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Hi,

Next IPP WG call on 03/15/= 18.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software = Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux= Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group=
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designat= ed Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusichttp://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc=
mailto: bl= ueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2= =A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI = 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1032195272698844775==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1032195272698844775== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1148096671b20705665d5366" --001a1148096671b20705665d5366 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Till Kamppeter Date: Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 12:34 PM Subject: Re: IPP related project ideas for GSoC 2018. To: Aveek Basu , "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec)" Cc: Ira McDonald , Michael R Sweet < msweet@apple.com> On 2018-02-27 18:47, Aveek Basu wrote: > Hi Smith, > > We have the following three ideas for GSoC 2018 final list : > > * Enhancements for ipptool > * PWG Raster "lint" program > * Enhance "ippserver" to support the full range of IPP data types > > Smith, another project which needs a mentor: Make the pdftoraster filters in cups-filters use Poppler standard API Make the pdftoraster filter in cups-filters which uses Poppler only use the standard API of Poppler and no instable, inofficial APIs. Either use any raster output format which Poppler already provides (for example via pdftoppm or pdftocairo) or work with the Poppler upstream developers on getting CUPS/PWG Raster added to Poppler. Till --001a1148096671b20705665d5366 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


---------- Forwarded message ----------
F= rom: Till Kamppeter <= ;till.kamppeter@gmail.com&g= t;
Date: Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: IPP related= project ideas for GSoC 2018.
To: Aveek Basu <aveek.basu@lexmark.com>, "Kennedy, Smith (Wi= reless & Standards Architec)" <smith.kennedy@hp.com>
Cc: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>, Michael R Swe= et <msweet@apple.com>

=
On 2018-02-27 18:47, Aveek Basu wrote:
Hi Smith,

We have the following three ideas for GSoC 2018 final list :

 =C2=A0 * Enhancements for ipptool
=C2=A0 * PWG Raster "lint" program
=C2=A0 * Enhance "ippserver" to support the full range of IPP dat= a types


Smith, another project which needs a mentor:

Make the pdftoraster filters in cups-filters use Poppler standard API

Make the pdftoraster filter in cups-filters which uses Poppler only use the= standard API of Poppler and no instable, inofficial APIs. Either use any r= aster output format which Poppler already provides (for example via pdftopp= m or pdftocairo) or work with the Poppler upstream developers on getting CU= PS/PWG Raster added to Poppler.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Till

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However, some Job or Document attributes such as "compression" may not be specified by a Job Creation operation (Print-Job, Print-URI, or Create-Job, as per RFC 8011 section 4.1.9) but rather by a Send-Document operation, which is strictly speaking not a Job Creation operation, but rather a Job operation or Document Creation operation, depending on which spec you read (RFC 8011 or PWG 5100.5). Clarify each sub-section of 5.2 to make it clear that the corresponding Job Template or Document Template attribute may not be specified in the Job Creation operation, but rather in a Document Creation operation / Job operation such as Send-Document or Send-URI. 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boundary="===============2396439547984999838==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============2396439547984999838== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_15F94D16-717D-4982-9B9F-3503070C7CE8"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_15F94D16-717D-4982-9B9F-3503070C7CE8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi there, I've been fielding a few questions about Send-Document, and everybody is = reading RFC 8011 (after I ask them to move to that from 2911). I just = dealt with a question having to do with the 'document-attributes-tag' = and Send-Document. I was surprised to find that in 8011 we didn't = include mention of the 'document-attributes-tag' even though there are = references to PWG 5100.5.=20 Is there a conscious reason why we didn't add that? Or was it an = oversight and hence worthy of an erratum report against 8011? = Cross-references such as this would help close the loop especially if it = was listed as optional in 8011, which wouldn't change the normative = requirements for IPP/1.1 IMO. 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13:54:56 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: <03D20FCB-DDF5-41BB-B159-C780CCCC4DFE@hp.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 16:54:53 -0500 Message-id: <2FD50621-418D-4294-B822-8FCAAD0BCB12@apple.com> References: <03D20FCB-DDF5-41BB-B159-C780CCCC4DFE@hp.com> To: Smith Kennedy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.15) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrJLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FAYrLuBaXGUwdLbehbH9r1ksXjVtYvZ gclj17adTB7zFk9nCmCK4rJJSc3JLEst0rdL4Mr4NnMfY8EUvoo5i54yNzAe4O5i5OSQEDCR 6Pw/g6mLkYtDSGA1k8SxLxdZuxg5wBJHOwNAaoQEDjJKbD3ICmLzCghK/Jh8jwWkhFlAXuLg eVmQMLOAlsT3R60sEGM+M0ocbHjLDpIQFpCQON6/kBXCzpb40P+ZCcRmE1CT+D2pDyzOKWAl MWHKXRYQm0VAVeLKywZGiKFqEq+uT2OB2Gsj0TjpPAvEPZYSDat6wOaLCGhIfJjSzAbxi5LE +qmHmUGOkBBoZJOYsX0BywRG4VlI7p6FcPcsJHcvYGRexSiUm5iZo5uZZ6KXWFCQk6qXnJ+7 iREU1tPthHYwnlpldYhRgINRiYd3x9RFUUKsiWXFlbmHGKU5WJTEeStKF0QJCaQnlqRmp6YW pBbFF5XmpBYfYmTi4JRqYFzN/qLn23q+36u+pbQe/RpTscIoWSJkwomJxTM0b+863jrhZydP 4HMV++/5/6TOx78+vXTHFv6n05c/+Rme2iJb82HaVvEM6VTfvPZPUq33vhdn8flqme36PeND 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X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Smith, PWG 5100.5 is an extension to IPP/1.1 that defines the Document object, the document-attributes-tag (group) value, and the amended semantics for the Send-Document and Send-URI operations. None of that was part of the core IPP/1.1 (which is what RFC 8011 defines) and we've historically been conservative about requiring support for the Document object extension - right now only IPP/2.2 and IPP INFRA require it and most implementations only support a single document per job anyways... > On Mar 9, 2018, at 4:37 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > > Hi there, > > I've been fielding a few questions about Send-Document, and everybody is reading RFC 8011 (after I ask them to move to that from 2911). I just dealt with a question having to do with the 'document-attributes-tag' and Send-Document. I was surprised to find that in 8011 we didn't include mention of the 'document-attributes-tag' even though there are references to PWG 5100.5. > > Is there a conscious reason why we didn't add that? Or was it an oversight and hence worthy of an erratum report against 8011? Cross-references such as this would help close the loop especially if it was listed as optional in 8011, which wouldn't change the normative requirements for IPP/1.1 IMO. > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sun Mar 11 20:25:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75861124234 for ; 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boundary="===============4017638143419674161==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4017638143419674161== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_79E63A7A-595D-4129-8991-DC6FFD55A070"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_79E63A7A-595D-4129-8991-DC6FFD55A070 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, I have just posted a new draft of IPP Job Save Password: = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.pdf = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.odt = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.pd= f = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.od= t This draft refactors the proposed attributes as per the discussion back = in December 2017 and that we further briefly discussed at the February = 2018 F2F. 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Mon, 12 Mar 2018 06:48:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:48:28 -0400 Message-id: <402B0CB0-4C2E-4721-A179-8FF86140A880@apple.com> References: To: Smith Kennedy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.15) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrBLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FDorKvfuizK4PFERYtj+16yWLzq2sXs wOSxa9tOJo95i6czBTBFcdmkpOZklqUW6dslcGX0TZ3FVvBcqOJRn3AD4wr+LkYODgkBE4n7 V+u6GLk4hARWM0lcWfOMBSY+5VQZRPwQo8Sp+R9Yuxg5OXgFBCV+TL4HVsMsIC9x8LwsSJhZ QEvi+6NWFoj6r4wSb+asZAdJCAtISBzvX8gKYXtLfFg2kQ3EZhNQk/g9qQ8szilgJXHmwgqw ehYBVYmT+zrZIYaqSby6Po0FYq+NxJadN5lBbCEBS4mTd4+DzRER0JD4MKUZzJYQUJJYP/Uw M8gREgJ/WSVeN/exT2AUnoXk7lkId89CcvcCRuZVjEK5iZk5upl5RnqJBQU5qXrJ+bmbGEFB Pd1OcAfj8VVWhxgFOBiVeHgNmpdFCbEmlhVX5h5ilOZgURLnnSqzOEpIID2xJDU7NbUgtSi+ qDQntfgQIxMHp1QDo6XYVaWXN98ILm66uH7Prx/CQQ8dBT/tfnPlUOSXrwksgYbTDzPs7+KR MbmoefO9iteD49uVS3Ic2jZmalXXG4of7ww8duSNiez3JZUHulI5HoVes/dlW7BvwjzJdacj FginPtuhZSyprr70/Jf6opua077L/4+uKBMQvLBmeeE/2U1XeSakNimxFGckGmoxFxUnAgDn 3zUJSwIAAA== X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FA8W1e/dVmUwZrZUhbH9r1ksXjVtYvZ gclj17adTB7zFk9nCmCK4rJJSc3JLEst0rdL4MromzqLreC5UMWjPuEGxhX8XYwcHBICJhJT TpV1MXJxCAkcYpQ4Nf8DaxcjJwevgKDEj8n3WEBqmAXkJQ6elwUJMwtoSXx/1MoCUf+VUeLN nJXsIAlhAQmJ4/0LWSFsb4kPyyaygdhsAmoSvyf1gcU5BawkzlxYAVbPIqAqcXJfJzvEUDWJ V9ensUDstZHYsvMmM4gtJGApcfLucbA5IgIaEh+mNIPZEgJKEuunHmaewCgwC8mpsxBOnYXk 1AWMzKsYBYpScxIrjfQSCwpyUvWS83M3MYLDsNB5B+OxZVaHGAU4GJV4eA2al0UJsSaWFVfm AsOCg1lJhPeOJlCINyWxsiq1KD++qDQntfgQozQHi5I4r6Hk4ighgfTEktTs1NSC1CKYLBMH pxQwfHN1EkJOztrgz/epxaB4at/hH79mnAmZwqG7ujzvZEZWXIBgvMksM4UrvM57dsssz6rX OP7HPDz1YHyq89V/H/en/t/uy6zwz+KE5X57fkPFmn0/XWrXFH64Un2c3dJ8yWN3frHtJte/ y4p81X/As+yPTvbbLu270c/C581v7NqvtuemK8stJZbijERDLeai4kQAVGBexT8CAAA= Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] Updated draft of IPP Job Save Password posted for review X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Smith, Some quick feedback after looking at the new draft: - Abstract: The wording here seems a little redundantly redundant. :) - Sections 4.1.3 and 4.1.5: RFC updates - 7616 for Digest and 7617 for Basic. - Section 4.1.6 (and this is probably an errata for IPP Scan and IPP INFRA as well): access-x509-certificate is insufficient by itself for authentication - you need the private key as well to do the signing (to prove that you "own" the certificate...) Probably need to say that the printer obtains the signing key through an out-of-band means. - Section 5.1: Not sure how to use this attribute; we don't have its equivalent for IPP Scan or INFRA. - I think we'll need to add an Additional Semantics section to briefly say that job-save-accesses gets copied to the Job Object but not returned as a Job attribute. - Section 16: Should say more about protecting the values of job-save-accesses in transit and at rest. Overall I think the draft is shaping up, although my gut says we still need to frame/document the scope and usage a little more - right now I can see how this would provide credentials for the save process but not how it requires those credentials for the reprint use case. > On Mar 11, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > > Greetings, > > I have just posted a new draft of IPP Job Save Password: > > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.pdf > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.odt > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.pdf > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.odt > > This draft refactors the proposed attributes as per the discussion back in December 2017 and that we further briefly discussed at the February 2018 F2F. > > Cheers, > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Mar 12 07:43:37 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F5D126DEE for ; 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boundary="===============2367062409499575584==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============2367062409499575584== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002f5d980567382a7c" --0000000000002f5d980567382a7c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, >From here (Detroit area in Michigan), entire PWG site (HTTP and FTP) has been down for several hours. I can't reach the home page via HTTP. FTP connects, but an "ls" hangs indefinitely and Control-C hangs trying to break the connections. So I can't fetch these files just now. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Smith, > > Some quick feedback after looking at the new draft: > > - Abstract: The wording here seems a little redundantly redundant. :) > > - Sections 4.1.3 and 4.1.5: RFC updates - 7616 for Digest and 7617 for > Basic. > > - Section 4.1.6 (and this is probably an errata for IPP Scan and IPP INFRA > as well): access-x509-certificate is insufficient by itself for > authentication - you need the private key as well to do the signing (to > prove that you "own" the certificate...) Probably need to say that the > printer obtains the signing key through an out-of-band means. > > - Section 5.1: Not sure how to use this attribute; we don't have its > equivalent for IPP Scan or INFRA. > > - I think we'll need to add an Additional Semantics section to briefly say > that job-save-accesses gets copied to the Job Object but not returned as a > Job attribute. > > - Section 16: Should say more about protecting the values of > job-save-accesses in transit and at rest. > > Overall I think the draft is shaping up, although my gut says we still > need to frame/document the scope and usage a little more - right now I can > see how this would provide credentials for the save process but not how it > requires those credentials for the reprint use case. > > > > On Mar 11, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards > Architec) wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > I have just posted a new draft of IPP Job Save Password: > > > > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb- > savepassword-20180311.pdf > > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb- > savepassword-20180311.odt > > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb- > savepassword-20180311-rev.pdf > > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb- > savepassword-20180311-rev.odt > > > > This draft refactors the proposed attributes as per the discussion back > in December 2017 and that we further briefly discussed at the February 2018 > F2F. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Smith > > > > /** > > Smith Kennedy > > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC > Forum / USB-IF > > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > > HP Inc. > > */ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipp mailing list > > ipp@pwg.org > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > --0000000000002f5d980567382a7c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

