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IETF Last Call starting soon on RFC 2911bis (IPP/1.1 Model and Semantics). Cheers, - Ira ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Alexey Melnikov Date: Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:49 AM Subject: Re: ID Tracker State Update Notice: To: draft-sweet-rfc2911bis@ietf.org Cc: ben@nostrum.com, Barry Leiba , aamelnikov@fastmail.fm, alissa@cooperw.in Hi, On 01/07/2016 13:46, IETF Secretariat wrote: > IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation > ID Tracker URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis/ > I reviewed 1/3rd of the document. I found some minor issues, but they can be fixed during or after IETF LC. I will try to finish my review ASAP. I started IETF LC in order not to delay the document. Considering that this is a -bis document, I am not concerned about any major issues. --001a1143e172188ee1053693a78d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

More progress.
IETF Last Call starting soon on RFC 2911bis (IPP/1.1 Model and Seman= tics).

Cheers,
- Ira

=

---------- Forwarded message ----------
F= rom: Alexey Melnikov &l= t;alexey.melnikov@isode.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: ID Tracke= r State Update Notice: <draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-09.txt>
To: draft-sweet-rfc2911bis@ietf.org=
Cc: ben@nostrum.com, Barry L= eiba <barryleiba@computer.org= >, aamelnikov@fastmail.fm<= /a>, alissa@cooperw.in


= Hi,

On 01/07/2016 13:46, IETF Secretariat wrote:
IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation
ID Tracker URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org= /doc/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis/
 I reviewed 1/3rd of the document. I found some minor issues, but they can b= e fixed during or after IETF LC. I will try to finish my review ASAP.

I started IETF LC in order not to delay the document. Considering that this= is a -bis document, I am not concerned about any major issues.



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Cheers, - Ira ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: The IESG Date: Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:47 AM Subject: Last Call: (Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semantics) to Proposed Standard To: IETF-Announce Cc: alexey.melnikov@isode.com, Barry Leiba , draft-sweet-rfc2911bis@ietf.org The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semantics' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2016-07-29. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document is one of a set of documents, which together describe all aspects of the Internet Printing Protocol (IPP). IPP is an application level protocol that can be used for distributed printing using Internet tools and technologies. This document describes a simplified model consisting of abstract objects, their attributes, and their operations that is independent of encoding and transport. The model consists of several objects including Printers and Jobs. Jobs optionally support multiple Documents. IPP 1.1 semantics allow End Users and Operators to query Printer capabilities, submit print jobs, inquire about the status of print Jobs and printers, and cancel, hold, and release print Jobs. IPP 1.1 semantics allow Operators to pause and resume (Jobs from) Printer objects. This document also addresses security, internationalization, and directory issues. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. --001a113f972690c7aa05369645aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

More progress - IETF = Last Call on RFC2911bis started today and
will end 07/29/16 (before the = IESG telechat in early August).

Cheers,
- Ira

---------- Forwarded message ----------
F= rom: The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
Date: Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:47 AM
Subject: Last Call: <draft-sw= eet-rfc2911bis-09.txt> (Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semant= ics) to Proposed Standard
To: IETF-Announce <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
Cc: alexey.melnikov@isode.com, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, <= a href=3D"mailto:draft-sweet-rfc2911bis@ietf.org">draft-sweet-rfc2911bis@ie= tf.org



The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document:
- 'Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semantics'
=C2=A0 <draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-09.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2016-07= -29. Exceptionally, comments may be
sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In eith= er case, please retain the
beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract


=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document is one of a set of documents, which together des= cribe
=C2=A0 =C2=A0all aspects of the Internet Printing Protocol (IPP).=C2=A0 IPP= is an
=C2=A0 =C2=A0application level protocol that can be used for distributed pr= inting
=C2=A0 =C2=A0using Internet tools and technologies.=C2=A0 This document des= cribes a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0simplified model consisting of abstract objects, their attribu= tes,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and their operations that is independent of encoding and trans= port.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The model consists of several objects including Printers and J= obs.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Jobs optionally support multiple Documents.=C2=A0 IPP 1.1 sema= ntics allow
=C2=A0 =C2=A0End Users and Operators to query Printer capabilities, submit = print
=C2=A0 =C2=A0jobs, inquire about the status of print Jobs and printers, and=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0cancel, hold, and release print Jobs.=C2=A0 IPP 1.1 semantics = allow
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Operators to pause and resume (Jobs from) Printer objects.=C2= =A0 This
=C2=A0 =C2=A0document also addresses security, internationalization, and di= rectory
=C2=A0 =C2=A0issues.




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sweet= -rfc2911bis/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draf= t-sweet-rfc2911bis/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.



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Tue, 5 Jul 2016 06:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.153.89.187] (unknown [17.153.89.187]) by nwk-mmpp-sz07.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Mar 31 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0O9U00ABSF86I930@nwk-mmpp-sz07.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 06:09:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 09:09:42 -0400 Message-id: References: To: "Yardumian, Rick" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrMLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FAYpTt3Y3W4wZrvhhbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxtKG3UwFlyMqFm44ztbA2OXbxcjJISFgIjHpyFQ2CFtM4sK9 9UA2F4eQwF5GiZ3vGxlhijZN+cQCkVjOJLHz9F9mkISQwGwmia338kFsYQEJieP9C1khbDeJ nmUvwabyCuhJTD7aAGRzcDALJEkc31cNEmYTUJP4PakPrJxTIEJi1vYnYOUsAqoSq38/YAex mQXkJRruXGGBGGMjceLKL3aIteESU+79YQYZKSJgKDH9JSvEmbIST04uAjtTQmAHm8Sv1cvZ JjAKz0JyxSyEK2aBbdCWWLbwNTOErSmxv3s5C6a4hkTnt4msCxjZVjEK5SZm5uhm5pnpJRYU 5KTqJefnbmIExcJ0O9EdjGdWWR1iFOBgVOLhPbGwKlyINbGsuDL3EKM0B4uSOG/pZqCQQHpi SWp2ampBalF8UWlOavEhRiYOTqkGxsP77Q5/Up+QIzL3girfQ4N6Nq9NTGE3WKJY7EWOvLP+ 82v589ZtQT4+cixnpG1fO4rHe/6qinS3Mrx+58l2hp1mBrx7VO9cff/x2Sn12T9+//9tvpbx qIrgO+5/4c+aDQ1Tz7bv/SD16X8n39pzx7JtZfiY/pp9X9/Q/rHves2Oa/MaTmyW2a3EUpyR aKjFXFScCAASVIFmZgIAAA== X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrLIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FD8QXfmxupwg4mr1SyO7XvJ4sDoMW/x dKYAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujKUNu5kKLkdULNxwnK2Bscu3i5GTQ0LARGLTlE8sELaYxIV7 69m6GLk4hASWM0nsPP2XGSQhJDCbSWLrvXwQW1hAQuJ4/0JWCNtNomfZSzYQm1dAT2Ly0QYg m4ODWSBJ4vi+apAwm4CaxO9JfWDlnAIRErO2PwErZxFQlVj9+wE7iM0sIC/RcOcKC8QYG4kT V36xQ6wNl5hy7w8zyEgRAUOJ6S9ZIc6UlXhychHLBEaBWUgWz0JYPAtsqLbEsoWvmSFsTYn9 3ctZMMU1JDq/TWRdwMi2ilGgKDUnsdJML7GgICdVLzk/dxMjOHQLo3YwNiy3OsQowMGoxMN7 YmFVuBBrYllxZe4hRgkOZiUR3lcbqsOFeFMSK6tSi/Lji0pzUosPMU5kBPpxIrOUaHI+MLLy SuINTUwMTIyNzYyNzU3MaSmsJM7LuagsXEggPbEkNTs1tSC1COYoJg5OqQbGud92a1/YeqVr 8tvd4qGXO/IDDoVvmfa/8E0Zzx7Pa458Hcd8z9g69Ry6y3gkxCp48yaXO8t8KwRXSidEP9j7 9s7chb/2yxq51ffmTrVzuHp7Ds/Z0neS5RsXXDl3XDXjhK3Lp5ZEQZuol+qGCyyX2Z7iZ903 RcHQ+Y1yx1GX82l2AvpixWH1SizFGYmGWsxFxYkAkpaXJtACAAA= Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] Updated Canon proposal for IPP job-account-password X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5576815081284106488==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5576815081284106488== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F07BF421-BB60-4076-82AA-C37F8BD1973E" --Apple-Mail=_F07BF421-BB60-4076-82AA-C37F8BD1973E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Rick, Thanks for this. We should review this proposal in detail, probably at = the August F2F. Some initial impressions: 1. One of the items in the original feedback at the last F2F was: Shouldn=E2=80=98t authenticated user determine which = job-account-id values are allowed? =E2=81=83 i.e. user =E2=80=98JohnDoe=E2=80=99 is allowed to use = three accounts: "project1", "project2", and "project3" =E2=81=83 Printer can reject jobs when the authenticated user is = not allowed to use the job-account-id specified It still isn't clear why authenticating the user at the HTTP level is = insufficient - perhaps a use case in the slide deck will better explain = this? 2. A client-supplied "salt" does not prevent replay attacks, and in fact = would require the server to have the original plain text password so = that it can generate a hash of the password+salt. *If* the intent is to = reproduce something like HTTP Digest authentication, I highly recommend = reading and using RFC 7616 (the current published HTTP Digest spec) in = the design of this extension proposal. HTTP Digest uses client and = server supplied nonces to protect against replay attacks and provide a = (small) level of assurance as to the authenticity of each party. 3. We need to document how a client would discover that the printer = requires job-account-password - both passively (Get-Printer-Attributes) = and actively (Create-Job returns something to tell the client to = authenticate outside of HTTP). > On Jun 30, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Yardumian, Rick = wrote: >=20 > Hi, > =20 > At the last face to face meeting, Canon=E2=80=99s proposal to add a = job-account-password was rejected due to its use of a clear text = password and other issues. Canon has updated their proposal in the = attached PowerPoint slides to correct the issues brought up in the face = to face meeting. Please review the attached proposal and reply with your = comments. > =20 > Thank you, > Rick Yardumian > <[Canon-OIP] PWG proposal(job account = password)-20160630.pptx>_______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Apple-Mail=_F07BF421-BB60-4076-82AA-C37F8BD1973E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Rick,

Thanks for this.  We should review this proposal in = detail, probably at the August F2F.

Some initial impressions:

1. One of the items in = the original feedback at the last F2F was:

      =  Shouldn=E2=80=98t authenticated user determine which = job-account-id values are allowed?
    =    =E2=81=83 i.e. user =E2=80=98JohnDoe=E2=80=99 is = allowed to use three accounts: "project1", "project2", and = "project3"
       =E2=81=83 Printer= can reject jobs when the authenticated user is not allowed to = use the job-account-id specified

   It still isn't clear why = authenticating the user at the HTTP level is insufficient - perhaps a = use case in the slide deck will better explain this?

2. A client-supplied = "salt" does not prevent replay attacks, and in fact would require the = server to have the original plain text password so that it can generate = a hash of the password+salt.  *If* the intent is to reproduce = something like HTTP Digest authentication, I highly recommend reading = and using RFC 7616 (the current published HTTP Digest spec) in the = design of this extension proposal.  HTTP Digest uses client and = server supplied nonces to protect against replay attacks and provide a = (small) level of assurance as to the authenticity of each = party.

3. We = need to document how a client would discover that the printer requires = job-account-password - both passively (Get-Printer-Attributes) and = actively (Create-Job returns something to tell the client to = authenticate outside of HTTP).



On Jun 30, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Yardumian, Rick = <RYardumian@ciis.canon.com> wrote:

Hi,
 
At the = last face to face meeting, Canon=E2=80=99s proposal to add a = job-account-password was rejected due to its use of a clear text = password and other issues. Canon has updated their proposal in the = attached PowerPoint slides to correct the issues brought up in the face = to face meeting. Please review the attached proposal and reply with your = comments.
 
