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From: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
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Subject: [IPP] IPP Agenda - 3-5pm US Eastern 1 February 2016
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Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be Monday 1 February 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US
Eastern

Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

Attendee Access Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

NOTE:  Please DO NOT USE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx
- instead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above!

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Meeting information
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Topic: IPP/Cloud WG
Date: Every Monday, from Monday, September 23, 2013 to no end date
Time: 3:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)
Meeting Number: 682 763 393
Meeting Password: Printing123
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Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160118.pdf
<http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160104.pdf>
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160125.pdf

(3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike/Smith)
* IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification (SELFCERT) (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert10-20151110.pdf
-- PWG Last Call started 11/16/16 - extended 12/19/15 - ended 01/18/16
-- Quorum achieved (10 responses, quorum 30% of 30 members = 9)
-- PWG Formal Vote started 01/19/16 - ends 02/19/16
-- Schedule - PWG publication in February/March

* IPP Job Password Repertoire" (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp
/wd/wp-job-password-repertoire-20160101-rev.pdf
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018661.html
-- Reviewed by IPP WG on 12/07/15
-- Plan is to register stand-alone (without enclosing IPP spec)
-- Schedule - PWG F2F review and IANA registration in Q1 2016

* IPP Staple and Punch Origins/Angles/Dimensions (Smith/Ira/Mike)
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018651.html
-- off-list discussion on 11/06/15 to 11/09/15 started by Smith
-- potential errata update to IPP Finishings 2.0 based on JDF attributes
-- Mike/Ira to review JDF attributes and propose IPP extensions
<https://github.com/williamkapke/ipp>
* IETF IPP/1.1 Updates (Mike/Ira)
- http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-07.txt
- http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-06.txt
<http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018665.html>
-- changes for new IETF Proposed Standard
-- Barry Leiba (IETF ART AD) will be AD sponsor - note on 07/12/15
-- 2910bis and 2911bis reviewed by IPP WG on 01/18/16
-- 2910bis OK and 2911bis needs minor terminology update
-- Schedule - IETF Last Call in Q1/Q2 2016

* IPP 3D Printing Extensions (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160128-rev.pdf
-- Interim draft as IPP project spec on 01/28/16
-- not reviewed by IPP WG on 01/25/16
-- Schedule - PWG F2F review on 02/11/16

* IPP 3D Subunit Collection Template (Mike)
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018696.html
-- reviewed by IPP WG on 01/25/16
-- updated per WIMS DMTF Printing MIB mapping table
-- Schedule - PWG F2F review on 02/11/16

* IPP 3D at Drupa (Paul, Anne)
- http://www.drupa.com/
-- Dusseldorf, Germany on 05/31/16 to 06/10/16
-- 3D Fab & Print group offered PWG to have a sub-booth and give talks
-- PWG to present PWG 3D Printing story at 2:30pm on 06/03 and 06/06
-- Paul and Anne Price (PR Works) met last week to discuss details

(4) Review of IPP WG slides for PWG F2F (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-february-16.pdf
-- Schedule - IPP WG review on 02/01/16

(5) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160117-rev.pdf
-- Interim draft
-- Reviewed by IPP WG on 12/07/15 (Startup-All-Printers)
-- Reviewed by IPP WG on 01/04/16 (section 7.1 Op Attributes)
-- Removed redundant Restart-Xxx-Printer(s)
-- Kept just Shutdown- & Startup-Xxx-Printer(s)
-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q1/Q2 2016

(6) Next steps
- IPP WG at PWG F2F Wednesday/Thursday 10-11 February 2016
- IPP 3D call on Monday 22 February 2016 at 4-5pm US Eastern
- IPP WG call on Monday 29 February 2016 at 3-5pm US Eastern

