roy Samuel.

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From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 6:02 AM
To: Roy Samuel
Cc: ipp@pwg.org
Subject: Re: Question on PWG draft specification mismatch & parsing

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On Apr 28, 2011, at 9:46 PM, Roy Samuel wrote:

	...

	I found that neither of the directories contained files that
adhered to the draft document w.r.t parsing the header. Specifically for
the value of 'NumColors'.

=09=20

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	According to the draft document, bytes 420-423 need to contain
'NumColors' value, however, I found them to be zero. Are the sample
files outdated??

=20

Not exactly outdated, just the code that generated them (and the page
headers) contains an error. I will post updates next week.

=20

	--2--

	...

	(I use GIMP to open the output raster file in RAW mode).

	I have attached a screenshot of the output file that I'm able to
view through GIMP (scaled down version).

=09=20

	Is my algorithm wrong? Or are the specs incorrect?

=20

I would suspect the former since the compression code that generated the
files has been in use for many years now.

=20

Another tool you can use is RasterView, available here (with source):

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    http://www.easysw.com/~mike/rasterview/

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__________________________________________________

Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair

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l,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0p=
t;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
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bri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your reply. <o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have been able to parse the PWG-raster fil=
e successfully to obtain plain RGB data &#8211; but only from the one, pres=
ent in the directory &#8220;PWGRasterSamples&#8221; obtained from : <a href=
=3D"http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples.zip">http://ft=
p.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples.zip</a><o:p></o:p></span></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri=
","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The specific PWG raster file used is : &#8220=
;img_6461.jpg-srgb-8-150dpi.pwg&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";co=
lor:#1F497D'>I was able to write the parser based on the specifications des=
cribed in the PWG draft document.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#=
1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I tried using &#8220;Rastervie=
w&#8221; from </span><a href=3D"http://www.easysw.com/~mike/rasterview/">ht=
tp://www.easysw.com/~mike/rasterview/</a> <span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>running on Ubuntu 10.10, t=
o open the file mentioned above, &#8220;img_6461.jpg-srgb-8-150dpi.pwg&#822=
1;. I received an error, &#8220;Unable to read page data: Resource temporar=
ily unavailable&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Usi=
ng the tools/maketestfiles.sh, I was able to create a raster file with magi=
c number, &#8220;3SaR&#8221; and not &#8220;RaS2&#8221;, which I don&#8217;=
t think is a PWG raster (?). I used the pstoraster filter. This generated f=
ile opens fine with RasterView v1.2.1. , FYI.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>I was able to &#8220;/fetch&#8221; a pwg raster file from Google Cloud Pri=
nt (GCP), by creating a print job from a pdf file. (location of pdf file: <=
/span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><=
a href=3D"ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf"=
>ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf</a>). </s=
pan><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";colo=
r:#1F497D'>I was not able to open this PWG raster file, with RasterView, no=
r was I able to parse this file completely using the parser that was develo=
ped based on PWG draft specifications. (I was able to obtain about 1/6th of=
 the file converted to RGB data successfully, the rest &#8211; was not deco=
ded, and appeared as &#8216;0x00&#8217; for the remainder of the raster dat=
a.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'>Are there different versions of the PWG raster file?<o:=
p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Perhaps GCP is not using the=
 latest PWG specifications? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Is RasterView not updated to parse the latest PWG files?<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";=
color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ro=
y Samuel.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Michael Sweet [ma=
ilto:msweet@apple.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 01, 2011 6:02 AM<br><b>=
To:</b> Roy Samuel<br><b>Cc:</b> ipp@pwg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Questio=
n on PWG draft specification mismatch &amp; parsing<o:p></o:p></span></p></=
div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMs=
oNormal>On Apr 28, 2011, at 9:46 PM, Roy Samuel wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;font-fa=
mily:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>...</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><=
blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;font-fam=
ily:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I found that neither of the directories contain=
ed files that adhered to the draft document w.r.t parsing the header. Speci=
fically for the value of &#8216;NumColors&#8217;.</span></span><span class=
=3Dapple-style-span><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Andale Mon=
o","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</sp=
an><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>--1--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri","sans-serif"'>According to the draft document, bytes 420-423 need to =
contain &#8216;NumColors&#8217; value, however, I found them to be zero. Ar=
e the sample files outdated??<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
Not exactly outdated, just the code that generated them (and the page heade=
rs) contains an error. I will post updates next week.<o:p></o:p></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span style=3D'font=
-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></span><o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0=
pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>--2--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span style=3D'font-size:11.5pt=
;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>...</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></bloc=
kquote><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span style=3D'font-size:11.5pt=
;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>(I use GIMP to open the output raster =
file in RAW mode).</span></span><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span style=
=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Andale Mono","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I have attached a screenshot of the outpu=
t file that I&#8217;m able to view through GIMP (scaled down version).</spa=
n><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri","sans-serif"'>Is my algorithm wrong? Or are the specs incorrect?<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I would suspect the former since t=
he compression code that generated the files has been in use for many years=
 now.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></=
div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Another tool you can use is RasterView, avail=
able here (with source):<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp; <a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.easysw.com/~mike/rasterview/">http://www.easysw.com/~mike/rasterv=
iew/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p=
></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-=
family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>______________________________=
____________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:b=
lack'>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System&nbsp;Engineer, PWG Chair<o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div>=
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Roy,

I'll look into the issues with RasterView - it is possible I need to update=
 the binaries (they haven't been updated in 4 years) and Ubuntu may not hav=
e updated their CUPS with the latest raster fixes, either...