Thank you,
Rick Yardumian
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_________________________________________________________
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DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:DF4PR84MB0284; H:DF4PR84MB0284.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: hp.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 06 Jul 2016 17:12:01.0790 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DF4PR84MB0284 Subject: [IPP] Request for new "finishings" keywords for Swedish hole punch pattern X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6311981000513989749==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6311981000513989749== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C8295922-3706-4D2B-9243-252D0FDBC0ED"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_C8295922-3706-4D2B-9243-252D0FDBC0ED Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, HP Inc. requests the addition of 4 "finishings" keywords to support the = Swedish "Trioh=C3=A5lning" de-facto hole punch standard, as described = here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_punch#Sweden = https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/H=C3=A5lslagsapparat#Svensk_trioh.C3.A5lning= = We propose the addition of 4 keywords: "punch-triohalning-top" "punch-triohalning-left" "punch-triohalning-right" "punch-triohalning-bottom" Even though the "-top" and "-bottom" are likely not necessary for = standard letter-type (i.e. A4) media sizes, it is conceivable that a = user might want this punch pattern on the short edge of an A3 or larger = media size, so that is why I'm suggesting we define these 4. 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(UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DF4PR84MB0284 Subject: [IPP] Request for new "finishings" keywords for Swedish hole punch pattern X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6946392888470166176==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6946392888470166176== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C8295922-3706-4D2B-9243-252D0FDBC0ED"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_C8295922-3706-4D2B-9243-252D0FDBC0ED Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, HP Inc. requests the addition of 4 "finishings" keywords to support the = Swedish "Trioh=C3=A5lning" de-facto hole punch standard, as described = here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_punch#Sweden = https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/H=C3=A5lslagsapparat#Svensk_trioh.C3.A5lning= = We propose the addition of 4 keywords: "punch-triohalning-top" "punch-triohalning-left" "punch-triohalning-right" "punch-triohalning-bottom" Even though the "-top" and "-bottom" are likely not necessary for = standard letter-type (i.e. A4) media sizes, it is conceivable that a = user might want this punch pattern on the short edge of an A3 or larger = media size, so that is why I'm suggesting we define these 4. 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received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: hp.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 06 Jul 2016 17:11:46.4367 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DF4PR84MB0284 Subject: [IPP] Request for new "finishings" keywords for Swedish hole punch pattern X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1357475417435482954==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1357475417435482954== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C8295922-3706-4D2B-9243-252D0FDBC0ED"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_C8295922-3706-4D2B-9243-252D0FDBC0ED Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, HP Inc. requests the addition of 4 "finishings" keywords to support the = Swedish "Trioh=C3=A5lning" de-facto hole punch standard, as described = here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_punch#Sweden = https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/H=C3=A5lslagsapparat#Svensk_trioh.C3.A5lning= = We propose the addition of 4 keywords: "punch-triohalning-top" "punch-triohalning-left" "punch-triohalning-right" "punch-triohalning-bottom" Even though the "-top" and "-bottom" are likely not necessary for = standard letter-type (i.e. A4) media sizes, it is conceivable that a = user might want this punch pattern on the short edge of an A3 or larger = media size, so that is why I'm suggesting we define these 4. 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System Service (6 July 2016) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8065545727888666967==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8065545727888666967== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113fe4e884e5980536fb30ef --001a113fe4e884e5980536fb30ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have just posted another Interim draft of IPP System Service for review during the IPP WG call next week: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160706-rev.pdf - PDF with line numbers and redlines http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160706-rev.docx - MS Word source with line numbers and redlines Summary: All pending edits from 27 June plus "system-configured-subunits" and other clarifications including consolidation of Power General, Power Meters, and Power Monitor collections into "power-state-monitor-col". Cheers, - Ira ------------------------------- Change History: 6 July 2016 - Interim draft =E2=80=93 changes per IPP WG review on 27 June 2016 - global =E2=80=93 accepted all changes before section section 7.3.4 power-state-capabilities-col - global =E2=80=93 added many comments with design choice notes - global =E2=80=93 replaced =E2=80=9C*word*=E2=80=9D with =E2=80=9Cword=E2= =80=9D in BOLD for consistency - global =E2=80=93 revised all System, Printer, and Resource status attribu= te definitions to use =E2=80=9Cidentifies=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Ccontains=E2=80= =9D instead of =E2=80=9Cspecifies=E2=80=9D (since status attributes always report values rather than allowing them to be set) - global =E2=80=93 changes all power state attributes to be (type1 keyword)= in order to disallow any vendor unique extension keywords - global =E2=80=93 corrected references to former section 7.2.7.7 power sta= te definitions to section 7.2.1 Power States and Policies - revised section 5.3 System State Attributes and Table 2 to rename =E2=80=9Cpower-monitor-col=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9Cpower-state-monitor-col=E2= =80=9D and combine with former =E2=80=9Cpower-general-col=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cpower-meters-col=E2=80=9D - revised section 5.4 System Operations and Table 3 to remove document references on =E2=80=9C=E2=80=9D operation columns and add appropriat= e footnotes - revised section 5.6 Resource Description Attributes and Table 4 to delete =E2=80=9Cresource-string-version=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cresource-version=E2= =80=9D - revised section 5.7 Resource Status Attributes and Table 5 to add =E2=80=9Cdate-time-at-installed=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9Ctime-at-installed=E2=80= =9D, =E2=80=9Cresource-string-version=E2=80=9D, and =E2=80=9Cresource-version=E2=80=9D - revised section 5.7 Resource Status Attributes and Table 5 to add =E2=80=9Cresource-owner-col=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cresource-string-version=E2= =80=9D, and =E2=80=9Cresource-version=E2=80=9D and appropriate footnotes - revised section 5.7 Resource Status Attributes and Table 5 to remove document references on =E2=80=9C=E2=80=9D operation columns and add a= ppropriate footnotes - added section 5.9 Printer Status Attributes and Table 7 for =E2=80=9Cprinter-config-changes=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cprinter-service-type= =E2=80=9D - revised section 6.2 Create-Printer, section 6.3 Create-Resource, and section 7.1 System, Printer, and Resource Operation Attributes to add =E2=80=9Crequesting-user-vcard=E2=80=9D attribute for use in setting =E2=80= =9Cprinter-owner-col=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cresource-owner-col=E2=80=9D description attributes - added section 7.2.1 Power States and Policies to define all power states (including examples of their typical effect on System activities), their relationships to DMTF CIM and ACPI, their order of power consumption based on DMTF CIM, and examples of their usage (in power policies and in operations such as Restart-System) - revised section 7.2.8.2 event-name to replace vendor name =E2=80=98AcmeCrackedCrock=E2=80=99 with =E2=80=98ExampleEventName=E2=80=99 - revised section 7.2.24 xri-supported member attributes to reference [RFC3380] and use corresponding member attribute names - revised sections 7.2.x power-calendar-policy-col, power-event-policy-col, and power-timeout-policy-col to add commented examples - revised section 7.3.2.4 power-state-message to remove =E2=80=98959=E2=80= =99, =E2=80=98960=E2=80=99, etc. from cut-and-paste from PDF source and add complete example for system shutdown - revised section 7.3.5 power-state-monitor-col to include all attributes from former =E2=80=9Cpower-general-col=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cpower-meters-c= ol=E2=80=9D collections except for =E2=80=9Cpower-peak-watts=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cprevious-month-kwh=E2= =80=9D and to rename =E2=80=9Ccan-request-power-states=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9Cvalid-request-power-= states=E2=80=9D (for clarity) - revised section 7.3.5.6 power-state-message to add complete example for system shutdown - revised section 7.3.11 system-configured-subunits to add all member attributes per PWG MFD Model and PWG Imaging System State and Counter MIB v= 2 - revised section 7.6 Resource Description Attributes to add =E2=80=9Cresource-owner-col=E2=80=9D and delete =E2=80=9Cresource-string-ve= rsion=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cresource-version=E2=80=9D - revised section 7.7 Resource Status Attributes to add =E2=80=9Cdate-time-at-installed=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Ctime-at-installed=E2=80= =9D, =E2=80=9Cresource-string-version=E2=80=9D, and =E2=80=9Cresource-version=E2=80=9D - revised section 7.7.14 resource-state-reasons to add =E2=80=98installed= =E2=80=99 (others are still TBD) - revised section 14.1 Normative References to add [ACPI], DMTF [DSP1027], and [IEEE1621] for power state definitions and semantics and various RFCs and PWG specs for other references - TODO: Design and define =E2=80=9Csystem-totals=E2=80=9D as a subset of [P= WG5108.06] - TODO: Design and define =E2=80=9Cresource-authenticator=E2=80=9D - ISSUE: Indices for "system-configured-subunits" for multiple output devices? --001a113fe4e884e5980536fb30ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I hav= e just posted another Interim draft of IPP System S= ervice for
review during the IPP WG ca= ll next week:

=C2=A0 http://ftp.pwg.org/p= ub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160706-rev.pdf
=C2=A0 - PDF with line numbers and redlines
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160706-rev.d= ocx
=C2=A0 - MS Word source with line numbers and redlines

Summary:=C2=A0 All= pending edits from 27 June plus "system-configured-subunits"
=
and other= clarifications including consolidation of Power General, Power
=
Meters, and Powe= r Monitor collections into "power-state-monitor-col".
<= /div>

Cheers,
- Ira

------------------------------- Change History:
6 July 2016

- Interim draft =E2=80= =93 changes per IPP WG review on 27 June 2016
- global =E2=80=93 accepte= d all changes before section section 7.3.4 power-state-capabilities-col
= - global =E2=80=93 added many comments with design choice notes
- global= =E2=80=93 replaced =E2=80=9C*word*=E2=80=9D with =E2=80=9Cword=E2=80=9D in= BOLD for consistency
- global =E2=80=93 revised all System, Printer, an= d Resource status attribute definitions to use =E2=80=9Cidentifies=E2=80=9D= or =E2=80=9Ccontains=E2=80=9D instead of =E2=80=9Cspecifies=E2=80=9D (sinc= e status attributes always report values rather than allowing them to be se= t)
- global =E2=80=93 changes all power state attributes to be (type1 ke= yword) in order to disallow any vendor unique extension keywords
- globa= l =E2=80=93 corrected references to former section 7.2.7.7 power state defi= nitions to section 7.2.1 Power States and Policies
- revised section 5.3= System State Attributes and Table 2 to rename =E2=80=9Cpower-monitor-col= =E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9Cpower-state-monitor-col=E2=80=9D and combine with for= mer =E2=80=9Cpower-general-col=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cpower-meters-col=E2=80= =9D
- revised section 5.4 System Operations and Table 3 to remove docume= nt references on =E2=80=9C<none>=E2=80=9D operation columns and add a= ppropriate footnotes
- revised section 5.6 Resource Description Attribut= es and Table 4 to delete =E2=80=9Cresource-string-version=E2=80=9D and =E2= =80=9Cresource-version=E2=80=9D
- revised section 5.7 Resource Status At= tributes and Table 5 to add =E2=80=9Cdate-time-at-installed=E2=80=9D =E2=80= =9Ctime-at-installed=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cresource-string-version=E2=80=9D, a= nd =E2=80=9Cresource-version=E2=80=9D
- revised section 5.7 Resource Sta= tus Attributes and Table 5 to add =E2=80=9Cresource-owner-col=E2=80=9D, =E2= =80=9Cresource-string-version=E2=80=9D, and =E2=80=9Cresource-version=E2=80= =9D and appropriate footnotes
- revised section 5.7 Resource Status Attr= ibutes and Table 5 to remove document references on =E2=80=9C<none>= =E2=80=9D operation columns and add appropriate footnotes
- added sectio= n 5.9 Printer Status Attributes and Table 7 for =E2=80=9Cprinter-config-cha= nges=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cprinter-service-type=E2=80=9D
- revised secti= on 6.2 Create-Printer, section 6.3 Create-Resource, and section 7.1 System,= Printer, and Resource Operation Attributes to add =E2=80=9Crequesting-user= -vcard=E2=80=9D attribute for use in setting =E2=80=9Cprinter-owner-col=E2= =80=9D and =E2=80=9Cresource-owner-col=E2=80=9D description attributes
-= added section 7.2.1 Power States and Policies to define all power states (= including examples of their typical effect on System activities), their rel= ationships to DMTF CIM and ACPI, their order of power consumption based on = DMTF CIM, and examples of their usage (in power policies and in operations = such as Restart-System)
- revised section 7.2.8.2 event-name to replace = vendor name =E2=80=98AcmeCrackedCrock=E2=80=99 with =E2=80=98ExampleEventNa= me=E2=80=99
- revised section 7.2.24 xri-supported member attributes to = reference [RFC3380] and use corresponding member attribute names
- revis= ed sections 7.2.x power-calendar-policy-col, power-event-policy-col, and po= wer-timeout-policy-col to add commented examples
- revised section 7.3.2= .4 power-state-message to remove =E2=80=98959=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98960=E2=80= =99, etc. from cut-and-paste from PDF source and add complete example for s= ystem shutdown
- revised section 7.3.5 power-state-monitor-col to includ= e all attributes from former =E2=80=9Cpower-general-col=E2=80=9D and =E2=80= =9Cpower-meters-col=E2=80=9D collections except for =E2=80=9Cpower-peak-wat= ts=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cprevious-month-kwh=E2=80=9D and to rename =E2=80= =9Ccan-request-power-states=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9Cvalid-request-power-states= =E2=80=9D (for clarity)
- revised section 7.3.5.6 power-state-message to= add complete example for system shutdown
- revised section 7.3.11 syste= m-configured-subunits to add all member attributes per PWG MFD Model and PW= G Imaging System State and Counter MIB v2
- revised section 7.6 Resource= Description Attributes to add =E2=80=9Cresource-owner-col=E2=80=9D and del= ete =E2=80=9Cresource-string-version=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cresource-version= =E2=80=9D
- revised section 7.7 Resource Status Attributes to add =E2=80= =9Cdate-time-at-installed=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Ctime-at-installed=E2=80=9D, = =E2=80=9Cresource-string-version=E2=80=9D, and =E2=80=9Cresource-version=E2= =80=9D
- revised section 7.7.14 resource-state-reasons to add =E2=80=98i= nstalled=E2=80=99 (others are still TBD)
- revised section 14.1 Normativ= e References to add [ACPI], DMTF [DSP1027], and [IEEE1621] for power state = definitions and semantics and various RFCs and PWG specs for other referenc= es
- TODO: Design and de= fine =E2=80=9Csystem-totals=E2=80=9D as a subset of [PWG5108.06]
- TODO= : Design and define =E2=80=9Cresource-authenticator=E2=80=9D
- ISSUE: In= dices for "system-configured-subunits" for multiple output device= s?