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br>Our next <span><span><span><span=
><span><span>IPP</span></span></span></span></span></span> WG call will be =
Monday 1 February 12-<span><span>2pm</span></span> US Pacific / <span><span=
>3-5pm</span></span> US Eastern<br>
<br>
Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:1-866-469-3239" value=
=3D"+18664693239" target=3D"_blank">1-866-469-3239</a><br>
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:1-650-429-3300" value=3D"+1=
6504293300" target=3D"_blank">1-650-429-3300</a> (Primary)<br>
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:1-408-856-9570" value=3D"+1=
4088569570" target=3D"_blank">1-408-856-9570</a> (Backup)<br>
<br>
Attendee Access Code: *******#<br>
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">NOTE:=C2=A0 Please DO NOT U=
SE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx<br>
- instead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above!</span><br>
<br>
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Meeting information<br>
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Topic: <span><span><span><span><span><span>IPP</span></span></span></span><=
/span></span>/Cloud WG<br>
Date: Every Monday, from Monday, September 23, 2013 to no end date<br>
Time: 3:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)<br>
Meeting Number: 682 763 393<br>
Meeting Password: Printing123<br>
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To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)<br>
-------------------------------------------------------<br>
1. Go to <a href=3D"https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?ED=3D152699=
422&amp;UID=3D1183762537&amp;PW=3DNYTM5NTNhNjUy&amp;RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?ED=3D152699422&am=
p;UID=3D1183762537&amp;PW=3DNYTM5NTNhNjUy&amp;RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D</a><br>
2. If requested, enter your name and email address.<br>
3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123<br>
4. Click &quot;Join&quot;.<br>
To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link:<br>
<a href=3D"https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?ED=3D152699422&amp;U=
ID=3D1183762537&amp;PW=3DNYTM5NTNhNjUy&amp;ORT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D" target=3D"_b=
lank">https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?ED=3D152699422&amp;UID=3D=
1183762537&amp;PW=3DNYTM5NTNhNjUy&amp;ORT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D</a><br>
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For assistance<br>
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ank">https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/mc</a><br>
2. On the left navigation bar, click &quot;Support&quot;.<br>
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<br>
<span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>Agenda</span></span></span>=
</span></span></span></span></span>:<br>
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and <span><span><span><span><span><span><s=
pan><span>Agenda</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span> Re=
view<br>
- Mike as minute taker?<br>
<br>
(2) Approve <span><span><span><span><span><span>IPP</span></span></span></s=
pan></span></span> minutes from previous meetings<br>
- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-2=
0160104.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2=
-concall-minutes-20160118.pdf</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pw=
g/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160125.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://=
ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160125.pdf</a><br><=
br>
(3) Status of various <span><span><span><span><span><span>IPP</span></span>=
</span></span></span></span> documents (Ira/Mike/Smith)<br><div>* <span><sp=
an><span><span><span><span>IPP</span></span></span></span></span></span> Ev=
erywhere Printer Self-Certification (SELFCERT) (Mike)<br>
- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert10-20151110=
.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert=
10-20151110.pdf</a><br><div>-- PWG Last Call started 11/16/16 - extended 12=
/19/15 - ended 01/18/16<br></div><div>-- Quorum achieved (10 responses, quo=
rum 30% of 30 members =3D 9)<br></div>
-- PWG Formal Vote started 01/19/16 - ends 02/19/16<br></div><div>-- Schedu=
le - PWG publication in February/March<br><br><span>* <span>IPP</span></spa=
n> Job Password Repertoire&quot; (Smith)<br><div>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pw=
g.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wp-job-password-repertoire-20160101-rev.pdf" target=3D=
"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<span>ipp</span>/wd/wp-job-password-rep=
ertoire-20160101-rev.pdf</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archives/ip=
p/2015/018661.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.pwg.org/archives/<span>ipp=
</span>/2015/018661.html</a><br></div><div>-- Reviewed by <span><span>IPP</=
span></span> WG on 12/07/15<br></div><div>-- Plan is to register stand-alon=
e (without enclosing <span><span>IPP</span></span> spec)<br></div>-- Schedu=
le - <span><span>PWG F2F review</span></span> and IANA registration in Q1 2=
016<br><br>*  <span><span>IPP</span></span> Staple and Punch Origins/Angles=
/Dimensions (Smith/Ira/Mike)<br><div>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archiv=
es/ipp/2015/018651.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.pwg.org/archives/<spa=
n>ipp</span>/2015/018651.html</a><br></div><div>-- off-list discussion on 1=
1/06/15 to 11/09/15 started by Smith<br>-- potential errata update to <span=
><span>IPP</span></span> Finishings 2.0 based on JDF attributes<br></div>--=
 Mike/Ira to review JDF attributes and propose <span><span>IPP</span></span=
> extensions<br><a href=3D"https://github.com/williamkapke/ipp" target=3D"_=
blank"><span></span></a><br>* IETF <span><span>IPP</span></span>/1.1 Update=
s (Mike/Ira)<br>- <a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-swee=
t-rfc2910bis-07.txt" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/=
draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-07.txt</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/inter=
net-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-06.txt" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ietf=
.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-06.txt</a><a href=3D"http://www=
.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018665.html" target=3D"_blank"><span></span></a>=
<br>-- changes for new IETF Proposed Standard<br><div>-- Barry Leiba (IETF =
ART AD) will be AD sponsor - note on 07/12/15<br>-- 2910bis and 2911bis rev=
iewed by <span><span>IPP</span></span> WG on 01/18/16<br></div><div>-- 2910=
bis OK and 2911bis needs minor terminology update<span></span><br></div>-- =
Schedule - IETF Last Call in Q1/Q2 2016<br><br></div><div>* IPP 3D Printing=
 Extensions (Mike)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp=
3d10-20160128-rev.pdf">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-2016012=
8-rev.pdf</a><br></div><div><span></span>-- Interim draft as IPP project sp=
ec on 01/28/16</div><div>-- not reviewed by IPP WG on 01/25/16<br></div><di=
v>-- Schedule - PWG F2F review on 02/11/16<br><br></div><div>* IPP 3D Subun=
it Collection Template (Mike)<br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archives/i=
pp/2016/018696.html">http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018696.html</a><b=
r></div><div>-- reviewed by IPP WG on 01/25/16<br></div><div>-- updated per=
 WIMS DMTF Printing MIB mapping table<br></div><div>-- Schedule - PWG F2F r=
eview on 02/11/16<br><br></div><div>* IPP 3D at Drupa (Paul, Anne)<br>- <a =
href=3D"http://www.drupa.com/">http://www.drupa.com/</a><br>-- Dusseldorf, =
Germany on 05/31/16 to 06/10/16 <br>-- 3D Fab &amp; Print group offered PWG=
 to have a sub-booth and give talks<br>-- PWG to present PWG 3D Printing st=
ory at 2:30pm on 06/03 and 06/06</div><div>-- Paul and Anne Price (PR Works=
) met last week to discuss details<br><br></div><div>(4) Review of IPP WG s=
lides for PWG F2F (Mike)<span class=3D""></span><span class=3D""></span><sp=
an class=3D""></span><span class=3D""></span><br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pw=
g.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-february-16.pdf" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<span class=3D"">ipp</span>/<s=
pan class=3D"">slides</span>/<span class=3D"">ipp</span>-<span class=3D"">w=
g</span>-agenda-february-16.pdf</a><br></div><div>-- Schedule - IPP WG revi=
ew on 02/01/16<br><br></div></div></div></div></div><div><div>(5) Review of=
 <span><span><span><span><span><span>IPP</span></span></span></span></span>=
</span> System Service (Ira/Mike)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pw=
g/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160117-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.=
org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160117-rev.pdf</a><br>-- Interim draft<=
br>-- Reviewed by <span><span>IPP</span></span> WG on 12/07/15 (Startup-All=
-Printers)<br>-- Reviewed by <span><span>IPP</span></span> WG on 01/04/16 (=
section 7.1 Op Attributes)<br></div><div>-- Removed redundant Restart-Xxx-P=
rinter(s) <br>-- Kept just Shutdown- &amp; Startup-Xxx-Printer(s)<br></div>=
<div>-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q1/Q2 2016<br><br></div><div>(6) Next=
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Paul,

> On Jan 30, 2016, at 6:34 PM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> Now that we have added IPP 3D as an approved work product to the IPP =
Work Group charter, should the text in the draft be updated to remove =
references to it being a =E2=80=9Cwhite paper=E2=80=9D?

I thought I had updated all of the references - can you point me at any =
stragglers?

> Also should the pages directly after the cover page be updated to drop =
the white paper boiler plate and to have it replaced with the PWG =
information typically included in a standards track document?

Yes, missed updating that boilerplate...  Will update...

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class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Now that =
we have added IPP 3D as an approved work product to the IPP Work Group =
charter, should the text in the draft be updated to remove references to =
it being a =E2=80=9Cwhite =
paper=E2=80=9D?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div>I =
thought I had updated all of the references - can you point me at any =
stragglers?</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; =
font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 10px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
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font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">Also should the pages directly =
after the cover page be updated to drop the white paper boiler plate and =
to have it replaced with the PWG information typically included in a =
standards track document?</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Yes, missed updating that boilerplate... =
&nbsp;Will update...</div><div><br class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D"">=

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Subject: [IPP] Updated interim draft of IPP 3D Printing Extensions posted
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All,

I have posted an updated interim draft of the IPP 3D Printing Extensions specification to:

	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160201.docx
	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160201.pdf
	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160201-rev.pdf

This version includes updated boilerplate front matter from the working draft template as well as fixing the one place I missed that still said "white paper".

We will be discussing this specification at the PWG Face-to-Face meeting on Thursday, February 11 at 9am PT.

_________________________________________________________
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Hi there,

At HP Inc. we have observed a phenomenon with the =
"finishings-col-database" similar to the "media-col-database": it can be =
quite large, and including it in with the rest of the job template =
attributes for each Get-Printer-Attributes response can have a negative =
impact on response times.  Would it be reasonable or acceptable to make =
it so that "finishings-col-database" was withheld from =
Get-Printer-Attributes responses unless it was explicitly named in the =
"requested-attributes" attribute included in the IPP request?  The =
"finishings-col-ready" could be included by default, but no the full =
database.

We can discuss this in person next week but I wanted to front load the =
topic.  I wasn't prepared to mention it in today's slide review and =
didn't want it to belabor the slide review process.

Thanks for your thoughts,

Smith

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All,

I have posted the minutes from today's IPP WG conference call to:

	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160201.pdf

Our next meeting is at the February face-to-face on Feb 10, 2016 at 1pm PT.

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Subject: Re: [IPP] Proposed Finishings 2.0 change: require "finishings-col-database" to not be returned by default - must be explicitly requested
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Smith,

I've added this to the list of issues in Finishings 2.0.