More comments inline...

On May 4, 2011, at 9:42 PM, Roy Samuel wrote:
> ...
> Using the tools/maketestfiles.sh, I was able to create a raster file with=
 magic number, =933SaR=94 and not =93RaS2=94, which I don=92t think is a PW=
G raster (?). I used the pstoraster filter. This generated file opens fine =
with RasterView v1.2.1. , FYI.

"3SaR" is a version 3 CUPS Raster file in little-endian byte order. The "ma=
ketestfiles.sh" script doesn't have support for generating version 2 CUPS R=
aster files in big-endian byte order, as that requires support in Ghostscri=
pt (patch to be submitted Real Soon Now), cgpdftoraster, or the rastertopwg=
 filter from CUPS 1.5.

I'll see about adding support for that.

> I was able to =93/fetch=94 a pwg raster file from Google Cloud Print (GCP=
), by creating a print job from a pdf file. (location of pdf file:ftp://ftp=
.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf). I was not able to=
 open this PWG raster file, with RasterView, nor was I able to parse this f=
ile completely using the parser that was developed based on PWG draft speci=
fications. (I was able to obtain about 1/6th of the file converted to RGB d=
ata successfully, the rest =96 was not decoded, and appeared as =910x00=92 =
for the remainder of the raster data.)

Again, it could be that RasterView needs to be re-built for the latest Ubun=
tu, perhaps using the latest CUPS raster sources (instead of relying on the=
 system-supplied CUPS).
=20
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> Are there different versions of the PWG raster file?

No, although what shows up in the page header has been changing as we conti=
nue to define/refine the subset.

> Perhaps GCP is not using the latest PWG specifications?

I can't say - Google would be the one to ask specifically about this, but l=
ast time I checked it was working properly (I will see about doing some reg=
ular testing with them...)

________________________________________________________________________
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Roy,<div><br></div><div>I'll look into the issues with RasterView - it is p=
ossible I need to update the binaries (they haven't been updated in 4 years=
) and Ubuntu may not have updated their CUPS with the latest raster fixes, =
either...</div><div><br></div><div>More comments inline...</div><div><br><d=
iv><div>On May 4, 2011, at 9:42 PM, Roy Samuel wrote:</div><blockquote type=
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span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; font-fa=
mily: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: nor=
mal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0p=
x; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing:=
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uto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang=3D"EN-U=
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w Roman', serif; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(31,=
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ools/maketestfiles.sh, I was able to create a raster file with magic number=
, =933SaR=94 and not =93RaS2=94, which I don=92t think is a PWG raster (?).=
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0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family:=
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/span></blockquote><div><br></div>"3SaR" is a version 3 CUPS Raster file in=
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rt for generating version 2 CUPS Raster files in big-endian byte order, as =
that requires support in Ghostscript (patch to be submitted Real Soon Now),=
 cgpdftoraster, or the rastertopwg filter from CUPS 1.5.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>I'll see about adding support for that.</div><div><br><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: sepa=
rate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; fon=
t-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; wor=
d-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vert=
ical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-s=
ize-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div=
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: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I was able to =93/fetch=
=94 a pwg raster file from Google Cloud Print (GCP), by creating a print jo=
b from a pdf file. (location of pdf file:</span><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
1pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><a href=3D"ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/p=
wg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf" style=3D"color: blue; text-decor=
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7-rev.pdf</a>).&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Ca=
libri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I was not able to open this P=
WG raster file, with RasterView, nor was I able to parse this file complete=
ly using the parser that was developed based on PWG draft specifications. (=
I was able to obtain about 1/6th of the file converted to RGB data successf=
ully, the rest =96 was not decoded, and appeared as =910x00=92 for the rema=
inder of the raster data.)</span></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div=
><br></div>Again, it could be that RasterView needs to be re-built for the =
latest Ubuntu, perhaps using the latest CUPS raster sources (instead of rel=
ying on the system-supplied CUPS).</div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-spa=
n" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; ">&nbsp;</sp=
an><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"bord=
er-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-var=
iant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: nor=
mal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: norma=
l; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -w=
ebkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: non=
e; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-siz=
e: medium; "><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=
=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; "><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-siz=
e: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size:=
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re different versions of the PWG raster file?</span></div></div></div></spa=
n></blockquote><div><br></div>No, although what shows up in the page header=
 has been changing as we continue to define/refine the subset.</div><div><b=
r><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"borde=
r-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-vari=
ant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: norm=
al; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal=
; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -we=
bkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none=
; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size=
: medium; "><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=
=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; "><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-siz=
e: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size:=
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o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-b=
ottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New=
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s-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Perhaps GCP is not using the latest PWG=
 specifications?</span></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div=
>I can't say - Google would be the one to ask specifically about this, but =
last time I checked it was working properly (I will see about doing some re=
gular testing with them...)</div><div><br></div><div>
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color:=
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ffect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px=
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All,

I do not see why printer-mandatory-job-attributes is needed.  (It
doesn't even make sense to me.)  I was under the impression that all the
attributes required to be supplied by the client in order to create a
job in IPP are mandatory.  Any remaining attributes are taken from
printer defaults or supplied by the system.  What did I miss?