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Received: from relay2.apple.com (relay2.apple.com [17.128.113.67]) by mail-in4.apple.com (Apple Secure Mail Relay) with SMTP id 79.86.07433.B2DEF775; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 11:12:59 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11973e12-f79b16d000001d09-e6-577fed2b4e7b Received: from nwk-mmpp-sz12.apple.com (nwk-mmpp-sz12.apple.com [17.128.115.204]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay2.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 3E.B7.01452.B2DEF775; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 11:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.153.79.136] by nwk-mmpp-sz12.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Mar 31 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0OA0004U0D9LW810@nwk-mmpp-sz12.apple.com>; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 11:12:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Michael Sweet Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 14:12:57 -0400 Message-id: <6179EF90-6A90-440F-BDF0-796E6331D02D@apple.com> To: ipp X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrFLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FDorKv9tj7c4O8FQ4tfzz8yWRzb95LF gclj3uLpTAGMUVw2Kak5mWWpRfp2CVwZky8fYC/YwV9x+c1WtgbGmzxdjJwcEgImEuu6epkh bDGJC/fWs3UxcnEICexllNj6YS4LTNGkj6fYIRLLmSTWT5nLBOG8Z5R4PekdWJWwgITE8f6F rCA2s4CWxPqdx5lAbF4BPYnJRxuAxnIA1dhITN1rDRJmE1CT+D2pD6ycRUBV4vSKNnaIVnGJ ZbuWQNnaEk/eXWAFaeUFam3bGwASFhEQlTj2cwnU0bIST04uYgE5R0JgApvE2Zl9rBMYhWYh uWIWkitmIRm7gJF5FaNQbmJmjm5mnoleYkFBTqpecn7uJkZQ4E63E9rBeGqV1SFGAQ5GJR7e DZfqw4VYE8uKK3MPMUpzsCiJ82btrgsXEkhPLEnNTk0tSC2KLyrNSS0+xMjEwSnVwFhzXXeh /Lnf3lbipzflRzteOFgfNHGLTkKfMeM91v9zG2f1ifst2hAsn62Tfbn30K14P5MHF0Quu32p Ll0cNOfd3M13e05M0q7TPVpxOyIxsPhJRvXr1uWNSmsVr72aJlat/n2z0Op9c8+b79ieJ9n/ waI6tz7u1K5y9eyAiqo+Li8bpvtGN5RYijMSDbWYi4oTAT3DbVE9AgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrKLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FB8Rlf7bX24wekmZYtfzz8yWRzb95LF gclj3uLpTAGMUVw2Kak5mWWpRfp2CVwZky8fYC/YwV9x+c1WtgbGmzxdjJwcEgImEpM+nmKH sMUkLtxbz9bFyMUhJLCcSWL9lLlMEM57RonXk96xgFQJC0hIHO9fyApiMwtoSazfeZwJxOYV 0JOYfLQBqJsDqMZGYupea5Awm4CaxO9JfWDlLAKqEqdXtLFDtIpLLNu1BMrWlnjy7gIrSCsv UGvb3gCQsIiAqMSxn0uYIW6TlXhychHLBEb+WUgWz0KyeBaSSQsYmVcxChSl5iRWGuklFhTk pOol5+duYgQHWqHzDsZjy6wOMQpwMCrx8G64VB8uxJpYVlyZe4hRgoNZSYQ35jlQiDclsbIq tSg/vqg0J7X4EGMy0P0TmaVEk/OBUZBXEm9oYmJgYmxsZmxsbmJOmrCSOO+j33XhQgLpiSWp 2ampBalFMFuYODilGhh111umqbhv3eI8b8vJqnVz7vadv7T6sp/8uf2vHb8y8bxLZDzGnyp3 Q2n3ktc3bPclcdY9Uj8q/vx6Qbr9oWAr09OTap/I2vcW2Cw+NeNTo8azDTn3/cSD7ktINayR C1e1ysosq1vJd8F4kunkrYfuJTzunSqwsOf88W+uO+0bSr4LxKwK2CGkxFKckWioxVxUnAgA ySCIbngCAAA= Cc: 3d-printing@pwg.org Subject: [IPP] Prototyping feedback for IPP 3D Printing Extensions X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have implemented a portion of the IPP 3D Printing Extensions - the current work-in-progress is available at: https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample The "examples" directory contains sample 3MF files from the 3MF Consortium's Github samples repository, along with an ipptool test file (create-job-3d.test) that can be used to test a prototype. Let me stress that THIS PROTOTYPE IS INCOMPLETE. However, I feel I have come far enough to identify some issues with the current prototype draft at: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160430.pdf Feedback: - We generally don't specify conformance requirements for the new attributes or member attributes. Obviously we need to do this. - Based on my current prototyping, materials-col-ready should be RECOMMENDED while materials-col and materials-col-database should be REQUIRED - print-rafts and print-supports should be RECOMMENDED - "ipp-3d" should be REQUIRED in ipp-features-supported - We similarly do not list which of the existing IPP attributes are required for IPP 3D. We can use the IPP Everywhere specification as inspiration... - print-accuracy member attributes should probably use PWG units (hundredths of millimeters) instead of nanometers, with 0 being the best a printer can do (potentially better than 0.01mm). - printer-bed-temperatures is listed in Table 3 but there is no information about the attribute in the rest of the document - The section on materials-col-database needs to say something about the contents of each collection, i.e. type and temperature range, diameter, rate, etc., omit member attributes that can take any of the xxx-supported values, etc. So based on my experience so far I think we need to roll another update to this document and continue our prototyping efforts. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Jul 11 07:04:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05E612D507 for ; 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(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160627.pdf (3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike/Smith) * IETF IPP/1.1 Updates (Mike/Ira) - http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-08.txt - http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-09.txt -- changes for new IETF Proposed Standards -- Alexey Melnikov (IETF ART AD) as AD sponsor on 06/02/16 -- Barry Leiba as Document Shepherd on 06/09/16 -- Alexey Melnikov sent AD review of RFC2910bis on 06/07/16 -- IETF Last Call of RFC2910bis on 06/13/16 to 07/11/16 - complete -- IETF Last Call of RFC2911bis on 07/01/16 to 07/29/16 -- Schedule - IESG Telechat on 08/04/16 * IPP Finishings 2.1 (Smith) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160509-rev.pdf - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/Finishings-2.1-Orientation-and-Feed-Orientation-Extensions-2016-06-13.pdf -- Interim draft -- Reviewed by IPP WG on 06/13/16 -- Schedule - review at August PWG F2F * IPP Implementor's Guide v2 (Smith/Mike) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018829.html - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018830.html -- Discussed by IPP WG on 06/13/16 -- Issue is that section 5.6.8 of PWG 5100.13 does not explicitly mention 1setOf syntax for members normally single-valued -- Need examples of both, show equivalency of separate and combined duplex constraint examples -- Smith to submit issue on PWG 5100.13 to clarify 1setOf usage for constraints in section 5.6.8 -- Schedule - Errata for IPP Implementor's Guide v2 * IPP Everywhere Self-Cert / Tools / Issues (Smith/Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-ippeveselfcert10-20160219-5100.20.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018828.html -- Various issues discussed by IPP WG on 05/23/16 -- Add Print Server requirements issue from Smith on 05/26/16 -- Mike to put together a list of attributes, operations, and/or values that cannot be supported by a Print Server (Issue #11) -- Schedule - Errata for IPP Everywhere Self-Cert / Tools (4) Updated Canon proposal for job-account-password (Rick) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018847.html - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018850.html -- initial discussion -- Schedule - review at August PWG F2F (5) New "finishings" keywords for Swedish hole punch (Smith) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018853.html - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018856.html -- Mike suggested this is redundant w/ existing keywords/enums -- also, US English keywords are required by IPP rules (6) IPP 3D Printing Extensions (Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160430-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018857.html -- Prototype draft -- Reviewed by PWG F2F on 04/27/16 -- Initial prototyping feedback from Mike on 07/08/16 -- Schedule - PWG Last Call in Q3/Q4 2016 (7) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160706-rev.pdf -- Interim draft - completed all edits from 06/27/16 review -- Issue: Remove/downsize "system-totals" (dozens of attributes) -- Issue: Design for "resource-authenticator" -- Issue: Indices for "configured-subunits" for multiple output devices? -- Reviewed by IPP WG on 06/27/16 -- Stopped at section 7.3.4 power-state-capabilities -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3/Q4 2016 (8) Next steps - IPP 3D call on Monday 18 July 2016 at 4-5pm US Eastern - IPP WG call on Monday 25 July 2016 at 3-5pm US Eastern Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --001a113f972631814905375c9f14 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Meeting Number: 682 763 393
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= Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2= -concall-minutes-20160627.pdf

(3) Status of various IPP<= /span> documents (Ira/Mike/Smith)
<= /div>
-- Alexey Melnikov= (IETF ART AD) as AD sponsor on 06/02/16
-- Barry Leiba as Do= cument Shepherd on 06/09/16
-- Alexey Melnikov sent AD review= of RFC2910bis on 06/07/16
-- IETF Last Call of RFC2910bis o= n 06/13/16 to 07/11/16 - complete
-- IETF Last Call of RFC291= 1bis on 07/01/16 to 07/29/16
-- Schedule - IESG Telechat on 0= 8/04/16

* IPP Finishings 2.1 (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160509-rev.pdf=
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/Finishings-2.1-Orientation-and-Feed= -Orientation-Extensions-2016-06-13.pdf
-- Interim draft
-- Review= ed by IPP WG on 06/13/16
--= Schedule - review at August PWG F2F

* IPP I= mplementor's Guide v2 (Smith/Mike)
- http://www.pwg.org/archives= /ipp/2016/018829.html
-- Discussed by IPP WG on 06/13/16
-- Issue is that section 5.6.8 of PWG 5100.13 does not explicit= ly
=C2=A0=C2=A0 mention 1setOf syntax for members normally single-value= d
-- Need examples of both, show equivalency of separate and =
=C2=A0=C2=A0 combined duplex constraint examples
-- Smith to submit = issue on PWG 5100.13 to clarify 1setOf usage
for constraints in section = 5.6.8
-- Schedule - Errata for IPP Implementor's Guide v2

-- Various issues discussed by IPP = WG on 05/23/16
-- Add Print Server requirements issue from Sm= ith on 05/26/16
-- Mike to put together a list of attributes, operations= , and/or
=C2=A0=C2=A0 values that cannot be supported by a Print Server = (Issue #11)
-- Schedule -=C2=A0 Errata for IPP Everywhere Sel= f-Cert / Tools

(4) Updated Canon proposal for job-account= -password (Rick)
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018847.html
- http://www.pwg.or= g/archives/ipp/2016/018850.html
-- initial discussion
=
-- Schedule - review at August PWG F2F

-- also, US English keywords are required by IPP rules
(6) IPP 3D Printing Extensions (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160430-rev.pdf
- <= a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018857.html">http://www.pwg.= org/archives/ipp/2016/018857.html
-- Prototype draft
-- Reviewed by PWG F2F on 04/27/16
-- Initial prototypi= ng feedback from Mike on 07/08/16
-- Sched= ule - PWG Last Call in Q3/Q4 2016

<= div>-- Issue: Remove/downsize "system-totals" (dozens of attribut= es)
Cheers,
= - Ira


