From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Jul 6 07:49:35 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A101B2A90 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 07:49:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jsGVplkGz8Ra for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 07:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFCA1B2A93 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 07:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id E0291868C; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D478353; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:50:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 7C2448455; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0134E806F for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wifm2 with SMTP id m2so32213497wif.1 for ; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 07:49:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=PALLjG9HPjb4uu9946DGupOWxLUefkH8s56TOmH/DN0=; b=Gb97XQVIpyiZvcNE2+1f4ueLcUbz8DfeDIoodnCwdfwarGFSry9w96+S7YyrtsxrLG WZNs/5TfWnsvv1yhOzCeYc3z4/x0kQxzbTP68eJOgMxrikx5vJJXO+BnxFN6//ttUFzu 3rIOEOZVCRHxob3ONw0eeArZzq5a+G/Co6L1e6Ov5ByhPeiGRb23OE5yAbb6Ax1AfgAg rnjD5g6DiiCOKMhEknzG9nPnICZSwackWJvzktC9LqBrdCQiRhGI6TweE5Er/yCbYZsm hOvUFKVAEoAeh8bDBG/nRgYMOjooFE69Qa7w2gwQpgEHOFeJA1ym+SPYwUvOkWS6DeKI 9A2g== X-Received: by 10.180.72.195 with SMTP id f3mr53902670wiv.11.1436194165845; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 07:49:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.27.53.205 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 07:49:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Ira McDonald Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 10:49:06 -0400 Message-ID: To: ipp@pwg.org, Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] IPP Agenda - 3-5pm US Eastern 6 July 2015 X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0469357663==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0469357663== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c7b8c157356051a3603c5 --f46d043c7b8c157356051a3603c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Our next IPP WG call will be Monday 6 July 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US Eastern Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) NOTE: Please DO NOT USE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx - instead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above! ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Topic: IPP/Cloud WG Date: Every Monday, from Monday, September 23, 2013 to no end date Time: 3:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00) Meeting Number: 682 763 393 Meeting Password: Printing123 ------------------------------------------------------- To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?ED=152699422&UID=1183762537&PW=NYTM5NTNhNjUy&RT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link: https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?ED=152699422&UID=1183762537&PW=NYTM5NTNhNjUy&ORT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D ------------------------------------------------------- For assistance ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". ------------------------------------------------------- Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review - Mike as minute taker? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20150615.pdf (3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike) * IPP Shared Infrastructure Extensions (INFRA) (Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-ippinfra10-20150619-5100.18.pdf -- PWG Formal Vote started 05/05/15 - ended on 06/19/15 -- PWG Candidate Standard 5100.18 - posted 0n 06/26/15 * IETF LDAP Printer Schema (Ira) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-13-20150430.pdf -- Stable draft - edits w/ RFC Editor on 06/10/15 and 06/14/15 - AUTH48 complete -- RFC Editor Queue - IETF and IANA approved * IETF IPP/1.1 Updates (Mike/Ira) - https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-04.txt - http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-02.txt -- changes for IETF Standard -- Reviewed by IPP WG on 06/15/15 - waiting for update by Mike * PWG IPP/2.0, 2.1, 2.2 Updates (Mike/Ira) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp20-20150611-rev.pdf -- changes for IEEE Standard -- Reviewed by IPP WG on 06/15/15 - waiting for update by Mike * IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification (SELFCERT) (Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert10-20150415-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018553.html -- Reviewed at PWG F2F on 04/29/15 -- Schedule - PWG Last Call Q3 2015 - waiting for update by Mike * IPP System Service (Ira/Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20150428-rev.pdf -- Interim draft - need to add operation details -- Reviewed at PWG F2F on 04/29/15 -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3/Q4 2015 - waiting for update by Mike (4) Status/Review of IPP Implementor's Guide v2.0 (IG) (Smith) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippig20-20150623-rev.pdf - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippig20.txt - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018554.html -- PWG Last Call started 03/31/15 - ended 05/22/15 -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2015 (7) Next steps - IPP WG call on Monday 20 July 2015 at 3-5pm US Eastern - IPP WG call on Monday 3 August 2015 at 3-5pm US Eastern (slides) - IPP WG at PWG F2F on Tuesday 11 August 2015 at 1:30-5pm US Pacific Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --f46d043c7b8c157356051a3603c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Our next IPP WG call wi= ll be Monday 6 July 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US Eastern

Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

Attendee Access Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

NOTE:=C2=A0 Please DO NOT U= SE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx
- instead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above!

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Meeting information
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Topic: IPP/Cloud WG
Date: Every Monday, from Monday, September 23, 2013 to no end date
Time: 3:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)
Meeting Number: 682 763 393
Meeting Password: Printing123
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To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)
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1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?ED=3D152699422&am= p;UID=3D1183762537&PW=3DNYTM5NTNhNjUy&RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D
2. If requested, enter your name and email address.
3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123
4. Click "Join".
To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link:
https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?ED=3D152699422&UID=3D= 1183762537&PW=3DNYTM5NTNhNjUy&ORT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D
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For assistance
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1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/mc
2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support".
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Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Ag= enda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes= from previous meetings
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2= -concall-minutes-20150615.pdf

(3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike)
* IPP Shared Infrastruc= ture Extensions (INFRA) (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-ipp= infra10-20150619-5100.18.pdf
-- PWG Formal Vote started 05/05/15 - e= nded on 06/19/15
-- PWG Candidate Standard 5100.18 - posted 0n 06/26/15

* IETF LDAP P= rinter Schema (Ira)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd= /draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-13-20150430.pdf
-- Stable draft = - edits w/ RFC Editor on 06/10/15 and 06/14/15 - AUTH48 complete
-- RFC = Editor Queue - IETF and IANA approved

* IETF IPP/1.1 Updates (Mike/Ira)
- https://ww= w.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-04.txt
- http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-02= .txt
-- changes for IETF Standard
-- Reviewed by IPP WG on 06/15/= 15 - waiting for update by Mike

* PWG IPP/2.0, 2.1, 2.2 Updates (Mik= e/Ira)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp20-2015= 0611-rev.pdf
-- changes for IEEE Standard
-- Reviewed by IPP WG o= n 06/15/15 - waiting for update by Mike

* IPP Everywhere Printe= r Self-Certification (SELFCERT) (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveself= cert10-20150415-rev.pdf
- http://www.p= wg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018553.html
-- Reviewed <= /span>at PWG F2F on 04/29/15
-- Schedule - PWG Last Call Q3 2015 - waiting for update by Mike

* <= span>IPP System Service (Ira/= Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsys= tem10-20150428-rev.pdf
-- Interim draft - need to add operation deta= ils
-- Reviewed at PWG F2F on 04/= 29/15
-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3/Q4 2015 - waiting for update b= y Mike

(4) Status/Review of IPP Implementor's Guide v2.0 (IG) (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippig20-20150623-re= v.pdf
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippig20.txt=
- http://w= ww.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018554.html
-- PWG Last Call started 03/31/15 - ended 05/22/1= 5
-- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2015

(7) Next steps
- IPP WG call on Monda= y 20 July 2015 at 3-5pm US Eastern
- IPP WG call on Monday 3 August 2015 at 3-5pm US Eastern (s= lides)
- IPP WG at PWG F2F on Tuesday 11 August 2015 at 1:30-5pm US Paci= fic

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair= - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Print= ing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-IS= TO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & = Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com<= /a>
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-9= 44-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-4= 94-2434

