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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6062139567223436699==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6062139567223436699== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_145B5247-61D9-4D72-A051-92C612BEA989"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_145B5247-61D9-4D72-A051-92C612BEA989 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, Why is it that JPEG JFIF document format support is mandatory for all = IPP Everywhere printers? We have some monochrome products that support = PWG Raster, but don't support JPEG JFIF. That makes it impossible for us = to certify these products as IPP Everywhere, since in IPP Everywhere = JPEG support is mandatory (5100.14 section 6 page 45). I propose to the IPP WG that it should consider softening the JPEG JFIF = requirement in 5100.14 for monochrome printers. I am fine with it = remaining required for color printers. Thoughts? Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ --Apple-Mail=_145B5247-61D9-4D72-A051-92C612BEA989 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEX4TM/E2Pr7lTZzy2qskbKLDW1N0FAlrCVhcACgkQqskbKLDW 1N0fDw//V76U9ywb4rHRCqqcD2xTYifm0jkJ4OLLO8DP/bjeDaOvXB49NdWQ91bX 4ZfKXYMMaZKZANtOwNINQaeedGA/gIj7xsJKFz+2iOnvj7xLY/EFy60Jk5gFBxwL cQwL0RoymHMbF2cpOnh49ooTyOGiCSW3AkzsrHd80S2+kU9T85ijBZso6QlU4vYn LLPdNh4KK4SSwzsPqkF9b85W/0NTCCor8oDKQpn8wdrHc7CMg7qN+MJ9DzX7VUCJ uLhPVXITkDKyE361bzNItcYw26Cq35tfOAwp9pnUb+HWNCU7DdO/eAzv/A9llhCM zVzBAprepeNCdZ9OmWYkF73JVz2DZpK9Z9g8CSc/GvCeF+kbHb59nwFbHHtsj2m8 fXHBA0UeUH2gQ+ayyBrszQPDzRa49ht1k7xeGmYhP4OZzVQOfZUzDkeGuS4l/V+N M/xU9O6APkkcBBpNu+HpWPNxw65cr5yzXHH4GBODLUo8snWwTj5HjHbYZvM657Zu iYeZyFM615pEow+YVb8MTCRatvhKGCHf2DY/NOorMwiIUTcnOBg3elVtKIeejLoG SM7s7821sF24Uny6wpxIwaMHlwoMiUV5ip2NEtUSy39ACrfBk6AbrC5z1WxT/F0r 8hGfkL/OArrBvexzY+qm3a0iJXa5ceQsadyxbFezas3PSnR+PdQ= =P1GS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_145B5247-61D9-4D72-A051-92C612BEA989-- --===============6062139567223436699== Content-Type: text/plain; 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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Smith, This sounds OK to me, as JPEG printing is primarily for photos - most B&W-only printers are not photo printers (and those that are will likely support JPEG...) >From a client-perspective, all CUPS-based implementations will handle this just fine and convert a local JPEG to PWG Raster as needed. > On Apr 2, 2018, at 12:11 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > > Hello, > > Why is it that JPEG JFIF document format support is mandatory for all IPP Everywhere printers? We have some monochrome products that support PWG Raster, but don't support JPEG JFIF. That makes it impossible for us to certify these products as IPP Everywhere, since in IPP Everywhere JPEG support is mandatory (5100.14 section 6 page 45). > > I propose to the IPP WG that it should consider softening the JPEG JFIF requirement in 5100.14 for monochrome printers. I am fine with it remaining required for color printers. > > Thoughts? > > Cheers, > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Apr 2 13:01:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78EA612D87E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 13:01:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.036 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.036 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hqCPKFTdeSjO for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 13:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD9B12706D for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 13:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id BF74EBEB7; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 20:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5F74DC5; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 20:01:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id E2E448ADC; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 20:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pl0-x232.google.com (mail-pl0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::232]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 717983D66 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 20:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pl0-x232.google.com with SMTP id bj1-v6so3106274plb.8 for ; Mon, 02 Apr 2018 13:01:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=euwc95tc59W+zQEMKwL4Iq2fxe5f0DcHHXrYVrCUCEo=; b=YN80qE0YZSFBz+KiD6HsATCF6c+WgTrsw8u70JdOOdkYngYzRwZXvChJk87C1FfaCu Ty3GsvVhiTKEoAvrX8BWDwuGFokrbl9ucFMR8cAj5dUjfDeNMKPG+21CObZHgR5VOQto H/PGOunVk2UJI6mmSUx/wzPTzfmEqJeojc5B8gAUEsbQozXseLYqTIHkjQ+HQwcEaxiO zCr2gOIFg6iVzU4MAV6low9zizMU5g/zsR+DFlcD4fEeVr1Ozpb6vtbsIvQI7GIlu/5a dlsu9Mv9EmEhdbNCe0zQymtkBhecKBYYDlgy6uKSVy1t9T5GkPIA9+p2QjUh9uiViI68 bGwg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=euwc95tc59W+zQEMKwL4Iq2fxe5f0DcHHXrYVrCUCEo=; b=ZUbvWP4pPOilYLdiCMQAw76IXoCZI90awgKgI9ACci5hROcIf9OFoan6bBsu2NXlAn Z+N4Zfu4tNWAUKMNXKJoS/eFv9g/SB9xJIq/Zo7sRx+lkxV2rkBaV573TMnuy/1E3Pku bOdaX4Pjo1dTmy2w25q+9GXxvNdn6e5N0VrFVsYXquYa672ZNhGnufRk514927M0jFTy 8gSpKNNacsVq6Ngvp5VPXcjYxfb/hSEVr4KpXInzd7BKnV5DHC6RVhvco1BzU8Npo0Jl Dm7tQzUCSq5qO5Nh3fdwTpbiwQRA2qjE/uJFrUsYrz7q8RBQC6A00NvBILIaH7x4fe0G cdsw== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7HJPuCTzWKNBuJj2I4O6ZyvEnq3qGohx3ToXT/WNh1fITYT+9ip Eh8MaefCpGS24KZP79Ex6pOm5jK6VVao+O0oviA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx48qGQUj7txKnBjLghS7//nb9HaWae/BvmS71CPm61Vt+MVU/aKKCTR6Wga9VWPbM7r6BQNxmYIbaQh23c4l7aw= X-Received: by 10.101.72.9 with SMTP id h9mr7126281pgs.88.1522699271933; Mon, 02 Apr 2018 13:01:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.229.5 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 13:00:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1587B229-A1FE-4A57-8941-71AFF539515D@apple.com> References: <61943F0B-5D8F-4168-AD6C-13F4411C9C3F@hp.com> <1587B229-A1FE-4A57-8941-71AFF539515D@apple.com> From: Ira McDonald Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 16:00:51 -0400 Message-ID: To: Michael Sweet , Ira McDonald Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] Why is JPEG JFIF document format support required for monochrome IPP Everywhere printers? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5032003532136766389==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5032003532136766389== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="089e08266ef03413490568e30d6a" --089e08266ef03413490568e30d6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I agree w/ removing JPEG for monochrome printer conformance. Another fix for IPP Everywhere/1.1. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Smith, > > This sounds OK to me, as JPEG printing is primarily for photos - most > B&W-only printers are not photo printers (and those that are will likely > support JPEG...) > > From a client-perspective, all CUPS-based implementations will handle this > just fine and convert a local JPEG to PWG Raster as needed. > > > > On Apr 2, 2018, at 12:11 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards > Architec) wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Why is it that JPEG JFIF document format support is mandatory for all > IPP Everywhere printers? We have some monochrome products that support PWG > Raster, but don't support JPEG JFIF. That makes it impossible for us to > certify these products as IPP Everywhere, since in IPP Everywhere JPEG > support is mandatory (5100.14 section 6 page 45). > > > > I propose to the IPP WG that it should consider softening the JPEG JFIF > requirement in 5100.14 for monochrome printers. I am fine with it remaining > required for color printers. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Smith > > > > /** > > Smith Kennedy > > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC > Forum / USB-IF > > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > > HP Inc. > > */ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipp mailing list > > ipp@pwg.org > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > --089e08266ef03413490568e30d6a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I agree w/ removing J= PEG for monochrome printer conformance.

Another fix for IPP Ev= erywhere/1.1.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira M= cDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility = Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IE= EE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing= Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof= Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google= .com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.goo= gle.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
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On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Michael Swee= t <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Smith,

This sounds OK to me, as JPEG printing is primarily for photos - most B&= ;W-only printers are not photo printers (and those that are will likely sup= port JPEG...)

>From a client-perspective, all CUPS-based implementations will handle this = just fine and convert a local JPEG to PWG Raster as needed.


> On Apr 2, 2018, at 12:11 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com<= /a>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Why is it that JPEG JFIF document format support is mandatory for all = IPP Everywhere printers? We have some monochrome products that support PWG = Raster, but don't support JPEG JFIF. That makes it impossible for us to= certify these products as IPP Everywhere, since in IPP Everywhere JPEG sup= port is mandatory (5100.14 section 6 page 45).
>
> I propose to the IPP WG that it should consider softening the JPEG JFI= F requirement in 5100.14 for monochrome printers. I am fine with it remaini= ng required for color printers.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Smith
>
> /**
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Allianc= e / NFC Forum / USB-IF
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 HP Inc.
> */
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ipp mailing list
> ipp@pwg.org
> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

_______________________________________________
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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted a stable draft of the IPP Privacy Attributes v1.0 (PRIVACY) registration document to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180403.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180403.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180403-rev.pdf A WG last call announcement will soon follow... _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Apr 3 12:12:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332D412D7FC for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:12:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, This message initiates an IPP workgroup last call of the IPP Privacy Attributes v1.0 (PRIVACY) registration document, which can be found here: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180403.pdf This registration defines attributes for specifying the privacy policies of Document, Job, Printer, and Subscription objects. The "ippsample" project contains a prototype implementation of these attributes: https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample Please review this document and respond to the IPP mailing list (reply-all to this message is fine) with any feedback you have for the proposed registration. This last call ends on April 12, 2018 (the next IPP workgroup conference call). _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Apr 3 14:25:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AFD12D87A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:25:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.784 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.784 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted an updated interim draft of the IPP Everywhere v1.1 specification to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403-rev.pdf The only change since the last draft is to make JPEG conditionally required for color printers. (previously it was required for all printers) _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Apr 3 22:02:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E281200FC for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2018 22:02:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.783 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.783 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=hp.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nBFH97Z7o3D6 for ; 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boundary="===============3063874316037081815==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3063874316037081815== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E4659DCC-7BDE-4C39-9612-948458A474B3"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_E4659DCC-7BDE-4C39-9612-948458A474B3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, I just posted an updated interim draft of IPP Job Reprint Password. It = is here: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippreprintpwd-20180404.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippreprintpwd-20180404.odt https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippreprintpwd-20180404-rev.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippreprintpwd-20180404-rev.odt Changes include: - Renamed the "job-save-accesses" attribute to now be = "job-reprint-accesses". We can refactor it to be "job-reprint-password" = and specify a set of supporting attributes that clone the "job-password" = suite of attributes, but I thought I'd start with this - Removed "access-x509-certificate" - Turned the document into an IPP Registration - Clarified what operations shall and shall not include the = "job-reprint-accesses" operation attribute Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ --Apple-Mail=_E4659DCC-7BDE-4C39-9612-948458A474B3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEX4TM/E2Pr7lTZzy2qskbKLDW1N0FAlrEXEgACgkQqskbKLDW 1N1yCQ/+NLK/edsn4wJnDKQ25k0TIggfkQxI6nzvvn7jw8JZR6Xw7DG12Y/acWjT cWZ8yUwCpPPr1VvxqwaMd41jtqKhQbewJ+MyQyGhAkXHda3nMmbkdn1vpZoV+c3w AF85n96VzqrtX1caSfCCMm1EEUdZUd6fbW2i6TrGkgR54PQlcsIkpkbZKZkrf82O TAdUc96IhPdyXZ3ZsVpcEYABL3RpXLLkgwQWVWVINC+qS6159yDPRl22Yx3/8lUc +DJ+NO6iwL0BFV5gXVjuDYrP0yqGwiPOvR9x2a+O3SNYbGXybsp3/52iAN1syyRP St8XhwMf3fXd8pvwz7FCBhPkikO1ZtWTHtIgilFEuhgla5hOfy3DVtQDiudIoGbs bQyfF5iYSyuCpGr/wqp6IdDlwsDlbx1SXDaTKmESfmJrmsezBG267/dy0EOW1X5x vIyR7oS3AovDUlj1dqC3hRb2suW6/EAer1W7FoNvD/fTBMRga1WkKb6tKEHlYI42 WiSXr0LkvRzzSQvcUDxCcFOm2OBmyz9NvR6iYECp0HMHKTivPgwidfeDTXyLs2bG cGumvPH9ZO24l2Re7MsG+TkbDSxYtRyHnhNzlYowtowtbGQGHOKlhImU5nb59pxF +8KSz0Zp+m4Bpmyc958Z+b2gzPmOadFrkufF9NJSBsZlmnCPWAU= =n3hG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_E4659DCC-7BDE-4C39-9612-948458A474B3-- --===============3063874316037081815== Content-Type: text/plain; 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boundary="===============4113137695896455878==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4113137695896455878== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E11760D0-F11F-40F5-A6F0-C333186B1564"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_E11760D0-F11F-40F5-A6F0-C333186B1564 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Mike, Reviewing wd-ippeve11-20180403.pdf - line numbers are from that = document. Line 1423 / 1424 say: "Now recommend using a resource path of /ipp/print = or /ipp/print/name in Printer URIs" but I'm not finding any such = recommendation. The only mention of "/ipp/print" in this revision seems = to be in the examples showing absolute vs. relative URIs on line = 1001-1002. I want to make sure that that is recommended in this IPP = Everywhere 1.1 update. Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ > On Apr 3, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > All, >=20 > I have posted an updated interim draft of the IPP Everywhere v1.1 = specification to: >=20 > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403.docx > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403.pdf > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403-rev.pdf >=20 > The only change since the last draft is to make JPEG conditionally = required for color printers. > (previously it was required for all printers) >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --Apple-Mail=_E11760D0-F11F-40F5-A6F0-C333186B1564 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; 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boundary="===============1864387774035287104==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1864387774035287104== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8vLeokaMPYbjVZjeU5dYLw)" --Boundary_(ID_8vLeokaMPYbjVZjeU5dYLw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Smith, The recommendation is in section 5.4.1 on lines 887-889: The REQUIRED "printer-uri-supported" Printer attribute provides 'ipp' and 'ipps' URIs that can be used to access the Printer. Printers SHOULD advertise URIs with a resource path of the form "/ipp/print" or "/ipp/print/queuename". > On Apr 4, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > Reviewing wd-ippeve11-20180403.pdf - line numbers are from that document. > > Line 1423 / 1424 say: "Now recommend using a resource path of /ipp/print or /ipp/print/name in Printer URIs" but I'm not finding any such recommendation. The only mention of "/ipp/print" in this revision seems to be in the examples showing absolute vs. relative URIs on line 1001-1002. I want to make sure that that is recommended in this IPP Everywhere 1.1 update. > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > >> On Apr 3, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >> >> All, >> >> I have posted an updated interim draft of the IPP Everywhere v1.1 specification to: >> >> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403.docx >> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403.pdf >> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403-rev.pdf >> >> The only change since the last draft is to make JPEG conditionally required for color printers. >> (previously it was required for all printers) >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_8vLeokaMPYbjVZjeU5dYLw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Smith,

The = recommendation is in section 5.4.1 on lines 887-889:

The REQUIRED = "printer-uri-supported" Printer attribute provides 'ipp' and 'ipps' URIs = that can be used to access the Printer. Printers SHOULD = advertise URIs with a resource path of the form "/ipp/print" = or "/ipp/print/queuename".