From here (= Detroit area in Michigan), entire PWG site (HTTP and FTP) has been down for= several hours.
I can't reach the home page via HTTP.=C2=A0=C2= =A0 FTP connects, but an "ls" hangs indefinitely and Control-C ha= ngs
trying to break the connections.

So I can't f= etch these files just now.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mo= bility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secreta= ry - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet P= rinting Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Bl= ue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites= .google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://si= tes.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April:= 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec:= PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434


On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Michael Swe= et <msweet@apple.com> wrote:


> On Mar 11, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards= Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com= > wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I have just posted a new draft of IPP Job Save Password:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://ftp.= pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.pdf >=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://ftp.= pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.odt >=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://= ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.p= df
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://= ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.o= dt
>
> This draft refactors the proposed attributes as per the discussion bac= k in December 2017 and that we further briefly discussed at the February 20= 18 F2F.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Smith
>
> /**
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Allianc= e / NFC Forum / USB-IF
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 HP Inc.
> */
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ipp mailing list
> ipp@pwg.org
> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

_________________________________________________________
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boundary="===============5640789113874009113==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5640789113874009113== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_62B61180-7E95-4E7F-B8F7-0A9E7DE40A9C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_62B61180-7E95-4E7F-B8F7-0A9E7DE40A9C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DA17CE41-50D1-45BD-AD58-7E54059CD12C" --Apple-Mail=_DA17CE41-50D1-45BD-AD58-7E54059CD12C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmmm, maybe something on your end? HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP all working for = me to both ftp.pwg.org and www.pwg.org = . Smith > On Mar 12, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Ira McDonald = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > =46rom here (Detroit area in Michigan), entire PWG site (HTTP and FTP) = has been down for several hours. > I can't reach the home page via HTTP. FTP connects, but an "ls" = hangs indefinitely and Control-C hangs > trying to break the connections. >=20 > So I can't fetch these files just now. >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic = > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc = > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Michael Sweet > wrote: > Smith, >=20 > Some quick feedback after looking at the new draft: >=20 > - Abstract: The wording here seems a little redundantly redundant. :) >=20 > - Sections 4.1.3 and 4.1.5: RFC updates - 7616 for Digest and 7617 for = Basic. >=20 > - Section 4.1.6 (and this is probably an errata for IPP Scan and IPP = INFRA as well): access-x509-certificate is insufficient by itself for = authentication - you need the private key as well to do the signing (to = prove that you "own" the certificate...) Probably need to say that the = printer obtains the signing key through an out-of-band means. >=20 > - Section 5.1: Not sure how to use this attribute; we don't have its = equivalent for IPP Scan or INFRA. >=20 > - I think we'll need to add an Additional Semantics section to briefly = say that job-save-accesses gets copied to the Job Object but not = returned as a Job attribute. >=20 > - Section 16: Should say more about protecting the values of = job-save-accesses in transit and at rest. >=20 > Overall I think the draft is shaping up, although my gut says we still = need to frame/document the scope and usage a little more - right now I = can see how this would provide credentials for the save process but not = how it requires those credentials for the reprint use case. >=20 >=20 > > On Mar 11, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) > wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > I have just posted a new draft of IPP Job Save Password: > > > > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.pdf = > > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.odt = > > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.pd= f = > > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.od= t = > > > > This draft refactors the proposed attributes as per the discussion = back in December 2017 and that we further briefly discussed at the = February 2018 F2F. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Smith > > > > /** > > Smith Kennedy > > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF > > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > > HP Inc. > > */ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipp mailing list > > ipp@pwg.org > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >=20 --Apple-Mail=_DA17CE41-50D1-45BD-AD58-7E54059CD12C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hmmm,= maybe something on your end? HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP all working for me to = both ftp.pwg.org and = www.pwg.org.

Smith



On Mar 12, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

=46rom here (Detroit = area in Michigan), entire PWG site (HTTP and FTP) has been down for = several hours.
I can't reach the home page via = HTTP.   FTP connects, but an "ls" hangs indefinitely and = Control-C hangs
trying to break the connections.

So I can't fetch these files just = now.

Cheers,
- = Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software = Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  = 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI = 49839  906-494-2434


On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:48 = AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Smith,

Some quick feedback after looking at the new draft:

- Abstract: The wording here seems a little redundantly redundant. :)

- Sections 4.1.3 and 4.1.5: RFC updates - 7616 for Digest and 7617 for = Basic.

- Section 4.1.6 (and this is probably an errata for IPP Scan and IPP = INFRA as well): access-x509-certificate is insufficient by itself for = authentication - you need the private key as well to do the signing (to = prove that you "own" the certificate...) Probably need to say that the = printer obtains the signing key through an out-of-band means.

- Section 5.1: Not sure how to use this attribute; we don't have its = equivalent for IPP Scan or INFRA.

- I think we'll need to add an Additional Semantics section to briefly = say that job-save-accesses gets copied to the Job Object but not = returned as a Job attribute.

- Section 16: Should say more about protecting the values of = job-save-accesses in transit and at rest.

Overall I think the draft is shaping up, although my gut says we still = need to frame/document the scope and usage a little more - right now I = can see how this would provide credentials for the save process but not = how it requires those credentials for the reprint use case.
=


> On Mar 11, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & = Standards Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I have just posted a new draft of IPP Job Save Password:
>
>   https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.pdf
>   https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.odt
>   https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.pdf
>   https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.odt
>
> This draft refactors the proposed attributes as per the discussion = back in December 2017 and that we further briefly discussed at the = February 2018 F2F.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Smith
>
> /**
>    Smith Kennedy
>    Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
>    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi = Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
>    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>    HP Inc.
> */
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ipp mailing list
> ipp@pwg.org
> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp
_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp


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charset="UTF-8" Hi Smith, Probably on my end - my ISP seems to be selectively going in the weeds for PWG (otherwise working fine to all other sites so far this morning) - yesterday, PWG home page was taking *forever* with Firefox mentioning stalled CDN servers. Cheers, - Ira PS - I'm going to do a hard reboot - have stopped and reloaded Firefox several times. Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > Hmmm, maybe something on your end? HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP all working for me > to both ftp.pwg.org and www.pwg.org. > > Smith > > > > On Mar 12, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: > > Hi, > > From here (Detroit area in Michigan), entire PWG site (HTTP and FTP) has > been down for several hours. > I can't reach the home page via HTTP. FTP connects, but an "ls" hangs > indefinitely and Control-C hangs > trying to break the connections. > > So I can't fetch these files just now. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > <(734)%20944-0094> > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > <(906)%20494-2434> > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > >> Smith, >> >> Some quick feedback after looking at the new draft: >> >> - Abstract: The wording here seems a little redundantly redundant. :) >> >> - Sections 4.1.3 and 4.1.5: RFC updates - 7616 for Digest and 7617 for >> Basic. >> >> - Section 4.1.6 (and this is probably an errata for IPP Scan and IPP >> INFRA as well): access-x509-certificate is insufficient by itself for >> authentication - you need the private key as well to do the signing (to >> prove that you "own" the certificate...) Probably need to say that the >> printer obtains the signing key through an out-of-band means. >> >> - Section 5.1: Not sure how to use this attribute; we don't have its >> equivalent for IPP Scan or INFRA. >> >> - I think we'll need to add an Additional Semantics section to briefly >> say that job-save-accesses gets copied to the Job Object but not returned >> as a Job attribute. >> >> - Section 16: Should say more about protecting the values of >> job-save-accesses in transit and at rest. >> >> Overall I think the draft is shaping up, although my gut says we still >> need to frame/document the scope and usage a little more - right now I can >> see how this would provide credentials for the save process but not how it >> requires those credentials for the reprint use case. >> >> >> > On Mar 11, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards >> Architec) wrote: >> > >> > Greetings, >> > >> > I have just posted a new draft of IPP Job Save Password: >> > >> > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword- >> 20180311.pdf >> > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword- >> 20180311.odt >> > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword- >> 20180311-rev.pdf >> > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword- >> 20180311-rev.odt >> > >> > This draft refactors the proposed attributes as per the discussion back >> in December 2017 and that we further briefly discussed at the February 2018 >> F2F. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Smith >> > >> > /** >> > Smith Kennedy >> > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS >> > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC >> Forum / USB-IF >> > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >> > HP Inc. >> > */ >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > ipp mailing list >> > ipp@pwg.org >> > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> > > > --94eb2c1bca942d5637056738a8e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Smith,

Proba= bly on my end - my ISP seems to be selectively going in the weeds for PWG (= otherwise working
fine to all other sites so far this morning) - y= esterday, PWG home page was taking *forever* with Firefox
mentioni= ng stalled CDN servers.

Cheers,
- Ira

PS= - I'm going to do a hard reboot - have stopped and reloaded Firefox se= veral times.


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)=
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundatio= n Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Cha= ir - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto= : blueroofmusi= c@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176= =C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2= =A0 906-494-2434


On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Kennedy, S= mith (Wireless & Standards Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com>= wrote:
Hmmm, maybe something on your end? H= TTP, HTTPS, and FTP all working for me to both ftp.pwg.org=C2=A0and www.pwg.org.

Smith



On Mar 12, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Ira Mc= Donald <blu= eroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

From here (Detroit area in Michigan), entire PWG site (= HTTP and FTP) has been down for several hours.
I can't reach t= he home page via HTTP.=C2=A0=C2=A0 FTP connects, but an "ls" hang= s indefinitely and Control-C hangs
trying to break the connections= .

So I can't fetch these files just now.

Chee= rs,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician= / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
C= hair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer W= orking Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
I= ETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High Nor= th Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/bl= ueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site= /highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Plac= e=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221= =C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

<= /div>

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Michael Swe= et <msweet@apple.com> wrote:


> On Mar 11, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards= Architec) <sm= ith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I have just posted a new draft of IPP Job Save Password:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://ftp.= pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.pdf >=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://ftp.= pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.odt >=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://= ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.p= df
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://= ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.o= dt
>
> This draft refactors the proposed attributes as per the discussion bac= k in December 2017 and that we further briefly discussed at the February 20= 18 F2F.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Smith
>
> /**
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Allianc= e / NFC Forum / USB-IF
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 HP Inc.
> */
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ipp mailing list
> ipp@pwg.org
> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp


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boundary="===============0248780117476985137==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0248780117476985137== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_774E6640-C77C-4863-A7D8-20BAF75DA062"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_774E6640-C77C-4863-A7D8-20BAF75DA062 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Mar 9, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > Smith, >=20 > PWG 5100.5 is an extension to IPP/1.1 that defines the Document = object, the document-attributes-tag (group) value, and the amended = semantics for the Send-Document and Send-URI operations. None of that = was part of the core IPP/1.1 (which is what RFC 8011 defines) and we've = historically been conservative about requiring support for the Document = object extension - right now only IPP/2.2 and IPP INFRA require it and = most implementations only support a single document per job anyways... I understand that we cannot add additional normative requirements. I was = just thinking that, if the "document group" were mentioned even in = passing as an optional group in 8011, with a reference to PWG 5100.5, = that would help with the "cross referencing" thing. >=20 >=20 >> On Mar 9, 2018, at 4:37 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) wrote: >>=20 >> Hi there, >>=20 >> I've been fielding a few questions about Send-Document, and everybody = is reading RFC 8011 (after I ask them to move to that from 2911). I just = dealt with a question having to do with the 'document-attributes-tag' = and Send-Document. I was surprised to find that in 8011 we didn't = include mention of the 'document-attributes-tag' even though there are = references to PWG 5100.5. >>=20 >> Is there a conscious reason why we didn't add that? Or was it an = oversight and hence worthy of an erratum report against 8011? = Cross-references such as this would help close the loop especially if it = was listed as optional in 8011, which wouldn't change the normative = requirements for IPP/1.1 IMO. >>=20 >> Smith >>=20 >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS >> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF >> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >> HP Inc. >> */ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 --Apple-Mail=_774E6640-C77C-4863-A7D8-20BAF75DA062 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEX4TM/E2Pr7lTZzy2qskbKLDW1N0FAlqmtf0ACgkQqskbKLDW 1N32NQ//an4MIuQDZ5HppLN2cSGKkvYhZ3tlbbuz8OWKzQtSP2mfLRuA6v9fw2ZT NwyJHYdP46RcAYYaHDNCtntI77ZAeKjY8fzFmqkiE567EUDDdXSU7FLVbQtRpHrY dgGizJkpTyZjNyzDxgqN5ftZiRSd6qHYK7x1omnjkTosSvpLgY+K1RX8T7UNoaOa KIjXeckc4fG4QZIIC8CRkpUcKfgnDULrtSSTHBjzJ2go+sjjNtKuNayMtbBTTvld 21c2o4SKdk3XKuimsTrB3iKyUVUACqIYMCXFVXF+aZxwLHc0YQ6QFdhNYZSJo+78 LaJjv1LcXk6Ierd9PaCatUHq5vHCvjyzvXBhqSSxF9koWjgF5b5Q0Eh7QE0Khp6F VCwGct8+yO0qkZbC5GzCvUOi9MPptBukeAsQwRAttUMbXAz7DO4mV/iMR3CqpZSx cOZGfQpoCYqeLgZzYfKYVjQNLOAHmsuBrQHckXO1tCbgeh3XD4baQA7Da9ytxtru ok72szk4z671qh4yxenjJgcJocju62y09J4Oy+nPFOIN7BIcao7Jbkep3AkjgxPy FDjYK9jyZi2+WVYGVyDk+jt3RifD3bXhjx8YMDDFlrvJOJ4StFCcK7wFIgICLwFW lYWhWB4JVOk4u6M9ExoNBJkDbhaPbg/srLnEQ50gtWiQm5MjJHw= =xUeL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_774E6640-C77C-4863-A7D8-20BAF75DA062-- --===============0248780117476985137== Content-Type: text/plain; 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boundary="===============8055425547166392815==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8055425547166392815== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f4f5e80c906494f5e505673b434f" --f4f5e80c906494f5e505673b434f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I agree with Mike. Document object has the complexity of the Job object plus bells and whistles. Subscription object covering multiple targets (System, Printer, Job, Document) is complex. Even IPP/2.0 (w/ 2.1 and 2.2) is just brief lists of required attributes and operations for three levels of IPP Printer capabilities (and no longer even close to all inclusive). RFCs 8010/8011 are meant to be strictly cleanups of RFCs 2910/2911 - the universe of IPP (over 30 IETF and PWG specs) is too broad to cover in one spec, without major omissions. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Smith, > > > On Mar 12, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards > Architec) wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Mar 9, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > >> > >> Smith, > >> > >> PWG 5100.5 is an extension to IPP/1.1 that defines the Document object= , > the document-attributes-tag (group) value, and the amended semantics for > the Send-Document and Send-URI operations. None of that was part of the > core IPP/1.1 (which is what RFC 8011 defines) and we've historically been > conservative about requiring support for the Document object extension - > right now only IPP/2.2 and IPP INFRA require it and most implementations > only support a single document per job anyways... > > > > I understand that we cannot add additional normative requirements. I wa= s > just thinking that, if the "document group" were mentioned even in passin= g > as an optional group in 8011, with a reference to PWG 5100.5, that would > help with the "cross referencing" thing. > > We also have the Subscription object and its associated attribute group > that can be included in Job Creation operations but which we don't say > anything about (beyond a reference in the introduction)... > > I think the last thing we want to do is One Spec to Rule Them All=E2=84= =A2. And > honestly I don't think that mentioning other attribute groups without > providing any details will be all that useful, especially for something a= s > complicated as the Document object extension. > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > --f4f5e80c906494f5e505673b434f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I= agree with Mike.=C2=A0 Document object has the complexity of the Job objec= t plus bells and whistles.
Subscription object covering multiple t= argets (System, Printer, Job, Document) is complex.

Even IPP/2= .0 (w/ 2.1 and 2.2) is just brief lists of required attributes and operatio= ns for three levels
of IPP Printer capabilities (and no longer eve= n close to all inclusive).

RFCs 8010/8011 are meant to be stri= ctly cleanups of RFCs 2910/2911 - the universe of IPP (over
30 IET= F and PWG specs) is too broad to cover in one spec, without major omissions= .

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Music= ian / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WGChair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printe= r Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WGIETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High = North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blue= roofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/h= ighnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0= Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Gra= nd Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434


On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Michael Swe= et <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

> On Mar 12, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com<= /a>> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
>>
>> Smith,
>>
>> PWG 5100.5 is an extension to IPP/1.1 that defines the Document ob= ject, the document-attributes-tag (group) value, and the amended semantics = for the Send-Document and Send-URI operations.=C2=A0 None of that was part = of the core IPP/1.1 (which is what RFC 8011 defines) and we've historic= ally been conservative about requiring support for the Document object exte= nsion - right now only IPP/2.2 and IPP INFRA require it and most implementa= tions only support a single document per job anyways...
>
> I understand that we cannot add additional normative requirements. I w= as just thinking that, if the "document group" were mentioned eve= n in passing as an optional group in 8011, with a reference to PWG 5100.5, = that would help with the "cross referencing" thing.