Pete

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[This PWG Last Call will start today on Monday May 9, 2011.
This PWG Last Call will end Friday June 6, 2011 at 10pm US PDT.]
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This is the formal announcement of the PWG FaxOut Service Semantic Model
and Service Interface specification, which is located at:
<ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/wd-mfdfaxoutmodel10-20110503.pdf>=20
=20
Many of the operations and attributes defined in this document have been
prototyped by Xerox.  The prototype is based on existing protocols such
as ISO 10175, IETF/PWG IPP and Microsoft WSD.  The MFD WG has completed
a working group last call and subsequent revisions of this document.
=20
The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members
must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any
document can progress to PWG Formal Vote.  This PWG Last Call is NOT a
Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment.
=20
Please send your review acknowledgment *exactly* as follows:
=20
To:  mfd at pwg.org <mailto:mfd@pwg.org>=20
Subject:  <Company Name> has reviewed the FaxOut Service Semantic Model
and Service Interface specification and has [no] comments
=20
Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list.
=20
This specification in normatively dependent on the MFD Model and Common
Semantics specification.  As a result this specification is less than 40
pages and consists primarily of figures, tables, and simplified text
that references the MFD Model and Common Semantics specification that
contains the details.  I have also posted a "-rev" version of this
specification for those of you that would like to see what has changed
since the MFD group Last Call.
=20
Note:  The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version
3.0 is located at:
  <http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf>
=20

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Peter Zehler

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Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Aria=
l","sans-serif"'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-famil=
y:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'f=
ont-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>[This PWG Last Call will start today on Mo=
nday <span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>May</span> <span style=3D'color:#1F497D'=
>9</span>, 2011.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif"'>This PWG Last Call will end Friday <span style=3D'color:=
#1F497D'>June</span> <span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>6</span>, 2011 at 10pm U=
S PDT.]<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","san=
s-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif"'>This is the formal announcement of the PWG <span style=
=3D'color:#1F497D'>FaxOut</span> Service Semantic Model and Service Interfa=
ce specification, which is located at:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span st=
yle=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&lt;</span><span sty=
le=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href=3D"ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pw=
g/mfd/wd/wd-mfdfaxoutmodel10-20110503.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd=
/wd-mfdfaxoutmodel10-20110503.pdf</a><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&gt;</sp=
an> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-s=
erif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial=
","sans-serif"'>Many of the operations and attributes defined in this docum=
ent have been prototyped by Xerox.&nbsp; The prototype is based on existing=
 protocols such as ISO 10175, IETF/PWG IPP and Microsoft WSD.&nbsp; The MFD=
 WG has completed a working group last call and subsequent revisions of thi=
s document.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",=
"sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family=
:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of =
PWG voting members must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without commen=
ts), before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote.&nbsp; This PWG La=
st Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment=
.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-seri=
f"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","=
sans-serif"'>Please send your review acknowledgment *exactly* as follows:<o=
:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","san=
s-serif"'>To:&nbsp; <a href=3D"mailto:mfd@pwg.org">mfd at pwg.org</a><o:p><=
/o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sub=
ject:&nbsp; &lt;Company Name&gt; has reviewed the </span><span style=3D'fon=
t-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>FaxOut Service Semantic Model and Service I=
nterface specification</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif=
"'> and has [no] comments<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-f=
amily:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=
=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Please do NOT simply reply to this no=
te on the PWG-Announce list.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'fon=
t-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span sty=
le=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This specification in normatively d=
ependent on the MFD Model and Common Semantics specification.&nbsp; As a re=
sult this specification is less than 40 pages and consists primarily of fig=
ures, tables, and simplified text that references the MFD Model and Common =
Semantics specification that contains the details.&nbsp; I have also posted=
 a &#8220;-rev&#8221; version of this specification for those of you that w=
ould like to see what has changed since the MFD group Last Call.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'=
>Note:&nbsp; The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Versio=
n 3.0 is located at:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'font-family=
:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp; &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/chair/membe=
rship_docs/pwg-process30.pdf">http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-=
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eter Zehler</span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><br><br></span><span style=
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search Center Webster<br></span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:Peter.Zehler@Xer=
ox.com">Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</a></span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><br>=
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or:navy'>Voice: (585) 265-8755</span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><br></sp=
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On May 9, 2011, at 4:01 AM, Zehler, Peter wrote:
> All,
> I do not see why printer-mandatory-job-attributes is needed.  (It doesn=
=92t even make sense to me.)  I was under the impression that all the attri=
butes required to be supplied by the client in order to create a job in IPP=
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r supplied by the system.  What did I miss?

The reasoning was that we needed an attribute to tell the client which attr=
ibutes were required for a successful print job, particularly for attribute=
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Hi Andrew,

Samsung is a member of the USB IF (I checked).

I have reviewed the specification and would like to have Samsung
listed on the NWI.

Cheers,
- Ira (Consulting Architect in Samsung Advanced Printing Systems Lab)