On Apr 4, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & = Standards Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Hi = Mike,

Reviewing wd-ippeve11-20180403.pdf - = line numbers are from that document.

Line = 1423 / 1424 say: "Now recommend using a resource path of /ipp/print or = /ipp/print/name in Printer URIs" but I'm not finding any such = recommendation. The only mention of "/ipp/print" in this revision seems = to be in the examples showing absolute vs. relative URIs on line = 1001-1002. I want to make sure that that is recommended in this IPP = Everywhere 1.1 update.

Smith

/**
   Smith = Kennedy
   Wireless & Standards = Architect - IPG-PPS
   Standards - IEEE = ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
   Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
   HP Inc.
*/



On Apr 3, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:

All,

I = have posted an updated interim draft of the IPP Everywhere v1.1 = specification to:

https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403.docx
= https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403.pdf
= https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403-rev.pdf

The only change since the last draft is to = make JPEG conditionally required for color printers.
(previously it was required for all printers)
_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp


_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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boundary="===============1627287752704877458==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1627287752704877458== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_44FB526F-7650-4BE9-8831-97F66EB99CD0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_44FB526F-7650-4BE9-8831-97F66EB99CD0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_83BA68C8-1744-4248-9E22-FAC66E5DE42C" --Apple-Mail=_83BA68C8-1744-4248-9E22-FAC66E5DE42C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Indeed it is! (I was using the search function in Apple Preview to look = for "/ipp/print" (including double-quotes) and it failed to find that = instance.) Smith > On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > Smith, >=20 > The recommendation is in section 5.4.1 on lines 887-889: >=20 > The REQUIRED "printer-uri-supported" Printer attribute provides 'ipp' = and 'ipps' URIs that can be used to access the Printer. Printers SHOULD = advertise URIs with a resource path of the form "/ipp/print" or = "/ipp/print/queuename". >=20 >=20 >> On Apr 4, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Mike, >>=20 >> Reviewing wd-ippeve11-20180403.pdf - line numbers are from that = document. >>=20 >> Line 1423 / 1424 say: "Now recommend using a resource path of = /ipp/print or /ipp/print/name in Printer URIs" but I'm not finding any = such recommendation. The only mention of "/ipp/print" in this revision = seems to be in the examples showing absolute vs. relative URIs on line = 1001-1002. I want to make sure that that is recommended in this IPP = Everywhere 1.1 update. >>=20 >> Smith >>=20 >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS >> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF >> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >> HP Inc. >> */ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Apr 3, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Michael Sweet > wrote: >>>=20 >>> All, >>>=20 >>> I have posted an updated interim draft of the IPP Everywhere v1.1 = specification to: >>>=20 >>> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403.docx = >>> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403.pdf >>> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403-rev.pdf >>>=20 >>> The only change since the last draft is to make JPEG conditionally = required for color printers. >>> (previously it was required for all printers) >>>=20 >>> _________________________________________________________ >>> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ipp mailing list >>> ipp@pwg.org >>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >>=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Apple-Mail=_83BA68C8-1744-4248-9E22-FAC66E5DE42C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Indeed it is! (I was using the search function in Apple = Preview to look for "/ipp/print" (including double-quotes) and it failed = to find that instance.)

Smith



On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:

Smith,

The recommendation = is in section 5.4.1 on lines 887-889:

The REQUIRED = "printer-uri-supported" Printer attribute provides 'ipp' and 'ipps' URIs = that can be used to access the Printer. Printers SHOULD = advertise URIs with a resource path of the form "/ipp/print" = or "/ipp/print/queuename".


On Apr 4, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Kennedy, Smith = (Wireless & Standards Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Hi = Mike,

Reviewing wd-ippeve11-20180403.pdf - = line numbers are from that document.

Line = 1423 / 1424 say: "Now recommend using a resource path of /ipp/print or = /ipp/print/name in Printer URIs" but I'm not finding any such = recommendation. The only mention of "/ipp/print" in this revision seems = to be in the examples showing absolute vs. relative URIs on line = 1001-1002. I want to make sure that that is recommended in this IPP = Everywhere 1.1 update.

Smith

/**
   Smith = Kennedy
   Wireless & Standards = Architect - IPG-PPS
   Standards - IEEE = ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
   Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
   HP Inc.
*/



On Apr 3, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:

All,

I = have posted an updated interim draft of the IPP Everywhere v1.1 = specification to:

https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403.docx
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403.pdf=
= https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403-rev.pdf

The only change since the last draft is to = make JPEG conditionally required for color printers.
(previously it was required for all printers)
_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp


______________________________________________________= ___
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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boundary="===============8476424222775257406==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8476424222775257406== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A5BA6250-0FF9-44C3-A74A-7D3C929F4F9E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_A5BA6250-0FF9-44C3-A74A-7D3C929F4F9E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, Today, the PWG Steering Committee approved a minor update to the IPP = Registry Policy. This update clarifies some areas of process ambiguity. = This latest approved IPP Registry Policy is available here at the = well-known link: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/ipp-registry-policy.txt Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ --Apple-Mail=_A5BA6250-0FF9-44C3-A74A-7D3C929F4F9E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEX4TM/E2Pr7lTZzy2qskbKLDW1N0FAlrLzhwACgkQqskbKLDW 1N1snBAAgs9OuzjbTYBYFdEIt3G8n6mMEnM2BT8gVXXaEGlwUSgSK6IV4Gj38/Ek H7xEri3pXFr0ZWiWmyvTvoN98NSpD8YScjjvwBmnROnNDnNXS5WGVIL4QY/F4JLu Eu9rVomIywvFCZ9b1pT5+Ey3JU4HfAOKoxdZg+XAVYDjnuJ4iMSm/FZOMGSAhuY9 9NPN506sBEQbT/er1oesi4RGyQ6XkFv7pq9cjGgk41BQCnOTFem1nv/yOZlyeVvj MmF3O5ipzE88ZB7Cbd3DEt/SbESHkMVWC9/+KZ0KscIHYzreyhlt79yWwPOH1GE0 FRi5Oq7diXfhUcXMwb/CRW7j+UPkFztIPp4YF7Oge95OCy33lboTlTpxzBwqyWrG joddrhIUPJjxWIHqEVbEOHH0NWDl6FDmu7Vfhj9xFCB3QxJCDi6WKHI9W3cd++so O/AxM3RoYhjuGylkDqheZ+rxpLtXKtUchoOM4ZCB9CJKBbcg7lnamm6x3S6UDY2r QKDibxpaJI6Jucbj/AUcHyFOlXfgPdRwKUYwy1mfYJwQBVwe4573JjvwNG/ixz5E 3m8UVuwn6HF0kiCNHQWBGmWTG/rDit1qQr4HZ9htTUMa6S6VkDm7qUJqvX2QGYyP 8HfFBuLatkZid10zR0cBo3Q4IsBKoNs00J8yitSMIVQ+M8/6pBc= =d0Il -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_A5BA6250-0FF9-44C3-A74A-7D3C929F4F9E-- --===============8476424222775257406== Content-Type: text/plain; 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boundary="===============8746983898445918285==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8746983898445918285== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BDB073F2-8262-4E79-AFA0-3BA70ABDBE6D"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_BDB073F2-8262-4E79-AFA0-3BA70ABDBE6D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, In IPP Everywhere=E2=84=A2 1.0, "print-rendering-intent" support is = mandatory for all printers. However, in JPS3 (PWG 5100.13), = "print-rendering-intent" support is required only for printers that = support "printer-icc-profiles" and ICC color matching. Is there any = functional reason to continue to require "print-rendering-intent" for = printers that don't support "printer-icc-profiles"? If there is no = compelling reason, I propose we soften the IPP Everywhere=E2=84=A2 = requirement for "print-rendering-intent" in v1.1. Thoughts? Objections? Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ --Apple-Mail=_BDB073F2-8262-4E79-AFA0-3BA70ABDBE6D Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEX4TM/E2Pr7lTZzy2qskbKLDW1N0FAlrNJzQACgkQqskbKLDW 1N1j9A//UXZfidFVAuDOksnHhI46W62p8cbzzR2Cp9SOjQwhiMIzhfUNOp+lRuSL AajQPTidiS8+rVuAh24SNKHWY23dkKda23PBvKfVKQQXwJa0/ZtYCfLvH6XVzUQJ 4Gqe6uAfmfCfulkGToB7zc3fBvqKBumJcuJTbTKny9scARKIYq3ZTgiRS3YpxjUD GFzvfg23wgmo5A8m9uju0yz3LeqBRiyWeuSNzIpPxjNIYR0noJwADcYXN5BIDKXt +vjWnxo+hq3P6IXwvtZfUxUAHNvi3UnND9NY8+iDdr0skFN9m/o8AmatObV6197Z S/6e36tYlVxro4zHw2yER2sMbjhRq1s7DiRPfr1Ft4MTGaExhrBcUd9L6+yVjsD1 xEayNhU/vJb87qiQNkpjWSjVUcgPrbdxjt89/MfzD2ELrXBLmTrfbS/hwA/wWu4L 4sDW+Tlp0g3C7Qmg36Gyta/rMggCy0o1573YxoapOqgx4nO1mKO169SNslmcr1Cs xomzT+E8pSi871pPjnVTSns0OOMfZL+q4z2cu5wW2VgHz3zdCddQa5+silowUpHz OXZhtg5TYsBO+f2fSZW8DrsYhfFzMEe3z3KIfO4pSZMWrdC2LDIuBw6Di4i95Hly HgnpZzyYMBr1qPnETXOHNI4k5cHSVFwfRy+JWgKKkjKuqd3TAUg= =aJ3g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_BDB073F2-8262-4E79-AFA0-3BA70ABDBE6D-- --===============8746983898445918285== Content-Type: text/plain; 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However, in JPS3 (PWG 5100.13), = "print-rendering-intent" support is required only for printers that = support "printer-icc-profiles" and ICC color matching. Is there any = functional reason to continue to require "print-rendering-intent" for = printers that don't support "printer-icc-profiles"? If there is no = compelling reason, I propose we soften the IPP Everywhere=E2=84=A2 = requirement for "print-rendering-intent" in v1.1. >=20 > Thoughts? Objections? >=20 > Cheers, > Smith >=20 > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_GZDi36Ga8jZpCTCigNXpOA) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable +1, = make it conditionally required based on ICC support, like JPS3 = does...


On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:05 PM, = Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Greetings,

In IPP Everywhere=E2=84= =A2 1.0, "print-rendering-intent" support is mandatory for all printers. = However, in JPS3 (PWG 5100.13), "print-rendering-intent" support is = required only for printers that support "printer-icc-profiles" and ICC = color matching. Is there any functional reason to continue to require = "print-rendering-intent" for printers that don't support = "printer-icc-profiles"? If there is no compelling reason, I propose we = soften the IPP Everywhere=E2=84=A2 requirement for = "print-rendering-intent" in v1.1.

Thoughts? = Objections?

Cheers,
Smith

/**
   Smith = Kennedy
   Wireless & Standards = Architect - IPG-PPS
   Standards - IEEE = ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
   Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
   HP Inc.
*/



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boundary="===============7791557062710163252==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============7791557062710163252== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A9C812EF-8739-4458-9666-E95DC2421EA6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_A9C812EF-8739-4458-9666-E95DC2421EA6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Mike, Sorry for not getting this feedback to you sooner. One minor quibble: Lines 161 / 180 / 209: "This value MUST appear by itself." might be = better expressed by adding the normative statement "If the 'none' = keyword is specified by this attribute, it MUST be the only keyword = specified." to the paragraph above it (lines 153-155, lines 173-174, = lines 201-203). I'm fine if we leave the document as is, too. Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ > On Apr 3, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > All, >=20 > This message initiates an IPP workgroup last call of the IPP Privacy = Attributes v1.0 (PRIVACY) registration document, which can be found = here: >=20 > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180403.pdf >=20 > This registration defines attributes for specifying the privacy = policies of Document, Job, Printer, and Subscription objects. 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boundary="===============3542070289606440913==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3542070289606440913== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_1yy8+Ic8Ppnbrvw6EhWzIg)" --Boundary_(ID_1yy8+Ic8Ppnbrvw6EhWzIg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Smith, No worries, comments are fine during last call. I can make the changes before publication in the "registrations" directory (assuming there are no hard objections before the end of the last call...) > On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:16 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > Sorry for not getting this feedback to you sooner. One minor quibble: > > Lines 161 / 180 / 209: "This value MUST appear by itself." might be better expressed by adding the normative statement "If the 'none' keyword is specified by this attribute, it MUST be the only keyword specified." to the paragraph above it (lines 153-155, lines 173-174, lines 201-203). > > I'm fine if we leave the document as is, too. > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > >> On Apr 3, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >> >> All, >> >> This message initiates an IPP workgroup last call of the IPP Privacy Attributes v1.0 (PRIVACY) registration document, which can be found here: >> >> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180403.pdf >> >> This registration defines attributes for specifying the privacy policies of Document, Job, Printer, and Subscription objects. The "ippsample" project contains a prototype implementation of these attributes: >> >> https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample >> >> Please review this document and respond to the IPP mailing list (reply-all to this message is fine) with any feedback you have for the proposed registration. >> >> This last call ends on April 12, 2018 (the next IPP workgroup conference call). >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_1yy8+Ic8Ppnbrvw6EhWzIg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Smith,

No = worries, comments are fine during last call.  I can make the = changes before publication in the "registrations" directory (assuming = there are no hard objections before the end of the last = call...)


On Apr = 10, 2018, at 5:16 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) = <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Hi = Mike,

Sorry for not getting this feedback = to you sooner. One minor quibble:

Lines 161 = / 180 / 209: "This value MUST appear by itself." might be better = expressed by adding the normative statement "If the 'none' keyword is = specified by this attribute, it MUST be the only keyword specified." to = the paragraph above it (lines 153-155, lines 173-174, lines 201-203).

I'm fine if we leave the document as is, = too.