I'd have my concerns about having this be a MUST NOT since it might =
break existing Clients, but perhaps we could do something like:

Printers SHOULD NOT return the "finishings-col-database" attribute in =
response to a Get-Printer-Attributes request unless the Client supplies =
the "requested-attributes" operation attribute with the value =
'finishings-col-database'. Clients SHOULD supply the =
"requested-attributes" operation attribute whenever they require the =
current "finishings-col-database" value.

But we need to do a little research on this and make sure we don't break =
anything... :/


> On Feb 1, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) =
<smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
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"finishings-col-database" similar to the "media-col-database": it can be =
quite large, and including it in with the rest of the job template =
attributes for each Get-Printer-Attributes response can have a negative =
impact on response times.  Would it be reasonable or acceptable to make =
it so that "finishings-col-database" was withheld from =
Get-Printer-Attributes responses unless it was explicitly named in the =
"requested-attributes" attribute included in the IPP request?  The =
"finishings-col-ready" could be included by default, but no the full =
database.
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> We can discuss this in person next week but I wanted to front load the =
topic.  I wasn't prepared to mention it in today's slide review and =
didn't want it to belabor the slide review process.
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> Thanks for your thoughts,
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class=3D"">Smith,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I've=
 added this to the list of issues in Finishings 2.0.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I'd have my concerns =
about having this be a MUST NOT since it might break existing Clients, =
but perhaps we could do something like:</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; =
padding: 0px;" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Printers SHOULD NOT return the =
"finishings-col-database" attribute in response to a =
Get-Printer-Attributes request unless the Client supplies the =
"requested-attributes" operation attribute with the value =
'finishings-col-database'. Clients SHOULD supply the =
"requested-attributes" operation attribute whenever they require the =
current "finishings-col-database" value.</div></blockquote><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">But we need to do a =
little research on this and make sure we don't break anything... =
:/</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Feb 1, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Kennedy, Smith =
(Wireless Architect) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" =
class=3D"">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
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http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dus-ascii" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi there,<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">At HP Inc. we have =
observed a phenomenon with the "finishings-col-database" similar to the =
"media-col-database": it can be quite large, and including it in with =
the rest of the job template attributes for each Get-Printer-Attributes =
response can have a negative impact on response times. &nbsp;Would it be =
reasonable or acceptable to make it so that "finishings-col-database" =
was withheld from Get-Printer-Attributes responses unless it was =
explicitly named in the "requested-attributes" attribute included in the =
IPP request? &nbsp;The "finishings-col-ready" could be included by =
default, but no the full database.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">We can discuss this in person next week =
but I wanted to front load the topic. &nbsp;I wasn't prepared to mention =
it in today's slide review and didn't want it to belabor the slide =
review process.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thanks for your thoughts,</div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; =
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auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
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normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;" class=3D""><span style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: 2;" =
class=3D"">Smith</span><br style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=3D""><br=
 style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=3D""><span style=3D"orphans: 2; =
widows: 2;" class=3D"">/**</span><br style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: 2;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: ArialMT; =
background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
Smith Kennedy<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Wireless Architect - Client =
Software - IPG-PPS</span><span style=3D"font-family: ArialMT;" =
class=3D""></span><div style=3D"font-family: ArialMT;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=3D"">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF</span></div><div style=3D"font-family: ArialMT;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; PWG Chair<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; HP =
Inc.</span></div></div><div style=3D"font-family: ArialMT;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; orphans: 2; widows: 2;" =
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<br =
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Agreed - I share your concern about breaking backward compatibility.  =
And thanks for adding it to the agenda.

Smith



> On 2016-02-01, at 4:43 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
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> Smith,
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> I've added this to the list of issues in Finishings 2.0.
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> I'd have my concerns about having this be a MUST NOT since it might =
break existing Clients, but perhaps we could do something like:
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> Printers SHOULD NOT return the "finishings-col-database" attribute in =
response to a Get-Printer-Attributes request unless the Client supplies =
the "requested-attributes" operation attribute with the value =
'finishings-col-database'. Clients SHOULD supply the =
"requested-attributes" operation attribute whenever they require the =
current "finishings-col-database" value.
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> But we need to do a little research on this and make sure we don't =
break anything... :/
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>> On Feb 1, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) =
<smith.kennedy@hp.com <mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com>> wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi there,
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>> At HP Inc. we have observed a phenomenon with the =
"finishings-col-database" similar to the "media-col-database": it can be =
quite large, and including it in with the rest of the job template =
attributes for each Get-Printer-Attributes response can have a negative =
impact on response times.  Would it be reasonable or acceptable to make =
it so that "finishings-col-database" was withheld from =
Get-Printer-Attributes responses unless it was explicitly named in the =
"requested-attributes" attribute included in the IPP request?  The =
"finishings-col-ready" could be included by default, but no the full =
database.
>>=20
>> We can discuss this in person next week but I wanted to front load =
the topic.  I wasn't prepared to mention it in today's slide review and =
didn't want it to belabor the slide review process.
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>> Thanks for your thoughts,
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>> Smith
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>> /**
>>     Smith Kennedy
>>     Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
>>     Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
>>     PWG Chair
>>     HP Inc.
>> */
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Agreed - I share your concern about breaking backward =
compatibility. &nbsp;And thanks for adding it to the agenda.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">

</div>

<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On 2016-02-01, at 4:43 PM, Michael Sweet &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:msweet@apple.com" class=3D"">msweet@apple.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dus-ascii" class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Smith,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I've=
 added this to the list of issues in Finishings 2.0.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I'd have my concerns =
about having this be a MUST NOT since it might break existing Clients, =
but perhaps we could do something like:</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; =
padding: 0px;" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Printers SHOULD NOT return the =
"finishings-col-database" attribute in response to a =
Get-Printer-Attributes request unless the Client supplies the =
"requested-attributes" operation attribute with the value =
'finishings-col-database'. Clients SHOULD supply the =
"requested-attributes" operation attribute whenever they require the =
current "finishings-col-database" value.</div></blockquote><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">But we need to do a =
little research on this and make sure we don't break anything... =
:/</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
 class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Feb 1, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Kennedy, Smith =
(Wireless Architect) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" =
class=3D"">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi there,<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">At HP Inc. we have =
observed a phenomenon with the "finishings-col-database" similar to the =
"media-col-database": it can be quite large, and including it in with =
the rest of the job template attributes for each Get-Printer-Attributes =
response can have a negative impact on response times. &nbsp;Would it be =
reasonable or acceptable to make it so that "finishings-col-database" =
was withheld from Get-Printer-Attributes responses unless it was =
explicitly named in the "requested-attributes" attribute included in the =
IPP request? &nbsp;The "finishings-col-ready" could be included by =
default, but no the full database.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">We can discuss this in person next week =
but I wanted to front load the topic. &nbsp;I wasn't prepared to mention =
it in today's slide review and didn't want it to belabor the slide =
review process.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thanks for your thoughts,</div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=3D"">
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auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
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text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;" class=3D""><div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;" class=3D""><span style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: 2;" =
class=3D"">Smith</span><br style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=3D""><br=
 style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=3D""><span style=3D"orphans: 2; =
widows: 2;" class=3D"">/**</span><br style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: 2;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: ArialMT; =
background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
Smith Kennedy<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Wireless Architect - Client =
Software - IPG-PPS</span><span style=3D"font-family: ArialMT;" =
class=3D""></span><div style=3D"font-family: ArialMT;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=3D"">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF</span></div><div style=3D"font-family: ArialMT;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; PWG Chair<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; HP =
Inc.</span></div></div><div style=3D"font-family: ArialMT;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; orphans: 2; widows: 2;" =
class=3D"">*/</span><br style=3D"font-family: Arial; orphans: 2; widows: =
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class=3D"">_________________________________________________________<br =
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Hi,

Canon has requested an additional finishing feature called Eco Stapling. Pl=
ease review the attached proposal and let me know if you have any questions=
 about it.