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Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:52:20 -0400 To: ipp Message-id: <55695C5C-6EB8-4C2A-8DAB-683BE5643159@apple.com> MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFuplluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRbCiM0t0uMjvU4FUfj8WxfS9ZHBg95i2e zhTAGMVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CVcePjA6aC00wVV1ccZm1gnMHUxcjJISFgIvHn9iwWCFtM4sK9 9WxdjFwcQgJ7GSV+nfvNDlO0duknZohEN5PE++8fWSCcdiaJM69fg41iE1CT+D2pjxXEZhbQ kli/8zgThC0vsXnNW2YQm0VAVWLFnPNgcWEBHYmDy4+C1YsIiEoc+7kErIZXwEbi3d4jQHEO IFtP4lGnLMQRshJb37QygeyVEDjJKnF6zXamCYwCs5Csm4Vk3SyE9gWMzKsYhXITM3N0M/NM 9BILCnJS9ZLzczcxgsJvup3QDsZTq6wOMQpwMCrx8EbUzAwVYk0sK67MPcQozcGiJM67n3l2 qJBAemJJanZqakFqUXxRaU5q8SFGJg5OqQZGra72u0HWi0TudCl919F4nzxR+bVjbcq/XSmP 132XfBnbmKC0P8T56JXY7JXGeqfZdru6/TEMn15zID6C2aTO8v3SS2yaHVNmmnI4xy1g/bel j99w48SSkx1PMpxZXF5+z+D2atjS/GV1/krv2fE3TWxPCgcLshnaZbicU6iq5p1w8fzqp+1K LMUZiYZazEXFiQACt1APIAIAAA== X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpgluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRbCjm1/Vmmx1qcP6QmcWxfS9ZHBg95i2e zhTAGMVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CVcePjA6aC00wVV1ccZm1gnMHUxcjJISFgIrF26SdmCFtM4sK9 9WxdjFwcQgLdTBLvv39kgXDamSTOvH4N1sEmoCbxe1IfK4jNLKAlsX7ncSYIW15i85q3YJNY BFQlVsw5DxYXFtCROLj8KFi9iICoxLGfS8BqeAVsJN7tPQIU5wCy9SQedcpCHCErsfVNK9ME Rt5ZSDbMQrJhFkLHAkbmVYwCRak5iZVmeokFBTmpesn5uZsYweFSGLWDsWG51SFGAQ5GJR5e j7yZoUKsiWXFlbmHGCU4mJVEeM+8nBUqxJuSWFmVWpQfX1Sak1p8iFGag0VJnHd/65RQIYH0 xJLU7NTUgtQimCwTB6dUA6O42luncC77c663li62k2A2njFJ6q+yz0H/otY9b1garTt2eNoW LtY63MATcivi9rN3b1n87dtCpm2q4Zj3KebiHseHgYyHfmfOf2AQLMHkcrnn13IVR/HYnk3F Zdt6HkSd9Za49c6z+5Zfw4pozh3ei7IEZwWv/Ju/N3Rjcc6Ti4n7Jl3X41JiKc5INNRiLipO BABRArRiEwIAAA== Subject: [IPP] Minutes posted from today's concall X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org All, I have posted the minutes from today's IPP WG conference call to: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20150706.pdf Our next conference call is July 20, 2015 at 3pm ET. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Jul 8 22:11:35 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1441A901F for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:11:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6yOR8r-h8wWE for ; 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Thu, 9 Jul 2015 05:11:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from G9W3616.americas.hpqcorp.net (16.216.186.51) by G4W6310.americas.hpqcorp.net (16.210.26.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.169.1; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 05:09:22 +0000 Received: from G4W3298.americas.hpqcorp.net ([169.254.4.172]) by G9W3616.americas.hpqcorp.net ([16.216.186.51]) with mapi id 14.03.0169.001; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 05:09:22 +0000 From: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" To: "" Thread-Topic: LCRC Draft of IPP Implementor's Guide v2 (IG) re-posted Thread-Index: AQHQugVqWUd0/XLwHUurqbfFZStqCQ== Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 05:09:21 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [71.209.13.199] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [IPP] LCRC Draft of IPP Implementor's Guide v2 (IG) re-posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1347016065==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1347016065== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0DBE140E-D0A6-4FA2-99E1-18EACF3DE1EA"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_0DBE140E-D0A6-4FA2-99E1-18EACF3DE1EA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, I have posted an updated LCRC draft of the IPP Implementor's Guide v2 = (IG) to the PWG FTP site here: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippig20-20150708.docx http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippig20-20150708-rev.docx http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippig20-20150708.pdf http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippig20-20150708-rev.pdf The last call comments are summarized with their resolutions here: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippig20-r2.txt I believe from the last IPP WG teleconference meeting minutes that we = were going to do 3 days call for objections, otherwise it would be = accepted as the new LCRC revision with all issues resolved, and we could = begin the formal vote at the end of the 3 days if there were no = objections. 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MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.0 \(3068\)) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:21:04 -0400 Message-id: References: <55695C5C-6EB8-4C2A-8DAB-683BE5643159@apple.com> To: William A Wagner X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3068) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrBLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FDorHtEe0mowf0OIYtj+16yODB6zFs8 nSmAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoErY/3cmcwFk2Iqvk1rYW9gnBLQxcjJISFgIjH/10NGCFtM4sK9 9WxdjFwcQgJ7GSWun3nAClN0uPkEO4gtJDCZSaL1WS1EUT+TREfDBaAODg5hASOJb79iQGp4 BfQkjjXvZwaxmQWSJJqvLmcDsdkE1CR+T+oDm8kpYCbx6PVZMJtFQFViz9/j7BD1ohIzljSy Qcyxkeg4MYsZYm+GxPSFX8HiIgI6Es0NMxlB1koIyErc+RwIco6EwF9WiZ8ru5knMArNQnLG LCRnQNjaEssWvoaKa0rs717OgimuIdH5bSLrAka2VYxCuYmZObqZeUZ6iQUFOal6yfm5mxhB QT/dTnAH4/FVVocYBTgYlXh4G7YsChViTSwrrsw9xCjNwaIkzntTdUmokEB6YklqdmpqQWpR fFFpTmrxIUYmDk6pBkaT9TO2SPcdVkotZez8ZmrO187SdfZN4sX+j8avnRQM/h7dVRT+Kv3O yaPTfhz1m8TKspBjwgvR5dckLpjNUfb7x9Iu5rDm3batlrmXQhkt9f39Fp7Qlv1S4a4SuM5/ /4X7O3d3X3KxET/kp/q3KNZ+10yF9Ctb5s87/yqg88HBDex9cr4uG+qVWIozEg21mIuKEwFa 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List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0305262914==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0305262914== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D8591A9E-776A-400A-B69A-214151707264" --Apple-Mail=_D8591A9E-776A-400A-B69A-214151707264 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Bill, Comments inline... _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > On Jul 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, wamwagner@comcast.net wrote: > ... >=20 > I am unhappy with "... conformance requirement that applies to a = particular capability or feature." as a general statement because: >=20 > a. Most conformance requirements apply to a particular = capability or feature. I assume that one is to infer that the = requirement applies only if that capability or feature exists in the = subject implementation seeking to be conformant. >=20 Per RFC 2119, REQUIRED, MUST, and MUST NOT are unconditional by = themselves. You make them conditional by making the statement = containing them conditional, e.g., 'If the Printer supports two-sided = printing, the Printer MUST support the "sides" Job Template attribute.' > ... >=20 > There is there is the additional question as to whether the term = should 'Conditionally Required" or "Conditionally Mandatory". Since the = basic compliance term is "Required", "Conditionally Required" seems more = appropriate. >=20 Agreed. > A reasonable variation on the 2003 definition and the RFC2119 = definition of requirement levels is : >=20 > CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED: definition is a requirement of the = specification if the specified condition is true. >=20 I'm not super happy with this... > One might prefer a term other than "definition", such as capability or = feature, and consider a requirement of the implementation rather than of = the specification, but RFC 2119 wording is:" =E2=80=A6 definition is an = absolute requirement of the specification." >=20 > Alternatively, we could modify the current definition to: >=20 > CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED: A conformance requirement that applies if the = specified condition is true. >=20 I like this better, or the definition you quoted from 5100.6: "The term CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED means that the Printer MUST support the = feature, if the specified condition is true." --Apple-Mail=_D8591A9E-776A-400A-B69A-214151707264 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Bill,

Comments inline...

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

On Jul 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, wamwagner@comcast.net= wrote:

...

I am unhappy with = "... conformance requirement that applies to a particular = capability or feature." as a general statement = because:

          &nb= sp; a. Most = conformance requirements apply to a particular capability or feature. I = assume that one is to infer that the requirement applies only if that = capability or feature exists in the subject implementation seeking to be = conformant.

Per RFC 2119, = REQUIRED, MUST, and MUST NOT are unconditional by themselves.  You = make them conditional by making the statement containing them = conditional, e.g., 'If the Printer supports two-sided printing, the = Printer MUST support the "sides" Job Template attribute.'

...

There is = there is the additional question as to whether the term should = 'Conditionally Required" or "Conditionally Mandatory". Since the basic = compliance term is "Required", "Conditionally Required" seems more = appropriate.

Agreed.

A = reasonable variation on the 2003 definition and the RFC2119 definition = of requirement levels is :

CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED: definition is a requirement of = the specification if the specified condition is = true.

I'm not super happy with = this...

One = might prefer a term other than "definition", such as capability or = feature, and consider a requirement of the implementation rather than of = the specification, but RFC 2119 wording  is:" =E2=80=A6 definition is an absolute requirement = of the specification."

Alternatively, we = could modify the current definition to:

CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED: A conformance requirement that = applies if the specified condition is = true.

I like this better, or the = definition you quoted from 5100.6:

"The = term CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED means that the = Printer MUST support the feature, if the specified condition = is true."