Smith

/**
   Smith Kennedy
   Wireless & Standards Architect - = IPG-PPS
   Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / = Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
=    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
=    HP Inc.
*/



On Apr 3, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:

All,

This= message initiates an IPP workgroup last call of the IPP Privacy = Attributes v1.0 (PRIVACY) registration document, which can be found = here:

https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180403.pdf=

This registration defines attributes = for specifying the privacy policies of Document, Job, Printer, and = Subscription objects.  The "ippsample" project contains a prototype = implementation of these attributes:

= https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample

Please review this document and respond to the IPP mailing = list (reply-all to this message is fine) with any feedback you have for = the proposed registration.

This last call = ends on April 12, 2018 (the next IPP workgroup conference call).

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp


_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:45:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.229.5 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:45:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Ira McDonald Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 17:45:16 -0400 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] IPP WG Agenda 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern (12 April 2018) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7572723454480067476==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============7572723454480067476== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="089e08266ef03e54ba0569998f2a" --089e08266ef03e54ba0569998f2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 12 April 2018 at 12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Topic: IPP WG Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date 3:00 pm | Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00) | 1 hr 30 mins ------------------------------------------------------- WebEx online meeting (join first, before audio bridge) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm0359478143 ca01e059a570ada91f3573 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". ------------------------------------------------------- Audio Bridge (join second w/ unique access code from WebEx) ------------------------------------------------------- Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239 <%28866%29%20469-3239= > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300 <%28650%29%20429-3300> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570 <%28408%29%20856-9570> Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio options ("Call Me Back" or VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting. Unique attendee access code: Displayed in the WebEx meeting Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, Roll Call, and Agenda Review - Mike as minute taker? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180329.pdf -- IPP WG call on 03/29/18 (3) Status/Review of various IPP mailing list notes - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019542.html -- Registration of "media" keyword values - DONE - in IANA Registry 04/06/1= 8 - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019544.html -- JPEG JFIF for monochrome printers? - RESOLVED - 04/02/18 - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019547.html -- [PWG5100.11] Issue #70: URL on cover page is incorrect - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019557.html -- Questioning IPP Everywhere requiring "print-rendering-intent" - RESOLVED - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/ipp-registry-policy.txt - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019556.html -- PWG approves IPP Registry Policy (4) Status of Open Printing WG GSoC 2018 (Ira) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019511.html -- DONE - 4 January to 23 January - Mentor organization applications -- DONE - 23 January - 11 February - GSoC reviews mentor org applications -- DONE - 12 February - GSoC approves mentoring organizations -- DONE - 12 February to 12 March - Students discuss GSoC projects -- DONE - 12 to 27 March - Students apply for GSoC projects - 23 April - GSoC approves projects and Students - 14 May - GSoC coding begins -- GSoC reduced Linux Foundation slots from 19 to 13 - triage in progress (5) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20180315.htm -- see PWG SC minutes of 03/15/18 (6) Status of How to Print Using the IPP (Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20180207.pdf =E2=81=83 https://github.com/istopwg/pwg-books -- IPP WG edits during PWG Virtual F2F on 02/07/18 -- Current HTML draft available in Github repository -- Schedule - TBD (7) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20180123-rev.pdf -- Interim draft - PWG Virtual F2F review on 02/08/18 -- Schedule - TBD (8) Status/Review of IPP Encrypted Jobs and Documents - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrustnoone10-20180328-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019539.html -- Interim draft - for future IPP WG review -- Schedule - TBD (9) Status of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20180214-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019475.html - https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/projects/1 -- Prototype draft - PWG Virtual F2F review on 02/08/18 -- Prototyping tasks being tracked as a Github project -- Schedule - prototype in "ippserver" - Stable draft in Q2/Q3 2018 (10) Status/Review of IPP Privacy Attributes (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180403-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019548.html - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019549.html -- Stable draft - IPP WG review on 03/29/18 -- Schedule - IPP WG Last Call 04/02/18 to 04/12/18 (11) Status of IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification 1.0 Update 3? - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180329.pdf -- Goals, ipptool and ippfind updates -- Schedule - TBD (12) Status/Review of IPP Reprint Password (Smith) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippreprintpwd-20180404-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019551.html -- Interim draft - for future IPP WG review -- Schedule - TBD (13) Status/Review of IPP Everywhere 1.1 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019550.html -- Interim draft - for future IPP WG review -- Schedule - Q2/Q3 2018 (14) Status/Review of IPP Everywhere 1.1 Self-Certification Manual 1.1 - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert11-20180404-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019552.html -- Interim draft - for future IPP WG review -- Schedule - Q2/Q3 2018 (15) Next steps - IPP WG call on Thu 26 April 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- regular topics - IPP WG call on Thu 10 May 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- slides for Joint PWG/OP F2F in Sunnyvale, CA Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --089e08266ef03e54ba0569998f2a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Our next WG call will be Thursday 12 A= pril 2018 at
12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern

<= span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">NOTE: Please USE the *new* W= ebEx and Audio Bridge below

---------------------= ----------------------------------
Meeting information
---------= ----------------------------------------------
Topic: IPP WG
Ever= y 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date
3:00 = pm=C2=A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A0Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00)=C2= =A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A01 hr 30 mins

-------------------------------------------------------
WebEx= online meeting (join first= , before audio bridge)
-------------------------------------= ------------------
1. Go to http= s://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm0359478143ca01e05= 9a570ada91f3573
2. If requested, enter your name and email address.<= br>3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing1234. Click "Join".

-----------------------------------= --------------------
Audio Bridge (join second w/ unique access code from WebEx)
-= ------------------------------------------------------
Call-= in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239
Call-in toll num= ber (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300
Call-in toll number (US/Canada):= +1 408 856-9570

Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio options ("Call Me= Back" or VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting.

Uni= que attendee access code:=C2=A0 Displayed in the WebEx meeting
Agenda:
(1) PWG IP= Policy, Minute Taker, Roll Call, and Agenda Review
- Mike as minute taker?
=
(2) Approve IPP minutes f= rom previous meetings
(3) Status/Review of various IPP mailing list notes
-- Re= gistration of "media" keyword values - DONE - in IANA Registry 04= /06/18
- ht= tp://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019544.html
-- JPEG JF= IF for monochrome printers? - RESOLVED - 04/02/18
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/20= 18/019547.html
-- [PWG5100.11] Issue #70: URL on cover page is incor= rect
- http= ://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019557.html
-- Questioning IPP Ever= ywhere requiring "print-rendering-intent" - RESOLVED
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/ipp-registry-policy.txt<= /a>
- http:= //www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019556.html
-- PWG approves IPP Regi= stry Policy

(4) Status of Open Printing WG GSo= C 2018 (Ira)
-- DONE - 4 January to 23 January - Me= ntor organization applications
-- DONE - 23 January - 11 February - GSoC= reviews mentor org applications
-- DONE - 12 February - GSoC approves m= entoring organizations
-- DONE - 12 February to 12 March - Students discuss GSoC projects<= br>-- DONE - 12 to 27 Mar= ch - Students apply for GSoC projects
- 23 April - GSo= C approves projects and Students
- 14 May - GSoC coding begins
=
-- GSoC reduced Linux = Foundation slots from 19 to 13 - triage in progress
(5) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul)
-- see PWG= SC minutes of=20 03/15/18

(6) Status of=20 How to Print Using the IPP (Mike)
-- IPP WG edits during=20 PWG Virtual F2F on 02/07/18
-- Current HTML draft available in Github re= pository
-- Schedule - TBD

(7) Status of <= span class=3D"gmail-m_-450012683051888877gmail-m_-7158819093852740809gmail-= m_-5208763249917800182gmail-m_8332558219262867178gmail-m_-43556257630399395= 4gmail-m_-5923257778772754391gmail-m_-5748117052203830036gmail-m_-819185601= 0333525718gmail-m_8744592929867059171gmail-il">IPP HTTP Authentication whitep= aper (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20180123-rev.pdf
--= =20 Interim draft -=20 PWG Virtual F2F review on 02/08/18
-- Schedule - TBD

(8) Status/Review of IPP Encrypted Jobs and= Documents
- https://ftp.pw= g.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrustnoone10-20180328-rev.pdf
- ht= tp://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019539.html
-- Interim draft - fo= r future IPP WG review
-- Sc= hedule - TBD

(9) Status of IPP = System Service (Ira/Mike)
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pu= b/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20180214-rev.pdf
- http://= www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019475.html
- https://github.c= om/istopwg/ippsample/projects/1
-- Prototype draft - PWG Virtua= l F2F review on 02/08/18
-- Prototyping tasks being tracked as a Github project
-- Schedule -= prototype in "ippserver" - Stable draft in Q2/Q3 2018

(10) Status/Review of IPP Privacy Attributes (Mike)
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprivacy10-20180403-rev= .pdf
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019548.html
<= /div>
- ht= tp://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019549.html
-- Stable draft - IPP= WG review on 03/29/18
-- Schedule - IPP WG Last Call 04/02/18 to 04/12/= 18

(11) Status of IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification 1.0= Update 3?
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp= /minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180329.pdf
-- Goals, ipp= tool and ippfind updates
--=20 Schedule - TBD

(12) Status/Review of IPP Reprint Password= (Smith)
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippreprintp= wd-20180404-rev.pdf
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019551.html
-- Interim draft= -=20 for future IPP WG review
-- Schedule - TBD

=
(13) Status/Review of IPP Everywhere 1.1 (Mike)
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180403-rev.pdf=
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019550.html
-- Interim draft= -=20 for future IPP WG review
-- Schedule - Q2/Q3 2018

(14) Status/Review of IPP Everyw= here 1.1 Self-Certification Manual 1.1
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippevese= lfcert11-20180404-rev.pdf
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019552.html
-- Interim draft= =20 -=20 for future IPP WG review
-- Schedule - Q2/Q3 2018

(15) Next steps

- IPP WG call on Thu 26 April 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
-- regular topics

- IPP WG call on Thu 10 May 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
-- slides for Joint PWG/OP F2F in Sunnyvale, CA

Cheers,
- Ira


=
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Ch= air - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Pr= inting WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE= -ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &am= p; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.= com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734= -944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494= -2434

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted an initial draft of "A Safe G-Code Subset for 3D Printing" to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180412.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180412.pdf The purpose of this white paper is to a) define a "safe" subset of G-code we could use as an intermediate pre-sliced format for FDM printers and b) determine what (if any) additional IPP attributes or values are needed to allow a Client or cloud service to generate suitable G-code for printing. The end goal is to allow entry-level 3D printers with basic networking support to support IPP 3D... _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Apr 12 13:38:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026C812DA02 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 13:38:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.54 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted the minutes from today's IPP workgroup conference call to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180412.pdf Our next conference call is on April 26, 2018 at 3pm ET. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Apr 12 14:12:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8169C12DA14 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 14:12:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.795 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.795 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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boundary="===============8972000077265814211==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8972000077265814211== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D04A727A-5664-490C-A50C-3DE1E6FC0A8E"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_D04A727A-5664-490C-A50C-3DE1E6FC0A8E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5B18695A-1864-4E38-99D9-CD3B3812FD88" --Apple-Mail=_5B18695A-1864-4E38-99D9-CD3B3812FD88 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, I've recently been asked by someone working on a new IPP client = implementation about the meaning of RFC 8010 section 3.3 = (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8010#section-3.3 = ), which says: Table 1 maps the Model group name to value of the "begin-attribute- group-tag" field: +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | Model Document | "begin-attribute-group-tag" field values | | Group | | +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | Operation | "operations-attributes-tag" | | Attributes | | +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | Job Template | "job-attributes-tag" | | Attributes | | +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | Job Object | "job-attributes-tag" | | Attributes | | +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | Unsupported | "unsupported-attributes-tag" | | Attributes | | +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | Requested | (Get-Job-Attributes) "job-attributes-tag" | | Attributes | | +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | Requested | (Get-Printer-Attributes)"printer-attributes-tag" | | Attributes | | +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | Document | in a special position at the end of the message | | Content | as described in Section 3.1.1 = . | +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ Table 1: Group Values For each operation request and response, the Model prescribes the required and optional attribute groups, along with their order. Within each attribute group, the Model prescribes the required and optional attributes, along with their order. After reading RFC 8011 more closely, "Requested Attributes = (Get-Job-Attributes)" seems to mean that the Get-Job-Attributes response = will list the set of requested attributes in the group with the = "job-attributes-tag", and "Requested Attributes = (Get-Printer-Attributes)" means the Get-Printer-Attributes response will = list the set of requested attributes in the group with the = "printer-attributes-tag". But that required a bit of back-and-forth = between 8010 and 8011. If there is a mechanism to report errata to an = RFC, I'd like to request that these rows be modified to read more like = so: +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | Requested | "job-attributes-tag" | | Attributes | (Get-Job-Attributes operation response) | +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | Requested | "printer-attributes-tag" | | Attributes | (Get-Printer-Attributes operation response) | +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ Thoughts? Maybe these kinds of editorial errata can be rolled in as part = of their move to full Internet Standard? Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ --Apple-Mail=_5B18695A-1864-4E38-99D9-CD3B3812FD88 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Greetings,

I've recently been asked by someone working on a new IPP = client implementation about the meaning of RFC 8010 section 3.3 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8010#section-3.3), which = says:

   Table 1 maps the Model group name to value of the =
"begin-attribute-
   group-tag" field:

   +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
   | Model Document | "begin-attribute-group-tag" field values         |
   | Group          |                                                  |
   +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
   | Operation      | "operations-attributes-tag"                      |
   | Attributes     |                                                  |
   +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
   | Job Template   | "job-attributes-tag"                             |
   | Attributes     |                                                  |
   +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
   | Job Object     | "job-attributes-tag"                             |
   | Attributes     |                                                  |
   +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
   | Unsupported    | "unsupported-attributes-tag"                     |
   | Attributes     |                                                  |
   +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
   | =
Requested      | (Get-Job-Attributes) "job-attributes-tag"        =
|
   | Attributes     |                                       =
           |
   +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
   | Requested      | =
(Get-Printer-Attributes)"printer-attributes-tag" |
   | Attributes     |                                       =
           |
   +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
   | Document       | in a special position at the end of the message  |
   | Content        | as described in Section 3.1.1.                   |
   +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+

                           Table 1: Group Values

   For each operation request and response, the Model prescribes the
   required and optional attribute groups, along with their order.
   Within each attribute group, the Model prescribes the required and
   optional attributes, along with their order.