We also have the Subscription object and its associated attribute gr= oup that can be included in Job Creation operations but which we don't = say anything about (beyond a reference in the introduction)...

I think the last thing we want to do is One Spec to Rule Them All=E2=84=A2.= =C2=A0 And honestly I don't think that mentioning other attribute group= s without providing any details will be all that useful, especially for som= ething as complicated as the Document object extension.

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Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

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(ptykodi@tykodi.com@174.199.42.66) by 0 with ESMTPA; 12 Mar 2018 21:54:17 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Paul Tykodi X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (15D100) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 17:54:16 -0400 Message-Id: References: <03D20FCB-DDF5-41BB-B159-C780CCCC4DFE@hp.com> <2FD50621-418D-4294-B822-8FCAAD0BCB12@apple.com> <30F15A20-13F1-42D6-BDB0-791DAE51DD22@hp.com> <9E1601BD-E052-40F0-A9F4-8E7A3A01A6C3@apple.com> To: Ira McDonald Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] Erratum on RFC 8011 : 'document-attributes-group' not mentioned in Send-Document, etc. X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1913218592009194783==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1913218592009194783== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9722E51C-E7C8-40B1-91C4-2E018179692D Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-9722E51C-E7C8-40B1-91C4-2E018179692D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ira, Do you think the document object might be a good topic to cover in the IPP b= ook we have been discussing? Thanks. Best Regards, /Paul Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 12, 2018, at 2:24 PM, Ira McDonald wrote:= >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I agree with Mike. Document object has the complexity of the Job object p= lus bells and whistles. > Subscription object covering multiple targets (System, Printer, Job, Docum= ent) is complex. >=20 > Even IPP/2.0 (w/ 2.1 and 2.2) is just brief lists of required attributes a= nd operations for three levels > of IPP Printer capabilities (and no longer even close to all inclusive). >=20 > RFCs 8010/8011 are meant to be strictly cleanups of RFCs 2910/2911 - the u= niverse of IPP (over > 30 IETF and PWG specs) is too broad to cover in one spec, without major om= issions. >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira >=20 >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 >=20 >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >> Smith, >>=20 >> > On Mar 12, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Archi= tec) wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> >> On Mar 9, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >> >> >> >> Smith, >> >> >> >> PWG 5100.5 is an extension to IPP/1.1 that defines the Document object= , the document-attributes-tag (group) value, and the amended semantics for t= he Send-Document and Send-URI operations. None of that was part of the core= IPP/1.1 (which is what RFC 8011 defines) and we've historically been conser= vative about requiring support for the Document object extension - right now= only IPP/2.2 and IPP INFRA require it and most implementations only support= a single document per job anyways... >> > >> > I understand that we cannot add additional normative requirements. I wa= s just thinking that, if the "document group" were mentioned even in passing= as an optional group in 8011, with a reference to PWG 5100.5, that would he= lp with the "cross referencing" thing. >>=20 >> We also have the Subscription object and its associated attribute group t= hat can be included in Job Creation operations but which we don't say anythi= ng about (beyond a reference in the introduction)... >>=20 >> I think the last thing we want to do is One Spec to Rule Them All=E2=84=A2= . And honestly I don't think that mentioning other attribute groups without= providing any details will be all that useful, especially for something as c= omplicated as the Document object extension. >>=20 >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --Apple-Mail-9722E51C-E7C8-40B1-91C4-2E018179692D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ira,

Do you think the= document object might be a good topic to cover in the IPP book we have been= discussing?

Thanks.

Best R= egards,

/Paul

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2018, at 2:24 PM, Ira McDonald= <blueroofmusic@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:

Hi,

I agree with Mike. = ; Document object has the complexity of the Job object plus bells and whistl= es.
Subscription object covering multiple targets (System, Printer,= Job, Document) is complex.

Even IPP/2.0 (w/ 2.1 and 2.2) is ju= st brief lists of required attributes and operations for three levels
of IPP Printer capabilities (and no longer even close to all inclusive).<= br>
RFCs 8010/8011 are meant to be strictly cleanups of RFCs 2910/2= 911 - the universe of IPP (over
30 IETF and PWG specs) is too broad= to cover in one spec, without major omissions.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Ch= air - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Pri= nting WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-I= STO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & P= rinter MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
= Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434

=
=

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Michael Swee= t <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Sm= ith,

> On Mar 12, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards A= rchitec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
>>
>> Smith,
>>
>> PWG 5100.5 is an extension to IPP/1.1 that defines the Document obj= ect, the document-attributes-tag (group) value, and the amended semantics fo= r the Send-Document and Send-URI operations.  None of that was part of t= he core IPP/1.1 (which is what RFC 8011 defines) and we've historically been= conservative about requiring support for the Document object extension - ri= ght now only IPP/2.2 and IPP INFRA require it and most implementations only s= upport a single document per job anyways...
>
> I understand that we cannot add additional normative requirements. I wa= s just thinking that, if the "document group" were mentioned even in passing= as an optional group in 8011, with a reference to PWG 5100.5, that would he= lp with the "cross referencing" thing.

We also have the Subscription object and its associated attribute gro= up that can be included in Job Creation operations but which we don't say an= ything about (beyond a reference in the introduction)...

I think the last thing we want to do is One Spec to Rule Them All=E2=84=A2.&= nbsp; And honestly I don't think that mentioning other attribute groups with= out providing any details will be all that useful, especially for something a= s complicated as the Document object extension.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

_______________________________________________
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ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

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boundary="===============2263560668077770720==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============2263560668077770720== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_s2+CvF7vHymH2VoAW1r61A)" --Boundary_(ID_s2+CvF7vHymH2VoAW1r61A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Paul, No, the purpose of the IPP book is to document the basics that can be = used on most/all printers. The document object extension does not meet = that criteria... > On Mar 12, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Paul Tykodi wrote: >=20 > Hi Ira, >=20 > Do you think the document object might be a good topic to cover in the = IPP book we have been discussing? >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > Best Regards, >=20 > /Paul >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Mar 12, 2018, at 2:24 PM, Ira McDonald > wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> I agree with Mike. Document object has the complexity of the Job = object plus bells and whistles. >> Subscription object covering multiple targets (System, Printer, Job, = Document) is complex. >>=20 >> Even IPP/2.0 (w/ 2.1 and 2.2) is just brief lists of required = attributes and operations for three levels >> of IPP Printer capabilities (and no longer even close to all = inclusive). >>=20 >> RFCs 8010/8011 are meant to be strictly cleanups of RFCs 2910/2911 - = the universe of IPP (over >> 30 IETF and PWG specs) is too broad to cover in one spec, without = major omissions. >>=20 >> Cheers, >> - Ira >>=20 >>=20 >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic = >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc = >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 >> May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Michael Sweet > wrote: >> Smith, >>=20 >> > On Mar 12, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) > wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> >> On Mar 9, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Michael Sweet > wrote: >> >> >> >> Smith, >> >> >> >> PWG 5100.5 is an extension to IPP/1.1 that defines the Document = object, the document-attributes-tag (group) value, and the amended = semantics for the Send-Document and Send-URI operations. None of that = was part of the core IPP/1.1 (which is what RFC 8011 defines) and we've = historically been conservative about requiring support for the Document = object extension - right now only IPP/2.2 and IPP INFRA require it and = most implementations only support a single document per job anyways... >> > >> > I understand that we cannot add additional normative requirements. = I was just thinking that, if the "document group" were mentioned even in = passing as an optional group in 8011, with a reference to PWG 5100.5, = that would help with the "cross referencing" thing. >>=20 >> We also have the Subscription object and its associated attribute = group that can be included in Job Creation operations but which we don't = say anything about (beyond a reference in the introduction)... >>=20 >> I think the last thing we want to do is One Spec to Rule Them All=E2=84= =A2. And honestly I don't think that mentioning other attribute groups = without providing any details will be all that useful, especially for = something as complicated as the Document object extension. >>=20 >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_s2+CvF7vHymH2VoAW1r61A) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Paul,

No, = the purpose of the IPP book is to document the basics that can be used = on most/all printers.  The document object extension does not meet = that criteria...


On Mar 12, 2018, at 5:54 PM, = Paul Tykodi <ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:

Hi Ira,

Do you think the document object might = be a good topic to cover in the IPP book we have been = discussing?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

/Paul

Sent from = my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2018, at 2:24 = PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I = agree with Mike.  Document object has the complexity of the Job = object plus bells and whistles.
Subscription object = covering multiple targets (System, Printer, Job, Document) is = complex.

Even IPP/2.0 (w/ 2.1 and = 2.2) is just brief lists of required attributes and operations for three = levels
of IPP Printer capabilities (and no longer = even close to all inclusive).

RFCs = 8010/8011 are meant to be strictly cleanups of RFCs 2910/2911 - the = universe of IPP (over
30 IETF and PWG specs) is too = broad to cover in one spec, without major omissions.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software = Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:51 = PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Smith,

> On Mar 12, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & = Standards Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:
>>
>> Smith,
>>
>> PWG 5100.5 is an extension to IPP/1.1 that defines the Document = object, the document-attributes-tag (group) value, and the amended = semantics for the Send-Document and Send-URI operations.  None of = that was part of the core IPP/1.1 (which is what RFC 8011 defines) and = we've historically been conservative about requiring support for the = Document object extension - right now only IPP/2.2 and IPP INFRA require = it and most implementations only support a single document per job = anyways...
>
> I understand that we cannot add additional normative requirements. = I was just thinking that, if the "document group" were mentioned even in = passing as an optional group in 8011, with a reference to PWG 5100.5, = that would help with the "cross referencing" thing.

We also have the Subscription object and its associated attribute = group that can be included in Job Creation operations but which we don't = say anything about (beyond a reference in the introduction)...

I think the last thing we want to do is One Spec to Rule Them = All=E2=84=A2.  And honestly I don't think that mentioning other = attribute groups without providing any details will be all that useful, = especially for something as complicated as the Document object = extension.