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
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On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Mitchell, Andrew (Solutions Architect) <
andrew.mitchell2@hp.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I've uploaded an updated IPP over USB to the white paper directory here:
>
>
> ftp://ftp.pwg.org//pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/draft-ippusbspecification-20110428.pdf
>
> This is most likely the last draft prior to the F2F, and the last draft
> prior to submission to the USB IF, although we can go through this document
> at the F2F. I am currently filling out the NWI (New Work Initiative)
> Application Form for submission to the USB IF. I believe we have the 5 USB
> IF members needed to submit the NWI, but I would like to get as many of the
> PWG members who are on the USB IF as possible listed in the NWI. As such, if
> your company is a member of the USB IF, you have reviewed the current draft
> of the IPP over USB Specification, and you would like to be listed on the
> NWI form, please let me know.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Andrew
>
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Hi Andrew,<br><br>Samsung is a member of the USB IF (I checked).<br><br>I h=
ave reviewed the specification and would like to have Samsung<br>listed on =
the NWI.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira (Consulting Architect in Samsung Advanced =
Printing Systems Lab)<br>
<br clear=3D"all">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - L=
inux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>Co-C=
hair - TCG Hardcopy WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Mitchell=
, Andrew (Solutions Architect) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:andr=
ew.mitchell2@hp.com">andrew.mitchell2@hp.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bloc=
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All,<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve uploaded an updated IPP over USB to the white paper directory here=
:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"ftp://ftp.pwg.org//pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/draft-ippusbspecificat=
ion-20110428.pdf" target=3D"_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org//pub/pwg/ipp/whitepap=
er/draft-ippusbspecification-20110428.pdf</a><br>
<br>
This is most likely the last draft prior to the F2F, and the last draft pri=
or to submission to the USB IF, although we can go through this document at=
 the F2F. I am currently filling out the NWI (New Work Initiative) Applicat=
ion Form for submission to the USB IF. I believe we have the 5 USB IF membe=
rs needed to submit the NWI, but I would like to get as many of the PWG mem=
bers who are on the USB IF as possible listed in the NWI. As such, if your =
company is a member of the USB IF, you have reviewed the current draft of t=
he IPP over USB Specification, and you would like to be listed on the NWI f=
orm, please let me know.<br>

<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
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All,

I've uploaded an updated IPP over USB to the white paper directory here:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org//pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/draft-ippusbspecification-2011042=
8.pdf

This is most likely the last draft prior to the F2F, and the last draft pri=
or to submission to the USB IF, although we can go through this document at=
 the F2F. I am currently filling out the NWI (New Work Initiative) Applicat=
ion Form for submission to the USB IF. I believe we have the 5 USB IF membe=
rs needed to submit the NWI, but I would like to get as many of the PWG mem=
bers who are on the USB IF as possible listed in the NWI. As such, if your =
company is a member of the USB IF, you have reviewed the current draft of t=
he IPP over USB Specification, and you would like to be listed on the NWI f=
orm, please let me know.

Thanks.

Andrew

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A new draft has been posted. Somehow between draft 17 and draft 18 the Scan=
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ding a couple raster formats and trying to make sure they were consistent b=
etween protocols. This has been corrected, and is the ONLY thing changed be=
tween draft 19 and 20. The new draft is here:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org//pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/draft-ippusbspecification-2011051=
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Good thing I was doing a final read through prior to submitting the NWI to =
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Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be on Monday.

  Monday 16 May 1-2pm US PDT / 4-5pm US EDT

  Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

  Attendee Access Code: *******#
  Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.

Live Meeting Info (courtesy of Pete Zehler):

  Link:
https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join?id=PWG_MFD&role=attend&pw=LetMeIn
  URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join
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  Entry Code: LetMeIn

*** Main Objective - Review IPP WG and Cloud Imaging WG slides ***

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
     - Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting
     -
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20110502.pdf

(3) Review IPP WG slides for PWG F2F (Mike)
     - if available

(4) Review Cloud Imaging WG slides for PWG F2F (Mike/Ron)
     - if available

(5) Discussion of IPP Everywhere (Mike/Ira)
     - http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/IPP+Everywhere

(6) Next Steps
     - Use Case BOF at PWG F2F on Tuesday 24 May
     - IPP WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday/Thursday 25-26 May
     - All - Post more use cases to IPP/Cloud Imaging mailing lists

Cheers,
- Ira (IPP WG Co-Chair)

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
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<br>
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*** Main Objective - Review IPP WG and Cloud Imaging WG slides ***<br><br>
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(6) Next Steps<span></span><br>=A0=A0=A0=A0 - Use Case BOF at PWG F2F on Tu=
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Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be on Monday.

  Monday 16 May 10-11am US PDT / 1-2pm US EDT

  Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

  Attendee Access Code: *******#
  Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.

Live Meeting Info (courtesy of Pete Zehler):

  Link:
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  URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join
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*** Main Objective - Review IPP WG and Cloud Imaging WG slides ***

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
     - Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting
     -
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20110502.pdf

(3) Review IPP WG slides for PWG F2F (Mike)
     - if available

(4) Review Cloud Imaging WG slides for PWG F2F (Mike/Ron)
     - if available

(5) Discussion of IPP Everywhere (Mike/Ira)
     - http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/IPP+Everywhere

(6) Next Steps
     - Use Case BOF at PWG F2F on Tuesday 24 May
     - IPP WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday/Thursday 25-26 May
     - All - Post more use cases to IPP/Cloud Imaging mailing lists

Cheers,
- Ira (IPP WG Co-Chair)

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
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<br>(3) Review IPP WG slides for PWG F2F (Mike)<br>
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All,

I have uploaded new slides based on our discussions last Monday at:

	ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/slides/cloud-wd-meeting-may-11d2.pdf

We will give these one more look on Monday in the IPP WG telecon.