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A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: hp.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 11 Jul 2016 15:56:20.2595 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DF4PR84MB0284 Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] Request for new "finishings" keywords for Swedish hole punch pattern X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6883542144740388155==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6883542144740388155== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_263B0B98-57CF-4CAC-BB74-0A0981E0E939"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_263B0B98-57CF-4CAC-BB74-0A0981E0E939 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 2016-07-07, at 7:27 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > Smith, >=20 >> On Jul 6, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) = wrote: >>=20 >> Greetings, >>=20 >> HP Inc. requests the addition of 4 "finishings" keywords to support = the Swedish "Trioh=C3=A5lning" de-facto hole punch standard, as = described here: >>=20 >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_punch#Sweden = >> = https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/H=C3=A5lslagsapparat#Svensk_trioh.C3.A5lning= = >>=20 >> We propose the addition of 4 keywords: >>=20 >> "punch-triohalning-top" >> "punch-triohalning-left" >> "punch-triohalning-right" >> "punch-triohalning-bottom" >>=20 >> Even though the "-top" and "-bottom" are likely not necessary for = standard letter-type (i.e. A4) media sizes, it is conceivable that a = user might want this punch pattern on the short edge of an A3 or larger = media size, so that is why I'm suggesting we define these 4. >=20 > I have a few comments about this: >=20 > 1. "finishings" is an enum attribute, "finishing-template" is a = keyword (or name) attribute. I assume you want both registered? That is correct - apologies for not being precise. (And if we don't = have anything in place currently to make sure that the set of enum = values and keywords match, we probably ought to, since they are strongly = related.) >=20 > 2. Keywords are supposed to be US English; looks like "trio binder" is = the English equivalent of trioh=C3=A5lning. >=20 > 3. We already have punch-quad-{bottom,left,right,top}, and there are = numerous 4-hole punch patterns (four specifically listed on the linked = page). In the past we have opted for the enum/keyword to specify an = implementation-defined hole pattern, with "finishings-col" providing the = explicit control, so I am not super happy about going down this road (I = count 15 different hole patterns for 2-7 hole punching on the wikipedia = page alone). Let me preface by saying I would have preferred to only pursue a = solution that uses finishings-col, but unfortunately there seem to be = quite a few laggards in this space that still depend on "finishings". = When "finishings-col" is employed, you can give the = "finishings-template" value any value you want, because it becomes = simply an identifier to be used to look up a string out of the strings = catalog. >=20 > 4. =46rom a practical standpoint, will finishers needing this support = arbitrary 4-hole punch patterns, or will this be specific to a finisher = that is sold/marketed solely in Sweden and nearby countries? If the = latter, it seems like keeping the current (generic) punch-quad-xxx is = sufficient for "finishings", with "finishings-col" providing explicit = intent. I understand and sympathize with your worry about needless enum / = keyword definitions. 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SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hbOzSr-niMOF for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD33112D0C7 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 7F6F6290D; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 21:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106D93432; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 21:01:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 48) id AE3C43432; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 21:01:55 +0000 (UTC) To: ipp@pwg.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1000:db-issue.php From: smith.kennedy@hp.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 21:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [IPP] [PWG5100.13] Issue #40: Section 5.6.8: Clarification needed about use of 1setOf to list multiple possible values for an attribute X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: webmaster@pwg.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3523959836508677372==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3523959836508677372== Content-Type: text/plain [Issue Unconfirmed] Concerning IPP job constraints and resolution, "job-constraints-supported" is a set of collections, where each collection contains the following member attributes - "resolver-name": specifies an identifier of a collection in "job-resolvers-supported" - 2+ Job Template attributes and corresponding values The semantic is as follows: if the Job Template attributes in a collection is matched by the current settings, there is a conflict; resolve the conflict using the resolver with specified resolver name. There may be cases where multiple values for a Job Template attribute may be considered a match. For instance, for handling a constraint between two sided printing and the transparency media type, a Printer might list the following: job-constraints-supported= { resolver-name=“A” sides="two-sided-short-edge" media-col={ media-type="transparency" } }, { resolver-name=“A” sides="two-sided-long-edge" media-col= { media-type="transparency" } } job-resolvers-supported= { resolver-name=“A” sides="one-sided" media-col= { media-type="stationery" } } To reduce the number of collections in job-constraints-supported, the Job Template attributes can be specified of a "1setOf ", so that multiple values may be listed, like so: job-constraints-supported= { resolver-name=“A” sides="two-sided-long-edge","two-sided-short-edge" media-col={ media-type="transparency" } } job-resolvers-supported= { resolver-name=“A” sides="one-sided" media-col={ media-type="stationery" } } However, reading section 5.6.8, doing this isn't clearly legal. Update the text in section 5.6.8 to make it unambiguously clear that this second form is allowable. Link: http://www.pwg.org/issues/40 --===============3523959836508677372== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============3523959836508677372==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Jul 11 14:02:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14B112D578 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:02:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JAwgXnYP5K0U for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF73712D594 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 6AE58B9D4; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 21:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E30BACE1; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 21:02:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 48) id 939214777; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 21:02:18 +0000 (UTC) To: ipp@pwg.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1000:db-issue.php From: smith.kennedy@hp.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20160711210218.939214777@www.pwg.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 21:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [IPP] [PWG5100.13] Issue #40: Section 5.6.8: Clarification needed about use of 1setOf to list multiple possible values for an attribute X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: webmaster@pwg.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8173037590998206832==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8173037590998206832== Content-Type: text/plain [Issue Unconfirmed] Concerning IPP job constraints and resolution, "job-constraints-supported" is a set of collections, where each collection contains the following member attributes - "resolver-name": specifies an identifier of a collection in "job-resolvers-supported" - 2+ Job Template attributes and corresponding values The semantic is as follows: if the Job Template attributes in a collection is matched by the current settings, there is a conflict; resolve the conflict using the resolver with specified resolver name. There may be cases where multiple values for a Job Template attribute may be considered a match. For instance, for handling a constraint between two sided printing and the transparency media type, a Printer might list the following: job-constraints-supported= { resolver-name=“A” sides="two-sided-short-edge" media-col={ media-type="transparency" } }, { resolver-name=“A” sides="two-sided-long-edge" media-col= { media-type="transparency" } } job-resolvers-supported= { resolver-name=“A” sides="one-sided" media-col= { media-type="stationery" } } To reduce the number of collections in job-constraints-supported, the Job Template attributes can be specified of a "1setOf ", so that multiple values may be listed, like so: job-constraints-supported= { resolver-name=“A” sides="two-sided-long-edge","two-sided-short-edge" media-col={ media-type="transparency" } } job-resolvers-supported= { resolver-name=“A” sides="one-sided" media-col={ media-type="stationery" } } However, reading section 5.6.8, doing this isn't clearly legal. Update the text in section 5.6.8 to make it unambiguously clear that this second form is allowable. Priority changed to 'Moderate'. Link: http://www.pwg.org/issues/40 --===============8173037590998206832== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============8173037590998206832==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Jul 11 14:07:59 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE1312D12B for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.077 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.077 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted the minutes from today's IPP workgroup conference call to: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160711.pdf Our next conference call will be on July 18, 2016 at 4pm ET to discuss the IPP 3D Printing Extensions. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Jul 11 14:11:34 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E741D12D12B for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:11:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.077 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.077 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, This is just a friendly reminder that we will hold a conference call for the IPP 3D Printing Extensions next Monday, July 18th, at 4pm ET. A full agenda and updated prototype draft will be posted later this week, but the primary purpose will be to review any prototyping feedback and (hopefully) agree on the minimum requirements and recommendations for the spec. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Jul 12 12:13:25 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A897912D5E9 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:13:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K29l4lTGlqmP for ; 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MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: hp.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 12 Jul 2016 19:12:53.9004 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DF4PR84MB0283 Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] Request for new "finishings" keywords for Swedish hole punch pattern X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4719953638674447976==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4719953638674447976== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_69DCD47F-96C7-45B6-986A-9A54D1ABD069"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_69DCD47F-96C7-45B6-986A-9A54D1ABD069 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, I'm going to echo back the plan we discussed today in the IPP WG. =46rom = what I took to understand, the plan was like so: - No new enum value 'punch-triohalning-top' etc. to be defined for = "finishings" - Define a keyword / name "variant extension convention" for = "finishing-template" names to allow variants to be created for defined = keywords Thus, to support Swedish Trio Binder (Trioh=C3=A5lning) punch pattern, = the Printer would list an entry in "finishings-col-database" and = possibly "finishings-col-ready" where "finishing-template" would be set = to something like 'punch-quad-left_trio-binder', with an appropriate = localized string corresponding to that, and with all the = "finishings-col" member attributes describing the appropriate punch = locations. Below is an example of how the Trio Binder and European 4 = ring patterns would be represented in discrete "finishings-col-ready" = listings: finishings-col-ready=3D { finishing-template=3Dpunch-quad-left_trio-binder media-size-name=3Diso_a4_210x297mm media-size=3D{x-dimension=3D21000 y-dimension=3D29700} punching=3D { punching-reference-edge=3Dleft, punching-offset=3D1200 punching-locations=3D9250,11350,14850,16950 } }, { finishing-template=3Dpunch-quad-left_a4-european-4-ring media-size-name=3Diso_a4_210x297mm media-size=3D{x-dimension=3D21000 y-dimension=3D29700} punching=3D { punching-reference-edge=3Dleft, punching-offset=3D1200 punching-locations=3D2850,10850,18850,26850 } }, The naming convention proposed is to separate the "keyword" or "base = name" from the "subtype name" with an underscore. Reading even the = latest revision of 2911 = (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-09), it isn't clear = to me that there is precedent for this convention. If such conventions = are used in other contexts, please share so that I can leverage that / = those conventions in my updates to Finishings 2.1. Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ > On 2016-07-11, at 9:56 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) = wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On 2016-07-07, at 7:27 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: >>=20 >> Smith, >>=20 >>> On Jul 6, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Greetings, >>>=20 >>> HP Inc. requests the addition of 4 "finishings" keywords to support = the Swedish "Trioh=C3=A5lning" de-facto hole punch standard, as = described here: >>>=20 >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_punch#Sweden = >>> = https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/H=C3=A5lslagsapparat#Svensk_trioh.C3.A5lning= = >>>=20 >>> We propose the addition of 4 keywords: >>>=20 >>> "punch-triohalning-top" >>> "punch-triohalning-left" >>> "punch-triohalning-right" >>> "punch-triohalning-bottom" >>>=20 >>> Even though the "-top" and "-bottom" are likely not necessary for = standard letter-type (i.e. A4) media sizes, it is conceivable that a = user might want this punch pattern on the short edge of an A3 or larger = media size, so that is why I'm suggesting we define these 4. >>=20 >> I have a few comments about this: >>=20 >> 1. "finishings" is an enum attribute, "finishing-template" is a = keyword (or name) attribute. I assume you want both registered? >=20 > That is correct - apologies for not being precise. (And if we don't = have anything in place currently to make sure that the set of enum = values and keywords match, we probably ought to, since they are strongly = related.) >=20 >>=20 >> 2. Keywords are supposed to be US English; looks like "trio binder" = is the English equivalent of trioh=C3=A5lning. >>=20 >> 3. We already have punch-quad-{bottom,left,right,top}, and there are = numerous 4-hole punch patterns (four specifically listed on the linked = page). In the past we have opted for the enum/keyword to specify an = implementation-defined hole pattern, with "finishings-col" providing the = explicit control, so I am not super happy about going down this road (I = count 15 different hole patterns for 2-7 hole punching on the wikipedia = page alone). >=20 > Let me preface by saying I would have preferred to only pursue a = solution that uses finishings-col, but unfortunately there seem to be = quite a few laggards in this space that still depend on "finishings". = When "finishings-col" is employed, you can give the = "finishings-template" value any value you want, because it becomes = simply an identifier to be used to look up a string out of the strings = catalog. >=20 >>=20 >> 4. =46rom a practical standpoint, will finishers needing this support = arbitrary 4-hole punch patterns, or will this be specific to a finisher = that is sold/marketed solely in Sweden and nearby countries? If the = latter, it seems like keeping the current (generic) punch-quad-xxx is = sufficient for "finishings", with "finishings-col" providing explicit = intent. >=20 > I understand and sympathize with your worry about needless enum / = keyword definitions. 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with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:38:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <08A0C377-54DD-4A05-831A-8FD4E11E2E8B@hp.com> <9516FB6B-D219-42B5-8266-273065EFF1A2@apple.com> <0B852876-C24D-4A9A-93C7-4C4BFADE0582@hp.com> From: Ira McDonald Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:38:24 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" , Ira McDonald Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] Request for new "finishings" keywords for Swedish hole punch pattern X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6305097072174930172==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6305097072174930172== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114ff16ee1703c0537771792 --001a114ff16ee1703c0537771792 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Smith, A precedent for use of "_" (underscore) to separate base and extension names is section 3.4 Derived Media Type Names of MSN2 (PWG5101.1-2013) [1], which begins with the following: "Media Type Names MAY be locally extended from existing standard, vendor, or custom media names by prefixing the names with the string "derived-" and appending the existing name with a leading underscore, e.g., "derived-xyz-photo_photographic-glossy". The format is defined by the following ABNF [STD68]: derived-type-name =3D "derived-" base-name "_" ( base-name / vendor-type-name / custom-type-name ) Cheers, - Ira [1] ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-pwgmsn20-20130328-5101.1.pdf Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm going to echo back the plan we discussed today in the IPP WG. From > what I took to understand, the plan was like so: > > - No new enum value 'punch-triohalning-top' etc. to be defined for > "finishings" > - Define a keyword / name "variant extension convention" for > "finishing-template" names to allow variants to be created for defined > keywords > > Thus, to support Swedish Trio Binder (Trioh=C3=A5lning) punch pattern, th= e > Printer would list an entry in "finishings-col-database" and possibly > "finishings-col-ready" where "finishing-template" would be set to somethi= ng > like 'punch-quad-left_trio-binder', with an appropriate localized string > corresponding to that, and with all the "finishings-col" member attribute= s > describing the appropriate punch locations. Below is an example of how th= e > Trio Binder and European 4 ring patterns would be represented in discrete > "finishings-col-ready" listings: > > finishings-col-ready=3D > { > finishing-template=3Dpunch-quad-left_trio-binder > media-size-name=3Diso_a4_210x297mm > media-size=3D{x-dimension=3D21000 y-dimension=3D29700} > punching=3D > { > punching-reference-edge=3Dleft, > punching-offset=3D1200 > punching-locations=3D9250,11350,14850,16950 > } > }, > { > finishing-template=3Dpunch-quad-left_a4-european-4-ring > media-size-name=3Diso_a4_210x297mm > media-size=3D{x-dimension=3D21000 y-dimension=3D29700} > punching=3D > { > punching-reference-edge=3Dleft, > punching-offset=3D1200 > punching-locations=3D2850,10850,18850,26850 > } > }, > > > The naming convention proposed is to separate the "keyword" or "base name= " > from the "subtype name" with an underscore. Reading even the latest > revision of 2911 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-09), > it isn't clear to me that there is precedent for this convention. If suc= h > conventions are used in other contexts, please share so that I can levera= ge > that / those conventions in my updates to Finishings 2.1. > > Cheers, > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Foru= m > / USB IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > > > On 2016-07-11, at 9:56 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < > smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > > > > > >> On 2016-07-07, at 7:27 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > >> > >> Smith, > >> > >>> On Jul 6, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < > smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Greetings, > >>> > >>> HP Inc. requests the addition of 4 "finishings" keywords to support > the Swedish "Trioh=C3=A5lning" de-facto hole punch standard, as described= here: > >>> > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_punch#Sweden < > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_punch#Sweden> > >>> https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/H=C3=A5lslagsapparat#Svensk_trioh.C3.A5= lning > < > https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A5lslagsapparat#Svensk_trioh.C3.A5lnin= g > > > >>> > >>> We propose the addition of 4 keywords: > >>> > >>> "punch-triohalning-top" > >>> "punch-triohalning-left" > >>> "punch-triohalning-right" > >>> "punch-triohalning-bottom" > >>> > >>> Even though the "-top" and "-bottom" are likely not necessary for > standard letter-type (i.e. A4) media sizes, it is conceivable that a user > might want this punch pattern on the short edge of an A3 or larger media > size, so that is why I'm suggesting we define these 4. > >> > >> I have a few comments about this: > >> > >> 1. "finishings" is an enum attribute, "finishing-template" is a keywor= d > (or name) attribute. I assume you want both registered? > > > > That is correct - apologies for not being precise. (And if we don't > have anything in place currently to make sure that the set of enum values > and keywords match, we probably ought to, since they are strongly related= .) > > > >> > >> 2. Keywords are supposed to be US English; looks like "trio binder" is > the English equivalent of trioh=C3=A5lning. > >> > >> 3. We already have punch-quad-{bottom,left,right,top}, and there are > numerous 4-hole punch patterns (four specifically listed on the linked > page). In the past we have opted for the enum/keyword to specify an > implementation-defined hole pattern, with "finishings-col" providing the > explicit control, so I am not super happy about going down this road (I > count 15 different hole patterns for 2-7 hole punching on the wikipedia > page alone). > > > > Let me preface by saying I would have preferred to only pursue a > solution that uses finishings-col, but unfortunately there seem to be qui= te > a few laggards in this space that still depend on "finishings". When > "finishings-col" is employed, you can give the "finishings-template" valu= e > any value you want, because it becomes simply an identifier to be used to > look up a string out of the strings catalog. > > > >> > >> 4. From a practical standpoint, will finishers needing this support > arbitrary 4-hole punch patterns, or will this be specific to a finisher > that is sold/marketed solely in Sweden and nearby countries? If the latte= r, > it seems like keeping the current (generic) punch-quad-xxx is sufficient > for "finishings", with "finishings-col" providing explicit intent. > > > > I understand and sympathize with your worry about needless enum / > keyword definitions. But it struck me that the current keywords > definitions ("punch-quad-left") are really ambiguous as far as intent. Is > that not a concern? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipp mailing list > > ipp@pwg.org > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > --001a114ff16ee1703c0537771792 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Smith,

A precedent for use = of "_" (underscore) to separate base and
extension names= is section 3.4 Derived Media Type Names of
MSN2 (PWG5101.1-2013) = [1], which begins with the following:

"Media Type Names MAY be = locally extended from existing standard,
vendor, or custom media names = by prefixing the names with the string
"derived-" and appendi= ng the existing name with a leading underscore,
e.g., "derived-xyz= -photo_photographic-glossy".=C2=A0 The format is defined
by the fo= llowing ABNF [STD68]:

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 derived-type-name =3D "derived-" base-name &= quot;_"
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ( bas= e-name / vendor-type-name /
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 custom-type-name )

Cheers,
- Ira
[1] ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-pwgmsn2= 0-20130328-5101.1.pdf


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Ch= air - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Pr= inting WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE= -ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &am= p; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.= com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 7= 34-944-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 9= 06-494-2434

<= div>

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Kennedy, Sm= ith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
Greetings,

I'm going to echo back the plan we discussed today in the IPP WG.=C2=A0= From what I took to understand, the plan was like so:

- No new enum value 'punch-triohalning-top' etc. to be defined for = "finishings"
- Define a keyword / name "variant extension convention" for &quo= t;finishing-template" names to allow variants to be created for define= d keywords

Thus, to support Swedish Trio Binder (Trioh=C3=A5lning) punch pattern, the = Printer would list an entry in "finishings-col-database" and poss= ibly "finishings-col-ready" where "finishing-template" = would be set to something like 'punch-quad-left_trio-binder', with = an appropriate localized string corresponding to that, and with all the &qu= ot;finishings-col" member attributes describing the appropriate punch = locations. Below is an example of how the Trio Binder and European 4 ring p= atterns would be represented in discrete "finishings-col-ready" l= istings:

finishings-col-ready=3D
{
=C2=A0 finishing-template=3Dpunch-quad-left_trio-binder
=C2=A0 media-size-name=3Diso_a4_210x297mm
=C2=A0 media-size=3D{x-dimension=3D21000 y-dimension=3D29700}
=C2=A0 punching=3D
=C2=A0 {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 punching-reference-edge=3Dleft,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 punching-offset=3D1200
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 punching-locations=3D9250,11350,14850,16950
=C2=A0 }
},
{
=C2=A0 finishing-template=3Dpunch-quad-left_a4-european-4-ring
=C2=A0 media-size-name=3Diso_a4_210x297mm
=C2=A0 media-size=3D{x-dimension=3D21000 y-dimension=3D29700}
=C2=A0 punching=3D
=C2=A0 {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 punching-reference-edge=3Dleft,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 punching-offset=3D1200
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 punching-locations=3D2850,10850,18850,26850
=C2=A0 }
},


The naming convention proposed is to separate the "keyword" or &q= uot;base name" from the "subtype name" with an underscore.= =C2=A0 Reading even the latest revision of 2911 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-09), it isn't = clear to me that there is precedent for this convention.=C2=A0 If such conv= entions are used in other contexts, please share so that I can leverage tha= t / those conventions in my updates to Finishings 2.1.

Cheers,

Smith

/**
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / = NFC Forum / USB IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 HP Inc.
*/



> On 2016-07-11, at 9:56 AM, Ke= nnedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On 2016-07-07, at 7:27 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
>>
>> Smith,
>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect= ) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> = wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> HP Inc. requests the addition of 4 "finishings" keyw= ords to support the Swedish "Trioh=C3=A5lning" de-facto hole punc= h standard, as described here:
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_punch= #Sweden <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_pu= nch#Sweden>
>>> https://sv.wi= kipedia.org/wiki/H=C3=A5lslagsapparat#Svensk_trioh.C3.A5lning <https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/H= %C3%A5lslagsapparat#Svensk_trioh.C3.A5lning>
>>>
>>> We propose the addition of 4 keywords:
>>>
>>> "punch-triohalning-top"
>>> "punch-triohalning-left"
>>> "punch-triohalning-right"
>>> "punch-triohalning-bottom"
>>>
>>> Even though the "-top" and "-bottom" are l= ikely not necessary for standard letter-type (i.e. A4) media sizes, it is c= onceivable that a user might want this punch pattern on the short edge of a= n A3 or larger media size, so that is why I'm suggesting we define thes= e 4.
>>
>> I have a few comments about this:
>>
>> 1. "finishings" is an enum attribute, "finishing-te= mplate" is a keyword (or name) attribute.=C2=A0 I assume you want both= registered?
>
> That is correct - apologies for not being precise.=C2=A0 (And if we do= n't have anything in place currently to make sure that the set of enum = values and keywords match, we probably ought to, since they are strongly re= lated.)
>
>>
>> 2. Keywords are supposed to be US English; looks like "trio b= inder" is the English equivalent of trioh=C3=A5lning.
>>
>> 3. We already have punch-quad-{bottom,left,right,top}, and there a= re numerous 4-hole punch patterns (four specifically listed on the linked p= age). In the past we have opted for the enum/keyword to specify an implemen= tation-defined hole pattern, with "finishings-col" providing the = explicit control, so I am not super happy about going down this road (I cou= nt 15 different hole patterns for 2-7 hole punching on the wikipedia page a= lone).
>
> Let me preface by saying I would have preferred to only pursue a solut= ion that uses finishings-col, but unfortunately there seem to be quite a fe= w laggards in this space that still depend on "finishings".=C2=A0= When "finishings-col" is employed, you can give the "finish= ings-template" value any value you want, because it becomes simply an = identifier to be used to look up a string out of the strings catalog.
>
>>
>> 4. From a practical standpoint, will finishers needing this suppor= t arbitrary 4-hole punch patterns, or will this be specific to a finisher t= hat is sold/marketed solely in Sweden and nearby countries? If the latter, = it seems like keeping the current (generic) punch-quad-xxx is sufficient fo= r "finishings", with "finishings-col" providing explici= t intent.
>
> I understand and sympathize with your worry about needless enum / keyw= ord definitions.=C2=A0 But it struck me that the current keywords=C2=A0 def= initions ("punch-quad-left") are really ambiguous as far as inten= t. Is that not a concern?
>
>
> ________________________= _______________________
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> ipp@pwg.org
> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp


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boundary="===============5628784943752626234==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5628784943752626234== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114ff16e2395ee05378ec637 --001a114ff16e2395ee05378ec637 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Large list of substantive issues/criticisms of RFC2910bis - I find it particularly absurd that these comments say "this new protocol" (in complete ignorance of Barry's writeup and the ubiquity of IPP/1.1). Mike - we should mull these over and consider minimalist responses. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mahesh Jethanandani Date: Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:31 PM Subject: OPS-DIR review of draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-07 To: draft-sweet-rfc2910bis.all@ietf.org Cc: ops-dir@ietf.org, Benoit Claise I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational directorate=E2=80=99s ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being pro= cessed by the IESG. These comments were written with the intent of improving the operational aspects of the IETF drafts. Comments that are not addressed in last call may be included in AD reviews during the IESG review. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other last call comments. Document reviewed: draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-07 Summary: - The abstract of the document says =E2=80=9CThis document is one of a s= et of documents, which together describe all aspects of a new Internet Printin= g Protocol (IPP). IPP is an application level protocol that can be used f= or distributed printing using Internet tools and technologies. This docume= nt defines the rules for encoding IPP operations and IPP attributes into th= e Internet MIME media type called "application/ipp". This document also defines the rules for transporting a message body whose Content-Type is "application/ipp" over HTTP. - This document is on a standards track. - It approved it will obsolete RFC 2910 and RFC 3382. Disclaimer: This document is a series of documents per the abstract. If operational and management considerations are covered in other documents, it needs to be called out and in that case most of the comments should be directed to that document. Operational Considerations - Operations. The document does talk about the minimum transport protocol needed for IPP. When describing the operation layer, it could t= alk about default values or range of values that any of the fields can take =E2=80=9Cout-of-the-box=E2=80=9D. If the fields can take any value, it n= eeds to state that. Operations like these need to monitored and for root cause analysis. Identifying information that is consistent such as what gets put in any field is helpful. - It is not apparent from the document if this new protocol places any requirements on other protocols and components in the network. These cou= ld be restrictions or creating dependencies on existing protocols. If it do= es, the requirements need to be called out. - The same is true for impact on operations of existing networks. If the impact is minimal, the document can just mention that. The impact should consider impact on servers performing auto-configuration for this protoc= ol. Or impact on server or network if large print jobs are enqueued as a res= ult of a spam. - How would an operator know that the protocol is operating correctly? Are there tests that network operators can run (other than enqueuing a print job) to test that the protocol is working properly. Are there particular metrics that an operator should watch out for? Management Considerations: - From a management consideration point of view, the document needs to identify how the protocol is installed, configured and monitored once it= is installed. That should include not only what needs to be managed but how= . An identification of the managed identities that are involved, what the architecture of these entities are (client, server etc.), what some of t= he management operations are (static vs dynamic configuration) and whether these operations are performed locally or remotely. - Scale should be considered from a management perspective, specially for different scales. The document needs to consider the difference betw= een a local management interface to manage a single device and how it would = be different from a large network, remote management managed using a distributed management system. Auto configuration and default parameters might make more sense in the latter case. - Techniques for debugging protocol interactions in a network must be part of the document. This should include interoperability between devic= es from different vendors, and across models and releases from the same ven= dor. - Interoperability cannot be limited to protocol interaction. It has to extend to single syntax to do all the management on all the devices. Thi= s has to include both configuration and monitoring. - The document needs to describe some basic fault and health monitoring indications that needs to be instrumented. These should include alarms o= r events, e.g. out of paper if that is appropriate. - When propagating fault information, has the protocol considered mechanisms to throttle notifications to prevent congestion and duplicati= on of events? If there is a hierarchy of faults, is each fault reported at every level or only at the lowest level? Accounting Considerations - Is it appropriate to collect usage information related to this protocol? If so, what usage information would be appropriate to collect? A run of idnits reveals a few errors, warnings and comments: Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist : ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= - -- The draft header indicates that this document obsoletes RFC3382, but the abstract doesn't seem to mention this, which it should. -- The draft header indicates that this document obsoletes RFC2910, but the abstract doesn't seem to mention this, which it should. Miscellaneous warnings: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= - -- The document date (June 13, 2016) is 30 days in the past. Is this intentional? Checking references for intended status: Proposed Standard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= - (See RFCs 3967 and 4897 for information about using normative references to lower-maturity documents in RFCs) -- Looks like a reference, but probably isn't: '1' on line 1610 '[1] http://www.pwg.org/...' =3D=3D Missing Reference: 'RFC2910bis' is mentioned on line 1284, but not defined '(see [RFC2910bis]) or other transport protocol. Messages of type...' -- Possible downref: Non-RFC (?) normative reference: ref. 'ASCII' ** Downref: Normative reference to an Informational RFC: RFC 2818 Summary: 1 error (**), 0 flaws (~~), 1 warning (=3D=3D), 5 comments (-= -). Thanks Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --001a114ff16e2395ee05378ec637 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Large list = of substantive issues/criticisms of RFC2910bis - I find it
particu= larly absurd that these comments say "this new protocol"
(in complete ignorance of Barry's writeup and the ubiquity of IPP/1.1)= .

Mike - we should mull these over and consider minimalist res= ponses.

Cheers,
- Ira

=
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Arc= hitect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Fo= undation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working GroupCo-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated = Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
<= a style=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highn= orthinc" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto: bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2= =A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais,= MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

<= /div>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
F= rom: Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:31 PM
Subject: OPS-DIR revi= ew of draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-07
To: draft-sweet-rfc2910bis.all@ietf.org
Cc: ops-dir@ietf.org, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>


<= span>I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational directorate= =E2=80=99s=C2=A0ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed= by the IESG.=C2=A0 These=C2=A0comments were written with the intent of imp= roving the operational=C2=A0aspects of the IETF drafts. Comments that are n= ot addressed in last call may be included in AD reviews during the IESG rev= iew.=C2=A0 Document editors and=C2=A0WG chairs should treat these comments = just like any other last call=C2=A0comments.

Document reviewed: =C2=A0draft-sw= eet-rfc2910bis-07

Summary:=C2=A0
  • The abstract of the document sa= ys =E2=80=9CThis document is one of a set of documents, which togethe= r describe all aspects of a new Internet Printing Protocol (IPP).=C2=A0 IPP= is an application level protocol that can be used for distributed printing= using Internet tools and technologies.=C2=A0 This document defines the rul= es for encoding IPP operations and IPP attributes into the Internet MIME me= dia type called "application/ipp".=C2=A0 This document also defin= es the rules for transporting a message body whose Content-Type is "ap= plication/ipp" over HTTP.
  • This document is on a standards= track.
  • It approved it will obsolete RF= C 2910 and RFC 3382.
Disclaimer: This document is a series of documents per the abstra= ct. If operational and management considerations are covered in other docum= ents, it needs to be called out and in that case most of the comments shoul= d be directed to that document.

Operational Considerations
  • Operations. The document does t= alk about the minimum transport protocol needed for IPP. When describing th= e operation layer, it could talk about default values or range of values th= at any of the fields can take =E2=80=9Cout-of-the-box=E2=80=9D. If the fiel= ds can take any value, it needs to state that. Operations like these need t= o monitored and for root cause analysis. Identifying information that is co= nsistent such as what gets put in any field is helpful.=C2=A0
  • It is not apparent from the doc= ument if this new protocol places any requirements on other protocols and c= omponents in the network. These could be restrictions or creating dependenc= ies on existing protocols. If it does, the requirements need to be called o= ut.
  • The same is true for impact on = operations of existing networks. If the impact is minimal, the document can= just mention that. The impact should consider impact on servers performing= auto-configuration for this protocol. Or impact on server or network if la= rge print jobs are enqueued as a result of a spam.
  • How would an operator know that= the protocol is operating correctly? Are there tests that network operator= s can run (other than enqueuing a print job) to test that the protocol is w= orking properly. Are there particular metrics that an operator should watch= out for?