After reading RFC 8011 = more closely, "Requested Attributes (Get-Job-Attributes)" seems to mean = that the Get-Job-Attributes response will list the set of requested = attributes in the group with the "job-attributes-tag", and "Requested = Attributes (Get-Printer-Attributes)" means the Get-Printer-Attributes = response will list the set of requested attributes in the group with the = "printer-attributes-tag". But that required a bit of back-and-forth = between 8010 and 8011. If there is a mechanism to report errata to an = RFC, I'd like to request that these rows be modified to read more like = so:

   =
+----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
   | =
Requested      | "job-attributes-tag"                             =
|
   | Attributes     | (Get-Job-Attributes operation =
response)          |
   =
+----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
   | Requested      | "printer-attributes-tag"              =
           |
   | Attributes     | (Get-Printer-Attributes operation =
response)      |
   +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+

Thoughts? Maybe these kinds of editorial errata can be rolled = in as part of their move to full Internet Standard?

Smith

/**
  =   Smith Kennedy
    Wireless & = Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
    Standards - = IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / = USB-IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working = Group
    HP Inc.
*/



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<4309F5E7-1F9C-4585-ADD8-1E0063657A4E@hp.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 08:36:02 -0400 Message-id: <10DB8C4D-016A-40D7-A444-6F623B4CE2EB@apple.com> References: <4309F5E7-1F9C-4585-ADD8-1E0063657A4E@hp.com> To: Smith Kennedy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrJLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FAYobv168Uog6cX5SyO7XvJYvGqaxez A5PHrm07mTzmLZ7OFMAUxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJWxePlltoJPahUrJ3g1MK6T7mLk5JAQMJE4 +38vYxcjF4eQwGomiePT7rPAJFrvfmKBSGxgkji5q58ZJMErICjxY/I9oAQHB7OAvMTB87Ig YWYBLYnvj1qh6icySSzrvwA2SFhAQuJ4/0JWkHphAQOJf61KIGE2ATWJ35P6WEFsTgEridn9 LYwgNouAqsSSn5cZIWaqSby6Po0FYq2NxKnufWBxIQFLiaa7M8DOERHQkPgwpZkN4mYlif+7 jjCD3CAh0Mgm0Tm1lWUCo/AsJGfPQjh7FpKzFzAyr2IUyk3MzNHNzDPVSywoyEnVS87P3cQI CuvpdsI7GE+vsjrEKMDBqMTDu+P+hSgh1sSy4srcQ4zSHCxK4rxn5C9GCQmkJ5akZqemFqQW xReV5qQWH2Jk4uCUamAU1n597j2PVPUajxC1qc/NzpcfO/pMMMrIS+1ulOf/MPktqy8vlNQy tqs6IxHPrreJ7c62KYdPVs1756EyaU/cktPBa3lPXt+a9TzJU/dw8zzuKt7yCxXvfWWCuSVz 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Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Smith, I agree in principle with the editorial changes, however making that sort of change is probably beyond what current IETF process would allow for simply updating the status of those RFCs to Internet Standard, which means going through another round of updates. I'm not so keen on *that* - it took us long enough to get 2910/2911 updated, and doing an update to 8010/8011 will likely push more changes on us thanks to the work being done on updating the "HTTP-based Protocols" BCP. > On Apr 13, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > > Greetings, > > I've recently been asked by someone working on a new IPP client implementation about the meaning of RFC 8010 section 3.3 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8010#section-3.3), which says: > > Table 1 maps the Model group name to value of the "begin-attribute- > group-tag" field: > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > | Model Document | "begin-attribute-group-tag" field values | > | Group | | > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > | Operation | "operations-attributes-tag" | > | Attributes | | > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > | Job Template | "job-attributes-tag" | > | Attributes | | > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > | Job Object | "job-attributes-tag" | > | Attributes | | > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > | Unsupported | "unsupported-attributes-tag" | > | Attributes | | > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > | > Requested | (Get-Job-Attributes) "job-attributes-tag" > | > | > Attributes > | | > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > | > Requested | (Get-Printer-Attributes)"printer-attributes-tag" > | > | > Attributes > | | > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > | Document | in a special position at the end of the message | > | Content | as described in > Section 3.1.1 > . | > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > Table 1: Group Values > > For each operation request and response, the Model prescribes the > required and optional attribute groups, along with their order. > Within each attribute group, the Model prescribes the required and > optional attributes, along with their order. > > > > After reading RFC 8011 more closely, "Requested Attributes (Get-Job-Attributes)" seems to mean that the Get-Job-Attributes response will list the set of requested attributes in the group with the "job-attributes-tag", and "Requested Attributes (Get-Printer-Attributes)" means the Get-Printer-Attributes response will list the set of requested attributes in the group with the "printer-attributes-tag". But that required a bit of back-and-forth between 8010 and 8011. If there is a mechanism to report errata to an RFC, I'd like to request that these rows be modified to read more like so: > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > | > Requested | "job-attributes-tag" > | > | > Attributes | (Get-Job-Attributes operation response) | > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > | > Requested | "printer-attributes-tag" > | > | > Attributes | (Get-Printer-Attributes operation response) > | > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > > Thoughts? Maybe these kinds of editorial errata can be rolled in as part of their move to full Internet Standard? > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sat Apr 14 09:28:24 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEB7126C2F for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 09:28:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.287 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.287 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Sat, 14 Apr 2018 09:28:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.229.5 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 09:27:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <10DB8C4D-016A-40D7-A444-6F623B4CE2EB@apple.com> References: <4309F5E7-1F9C-4585-ADD8-1E0063657A4E@hp.com> <10DB8C4D-016A-40D7-A444-6F623B4CE2EB@apple.com> From: Ira McDonald Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:27:51 -0400 Message-ID: To: Michael Sweet , Ira McDonald Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC 8010 section 3.3 question X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0299095677943206317==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0299095677943206317== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c0df93c88c7120569d17928" --94eb2c0df93c88c7120569d17928 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Smith, AFTER we move RFC 8010/8011 to full Internet Standard, the RFC Editor has a process to attach errata notes to published RFCs (which doesn't commit anyone to ever revise the original RFC). I suggest we defer this edit until then, OK? Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 8:36 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Smith, > > I agree in principle with the editorial changes, however making that sort > of change is probably beyond what current IETF process would allow for > simply updating the status of those RFCs to Internet Standard, which means > going through another round of updates. I'm not so keen on *that* - it took > us long enough to get 2910/2911 updated, and doing an update to 8010/8011 > will likely push more changes on us thanks to the work being done on > updating the "HTTP-based Protocols" BCP. > > > > On Apr 13, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards > Architec) wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > I've recently been asked by someone working on a new IPP client > implementation about the meaning of RFC 8010 section 3.3 ( > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8010#section-3.3), which says: > > > > Table 1 maps the Model group name to value of the "begin-attribute- > > group-tag" field: > > > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | Model Document | "begin-attribute-group-tag" field values | > > | Group | | > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | Operation | "operations-attributes-tag" | > > | Attributes | | > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | Job Template | "job-attributes-tag" | > > | Attributes | | > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | Job Object | "job-attributes-tag" | > > | Attributes | | > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | Unsupported | "unsupported-attributes-tag" | > > | Attributes | | > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | > > Requested | (Get-Job-Attributes) "job-attributes-tag" > > | > > | > > Attributes > > | | > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | > > Requested | (Get-Printer-Attributes)"printer-attributes-tag" > > | > > | > > Attributes > > | | > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | Document | in a special position at the end of the message | > > | Content | as described in > > Section 3.1.1 > > . | > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > > > Table 1: Group Values > > > > For each operation request and response, the Model prescribes the > > required and optional attribute groups, along with their order. > > Within each attribute group, the Model prescribes the required and > > optional attributes, along with their order. > > > > > > > > After reading RFC 8011 more closely, "Requested Attributes > (Get-Job-Attributes)" seems to mean that the Get-Job-Attributes response > will list the set of requested attributes in the group with the > "job-attributes-tag", and "Requested Attributes (Get-Printer-Attributes)" > means the Get-Printer-Attributes response will list the set of requested > attributes in the group with the "printer-attributes-tag". But that > required a bit of back-and-forth between 8010 and 8011. If there is a > mechanism to report errata to an RFC, I'd like to request that these rows > be modified to read more like so: > > > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | > > Requested | "job-attributes-tag" > > | > > | > > Attributes | (Get-Job-Attributes operation response) | > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | > > Requested | "printer-attributes-tag" > > | > > | > > Attributes | (Get-Printer-Attributes operation response) > > | > > +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > Thoughts? Maybe these kinds of editorial errata can be rolled in as part > of their move to full Internet Standard? > > > > Smith > > > > /** > > Smith Kennedy > > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC > Forum / USB-IF > > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > > HP Inc. > > */ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipp mailing list > > ipp@pwg.org > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > --94eb2c0df93c88c7120569d17928 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Smith,

AFTER we move RFC 80= 10/8011 to full Internet Standard, the RFC Editor has a process
to= attach errata notes to published RFCs (which doesn't commit anyone to = ever revise the
original RFC).=C2=A0 I suggest we defer this edit until = then, OK?

Cheers,
- Ira

=

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted= Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secr= etary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Interne= t Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIBBlue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://si= tes.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http:/= /sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-Apr= il: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-D= ec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434


On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 8:36 AM, Michael Swe= et <msweet@apple.com> wrote:


> On Apr 13, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com<= /a>> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've recently been asked by someone working on a new IPP client im= plementation about the meaning of RFC 8010 section 3.3 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8010#section-3.3), which says: >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Table 1 maps the Model group name to value of the "b= egin-attribute-
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 group-tag" field:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +----------------+----------------------------------= ----------------+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Model Document | "begin-attribute-group-tag" = field values=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Group=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +----------------+----------------------------------= ----------------+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Operation=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | "operations-attrib= utes-tag"=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Attributes=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +----------------+----------------------------------= ----------------+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Job Template=C2=A0 =C2=A0| "job-attributes-tag&quo= t;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Attributes=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +----------------+----------------------------------= ----------------+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Job Object=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| "job-attributes-ta= g"=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Attributes=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +----------------+----------------------------------= ----------------+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Unsupported=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | "unsupported-attributes= -tag"=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0|
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Attributes=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +----------------+----------------------------------= ----------------+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
>=C2=A0 Requested=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | (Get-Job-Attributes) "job-a= ttributes-tag"
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
> Attributes
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +----------------+----------------------------------= ----------------+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
> Requested=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | (Get-Printer-Attributes)"pri= nter-attributes-tag"
>=C2=A0 |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
> Attributes
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +----------------+----------------------------------= ----------------+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Document=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| in a special posit= ion at the end of the message=C2=A0 |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Content=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | as described in > Section 3.1.1
> .=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +----------------+----------------------------------= ----------------+
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Table 1: Group Values
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 For each operation request and response, the Model prescr= ibes the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 required and optional attribute groups, along with their = order.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Within each attribute group, the Model prescribes the req= uired and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 optional attributes, along with their order.
>
>
>
> After reading RFC 8011 more closely, "Requested Attributes (Get-J= ob-Attributes)" seems to mean that the Get-Job-Attributes response wil= l list the set of requested attributes in the group with the "job-attr= ibutes-tag", and "Requested Attributes (Get-Printer-Attributes)&q= uot; means the Get-Printer-Attributes response will list the set of request= ed attributes in the group with the "printer-attributes-tag". But= that required a bit of back-and-forth between 8010 and 8011. If there is a= mechanism to report errata to an RFC, I'd like to request that these r= ows be modified to read more like so:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +----------------+----------------------------------= ----------------+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
>=C2=A0 Requested=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | "job-attributes-tag" >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
> Attributes=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| (Get-Job-Attributes operation response= )=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +----------------+----------------------------------= ----------------+
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
> Requested=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | "printer-attributes-tag"
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
> Attributes=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| (Get-Printer-Attributes operation resp= onse)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 +----------------+----------------------------------= ----------------+
>
>
> Thoughts? Maybe these kinds of editorial errata can be rolled in as pa= rt of their move to full Internet Standard?
>
> Smith
>
> /**
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Smith Kennedy
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi A= lliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0HP Inc.
> */
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ipp mailing list
> ipp@pwg.org
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boundary="===============2395126186594556825==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============2395126186594556825== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9062FF77-AAA2-432B-86CD-B7CC6CCF6F2C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_9062FF77-AAA2-432B-86CD-B7CC6CCF6F2C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DF5262D1-EA22-4732-B6BC-7C75FCEE204A" --Apple-Mail=_DF5262D1-EA22-4732-B6BC-7C75FCEE204A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Ira and Mike, I agree 100% with waiting! Achieving full Internet Standard is a higher = priority. Smith > On Apr 14, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Ira McDonald = wrote: >=20 > Hi Smith, >=20 > AFTER we move RFC 8010/8011 to full Internet Standard, the RFC Editor = has a process > to attach errata notes to published RFCs (which doesn't commit anyone = to ever revise the > original RFC). I suggest we defer this edit until then, OK? >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira >=20 >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic = > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc = > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 >=20 > On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 8:36 AM, Michael Sweet > wrote: > Smith, >=20 > I agree in principle with the editorial changes, however making that = sort of change is probably beyond what current IETF process would allow = for simply updating the status of those RFCs to Internet Standard, which = means going through another round of updates. I'm not so keen on *that* = - it took us long enough to get 2910/2911 updated, and doing an update = to 8010/8011 will likely push more changes on us thanks to the work = being done on updating the "HTTP-based Protocols" BCP. >=20 >=20 > > On Apr 13, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) > wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > I've recently been asked by someone working on a new IPP client = implementation about the meaning of RFC 8010 section 3.3 = (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8010#section-3.3 = ), which says: > > > > Table 1 maps the Model group name to value of the = "begin-attribute- > > group-tag" field: > > > > = +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | Model Document | "begin-attribute-group-tag" field values = | > > | Group | = | > > = +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | Operation | "operations-attributes-tag" = | > > | Attributes | = | > > = +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | Job Template | "job-attributes-tag" = | > > | Attributes | = | > > = +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | Job Object | "job-attributes-tag" = | > > | Attributes | = | > > = +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | Unsupported | "unsupported-attributes-tag" = | > > | Attributes | = | > > = +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | > > Requested | (Get-Job-Attributes) "job-attributes-tag" > > | > > | > > Attributes > > | | > > = +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | > > Requested | (Get-Printer-Attributes)"printer-attributes-tag" > > | > > | > > Attributes > > | | > > = +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | Document | in a special position at the end of the = message | > > | Content | as described in > > Section 3.1.1 > > . | > > = +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > > > Table 1: Group Values > > > > For each operation request and response, the Model prescribes the > > required and optional attribute groups, along with their order. > > Within each attribute group, the Model prescribes the required = and > > optional attributes, along with their order. > > > > > > > > After reading RFC 8011 more closely, "Requested Attributes = (Get-Job-Attributes)" seems to mean that the Get-Job-Attributes response = will list the set of requested attributes in the group with the = "job-attributes-tag", and "Requested Attributes = (Get-Printer-Attributes)" means the Get-Printer-Attributes response will = list the set of requested attributes in the group with the = "printer-attributes-tag". But that required a bit of back-and-forth = between 8010 and 8011. If there is a mechanism to report errata to an = RFC, I'd like to request that these rows be modified to read more like = so: > > > > = +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | > > Requested | "job-attributes-tag" > > | > > | > > Attributes | (Get-Job-Attributes operation response) | > > = +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > | > > Requested | "printer-attributes-tag" > > | > > | > > Attributes | (Get-Printer-Attributes operation response) > > | > > = +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > Thoughts? Maybe these kinds of editorial errata can be rolled in as = part of their move to full Internet Standard? > > > > Smith > > > > /** > > Smith Kennedy > > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF > > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > > HP Inc. > > */ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipp mailing list > > ipp@pwg.org > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >=20 --Apple-Mail=_DF5262D1-EA22-4732-B6BC-7C75FCEE204A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = Ira and Mike,

I = agree 100% with waiting! Achieving full Internet Standard is a higher = priority.