________________________________________________________________________
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I have uploaded the IPP and Cloud slides to:

	ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-may-11d1.pdf

	ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/slides/cloud-wg-meeting-may-11d2.pdf

On May 15, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Ira McDonald wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Our next IPP WG call will be on Monday.
> 
>   Monday 16 May 10-11am US PDT / 1-2pm US EDT
> 
>   Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
>   Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
>   Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)
> 
>   Attendee Access Code: *******#
>   Attendee ID Code: # (empty)
> 
> If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.
> 
> Live Meeting Info (courtesy of Pete Zehler):
> 
>   Link: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join?id=PWG_MFD&role=attend&pw=LetMeIn
>   URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join
>   Meeting ID: PWG_MFD
>   Entry Code: LetMeIn
> 
> *** Main Objective - Review IPP WG and Cloud Imaging WG slides ***
> 
> Agenda:
> 
> (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
>      - Mike?
> 
> (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting
>      - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20110502.pdf
> 
> (3) Review IPP WG slides for PWG F2F (Mike)
>      - if available
> 
> (4) Review Cloud Imaging WG slides for PWG F2F (Mike/Ron)
>      - if available
> 
> (5) Discussion of IPP Everywhere (Mike/Ira)
>      - http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/IPP+Everywhere
> 
> (6) Next Steps
>      - Use Case BOF at PWG F2F on Tuesday 24 May
>      - IPP WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday/Thursday 25-26 May
>      - All - Post more use cases to IPP/Cloud Imaging mailing lists
> 
> Cheers,
> - Ira (IPP WG Co-Chair)
> 
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
> Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> Christmas through April:
>   579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176
>   734-944-0094
> May to Christmas:
>   PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839
>   906-494-2434
> 

________________________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I have uploaded the IPP and Cloud slides to:<div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-may-11d1.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-may-11d1.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/slides/cloud-wg-meeting-may-11d2.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/slides/cloud-wg-meeting-may-11d2.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On May 15, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Ira McDonald wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br>
<br>Our next IPP WG call will be on Monday.<br>
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&nbsp; Monday 16 May 10-11am US PDT / 1-2pm US EDT<br>
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&nbsp; URL: <a href="https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join" target="_blank">https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join</a><br>&nbsp; Meeting ID: PWG_MFD<br>&nbsp; Entry Code: LetMeIn<br><br>
*** Main Objective - Review IPP WG and Cloud Imaging WG slides ***<br><br>
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(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - Mike?<br>
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(2) Approve <span>IPP</span> minutes from previous meeting<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; - <a style="color:rgb(102, 0, 204)" href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20110502.pdf" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20110502.pdf</a><br style="color:rgb(102, 0, 204)">

















<br>(3) Review IPP WG slides for PWG F2F (Mike)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - if available<br><br>(4) Review Cloud Imaging WG slides for PWG F2F (Mike/Ron)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - if available<br>
<br>(5) Discussion of IPP Everywhere (Mike/Ira)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - <a href="http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/IPP+Everywhere" target="_blank">http://pwg-wiki.wikispaces.com/IPP+Everywhere</a><br><br>
(6) Next Steps<span></span><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Use Case BOF at PWG F2F on Tuesday 24 May<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - IPP WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday/Thursday 25-26 May<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - All - Post more use cases to IPP/Cloud Imaging mailing lists<br><br>Cheers,<br>
- Ira (<span>IPP</span> WG Co-Chair)<br><br clear="all">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>
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Hi,

Corrected typo in Cloud slides link below - "-wd" to "-wg".

Cheers,
- Ira



On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I have uploaded new slides based on our discussions last Monday at:
>
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> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/slides/cloud-wg-meeting-may-11d2.pdf
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Hi,<br><br>Corrected typo in Cloud slides link below - &quot;-wd&quot; to &=
quot;-wg&quot;.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br clear=3D"all">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Michael=
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I have uploaded new slides based on our discussions last Monday at:<br>
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<br>
We will give these one more look on Monday in the IPP WG telecon.<br>
<br>
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All,

I have posted the minutes from today's conference call at:

	ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20110516.pdf

Action items:

	- Mike to issue new draft of JPS3 with changes accepted up to section 5.5.14 (BEFORE F2F)
	- Paul and Ira to solicit DLNA assistance for UPNP discovery (ONGOING)
	- Mike and Paul to reach out to label/portable printer vendors to join IPP WG discussions (ONGOING)

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VOTES ARE CONFIDENTIAL! See voting instructions below.

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This email initiates the Formal Approval vote by the PWG membership on
the Copy Service Semantic Model and Service Interface specification,
which is located at:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/wd-mfdcopymodel10-20110506.pdf

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The complete list of PWG Last Call issues and resolutions is located at:

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ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/CopyServiceLastCallComment-resolution-2
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321.pdf

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VOTING PERIOD: This Formal Vote will start today on Tuesday May 17, 2011
and will end at 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday June 10, 2011.

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Valid votes are: Yes, No, No (with Strong Objection), Abstain.

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by PWG officers or document editors.

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PWG MFD Copy Service Formal Vote -<company name>-<voter's last
name>-<Yes/No/Abstain>

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PWG MFD Copy Service Formal Vote -Acme-McGee-Yes

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(1) Any "No" vote MUST state the reason for the "No" vote and MUST
contain a description of the *technical* changes required to turn the
"No" vote into a "Yes" vote - otherwise the "No" vote will NOT be
counted, per PWG Process/3.0.

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(2) Any "No" vote MUST NOT contain *editorial* comments, per PWG
Process/3.0.

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(3) Any "Yes" vote MAY contain "editorial" comments, per PWG
Process/3.0.