Thank you,
Rick Yardumian

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Rick,

I'm adding this to the slide deck for Thursday afternoon (along with the other proposals).


> On Feb 4, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Yardumian, Rick <RYardumian@ciis.canon.com> wrote:
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> <Eco staple finishing proposal from Canon 20160204.pptx>

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Updates per IPP WG review on January 18th, 2016.  For review at the F2F.



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> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-07.txt
> Date: February 5, 2016 at 3:55:34 PM EST
> To: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
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> Name:		draft-sweet-rfc2911bis
> Revision:	07
> Title:		Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semantics
> Document date:	2016-02-05
> Group:		Individual Submission
> Pages:		215
> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-07.txt
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> Abstract:
>   This document is one of a set of documents, which together describe
>   all aspects of the Internet Printing Protocol (IPP).  IPP is an
>   application level protocol that can be used for distributed printing
>   using Internet tools and technologies.  This document describes a
>   simplified model consisting of abstract objects, their attributes,
>   and their operations that is independent of encoding and transport.
>   The model consists of several objects including Printers and Jobs.
>   Jobs optionally support multiple Documents.  IPP 1.1 semantics allow
>   End Users and Operators to query Printer capabilities, submit print
>   jobs, inquire about the status of print Jobs and printers, and
>   cancel, hold, and release print Jobs.  IPP 1.1 semantics allow
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Hi there,

I had a few bits of late feedback on the original RFC 2911, that seem to =
be still there in draft 07 of 2911bis.

1. Section 4.1.3 paragraph 3 says:

   The attributes within a group MUST be unique; if an attribute with
   the same name occurs more than once, the group is malformed.  Clients
   MUST NOT submit such malformed requests and Printers MUST NOT return
   such malformed responses.  If such a malformed request is submitted
   to a Printer, the Printer MUST either (1) reject the request with the
   'client-error-bad-request' status code (RECOMMENDED - see
   Appendix B.1.4.1 =
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-07#appendix-B.1.4.1>) =
or (2) process the request normally after selecting
   only one of the attribute instances, depending on implementation.
   Which attribute is selected when there are duplicate attributes
   depends on implementation.  The IPP Printer MUST NOT use the values
   from more than one such duplicate attribute instance.

I really dislike that there was an "either" in this paragraph.  I =
understand that the (2) was included to grandfather in some buggy =
IPP/1.0 implementations, but it seems like this second=20


2. In the last paragraph of section 4.1.3, it says:

                                     When an IPP object receives a
   request to perform an operation it does not support, it returns the
   'server-error-operation-not-supported' status code (see
   Appendix B.1.5.2).  An IPP object is non-conformant if it does not
   support a REQUIRED operation.

I don't understand why there is not a normative statement in the red =
phrase above - "it MUST return the =
'server-error-operation-not-supported' status code"? =20


3. As Mike pointed out to me at the end of today's IPP WG session, =
section 2.3.11 discusses the "design pattern" for job attribute =
definitions where to support a job template attribute "xxx" there are =
"xxx-supported" and "xxx-default" attributes also defined to support =
this.  But 2.3.11 doesn't seem to discuss the "printer settings" =
attribute tuple consisting of "xxx-configured" and "xxx-supported".  As =
we discussed, that should also be described, presumably in this same =
section.


Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
    PWG Chair
    HP Inc.
*/






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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi there,<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I had a few bits of late feedback on the =
original RFC 2911, that seem to be still there in draft 07 of =
2911bis.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">1.&nbsp;Section 4.1.3 paragraph 3 =
says:<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><pre =
class=3D"newpage" style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
page-break-before: always;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12px;" class=3D""> =
  The attributes within a group MUST be unique; if an attribute with
   the same name occurs more than once, the group is malformed.  Clients
   MUST NOT submit such malformed requests and Printers MUST NOT return
   such malformed responses.  If such a malformed request is submitted
   to a Printer, the Printer MUST <font color=3D"#ff2600" =
class=3D"">either</font> (1) reject the request with the
   'client-error-bad-request' status code (RECOMMENDED - see
   <a =
href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-07#appendix-B.1=
.4.1" class=3D"">Appendix B.1.4.1</a>) or <font color=3D"#ff2600" =
class=3D"">(2) process the request normally after selecting
   only one of the attribute instances, depending on implementation.
   Which attribute is selected when there are duplicate attributes
   depends on implementation.</font>  The IPP Printer MUST NOT use the =
values
   from more than one such duplicate attribute =
instance.</span></pre><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>I really =
dislike that there was an "either" in this paragraph. &nbsp;I understand =
that the (2) was included to grandfather in some buggy IPP/1.0 =
implementations, but it seems like this second&nbsp;<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">2. In the last paragraph of section 4.1.3, it =
says:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Courier" =
style=3D"font-size: 12px;" class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;When an IPP object receives =
a</font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Courier" style=3D"font-size: =
12px;" class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;request to perform an operation it does =
not support, <font color=3D"#ff2600" class=3D"">it returns =
the</font></font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Courier" =
style=3D"font-size: 12px;" class=3D""><font color=3D"#ff2600" =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;'server-error-operation-not-supported' status =
code</font> (see</font></div><div class=3D""><font face=3D"Courier" =
style=3D"font-size: 12px;" class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;Appendix B.1.5.2). =
&nbsp;An IPP object is non-conformant if it does not</font></div><div =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Courier" style=3D"font-size: 12px;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;support a REQUIRED operation.</font></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>I don't understand why there is not a =
normative statement in the red phrase above - "it MUST return the =
'server-error-operation-not-supported' status code"? &nbsp;<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">3. As Mike pointed out to me at the end of today's IPP WG =
session, section 2.3.11 discusses the "design pattern" for job attribute =
definitions where to support a job template attribute "xxx" there are =
"xxx-supported" and "xxx-default" attributes also defined to support =
this. &nbsp;But 2.3.11 doesn't seem to discuss the "printer settings" =
attribute tuple consisting of "xxx-configured" and "xxx-supported". =
&nbsp;As we discussed, that should also be described, presumably in this =
same section.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">/**<br class=3D"">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; Smith Kennedy<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Wireless Architect - =
Client Software - IPG-PPS<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Standards - IEEE =
ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; PWG Chair<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; HP =
Inc.<br class=3D"">*/<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><br class=3D""></div></div></body></html>=

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Subject: [IPP] Minutes posted from the face-to-face
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All,

I have posted the minutes from the face-to-face meeting to:

	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20160210.pdf

Our next conference call is on February 22, 2016 at 1pm PT / 4pm ET to further discuss the 3D printing extensions.  I hope to have an updated draft posted before then.