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boundary="===============8748603035694668607==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8748603035694668607== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0D81A3B7-0827-4A0A-B33C-198486E716FA"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_0D81A3B7-0827-4A0A-B33C-198486E716FA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3071B6AA-7874-4E35-AF03-EA37FE34F77A" --Apple-Mail=_3071B6AA-7874-4E35-AF03-EA37FE34F77A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Mike, I know everybody hates it when I do this but I've edited the March 11 = draft to hopefully resolve most of the issues raised. New draft and -rev = copies to the last two revisions here: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180313.pdf = =20= https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180313.odt = =20= = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180313-rev-20= 180311.pdf = =20 = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180313-rev-20= 180311.odt = =20 = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180313-rev-20= 180205.pdf = =20 = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180313-rev-20= 180205.odt = =20 Whenever we review this, this most recent update will hopefully let us = focus on the unresolved issues: > - Section 4.1.6 (and this is probably an errata for IPP Scan and IPP = INFRA as well): access-x509-certificate is insufficient by itself for = authentication - you need the private key as well to do the signing (to = prove that you "own" the certificate...) Probably need to say that the = printer obtains the signing key through an out-of-band means. >=20 > Overall I think the draft is shaping up, although my gut says we still = need to frame/document the scope and usage a little more - right now I = can see how this would provide credentials for the save process but not = how it requires those credentials for the reprint use case. Isn't that a printer implementation question if the credential is = acquired out of band of IPP? HP historically hasn't been interested in = that use case but I can imagine that might be a factor in complex = printing topologies, where the output device and the Printer object = don't reside on the same device. Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ > On Mar 12, 2018, at 7:48 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > Smith, >=20 > Some quick feedback after looking at the new draft: >=20 > - Abstract: The wording here seems a little redundantly redundant. :) >=20 > - Sections 4.1.3 and 4.1.5: RFC updates - 7616 for Digest and 7617 for = Basic. >=20 > - Section 4.1.6 (and this is probably an errata for IPP Scan and IPP = INFRA as well): access-x509-certificate is insufficient by itself for = authentication - you need the private key as well to do the signing (to = prove that you "own" the certificate...) Probably need to say that the = printer obtains the signing key through an out-of-band means. >=20 > - Section 5.1: Not sure how to use this attribute; we don't have its = equivalent for IPP Scan or INFRA. >=20 > - I think we'll need to add an Additional Semantics section to briefly = say that job-save-accesses gets copied to the Job Object but not = returned as a Job attribute. >=20 > - Section 16: Should say more about protecting the values of = job-save-accesses in transit and at rest. >=20 > Overall I think the draft is shaping up, although my gut says we still = need to frame/document the scope and usage a little more - right now I = can see how this would provide credentials for the save process but not = how it requires those credentials for the reprint use case. >=20 >=20 >> On Mar 11, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) wrote: >>=20 >> Greetings, >>=20 >> I have just posted a new draft of IPP Job Save Password: >>=20 >> = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.pdf >> = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.odt >> = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.pd= f >> = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.od= t >>=20 >> This draft refactors the proposed attributes as per the discussion = back in December 2017 and that we further briefly discussed at the = February 2018 F2F. >>=20 >> Cheers, >>=20 >> Smith >>=20 >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS >> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF >> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >> HP Inc. >> */ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 --Apple-Mail=_3071B6AA-7874-4E35-AF03-EA37FE34F77A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = Mike,

I know = everybody hates it when I do this but I've edited the March 11 draft to = hopefully resolve most of the issues raised. New draft and -rev copies = to the last two revisions here:

https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-2018= 0313.pdf 
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-2018= 0313.odt 
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-2018= 0313-rev-20180311.pdf 
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-2018= 0313-rev-20180311.odt 
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-2018= 0313-rev-20180205.pdf 
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-2018= 0313-rev-20180205.odt 

Whenever we review this, = this most recent update will hopefully let us focus on the unresolved = issues:

- Section 4.1.6 (and = this is probably an errata for IPP Scan and IPP INFRA as well): = access-x509-certificate is insufficient by itself for authentication - = you need the private key as well to do the signing (to prove that you = "own" the certificate...) Probably need to say that the printer obtains = the signing key through an out-of-band means.

Overall I = think the draft is shaping up, although my gut says we still need to = frame/document the scope and usage a little more - right now I can see = how this would provide credentials for the save process but not how it = requires those credentials for the reprint use case.

Isn't that = a printer implementation question if the credential is acquired out of = band of IPP? HP historically hasn't been interested in that use case but = I can imagine that might be a factor in complex printing topologies, = where the output device and the Printer object don't reside on the same = device.

Smith

/**
  =   Smith Kennedy
    Wireless & = Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
    Standards - = IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / = USB-IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working = Group
    HP Inc.
*/



On Mar 12, 2018, at 7:48 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:

Smith,

Some quick feedback after = looking at the new draft:

- Abstract: The = wording here seems a little redundantly redundant. :)

- Sections 4.1.3 and 4.1.5: RFC updates - 7616 for Digest and = 7617 for Basic.

- Section 4.1.6 (and this = is probably an errata for IPP Scan and IPP INFRA as well): = access-x509-certificate is insufficient by itself for authentication - = you need the private key as well to do the signing (to prove that you = "own" the certificate...) Probably need to say that the printer obtains = the signing key through an out-of-band means.

- Section 5.1: Not sure how to use this attribute; we don't = have its equivalent for IPP Scan or INFRA.

- = I think we'll need to add an Additional Semantics section to briefly say = that job-save-accesses gets copied to the Job Object but not returned as = a Job attribute.

- Section 16: Should say = more about protecting the values of job-save-accesses in transit and at = rest.

Overall I think the draft is shaping = up, although my gut says we still need to frame/document the scope and = usage a little more - right now I can see how this would provide = credentials for the save process but not how it requires those = credentials for the reprint use case.


On Mar 11, 2018, at = 11:24 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Greetings,

I have just posted a = new draft of IPP Job Save Password:

=  https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-2018= 0311.pdf
 https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-2018= 0311.odt
 https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-2018= 0311-rev.pdf
 https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-2018= 0311-rev.odt

This draft refactors the = proposed attributes as per the discussion back in December 2017 and that = we further briefly discussed at the February 2018 F2F.

Cheers,

Smith

/**
  Smith Kennedy
=   Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
=   Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / = NFC Forum / USB-IF
  Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer = Working Group
  HP Inc.
*/



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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5976354370834686890==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5976354370834686890== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_81O+IMOMxIfDzgSxWZn35g)" --Boundary_(ID_81O+IMOMxIfDzgSxWZn35g) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Smith, No problem having another updated draft... :) As for this: > On Mar 14, 2018, at 12:56 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > ,,, >> - Section 4.1.6 (and this is probably an errata for IPP Scan and IPP INFRA as well): access-x509-certificate is insufficient by itself for authentication - you need the private key as well to do the signing (to prove that you "own" the certificate...) Probably need to say that the printer obtains the signing key through an out-of-band means. >> >> Overall I think the draft is shaping up, although my gut says we still need to frame/document the scope and usage a little more - right now I can see how this would provide credentials for the save process but not how it requires those credentials for the reprint use case. > > Isn't that a printer implementation question if the credential is acquired out of band of IPP? HP historically hasn't been interested in that use case but I can imagine that might be a factor in complex printing topologies, where the output device and the Printer object don't reside on the same device. Well, in the case of the access-xxx member attributes, their usage is fairly unambiguous - the values are the authentication credentials that get passed through to the corresponding URI. What is currently unspecified is how a Printer can use the access-x509-certificate value, as you need to cryptographically sign a challenge from the TLS server using the corresponding private key in order to pass it (as part of the TLS handshake). That part isn't mentioned in the current IPP Scan or IPP INFRA specifications and is what I am saying is an out-of-band, implementation-specific detail that we *should* mention so that implementors are aware they need to do more than just pass a public cert without challenge/authentication. ... My other specific concern is that we still are not addressing the "preserve access control for reprints" use case. Clearly a job that is saved with a username/password could be re-printed by submitting a new job referencing the saved file, which would require the same (or equivalent) credentials. But a reprint using the Resubmit-Job operation bypasses the saved file and uses the original document data. The definition of Resubmit-Job specifies the following access rights: Access Rights: The authenticated user (see [RFC2911] section 8.3) performing this operation must either be the job owner or an operator or administrator of the Printer object (see [RFC2911] Sections 1 and 8.5). Otherwise, the IPP object MUST reject the operation and return: 'client-error-forbidden', 'client-error-not-authenticated', or 'client- error-not-authorized' as appropriate. which allows Jane (assuming she submitted the original job or is an operator or administrator) to reprint the job, re-using (or overriding) any job-password value to hold the job at the printer for release and printing. But that doesn't allow arbitrary users to later reprint that job, nor does it require job-password to be preserved or used (the Resubmit-Job operation can override Job Templates from the original submission...) Perhaps I am over thinking this, but *if* we are addressing the "protected" reprint use case I think we should document the solution we've come up with and the steps that a Client and Printer take in implementing it. :) _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_81O+IMOMxIfDzgSxWZn35g) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Smith,

No problem having another updated = draft... :)  As for this:

On Mar 14, 2018, at = 12:56 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
,,,
- Section 4.1.6 (and = this is probably an errata for IPP Scan and IPP INFRA as well): = access-x509-certificate is insufficient by itself for = authentication - you need the private key as well to do the signing (to = prove that you "own" the certificate...) Probably need to say that = the printer obtains the signing key through an out-of-band means.

Overall I = think the draft is shaping up, although my gut says we still need to = frame/document the scope and usage a little more - right now I can = see how this would provide credentials for the save process but not how = it requires those credentials for the reprint use case.

Isn't that a printer = implementation question if the credential is acquired out of band of = IPP? HP historically hasn't been interested in that use case but I = can imagine that might be a factor in complex printing topologies, where = the output device and the Printer object don't reside on the same = device.

Well, in the case of the access-xxx = member attributes, their usage is fairly unambiguous - the values are = the authentication credentials that get passed through to the = corresponding URI.

What is currently unspecified is how a Printer can use the = access-x509-certificate value, as you need to cryptographically sign a = challenge from the TLS server using the corresponding private key in = order to pass it (as part of the TLS handshake).  That part isn't = mentioned in the current IPP Scan or IPP INFRA specifications and is = what I am saying is an out-of-band, implementation-specific detail that = we *should* mention so that implementors are aware they need to do more = than just pass a public cert without challenge/authentication.

...