= --Apple-Mail=_D8591A9E-776A-400A-B69A-214151707264-- --===============0305262914== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============0305262914==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Jul 13 15:26:43 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9801A702C for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:26:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pWRldvPBD35l for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BD71A6FF2 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 93A79868C; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 22:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23538426; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 22:28:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 091988435; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 22:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22f.google.com (mail-wg0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9C7B8318 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 22:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgjx7 with SMTP id x7so306778823wgj.2 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:26:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=JQDzhi/Sd/I6iu0ogtt5CHpZa9D0iKS0yKlb077oCvE=; b=JaK6GcAA1nLWVFTfitX6uni9SDZGoMnAPMHPCh/yTNW0Vt+nfr1sN2yd5qcrEswmkb 8dFROcSEWUsFAvruWWX476AE+c7BjsEPd3lXV90H6QCMSDhCniE14dAfYoLbnLBzA9P6 OydTuPKncJSN26wTIyoJKmxKm0YzrjuDehKqgkPlNvXPvPjyYEVW5+nwdLY+TYcaAtTw HzdesCCFD00q2PYcJtZPjcMjknwskcNyvsJ7P2pE4HpSkrS+rZqdZOpdsPbBBQtCSFjL 5xVYvNQ7HFPSRFPrE08tuLWUlaN7Ek64R/dX3e6T4Y0xquLRVeATcURLSIyiipirdu0b 2jYQ== X-Received: by 10.194.78.210 with SMTP id d18mr38928226wjx.34.1436826397483; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:26:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.27.53.205 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:26:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <55695C5C-6EB8-4C2A-8DAB-683BE5643159@apple.com> From: Ira McDonald Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:26:18 -0400 Message-ID: To: Michael Sweet , Ira McDonald Cc: ipp Subject: Re: [IPP] Definition for Conditionally Required X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1201230010==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1201230010== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfcecb606aa97051ac937f9 --047d7bfcecb606aa97051ac937f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I second all of Mike's comments. I'd rather have no definition at all than have one that is obscure or has too much latitude in interpretation. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Bill, > > Comments inline... > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > On Jul 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, wamwagner@comcast.net wrote: > > ... > > I am unhappy with "... conformance requirement that applies to a > particular capability or feature." as a general statement because: > > a. Most conformance requirements apply to a particular > capability or feature. I assume that one is to infer that the requirement > applies only if that capability or feature exists in the subject > implementation seeking to be conformant. > > Per RFC 2119, REQUIRED, MUST, and MUST NOT are unconditional by > themselves. You make them conditional by making the statement containing > them conditional, e.g., 'If the Printer supports two-sided printing, the > Printer MUST support the "sides" Job Template attribute.' > > ... > > There is there is the additional question as to whether the term should > 'Conditionally Required" or "Conditionally Mandatory". Since the basic > compliance term is "Required", "Conditionally Required" seems more > appropriate. > > Agreed. > > A reasonable variation on the 2003 definition and the RFC2119 definition > of requirement levels is : > > *CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED*: definition is a requirement of the > specification if the specified condition is true. > > I'm not super happy with this... > > One might prefer a term other than "definition", such as capability or > feature, and consider a requirement of the implementation rather than of > the specification, but RFC 2119 wording is:" =E2=80=A6 definition is an = absolute > requirement of the specification." > > Alternatively, we could modify the current definition to: > > *CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED*: A conformance requirement that applies if the > specified condition is true. > > I like this better, or the definition you quoted from 5100.6: > > "The term CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED means that the Printer MUST support the > feature, if the specified condition is true." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > --047d7bfcecb606aa97051ac937f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I second all of Mike's comments.

I'd rather have = no definition at all than have one that is obscure or has
too much latit= ude in interpretation.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Soft= ware Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - = Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working = Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Des= ignated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<= br>http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic<= /a>
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthin= c
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline,= MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand M= arais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

=

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Michael Swe= et <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Bill,

Comments inl= ine...

____________________= _____________________________________
Michael = Sweet, Senior Printing System=C2=A0Engineer, PWG Chair

On Jul 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, wamwagner@comcast.net= wrote:

...

I am unhappy with "...=C2=A0conformance requirement that applies to a particular capability or feat= ure." as a general statement because:

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0a. Most conformance= requirements apply to a particular capability or feature. I assume that on= e is to infer that the requirement applies only if that capability or featu= re exists in the subject implementation seeking to be conformant.

Per RFC 2119, REQUIRED, MUST, and MU= ST NOT are unconditional by themselves.=C2=A0 You make them conditional by = making the statement containing them conditional, e.g., 'If the Printer= supports two-sided printing, the Printer MUST support the "sides"= ; Job Template attribute.'

...

There is there is= the additional question as to whether the term should 'Conditionally R= equired" or "Conditionally Mandatory". Since the basic compl= iance term is "Required", "Conditionally Required" seem= s more appropriate.

Agreed.
=

=

A reaso= nable variation on the 2003 definition and the RFC2119 definition of requir= ement levels is :

=

<= i>CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED: definition is a requirement of the specificat= ion if the specified condition is true.

=
I'm not super happy with this...

=

One might prefer a term other than= "definition", such as capability or feature, and consider a requ= irement of the implementation rather than of the specification, but RFC 211= 9 wording=C2=A0=C2=A0is:"=C2=A0=E2=80= =A6=C2=A0definition is an absolute requirement of the specification.= "

Alternatively, we = could modify the current definition to:

= CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED: A conformance requireme= nt that applies if the specified condition is true.

<= /blockquote>
I like this better, or the definition you quoted fr= om 5100.6:

"The t= erm=C2=A0CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED=C2=A0means that the Printer=C2=A0MUST=C2=A0= support the feature, if the specified condition is true."
<= /div>



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--047d7bfcecb606aa97051ac937f9-- --===============1201230010== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============1201230010==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Jul 13 16:48:50 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D831A87C8 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:48:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y9gzRqh1lhuD for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5D51A87C7 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 8D4A58692; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A321F8426; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:50:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 0D5778435; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22f.google.com (mail-wi0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE49A8318 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibud3 with SMTP id ud3so545565wib.0 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:48:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ZqYW8z4lQ11B0JR7V/zOoisF9oUKfu4C4w6miODr4Tc=; b=rTNt6OVZgJiu7FTPFXj5mHmjycpjC/wW+bUt5TQQZeHtkVtlCHoxv9BSV+2qjjb1yd QBnkqkT5fANsS/GZYg+QdGq10tgfpn4fYAqkZMDJJO3yLVqJAJ+QG4ZJUxuUjnJ30e6r D89/6vq8tadBlOT3/dtkA0chDb3uuR5wh+Dnlvc/qwam+l9r6cDPGU8NF2ShgURz8NzR RhMpVdmhqBMZTnmHqPY1EDOwKY4rB9rq0KFI2NaBEepjiCrTIa6gr8dw4Ip1sBHqdE5B 6iWxTgAhm9yvzuod0ucSFXqvVB2cxE83pqh3Kqv8GtFp0WxSqqjUr9UKbUfgKO6iHraS 2Gyw== X-Received: by 10.180.76.193 with SMTP id m1mr27217304wiw.11.1436831321146; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:48:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.27.53.205 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:48:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Ira McDonald Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 19:48:21 -0400 Message-ID: To: ipp@pwg.org, Pat Fleming , Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] RFC 7612 - LDAP Printer Schema - published 30 June 2015 X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1195207046==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1195207046== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043895517fcc91051aca5cc0 --f46d043895517fcc91051aca5cc0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, Although Pat Fleming and I never received any notification, the second version of LDAP Printer Schema was published on 30 June 2015 at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7612.txt This completes the set of IETF and PWG IPP Everywhere documents. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --f46d043895517fcc91051aca5cc0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Although Pat Fleming and I never received any notification, the = second
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This completes the set of I= ETF and PWG IPP Everywhere documents.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDona= ld (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solut= ions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-IS= TO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Prot= ocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Musi= c / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/= site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.c= om/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park = Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
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Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org All, This is a formal request to deprecate the value 'ssl3' for the "uri-security-supported" Printer attribute defined in RFC 2911. This request is made in conformance with the IPP Registry Policy at: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/ipp-registry-policy-20150302.txt SSL3 is obsolete and insecure. Best practice is not to support SSL3 at all. The following is the registry template to deprecate the keyword value. This value is removed from the pending update to RFC 2911. [APPLE20150715] Attribute (attribute syntax) Keyword Attribute Value Reference ----------------------- --------- uri-security-supported [RFC2911] ssl3(deprecated) [APPLE20150715] _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sun Jul 19 17:40:49 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B3D1B2EBF for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 17:40:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zsZ6is0sQHTj for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 17:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454D11B2EBD for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 17:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 4E8A4846F; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BF18345; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:42:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id B60368416; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:42:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x229.google.com (mail-ig0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::229]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64ECE8307 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igvi1 with SMTP id i1so66748017igv.1 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 17:40:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=JfpK2akFuBaZibrLJ8LKcxDuTylY8tAQv6DixkBuBuo=; b=Ph4cA4n2jfFz7OvR9EyzwP1VtmQvdbdxnVaa3L1zLe/m4LXkilDv5THgaUBdnO5D0e TvaY91p1Ww4sqg7wS97R6FfeO2yUfIanjUTMLxAgOj/MH9yCDk+yKKCLAqbjz+T/vEmC LrdtilmQxuq25icb8xwoD5hZrrQuB/cCVllD7m9U5NQTPUBi7gcwoJ++f1tk0mG1aDZp 2iEyIv/E95YjfWtHCg0hGABJvckjLtoflpGeiTFz50zIVjk4mOb7cnCEYy9GqtV7K75/ c13yTTO96cqcnNrCv7Cb8HMFCtZzGvFE8ian7+3kdkx6Wf7WvVQa/agpyK/TGGxU6FGB lt1g== X-Received: by 10.50.36.72 with SMTP id o8mr9610463igj.16.1437352842212; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 17:40:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.176.149 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 17:40:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Ira McDonald Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:40:22 -0400 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] IPP Agenda - 3-5pm US Eastern 20 July 2015 X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1367450587==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1367450587== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013c69d293bc4a051b43c9a7 --089e013c69d293bc4a051b43c9a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Our next IPP WG call will be Monday 20 July 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US Eastern Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) NOTE: Please DO NOT USE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx - instead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above! ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Topic: IPP/Cloud WG Date: Every Monday, from Monday, September 23, 2013 to no end date Time: 3:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00) Meeting Number: 682 763 393 Meeting Password: Printing123 ------------------------------------------------------- To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?ED=152699422&UID=1183762537&PW=NYTM5NTNhNjUy&RT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link: https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?ED=152699422&UID=1183762537&PW=NYTM5NTNhNjUy&ORT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D ------------------------------------------------------- For assistance ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". ------------------------------------------------------- Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review - Mike as minute taker? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20150706.pdf (3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike) * IETF LDAP Printer Schema (Ira) - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7612.txt -- RFC 7612 - posted on 06/30/15 * IPP Shared Infrastructure Extensions (INFRA) (Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-ippinfra10-20150619-5100.18.pdf -- PWG Candidate Standard 5100.18 - posted 0n 06/26/15 * PWG IPP/2.0, 2.1, 2.2 Updates (Mike/Ira) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp20-20150611-rev.pdf -- changes for IEEE Standard -- Reviewed by IPP WG on 06/15/15 - waiting for update by Mike * IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification (SELFCERT) (Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert10-20150415-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018553.html -- Reviewed at PWG F2F on 04/29/15 -- Schedule - PWG Last Call Q3 2015 - waiting for update by Mike * IPP System Service (Ira/Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20150428-rev.pdf -- Interim draft - need to add operation details -- Reviewed at PWG F2F on 04/29/15 -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3/Q4 2015 - waiting for update by Ira (4) Status of IPP Implementor's Guide v2.0 (IG) (Smith) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippig20-20150708.pdf - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippig20-r2.txt - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018554.html -- Call for Objections on LCRC changes ended on 07/14/15 - no objections -- PWG Formal Vote started on 07/19/15 - ends on 08/21/15 -- Schedule - PWG Candidate Standard Q3 2015 (5) Status of IETF IPP/1.1 Updates (Mike/Ira) - https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-04.txt - http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-02.txt -- changes for new IETF Proposed Standard -- Reviewed by IPP WG on 06/15/15 - waiting for update by Mike -- Email from Barry Leiba (IETF ART AD) on 07/12/15 --- Minor reference edits needed - no charter needed - Barry will be AD sponsor (6) Review deprecation request for 'ssl3' in "uri-security-supported" (Mike) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018568.html -- Email from Mike on 07/15/15 (7) Review definitions of CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018566.html - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018567.html -- Email from Bill on 07/14/15 -- Email from Mike on 07/14/15 (8) Next steps - IPP WG call on Monday 3 August 2015 at 3-5pm US Eastern (slides) ??? - IPP WG at PWG F2F on Tuesday 11 August 2015 at 1:30-5pm US Pacific Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --089e013c69d293bc4a051b43c9a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Our next IPP<= /span> WG call will be Monday 20 July 12-2pm US P= acific / 3-5pm US Eastern

Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
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Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

Attendee Access Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

NOTE:=C2=A0 Please DO NOT U= SE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx
- instead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above!

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Meeting information
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Topic: IPP/Cloud WG
Date: Every Monday, from Monday, September 23, 2013 to no end date
Time: 3:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)
Meeting Number: 682 763 393
Meeting Password: Printing123
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2. If requested, enter your name and email address.
3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123
4. Click "Join".
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2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support".
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Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Ag= enda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes= from previous meetings
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2= -concall-minutes-20150706.pdf

(3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike)
* IETF LDAP Printer Schema (Ira)
- = https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7612.txt
-- RFC 7612 - posted on 0= 6/30/15

* IPP Shared Infras= tructure Extensions (INFRA) (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-ipp= infra10-20150619-5100.18.pdf
-- PWG Candidate Standard 5100.18 - posted 0n 06/26/15

* PWG IPP/2.0= , 2.1, 2.2 Updates (Mike/Ira)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/p= wg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp20-20150611-rev.pdf
-- changes for IEEE Standard
= -- Reviewed by IPP WG on 06/15/15 - waiting for update by Mike

* IPP Everywhere Printe= r Self-Certification (SELFCERT) (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveself= cert10-20150415-rev.pdf
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018553.html
-- Reviewed <= span>at PWG F2F on 04/29/15
-- Schedule - PWG Last Call Q3 2015 - waiting for update by Mike

* <= span>IPP System Service (Ira/= Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsys= tem10-20150428-rev.pdf
-- Interim draft - need to add operation deta= ils
-- Reviewed at PWG F2F on 04/= 29/15
-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3/Q4 2015 - waiting for update b= y Ira

(4) Status of IPP= Implementor's Guide v2.0 (IG) (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippig20-20150708.pdf
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippig20-r2.txt- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018554.html
-- Call for Objections on LCRC changes ended on 07/14/15 - no ob= jections
-- PWG Formal Vote started on 07/19/15 -= ends on 08/21/15
-- Schedule - PWG Candidate Standard Q3 2015

-- Em= ail from Mike on 07/15/15

-- Email from Bill on 07/14/1= 5
-- Email from Mike on 07/14/15

(8) Next s= teps
- IPP WG call on Monday 3 August 2015 at 3-5pm US Eastern (slides) ???
- I= PP WG at PWG F2F on Tuesday 11 August 2015 at 1:30-5pm US Pacific
=
Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Tr= usted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WGSecretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG In= ternet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer M= IB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http= ://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
h= ttp://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Wi= nter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434
--089e013c69d293bc4a051b43c9a7-- --===============1367450587== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============1367450587==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Jul 20 10:18:39 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784C31B2CEB for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:18:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.798 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.798 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WhO62drTYI3K for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:18:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AD21B2CF4 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id D470887C6; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507F7868C; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:18:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id AC9E68715; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22c.google.com (mail-ig0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22c]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14261868A for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbpg9 with SMTP id pg9so42503979igb.0 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ie/acW9mTI6cwhFb1zKl6DlImr5u2SAmo6nmjJS8h+c=; b=qYFIsJzoaw4A0t36uef1uMc+Un0wpWneXKanpdJo5fYQ4dcssHESNssRLWrb5fhO7b z+PiUzRrez0JG1gUw93FMpjMAu2jPBc2Yyu7m+BMrrlo8nPSY2ezE9gtLDQspQkOzm3R +/KwwdY+an4/SXx4/ee5WGBs1PGEYhMz5S3+hs66uCc+1Qul27pc27f5tsdvLhnrOyjJ 7N4t1qWVtiJpTB6Tsq2ftKYAUKtZ6axv1g9Jam99GdmgPoY+ji4ISt4hvrFttZ7BPR1s tByU5u5mGov69h6/omGt0zay6pQCxVVdlV5vyTRqpbzsufiBWqqLA2FAhoNS8RQjyxvM xnRA== X-Received: by 10.107.16.223 with SMTP id 92mr42616040ioq.14.1437412618506; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.176.149 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:16:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55AD2421.2090705@bbiw.net> References: <55AD2421.2090705@bbiw.net> From: Ira McDonald Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:16:39 -0400 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] Fwd: [arcmedia] Closing the arcmedia working group X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0724655021==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0724655021== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113ec94e859738051b51b4f0 --001a113ec94e859738051b51b4f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, FYI - new 'arcmedia' MIME top class died through lack of activity. Cheers, - Ira ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dave Crocker Date: Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:38 PM Subject: [arcmedia] Closing the arcmedia working group To: "arcmedia@ietf.org" Cc: Barry Leiba Folks, G'day. The arcmedia working group was chartered 5 months ago. It has had almost no discussion during that time, in spite of my sending multiple prods to the mailing list. Given such an extended demonstration of lassitude, I will be requesting that the working group be shut down. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net _______________________________________________ arcmedia mailing list arcmedia@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/arcmedia --001a113ec94e859738051b51b4f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

FYI - new 'arcmedia' MIME top= class died through lack of activity.

Cheers,
- Ira

<= /div>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
F= rom: Dave Crocker <<= a href=3D"mailto:dcrocker@bbiw.net">dcrocker@bbiw.net>
Dat= e: Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:38 PM
Subject: [arcmedia] Closing the arcmedi= a working group
To: "arcmedia@= ietf.org" <arcmedia@ietf.o= rg>
Cc: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>


<chair hat on>

Folks,

G'day.

The arcmedia working group was chartered 5 months ago.=C2=A0 It has had
almost no discussion during that time, in spite of my sending multiple
prods to the mailing list.