Thank you all for attending - we had a very lively and productive meeting!

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This update contains all of the changes as discussed in the F2F and on the mailing list.

> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-08.txt
> Date: February 12, 2016 at 10:12:00 AM PST
> To: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
> 
> 
> A new version of I-D, draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-08.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Michael Sweet and posted to the
> IETF repository.
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> Name:		draft-sweet-rfc2911bis
> Revision:	08
> Title:		Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semantics
> Document date:	2016-02-12
> Group:		Individual Submission
> Pages:		216
> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-08.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis/
> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-08
> Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-08
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> Abstract:
>   This document is one of a set of documents, which together describe
>   all aspects of the Internet Printing Protocol (IPP).  IPP is an
>   application level protocol that can be used for distributed printing
>   using Internet tools and technologies.  This document describes a
>   simplified model consisting of abstract objects, their attributes,
>   and their operations that is independent of encoding and transport.
>   The model consists of several objects including Printers and Jobs.
>   Jobs optionally support multiple Documents.  IPP 1.1 semantics allow
>   End Users and Operators to query Printer capabilities, submit print
>   jobs, inquire about the status of print Jobs and printers, and
>   cancel, hold, and release print Jobs.  IPP 1.1 semantics allow
>   Operators to pause and resume (Jobs from) Printer objects.  This
>   document also addresses security, internationalization, and directory
>   issues.
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Subject: [IPP] Updated interim draft of IPP 3D Printing Extensions Posted
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All,

I have posted an updated interim draft of the IPP 3D Printing Extensions specification to:

	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160217.docx
	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160217.pdf
	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160217-rev.pdf

This draft has major changes from the one reviewed at the face-to-face, including:

- All of the process-specific Job Template attributes were replaced by a new intent-based attribute called "print-quality-details".
- All of the sub-unit status attributes were removed since we decided to rework how subunits are exposed.
- I've added a section on discovery and document formats with some initial content.

We'll review this document at the IPP WG conference call next Monday (agenda will be posted shortly).

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Hi,

Our next IPP 3D Printing call will be Monday 22 February 1-2pm US Pacific / 4-5pm US Eastern

Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
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Meeting information
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Topic: IPP 3D Printing
Date: Monday (opposite weeks to regular IPP WG call)
Time: 4:00pm US Eastern (after Semantic Model call at 3:00PM)
Meeting Number: 682 763 393
Meeting Password: Printing123
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Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160201.pdf
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20160210.pdf

(3) Review of IPP 3D Printing (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160217-rev.pdf

(4) Next steps
- IPP WG call on Monday 29 February 2016 at 3-5pm US Eastern 

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All,

I posted some slides for this afternoon's conference call to:

    http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-20160222.pdf


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All,

I have posted the minutes from today's IPP WG conference call to:

	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160222.pdf

Our next regular conference call is on February 29, 2016 at 3pm ET.  Our next 3D Printing conference call is on March 7, 2016 at 4pm ET.

Thank you all for your participation and feedback!

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Thread-Topic: Request to add "orientation-requested" as a child of "finishings-col" to Finishings 2.0 Errata
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Subject: [IPP] Request to add "orientation-requested" as a child of "finishings-col" to Finishings 2.0 Errata
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Greetings,

HP proposes that the "orientation-requested" attribute be added as a =
child attribute of "finishings-col" in the updates being added to =
Finishings 2.0.  The use case is that a particular set of finishings =
choices may vary depending on the orientation of the page.  For an A3 =
printer, if the job could be output long edge or short edge, there may =
be discrete "finishings-col" sets to support both of these scenarios.

Cheers,=20
Smith

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Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be Monday 29 February 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm
US Eastern

Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

Attendee Access Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

NOTE:  Please DO NOT USE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx
- instead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above!

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Meeting information
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Topic: IPP/Cloud WG
Date: Every Monday, from Monday, September 23, 2013 to no end date
Time: 3:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)
Meeting Number: 682 763 393
Meeting Password: Printing123
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Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160222.pdf

(3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike/Smith)
* IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification (SELFCERT) (Mike)
-- PWG Formal Vote started 01/19/16 - ended 02/19/16
-- PWG Approved as PWG 5100.20-2016!

* IPP Job Password Repertoire" (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp
/wd/wp-job-password-repertoire-20160101-rev.pdf
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018661.html
-- Reviewed by IPP WG on 12/07/15
-- Plan is to register stand-alone (without enclosing IPP spec)
-- Reviewed at PWG F2F on 02/11/16
-- Need to prepare registration templates and review by IPP WG
-- Schedule - IANA registration in Q1 2016

* IPP Staple and Punch Origins/Angles/Dimensions (Smith/Ira/Mike)
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018651.html
-- off-list discussion on 11/06/15 to 11/09/15 started by Smith
-- potential errata update to IPP Finishings 2.0 based on JDF attributes
-- Smith/Mike/Ira to review JDF attributes and propose IPP extensions
-- Smith has started Finishings 2.1 edits
<https://github.com/williamkapke/ipp>
* IETF IPP/1.1 Updates (Mike/Ira)
- http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-07.txt
- http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-08.txt
<http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018665.html>
-- changes for new IETF Proposed Standard
-- Barry Leiba (IETF ART AD) will be AD sponsor - note on 07/12/15
-- 2910bis and 2911bis reviewed by PWG F2F on 02/10/16
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018715.html
-- More 2911bis feedback on 02/11/16 (from HP)
-- Mike to do minor edits to 2911bis for IPP System Service alignment
-- Schedule - IETF Last Call in Q1/Q2 2016

* IPP 3D Printing Extensions (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160217-rev.pdf
-- Interim draft as IPP project spec on 01/28/16
-- Reviewed by PWG F2F on 02/11/16 - stopped at section 5
-- not reviewed by IPP WG (3D session) on 02/22/16
-- Schedule - IPP WG review on 03/07/16

* IPP 3D Subunit Collection Template (Mike)
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018696.html
-- reviewed by IPP WG on 01/25/16

* IPP 3D at Drupa (Paul, Anne)
- http://www.drupa.com/
-- Dusseldorf, Germany on 05/31/16 to 06/10/16
-- 3D Fab & Print group offered PWG to have a sub-booth and give talks
-- Paul / PWG to present PWG 3D Printing story at 2:30pm on 06/03 and 06/06
-- Paul and Anne Price (PR Works) met last week to discuss details

(4) Finishings 2.1 (Smith/Mike)
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018708.html
(4) Review of IPP WG slides for PWG F2F (Mike)
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018651.html
-- Staple and Punch (from HP)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-february-16.pdf
-- Do NOT return "finishings-col-database" by default (from HP)
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018712.html
-- Eco Staple (from Canon)
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018723.html
-- Add "orientation-requested" to "finishings-col" (from HP)
- and possibly some other Finishings 2.1 updates that I've missed...
-- Schedule - TBD - discuss next steps today

(5) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160228-rev.pdf
-- Interim draft
-- Reviewed by PWG F2F on 02/10/16 - stopped at section 7.3.13
-- Ira to add collection members in sections 7.2 and 7.3 (and later?)
-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q1/Q2 2016