Management Considerations:
  • From a management consideration= point of view, the document needs to identify how the protocol is installe= d, configured and monitored once it is installed. That should include not o= nly what needs to be managed but how. An identification of the managed iden= tities that are involved, what the architecture of these entities are (clie= nt, server etc.), what some of the management operations are (static vs dyn= amic configuration) and whether these operations are performed locally or r= emotely.
  • Scale should be considered from= a management perspective, specially for different scales. The document nee= ds to consider the difference between a local management interface to manag= e a single device and how it would be different from a large network, remot= e management managed using a distributed management system. Auto configurat= ion and default parameters might make more sense in the latter case.
  • Techniques for debugging protoc= ol interactions in a network must be part of the document. This should incl= ude interoperability between devices from different vendors, and across mod= els and releases from the same vendor.
  • Interoperability cannot be limi= ted to protocol interaction. It has to extend to single syntax to do all th= e management on all the devices. This has to include both configuration and= monitoring.
  • The document needs to describe = some basic fault and health monitoring indications that needs to be instrum= ented. These should include alarms or events, e.g. out of paper if that is = appropriate.=C2=A0
  • When propagating fault informat= ion, has the protocol considered mechanisms to throttle notifications to pr= event congestion and duplication of events? If there is a hierarchy of faul= ts, is each fault reported at every level or only at the lowest level?

Accounting Considerations
  • Is it appropriate to collect us= age information related to this protocol? If so, what usage information wou= ld be appropriate to collect?

A run of idnits reveals a few= errors, warnings and comments:

=C2=A0 Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org= /id-info/checklist :
=C2=A0 -----------------------------------= -----------------------------------------
=C2=A0 -- The draft header indicates that this document obsoletes RFC33= 82, but the
=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 abstract doesn't seem to mentio= n this, which it should.

=C2=A0 -- The= draft header indicates that this document obsoletes RFC2910, but the
=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 abstract doesn't seem to mention this, which it = should.


= =C2=A0 Miscellaneous warnings:
=C2=A0 -----------------------------= -----------------------------------------------

=C2=A0 -- The document date (June 13, 2016) is 30 days in the pas= t.=C2=A0 Is this
=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 intentional?


=C2=A0 Checking references= for intended status: Proposed Standard
=C2=A0 --------------------= --------------------------------------------------------
=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (See RFCs 3967 and 4897 for informat= ion about using normative references
=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 to lower-m= aturity documents in RFCs)

=C2=A0 -- L= ooks like a reference, but probably isn't: '1' on line 1610
<= span>=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 '[1] http://www.pwg.org/...'
=C2=A0 =3D=3D Missing Reference: 'RFC2910bis' is mentioned on li= ne 1284, but not
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=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Summary: 1 error (**), 0 flaws (~~), 1 warni= ng (=3D=3D), 5 comments (--).


Thanks

Mahesh Jethanandani



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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted an updated prototype draft of the IPP 3D Printing Extensions to: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160714.docx http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160714.pdf http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160714-rev.pdf This draft adds the missing content and proposes conformance requirements that I identified in my previous prototyping status update. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Jul 14 13:08:27 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F9912D996 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:08:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.077 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.077 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Our next IPP 3D call will be Monday 18 July 2016 1-2pm US Pacific / 4-5pm US Eastern Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) NOTE: Please DO NOT USE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx - instead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above! ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting Number: 682 763 393 Meeting Password: Printing123 ------------------------------------------------------- To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/e.php?MTID=m123b376f8d9bdc7d9ff0ff43ed7d1610 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". ------------------------------------------------------- For assistance ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". ------------------------------------------------------- Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review - Mike as minute taker? (2) IPP 3D Printing Extensions (Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160714-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018857.html -- Prototype draft -- Reviewed by PWG F2F on 04/27/16 -- Initial prototyping feedback from Mike on 07/08/16 -- Schedule - PWG Last Call in Q3/Q4 2016 (3) Next steps - IPP WG call on Monday 25 July 2016 at 3-5pm US Eastern _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Jul 18 14:06:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8447712D536 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:06:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.077 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.077 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Our next IPP 3D conference call will be on Monday, August 8th at 4pm ET (skipping the 1st which is a holiday in Canada). _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Jul 20 14:28:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3BF12D5A3 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:28:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.073 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.073 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Af9P-2tSQyZj for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAC312D87C for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 76BD9B924; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 21:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96835B692; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 21:28:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 7A779B693; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 21:28:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it0-x22a.google.com (mail-it0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22a]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DE7BACDF for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 21:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id f6so220104ith.0 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:28:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=en8iBTfY71ZaaX8Z3ot/VzduF11lzitc9VVQVXzRDxM=; b=TVvGJ9WEtyJGVDutuG9QXgaUjEKUiSjfLALISD1E3KNISoLuZkdwn1+5VUzscZwN+P e0qzgxKTFFHokYo9LnWhIH9noabYSqsZu9gsMvn7C9WNBIwQarvJPVSjx0/EBdaQ0T68 gLyC3PzzeRkzimpGUzLh739jkFVHXD4s9EiIPILOpmASmNdoR+BdjtCOIhTYD5ywXtaF p6bIzhkSd6tXhi3Cb45G2/zvL/FKoaNeXWQdmhkYhJX8J9TtuUDQSzTzscTY5V7EeC4N 5l1JwjjcHNvkbaCJ/sSYJjEwmLr4H6eGzJaqlJrLVjQJz2xaUgCUqftaPwPptP0KnrDg Wn2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=en8iBTfY71ZaaX8Z3ot/VzduF11lzitc9VVQVXzRDxM=; b=GWFErOM2gY73sgKcOcXoQn3nGF6IgdCO4X5uxsXfKcKqU4ziWORiFmnF730pmqtsK0 By5WvNRBud/H2dlGn/g0urnZKG1FlGze6p87prseKq+JoSO3FidQHRtyAhLq6OvgXfJq +CLhim5SAFtzZs5EKFgAH0HQSeQL61DhMeB6RLrk+2Obspin1FAg07PpacxxW2XOekwX J1XNnOSneVz5lysIkTwSBW07N03J6cr4wzUHrR6ZJLQhDoS9/ibgyEetzt2ntRhOOVnd hohfcwOz1EJVIOLqVDz9bp2738OKD8lxGFMuquZcgG46VbbWeyul1rMj5gtEdz+f90yV vSvw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLSHt2hdA5nZCRwaM8RaDFpIEL/tN8DzgDpyMCHLq4QkZYCH0K4rARJgUcLThLcoYITwU2vl+4Wgl6IGQ== X-Received: by 10.36.159.66 with SMTP id c63mr40244428ite.97.1469050085727; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:28:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.132.161 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:27:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Ira McDonald Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:27:46 -0400 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] Posted IPP System Service (20 July 2016) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3950296891956058895==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3950296891956058895== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c08e364846322053817e0a1 --94eb2c08e364846322053817e0a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have just posted another Interim draft of IPP System Service for review during the IPP WG call next week: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160720-rev.pdf - PDF with line numbers and redlines http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160720-rev.docx - MS Word source with line numbers and redlines Summary: All pending edits from 11 July plus new tables, clarifications, and usage notes. Cheers, - Ira ------------------------------- Change History: 20 July 2016 - Interim draft =E2=80=93 changes per IPP WG review on 11 July 2016 - global =E2=80=93 accepted all changes before section 7.3.10 system-configured-resources - revised Abstract and Introduction to tighten up wording - revised section 5.6 Resource Description Attributes and Table 4 to add note for REQUIRED =E2=80=9Cresource-owner-col=E2=80=9D - revised section 5.7 Resource Status Attributes and Table 5 to delete =E2=80=9Cresource-owner-col=E2=80=9D (belongs in settable description attri= butes for change of owner) and associated note - revised section 5.7 Resource Status Attributes and Table 5 to add note for =E2=80=9Cdate-time-at-installed=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Ctime-at-installed= =E2=80=9D including analogy to =E2=80=9Cdate-time-at-processing=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Ctime-at- processing= =E2=80=9D Job attributes - added section 5.10 Job Description Attributes and Table 8 for =E2=80=9Cjob-owner-col=E2=80=9D extension - revised section 7.1.4 =E2=80=9Crequesting-user-vcard=E2=80=9D to extend t= o System, Printer, Resource, and Job objects and discuss =E2=80=9Cmost authenticated= =E2=80=9D user identity with pointer to =E2=80=9Cjob-originating-user-name=E2=80=9D in [RF= C2911]. - revised section 7.3.1 =E2=80=9Cpower-log-col=E2=80=9D to discuss minimizi= ng log entries, MUST log final states, and MAY omit intermediate states (e.g., from =E2=80=98resetNMI=E2=80=99) - revised section 7.3.9 =E2=80=9Csystem-configured-printers=E2=80=9D to add= Table 9 of member attributes - revised section 7.3.10 =E2=80=9Csystem-configured-resources=E2=80=9D to a= dd Table 10 of member attributes - revised section 7.3.11 =E2=80=9Csystem-configured-subunits=E2=80=9D to ad= d Table 11 of member attributes - deleted section 7.3.9.8 =E2=80=9Cqueued-job-count=E2=80=9D from =E2=80=9Csystem-configured-printers=E2=80=9D (too much detail without much = utility) - revised section 7.7.3 =E2=80=9Cdate-time-at-installation=E2=80=9D and sec= tion 7.7.21 =E2=80=9Ctime-at-installation=E2=80=9D to note analogy to analogy to =E2=80=9Cdate-time-at-processing=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Ctime-at- processing= =E2=80=9D Job attributes - revised section 7.7.11 =E2=80=9Cresource-state=E2=80=9D to add comment su= ggesting new first class state of =E2=80=98installed=E2=80=99 (follows =E2=80=98active= =E2=80=99) to show up in =E2=80=9Csystem-configured-resources=E2=80=9D summary --94eb2c08e364846322053817e0a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I hav= e just posted another Interim draft of IPP System S= ervice for
review during the IPP WG ca= ll next week:

=C2=A0 http://ftp.pwg.org/p= ub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160720-rev.pdf
=C2=A0 - PDF with line numbers and redlines
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160720-rev.d= ocx
=C2=A0 - MS Word source with line numbers and redlines

Summary:=C2=A0 All= pending edits from 11 July plus new tables, clarifications, and usage note= s.

Cheers,
- Ira

------------------------------- Change History:
20 July 2016

- Interim draft =E2=80=93 changes pe= r IPP WG review on 11 July 2016
- global =E2=80=93 accepted all changes = before section 7.3.10 system-configured-resources
- revised Abstract and= Introduction to tighten up wording
- revised section 5.6 Resource Descr= iption Attributes and Table 4 to add note for REQUIRED =E2=80=9Cresource-ow= ner-col=E2=80=9D
- revised section 5.7 Resource Status Attributes and Ta= ble 5 to delete =E2=80=9Cresource-owner-col=E2=80=9D (belongs in settable d= escription attributes for change of owner) and associated note
- revised= section 5.7 Resource Status Attributes and Table 5 to add note for =E2=80= =9Cdate-time-at-installed=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Ctime-at-installed=E2=80=9D = including analogy to =E2=80=9Cdate-time-at-processing=E2=80=9D and =E2=80= =9Ctime-at- processing=E2=80=9D Job attributes
- added section 5.10 Job = Description Attributes and Table 8 for =E2=80=9Cjob-owner-col=E2=80=9D exte= nsion
- revised section 7.1.4 =E2=80=9Crequesting-user-vcard=E2=80=9D to= extend to System, Printer, Resource, and Job objects and discuss =E2=80=9C= most authenticated=E2=80=9D user identity with pointer to =E2=80=9Cjob-orig= inating-user-name=E2=80=9D in [RFC2911].
- revised section 7.3.1 =E2=80= =9Cpower-log-col=E2=80=9D to discuss minimizing log entries, MUST log final= states, and MAY omit intermediate states (e.g., from =E2=80=98resetNMI=E2= =80=99)
- revised section 7.3.9 =E2=80=9Csystem-configured-printers=E2= =80=9D to add Table 9 of member attributes
- revised section 7.3.10 =E2= =80=9Csystem-configured-resources=E2=80=9D to add Table 10 of member attrib= utes
- revised section 7.3.11 =E2=80=9Csystem-configured-subunits=E2=80= =9D to add Table 11 of member attributes
- deleted section 7.3.9.8 =E2= =80=9Cqueued-job-count=E2=80=9D from =E2=80=9Csystem-configured-printers=E2= =80=9D (too much detail without much utility)
- revised section 7.7.3 = =E2=80=9Cdate-time-at-installation=E2=80=9D and section 7.7.21 =E2=80=9Ctim= e-at-installation=E2=80=9D to note analogy to analogy to =E2=80=9Cdate-time= -at-processing=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Ctime-at- processing=E2=80=9D Job attri= butes
- revised section 7.7.11 =E2=80=9Cresource-state=E2=80=9D to add c= omment suggesting new first class state of =E2=80=98installed=E2=80=99 (fol= lows =E2=80=98active=E2=80=99) to show up in =E2=80=9Csystem-configured-res= ources=E2=80=9D summary

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DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:DF4PR84MB0281; H:DF4PR84MB0284.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: hp.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 21 Jul 2016 05:01:03.3121 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DF4PR84MB0281 Subject: [IPP] Updated stable Finishings 2.1 draft available for review X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3186545436526159100==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3186545436526159100== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [IPP] [PWG5100.11] Issue #43: Add attributes from "IPP Job Password Repertoire" whitepaper to this standard X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: webmaster@pwg.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" [Issue Unconfirmed] The "IPP Job Password Repertoire" whitepaper (http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wp-job-password-repertoire-20160101.pdf) defined some additional attributes and modified the set of keywords. 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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --001a1135b19493c9fc0538645251 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1135b19493c9f8053864524f --001a1135b19493c9f8053864524f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) Date: Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 4:00 PM Subject: Value of "printer-resolution" | "printer-resolution-supported" vs. the "pwg-raster-resolution-supported"? To: Michael Sweet , Ira McDonald Hi there, What again is the value of "printer-resolution" and "printer-resolution-supported" vs. the document format specific attributes that seem to specify the same information ("pwg-raster-resolution-supported", etc.)? I know that "printer-resolution" | "printer-resolution-supported" were defined in RFC 2911 but I'm trying to explain their value to some folks here and I'm at a loss. Thanks for any help! Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ --001a1135b19493c9f8053864524f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

---------- Forwarded messag= e ----------
From: Kennedy, Smith (Wireles= s Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 4:00 = PM
Subject: Value of "printer-resolution" | "printer-reso= lution-supported" vs. the "pwg-raster-resolution-supported"?=
To: Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.= com>, Ira McDonald <bl= ueroofmusic@gmail.com>


Hi there,

What again is the value of "printer-resolution" and "printer= -resolution-supported" vs. the document format specific attributes tha= t seem to specify the same information ("pwg-raster-resolution-support= ed", etc.)?=C2=A0 I know that "printer-resolution" | "p= rinter-resolution-supported" were defined in RFC 2911 but I'm tryi= ng to explain their value to some folks here and I'm at a loss.