Smith



On Apr 14, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Smith,

AFTER we move RFC 8010/8011 to full Internet Standard, = the RFC Editor has a process
to attach errata notes = to published RFCs (which doesn't commit anyone to ever revise the
original RFC).  I suggest we defer this edit until then, = OK?

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software = Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  = 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI = 49839  906-494-2434


On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 8:36 = AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Smith,

I agree in principle with the editorial changes, however making that = sort of change is probably beyond what current IETF process would allow = for simply updating the status of those RFCs to Internet Standard, which = means going through another round of updates. I'm not so keen on *that* = - it took us long enough to get 2910/2911 updated, and doing an update = to 8010/8011 will likely push more changes on us thanks to the work = being done on updating the "HTTP-based Protocols" BCP.


> On Apr 13, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & = Standards Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've recently been asked by someone working on a new IPP client = implementation about the meaning of RFC 8010 section 3.3 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8010#section-3.3), which says:
>
>    Table 1 maps the Model group name to value of the = "begin-attribute-
>    group-tag" field:
>
>    +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
>    | Model Document | "begin-attribute-group-tag" field = values         |
>    | Group          |  =                     =                     =         |
>    +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
>    | Operation      | = "operations-attributes-tag"            =           |
>    | Attributes     |      =                     =                     =     |
>    +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
>    | Job Template   | = "job-attributes-tag"              =                |
>    | Attributes     |      =                     =                     =     |
>    +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
>    | Job Object     | = "job-attributes-tag"              =                |
>    | Attributes     |      =                     =                     =     |
>    +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
>    | Unsupported    | = "unsupported-attributes-tag"            =          |
>    | Attributes     |      =                     =                     =     |
>    +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
>    |
>  Requested      | (Get-Job-Attributes) = "job-attributes-tag"
>         |
>    |
> Attributes
>      |            =                     =                   |
>    +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
>    |
> Requested      | (Get-Printer-Attributes)"printer-attributes-tag"
>  |
>    |
> Attributes
>      |            =                     =                   |
>    +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
>    | Document       | in a special = position at the end of the message  |
>    | Content        | as described in =
> Section 3.1.1
> .                  =  |
>    +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
>
>                  =           Table 1: Group Values
>
>    For each operation request and response, the Model = prescribes the
>    required and optional attribute groups, along with = their order.
>    Within each attribute group, the Model prescribes the = required and
>    optional attributes, along with their order.
>
>
>
> After reading RFC 8011 more closely, "Requested Attributes = (Get-Job-Attributes)" seems to mean that the Get-Job-Attributes response = will list the set of requested attributes in the group with the = "job-attributes-tag", and "Requested Attributes = (Get-Printer-Attributes)" means the Get-Printer-Attributes response will = list the set of requested attributes in the group with the = "printer-attributes-tag". But that required a bit of back-and-forth = between 8010 and 8011. If there is a mechanism to report errata to an = RFC, I'd like to request that these rows be modified to read more like = so:
>
>    +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
>    |
>  Requested      | "job-attributes-tag"
>                  =             |
>    |
> Attributes     | (Get-Job-Attributes operation = response)          |
>    +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
>    |
> Requested      | "printer-attributes-tag"
>                  =         |
>    |
> Attributes     | (Get-Printer-Attributes operation = response)
>       |
>    +----------------+--------------------------------------------------+
>
>
> Thoughts? Maybe these kinds of editorial errata can be rolled in as = part of their move to full Internet Standard?
>
> Smith
>
> /**
>     Smith Kennedy
>     Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
>     Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / = Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
>     Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>     HP Inc.
> */
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ipp mailing list
> ipp@pwg.org
> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp
_________________________________________________________
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Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted an updated interim draft of the "Safe G-Code Subset for 3D Printing" white paper to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180416.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180416.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180416-rev.pdf This draft addresses feedback and adds registrations of IPP attributes and a MIME media type. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Apr 16 18:45:33 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 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boundary="===============3773274905418040213==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3773274905418040213== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_97ADE816-CB2D-44D4-A9C0-E6432B269D85"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_97ADE816-CB2D-44D4-A9C0-E6432B269D85 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_FD0AD9CF-C60C-4E32-BBA4-FFD17496ECCC" --Apple-Mail=_FD0AD9CF-C60C-4E32-BBA4-FFD17496ECCC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I approve and second this! Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ > On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > All, >=20 > As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd = like remove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere = 1.1. >=20 > Thoughts? >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --Apple-Mail=_FD0AD9CF-C60C-4E32-BBA4-FFD17496ECCC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I approve and second this!

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/



On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

All,

As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd like remove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1.

Thoughts?

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

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Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:14:35 +0000 From: "Paul Tykodi" To: "'Michael Sweet'" References: <4A6C4BFD-8ACF-4305-9298-4F3BF6F35307@hp.com> In-Reply-To: <4A6C4BFD-8ACF-4305-9298-4F3BF6F35307@hp.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 05:14:34 -0400 Organization: Tykodi Consulting Services LLC Message-ID: <021201d3d62c$81297800$837c6800$@tykodi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQIKAKBIrbN3ZOPYIp4ryKx44XwBwQHH+3y8o4oW0MA= X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfN3v3ppxJu8BytUDBOHgR9q8oVyCKIFVg4oW4wCgqXyRjqrmR0NATjkaaRC0N0qJNVcrRvbfK4Efjs31wFKeLtRrJT7CykEQNB2FIi+1vo4ONbqgeRUS cULx54OtxK8K7W61bFldOJZvei3s7xwIxihXH70PCp7buFMZegBXYOECMTbawF/kvddT+fJyQUOsj44oq1PUJXU0otSfprARTnk= Cc: 'PWG IPP WG Reflector' Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1 X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: ptykodi@tykodi.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7534576679018534170==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============7534576679018534170== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0213_01D3D60A.FA1A4900" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0213_01D3D60A.FA1A4900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mike, Where I believe some vendors use them to send pre and post job processing device specific commands, I don't believe we should fully retire support for the 1284 device ID's at this time. Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement? Thanks. Best Regards, /Paul -- Paul Tykodi Principal Consultant TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820 Mobile: 603-866-0712 E-mail: ptykodi@tykodi.com WWW: http://www.tykodi.com This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi Consulting Services LLC immediately by replying to this message and destroying all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you From: ipp On Behalf Of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM To: Michael Sweet Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1 I approve and second this! Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet > wrote: All, As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd like remove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1. Thoughts? _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp ------=_NextPart_000_0213_01D3D60A.FA1A4900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mike,

 

Where I believe some vendors use them to send = pre and post job processing device specific commands, I don’t = believe we should fully retire support for the 1284 device ID’s at = this time.

 

Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL = requirement?

 

Thanks.

 

Best Regards,

 

/Paul

-= -

P= aul Tykodi
Principal Consultant
TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services = LLC

Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820
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From: ipp = <ipp-bounces@pwg.org> On Behalf Of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless = & Standards Architec)
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 = PM
To: Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
Cc: = PWG IPP WG Reflector <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] = RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere = 1.1

 

I approve = and second this!

 

Smith

/**
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    Wireless & Standards Architect - = IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / = Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
    Chair, IEEE = ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP = Inc.
*/



On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:

 

All,

As 1284 device IDs are only needed for = printer driver selection, I'd like remove all of the 1284 device ID = requirements from IPP Everywhere = 1.1.

Thoughts?

____________________________________________= _____________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System = Engineer

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Mike and Smith - certainly we should drop 1284 Device ID from IPP Everywhere, which is about driverless printing. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi wrote: > Hi Mike, > > > > Where I believe some vendors use them to send pre and post job processing > device specific commands, I don=E2=80=99t believe we should fully retire = support > for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s at this time. > > > > Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > /Paul > > -- > > Paul Tykodi > Principal Consultant > TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC > > Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820 > Mobile: 603-866-0712 > E-mail: ptykodi@tykodi.com > WWW: http://www.tykodi.com > > > > This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential and may be > privileged. > > If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi Consulting > Services LLC > > immediately by replying to this message and destroying all copies of this > message > > and any attachments. Thank you > > > > *From:* ipp *On Behalf Of *Kennedy, Smith (Wireless > & Standards Architec) > *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM > *To:* Michael Sweet > *Cc:* PWG IPP WG Reflector > *Subject:* Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP > Everywhere 1.1 > > > > I approve and second this! > > > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Foru= m > / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > > On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > > > > All, > > As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd like > remove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1. > > Thoughts? > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > --00000000000080ac54056a08e7f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Paul - you = can't submit a 1284 Device ID as a command in IPP - it's a declarat= ive
property only.

Mike and Smith - certainly we shou= ld drop 1284 Device ID from IPP Everywhere,
which is about driverl= ess printing.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira M= cDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility = Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IE= EE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing= Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof= Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google= .com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.goo= gle.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Pa= rk Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box= 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

<= /div>

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi= <ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:

Hi Mike,

=C2=A0

Where I believe some vendors use them to send p= re and post job processing device specific commands, I don=E2=80=99t believ= e we should fully retire support for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s at this t= ime.

=C2=A0

Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement?

=C2=A0

Thanks.

=C2=A0

Best Regards,

=C2=A0

/Paul

--

Paul Tykodi
Principal Co= nsultant
TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC

Tel/Fax: 603-343-18= 20
Mobile:=C2=A0 603-866-0712
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= =C2=A0

This e-mail reply and an= y attachments are confidential and may be privileged.<= /p>

If you = are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi Consulting Services LL= C

immediately by replying to this message and destroying all= copies of this message

and any attachments. Thank you

=C2=A0

From: ipp <ipp-bounces@pwg.org> On Beha= lf Of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec)
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM
To: Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
= Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284= device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1

=C2=A0

I approve and second this!

=C2=A0

Smith
/**
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wireless & Standar= ds Architect - IPG-PPS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetoo= th SIG / Wi-Fi=C2=A0Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Chair, I= EEE ISTO Printer Working Group
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 HP Inc.
*/



=

On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet <= msweet@apple.com&= gt; wrote:

=C2=A0

All,

As 1284 device IDs are o= nly needed for printer driver selection, I'd like remove all of the 128= 4 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1.

Thoughts?

_= ________________________________________________________
Michael Sw= eet, Senior Printing System Engineer

______________________________<= wbr>_________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
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boundary="===============0252310329678427554==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0252310329678427554== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_7/oFBnyesvuZJzsEGniILA)" --Boundary_(ID_7/oFBnyesvuZJzsEGniILA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Paul, > On Apr 17, 2018, at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi wrote: >=20 > Hi Mike, > =20 > Where I believe some vendors use them to send pre and post job = processing device specific commands, I don=E2=80=99t believe we should = fully retire support for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s at this time. While I acknowledge this may be true for general IPP printing, the = device ID is not needed for IPP Everywhere since we have higher-level = PDLs that respect Job Template attributes. And in the case of PWG = Raster, the pwg-raster-document-xxx attributes are used by a Client to = produce a compatible raster stream, *not* the 1284 device ID. =20 > Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement? Basically, although I'd like to just remove the references in the IPP = Everywhere specification and let the original definition in PWG 5107.2 = stand for vendors that want to support the attribute. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_7/oFBnyesvuZJzsEGniILA) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Paul,

On = Apr 17, 2018, at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi@tykodi.com> = wrote:

Hi Mike,
 
Where I = believe some vendors use them to send pre and post job processing device = specific commands, I don=E2=80=99t believe we should fully retire = support for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s at this = time.

While= I acknowledge this may be true for general IPP printing, the device ID = is not needed for IPP Everywhere since we have higher-level PDLs that = respect Job Template attributes.  And in the case of PWG Raster, = the pwg-raster-document-xxx attributes are used by a Client to produce a = compatible raster stream, *not* the 1284 device ID.
 
Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL = requirement?

Basically, although I'd like to just remove the = references in the IPP Everywhere specification and let the original = definition in PWG 5107.2 stand for vendors that want to support the = attribute.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

= --Boundary_(ID_7/oFBnyesvuZJzsEGniILA)-- --===============0252310329678427554== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============0252310329678427554==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Apr 17 05:17:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5358A12EB1A for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 05:17:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.687 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.687 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FUQhWOrnMD5Z for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 05:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF0612EB20 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 05:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id E11CCBEEE; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D42415A; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:17:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 3C775415F; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atl4mhob21.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob21.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.115]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C6D626E1 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (atl4qobmail01.registeredsite.com [10.30.71.203]) by atl4mhob21.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w3HCHIFc001840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 08:17:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 23868 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 2018 12:17:18 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 174.192.6.121 X-Authenticated-UID: ptykodi@tykodi.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?100.78.196.173?) (ptykodi@tykodi.com@174.192.6.121) by 0 with ESMTPA; 17 Apr 2018 12:17:18 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Paul Tykodi X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (15E216) In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 08:17:17 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4A6C4BFD-8ACF-4305-9298-4F3BF6F35307@hp.com> <021201d3d62c$81297800$837c6800$@tykodi.com> To: Ira McDonald Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1 X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4153800762532857615==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4153800762532857615== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-733773F3-F613-421C-B528-D6FC23874524 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-733773F3-F613-421C-B528-D6FC23874524 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ira, My thought is that some vendor developed IPP Everywhere implementations may t= weak PDF or JPEG processing on the client (i.e. sender) side for certain 128= 4 device ID=E2=80=99s. If we make retiring them a two step process, we probably would give any deve= lopers that have done this time to adjust their code. I am Ok with removing them from IPP Everywhere but am just asking about best= way to implement change so that developers have time to react. Best Regards, /Paul Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Ira McDonald wrote:= >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Paul - you can't submit a 1284 Device ID as a command in IPP - it's a decl= arative > property only. >=20 > Mike and Smith - certainly we should drop 1284 Device ID from IPP Everywhe= re, > which is about driverless printing. >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira >=20 >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 >=20 >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi wrote: >> Hi Mike, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Where I believe some vendors use them to send pre and post job processing= device specific commands, I don=E2=80=99t believe we should fully retire su= pport for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s at this time. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement? >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Thanks. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Best Regards, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> /Paul >>=20 >> -- >>=20 >> Paul Tykodi >> Principal Consultant >> TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC >>=20 >> Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820 >> Mobile: 603-866-0712 >> E-mail: ptykodi@tykodi.com >> WWW: http://www.tykodi.com >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential and may be privile= ged. >>=20 >> If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi Consulting Se= rvices LLC >>=20 >> immediately by replying to this message and destroying all copies of this= message >>=20 >> and any attachments. Thank you >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> From: ipp On Behalf Of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & S= tandards Architec) >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM >> To: Michael Sweet >> Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector >> Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywh= ere 1.1 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I approve and second this! >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Smith >>=20 >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS >> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Foru= m / USB-IF >> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >> HP Inc. >> */ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> All, >>=20 >> As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd like= remove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1. >>=20 >> Thoughts? >>=20 >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-733773F3-F613-421C-B528-D6FC23874524 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ira,

My thought is th= at some vendor developed IPP Everywhere implementations may tweak PDF or JPE= G processing on the client (i.e. sender) side for certain 1284 device ID=E2=80= =99s.