(6) Next steps
- IPP 3D call on Monday 7 March 2016 at 4-5pm US Eastern
- IPP WG call on Monday 14 March 2016 at 3-5pm US Eastern

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br>Our next <span><span><span><span=
><span><span><span class=3D"">IPP</span></span></span></span></span></span>=
</span> WG call will be Monday 29 February 12-<span><span>2pm</span></span>=
 US Pacific / <span><span>3-5pm</span></span> US Eastern<br>
<br>
Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:1-866-469-3239" value=
=3D"+18664693239" target=3D"_blank">1-866-469-3239</a><br>
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:1-650-429-3300" value=3D"+1=
6504293300" target=3D"_blank">1-650-429-3300</a> (Primary)<br>
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:1-408-856-9570" value=3D"+1=
4088569570" target=3D"_blank">1-408-856-9570</a> (Backup)<br>
<br>
Attendee Access Code: *******#<br>
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">NOTE:=C2=A0 Please DO NOT U=
SE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx<br>
- instead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above!</span><br>
<br>
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Meeting information<br>
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Topic: <span><span><span><span><span><span><span class=3D"">IPP</span></spa=
n></span></span></span></span></span>/Cloud WG<br>
Date: Every Monday, from Monday, September 23, 2013 to no end date<br>
Time: 3:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)<br>
Meeting Number: 682 763 393<br>
Meeting Password: Printing123<br>
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422&amp;UID=3D1183762537&amp;PW=3DNYTM5NTNhNjUy&amp;RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D" targ=
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<br>
<span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span class=3D"">Agenda</sp=
an></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span>:<br>
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and <span><span><span><span><span><span><s=
pan><span><span class=3D"">Agenda</span></span></span></span></span></span>=
</span></span></span> Review<br>
- Mike as minute taker?<br>
<br>
(2) Approve <span><span><span><span><span><span><span class=3D"">IPP</span>=
</span></span></span></span></span></span> minutes from previous meetings<b=
r>
- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-2=
0160222.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2=
-concall-minutes-20160222.pdf</a><br><br>
(3) Status of various <span><span><span><span><span><span><span class=3D"">=
IPP</span></span></span></span></span></span></span> documents (Ira/Mike/Sm=
ith)<br><div>* <span><span><span><span><span><span><span class=3D"">IPP</sp=
an></span></span></span></span></span></span> Everywhere Printer Self-Certi=
fication (SELFCERT) (Mike)<br>
-- PWG Formal Vote started 01/19/16 - ended 02/19/16<br></div><div>-- PWG A=
pproved as PWG 5100.20-2016!<br></div><div><br><span>* <span><span class=3D=
"">IPP</span></span></span> Job Password Repertoire&quot; (Smith)<br><div>-=
 <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wp-job-password-repertoire-20=
160101-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<span><span cl=
ass=3D"">ipp</span></span>/wd/wp-job-password-repertoire-20160101-rev.pdf</=
a><br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015/018661.html" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.pwg.org/archives/<span>ipp</span>/2015/018661.html</=
a><br></div><div>-- Reviewed by <span><span><span class=3D"">IPP</span></sp=
an></span> WG on 12/07/15<br></div><div>-- Plan is to register stand-alone =
(without enclosing <span><span><span class=3D"">IPP</span></span></span> sp=
ec)<br></div><div>-- Reviewed at PWG F2F on 02/11/16<br></div><div>-- Need =
to prepare registration templates and review by IPP WG<br></div><div>-- Sch=
edule -<span></span> IANA registration in Q1 2016<br></div><br>*  <span><sp=
an><span class=3D"">IPP</span></span></span> Staple and Punch Origins/Angle=
s/Dimensions (Smith/Ira/Mike)<br><div>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archi=
ves/ipp/2015/018651.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.pwg.org/archives/<sp=
an>ipp</span>/2015/018651.html</a><br></div><div>-- off-list discussion on =
11/06/15 to 11/09/15 started by Smith<br>-- potential errata update to <spa=
n><span><span class=3D"">IPP</span></span></span> Finishings 2.0 based on J=
DF attributes<br></div>-- Smith/Mike/Ira to review JDF attributes and propo=
se <span><span><span class=3D"">IPP</span></span></span> extensions<br></di=
v><div>-- Smith has started Finishings 2.1 edits<br></div><div><a href=3D"h=
ttps://github.com/williamkapke/ipp" target=3D"_blank"><span></span></a><br>=
* IETF <span><span><span class=3D"">IPP</span></span></span>/1.1 Updates (M=
ike/Ira)<br>- <a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rf=
c2910bis-07.txt" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draf=
t-sweet-rfc2910bis-07.txt</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-=
drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-08.txt" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ietf.org=
/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-08.txt</a><a href=3D"http://www.pwg=
.org/archives/ipp/2015/018665.html" target=3D"_blank"><span></span></a><br>=
-- changes for new IETF Proposed Standard<br><div>-- Barry Leiba (IETF ART =
AD) will be AD sponsor - note on 07/12/15<br>-- 2910bis and 2911bis reviewe=
d by PWG F2F <span><span><span class=3D""></span></span></span> on 02/10/16=
<br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018715.html">http://w=
ww.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018715.html</a><br></div><div>-- More 2911bis =
feedback on 02/11/16 (from HP)<br></div><div>-- Mike to do minor edits to 2=
911bis for IPP System Service alignment <br></div>-- Schedule - IETF Last C=
all in Q1/Q2 2016<br><br></div><div>* <span class=3D"">IPP</span> 3D Printi=
ng Extensions (Mike)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-i=
pp3d10-20160217-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/w=
d/wd-ipp3d10-20160217-rev.pdf</a><br></div><div><span></span>-- Interim dra=
ft as <span class=3D"">IPP</span> project spec on 01/28/16<br></div><div>--=
 Reviewed by PWG F2F on 02/11/16 - stopped at section 5<br></div><div>-- no=
t reviewed by <span class=3D"">IPP</span> WG (3D session) on 02/22/16<br></=
div><div>-- Schedule - IPP WG review on 03/07/16<br><br></div><div>* <span =
class=3D"">IPP</span> 3D Subunit Collection Template (Mike)<br>- <a href=3D=
"http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018696.html" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/www.pwg.org/archives/<span class=3D"">ipp</span>/2016/018696.html</a><br><=
/div><div>-- reviewed by <span class=3D"">IPP</span> WG on 01/25/16<br></di=
v><div><br></div><div>* <span class=3D"">IPP</span> 3D at Drupa (Paul, Anne=
)<br>- <a href=3D"http://www.drupa.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.drupa=
.com/</a><br>-- Dusseldorf, Germany on 05/31/16 to 06/10/16 <br></div><div>=
-- 3D Fab &amp; Print group offered PWG to have a sub-booth and give talks<=
br>-- Paul / PWG to present PWG 3D Printing story at 2:30pm on 06/03 and 06=
/06</div><div>-- Paul and Anne Price (PR Works) met last week to discuss de=
tails<br><br></div><div>(4) Finishings 2.1 (Smith/Mike)<br></div><div>- <a =
href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018708.html">http://www.pwg.or=
g/archives/ipp/2016/018708.html</a><br></div><div>(4) Review of <span class=
=3D"">IPP</span> WG slides for PWG F2F (Mike)<br><span></span><span></span>=
<span></span><span></span>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2015=
/018651.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.pwg.org/archives/<span>ipp</span=
>/2015/018651.html</a><br></div><div>-- Staple and Punch (from HP)<br></div=
><div>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-febr=
uary-16.pdf" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pw=
g/<span><span class=3D"">ipp</span></span>/<span>slides</span>/<span><span =
class=3D"">ipp</span></span>-<span>wg</span>-<span class=3D"">agenda</span>=
-february-16.pdf</a><br></div><div>-- Do NOT return &quot;finishings-col-da=
tabase&quot; by default (from HP)<br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archiv=
es/ipp/2016/018712.html">http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018712.html</=
a><br></div><div>-- Eco Staple (from Canon)<br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.=
org/archives/ipp/2016/018723.html">http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018=
723.html</a><br></div><div>-- Add &quot;orientation-requested&quot; to &quo=
t;finishings-col&quot; (from HP)<br></div><div>- and possibly some other Fi=
nishings 2.1 updates that I&#39;ve missed...<br></div><div>-- Schedule - <s=
pan class=3D"">TBD - discuss next steps today</span><br><br></div></div></d=
iv></div></div><div><div>(5) Review of <span><span><span><span><span><span>=
<span class=3D"">IPP</span></span></span></span></span></span></span> Syste=
m Service (Ira/Mike)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-i=
ppsystem10-20160228-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/i=
pp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160228-rev.pdf</a><br>-- Interim draft<br>-- Reviewe=
d by <span><span><span class=3D"">PWG F2F on 02/10/16 - stopped at section =
7.3.13</span></span></span><br></div><div>-- Ira to add collection members =
in sections 7.2 and 7.3 (and later?)<br></div><div>-- Schedule - Prototype =
draft in Q1/Q2 2016<br><br></div><div>(6) Next steps<span></span><span><spa=
n></span></span></div><span></span><span><span><span><span><span class=3D""=
></span></span></span></span></span></div>- <span><span><span><span><span c=
lass=3D"">IPP</span></span></span></span></span> 3D call on Monday 7 March =
2016 at 4-5pm US Eastern<br>- <span><span><span><span><span class=3D"">IPP<=
/span></span></span></span></span> WG call on Monday 14 March 2016 at 3-5pm=
 US Eastern<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br><br><div><div class=3D"gmail_sig=
nature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co=
-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open=
 Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - I=
EEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP =
&amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style=3D"color:=
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olor:rgb(102,0,204)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a =
href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gma=
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Hi,