Given such an extended demonstration of lassitude, I will be requesting
that the working group be shut down.

d/
--
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net

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https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/arcmedia

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Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:50:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:50:34 -0400 To: ipp Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupmluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRbCiM0pWJXxtq8GWrrMWxfS9ZHBg95i2e zhTAGMVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CV8aFjEXvBZuaKVd+nMDUwvmTqYuTkkBAwkfjQ2MQMYYtJXLi3 nq2LkYtDSGAvo8S+yVuZYYp2vlvIDpGYyCSxo+EWVFUvk8Sz7vnsIFVsAmoSvyf1sYLYzAJa Eut3HmeCsLUlnry7ABZnEVCVOHe4lQXEFgaauv7uFzYQW0RAVOLYzyVA2zg4eAVsJP5trYIw 9SQedcpC3CArsfVNK9TRJ1klTszyncAoMAvJsllIls1C6F7AyLyKUSg3MTNHNzPPTC+xoCAn VS85P3cTIyj0ptuJ7mA8s8rqEKMAB6MSD6/A39WhQqyJZcWVuYcYpTlYlMR5G0zXhgoJpCeW pGanphakFsUXleakFh9iZOLglGpgXPuAV5x1XbmE2P5e9VCH6LdWv6ubpN9z10odX+QpGrzk C8/+taLds9p3tHr7Jpzqj2T6tYa1LcL9ROzX81dbsr9vcfHObSiIm7ecfYLHjKcPDoqtWN5x X/LAvN4vGVcPpYS4divGvJxedV70y44Pa3STNHKP6N/88GH/w103HwemxnBMmVakoMRSnJFo qMVcVJwIAHINcgUeAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrPJMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FAcp7s+YG2oweW3khbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxoeORewFm5krVn2fwtTA+JKpi5GTQ0LARGLnu4XsELaYxIV7 69m6GLk4hAQmMknsaLgF5fQySTzrng9WxSagJvF7Uh8riM0soCWxfudxJghbW+LJuwtgcRYB VYlzh1tZQGxhoA3r735hA7FFBEQljv1cwtzFyMHBK2Aj8W9rFYSpJ/GoUxbiBlmJrW9amSYw 8s5CsmAWkgWzEDoWMDKvYhQoSs1JrDTTSywoyEnVS87P3cQIDpbCqB2MDcutDjEKcDAq8fCu eLM6VIg1say4MvcQowQHs5IIL6f62lAh3pTEyqrUovz4otKc1OJDjNIcLErivOEPlocKCaQn lqRmp6YWpBbBZJk4OKUaGCfdrlM3MXOJ1uOOWyPzaUvj1VnlIieU2c88+VhyZsrK3z+6mNV3 CByRfWZzOnnjt/C1v5V3rL0x/7+xwfNN629n8ezrty/9f6WSbeLUKPX3LFe4LuUwRaXekxHl 8N1iOcHhhrj0r5qPX/6vmy15Zeupe3M3ub1uMU2WXdB8Vpr95A+OO28ncRYosRRnJBpqMRcV JwIAEp5QuBICAAA= Subject: [IPP] Minutes posted from today's conference call X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org All, I have posted the minutes from today's IPP WG conference call to: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20150720.pdf We will not have a conference call on August 3rd due to the Canadian "Civic Holiday". Our next (face-to-face) meeting is on August 11th at 1pm PT. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Jul 21 10:18:20 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E70F1A00BE for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:18:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.801 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wue9hSu09z37 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org > Begin forwarded message: > > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-05.txt > Date: July 21, 2015 at 1:16:48 PM EDT > To: Michael Sweet , Ira McDonald , Michael Sweet , Ira McDonald > > > A new version of I-D, draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-05.txt > has been successfully submitted by Michael Sweet and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-sweet-rfc2910bis > Revision: 05 > Title: Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Encoding and Transport > Document date: 2015-07-21 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 53 > URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-05.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis/ > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-05 > Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-05 > > Abstract: > This document is one of a set of documents, which together describe > all aspects of a new Internet Printing Protocol (IPP). IPP is an > application level protocol that can be used for distributed printing > using Internet tools and technologies. This document defines the > rules for encoding IPP operations and IPP attributes into a new > Internet mime media type called "application/ipp". This document > also defines the rules for transporting over HTTP a message body > whose Content-Type is "application/ipp". > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Jul 21 10:18:29 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1451A0378 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:18:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.801 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8_xw1bVkHz55 for ; 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Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:17:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) From: Michael Sweet Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:17:38 -0400 Message-id: <2C24105C-0310-480A-992B-0F8F1FE76B32@apple.com> References: <20150721171659.1682.62693.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: ipp X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprGLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FAYpbu5bl2owaN1TBbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxtMrzUwF04UqtpzqYW1gfMLXxcjBISFgIrHkkkMXIyeQKSZx 4d56NhBbSGAvo8TvcwEQcROJntk/GbsYuYDiE5kkXt97AuX0Mkmca3vBDFLFLKAlsX7ncSaQ obwCehKPOmVBwsICHhI7pr1hBLHZBNQkfk/qYwWxWQRUJXb0dTFBtGpLPHl3gRWi1UZiyQ9/ iBscJGZu2sgCYosIiEoc+7mEGeIeWYmtb1qZQE6QELjJKrFq9wqWCYyCs5BcMQvhillINixg ZF7FKJSbmJmjm5lnppdYUJCTqpecn7uJERSQ0+1EdzCeWWV1iFGAg1GJh/dC29pQIdbEsuLK 3EOM0hwsSuK8DaZAIYH0xJLU7NTUgtSi+KLSnNTiQ4xMHJxSDYzLr7YosXGaiVevC1rL4m4w Vev6kkXdjxY9D1X5+b5qjXb0ZicmPuu6OsdN3SYzDKSz5jx4m31/3ttJkW9PT1FcMOFqQAXj bJ1bFV8/XTqnL+W49Hrf/UCpN6FSBzny65J5vc/7J4bcWOicMXv9pSXqzftyX1hLyUmfPS3s YLx026QqNm671eVKLMUZiYZazEXFiQAzzTZNKQIAAA== X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupmluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRbCiO03UtWBdqcHqXqcWxfS9ZHBg95i2e zhTAGMVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CV8fRKM1PBdKGKLad6WBsYn/B1MXJySAiYSPTM/skIYYtJXLi3 nq2LkYtDSGAik8Tre08YIZxeJolzbS+YQaqYBbQk1u88ztTFyMHBK6An8ahTFiQsLOAhsWPa G7BBbAJqEr8n9bGC2CwCqhI7+rqYIFq1JZ68u8AK0WojseSHP0hYSMBBYuamjSwgtoiAqMSx n0uYIe6Rldj6ppVpAiPfLCSLZyEsnoVk6AJG5lWMAkWpOYmVZnqJBQU5qXrJ+bmbGMFBVBi1 g7FhudUhRgEORiUe3syytaFCrIllxZW5hxglOJiVRHhPRK4LFeJNSaysSi3Kjy8qzUktPsQo zcGiJM7bEw1ULZCeWJKanZpakFoEk2Xi4JRqYJy8+q4Mw0y9Zgkt9QUPJ98t772345T8jY23 l5XYnI5RXpqw9jZ3kXri1wuO7w+3P12tVe637Gvv2Ua3N5mV2Vrpp1dnLRLeW14499pW++WH XFU6X83Z+HOWxt6cy+9CeGx57NR85t8V2SvZVXUoRv1HzeSqaiEBkelcq2+2OzjnsSyJn2V6 4LISS3FGoqEWc1FxIgD17AFVHgIAAA== Subject: [IPP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-03.txt X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org > Begin forwarded message: > > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-03.txt > Date: July 21, 2015 at 1:16:59 PM EDT > To: Michael Sweet , Ira McDonald , Michael Sweet , Ira McDonald > > > A new version of I-D, draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-03.txt > has been successfully submitted by Michael Sweet and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-sweet-rfc2911bis > Revision: 03 > Title: Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semantics > Document date: 2015-07-21 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 234 > URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-03.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis/ > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-03 > Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-03 > > Abstract: > This document is one of a set of documents, which together describe > all aspects of the Internet Printing Protocol (IPP). IPP is an > application level protocol that can be used for distributed printing > using Internet tools and technologies. This document describes a > simplified model consisting of abstract objects, their attributes, > and their operations that is independent of encoding and transport. > The model consists of a Printer and a Job object. A Job optionally > supports multiple documents. IPP 1.1 semantics allow end-users and > operators to query Printer capabilities, submit print jobs, inquire > about the status of print Jobs and printers, and cancel, hold, > release, and restart print Jobs. IPP 1.1 semantics allow operators > to pause, resume, and purge (Jobs from) Printer objects. This > document also addresses security, internationalization, and directory > issues. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Jul 22 13:47:00 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE06A1B2BA2 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:47:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.801 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lrGERdblcdmr for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org All, I have posted draft slides for the F2F to: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-august-2015d1.pdf Please review and provide any feedback prior to August 7, 2015 so that I can post them for the F2F meeting. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Jul 22 14:27:22 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA2A1B2E60 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:27:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.798 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.798 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eDqDQ6xg9-nW for ; 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boundary="===============1103167069==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1103167069== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd74b66d27d07051b7d6d8e --047d7bd74b66d27d07051b7d6d8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, For those interested in high-performance secure alternatives to TLS/1.x over TCP - here's the Google QUIC protocol (on top of UDP, but with TLS-grade security) from Chromium browser: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tsvwg-quic-protocol-01 I found it because people concerned about constrained devices on the TLS 1.3 mailing list recently mentioned it. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --047d7bd74b66d27d07051b7d6d8e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