Thanks for any help!

Smith

/**
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / = NFC Forum / USB IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 HP Inc.
*/




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of "printer-resolution" | "printer-resolution-supported" vs. the "pwg-raster-resolution-supported"? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6179879228409156853==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6179879228409156853== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114fcaa8aef938053864558d --001a114fcaa8aef938053864558d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michael Sweet Date: Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Value of "printer-resolution" | "printer-resolution-supported" vs. the "pwg-raster-resolution-supported"? To: Smith Kennedy Cc: Ira McDonald Smith, > On Jul 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > > Hi there, > > What again is the value of "printer-resolution" and "printer-resolution-supported" vs. the document format specific attributes that seem to specify the same information ("pwg-raster-resolution-supported", etc.)? I know that "printer-resolution" | "printer-resolution-supported" were defined in RFC 2911 but I'm trying to explain their value to some folks here and I'm at a loss. printer-resolution specifies the output resolution. For example, a printer that supports 4800x1200dpi can allow that resolution to be selected for higher quality output. pwg-raster-resolution-supported specifies supported document resolutions, which are typically some integer divisor of the printer-resolution-supported values. For example, that same printer might advertise 300dpi and 600dpi PWG Raster resolutions, which are upscaled to 4800x1200dpi (or whatever printer resolution is in use). Having a lower document resolution allows for faster transfer (and less processing on the printer overall) while still supporting high resolution output. And typically you are getting RGB or grayscale data that needs to be converted to the device color space, dithered, etc. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --001a114fcaa8aef938053864558d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

---------- Forwarded messag= e ----------
From: Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com&g= t;
Date: Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Value of &q= uot;printer-resolution" | "printer-resolution-supported" vs.= the "pwg-raster-resolution-supported"?
To: Smith Kennedy <= smith.kennedy@hp.com>
Cc:= Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@= gmail.com>


Smith,

> On Jul 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <<= a href=3D"mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com">smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:<= br> >
> Hi there,
>
> What again is the value of "printer-resolution" and "pr= inter-resolution-supported" vs. the document format specific attribute= s that seem to specify the same information ("pwg-raster-resolution-su= pported", etc.)?=C2=A0 I know that "printer-resolution" | &q= uot;printer-resolution-supported" were defined in RFC 2911 but I'm= trying to explain their value to some folks here and I'm at a loss.
printer-resolution specifies the output resolution.=C2=A0 For exampl= e, a printer that supports 4800x1200dpi can allow that resolution to be sel= ected for higher quality output.

pwg-raster-resolution-supported specifies supported document resolutions, w= hich are typically some integer divisor of the printer-resolution-supported= values.=C2=A0 For example, that same printer might advertise 300dpi and 60= 0dpi PWG Raster resolutions, which are upscaled to 4800x1200dpi (or whateve= r printer resolution is in use).

Having a lower document resolution allows for faster transfer (and less pro= cessing on the printer overall) while still supporting high resolution outp= ut.=C2=A0 And typically you are getting RGB or grayscale data that needs to= be converted to the device color space, dithered, etc.

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Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer


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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --001a1140480c55268c0538645a08 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140480c5526860538645a06 --001a1140480c5526860538645a06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) Date: Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Value of "printer-resolution" | "printer-resolution-supported" vs. the "pwg-raster-resolution-supported"? To: Michael Sweet Cc: Ira McDonald Ah, so it is the difference between the input document format content resolution and the resolution the Printer or language interpreter should use for the output. I can see how that might be useful for vector formats because that might factor into the output speed or marking agent usage. But for raster document formats, if you send a lower resolution, upscaling cannot "create" information, so you would still end up with the source resolution, right? (I'll discuss this with our language interpreter / color science people...) Smith > On 2016-07-13, at 3:02 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > > Smith, > >> On Jul 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> >> What again is the value of "printer-resolution" and "printer-resolution-supported" vs. the document format specific attributes that seem to specify the same information ("pwg-raster-resolution-supported", etc.)? I know that "printer-resolution" | "printer-resolution-supported" were defined in RFC 2911 but I'm trying to explain their value to some folks here and I'm at a loss. > > printer-resolution specifies the output resolution. For example, a printer that supports 4800x1200dpi can allow that resolution to be selected for higher quality output. > > pwg-raster-resolution-supported specifies supported document resolutions, which are typically some integer divisor of the printer-resolution-supported values. For example, that same printer might advertise 300dpi and 600dpi PWG Raster resolutions, which are upscaled to 4800x1200dpi (or whatever printer resolution is in use). > > Having a lower document resolution allows for faster transfer (and less processing on the printer overall) while still supporting high resolution output. And typically you are getting RGB or grayscale data that needs to be converted to the device color space, dithered, etc. > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > --001a1140480c5526860538645a06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

---------- Forwarded message ----------
F= rom: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) = <smith.kennedy= @hp.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:13 PM
Subject: Re= : Value of "printer-resolution" | "printer-resolution-suppor= ted" vs. the "pwg-raster-resolution-supported"?
To: Micha= el Sweet <msweet@apple.com>Cc: Ira McDonald <blueroofm= usic@gmail.com>


Ah, so it is the difference between the i= nput document format content resolution and the resolution the Printer or l= anguage interpreter should use for the output. I can see how that might be = useful for vector formats because that might factor into the output speed o= r marking agent usage.

But for raster document formats, if you send a lower resolution, upscaling = cannot "create" information, so you would still end up with the s= ource resolution, right?=C2=A0 (I'll discuss this with our language int= erpreter / color science people...)

Smith



> On 2016-07-13, at 3:02 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
>
> Smith,
>
>> On Jul 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) &= lt;smith.kennedy@hp.com> wro= te:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> What again is the value of "printer-resolution" and &quo= t;printer-resolution-supported" vs. the document format specific attri= butes that seem to specify the same information ("pwg-raster-resolutio= n-supported", etc.)?=C2=A0 I know that "printer-resolution" = | "printer-resolution-supported" were defined in RFC 2911 but I&#= 39;m trying to explain their value to some folks here and I'm at a loss= .
>
> printer-resolution specifies the output resolution.=C2=A0 For example,= a printer that supports 4800x1200dpi can allow that resolution to be selec= ted for higher quality output.
>
> pwg-raster-resolution-supported specifies supported document resolutio= ns, which are typically some integer divisor of the printer-resolution-supp= orted values.=C2=A0 For example, that same printer might advertise 300dpi a= nd 600dpi PWG Raster resolutions, which are upscaled to 4800x1200dpi (or wh= atever printer resolution is in use).
>
> Having a lower document resolution allows for faster transfer (and les= s processing on the printer overall) while still supporting high resolution= output.=C2=A0 And typically you are getting RGB or grayscale data that nee= ds to be converted to the device color space, dithered, etc.
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
>


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Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 12:42:53 -0400 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" Subject: [IPP] Fwd: Value of "printer-resolution" | "printer-resolution-supported" vs. the "pwg-raster-resolution-supported"? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5503830180544871065==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5503830180544871065== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113e557818f8a70538645d05 --001a113e557818f8a70538645d05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michael Sweet Date: Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:47 PM Subject: Re: Value of "printer-resolution" | "printer-resolution-supported" vs. the "pwg-raster-resolution-supported"? To: Smith Kennedy Cc: Ira McDonald Smith, > On Jul 13, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > > Ah, so it is the difference between the input document format content resolution and the resolution the Printer or language interpreter should use for the output. I can see how that might be useful for vector formats because that might factor into the output speed or marking agent usage. > > But for raster document formats, if you send a lower resolution, upscaling cannot "create" information, so you would still end up with the source resolution, right? (I'll discuss this with our language interpreter / color science people...) You can't make the equivalent of vector quality, no, but "resolution enhancement technology" has been a staple of laser printers for years to improve the effective resolution when printing. Also, most printers do not produce 255 different sizes of dots so you "lose" some resolution in the printer due to dithering/halftoning. As far as edge detail you can see a greater improvement between 300 and 600 DPI than (say) 600 and 1200 DPI thanks to the limits of visual acuity - at that point the dots are so small you are better off using the higher resolution to improve shading/dithering than getting a smoother looking line/character. Thus, the document resolution can be 600DPI while the output resolution is a much higher resolution. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --001a113e557818f8a70538645d05 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: Value of "= printer-resolution" | "printer-resolution-supported" vs. the= "pwg-raster-resolution-supported"?
To: Smith Kennedy <smith.kennedy@hp.com>
Cc: Ira= McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmai= l.com>


Smith,

> On Jul 13, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <<= a href=3D"mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com">smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:<= br> >
> Ah, so it is the difference between the input document format content = resolution and the resolution the Printer or language interpreter should us= e for the output. I can see how that might be useful for vector formats bec= ause that might factor into the output speed or marking agent usage.
>
> But for raster document formats, if you send a lower resolution, upsca= ling cannot "create" information, so you would still end up with = the source resolution, right?=C2=A0 (I'll discuss this with our languag= e interpreter / color science people...)

You can't make the equivalent of vector quality, no, but "r= esolution enhancement technology" has been a staple of laser printers = for years to improve the effective resolution when printing.=C2=A0 Also, mo= st printers do not produce 255 different sizes of dots so you "lose&qu= ot; some resolution in the printer due to dithering/halftoning.

As far as edge detail you can see a greater improvement between 300 and 600= DPI than (say) 600 and 1200 DPI thanks to the limits of visual acuity - at= that point the dots are so small you are better off using the higher resol= ution to improve shading/dithering than getting a smoother looking line/cha= racter.=C2=A0 Thus, the document resolution can be 600DPI while the output = resolution is a much higher resolution.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer


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------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Topic: IPP WG Date: Every Monday, from Monday, September 23, 2013 to no end date Time: 3:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00) Meeting Number: 682 763 393 Meeting Password: Printing123 ------------------------------------------------------- To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/e.php?MTID=m123b376f8d9bdc7d9ff0ff43ed7d1610 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". ------------------------------------------------------- For assistance ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". ------------------------------------------------------- Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review - Mike as minute taker? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160627.pdf (3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike/Smith) * IETF IPP/1.1 Updates (Mike/Ira) - http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-08.txt - http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-09.txt -- changes for new IETF Proposed Standards -- Alexey Melnikov (IETF ART AD) as AD sponsor on 06/02/16 -- Barry Leiba as Document Shepherd on 06/09/16 -- Alexey Melnikov sent AD review of RFC2910bis on 06/07/16 -- Alexey Melnikov sent AD review of RFC2911bis on 07/17/16 -- OPS-DIR review of RFC2910bis on 07/13/16 -- IETF Last Call of RFC2910bis on 06/13/16 to 07/11/16 - complete -- IETF Last Call of RFC2911bis on 07/01/16 to 07/29/16 - ends Friday -- Schedule - IESG Telechat on 08/04/16 * IPP 3D Printing Extensions (Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160714-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018857.html -- Prototype draft -- Initial prototyping feedback from Mike on 07/08/16 -- Reviewed by IPP WG on 07/18/16 - stopped at section 8.2 -- Schedule - PWG Last Call in Q3/Q4 2016 * IPP Implementor's Guide v2 (Smith/Mike) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018829.html - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018830.html -- Discussed by IPP WG on 06/13/16 -- Schedule - Errata for IPP Implementor's Guide v2 * IPP Everywhere Self-Cert / Tools / Issues (Smith/Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-ippeveselfcert10-20160219-5100.20.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018828.html -- Discussed by IPP WG on 05/23/16 -- Schedule - Errata for IPP Everywhere Self-Cert / Tools (4) "printer-resolution-supported" vs "pwg-raster-resolution-supported" (Smith) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018874.html -- resolved - see Smith and Mike's exchange -- Schedule - review at August PWG F2F (5) PWG 5100.8 Issue #42: -actual should be in Job Status group (Mike) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018867.html -- note that "xxx-actual" are Job Receipt (read-only) -- Schedule - Errata for IPP "-actual" Attributes (6) PWG 5100.11 Issue #43: add Job Password Repertoire attributes - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018873.html -- additional Job/Printer attributes -- Schedule - Errata for IPP JPS2 (7) Review of IPP Finishings 2.1 (Smith) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160720-rev.pdf - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/Finishings-2.1-Orientation-and-Feed-Orientation-Extensions-2016-06-13.pdf -- Interim draft -- Reviewed by IPP WG on 06/13/16 -- Schedule - review at August PWG F2F (8) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20160720-rev.pdf -- Interim draft - completed all edits from 07/11/16 review -- Issue: Remove/downsize "system-totals" (dozens of attributes) -- Issue: Design for "resource-authenticator" -- Issue: Indices for "configured-subunits" for multiple output devices? -- Reviewed by IPP WG on 07/11/16 -- Stopped at section 7.3.10 system-configured-resources -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3/Q4 2016 (9) Next steps - No IPP call on Monday 1 August 2016 - Canadian holiday - IPP 3D call on Monday 8 August 2016 at 4-5pm US Eastern - IPP WG call on Monday 15 August 2016 at 3-5pm US Eastern - IPP WG at PWG F2F on Tue/Wed 23-24 August Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --001a1140480c05df47053864a65d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Our next = IPP WG c= all will be Monday 11 July 2016 12-2pm US Pacific= / 3-5pm US Eastern

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Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

Attendee Access Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

NOTE:=C2=A0 Please DO NOT U= SE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx
- instead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above!