My other specific = concern is that we still are not addressing the "preserve access control = for reprints" use case. Clearly a job that is saved with a = username/password could be re-printed by submitting a new job = referencing the saved file, which would require the same (or equivalent) = credentials.  But a reprint using the Resubmit-Job operation = bypasses the saved file and uses the original document data.  The = definition of Resubmit-Job specifies the following access = rights:

Access Rights: The authenticated user = (see [RFC2911] section 8.3) performing this operation must either be = the job owner or an operator or administrator of the Printer = object (see [RFC2911] Sections 1 and 8.5). Otherwise, the IPP = object MUST reject the operation and return: = 'client-error-forbidden', 'client-error-not-authenticated', or = 'client- error-not-authorized' as = appropriate.

which allows Jane (assuming she = submitted the original job or is an operator or administrator) to = reprint the job, re-using (or overriding) any job-password value to hold = the job at the printer for release and printing.  But that doesn't = allow arbitrary users to later reprint that job, nor does it require = job-password to be preserved or used (the Resubmit-Job operation can = override Job Templates from the original submission...)

Perhaps I am over = thinking this, but *if* we are addressing the "protected" reprint use = case I think we should document the solution we've come up with and the = steps that a Client and Printer take in implementing it. :)

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

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Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:30:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.137.131 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:30:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Ira McDonald Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:30:32 -0400 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] IPP WG Agenda 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern (15 March 2018) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2730586619492918267==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============2730586619492918267== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000636df40567654034" --000000000000636df40567654034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 15 March 2018 at 12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Topic: IPP WG Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date 3:00 pm | Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00) | 1 hr 30 mins ------------------------------------------------------- WebEx online meeting (join first, before audio bridge) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=m0359478143 ca01e059a570ada91f3573 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". ------------------------------------------------------- Audio Bridge (join second w/ unique access code from WebEx) ------------------------------------------------------- Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239 <%28866%29%20469-3239> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300 <%28650%29%20429-3300> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570 <%28408%29%20856-9570> Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio options ("Call Me Back" or VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting. Unique attendee access code: Displayed in the WebEx meeting Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, Roll Call, and Agenda Review - Mike as minute taker? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180215.pdf -- IPP WG call on 02/15/18 (3) Status of Open Printing WG GSoC 2018 (Ira) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019511.html -- DONE - 4 January to 23 January - Mentor organization applications -- DONE - 23 January - 11 February - GSoC reviews mentor org applications -- DONE - 12 February - GSoC approves mentoring organizations -- DONE - 12 February to 12 March - Students discuss GSoC projects -- 12 to 27 March - Students apply for GSoC projects -- 14 project ideas - 30+ first cut student candidates -- Call for PWG mentor volunteers for IPP projects from Aveek Basu (4) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20180215.htm - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg-plenary- minutes-20180207.htm -- see PWG SC minutes of 02/15/18 and PWG Plenary minutes of 02/07/18 (5) Status of Welcome to Printing with IPP (Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20180207.pdf -- IPP WG edits during PWG Virtual F2F on 02/07/18 -- Schedule - TBD (6) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20180123-rev.pdf -- Interim draft - PWG Virtual F2F review on 02/08/18 -- Schedule - TBD (7) Status/Review of IPP Encrypted Jobs and Documents - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-trustnoone-20180219.pdf - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-document- encryption-february-18.pdf -- Initital draft - output of PWG Virtual F2F and IPP WG discussions -- Schedule - TBD (8) Status of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20180214-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019475.html -- Prototype draft - PWG Virtual F2F review on 02/07/18 -- Schedule - prototype in "ippserver" - Stable draft in Q2/Q3 2018 (9) Status/Review of IPP Privacy Attributes (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180215.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019499.html -- Interim draft - IPP WG review on 02/15/18 -- Schedule - TBD (10) Status of IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification 1.0 Update 3? - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180215.pdf -- Goals, ipptool and ippfind updates -- Schedule - TBD (11) Review of IPP Job Save Password (Smith) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180313.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019528.html -- Interim draft - for IPP WG review on 03/15/18 -- Schedule - TBD (12) Review of IPP Everywhere 1.1 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180209-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019501.html -- Initial draft - 02/09/18 -- Schedule - TBD (13) Next steps - IPP WG call on Thu 29 March 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- regular topics - IPP WG call on Thu 12 April 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- regular topics Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --000000000000636df40567654034 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be Thu= rsday 15 March 2018 at
12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Easter= n

NOTE: Please USE t= he *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below

-----------= --------------------------------------------
Meeting information-------------------------------------------------------
Topic: IPP WG
Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end = date
3:00 pm=C2=A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A0Eastern Standard Time (New York, GM= T-05:00)=C2=A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A01 hr 30 mins

---------------------------------= ----------------------
WebEx online meeting (join first, before audio bridge)
-----------= --------------------------------------------
1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php= ?MTID=3Dm0359478143ca01e059a570ada91f3573
2. If requested, ente= r your name and email address.
3. If a password is required, enter the m= eeting password: Printing123
4. Click "Join".

---------= ----------------------------------------------
Audio Bridge = (join second w/ unique acce= ss code from WebEx)
----------------------------------------= ---------------
Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 4= 69-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300
C= all-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570

Global toll-free call in numbers and o= ther audio options ("Call Me Back" or VoIP) are listed once you j= oin the WebEx meeting.

Unique attendee access code:=C2=A0 Displayed = in the WebEx meeting

Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, Roll Call, and Agenda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous= meetings

(3) Status of Open Printing WG GSoC= 2018 (Ira)
-- DONE - 4 January to 23 January - Men= tor organization applications
-- DONE - 23 January - 11 February - GSoC = reviews mentor org applications
-- DONE - 12 February - GSoC approves me= ntoring organizations
= -- DONE - 12 February to 12 March - Students discuss GSoC projects-- 12 to 27 March - Stude= nts apply for GSoC projects
-- 14 project ideas -= 30+ first cut student candidates
-- Call for PWG mentor volunteers for IPP projects from Av= eek Basu

(4) Status o= f AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul)

-- IPP= WG edits during=20 PWG Virtual F2F on 02/07/18
-- Schedule - TBD

<= div>(6) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication wh= itepaper (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/i= pp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20180123-rev.pdf
= --=20 Interim draft -=20 PWG Virtual F2F review on 02/08/18
-- Schedule - TBD

(7) Status/Review of IPP Encrypted Jobs and= Documents
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub= /pwg/ipp/wd/wd-trustnoone-20180219.pdf
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<= wbr>ipp/slides/ipp-document-encryption-february-18.pdf
-- Initi= tal draft - output of PWG Virtual F2F and IPP WG discussions
=
--= Schedule - TBD

(8) Status of IPP System Service = (Ira/Mike)
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/= wd/wd-ippsystem10-20180214-rev.pdf
- http://www.pwg.org/arc= hives/ipp/2018/019475.html
-- Prototype draft - PWG Virtual F2F= review on 02/07/18
-- Schedule - prototype in "ippserver" - Stable draft in Q2/Q= 3 2018

-- Interim draft - IPP WG review on 02/15/18
-- Schedule - TBD

(10) Status of IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification 1.0= Update 3?
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180215.pdf
-- = Goals, ipptool and ippfind updates
--=20 Schedule - TBD

-- Interim draft - for IPP WG review on 03/15/18
-- Schedule= - TBD

-- Initial draft - 02/09/18
-- Schedule - TBD

(13) Next steps

- = IPP W= G call on Thu 29 March 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
-- regular topics

- = IPP W= G call on Thu 12 April 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
-- regular topics

Cheers,
- Ira
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair = - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printi= ng WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-IST= O PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & P= rinter MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-= 0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434=

<= /div>
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boundary="===============0972838073797672733==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0972838073797672733== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0985AF5E-0542-41DA-BDAF-096B9131EAD3"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_0985AF5E-0542-41DA-BDAF-096B9131EAD3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3F54B843-C722-45A4-99B6-ECAC8B440204" --Apple-Mail=_3F54B843-C722-45A4-99B6-ECAC8B440204 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, The PWG will hold its May 2018 Face-to-Face Meeting on May 15-17, 2018 = in Sunnyvale, CA at the Wild Palms Hotel. The tentative agenda, = teleconferencing and venue information can be found at the meeting = information page: https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/may-2018-sunnyvale.html = =20 This page will be updated with a final agenda and document links as the = material becomes available. There is a link for a discounted hotel rate = at the bottom of that page. Please visit the May 2018 survey page PRIOR TO April 15, 2018 and = indicate whether you plan to participate: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/C5DXRWY = =20 We hope to see you there! Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ --Apple-Mail=_3F54B843-C722-45A4-99B6-ECAC8B440204 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Greetings,

The PWG will hold its = May 2018 Face-to-Face Meeting on May 15-17, 2018 in Sunnyvale, CA at the = Wild Palms Hotel. The tentative agenda, teleconferencing and venue = information can be found at the meeting information page:

https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/may-2018-sunnyvale.html<= /a> 

This page will be updated with a final agenda and document = links as the material becomes available. There is a link for a = discounted hotel rate at the bottom of that page.
Please visit the May 2018 survey page = PRIOR TO April 15, 2018 and indicate whether you plan to = participate:

= https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/C5DXRWY 

We hope to see you = there!

Cheers,
Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / = Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
    Chair, = IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/





Smith

/**
  =   Smith Kennedy
    Wireless & = Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
    Standards - = IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / = USB-IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working = Group
    HP Inc.
*/



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ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4336241206959474838==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4336241206959474838== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113e22c239b7380568039519" --001a113e22c239b7380568039519 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi everyone, I wish to work for The Linux Foundation in this year's Google Summer of Code. 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Hi everyone,


I wish to w= ork for The Linux Foundation in this year's Google Summer of Code. I am= applying for the project - Enhancements for ipptool.

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I want to know more about this project. It woul= d be great if you can help me here.


Thank you,
Lakshay Bandlish.
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Smith Kennedy and Mike Sweet have already discussed this one and will send you more details soon, hopefully. I'm forwarding your request to Aveek Basu and Till Kamppeter, who are coordinating all of the Open Printing GSoC 2018 projects. I will volunteer as one of the mentors for this project. Cheers, - Ira (co-chair of IEEE-ISTO IPP WG) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Lakshay Bandlish wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > I wish to work for The Linux Foundation in this year's Google Summer of > Code. I am applying for the project - Enhancements for ipptool. > > IPP Everywhere's self-certification program's software uses ipptool to > allow printer manufacturers to test if their printers satisfy IPP > standards. Currently, ipptool doesn't provide support for testing all > attributes and operations required by IPP Everywhere, and this project > involves writing scripts to enable ipptool to test printers for these. It > also involves writing more scripts for other ipp specifications. > > I want to know more about this project. It would be great if you can help > me here. > > > Thank you, > Lakshay Bandlish. > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > --94eb2c116f361f3a0e056803c5f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Lakshay,
Thank your very much for your interest in the GSoC ipptool enhanceme= nts project!