[posting delayed yesterday due to PWG host outage]

I have just posted another Interim draft of IPP System Service for
review during the IPP WG call today:

  http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160228-rev.pdf
  - PDF with line numbers and redlines

  http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160228-rev.docx
  - MS Word source with line numbers and redlines

This draft contains most of the proposed changes from the recent
reviews.  Still to be done is adding the member attribute definitions
for the collections in 7.2 and 7.3 (mostly Power groups).

Cheers,
- Ira

-------------------------------
Change History:

16.1 28 January 2016
- Interim draft =E2=80=93 changes per PWG F2F review on 10 February 2016
- global =E2=80=93 kept some redlines from previous versions for review by =
IPP WG
- global =E2=80=93 changed =E2=80=9Cas described in [xxx]=E2=80=9D to =E2=
=80=9Cdefined in [xxx]=E2=80=9D for clarity
- global =E2=80=93 manually changed lowercase =E2=80=9C system Administrato=
r=E2=80=9D to titlecase
=E2=80=9C Administrator=E2=80=9D, lowercase =E2=80=9C operator=E2=80=9D to =
titlecase =E2=80=9C Operator=E2=80=9D, and
standalone =E2=80=9C user=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9C User=E2=80=9D to titlecase =
=E2=80=9C End User=E2=80=9D
- global =E2=80=93 changed =E2=80=9Cspecifies [a/the] list of=E2=80=9D to s=
imply =E2=80=9Clists=E2=80=9D
- global =E2=80=93 accepted all redlines in section 7.1 System, Printer, an=
d
Resource Operation Attributes, section 7.2 System Description Attributes,
and section 7.3 System Status Attributes up through section 7.3.13
system-health before making current changes for readability
- revised section 2.3 Printing Terminology to add definitions of
Administrator, End User, and Operator from RFC 2911bis (taken from RFC
2567) and Delivery Method, Event Notification, Notification, Owner,
Resource, and Subscription (taken from PWG 5108.01, PWG 5108.03, or RFC
3995)
- added section 3.2.5 Bootstrapping Client Access to Default Print Service
and added cross-reference to section 7.2.10 system-default-printer-uri
- revised section 7.1 System, Printer, and Resource Operation Attributes,
section 7.2 System Description Attributes, and section 7.3 System Status
Attributes to attach second sentence (semantic equivalence or analogy) to
first sentence for clarity
- revised sections 7.2.7, 7.2.8, and 7.2.9 to add =E2=80=9C-policy=E2=80=9D=
 suffix to
=E2=80=9Cpower-calendar=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cpower-event=E2=80=9D, and =E2=80=
=9Cpower-timeout=E2=80=9D collection System
Description attributes
- revised section 7.2.10 system-default-printer-uri to change syntax to
=E2=80=9C(uri | no-value=E2=80=9D)
- revised section 7.2.11 system-geo-location to change syntax to =E2=80=9C(=
uri |
unknown)=E2=80=9D
- revised section 14.2 Informative References to add RFC 2567

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div><div>[posting de=
layed yesterday due to PWG host outage]<br></div><div><br></div>I have just=
 <span>posted</span> another Interim draft of <span><span><span>IPP</span><=
/span></span> <span><span><span><span class=3D"">System</span></span></span=
></span> <span></span><span><span><span class=3D"">Service</span></span></s=
pan> for<br>review during the IPP WG call today:<br><br></div>=C2=A0 <a hre=
f=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160228-rev.pdf" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160228-re=
v.pdf</a><br>