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Meeting information
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Topic: IPP=C2=A0 WG
Date: Every Monday, from Monday, September 23, 2013 to no end date
Time: 3:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)
Meeting Number: 682 763 393
Meeting Password: Printing123
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To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)
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1. Go to https:/= /ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/e.php?MTID=3Dm123b376f8d9bdc7d9ff0ff43ed7d16= 10
2. If requested, enter your name and email address.
3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123
4. Click "Join".

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For assistance
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1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/mc
2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support".
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= Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2= -concall-minutes-20160627.pdf

(3) Status of various IPP<= /span> documents (Ira/Mike/Smith)
<= /div>
-- Alexey Melniko= v (IETF ART AD) as AD sponsor on 06/02/16
-- Barry Leiba as D= ocument Shepherd on 06/09/16
-- Alexey Melnikov sent AD revie= w of RFC2910bis on 06/07/16
-- Alexey Melnikov sent AD review of RFC2911= bis on 07/17/16
-- OPS-DIR review of RFC2910bis on 07/13/16
-- IETF Last Call of RFC2910bis on 06/13/16 to 07/11/16 - com= plete
-- IETF Last Call of RFC2911bis on 07/01/16 to 07/29/16= - ends Friday
-- Schedule - IESG Telechat on 08/04/16

* IPP 3D Printing Extensions (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20160714-rev.pdf=
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018857.html
=
-- Prototype draft
-- Initial proto= typing feedback from Mike on 07/08/16
-- Reviewed by IPP WG <= span> on 07/18/16 - stopped at section 8.2=
-- Schedule - PWG Last Call in Q3/Q4 2016=

* IPP Implementor's Guide v2 (Smith/Mike)
- h= ttp://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018829.html
-- Discusse= d by IPP WG on 06/13/16
-- Schedule - Errata for IPP Implemen= tor's Guide v2

* IPP Everywhere Self-Cert / Tools /= Issues (Smith/Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.= org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-ippeveselfcert10-20160219-5100.20.pdf
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018828.html
-- Dis= cussed by IPP WG on 05/23/16
-- Schedule -=C2=A0 Errata for I= PP Everywhere Self-Cert / Tools

(4) "printer-resolut= ion-supported" vs "pwg-raster-resolution-supported" (Smith)<= br>
-- resolved - see Smith and Mike's exchange
=
-- Schedule - review at August PWG F2F

(5) PWG 5100.= 8 Issue #42: -actual should be in Job Status group (Mike)
- http://www.pwg.org/archive= s/ipp/2016/018867.html
-- note that "xxx-actual"= ; are Job Receipt (read-only)
-- Schedule - Errata for IPP "-actual= " Attributes

(6) PWG 5100.11 Issue #43: add Job Pass= word Repertoire attributes
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2016/018873.html
<= /div>
-- additional Job/Printer attributes
-- Schedule - = Errata for IPP JPS2

(7) Review of IPP Finishi= ngs 2.1 (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ip= p/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160720-rev.pdf
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/sl= ides/Finishings-2.1-Orientation-and-Feed-Orientation-Extensions-2016-06-13.= pdf
-- Interim draft
-- Reviewed by IPP WG on 06/13/16
-- Schedule - review at August PWG F2F
=
(8) Review of IPP System Service= (Ira/Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-= ippsystem10-20160720-rev.pdf
-- Interim draft - completed all edits = from 07/11/16 review
-- Issue: Remove/downsize "system-t= otals" (dozens of attributes)
-- Issue: Design for "= ;resource-authenticator"
-- Issue: Indices for "con= figured-subunits" for multiple output devices?
-- Review= ed by IPP WG on 07/11/16
<= div>
-- Stopped at section 7.3.10 system-configured-resources
= -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3/Q4 2016

(9) Next steps
=
- No IPP call on Monday 1 August 2016 - Canadian holiday
- = IPP 3D call on Monday 8 August 2016 at 4= -5pm US Eastern
- IPP WG call on Monday 15 August 2016 at 3-5pm US East= ern
- IPP WG at PWG F2F on Tue/Wed 23-24 August

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-= Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open = Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IE= EE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &= amp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail= .com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 = 734-944-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 = 906-494-2434

=
--001a1140480c05df47053864a65d-- --===============9085533828014138443== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============9085533828014138443==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Jul 25 14:04:11 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A4D12D08E for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:04:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pTxryydlHK4F for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A33112DA29 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 4373D2683; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 21:04:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48C22605; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 21:04:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 48) id A5566260B; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 21:04:03 +0000 (UTC) To: ipp@pwg.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1000:db-issue.php From: smith.kennedy@hp.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 21:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [IPP] [PWG5100.19] Issue #44: Add description of difference between "printer-resolution" vs. a document format specific resolution X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: webmaster@pwg.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" [Issue Unconfirmed] Provide a description of the difference between "printer-resolution" | "printer-resolution-supported" vs. the document-format specific attributes for describing the supported resolutions, for instance "pwg-raster-resolution-supported". The difference is that "printer-resolution-supported" specifies the Printer's supported output resolution, and "pwg-raster-resolution-supported" is the resolutions supported for the input document format content. Link: http://www.pwg.org/issues/44 _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Jul 25 14:10:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3799012DA35 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:10:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.077 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.077 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=apple.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RephOjYC0SWd for ; 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Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:10:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 17:10:03 -0400 To: ipp Message-id: <6ACD0D1F-B487-4319-84B5-BFF99A0581AF@apple.com> MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprNLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FAYpavbMC3c4OQjbotj+16yODB6zFs8 nSmAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoErY+aLZUwFu5grFn+YztbA+J6pi5GTQ0LARKJx2gxGCFtM4sK9 9WxdjFwcQgJ7GSXWb73BDFP0YeosJojEciaJhmc/mSGc2UwSR248YgGpEhaQkDjev5AVxGYT UJP4PakPzGYW0JJYv/M4E4StLfHk3QWwOIuAqsSPT0fZIXqNJR5sawE7Q0RAVOLYzyVgm3kF bCTO/ZnKCmHrSUw+2sAGcZGsxJOTi1hAjpAQ+Moq8aNjLfsERsFZSPbNQrJvFpL+BYzMqxiF chMzc3Qz80z1EgsKclL1kvNzNzGCQnO6nfAOxtOrrA4xCnAwKvHwTnCdFi7EmlhWXJl7iFGa g0VJnLdeHygkkJ5YkpqdmlqQWhRfVJqTWnyIkYmDU6qBcWuzNt/WTu3WQ4e1Q40fMdVGX9hX LnZvirzh6qe94T0p5umL045P/OPlvzVa69x+6/1Ts74e6C/+177gdrakZ/ydZzf/LOm+mFG9 NeXJj77eLa3nAj7dW7fJpuFB0HRXjeAen8mvPvfu/d3Knnx4jyfHOw+9rB8uuTt+VaUtzppe 8q/e0i3kkhJLcUaioRZzUXEiABq5P6cuAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrGLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FB8Q1e3YVq4wYd/HBbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxswXy5gKdjFXLP4wna2B8T1TFyMnh4SAicSHqbOgbDGJC/fW s3UxcnEICSxnkmh49pMZwpnNJHHkxiMWkCphAQmJ4/0LWUFsNgE1id+T+sBsZgEtifU7jzNB 2NoST95dAIuzCKhK/Ph0lB2i11jiwbYWRhBbREBU4tjPJcwgNq+AjcS5P1NZIWw9iclHG9gg LpKVeHJyEcsERr5ZSFbMQrJiFpKWBYzMqxgFilJzEivN9BILCnJS9ZLzczcxgkOpMGoHY8Ny q0OMAhyMSjy8E1ynhQuxJpYVV+YeYpTgYFYS4ZWpAArxpiRWVqUW5ccXleakFh9iTAZ6YCKz lGhyPjDM80riDU1MDEyMjc2Mjc1NzEkTVhLnTcoDWiGQnliSmp2aWpBaBLOFiYNTqoHRaOf/ UOt7VwuSorbP1Odrvfi9V/+ZSDff7u6p9fcD1xulfZ/xiFm0JXqSBuNHQ40DB9mSU25NnLXH arOzzEpGp4v5U2/dZm0Wuvxird3Zw6t4jvqcXzJjtpPhnd/z3oTuq/P52SSXfny18K1G8Ww+ 5XhBi3fXH/4z6jbR8jn84YbMGfXT2lEXlViKMxINtZiLihMBQg7mYWkCAAA= Subject: [IPP] Minutes posted from today's IPP WG concall X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted the minutes from today's IPP workgroup conference call to: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20160725.pdf Our next conference call is on August 8, 2016 at 4pm to discuss the IPP 3D Printing Extensions. (We are skipping August 1st because it is a holiday in Canada) _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Jul 28 14:19:58 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF7412DBC4 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:19:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) 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received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: hp.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 28 Jul 2016 21:19:46.9638 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DF4PR84MB0284 Subject: [IPP] Finishings 2.1 Prototype draft available for review X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3684440529846855336==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3684440529846855336== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7F6610EF-48FC-4AD4-A47F-48CF8B6E25C8"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_7F6610EF-48FC-4AD4-A47F-48CF8B6E25C8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, I have just posted an updated IPP Finishings 2.1 to the PWG FTP site. = The new revision is labeled as a Prototype draft, and is available here: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160728.pdf http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160728.docx http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160728-rev.pdf = http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160728-rev.docx Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ --Apple-Mail=_7F6610EF-48FC-4AD4-A47F-48CF8B6E25C8 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" 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List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0483675084954661567==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0483675084954661567== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114fcaa862dccc0538db87f4 --001a114fcaa862dccc0538db87f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Paul Lambert Date: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:27 PM Subject: [Cfrg] Wi-Fi Alliance Device Provisioning Protocol (DPP) - Draft Released for Public Review and Comments To: "Eggert, Lars" , "cfrg@irtf.org" , " lear@cisco.com" , "t2trg@irtf.org" The Wi-Fi Alliance (WFA) has posted a draft version of a new =E2=80=98setup protocol=E2=80=99: https://www.wi-fi.org/downloads-registered-guest/Wi-Fi_DPP_Tech_Spec_v0_0_2= 3.pdf The WFA is looking for review and comments on this specification. Paul *From:* Cfrg [mailto:cfrg-bounces@irtf.org] *On Behalf Of *Eggert, Lars *Sent:* Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:52 AM *To:* cfrg@irtf.org *Subject:* [Cfrg] Fwd: [T2TRG] dpp Potentially of interest to the group - email on t2trg@ Begin forwarded message: *From: *Paul Lambert *Subject: Re: [T2TRG] dpp* *Date: *July 21, 2016 at 17:45:00 GMT+2 *To: *Eliot Lear , "t2trg@irtf.org" *Cc: *Gabino Solano The Wifi Alliance is working on a protocol that is intended to improve initial access for devices. While the spec is not public, the blurb about the spec is. It says: Device Provisioning Protocol With the increase in Wi-Fi CERTIFIED devices available, end users have the ability to add a more diverse set of devices to their Wi-Fi networks, including a growing range of devices that do not have a rich user interface. Wi-Fi Alliance Device Provisioning Protocol will enhance the user experience with a simple, secure, and consistent method for on- and off-boarding any type of device on a Wi-Fi network. See http://www.wi-fi.org/who-we-are/current-work-areas. I=E2=80=99m working to expedite an open cryptographic review of the current= draft of the DPP specification. The Wi-Fi Alliance staff is still working on the process to solicit comments, but there should be something that can be shared within a few weeks. If you are interesting in reviewing this draft please send a note to Gabino Solano (cc=E2=80=99ed). Paul Eliot _______________________________________________ T2TRG mailing list T2TRG@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/t2trg _______________________________________________ Cfrg mailing list Cfrg@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg --001a114fcaa862dccc0538db87f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

---------- Forwarded message ----------
F= rom: Paul Lambert <<= a href=3D"mailto:paul@marvell.com">paul@marvell.com>
Date:= Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:27 PM
Subject: [Cfrg] Wi-Fi Alliance Device Prov= isioning Protocol (DPP) - Draft Released for Public Review and Comments
= To: "Eggert, Lars" <lars@ne= tapp.com>, "cfrg@irtf.org&= quot; <cfrg@irtf.org>, "lear@cisco.com" <lear@cisco.com>, "t2trg@irtf.org" <t2tr= g@irtf.org>


The Wi-Fi Alliance (WFA) has posted a d= raft version of a new =E2=80=98setup protocol=E2=80=99:

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 https://www.wi-fi.org/downloads-registered-gues= t/Wi-Fi_DPP_Tech_Spec_v0_0_23.pdf

=C2=A0

The WFA is looking for review and comme= nts on this specification.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Paul

=C2=A0

From: Cfrg [mailto:cfrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Eggert, Lars
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:52 AM
To: cfrg@irtf.org=
Subject: [Cfrg] Fwd: [T2TRG] dpp

=C2=A0

Potentially of interest to the group - email on t2tr= g@



Begin forwarded message:

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From: Paul Lambe= rt <paul@marvell.c= om>

Subject: Re: [T2TRG] dpp

Date: July 21, 2= 016 at 17:45:00 GMT+2

Cc: Gabino Sol= ano <gsolano@wi-f= i.org>

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=

The Wifi Alliance is working on a protocol that is = intended to improve initial access for devices.=C2=A0 While the spec is not= public, the blurb about the spec is.=C2=A0 It says:

=C2=A0

Device Provi= sioning Protocol

With the increase in Wi-Fi CERTIFIED devices availa= ble, end users have the ability to add a more diverse set of devices to the= ir Wi-Fi networks, including a growing range of devices that do not have a rich user interface. Wi-Fi Alliance Device Prov= isioning Protocol will enhance the user experience with a simple, secure, a= nd consistent method for on- and off-boarding any type of device on a Wi-Fi= network.

I=E2=80=99m working to expedite an open cryptograph= ic review of the current draft of the DPP specification.=C2=A0 The Wi-Fi Al= liance staff is still working on the process to solicit comments, but there should be something that can be shared within a few weeks. If yo= u are interesting in reviewing this draft please send a note to Gabino Sola= no (cc=E2=80=99ed).

=C2=A0

Paul

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Eliot

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

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