Smith Kennedy and Mike Sweet have already discuss= ed this one and will send you
more details soon, hopefully.
I'm forwarding your request to Aveek Basu and Till Kamppeter, w= ho are coordinating
all of the Open Printing GSoC 2018 projects.
I will volunteer as one of the mentors for this project.
Cheers,
- Ira (co-chair of IEEE-ISTO IPP WG)

<= div class=3D"gmail_extra">
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted = Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secre= tary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet= Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
= Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://si= tes.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http:/= /sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-Apr= il: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-D= ec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434


On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Lakshay Ban= dlish <lbandlish@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,


I wish to work for The Linux Foundation in this year's Google Summer= of Code. I am applying for the project - Enhancements for ipptool.

IPP Everywhere's self-certification program's sof= tware uses ipptool=C2=A0to allow printer manufacturers to test if their pri= nters satisfy IPP standards. Currently, ipptool=C2=A0doesn't provide su= pport for testing all attributes and operations required by IPP Everywhere,= and this project involves writing scripts to enable=C2=A0ipptool to test p= rinters for these. It also involves writing more scripts for other ipp=C2= =A0specifications.

I want to know more about this = project. It would be great if you can help me here.


Thank you,
Lakshay Bandlish.

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp


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boundary="===============7687806147609952839==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============7687806147609952839== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_WlRMR+v2kxxy2XSMpFb+Jw)" --Boundary_(ID_WlRMR+v2kxxy2XSMpFb+Jw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Lakshay, I've setup a Github project for the ippsample repository that covers all of the potential work: https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/projects/4 Most of the issues in the project involve writing ipptool test files, but I've also included an "ippfuzz" test generator (for fuzz-testing printers) and changes to ipptool to support running subsets of a test file. Please let me know if you have any questions! > On Mar 22, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Lakshay Bandlish wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > I wish to work for The Linux Foundation in this year's Google Summer of Code. I am applying for the project - Enhancements for ipptool. > > IPP Everywhere's self-certification program's software uses ipptool to allow printer manufacturers to test if their printers satisfy IPP standards. Currently, ipptool doesn't provide support for testing all attributes and operations required by IPP Everywhere, and this project involves writing scripts to enable ipptool to test printers for these. It also involves writing more scripts for other ipp specifications. > > I want to know more about this project. It would be great if you can help me here. > > > Thank you, > Lakshay Bandlish. > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_WlRMR+v2kxxy2XSMpFb+Jw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi = Lakshay,

I've setup = a Github project for the ippsample repository that covers all of the = potential work:

    https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/projects/4

Most of the issues in = the project involve writing ipptool test files, but I've also included = an "ippfuzz" test generator (for fuzz-testing printers) and changes to = ipptool to support running subsets of a test file.

Please let me know if = you have any questions!


On Mar 22, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Lakshay Bandlish <lbandlish@gmail.com>= wrote:

Hi everyone,


I = wish to work for The Linux Foundation in this year's Google Summer of = Code. I am applying for the project - Enhancements for = ipptool.

IPP = Everywhere's self-certification program's software uses ipptool to = allow printer manufacturers to test if their printers satisfy IPP = standards. Currently, ipptool doesn't provide support for testing = all attributes and operations required by IPP Everywhere, and this = project involves writing scripts to enable ipptool to test printers = for these. It also involves writing more scripts for other = ipp specifications.

I want to know more about this project. It would be great if = you can help me here.


Thank you,
Lakshay Bandlish.
_______________________________________________
ipp = mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" FYI: The IESG has approved the following document: - 'The Transport Layer Security (TLS) Protocol Version 1.3' (draft-ietf-tls-tls13-28.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Transport Layer Security Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Kathleen Moriarty and Eric Rescorla. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-tls13/ Technical Summary This document specifies version 1.3 of the Transport Layer Security (TLS) protocol. TLS allows client/server applications to communicate over the Internet in a way that is designed to prevent eavesdropping, tampering, and message forgery. Working Group Summary The document is the work product of the members of the TLS WG. There is strong consensus in the working group for this document. The area that was most controversial was around the inclusion of a 0-RTT mode that has different security properties than the rest of TLS. s1.3 lists the major differences from TLS1.2, as agreed by the contributors; we do not think that the RFC needs to list the changes that occurred between each draft. The draft has had 3 WGLCs to address various issues and the chairs assessment was fair in each of these discussions. At this point there are no known outstanding issue. While I personally do not agree with inclusion of 0-RTT because there are bound to be successful attacks against the mitigations in the future, I do agree with the chair's assessment of the WG consensus and am pleased with the additional text on mitigating the associated risks with 0-RTT. Document Quality There are over 10 interoperable implementations of the protocol from different sources written in different languages. The major web browser vendors and TLS libraries vendors have draft implementations or have indicated they will support the protocol in the future. In addition to having extensive review in the TLS working group, the protocol has received unprecedented security review by the academic community. Several TRON (TLS Ready or Not) conferences were held with academic community to give them a chance to present their findings for TLS. This has resulted in improvements to the protocol. There was also much consideration and discussion around any contentious points, resolved through polls and working group last calls. Please note that ID-nits complains about the obsoleted/ updated RFCs not being listed in the abstract. This is intentional because the abstract is now a concise and comprehensive overview and is free form citations, as per RFC7322. Personnel The Document Shepherd is Sean Turner. The responsible AD is Kathleen Moriarty. The IANA Expert(s) for the registries in this document are Yoav Nir , Rich Salz , and Nick Sullivan . IANA Note This document requests the creation of the TLS SignatureScheme Registry with values assigned via Specification Required [RFC8126]. This document requests the reference for several registries be updated to point to this document. The registries include: - TLS Cipher Suite Registry, updated via via Specification Required [RFC8126] - TLS ContentType Registry, future values allocated via Standards Action [RFC8126] - TLS Alert Registry, future values allocated via Standards Action [RFC8126] - TLS HandshakeType Registry, future values allocated via Standards Action [RFC8126] - TLS ExtensionType Registry, the policy is changed in ietf-tls-iana-registry-updates and this will be reflected in version 25 of the draft RFC Editor Note Please ensure a reference is added prior to final publication for the text added in section E.6. PSK Identity Exposure of draft-ietf-tls-tls13 _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Mar 28 10:06:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E311243F6 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 10:06:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=apple.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9PojOvBpAspO for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted an update of my IPP Privacy Attributes registration to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180328.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180328.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180328-rev.pdf This draft reflects our discussions at the March 15 IPP WG concall and includes an informative reference to the official GDPR regulations in multiple languages... All of these attributes have been prototyped in ippserver, with the corresponding "xxx-scope" and "xxx-attributes" values being reported and enforced by the server. (I have not yet added the new logging requirements, but those should be minimal changes to what already exists... Tracking with Issue #125) _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Mar 28 13:28:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E958D12DA4B for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 13:28:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.871 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.871 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.428, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Wed, 28 Mar 2018 13:28:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.229.5 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Ira McDonald Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:28:12 -0400 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] IPP WG Agenda 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern (29 March 2018) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0028797600626324265==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0028797600626324265== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d1fdfe05687ed900" --000000000000d1fdfe05687ed900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 29 March 2018 at 12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Topic: IPP WG Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date 3:00 pm | Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00) | 1 hr 30 mins ------------------------------------------------------- WebEx online meeting (join first, before audio bridge) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm0359478143 ca01e059a570ada91f3573 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". ------------------------------------------------------- Audio Bridge (join second w/ unique access code from WebEx) ------------------------------------------------------- Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239 <%28866%29%20469-3239= > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300 <%28650%29%20429-3300> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570 <%28408%29%20856-9570> Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio options ("Call Me Back" or VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting. Unique attendee access code: Displayed in the WebEx meeting Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, Roll Call, and Agenda Review - Mike as minute taker? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180315.pdf -- IPP WG call on 03/15/18 (3) Status of Open Printing WG GSoC 2018 (Ira) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019511.html -- DONE - 4 January to 23 January - Mentor organization applications -- DONE - 23 January - 11 February - GSoC reviews mentor org applications -- DONE - 12 February - GSoC approves mentoring organizations -- DONE - 12 February to 12 March - Students discuss GSoC projects -- DONE - 12 to 27 March - Students apply for GSoC projects - 23 April - GSoC approves projects and Students - 14 May - GSoC coding begins (4) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20180315.htm -- see PWG SC minutes of 03/15/18 (5) Status of Welcome to Printing with IPP (Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20180207.pdf =E2=81=83 https://github.com/istopwg/pwg-books -- IPP WG edits during PWG Virtual F2F on 02/07/18 -- New working title: "How to Print Using the Internet Printing Protocol" -- Current HTML draft available in Github repository -- Schedule - TBD (6) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20180123-rev.pdf -- Interim draft - PWG Virtual F2F review on 02/08/18 -- Schedule - TBD (7) Status/Review of IPP Encrypted Jobs and Documents - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-trustnoone-20180219.pdf - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-document-encrypti on-february-18.pdf -- Initital draft - output of PWG Virtual F2F and IPP WG discussions -- Schedule - TBD (8) Status of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20180214-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019475.html - https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/projects/1 -- Prototype draft - PWG Virtual F2F review on 02/07/18 -- Prototyping tasks being tracked as a Github project -- Schedule - prototype in "ippserver" - Stable draft in Q2/Q3 2018 (9) Status/Review of IPP Privacy Attributes (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180328-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019499.html -- Interim draft - IPP WG review on 03/15/18 -- Schedule - TBD (10) Status of IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification 1.0 Update 3? - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180215.pdf -- Goals, ipptool and ippfind updates -- Schedule - TBD (11) Status of IPP Job Save Password (Smith) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180313.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019528.html -- Interim draft - IPP WG review on 03/15/18 -- Schedule - TBD (12) Review of IPP Everywhere 1.1 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180209-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019501.html -- Initial draft - 02/09/18 -- Schedule - TBD (13) Next steps - IPP WG call on Thu 12 April 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- regular topics - IPP WG call on Thu 26 April 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- regular topics Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --000000000000d1fdfe05687ed900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Our next IPP<= /span> WG call will be Thursday 29 March 2018 at
12:00-1:30pm US P= acific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern

NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below
<= /span>

-------------------------------------------------= ------
Meeting information
-------------------------------------= ------------------
Topic: IPP <= span class=3D"gmail-m_-7158819093852740809gmail-m_-5208763249917800182gmail= -m_8332558219262867178gmail-m_-435562576303993954gmail-il">WG
= Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date<= br>3:00 pm=C2=A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A0Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:= 00)=C2=A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A01 hr 30 mins

---------------= ----------------------------------------
WebEx online meeting (join first, before audio bridge= )
-------------------------------------------------------1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.c= om/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm0359478143ca01e059a570ada91f35732. If requested, enter your name and email address.
3. If a password i= s required, enter the meeting password: Printing123
4. Click "Join&= quot;.