For th= ose interested in high-performance secure alternatives to
TLS/1.x = over TCP - here's the Google QUIC protocol (on top of
UDP, but= with TLS-grade security) from Chromium browser:

http://tools.ietf.org/html= /draft-tsvwg-quic-protocol-01

I found it because people co= ncerned about constrained devices
on the TLS 1.3 mailing list rece= ntly mentioned it.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair= - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Print= ing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-IS= TO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & = Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com<= /a>
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-9= 44-0094
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--047d7bd74b66d27d07051b7d6d8e-- --===============1103167069== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============1103167069==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sun Jul 26 08:39:26 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B301E1AC3E2 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:39:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.33 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.33 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.428, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZZRleqAVFlFc for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EF41AC3D4 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 2338B84D4; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E07884F2; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:41:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 5B1AC8443; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x231.google.com (mail-ig0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::231]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D87D7842E; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iggf3 with SMTP id f3so50496711igg.1; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:39:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=BoMgDTomfWGRehVb0vT0Jx3zll2dTA2irp88kDro2lY=; b=HF9kp3zCdHNUw9o+wx+q79m/sNlmAlftO7v7sQHe44KdbqSBzwf60/Byh3QUW5a0ND cFNvZiT8isMNjR8Qf/jAk4YojaA/8EDJbi2991iChKOmm7fqTEwZ0VZipfG0lc780wxM amjwMIDmMJucdGvK9BddIxaAL399UUEyzeZA37ljEasbqVVF38+Tr3+H/ucVD4914Hht cE7ngw/RCgN62t0SPjgpS9UDlUcm49w8Jde3pkkat3uW0fufreDbZLaA0WFTm04On3Mp 1gEeXQdl1gyo8ral0Y6KAkicPjCps99fWP+Ihym0zvKY8ifbH0Vf4snNFKJeBFlrj7/Y RwRA== X-Received: by 10.50.62.81 with SMTP id w17mr11604332igr.0.1437925149180; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:39:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.176.149 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:38:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55B4C0F1.5050104@hsr.ch> References: <5558D85F.3040100@hsr.ch> <55B4C0F1.5050104@hsr.ch> From: Ira McDonald Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 11:38:49 -0400 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , "ids@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=047d7bdc0856bb3de5051bc90919 Subject: [IPP] Fwd: Query about prototype of IEEE-ISTO PWG Hardcopy Device Health AssessmentTNC Binding X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --047d7bdc0856bb3de5051bc90919 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc0856bb3de0051bc90917 --047d7bdc0856bb3de0051bc90917 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Good news about HCD-TNC. Dr. Andreas Steffen at HSR (in Switzerland) had completed a prototype implementation, including multiple PA subtypes (i.e., Printer MIB subunits)= . All - please take a look at the code and release notes. We'll talk more about this prototype effort in two weeks at our August PWG F2F. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Andreas Steffen Date: Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 7:13 AM Subject: Re: Query about prototype of IEEE-ISTO PWG Hardcopy Device Health AssessmentTNC Binding To: Ira McDonald Hi Ira, I've just completed a prototype implementing the latest PWG HCD-TNC spec including support of multiple PA subtypes. You can find the [partially] commented configuration and log files of the tnccs-20-hcd-eap example scenario using a HCD IMC/IMV pair under the link https://wiki.strongswan.org/projects/strongswan/wiki/TrustedNetworkConnect#= Hardcopy-Device-Health-Assessment If you need a walkthrough through the architecture of the prototype and or the test results then we can arrange a telco sometime next week. Currently the source code of the prototype is kept in a separate branch on the strongSwan git server https://git.strongswan.org/?p=3Dstrongswan.git;a=3Dshortlog;h=3Drefs/heads/= pwg-hcd-tnc Best regards Andreas On 07/02/2015 05:21 PM, Ira McDonald wrote: > Hi Dr. Steffen, > > Just a reminder that we (PWG) would like to hear back from you when > you get a chance about a refined cost estimate for a prototype of our > HCD-TNC spec. > > Also, whatever form of RFP (from us) or simply a Proposal (from you). > The less superfluous paperwork, the better for all of us. > > Cheers, > - Ira (PWG Secretary) > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Ira McDonald > wrote: > > Hello Dr. Steffen, > > Here is a link to the HCD TNC draft (with change bars) where I > attempted > to address all of your comments: > > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/wd/wd-idstnc10-20150530-rev.pdf > > That draft was reviewed last Monday by the PWG IDS WG - so I just sen= t > another HCD TNC draft (with change bars) where I attempted to address > all of the IDS WG member comments and discussion: > > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/wd/wd-idstnc10-20150608-rev.pdf > > Note especially that, by IDS WG consensus, I added a series of > HCD-specific > PA subtypes that map one-to-one to all of the components of an HCD > defined > in the abstract model in the PWG Imaging System State and Counter > MIB v2: > > > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-wimscountmib20-20080318-5106.3.pdf > > > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-wimscountmib20-20080318-5106.3.mib > > IDS WG members strongly feel that firmware for the System (main board), > Console, Finisher, Interface, Marker, and Scanner components should b= e > labeled with the relevant HCD component type (since each of these major > components typically has a unique boot ROM, a unique OS, and a unique > firmware image - also each of these major components are typically built > by different suppliers). > > I realize that the TCG face-to-face meeting in Edinburgh will be > next week, > but please take a look at the change logs and redlines in these two > versions > at your convenience. > > PWG Steering Committee members are unanimously in favor of proceeding > with our discussion of a strongSWAN prototype effort and refinement > of your > original cost estimate (we do realize that we just made it a bit > more complex, > although in practice a single HCD IMV should normally be sufficient - an > exception might be for high-end Finishers built by third parties). > > Cheers, > - Ira (IEEE-ISTO PWG Secretary, HCD TNC Binding editor) > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Ira McDonald > > wrote: > > Hi Andreas, > > More background: > > There are NO implementations of this HCD TNC Binding in any real > printer. > > The PWG Process 3.0 requires that, when aworking draft has > reached the > "Prototype" draft state, then it MUST be prototyped (at some > level) by at > least one vendor before the document can advance to a "Stable" > draft state > and pass on through WG last call, then PWG last call, and > finally PWG formal > vote for a PWG Candidate Standard (published). > > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/pwg-process-30.pdf > > The point of asking for your help for a prototype is to get this > document > moving forward again on the PWG standards process. > > You already found several discrepancies (I'll take them to the > IDS WG for > review and updated text). Unfortunately, I can't choose to > restructure the > Firmware/ResidentApplication/UserApplication* tuples into single > attributes. > Note that IETF NEA did not do so for the similar attributes > either (our main > source for structure). > > I look forward to your further thoughts and reply. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Andreas Steffen > > wrote: > > Hi Ira, > > I think 2'000 USD should be sufficient to fund the > implementation of > the PWG HCD PA-TNC attributes and to build a demo HCD > IMC/IMV pair > since the structure of the attributes types is quite simple. > > Concerning the PWG HCD Health Assessment TNC Binding draft I > have > the following remarks/questions: > > - The attribute type 0x50 (23) of the TimeSource attribute > is wrong. > 0x50 (80) has been assigned to ResidentApplicationName. > The correct > attribute type of TimeSource probably is 0x32 (50). > > > Thanks for catching the TimeSource typo. Actually the > decimal value of '23' > is correct and the hex value of '0x50' is wrong and should be > '0x17' per this > table of assigned values from the Imaging Device Security WG: > > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/wd/ids-attributes-2012-04-20.txt > > > - How is the 128 bit binary blob of the *Version attributes > to be > interpreted? The draft says that it MAY conform to section > 4.2.3 > =E2=80=9CNumeric Version=E2=80=9D of IETF PA-TNC [RFC5792]: > > > The version block is opaque and (per Lexmark and Ricoh input) > was not standardized (i.e., you can't interpret it, any more > than you can > interpret the equivalent NEA attribute). You just do a binary > compare for > equality. Not my choice, because the PWG model spec (whose link > I also > sent is authoritative but ambiguous). > > * 1 2 > 3 > * 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 > 8 9 0 1 > * > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > * | Major Version Number > | > * > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > * | Minor Version Number > | > * > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > * | Build Number > | > * > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > * | Service Pack Major | Service Pack > Minor | > * > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > If another representation is chosen by a printer vendor then > interoperability will be very difficult. Shall the demo > implementation just do a hex dump of the 128 bit blob? > > > Yes - pure 128-bit dump. > > > > - Section 5.4 Correlated Attributes (Name, Patches, > StringVersion, > Version) has a note saying: Each ordered set of Correlated > Attributes > MUST include an empty string if there is no known value > for one of > the Correlated Attributes. This cannot be true for the Version > attribute because it has a fixed size of 16 bytes. It > would make > sense to set the 128 bit binary blob to all zeroes. > > > Agreed - this is a bug in this binding and the PWG model spec. > This will take some grief to fix (PWG Process to adopt an errata of > the model spec). Yes, zero's would be appropriate for the > fixed-length > attributes. I'll raise the issue in the IDS WG. > > > - Because of the Correlated Attributes requirement it would > make much > more sense to pack Name, Patches, StringVersion and > Version into > a single attribute. The reason this isn't done is probably > due to > the size restrictions of PT-EAP transport. I'd like to > mention that > all strongSwan IMCs and IMVs support the IF-M Segmentation > Specification proposal being drafted by the TNC Endpoint > Compliance > Subgroup which allows to transfer huge attributes > (>100'000 kB) in > chunks as small as several hundred bytes over > size-restricted PB-TNC > batches. > > > The PWG model spec was adopted years earlier - we CANNOT > make any such structural changes at this point to defined > attributes > (because as SEPARATE attributes they're already in the approved > parallel PWG MS-NAP Binding). > > > - For the demo it would be helpful to have some real-world > examples > taken from actual printers for all of the 25 PWG HCD > attribute types. > > > There are NO real-world examples or implementations. See m= y > note above. > > > Best regards > > Andreas > > On 05/15/2015 08:50 PM, Ira McDonald wrote: > > Hi Andreas, > > > > We spoke several years ago at a TCG face-to-face meeting about your > > wonderful open > > source TNC protocol stack. > > > > Two weeks ago, I attended the annual joint meeting of IEEE-ISTO Printer > > Working roup > > (I'm the Secretary) and Linux Foundation Open Printing > Summit (I'm the > > Chair), where we > > reviewed minor editorial changes to a work-in-progress PWG > Hardcopy > > Device Health > > Assessment TNC Binding spec which has been waiting in > Prototype Draft > > state for awhile. > > > > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/wd/wd-idstnc10-20150419.pd= f > > > > > > > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-idsattributes11-20140529-5110.1.pd= f > > > > Mike Sweet (Apple, PWG Chair) suggested that I ask if you > would be > > interested in PWG > > funding for a graduate student to use your TNC stack and > do a desktop > > prototype (not > > hosted in an actual printer) of these 20+ PWG extension > health attributes. > > > > If you are interested, would you take a quick look at our > spec and think > > about what kind > > of funding level would be appropriate to build a desktop > prototype of a > > "printer" reporting > > its own health attributes as a TNC Client. > > > > Cheers, > > - Ira (PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair, HCD-TNC Editor) > > > > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > > > > > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > > > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Andreas Steffen e-mail: > andreas.steffen@hsr.ch > Institute for Internet Technologies and Applications > Hochschule fuer Technik Rapperswil phone: +41 55 222 > 42 68 > CH-8640 Rapperswil (Switzerland) mobile: +41 76 340 > 25 56 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D[ITA-HSR]=3D=3D > > > > -- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Andreas Steffen e-mail: andreas.steffen@hsr.ch Institute for Internet Technologies and Applications Hochschule fuer Technik Rapperswil phone: +41 55 222 42 68 CH-8640 Rapperswil (Switzerland) mobile: +41 76 340 25 56 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D[ITA-HSR]=3D=3D --047d7bdc0856bb3de0051bc90917 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Good news about = HCD-TNC.