If we make retiring them a two step process, w= e probably would give any developers that have done this time to adjust thei= r code.

I am Ok with removing them from IPP Everywh= ere but am just asking about best way to implement change so that developers= have time to react.

Best Regards,

/Paul

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

=
Hi,

Paul - you can't submit a 1284 Device ID as a command in I= PP - it's a declarative
property only.

Mike and Smith -= certainly we should drop 1284 Device ID from IPP Everywhere,
which= is about driverless printing.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted= Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secre= tary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet P= rinting Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blu= e Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.go= ogle.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.g= oogle.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Pa= rk Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 2= 21  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434

=

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi <= span dir=3D"ltr"><ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:
<= div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US">

Hi Mike,

 

Where I believe some vendors use them to send pre and pos= t job processing device specific commands, I don=E2=80=99t believe we should= fully retire support for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s at this time.<= u>

 

Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement?

 

Thanks.=

<= u> 

Best Regards,

 

= /Paul

--

Paul Tykodi
Principal Consultant
TCS - Tykodi Consult= ing Services LLC

Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820
Mobile:  603-866-0712<= br>E-mail:  pty= kodi@tykodi.com
WWW:  http://www.tykodi.com

 = ;

This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential and may be pri= vileged.

If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Ty= kodi Consulting Services LLC

immediately by replying to this me= ssage and destroying all copies of this message

and any attachme= nts. Thank you

&= nbsp;

From: ipp <ipp-bounces@pwg.org= > On Behalf Of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec)<= br>Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM
To: Michael Sweet &= lt;msweet@apple.com>
Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1= 284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1

 

I approve and second this!

 

Smith

/= **
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless & Standards A= rchitect - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SI= G / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
    Chair, IEEE IS= TO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/



=

On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:<= u>

 

<= div>

All,

As 1284 device IDs are only needed fo= r printer driver selection, I'd like remove all of the 1284 device ID requir= ements from IPP Everywhere 1.1.

Thoughts?

____________________= _____________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing= System Engineer

_______________________________________________=
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https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

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boundary="===============8746022314809245647==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8746022314809245647== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/wXWe+SYpujXzmXCLbhV3Q)" --Boundary_(ID_/wXWe+SYpujXzmXCLbhV3Q) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Paul, I'm not aware of any IPP Everywhere client that does this - CUPS = certainly doesn't. > On Apr 17, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Paul Tykodi wrote: >=20 > Hi Ira, >=20 > My thought is that some vendor developed IPP Everywhere = implementations may tweak PDF or JPEG processing on the client (i.e. = sender) side for certain 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s. >=20 > If we make retiring them a two step process, we probably would give = any developers that have done this time to adjust their code. >=20 > I am Ok with removing them from IPP Everywhere but am just asking = about best way to implement change so that developers have time to = react. >=20 > Best Regards, >=20 > /Paul >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Ira McDonald > wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> Paul - you can't submit a 1284 Device ID as a command in IPP - it's a = declarative >> property only. >>=20 >> Mike and Smith - certainly we should drop 1284 Device ID from IPP = Everywhere, >> which is about driverless printing. >>=20 >> Cheers, >> - Ira >>=20 >>=20 >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic = >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc = >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 >> May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi > wrote: >> Hi Mike, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Where I believe some vendors use them to send pre and post job = processing device specific commands, I don=E2=80=99t believe we should = fully retire support for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s at this time. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement? >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Thanks. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Best Regards, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> /Paul >>=20 >> -- >>=20 >> Paul Tykodi >> Principal Consultant >> TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC >>=20 >> Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820 >> Mobile: 603-866-0712 >> E-mail: ptykodi@tykodi.com >> WWW: http://www.tykodi.com >> =20 >>=20 >> This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential and may be = privileged. >>=20 >> If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi = Consulting Services LLC >>=20 >> immediately by replying to this message and destroying all copies of = this message >>=20 >> and any attachments. Thank you >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> From: ipp > On = Behalf Of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM >> To: Michael Sweet > >> Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector > >> Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP = Everywhere 1.1 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I approve and second this! >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Smith >>=20 >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS >> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF >> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >> HP Inc. >> */ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet > wrote: >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> All, >>=20 >> As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd = like remove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere = 1.1. >>=20 >> Thoughts? >>=20 >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >>=20 >>=20 _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_/wXWe+SYpujXzmXCLbhV3Q) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Paul,

I'm = not aware of any IPP Everywhere client that does this - CUPS certainly = doesn't.


On Apr = 17, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi@tykodi.com> = wrote:

Hi Ira,

My thought is that some vendor = developed IPP Everywhere implementations may tweak PDF or JPEG = processing on the client (i.e. sender) side for certain 1284 device = ID=E2=80=99s.

If= we make retiring them a two step process, we probably would give any = developers that have done this time to adjust their code.

I am Ok with removing = them from IPP Everywhere but am just asking about best way to implement = change so that developers have time to react.

Best Regards,

/Paul

Sent from my iPhone

On = Apr 17, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Paul - you can't submit a 1284 Device ID = as a command in IPP - it's a declarative
property = only.

Mike and Smith - certainly we = should drop 1284 Device ID from IPP Everywhere,
which = is about driverless printing.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software = Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  = 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI = 49839  906-494-2434


On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 = AM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:

Hi Mike,

 

Where I believe some vendors use them = to send pre and post job processing device specific commands, I don=E2=80=99= t believe we should fully retire support for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s = at this time.

 

Are you = planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement?

 

Thanks.

 

Best Regards,

 

/Paul

--

Paul Tykodi
Principal Consultant
TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC

Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820
Mobile:  = 603-866-0712
E-mail:  ptykodi@tykodi.com
WWW:  http://www.tykodi.com

 

This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential = and may be privileged.

If you are not the intended recipient, please notify = Tykodi Consulting Services LLC

immediately by replying to this message and destroying = all copies of this message

and any attachments. Thank you

 

From: ipp = <ipp-bounces@pwg.org> On Behalf Of = Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec)
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM
To: Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements = from IPP Everywhere 1.1

 

I approve and second this!

 

Smith

/**
    Smith = Kennedy
    Wireless & Standards Architect - = IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / = Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/



On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael = Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

 

All,

As 1284 device IDs = are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd like remove all of the = 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1.

Thoughts?

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, = Senior Printing System Engineer

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

 


_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp



_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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Vendors who honored IEEE 1284 Device ID info over the much more authoritative IPP Printer status attributes have broken implementations anyway. I agree with Mike - delete all mention of IEEE 1284 Device ID from IPP Everywhere (with which it is incompatible). Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Paul Tykodi wrote: > Hi Ira, > > My thought is that some vendor developed IPP Everywhere implementations > may tweak PDF or JPEG processing on the client (i.e. sender) side for > certain 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s. > > If we make retiring them a two step process, we probably would give any > developers that have done this time to adjust their code. > > I am Ok with removing them from IPP Everywhere but am just asking about > best way to implement change so that developers have time to react. > > Best Regards, > > /Paul > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Ira McDonald wrote= : > > Hi, > > Paul - you can't submit a 1284 Device ID as a command in IPP - it's a > declarative > property only. > > Mike and Smith - certainly we should drop 1284 Device ID from IPP > Everywhere, > which is about driverless printing. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Jan-April: 579 Park Place > > Saline, MI > > 48176 > > 734 > > -944-0094 > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> >> >> Where I believe some vendors use them to send pre and post job processin= g >> device specific commands, I don=E2=80=99t believe we should fully retire= support >> for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s at this time. >> >> >> >> Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement? >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> >> /Paul >> >> -- >> >> Paul Tykodi >> Principal Consultant >> TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC >> >> Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820 >> Mobile: 603-866-0712 >> E-mail: ptykodi@tykodi.com >> WWW: http://www.tykodi.com >> >> >> >> This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential and may be >> privileged. >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi Consulting >> Services LLC >> >> immediately by replying to this message and destroying all copies of thi= s >> message >> >> and any attachments. Thank you >> >> >> >> *From:* ipp *On Behalf Of *Kennedy, Smith >> (Wireless & Standards Architec) >> *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM >> *To:* Michael Sweet >> *Cc:* PWG IPP WG Reflector >> *Subject:* Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP >> Everywhere 1.1 >> >> >> >> I approve and second this! >> >> >> >> Smith >> >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS >> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC >> Forum / USB-IF >> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >> HP Inc. >> */ >> >> >> >> On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >> >> >> >> All, >> >> As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd lik= e >> remove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> >> > --001a1142de9c074a5e056a0b6632 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Paul,

A= s Mike pointed out, using IEEE 1284 Device ID to do PDL-stream tweaks in IP= P Everywhere was
never a legitimate implementation.=C2=A0 Vendors = who honored IEEE 1284 Device ID info over the much
more authoritat= ive IPP Printer status attributes have broken implementations anyway.
I agree with Mike - delete all mention of IEEE 1284 Device ID from = IPP Everywhere (with which it
is incompatible).

Cheer= s,
- Ira



Ira McDonald = (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO = Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protoco= l WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music /= High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/sit= e/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/= site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place= =C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2= =A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434


On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Paul Tykodi= <ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:
Hi Ira,

My thought is that some ve= ndor developed IPP Everywhere implementations may tweak PDF or JPEG process= ing on the client (i.e. sender) side for certain 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s.<= /div>

If we make retiring them a two step process, we pr= obably would give any developers that have done this time to adjust their c= ode.

I am Ok with removing them from IPP Everywher= e but am just asking about best way to implement change so that developers = have time to react.

Best Regards,

/Paul

S= ent from my iPhone

On Apr 17, 2018, at= 6:35 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
=
Paul - you can't submit a 1284 Device ID as a command in IPP = - it's a declarative
property only.

Mike and Smit= h - certainly we should drop 1284 Device ID from IPP Everywhere,
w= hich is about driverless printing.

Cheers,
- Ira
<= br>

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Archit= ect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Found= ation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co= -Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Exp= ert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusichttp://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc=
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, M= I=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Gran= d Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

=

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi= <ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:

<= span style=3D"color:#203864">Hi Mike,

=C2=A0

Where I believe some vendo= rs use them to send pre and post job processing device specific commands, I= don=E2=80=99t believe we should fully retire support for the 1284 device I= D=E2=80=99s at this time.

=C2=A0

Are you planning to make them an OPTIO= NAL requirement?

=C2=A0

Thanks.

=C2=A0

Best Regards,<= /span>

=C2= =A0

/= Paul

--

Paul Ty= kodi
Principal Consultant
TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC
Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820
Mobile:=C2=A0 603-866-0712
E-mail:=C2=A0 ptykodi@tykodi.com
WWW:=C2=A0 http://www.tykodi.com

=C2=A0

Th= is e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged.=

If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi = Consulting Services LLC

immediately by replying to this mess= age and destroying all copies of this message

and any attach= ments. Thank you

=C2=A0

From: ipp &l= t;ipp-bounces@pwg.= org> On Behalf Of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Ar= chitec)
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM
To: Micha= el Sweet <msweet@a= pple.com>
Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [I= PP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1=

=C2=A0

I approve and se= cond this!

=C2=A0

<= span style=3D"color:black">Smith

/**
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy<= br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi=C2=A0Alliance / NFC F= orum / USB-IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 HP Inc.
*/



On Ap= r 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

=C2=A0

All,

As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver sel= ection, I'd like remove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP= Everywhere 1.1.

Thoughts?

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engin= eer

_______________________________________________
ipp mail= ing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

<= /div>

=C2=A0


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(ptykodi@tykodi.com@174.192.6.121) by 0 with ESMTPA; 17 Apr 2018 13:44:59 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Paul Tykodi X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (15E216) In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:44:58 -0400 Message-Id: <5C7F5945-5C82-47B0-9FE9-6FAD63F539CF@tykodi.com> References: <4A6C4BFD-8ACF-4305-9298-4F3BF6F35307@hp.com> <021201d3d62c$81297800$837c6800$@tykodi.com> To: Ira McDonald Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1 X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5772195997116857990==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5772195997116857990== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-57AB5BE3-C317-435E-BDD8-90AF280D611F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-57AB5BE3-C317-435E-BDD8-90AF280D611F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ira, If we remove the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1 and sub= sequently an IPP Everywhere 1.1 conforming client queries an IPP Everywhere 1= .0 conforming device, which returns a 1284 device ID, should the client just= ignore the 1284 device ID response? Thanks. Best Regards, /Paul Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Ira McDonald wrote:= >=20 > Hi Paul, >=20 > As Mike pointed out, using IEEE 1284 Device ID to do PDL-stream tweaks in I= PP Everywhere was > never a legitimate implementation. Vendors who honored IEEE 1284 Device I= D info over the much > more authoritative IPP Printer status attributes have broken implementatio= ns anyway. >=20 > I agree with Mike - delete all mention of IEEE 1284 Device ID from IPP Eve= rywhere (with which it > is incompatible). >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira >=20 >=20 >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 >=20 >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Paul Tykodi wrote: >> Hi Ira, >>=20 >> My thought is that some vendor developed IPP Everywhere implementations m= ay tweak PDF or JPEG processing on the client (i.e. sender) side for certain= 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s. >>=20 >> If we make retiring them a two step process, we probably would give any d= evelopers that have done this time to adjust their code. >>=20 >> I am Ok with removing them from IPP Everywhere but am just asking about b= est way to implement change so that developers have time to react. >>=20 >> Best Regards, >>=20 >> /Paul >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >>> On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Ira McDonald wrot= e: >>>=20 >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> Paul - you can't submit a 1284 Device ID as a command in IPP - it's a de= clarative >>> property only. >>>=20 >>> Mike and Smith - certainly we should drop 1284 Device ID from IPP Everyw= here, >>> which is about driverless printing. >>>=20 >>> Cheers, >>> - Ira >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >>> Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 >>> May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi wrote= : >>>> Hi Mike, >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Where I believe some vendors use them to send pre and post job processi= ng device specific commands, I don=E2=80=99t believe we should fully retire s= upport for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s at this time. >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement? >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks. >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Best Regards, >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> /Paul >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>>=20 >>>> Paul Tykodi >>>> Principal Consultant >>>> TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC >>>>=20 >>>> Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820 >>>> Mobile: 603-866-0712 >>>> E-mail: ptykodi@tykodi.com >>>> WWW: http://www.tykodi.com >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential and may be privi= leged. >>>>=20 >>>> If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi Consulting S= ervices LLC >>>>=20 >>>> immediately by replying to this message and destroying all copies of th= is message >>>>=20 >>>> and any attachments. Thank you >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> From: ipp On Behalf Of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless &= Standards Architec) >>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM >>>> To: Michael Sweet >>>> Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector >>>> Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Every= where 1.1 >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> I approve and second this! >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Smith >>>>=20 >>>> /** >>>> Smith Kennedy >>>> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS >>>> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Fo= rum / USB-IF >>>> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >>>> HP Inc. >>>> */ >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> All, >>>>=20 >>>> As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd li= ke remove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1. >>>>=20 >>>> Thoughts? >>>>=20 >>>> _________________________________________________________ >>>> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ipp mailing list >>>> ipp@pwg.org >>>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ipp mailing list >>>> ipp@pwg.org >>>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >>>>=20 >>>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-57AB5BE3-C317-435E-BDD8-90AF280D611F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ira,

If we remove the= 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1 and subsequently an IPP= Everywhere 1.1 conforming client queries an IPP Everywhere 1.0 conforming d= evice, which returns a 1284 device ID, should the client just ignore the 128= 4 device ID response?