-------------------------------------------------------<= /div>
Audio Bridge (joi= n second w/ unique access code from WebEx)
----------------------= ---------------------------------
Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, Ro= ll Call, and Agenda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings

(3) Status of Open Printing WG GSo= C 2018 (Ira)
-- DONE - 4 January to 23 January - Me= ntor organization applications
-- DONE - 23 January - 11 February - GSoC= reviews mentor org applications
-- DONE - 12 February - GSoC approves m= entoring organizations
-- DONE - 12 February to 12 March - Students discuss GSoC projects<= br>-- DONE - 12 to 27 Mar= ch - Students apply for GSoC projects
- 23 April - GSo= C approves projects and Students
- 14 May - GSoC coding begins
=

(4) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (= Paul)
-- see PWG SC= minutes of=20 03/15/18

(5) Status of Welcome to Printing wit= h IPP (M= ike)
-- IPP WG edits during=20 PWG Virtual F2F on 02/07/18
-- New working title: "How to Print Usi= ng the Internet Printing Protocol"
-- Current HTML draft available = in Github repository
-- Schedule - TBD

(6)= Status of IPP HTTP Authentication = whitepaper (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg= /ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20180123-rev.pdf
--=20 Interim draft -=20 PWG Virtual F2F review on 02/08/18
-- Schedule - TBD

(7) Status/Review of IPP Encrypted Jobs and= Documents
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub= /pwg/ipp/wd/wd-trustnoone-20180219.pdf
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/i= pp/slides/ipp-document-encryption-february-18.pdf
-- Initi= tal draft - output of PWG Virtual F2F and IPP WG discussions
=
-- Schedule - TBD
=

(8) Status of IPP System= Service (Ira/Mike)
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/= ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20180214-rev.pdf
- http://www.pw= g.org/archives/ipp/2018/019475.html
- https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/pro= jects/1
-- Prototype draft - PWG Virtual F2F review on 02/07/18
-- Prototyping tasks being tracked as a Github project
-- Schedule -= prototype in "ippserver" - Stable draft in Q2/Q3 2018

-- Interim draft - IPP WG review on 03/15/18
-- Schedule - TBD

(10) Status of IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification 1.0= Update 3?
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp= /minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180215.pdf
-- = Goals, ipptool and ippfind updates
--=20 Schedule - TBD

-- Interim draft - IPP = WG review on 03/15/18
-- Schedule - TBD

(12) Review of IPP Everywhere 1.1 (Mike)
- ht= tps://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180209-rev.pdf=
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019501.html
-- Initial draft - 02/09/18
-- Schedule - TBD

(13) Next steps

=
- IPP WG call on Thu 12 April 2018 at = 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
-- regular topics

- IPP WG call on Thu 26 April 2018 at = 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
-- regular topics

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair = - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printi= ng WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-IST= O PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & P= rinter MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-= 0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434=

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted an updated draft of the IPP Encrypted Jobs and Documents registration to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrustnoone10-20180328.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrustnoone10-20180328.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrustnoone10-20180328-rev.pdf I did a bunch of updates - template changes, references, etc. - as well as adding S/MIME and proper "introduction", "model", and "additional semantics" sections... 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Thu, 29 Mar 2018 20:40:02 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Sweet , PWG IPP WG Reflector From: William Wagner Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:40:02 -0400 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: References: X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfCyOuBJ2HOFgK+M7B0DBlBNR+v51EqTDel3ETtKJrBp0nCma7U2GU2FypRBSUpocF73bmvWXvkXvCDp17jyV5Kk0vqa/yqpANm2dTy+CMnC6aNTNls2l 6onyDMXQmwbmDgXqQ1ZpmOR5ZXYcd4O5ozNa+27+GcJFZPlvAIo4S0hT+Cuf0iQy330ni84xG12ZjvME7dOJOodpSy3mA7pC+FY= Message-Id: <20180329204006.A56574DC5@www.pwg.org> Subject: Re: [IPP] Updated IPP Privacy Attributes registration posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6580898979139502891==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6580898979139502891== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_73D83BA9-BE72-4E9B-8565-EC451E6BCDD2_" --_73D83BA9-BE72-4E9B-8565-EC451E6BCDD2_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Michael, In checking common usage, I would suggest the term =E2=80=98political regio= ns=E2=80=99 in place of =E2=80=98regions=E2=80=99 to replace =E2=80=98count= ries=E2=80=99 in the Introduction.=20 Thanks, Bill Wagner Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Michael Sweet Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 1:06 PM To: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: [IPP] Updated IPP Privacy Attributes registration posted All, I have posted an update of my IPP Privacy Attributes registration to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180328.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180328.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180328-rev.pdf This draft reflects our discussions at the March 15 IPP WG concall and incl= udes an informative reference to the official GDPR regulations in multiple = languages... All of these attributes have been prototyped in ippserver, with the corresp= onding "xxx-scope" and "xxx-attributes" values being reported and enforced = by the server. (I have not yet added the new logging requirements, but those should be min= imal changes to what already exists... Tracking with Issue #125) _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --_73D83BA9-BE72-4E9B-8565-EC451E6BCDD2_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

Michael,

In = checking common usage, I would suggest the term =E2=80=98political regions= =E2=80=99 in place of =E2=80=98regions=E2=80=99 to replace =E2=80=98countri= es=E2=80=99 in the Introduction.

Thanks, Bill Wagn= er

 

Sent f= rom Mail f= or Windows 10

 

From: Michael Sweet
S= ent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 1:06 PM
To: PWG IPP WG Reflector
Subject: [IPP] Updated IPP = Privacy Attributes registration posted

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All,

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I have posted an update of my IPP Privacy A= ttributes registration to:

 

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp= privacy10-20180328.docx

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 https://ftp= .pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180328.pdf

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180= 328-rev.pdf

 

This draft reflects our discussions at the March 15 IPP WG concall and i= ncludes an informative reference to the official GDPR regulations in multip= le languages...

 

All of these attributes have been prototyped in ippserver, with the = corresponding "xxx-scope" and "xxx-attributes" values b= eing reported and enforced by the server.

(I have n= ot yet added the new logging requirements, but those should be minimal chan= ges to what already exists...=C2=A0 Tracking with Issue #125)

 

____________________= _____________________________________

Michael Sweet= , Senior Printing System Engineer

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ipp mailing list

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https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

 

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, The following media size names were requested by Canon and approved by the IPP workgroup in July of 2014 but never added to the IANA IPP Registry. The following special implementation guidance applies: - Printers SHOULD report either "iso_id-1_53.98x85.6mm" or "om_card_54x86mm" in the "media-ready" or "media-supported" Printer attributes, but not both, because Clients may be unable to correctly support two media sizes with effectively the same dimensions. Attributes (attribute syntax) Keyword Attribute Value Reference ----------------------- --------- media (type2 keyword | name(MAX)) [RFC8011] iso_id-1_53.98x85.6mm [CANON20180329] iso_id-3_88x125mm [CANON20180329] oe_photo-l_3.5x5in [CANON20180329] om_card_54x86mm [CANON20180329] om_dsc-photo_89x119mm [CANON20180329] _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Mar 29 13:42:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00B512D946 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 13:42:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.785 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.785 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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boundary="===============5076649193456413981==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5076649193456413981== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_G+vXayIyxz1W8POuFHRorw)" --Boundary_(ID_G+vXayIyxz1W8POuFHRorw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Bill, Sounds good to me! > On Mar 29, 2018, at 4:40 PM, William Wagner = wrote: >=20 > Michael, > In checking common usage, I would suggest the term =E2=80=98political = regions=E2=80=99 in place of =E2=80=98regions=E2=80=99 to replace = =E2=80=98countries=E2=80=99 in the Introduction. > Thanks, Bill Wagner > =20 > Sent from Mail for = Windows 10 > =20 > From: Michael Sweet > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 1:06 PM > To: PWG IPP WG Reflector > Subject: [IPP] Updated IPP Privacy Attributes registration posted > =20 > All, > =20 > I have posted an update of my IPP Privacy Attributes registration to: > =20 > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180328.docx > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180328.pdf > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180328-rev.pdf > =20 > This draft reflects our discussions at the March 15 IPP WG concall and = includes an informative reference to the official GDPR regulations in = multiple languages... > =20 > All of these attributes have been prototyped in ippserver, with the = corresponding "xxx-scope" and "xxx-attributes" values being reported and = enforced by the server. > (I have not yet added the new logging requirements, but those should = be minimal changes to what already exists... Tracking with Issue #125) > =20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > =20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_G+vXayIyxz1W8POuFHRorw) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Bill,

Sounds good to me!

On Mar = 29, 2018, at 4:40 PM, William Wagner <wamwagner@comcast.net> wrote:

Michael,
In = checking common usage, I would suggest the term =E2=80=98political = regions=E2=80=99 in place of =E2=80=98regions=E2=80=99 to replace = =E2=80=98countries=E2=80=99 in the Introduction.
Thanks, Bill Wagner
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Michael Sweet
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, = 2018 1:06 PM
To: PWG IPP WG Reflector
Subject: [IPP] Updated IPP = Privacy Attributes registration posted
 
All,
 
I have = posted an update of my IPP Privacy Attributes registration to:
 
 
This = draft reflects our discussions at the March 15 IPP WG concall and = includes an informative reference to the official GDPR regulations in = multiple languages...
 
All of = these attributes have been prototyped in ippserver, with the = corresponding "xxx-scope" and "xxx-attributes" values being reported and = enforced by the server.
(I have = not yet added the new logging requirements, but those should be minimal = changes to what already exists...  Tracking with Issue = #125)
 
_________________________________________________________
=
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System = Engineer
 
_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp
<= /blockquote>

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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