Dr. Andreas Steffen at HSR (in Switzerl= and) had completed a prototype
implementation, including multiple = PA subtypes (i.e., Printer MIB subunits).

All - please take a = look at the code and release notes.=C2=A0 We'll talk more about
thi= s prototype effort in two weeks at our August PWG F2F.

Ch= eers,
- Ira



---------- Forwarded message ----------
F= rom: Andreas Steffen &l= t;andreas.steffen@hsr.ch><= /span>
Date: Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: Query about pr= ototype of IEEE-ISTO PWG Hardcopy Device Health AssessmentTNC Binding
To= : Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic= @gmail.com>


Hi Ira,

I've just completed a prototype implementing the latest PWG HCD-TNC
spec including support of multiple PA subtypes. You can find the
[partially] commented configuration and log files of the
tnccs-20-hcd-eap example scenario using a HCD IMC/IMV pair under
the link

https://wiki.strongswan.org/projects/strongswan/wiki/TrustedNetwork= Connect#Hardcopy-Device-Health-Assessment

If you need a walkthrough through the architecture of the prototype
and or the test results then we can arrange a telco sometime next
week.

Currently the source code of the prototype is kept in a separate
branch on the strongSwan git server

https://git.st= rongswan.org/?p=3Dstrongswan.git;a=3Dshortlog;h=3Drefs/heads/pwg-hcd-tnc

Best regards

Andreas

On 07/02/2015 05:21 PM, Ira McDonald wrote:
> Hi Dr. Steffen,
>
> Just a reminder that we (PWG) would like to hear back from you when > you get a chance about a refined cost estimate for a prototype of our<= br> > HCD-TNC spec.
>
> Also, whatever form of RFP (from us) or simply a Proposal (from you).<= br> > The less superfluous paperwork, the better for all of us.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira (PWG Secretary)
>
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail= .com <mailto:blueroofmusi= c@gmail.com>
> Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
> Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> <mailto:blueroofmusic@gm= ail.com>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hello Dr. Steffen,
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Here is a link to the HCD TNC draft (with change ba= rs) where I
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0attempted
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to address all of your comments:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://= ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/wd/wd-idstnc10-20150530-rev.pdf
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0That draft was reviewed las= t Monday by the PWG IDS WG - so I just sent
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0another HCD TNC draft (with change bars) where I at= tempted to address
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0all of the IDS WG member comments and discussion: >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://= ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/wd/wd-idstnc10-20150608-rev.pdf
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Note especially that, by ID= S WG consensus, I added a series of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0HCD-specific
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0PA subtypes that map one-to-one to all of the compo= nents of an HCD
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0defined
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0in the abstract model in the PWG Imaging System Sta= te and Counter
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0MIB v2:
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0h= ttp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-wimscountmib20-20080318-5106.3.pdf<= /a>
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-wimsc= ountmib20-20080318-5106.3.mib
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IDS WG members strongly feel that firmware for the = System (main board),
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Console, Finisher, Interface, Marker, and Scanner c= omponents should be
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0labeled with the relevant HCD component type (since= each of these major
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0components typically has a unique boot ROM, a uniqu= e OS, and a unique
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0firmware image - also each of these major component= s are typically built
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0by different suppliers).
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I realize that the TCG face-to-face meeting in Edin= burgh will be
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0next week,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0but please take a look at the change logs and redli= nes in these two
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0versions
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0at your convenience.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0PWG Steering Committee members are unanimously in f= avor of proceeding
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0with our discussion of a strongSWAN prototype effor= t and refinement
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of your
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0original cost estimate (we do realize that we just = made it a bit
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0more complex,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0although in practice a single HCD IMV should normal= ly be sufficient - an
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0exception might be for high-end Finishers built by = third parties).
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cheers,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Ira (IEEE-ISTO PWG Secretary, HCD TNC Binding edi= tor)
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol= WG
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://sites.google.com/site/bluer= oofmusic
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://sites.google.com= /site/highnorthinc
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mailto: = blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 = 48176=C2=A0 734-944-009= 4
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<tel:734-944-0094>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 4983= 9=C2=A0 906-494-2434
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<tel:906-494-2434>
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Ira McDonald
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Andreas,
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0More background:
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0There are NO implementations of this = HCD TNC Binding in any real
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0printer.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The PWG Process 3.0 requires that, wh= en aworking draft has
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0reached the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"Prototype" draft state, th= en it MUST be prototyped (at some
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0level) by at
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0least one vendor before the document = can advance to a "Stable"
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft state
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and pass on through WG last call, the= n PWG last call, and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0finally PWG formal
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0vote for a PWG Candidate Standard (pu= blished).
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ht= tp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/pwg-process-30.pdf
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The point of = asking for your help for a prototype is to get this
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0document
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0moving forward again on the PWG stand= ards process.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0You already found several discrepanci= es (I'll take them to the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IDS WG for
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0review and updated text).=C2=A0 Unfor= tunately, I can't choose to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0restructure the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Firmware/ResidentApplication/UserAppl= ication* tuples into single
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0attributes.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Note that IETF NEA did not do so for = the similar attributes
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0either (our main
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0source for structure).
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I look forward to your further though= ts and reply.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cheers,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Ira
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Arc= hitect)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solut= ions WG
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printin= g WG
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working= Group
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Pri= nting Protocol WG
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Pr= inter MIB
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://sites.google.= com/site/blueroofmusic
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://sites.g= oogle.com/site/highnorthinc
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Sal= ine, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<tel:734-944-0094>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand M= arais, MI 49839=C2=A0 9= 06-494-2434
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<tel:906-494-2434>
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Andr= eas Steffen
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<andreas.steffen@hsr.ch <mailto:andreas.steffen@hsr.ch>> = wrote:
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Ira,
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think 2'000 USD s= hould be sufficient to fund the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0implementation of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the PWG HCD PA-TNC attr= ibutes and to build a demo HCD
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IMC/IMV pair
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0since the structure of = the attributes types is quite simple.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Concerning the PWG HCD = Health Assessment TNC Binding draft I
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0have
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the following remarks/q= uestions:
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- The attribute type 0x= 50 (23) of the TimeSource attribute
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0is wrong.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00x50 (80) has be= en assigned to ResidentApplicationName.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The correct
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0attribute type o= f TimeSource probably is 0x32 (50).
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<ira>=C2=A0 Thanks for catching= the TimeSource typo.=C2=A0 Actually the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0decimal value of '23'
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0is correct and the hex value of '= 0x50' is wrong and should be
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0'0x17' per this
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0table of assigned values from the Ima= ging Device Security WG:
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/wd/ids-attributes-2012-04-20.txt
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0- How is the 128 bit binary blob of the *Version attributes
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to be
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0interpreted? The= draft says that it MAY conform to section
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A04.2.3
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=E2=80=9CNumeric= Version=E2=80=9D of IETF PA-TNC [RFC5792]:
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<ira> The version block is opaq= ue and (per Lexmark and Ricoh input)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0was not standardized (i.e., you can&#= 39;t interpret it, any more
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0than you can
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0interpret the equivalent NEA attribut= e). You just do a binary
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0compare for
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0equality.=C2=A0 Not my choice, becaus= e the PWG model spec (whose link
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I also
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sent is authoritative but ambiguous).=
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *=C2=A0 =C2=A00 1 2 3 = 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A08 9 0 1
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+= -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Majo= r Version Number
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+= -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mino= r Version Number
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+= -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Build Number
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+= -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 Service Pack Major=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = Service Pack
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Minor=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0|
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+= -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 If another repr= esentation is chosen by a printer vendor then
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 interoperabilit= y will be very difficult. Shall the demo
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 implementation = just do a hex dump of the 128 bit blob?
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<ira> Yes - pure 128-bit dump.<= br> >
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Section 5.4 Correlate= d Attributes (Name, Patches,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0StringVersion,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Version) has a n= ote saying: Each ordered set of Correlated
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Attributes
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0MUST include an = empty string if there is no known value
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for one of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the Correlated A= ttributes. This cannot be true for the Version
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0attribute becaus= e it has a fixed size of 16 bytes. It
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0would make
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sense to set the= 128 bit binary blob to all zeroes.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<ira> Agreed - this is a bug in= this binding and the PWG model spec.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0This will take some grief to fix (PWG= Process to adopt an errata of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the model spec).=C2=A0 Yes, zero'= s would be appropriate for the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0fixed-length
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0attributes.=C2=A0 I'll raise the = issue in the IDS WG.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Because of the Correl= ated Attributes requirement it would
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0make much
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0more sense to pa= ck Name, Patches, StringVersion and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Version into
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0a single attribu= te. The reason this isn't done is probably
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0due to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the size restric= tions of PT-EAP transport. I'd like to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mention that
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0all strongSwan I= MCs and IMVs support the IF-M Segmentation
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Specification pr= oposal being drafted by the TNC Endpoint
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Compliance
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Subgroup which a= llows to transfer huge attributes
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(>100'000 kB) in=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0chunks as small = as several hundred bytes over
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0size-restricted PB-TNC<= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0batches.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<ira> The PWG model spec was ad= opted years earlier - we CANNOT
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0make any such structural changes at t= his point to defined
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0attributes
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(because as SEPARATE attributes they&= #39;re already in the approved
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0parallel PWG MS-NAP Binding).
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- For the demo it would= be helpful to have some real-world
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0examples
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0taken from actua= l printers for all of the 25 PWG HCD
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0attribute types.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<ira> There are NO real-world e= xamples or implementations.=C2=A0 See my
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0note above.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Best regards
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Andreas
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 05/15/2015 08:50 PM,= Ira McDonald wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Hi Andreas,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> We spoke several y= ears ago at a TCG face-to-face meeting about your
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> wonderful open
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> source TNC protoco= l stack.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Two weeks ago, I a= ttended the annual joint meeting of IEEE-ISTO Printer
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Working roup
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> (I'm the Secre= tary) and Linux Foundation Open Printing
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Summit (I'm the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Chair), where we >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> reviewed minor edi= torial changes to a work-in-progress PWG
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hardcopy
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Device Health
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Assessment TNC Bin= ding spec which has been waiting in
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Prototype Draft
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> state for awhile.<= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/wd/wd-idstnc10-20= 150419.pdf
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://ftp.= pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-idsattributes11-20140529-5110.1.pdf
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Mike Sweet (Apple,= PWG Chair) suggested that I ask if you
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0would be
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> interested in PWG<= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> funding for a grad= uate student to use your TNC stack and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0do a desktop
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> prototype (not
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> hosted in an actua= l printer) of these 20+ PWG extension
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0health attributes.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> If you are interes= ted, would you take a quick look at our
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0spec and think
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> about what kind >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> of funding level w= ould be appropriate to build a desktop
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0prototype of a
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> "printer"= ; reporting
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> its own health att= ributes as a TNC Client.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Cheers,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> - Ira (PWG Secreta= ry, IPP WG Co-Chair, HCD-TNC Editor)
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Ira McDonald (Musi= cian / Software Architect)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Co-Chair - TCG Tru= sted Mobility Solutions WG
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Chair - Linux Foun= dation Open Printing WG
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Secretary - IEEE-I= STO Printer Working Group
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Co-Chair - IEEE-IS= TO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> IETF Designated Ex= pert - IPP & Printer MIB
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Blue Roof Music / = High North Inc
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> h= ttp://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
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ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1458492722==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1458492722== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1130d45e40f008051bcea069 --001a1130d45e40f008051bcea069 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Mike, One small edit (truth-in-advertising for next steps): (1) Slide 13 change main bullet "Advance IPP/1.1 to IETF Internet Standard" to "Advance IPP/1.1 Update to IETF Proposed Standard in 2015" perhaps add a sub-bullet "Advance to IETF Internet Standard in future" Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > All, > > I have posted draft slides for the F2F to: > > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-august-2015d1.pdf > > Please review and provide any feedback prior to August 7, 2015 so that I > can post them for the F2F meeting. > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > --001a1130d45e40f008051bcea069 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mike,