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(4) Any "Yes" vote MUST NOT contain any *technical* comments, per PWG
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Please send your vote to *all* of the following email addresses
(replacing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'):

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msweet"at"apple"dot"com (Mike Sweet, PWG Chair, IPP/2.0 SE Co-Editor)

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ptykodi"at"tykodi"dot"com (Paul Tykodi, PWG Secretary)

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Peter"dot"Zehler"at"Xerox"dot"com (Peter Zehler, MFD WG -Chair)

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Please do NOT simply reply to this note on PWG-Announce or the MFD WG
list (to preserve the confidentiality of your vote).

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(1) This Formal Vote is being conducted under the rules of the PWG

Process/3.0 and the current PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and
Confidentiality agreement. The 2011 PWG Membership Agreement calls out
both of these documents and the links are provided below.

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(2) To be eligible to vote the member MUST have submitted a signed copy
of the 2011 PWG Membership Agreement and paid their dues.

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The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is
located at:

http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf

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The PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality is located
at:

http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-ip-policy.pdf

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Cheers,

- Pete (Chair MFD WG)

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Xerox Research Center Webster
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nText>VOTES ARE CONFIDENTIAL! See voting instructions below.<o:p></o:p></p>=
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mail initiates the Formal Approval vote by the PWG membership on the Copy S=
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<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>The complete list of PWG Last =
Call issues and resolutions is located at:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlai=
nText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><a href=3D"ftp://ftp.pwg=
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pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/CopyServiceLastCallComment-resolution-20110</a><o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>321.pdf<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlain=
Text><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoPlainText>VOTING PERIOD: This Formal Vote will start today on Tue=
sday May 17, 2011 and will end at 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday June 10,=
 2011.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoPlainText>Valid votes are: Yes, No, No (with Strong Objection), Absta=
in.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DM=
soPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>PWG Privacy Policy=
: Your vote is confidential and will not be disclosed by PWG officers or do=
cument editors.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>=
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>HOW TO=
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=3DMsoPlainText>Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line for=
mat:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>PWG MFD Copy Service Formal Vote=
 -&lt;company name&gt;-&lt;voter's last name&gt;-&lt;Yes/No/Abstain&gt;<o:p=
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Text>Example:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>PWG MFD Copy Service Fo=
rmal Vote -Acme-McGee-Yes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainT=
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ass=3DMsoPlainText>(1) Any &quot;No&quot; vote MUST state the reason for th=
e &quot;No&quot; vote and MUST contain a description of the *technical* cha=
nges required to turn the &quot;No&quot; vote into a &quot;Yes&quot; vote -=
 otherwise the &quot;No&quot; vote will NOT be counted, per PWG Process/3.0=
.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMso=
PlainText>(2) Any &quot;No&quot; vote MUST NOT contain *editorial* comments=
, per PWG Process/3.0.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>(3) Any &quot;Yes&quot; vote MAY contain &qu=
ot;editorial&quot; comments, per PWG Process/3.0.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D=
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YOUR VOTE:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoPlainText>Please send your vote to *all* of the following email ad=
dresses (replacing &quot;dot&quot; with '.' and &quot;at&quot; with '@'):<o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPla=
inText>msweet&quot;at&quot;apple&quot;dot&quot;com (Mike Sweet, PWG Chair, =
IPP/2.0 SE Co-Editor)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>ptykodi&quot;at&quot;tykodi&quot;dot&quot;com=
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bsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Peter&quot;dot&quot;Zehler&quot;at&qu=
ot;Xerox&quot;dot&quot;com (Peter Zehler, MFD WG -Chair)<o:p></o:p></p><p c=
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;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Please do NOT simply reply to this note =
on PWG-Announce or the MFD WG list (to preserve the confidentiality of your=
 vote).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Notes:<o:p></o=
:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText=
>(1) This Formal Vote is being conducted under the rules of the PWG<o:p></o=
:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Process/3.0 and the current PWG Policy on In=
tellectual Property and Confidentiality agreement. The 2011 PWG Membership =
Agreement calls out both of these documents and the links are provided belo=
w.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMs=
oPlainText>(2) To be eligible to vote the member MUST have submitted a sign=
ed copy of the 2011 PWG Membership Agreement and paid their dues.<o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>T=
he PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is locat=
ed at:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/=
chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf">http://www.pwg.org/chair/membershi=
p_docs/pwg-process30.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>The PWG Policy on Intellectual Propert=
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<a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-ip-policy.pdf">http=
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o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>- Pete (Chair MFD WG)<o:p></o:p></p><=
p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";color:navy'>Peter Zehler</span><span=
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t-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:navy'>Xerox Research Center Webster<br=
></span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";co=
lor:navy'>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com"><span style=3D'c=
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serif";color:navy'>Voice: (585) 265-8755</span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D=
'><br></span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-seri=
f";color:navy'>FAX: (585) 265-7441</span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><br>=
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All,

 

This is the announcement of Last Calls for three Project Charters describing
proposed WIMS (Imaging System Management) projects. The charter drafts are
posted at:

 

MFD Alerts:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-mfdalerts-charter-20110515.pdf 

 

Coherent MFD Management Interfaces: (CMMI):

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-cmmi-charter-20110515.pdf

 

DMTF/CIM Printer Profile: 

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-cimprinterprofile-charter-20110515
.pdf 

 

These projects are being chartered, with the charters to be submitted for
formal PWG approval, to provide greater visibility for and to solicit more
PWG member participation in the generation of imaging system  management
specifications. It is intended that all three of these projects will result
in standards for hardcopy imaging equipment, and they should reflect
consensus among PWG members. The three projects are not critically
interdependent and will be voted on separately. Schedules outlined in the
proposed charters may  be affected by the personnel resources available and
the other concurrent projects.