=C2=A0 - PDF with line numbers and redlines<br>=C2=A0 <br>=C2=A0 <a href=3D=
"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160228-rev.docx" target=
=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160228-rev.d=
ocx</a><br>=C2=A0 - MS Word source with line numbers and redlines<br>
<br></div><div>This draft contains most of the proposed changes from the re=
cent<br></div><div>reviews.=C2=A0 Still to be done is adding the member att=
ribute definitions<br></div><div>for the collections in 7.2 and 7.3 (mostly=
 Power groups).<br></div><div><br>
</div>Cheers,<br></div></div>- Ira<br><br>-------------------------------<b=
r>
Change History:<br><br>16.1 28 January 2016<br>- Interim draft =E2=80=93 ch=
anges per PWG F2F review on 10 February 2016<br>- global =E2=80=93 kept som=
e redlines from previous versions for review by IPP WG<br>- global =E2=80=
=93 changed =E2=80=9Cas described in [xxx]=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9Cdefined in =
[xxx]=E2=80=9D for clarity<br>- global =E2=80=93 manually changed lowercase=
 =E2=80=9C system Administrator=E2=80=9D to titlecase =E2=80=9C Administrat=
or=E2=80=9D, lowercase =E2=80=9C operator=E2=80=9D to titlecase =E2=80=9C O=
perator=E2=80=9D, and standalone =E2=80=9C user=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9C User=
=E2=80=9D to titlecase =E2=80=9C End User=E2=80=9D <br>- global =E2=80=93 c=
hanged =E2=80=9Cspecifies [a/the] list of=E2=80=9D to simply =E2=80=9Clists=
=E2=80=9D<br>- global =E2=80=93 accepted all redlines in section 7.1 System=
, Printer, and Resource Operation Attributes, section 7.2 System Descriptio=
n Attributes, and section 7.3 System Status Attributes up through section 7=
.3.13 system-health before making current changes for readability<br>- revi=
sed section 2.3 Printing Terminology to add definitions of Administrator, E=
nd User, and Operator from RFC 2911bis (taken from RFC 2567) and Delivery M=
ethod, Event Notification, Notification, Owner, Resource, and Subscription =
(taken from PWG 5108.01, PWG 5108.03, or RFC 3995)<br>- added section 3.2.5=
 Bootstrapping Client Access to Default Print Service and added cross-refer=
ence to section 7.2.10 system-default-printer-uri<br>- revised section 7.1 =
System, Printer, and Resource Operation Attributes, section 7.2 System Desc=
ription Attributes, and section 7.3 System Status Attributes to attach seco=
nd sentence (semantic equivalence or analogy) to first sentence for clarity=
<br>- revised sections 7.2.7, 7.2.8, and 7.2.9 to add =E2=80=9C-policy=E2=
=80=9D suffix to =E2=80=9Cpower-calendar=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cpower-event=E2=
=80=9D, and =E2=80=9Cpower-timeout=E2=80=9D collection System Description a=
ttributes <br>- revised section 7.2.10 system-default-printer-uri to change=
 syntax to =E2=80=9C(uri | no-value=E2=80=9D)<br>- revised section 7.2.11 s=
ystem-geo-location to change syntax to =E2=80=9C(uri | unknown)=E2=80=9D<br=
>- revised section 14.2 Informative References to add RFC 2567 <br><br><br>=
<div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><br><div style=
=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D=
"display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></=
div></div>
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Thread-Topic: Request to add "feed-orientation" as a child of "finishings-col" to Finishings 2.0 Errata
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Subject: [IPP] Request to add "feed-orientation" as a child of "finishings-col" to Finishings 2.0 Errata
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Greetings,

HP previously proposed to have "orientation-requested" attribute added =
as a child attribute of "finishings-col" in the updates being added to =
Finishings 2.0.  In support of the same or related use cases, HP =
proposes that the "feed-orientation" attribute should also be added as =
an optional child attribute of "finishings-col".

Cheers,
Smith

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Forum / USB IF
    PWG Chair
    HP Inc.
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Let's discuss this at today's meeting.  I'm concerned about having feed-orientation influencing what finishing processes can be applied - that could yield finishing processes that work from one tray but not another, which isn't good for usability...  And it unnecessarily ties finishing templates to media paths, which gets us uncomfortably into specifying process vs. intent.


> On Feb 29, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
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> Greetings,
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> HP previously proposed to have "orientation-requested" attribute added as a child attribute of "finishings-col" in the updates being added to Finishings 2.0.  In support of the same or related use cases, HP proposes that the "feed-orientation" attribute should also be added as an optional child attribute of "finishings-col".
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Subject: [IPP] Registration template for Job Password Repertoire attributes and values
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All,

The following registrations define the Job Password Repertoire attributes and values as described in:

	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wp-job-password-repertoire-20160101.pdf

Printer Description attributes:					Reference
-------------------------------					---------
job-password-length-supported (rangeOfInteger(0:255))		[IPPWG20160229-1]
job-password-repertoire-configured (name(MAX) | type2 keyword)	[IPPWG20160229-1]
job-password-repertoire-supported (1setOf (name(MAX) | type2 keyword))	[IPPWG20160229-1]

Attributes (attribute syntax)
  Keyword Attribute Value					Reference
  -----------------------					---------
job-password-encryption-supported (1setOf type2 keyword)	[PWG5100.11]
  md2(deprecated)						[IPPWG20160229-1]
  md4(deprecated)						[IPPWG20160229-1]
  md5(deprecated)						[IPPWG20160229-1]
  sha(deprecated)						[IPPWG20160229-1]
job-password-repertoire-configured (name(MAX) | type2 keyword)	[IPPWG20160229-1]
  < any "job-password-repertoire-supported" value >		[IPPWG20160229-1]
job-password-repertoire-supported (1setOf (name(MAX) | type2 keyword))	[IPPWG20160229-1]
  iana_us-ascii_digits						[IPPWG20160229-1]
  iana_us-ascii_letters						[IPPWG20160229-1]
  iana_us-ascii_complex						[IPPWG20160229-1]
  iana_us-ascii_any						[IPPWG20160229-1]
  iana_utf-8_digits						[IPPWG20160229-1]
  iana_utf-8_letters						[IPPWG20160229-1]
  iana_utf-8_any						[IPPWG20160229-1]

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Subject: [IPP] Registration Template for media sizes
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All,

The following registrations define new media size names in accordance with the self-describing name syntax in MSN2:

Attributes (attribute syntax)
 Keyword Attribute Value					Reference
 -----------------------					---------
media (name(MAX) | type2 keyword)				[RFC2911]
  na_arch-e2_26x38in						[IPPWG20160229-2]
  na_arch-e3_27x39in						[IPPWG20160229-2]
  oe_12x16_12x16in						[IPPWG20160229-2]
  oe_14x17_14x17in						[IPPWG20160229-2]
  oe_18x22_18x22in						[IPPWG20160229-2]
  oe_a2plus_17x24in						[IPPWG20160229-2]
  oe_photo-10r_10x12in						[IPPWG20160229-2]
  oe_photo-s10r_10x15in						[IPPWG20160229-2]
  oe_photo-20r_20x24in						[IPPWG20160229-2]

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Thanks for the feedback, Mike.  I'll reply before our IPP WG meeting on =
3/14 with some content articulating the problems we are trying to solve =
with this, including some illustrations.  More soon.

Smith



> On 2016-02-29, at 12:04 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
>=20
> Let's discuss this at today's meeting.  I'm concerned about having =
feed-orientation influencing what finishing processes can be applied - =
that could yield finishing processes that work from one tray but not =
another, which isn't good for usability...  And it unnecessarily ties =
finishing templates to media paths, which gets us uncomfortably into =
specifying process vs. intent.
>=20
>=20
>> On Feb 29, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) =
<smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Greetings,
>>=20
>> HP previously proposed to have "orientation-requested" attribute =
added as a child attribute of "finishings-col" in the updates being =
added to Finishings 2.0.  In support of the same or related use cases, =
HP proposes that the "feed-orientation" attribute should also be added =
as an optional child attribute of "finishings-col".
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>> Smith
>>=20
>> /**
>>    Smith Kennedy
>>    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
>>    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
>>    PWG Chair
>>    HP Inc.
>> */
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> _______________________________________________
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> _________________________________________________________
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Subject: [IPP] Minutes posted from today's meeting
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All,

I have posted the minutes from today's IPP WG conference call to:

	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160229.pdf

Our next conference call will be on March 7, 2016 at 4pm to discuss the IPP 3D Printing Extensions.

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