Thanks.

<= div>Best Regards,

/Paul

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 17, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Ir= a McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmai= l.com> wrote:

Hi Paul,

As Mike point= ed out, using IEEE 1284 Device ID to do PDL-stream tweaks in IPP Everywhere w= as
never a legitimate implementation.  Vendors who honored IEE= E 1284 Device ID info over the much
more authoritative IPP Printer s= tatus attributes have broken implementations anyway.

I agree wi= th Mike - delete all mention of IEEE 1284 Device ID from IPP Everywhere (wit= h which it
is incompatible).

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Ar= chitect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Fo= undation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
= Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Ex= pert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto= : blueroofmusic= @gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176&nbs= p; 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  90= 6-494-2434


On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Paul Tykodi <= span dir=3D"ltr"><ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:
<= div dir=3D"auto">Hi Ira,

My thought is that some vendor d= eveloped IPP Everywhere implementations may tweak PDF or JPEG processing on t= he client (i.e. sender) side for certain 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s.

If we make retiring them a two step process, we probably wou= ld give any developers that have done this time to adjust their code.
<= div>
I am Ok with removing them from IPP Everywhere but am jus= t asking about best way to implement change so that developers have time to r= eact.

Best Regards,

/Paul<= br>
Sent from my iPho= ne

On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Ira McD= onald <bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Paul - you= can't submit a 1284 Device ID as a command in IPP - it's a declarative
<= /div>property only.

Mike and Smith - certainly we should drop 1= 284 Device ID from IPP Everywhere,
which is about driverless printi= ng.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobi= lity Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary -= IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printi= ng Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roo= f Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.= com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.g= oogle.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: <= a href=3D"https://maps.google.com/?q=3D579+Park+Place+Saline,+MI+48176+734&a= mp;entry=3Dgmail&source=3Dg">579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176<= /a>  734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO B= ox 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434


On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi <= span dir=3D"ltr"><ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:
<= div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US">

Hi Mike,

 

Where I believe some vendors use the= m to send pre and post job processing device specific commands, I don=E2=80=99= t believe we should fully retire support for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s at= this time.

 

Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement?<= u>

 

Thanks.

 

Best Regards,

 

/Paul

=

--

Paul Tykodi
Principal Consultant
TCS= - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC

Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820
Mobile:&nb= sp; 603-866-0712
E-mail:  ptykodi@tykodi.com
WWW= :  <= span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">http://www.tykodi.co= m

 

This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidenti= al and may be privileged.

If you are not the intended recipient,= please notify Tykodi Consulting Services LLC

immediately by re= plying to this message and destroying all copies of this message <= /u>

and any attachments. Thank you

 

From:= ipp <ipp-bo= unces@pwg.org> On Behalf Of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Sta= ndards Architec)
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM
To: Michael Sweet <m= sweet@apple.com>
Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: R= e: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1

 

I approve and s= econd this!

 

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy    Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
   = Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum= / USB-IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
  &= nbsp; HP Inc.
*/

<= p class=3D"MsoNormal">

On Apr 16, 2018, a= t 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

 

All,
As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd like r= emove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1.
Thoughts?

_____________________________________________________= ____
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

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boundary="===============8588396594276763084==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8588396594276763084== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yuE+6pK/houP42/KqpDs3g)" --Boundary_(ID_yuE+6pK/houP42/KqpDs3g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Paul, Yes, absolutely it ignores it, just as it will ignore any other = attribute it doesn't care about. An IPP Everywhere client looks at the document-format-supported, = media-xxx, and pwg-raster-document-xxx attributes to know what to send, = *not* printer-device-id. > On Apr 17, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Paul Tykodi wrote: >=20 > Hi Ira, >=20 > If we remove the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1 = and subsequently an IPP Everywhere 1.1 conforming client queries an IPP = Everywhere 1.0 conforming device, which returns a 1284 device ID, should = the client just ignore the 1284 device ID response? >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > Best Regards, >=20 > /Paul >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Apr 17, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Ira McDonald > wrote: >=20 >> Hi Paul, >>=20 >> As Mike pointed out, using IEEE 1284 Device ID to do PDL-stream = tweaks in IPP Everywhere was >> never a legitimate implementation. Vendors who honored IEEE 1284 = Device ID info over the much >> more authoritative IPP Printer status attributes have broken = implementations anyway. >>=20 >> I agree with Mike - delete all mention of IEEE 1284 Device ID from = IPP Everywhere (with which it >> is incompatible). >>=20 >> Cheers, >> - Ira >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic = >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc = >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 >> May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Paul Tykodi > wrote: >> Hi Ira, >>=20 >> My thought is that some vendor developed IPP Everywhere = implementations may tweak PDF or JPEG processing on the client (i.e. = sender) side for certain 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s. >>=20 >> If we make retiring them a two step process, we probably would give = any developers that have done this time to adjust their code. >>=20 >> I am Ok with removing them from IPP Everywhere but am just asking = about best way to implement change so that developers have time to = react. >>=20 >> Best Regards, >>=20 >> /Paul >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >> On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Ira McDonald > wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> Paul - you can't submit a 1284 Device ID as a command in IPP - it's = a declarative >>> property only. >>>=20 >>> Mike and Smith - certainly we should drop 1284 Device ID from IPP = Everywhere, >>> which is about driverless printing. >>>=20 >>> Cheers, >>> - Ira >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic = >>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc = >>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >>> Jan-April: 579 Park Place = Saline, MI = 48176 = 734 = -944-0094 >>> May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi > wrote: >>> Hi Mike, >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> Where I believe some vendors use them to send pre and post job = processing device specific commands, I don=E2=80=99t believe we should = fully retire support for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s at this time. >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement? >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> Thanks. >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> Best Regards, >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> /Paul >>>=20 >>> -- >>>=20 >>> Paul Tykodi >>> Principal Consultant >>> TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC >>>=20 >>> Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820 >>> Mobile: 603-866-0712 >>> E-mail: ptykodi@tykodi.com >>> WWW: http://www.tykodi.com >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential and may be = privileged. >>>=20 >>> If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi = Consulting Services LLC >>>=20 >>> immediately by replying to this message and destroying all copies of = this message >>>=20 >>> and any attachments. Thank you >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> From: ipp > On = Behalf Of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) >>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM >>> To: Michael Sweet > >>> Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector > >>> Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP = Everywhere 1.1 >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> I approve and second this! >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> Smith >>>=20 >>> /** >>> Smith Kennedy >>> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS >>> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF >>> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >>> HP Inc. >>> */ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet > wrote: >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> All, >>>=20 >>> As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd = like remove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere = 1.1. >>>=20 >>> Thoughts? >>>=20 >>> _________________________________________________________ >>> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ipp mailing list >>> ipp@pwg.org >>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >>> =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ipp mailing list >>> ipp@pwg.org >>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_yuE+6pK/houP42/KqpDs3g) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Paul,

Yes, = absolutely it ignores it, just as it will ignore any other attribute it = doesn't care about.

An IPP Everywhere client looks at the = document-format-supported, media-xxx, and pwg-raster-document-xxx = attributes to know what to send, *not* printer-device-id.


On = Apr 17, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi@tykodi.com> = wrote:

Hi Ira,

If we remove the 1284 device ID = requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1 and subsequently an IPP Everywhere = 1.1 conforming client queries an IPP Everywhere 1.0 conforming device, = which returns a 1284 device ID, should the client just ignore the 1284 = device ID response?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

/Paul

Sent from = my iPhone

On Apr 17, 2018, at 9:34 = AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Paul,

As Mike pointed = out, using IEEE 1284 Device ID to do PDL-stream tweaks in IPP Everywhere = was
never a legitimate implementation.  Vendors = who honored IEEE 1284 Device ID info over the much
more authoritative IPP Printer status attributes have = broken implementations anyway.

I = agree with Mike - delete all mention of IEEE 1284 Device ID from IPP = Everywhere (with which it
is incompatible).

Cheers,
- Ira



Ira McDonald (Musician / Software = Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  = 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI = 49839  906-494-2434


On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:17 = AM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:
Hi Ira,

My = thought is that some vendor developed IPP Everywhere implementations may = tweak PDF or JPEG processing on the client (i.e. sender) side for = certain 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s.

If we make retiring them a two step = process, we probably would give any developers that have done this time = to adjust their code.

I am Ok with removing them from IPP Everywhere but am just = asking about best way to implement change so that developers have time = to react.

Best = Regards,

/Paul

Sent from my = iPhone

On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Paul - you can't submit a 1284 Device ID = as a command in IPP - it's a declarative
property = only.

Mike and Smith - certainly we = should drop 1284 Device ID from IPP Everywhere,
which = is about driverless printing.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software = Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  = 906-494-2434


On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 = AM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:

Hi Mike,

 

Where I believe some vendors use them = to send pre and post job processing device specific commands, I don=E2=80=99= t believe we should fully retire support for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s = at this time.

 

Are you = planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement?

 

Thanks.

 

Best Regards,

 

/Paul

--

Paul Tykodi
Principal Consultant
TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC

Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820
Mobile:  = 603-866-0712
E-mail:  ptykodi@tykodi.com
WWW:  http://www.tykodi.com

 

This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential = and may be privileged.

If you are not the intended recipient, please notify = Tykodi Consulting Services LLC

immediately by replying to this message and destroying = all copies of this message

and any attachments. Thank you

 

From: ipp = <ipp-bounces@pwg.org> On Behalf Of = Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec)
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM
To: Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements = from IPP Everywhere 1.1

 

I = approve and second this!

 

Smith

/**
  =   Smith Kennedy
    Wireless & = Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
    Standards - = IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / = USB-IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working = Group
    HP Inc.
*/



On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael = Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

 

All,

As 1284 device IDs = are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd like remove all of the = 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1.

Thoughts?

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, = Senior Printing System Engineer

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

 


_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp




_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Paul, ANY optional attribute can be returned by an IPP Printer from ANY IETF or PWG IPP spec. IPP Everywhere is a *profile* of IPP, not a *version*. If an IPP Client is so out-of-date to parse and use the PDL identifiers in an IEEE 1284 Device ID string, then it's a poor implementation anyway. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Paul Tykodi wrote: > Hi Ira, > > If we remove the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1 and > subsequently an IPP Everywhere 1.1 conforming client queries an IPP > Everywhere 1.0 conforming device, which returns a 1284 device ID, should > the client just ignore the 1284 device ID response? > > Thanks. > > Best Regards, > > /Paul > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 17, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Ira McDonald wrote= : > > Hi Paul, > > As Mike pointed out, using IEEE 1284 Device ID to do PDL-stream tweaks in > IPP Everywhere was > never a legitimate implementation. Vendors who honored IEEE 1284 Device > ID info over the much > more authoritative IPP Printer status attributes have broken > implementations anyway. > > I agree with Mike - delete all mention of IEEE 1284 Device ID from IPP > Everywhere (with which it > is incompatible). > > Cheers, > - Ira > > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Jan-April: 579 Park Place > > Saline, MI > > 48176 > > 734 > > -944-0094 > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Paul Tykodi wrote: > >> Hi Ira, >> >> My thought is that some vendor developed IPP Everywhere implementations >> may tweak PDF or JPEG processing on the client (i.e. sender) side for >> certain 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s. >> >> If we make retiring them a two step process, we probably would give any >> developers that have done this time to adjust their code. >> >> I am Ok with removing them from IPP Everywhere but am just asking about >> best way to implement change so that developers have time to react. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> /Paul >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Ira McDonald >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Paul - you can't submit a 1284 Device ID as a command in IPP - it's a >> declarative >> property only. >> >> Mike and Smith - certainly we should drop 1284 Device ID from IPP >> Everywhere, >> which is about driverless printing. >> >> Cheers, >> - Ira >> >> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> Jan-April: 579 Park Place >> >> Saline, MI >> >> 48176 >> >> 734 >> >> -944-0094 >> May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> >>> >>> Where I believe some vendors use them to send pre and post job >>> processing device specific commands, I don=E2=80=99t believe we should = fully retire >>> support for the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s at this time. >>> >>> >>> >>> Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> /Paul >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Paul Tykodi >>> Principal Consultant >>> TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC >>> >>> Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820 >>> Mobile: 603-866-0712 >>> E-mail: ptykodi@tykodi.com >>> WWW: http://www.tykodi.com >>> >>> >>> >>> This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential and may be >>> privileged. >>> >>> If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi Consulting >>> Services LLC >>> >>> immediately by replying to this message and destroying all copies of >>> this message >>> >>> and any attachments. Thank you >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* ipp *On Behalf Of *Kennedy, Smith >>> (Wireless & Standards Architec) >>> *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM >>> *To:* Michael Sweet >>> *Cc:* PWG IPP WG Reflector >>> *Subject:* Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP >>> Everywhere 1.1 >>> >>> >>> >>> I approve and second this! >>> >>> >>> >>> Smith >>> >>> /** >>> Smith Kennedy >>> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS >>> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC >>> Forum / USB-IF >>> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >>> HP Inc. >>> */ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> All, >>> >>> As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd >>> like remove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere = 1.1. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> _________________________________________________________ >>> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ipp mailing list >>> ipp@pwg.org >>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ipp mailing list >>> ipp@pwg.org >>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >>> >>> >> > --001a1145b2d84273fe056a0ba3df Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Paul,

ANY op= tional attribute can be returned by an IPP Printer from ANY IETF or PWG IPP= spec.
IPP Everywhere is a *profile* of IPP, not a *version*.
<= br>
If an IPP Client is so out-of-date to parse and use the PDL identi= fiers in an IEEE 1284
Device ID string, then it's a poor imple= mentation anyway.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira= McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobilit= y Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - = IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printi= ng Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Ro= of Music / High North Inc
http://sites.goog= le.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.g= oogle.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 = Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO B= ox 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434


On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Paul Tykodi= <ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:
Hi Ira,

If we remove the 1284 devi= ce ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1 and subsequently an IPP Everywhe= re 1.1 conforming client queries an IPP Everywhere 1.0 conforming device, w= hich returns a 1284 device ID, should the client just ignore the 1284 devic= e ID response?