 

Please review these charters and send comments to the WIMS reflector
(wims@pwg.org). 

charter.  We will discuss all received comments during the WIMS Face to Face
meeting on May 24 in Webster, NY. The Last Calls will close on Friday, 3
June. 

 

Thank you,

 

Bill Wagner, Chairman, WIMS/PMP

 

 


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Normal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>This is the annou=
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Imaging System Management) projects. The charter drafts are posted at:<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",=
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bsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calib=
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if";color:#1F497D'><a href=3D"ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-cmm=
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an></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri=
f";color:#1F497D'>DMTF/CIM Printer Profile: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><a href=3D"ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-cimprinterprofile-c=
harter-20110515.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-cimprinterpr=
ofile-charter-20110515.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif"'>These projects are being chartered, with the charters to be s=
ubmitted for formal PWG approval, to provide greater visibility for and to =
solicit more PWG member participation in </span><span style=3D'font-family:=
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>the generation of imaging system &nbsp;management s=
pecifications. It is intended that all three of these projects will result =
in standards for hardcopy imaging equipment, and they should reflect consen=
sus among PWG members. The three projects are not critically interdependent=
 and will be voted on separately. Schedules outlined in the proposed charte=
rs may&nbsp; be affected by the personnel resources available and the other=
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al><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>charter. &nbsp;We wil=
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Sorry, Ira corrected me in that the last call duration must be 16 working
days (minimum of 22 Calendar days). So last calls end on 8 June.

Thanks. Bill Wagner

 

From: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org] On
Behalf Of William Wagner
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:27 PM
To: pwg-announce@pwg.org
Subject: [Pwg-Announce] PWG Last Call - WIMS Projects Charters

 

All,

 

This is the announcement of Last Calls for three Project Charters describing
proposed WIMS (Imaging System Management) projects. The charter drafts are
posted at:

 

MFD Alerts:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-mfdalerts-charter-20110515.pdf 

 

Coherent MFD Management Interfaces: (CMMI):

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-cmmi-charter-20110515.pdf

 

DMTF/CIM Printer Profile: 

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-cimprinterprofile-charter-20110515
.pdf 

 

These projects are being chartered, with the charters to be submitted for
formal PWG approval, to provide greater visibility for and to solicit more
PWG member participation in the generation of imaging system  management
specifications. It is intended that all three of these projects will result
in standards for hardcopy imaging equipment, and they should reflect
consensus among PWG members. The three projects are not critically
interdependent and will be voted on separately. Schedules outlined in the
proposed charters may  be affected by the personnel resources available and
the other concurrent projects.

 

Please review these charters and send comments to the WIMS reflector
(wims@pwg.org). 

charter.  We will discuss all received comments during the WIMS Face to Face
meeting on May 24 in Webster, NY. The Last Calls will close on Wednesday, 8
June. 

 

Thank you,

 

Bill Wagner, Chairman, WIMS/PMP

 

 


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","sans-serif"'> pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:pwg-announce-bounces@=
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, 2011 5:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> pwg-announce@pwg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Pwg-A=
nnounce] PWG Last Call - WIMS Projects Charters<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
</div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>All,<o=
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 the announcement of Last Calls for three Project Charters describing propo=
sed WIMS (Imaging System Management) projects. The charter drafts are poste=
d at:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:=
"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>MFD Alerts:<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calib=
ri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href=3D"ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/c=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";colo=
r:#1F497D'><a href=3D"ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-cimprinterp=
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rinterprofile-charter-20110515.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"C=
alibri","sans-serif"'>These projects are being chartered, with the charters=
 to be submitted for formal PWG approval, to provide greater visibility for=
 and to solicit more PWG member participation in the generation of imaging =
system &nbsp;management specifications. It is intended that all three of th=
ese projects will result in standards for hardcopy imaging equipment, and t=
hey should reflect consensus among PWG members. The three projects are not =
critically interdependent and will be voted on separately. Schedules outlin=
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flector (<a href=3D"mailto:wims@pwg.org">wims@pwg.org</a>). <o:p></o:p></sp=
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All,

I have uploaded an updated draft of the JPS3 spec at:

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The -rev version has all of the previous changes we reviewed through section 5.5.14 accepted. There is significant new content.

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[Realized I hadn't responded to this one...]

On Apr 26, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:
> Mike,
>  
> We still seem to differ on the adding page number and flip/orientation.   I hope we agree on adding the driver data fields to the PWG Raster.
>  
> An unusual request:  I would like to understand better the need for flip/orientation in a raster.    Since I do not know who or what company may have requested the flip/orientation data, would it be possible for you to send an email to the individuals who requested the flip/orientation asking if they can state why they need the data and why they are not expecting the raster to be in the correct flip/orientation that the printer would need to print the specified print job.

Glen, *I* added this because support for flip/rotate for duplex printing has been in CUPS for about 12 years now. I have used it for CUPS Raster drivers for that length of time in order to support shipping printers (back then a bunch of HP DeskJet printers) that didn't have enough memory to cache two sides of raster data and "do the right thing".

The printer tells the client what to do for the back side images of duplex raster jobs, and the proposed additions to the page header allow the client to tell the printer what it generated. The printer can ignore it, error out (if the values are wrong), or fix it (again, if the values are wrong) as desired.

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[Again, haven't been keeping up with my email...]