O= ne small edit (truth-in-advertising for next steps):
(1) Slide 13<= br>
change main bullet "Advance IPP/1.1 to IETF Internet Standard= "
to "Advance IPP/1.1 Update to IETF Proposed Standard i= n 2015"
perhaps add a sub-bullet "Advance to IETF Intern= et Standard in future"

Cheers,
- Ira



Ira McDonald (Musician /= Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Cha= ir - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Wor= king Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IET= F Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North= Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofm= usic
http://sites.google.com/site/highno= rthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Sa= line, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Gr= and Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

<= /div>

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Michael Swe= et <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
http://ftp.pwg.or= g/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-august-2015d1.pdf

Please review and provide any feedback prior to August 7, 2015 so that I ca= n post them for the F2F meeting.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org All, I have posted an updated version of my IPP 3D Printing Extensions white paper to: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/BOFs/3d-printing/wd-apple-ipp3d-20150729.docx http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/BOFs/3d-printing/wd-apple-ipp3d-20150729.pdf http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/BOFs/3d-printing/wd-apple-ipp3d-20150729-rev.pdf For discussion at the August F2F meeting: https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/august_2015_camas.html The 3D Printing BOF is scheduled from 10:30am to 12:00pm US Pacific Time on August 11, 2015. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Jul 30 09:55:19 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122A91ABD3D for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org All, I have posted an updated stable draft of the IPP 2.0, 2.1, and 2.2 specification to: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp20-20150730.docx http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp20-20150730.pdf http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp20-20150730-rev.pdf _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Jul 31 20:13:10 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EEE1ACD3A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 20:13:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m8W6Fh1yGZbQ for ; 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Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:12:58 -0500 From: "Manchala, Daniel" To: "'ipp@pwg.org'" Thread-Topic: Question on ICC profiles. Thread-Index: AdDMB/bp5Dm0xGcfRmOozSSK7XT2xw== Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 03:12:58 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [13.41.230.87] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [IPP] Question on ICC profiles. X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1325719383==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1325719383== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_E4503CD23822BF45A1EAEDA0BC5F10740E4A2A81usa7109mb013nax_" --_000_E4503CD23822BF45A1EAEDA0BC5F10740E4A2A81usa7109mb013nax_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At one of our last PWG-IPP meetings, we discussed printer-icc-profiles, and= how a particular icc profile can be picked up at the printer. Based on the spec, "5.6.30 printer-icc-profiles (1setOf collection) The RECOMMENDED "printer-i= cc-profiles" Printer attribute lists one or more ICC profiles that characte= rize the Printer or its rendering. Each collection value consists of "profi= le-name (name(MAX))" and "profile-uri (uri)" member attributes plus any Job= Template attributes (as member attributes) that contribute to the selectio= n of the profile." relevant JT attributes sent from the Client match those on the Printer Desc= ription attribute and a certain icc profile will get selected. We also discussed that it is not recommended to use/send a particular icc p= rofile (the client selecting one of the printer-icc-profiles provided in th= e Get-Printer-Attributes response) in a Print-Job or Create-Job. Can you ex= plain why this is not recommended, but rather have a workflow wherein when = the printer receives a certain JT attribute (say media-type), that particul= ar attribute is used to look for another attribute (such as printer-icc-pro= file)? --_000_E4503CD23822BF45A1EAEDA0BC5F10740E4A2A81usa7109mb013nax_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

At one of our last PWG-IPP meetings, we discussed pr= inter-icc-profiles, and how a particular icc profile can be picked up at th= e printer.  

 

Based on the spec,

“5.6.30 printer-ic= c-profiles (1setOf collection) The RECOMMENDED "printer-icc-profiles&q= uot; Printer attribute lists one or more ICC profiles that characterize the= Printer or its rendering. Each collection value consists of "profile-name (name(MAX))" and "profile-uri (uri)" = member attributes plus any Job Template attributes (as member attributes) t= hat contribute to the selection of the profile.”

 

relevant JT attributes sent from the Client match th= ose on the Printer Description attribute and a certain icc profile will get= selected.

 

We also discussed that it is not recommended to use/= send a particular icc profile (the client selecting one of the printer-icc-= profiles provided in the Get-Printer-Attributes response) in a Print-Job or= Create-Job. Can you explain why this is not recommended, but rather have a workflow wherein when the printer re= ceives a certain JT attribute (say media-type), that particular attribute i= s used to look for another attribute (such as printer-icc-profile)?

 

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