On Apr 27, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Petrie, Glen wrote:
> After thinking on it I decided I should explain in more detail my objection to flip/orientation specification in the raster in more detail.
>  
> All printers should be able to consume (PWG) Raster but it more likely that most mid and higher end printer will consume PDF.  It is also more likely that it will be lower end printers, those with limited resources, which will directly consume (PWG) Raster.  Since by definition they have limited resources it would be burden to have these printers perform flip/orientation transforms that require very large buffers that would basically have to hold an entire page worth of raster data.

That's why the header fields just tell the printer what transform was used by the client when they generated the image. The printer doesn't have to do anything with it - see my prior reply about this subject.

I'll add some more explanatory text and examples to make this clearer. In the end, the transform fields would just be a check for the printer to know that it has what it needs. The printer doesn't have to support re-transforming the raster data - that would go against the primary goal of PWG Raster to support streaming.

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 27, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Petrie, Glen wrote:</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; font-fa=
mily: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: nor=
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x; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing:=
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ed I should explain in more detail my objection to flip/orientation specifi=
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DF. &nbsp;It is also more likely that it will be lower end printers, those =
with limited resources, which will directly consume (PWG) Raster. &nbsp;Sin=
ce by definition they have limited resources it would be burden to have the=
se printers perform flip/orientation transforms that require very large buf=
fers that would basically have to hold an entire page worth of raster data.=
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the client when they generated the image. The printer doesn't have to do an=
ything with it - see my prior reply about this subject.</div><div><br></div=
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All,

I have uploaded new sample files that correct all of the reported issues to:

	ftp://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples-150dpi-20110518.zip
	ftp://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples-180dpi-20110518.zip

As the filenames indicate, these are 150dpi and 180dpi collections. If there is sufficient interest (and a willing host) I can easily provide higher-resolution sample files as well.

I also updated my RasterView application (v1.3) to specifically handle the newer colorspaces that the prior release did not cover.  It can be downloaded from:

	http://www.easysw.com/~mike/rasterview/

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Thank you Michael. But the following  addresses work better

 

ftp://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples-150dpi-2011-05-18.zi
p

ftp://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples-180dpi-2011-05-18.zi
p

 

Bill Wagner

From: cloud-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of
Michael Sweet
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Subject: [Cloud] Updated PWG Raster Sample Files and RasterView application

 

All,

 

I have uploaded new sample files that correct all of the reported issues to:

 

 
ftp://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples-150dpi-20110518.zip

 
ftp://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples-180dpi-20110518.zip

 

As the filenames indicate, these are 150dpi and 180dpi collections. If there
is sufficient interest (and a willing host) I can easily provide
higher-resolution sample files as well.

 

I also updated my RasterView application (v1.3) to specifically handle the
newer colorspaces that the prior release did not cover.  It can be
downloaded from:

 

            http://www.easysw.com/~mike/rasterview/

 

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nk=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit=
-line-break: after-white-space'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";colo=
r:#1F497D'>Thank you Michael. But the following &nbsp;addresses work better=
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;=
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a href=3D"ftp://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/P=
WGRasterSamples-150dpi-2011-05-18.zip">ftp://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/exampl=
es/PWGRasterSamples-150dpi-2011-05-18.zip</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><a href=3D"ftp://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples-18=
0dpi-2011-05-18.zip">ftp://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSample=
s-180dpi-2011-05-18.zip</a><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-ser=
if";color:#1F497D'>Bill Wagner</span><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div=
 style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in =
0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"T=
ahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cloud-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces@p=
wg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Sweet<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 19,=
 2011 7:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> ipp@pwg.org<br><b>Cc:</b> cloud@pwg.org<br><b>S=
ubject:</b> [Cloud] Updated PWG Raster Sample Files and RasterView applicat=
ion<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>All,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have uploaded new sample =
files that correct all of the reported issues to:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span class=3Dapple-tab-span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><a href=3D"ftp://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/ex=
amples/PWGRasterSamples-150dpi-20110518.zip">ftp://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/=
examples/PWGRasterSamples-150dpi-20110518.zip</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div=
><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-tab-span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><a href=3D"ftp:=
//ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples-180dpi-20110518.zip">ft=
p://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/examples/PWGRasterSamples-180dpi-20110518.zip</=
a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>As the filenames indicate, these are 150dp=
i and 180dpi collections. If there is sufficient interest (and a willing ho=
st) I can easily provide higher-resolution sample files as well.<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal>I also updated my RasterView application (v1.3) to specifical=
ly handle the newer colorspaces that the prior release did not cover. &nbsp=
;It can be downloaded from:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-tab=
-span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </=
span><a href=3D"http://www.easysw.com/~mike/rasterview/">http://www.easysw.=
com/~mike/rasterview/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'=
font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>________=
__________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica=
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All,

I have posted the slides and document for the Use Case BOF at:

	ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/slides/use-case-bof-may-11.pdf
	ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/generalwd/wd-commonusecases10-20110524.pdf

These are also linked from the May 2011 F2F meeting page...

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We will continue discussion of use cases during the "shoot out" portions of tomorrow's Cloud Imaging and IPP Everywhere sessions.

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Hi,

Minutes for the May 24 PWG Plenary are posted at:

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and 

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg_plenary_minutes_20110524.docx 

Please send any corrections or additions to me.


 

Thanks,

 

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All,

I have posted the minutes from Wednesday's and Thursday's face-to-face meetings at:

	ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20110525.pdf

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Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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