Thanks.

Be= st Regards,

/Paul

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 17, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Ira McDonald = <blueroofmu= sic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Paul,

As = Mike pointed out, using IEEE 1284 Device ID to do PDL-stream tweaks in IPP = Everywhere was
never a legitimate implementation.=C2=A0 Vendors wh= o honored IEEE 1284 Device ID info over the much
more authoritativ= e IPP Printer status attributes have broken implementations anyway.

=
I agree with Mike - delete all mention of IEEE 1284 Device ID from IP= P Everywhere (with which it
is incompatible).

Cheers,=
- Ira



Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Paul Tykodi= <ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:
Hi Ira,

My thought is that some ve= ndor developed IPP Everywhere implementations may tweak PDF or JPEG process= ing on the client (i.e. sender) side for certain 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s.<= /div>

If we make retiring them a two step process, we pr= obably would give any developers that have done this time to adjust their c= ode.

I am Ok with removing them from IPP Everywher= e but am just asking about best way to implement change so that developers = have time to react.

Best Regards,

/Paul

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.c= om> wrote:

Hi,

Paul - you can't sub= mit a 1284 Device ID as a command in IPP - it's a declarative
= property only.

Mike and Smith - certainly we should drop 1284 = Device ID from IPP Everywhere,
which is about driverless printing.=

Cheers,
- Ira


<= div>
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Cha= ir - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Pri= nting WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-= ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi= <ptykodi@tykodi.com> wrote:

Hi Mike,

=C2=A0

Where = I believe some vendors use them to send pre and post job processing device = specific commands, I don=E2=80=99t believe we should fully retire support f= or the 1284 device ID=E2=80=99s at this time.

=C2=A0=

Are you planning t= o make them an OPTIONAL requirement?

=C2=A0

Thanks.

=C2=A0<= /u>

Best Reg= ards,

=C2=A0

/Paul

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From: ipp <ipp-bounces@pwg.org> On Behalf Of Kennedy, Smith (Wireles= s & Standards Architec)
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM=
To: Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector <= ;ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Ever= ywhere 1.1

=C2=A0

I approve and second this!

=C2=A0

Smith
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boundary="===============6743539018307550536==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6743539018307550536== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_215EE411-A086-4EDF-835D-9EF9F4A24B34"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_215EE411-A086-4EDF-835D-9EF9F4A24B34 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_85C9FD7D-7939-4D7E-8284-8713A1706C82" --Apple-Mail=_85C9FD7D-7939-4D7E-8284-8713A1706C82 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Mike and Ira, Can we prioritize reviewing this draft in next week's IPP WG meeting? I = think there are some partners that would very much like to contribute to = its development and learn more about it. Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ > On Apr 16, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > All, >=20 > I have posted an updated interim draft of the "Safe G-Code Subset for = 3D Printing" white paper to: >=20 > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180416.docx > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180416.pdf > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180416-rev.pdf >=20 > This draft addresses feedback and adds registrations of IPP attributes = and a MIME media type. >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --Apple-Mail=_85C9FD7D-7939-4D7E-8284-8713A1706C82 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = Mike and Ira,

Can we = prioritize reviewing this draft in next week's IPP WG meeting? I think = there are some partners that would very much like to contribute to its = development and learn more about it.

Smith

/**
  =   Smith Kennedy
    Wireless & = Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
    Standards - = IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / = USB-IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working = Group
    HP Inc.
*/



On Apr 16, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:

All,

I have posted an updated = interim draft of the "Safe G-Code Subset for 3D Printing" white paper = to:

https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180416= .docx
= https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180416.pdf=
= https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180416-rev= .pdf

This draft addresses feedback and adds = registrations of IPP attributes and a MIME media type.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

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<27AEAFC6-A956-463E-B0BD-5FA5587DB11B@hp.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 09:12:32 -0400 Message-id: <15FE69B4-6388-4E65-92CC-4D826A48761D@apple.com> References: <86CF693A-E18F-4E70-A173-A14225368B7D@apple.com> <27AEAFC6-A956-463E-B0BD-5FA5587DB11B@hp.com> To: Smith Kennedy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrPLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FCYpuukez/KYFqqxa/nH5ksju17yWLx qmsXswOzx65tO5k85i2ezhTAFMVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CV8Wr7JJaCh7wVNy9uZ2pgnMPdxcjJ ISFgInHxw2rmLkYuDiGBNUwSK29MZoRJ/J76hwUisYFJYvb3ZWAJXgFBiR+T7wElODiYBeQl Dp6XBQkzC2hJfH/UClXfzyTxc810VpCEsICExPH+hVC2pcTH11PYQWw2ATWJ35P6wOKcAlYS a2/NB4uzCKhK7F1+kg1iaKhE77mpTBB7bSTmndwOFhcSyJG423CUBcQWEdCQ+DClmQ3iaCWJ /7uOgH0jIdDBJjF93Q/2CYzCs5DcPQvh7llI7l7AyLyKUSg3MTNHNzPPSC+xoCAnVS85P3cT IyjEp9sJ7mA8vsrqEKMAB6MSD++P33ejhFgTy4orcw8xSnOwKInz9lffihISSE8sSc1OTS1I LYovKs1JLT7EyMTBKdXAOLu6P3V/hu3ytjsJV0o/vNDreb2RR6YnPXaKkottfq3bssjNgSp+ hpOkNpS1rvzusL7/8P9aO51vQsYKzvOFQqQXt75K5DZfwGuRxZiQWvnXdeP8VVE30n5aR7w+ 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X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Smith, I don't see why not; the other item we need to review are the slides for the F2F... (I'll be posting them today or tomorrow...) > On Apr 19, 2018, at 3:43 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > > Hi Mike and Ira, > > Can we prioritize reviewing this draft in next week's IPP WG meeting? I think there are some partners that would very much like to contribute to its development and learn more about it. > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > >> On Apr 16, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >> >> All, >> >> I have posted an updated interim draft of the "Safe G-Code Subset for 3D Printing" white paper to: >> >> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180416.docx >> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180416.pdf >> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180416-rev.pdf >> >> This draft addresses feedback and adds registrations of IPP attributes and a MIME media type. >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Apr 24 12:02:34 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE9012D7EC for ; 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boundary="===============4468502541616645068==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4468502541616645068== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6D416A56-F4DE-449E-B983-33D9A271AB8A"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_6D416A56-F4DE-449E-B983-33D9A271AB8A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, I have just posted an updated draft of IPP Reprint Password for review: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippreprintpwd-20180424.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippreprintpwd-20180424.odt https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippreprintpwd-20180424-rev.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippreprintpwd-20180424-rev.odt Changes include: * Re-authored using the new PWG Working Draft template for Apache = OpenOffice, moving away from LibreOffice due to interoperability issues. * Adopted changes recommended in the April 12, 2018 IPP WG meeting: = Returned to the =E2=80=9Cjob-password=E2=80=9D / = =E2=80=9Cjob-password-encryption=E2=80=9D attribute set design pattern = from the =E2=80=9Cxxx-accesses=E2=80=9D attribute set design pattern. The new template seems to work well in both Apache OpenOffice and = LibreOffice. I will post OO templates soon too. 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missing from IANA Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0388900101434662077==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0388900101434662077== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8CC85933-9C55-4C3E-BC5F-0741D2B39A5B"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_8CC85933-9C55-4C3E-BC5F-0741D2B39A5B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, I was looking in the IANA Service Name and Transport Protocol Port = Number Registry for something and discovered that "ipps" is not listed = as a registered service name. Shouldn't it be listed here even though = the port is the same as "ipp"? > = https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-= port-numbers.xml Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ --Apple-Mail=_8CC85933-9C55-4C3E-BC5F-0741D2B39A5B Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEX4TM/E2Pr7lTZzy2qskbKLDW1N0FAlrfjqYACgkQqskbKLDW 1N2Z1A//cStVGSG81ZtC4aawS1ZHj0eQupjNtIrbkZJGCeGVKdD8Y7x8zhxr4Xiy aqMLUcPS6UieYdAWHisfL6RXsN8gR76NPUeIaIBSPQPVcE7HIL2tY0r2dluDvi5P z8kGdy2hgfFNd5iuotVRcAuqlr+YXuewfsbgsTKPAdT40YRLo7gYVMd8YTD9Shsn TLakVWxl2KLzFniN3pjuhl8JnuoyKjR0nNVpsIn2fvOyaR2s3I8WmvjVFco7Ly1d /Drlw9zIUNF+PENyU+18NoKz2DFHyrufpEY5pF/c9HXWvBBg/L0cLRpvs0RY0hU/ 9eWGu3aZzZqWwDaajLOD/mFYkRNsU9bFuS8KThYY0U6HW4bYrPSGoFluht8jwf0E 32s0cdRqA8uZ3guRJ425f60hi0lxnV434sdW9tPPBqoRwfOBRtAjSO3PsS9daZhF 18KiZLk4tmAnhEuEzIqKYRygg5GPMCR266RBIhomva4gn4d14vyeuhGVqP6PNma6 rw6LYTwS6luUYwNp+sv1Be/d6DEOr2Qlvr4zt/GfvD8NqgLu1vWkIYKpti38HgBY jm6UcQhNML1/2IV4LK7R+ZQFDuDS4ICJ0a5h2MPLcdaNBs4nd2YEjNP+n47HGK49 J65ByZQYGSEosk2UBGUUPTfRc03z5KKQA+WAdQv2vpwfpWGKQz4= =BZ+6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_8CC85933-9C55-4C3E-BC5F-0741D2B39A5B-- --===============0388900101434662077== Content-Type: text/plain; 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boundary="===============3388691780724974163==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3388691780724974163== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_P51E+axcjGb1GXUVbTPhMA)" --Boundary_(ID_P51E+axcjGb1GXUVbTPhMA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Smith, Probably, will send a request to IANA later today to see what's up with that... :/ > On Apr 24, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > > Greetings, > > I was looking in the IANA Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry for something and discovered that "ipps" is not listed as a registered service name. Shouldn't it be listed here even though the port is the same as "ipp"? >> https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.xml > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_P51E+axcjGb1GXUVbTPhMA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Smith,

Probably, will send a request to IANA later today to see = what's up with that... :/


On Apr = 24, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) = <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Greetings,

I was looking in the = IANA Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry for = something and discovered that "ipps" is not listed as a registered = service name. Shouldn't it be listed here even though the port is the = same as "ipp"?
https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/ser= vice-names-port-numbers.xml

Smith

/**
=    Smith Kennedy
=    Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
   Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG = / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
=    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
=    HP Inc.
*/



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boundary="===============1034267109172583638==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1034267109172583638== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_AF016F46-B0B2-4407-85BC-F18039B76F2C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_AF016F46-B0B2-4407-85BC-F18039B76F2C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_48D280ED-6362-49E2-9590-BB0D8658DE6F" --Apple-Mail=_48D280ED-6362-49E2-9590-BB0D8658DE6F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thank you! > On Apr 24, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > Smith, >=20 > Probably, will send a request to IANA later today to see what's up = with that... :/ >=20 >=20 >> On Apr 24, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) > wrote: >>=20 >> Greetings, >>=20 >> I was looking in the IANA Service Name and Transport Protocol Port = Number Registry for something and discovered that "ipps" is not listed = as a registered service name. Shouldn't it be listed here even though = the port is the same as "ipp"? >>> = https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-= port-numbers.xml = >>=20 >> Smith >>=20 >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS >> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF >> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >> HP Inc. >> */ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 --Apple-Mail=_48D280ED-6362-49E2-9590-BB0D8658DE6F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Thank= you!


On Apr 24, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:

Smith,

Probably, will send a request to IANA later today to see = what's up with that... :/


On Apr 24, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & = Standards Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Greetings,

I was looking in the = IANA Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry for = something and discovered that "ipps" is not listed as a registered = service name. Shouldn't it be listed here even though the port is the = same as "ipp"?
https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/ser= vice-names-port-numbers.xml

Smith

/**
=    Smith Kennedy
=    Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
   Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG = / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
=    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
=    HP Inc.
*/



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boundary="===============2569775432875695858==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============2569775432875695858== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_nMIcElelGTAKgapBgikq5A)" --Boundary_(ID_nMIcElelGTAKgapBgikq5A) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Smith, I've sent in a new request for IPPS and a modification request for IPP, naming the PWG as owner with the "chair" address, and me as the technical contact... > On Apr 24, 2018, at 4:14 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > > Thank you! > > >> On Apr 24, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Michael Sweet > wrote: >> >> Smith, >> >> Probably, will send a request to IANA later today to see what's up with that... :/ >> >> >>> On Apr 24, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) > wrote: >>> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> I was looking in the IANA Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry for something and discovered that "ipps" is not listed as a registered service name. Shouldn't it be listed here even though the port is the same as "ipp"? >>>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.xml >>> >>> Smith >>> >>> /** >>> Smith Kennedy >>> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS >>> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF >>> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >>> HP Inc. >>> */ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ipp mailing list >>> ipp@pwg.org >>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >> > _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_nMIcElelGTAKgapBgikq5A) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Smith,

I've= sent in a new request for IPPS and a modification request for IPP, = naming the PWG as owner with the "chair" address, and me as the = technical contact...


On Apr = 24, 2018, at 4:14 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) = <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Thank you!


On Apr 24, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Michael Sweet = <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

Smith,

Probably, will send a request to IANA later today to see = what's up with that... :/


On Apr 24, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & = Standards Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Greetings,

I was looking in the = IANA Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry for = something and discovered that "ipps" is not listed as a registered = service name. Shouldn't it be listed here even though the port is the = same as "ipp"?
https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/ser= vice-names-port-numbers.xml

Smith

/**
=    Smith Kennedy
=    Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
   Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG = / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF
=    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
=    HP Inc.
*/



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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 26 April 2018 at 12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Topic: IPP WG Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date 3:00 pm | Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00) | 1 hr 30 mins ------------------------------------------------------- WebEx online meeting (join first, before audio bridge) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm0359478143 ca01e059a570ada91f3573 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". ------------------------------------------------------- Audio Bridge (join second w/ unique access code from WebEx) ------------------------------------------------------- Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239 <%28866%29%20469-3239= > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300 <%28650%29%20429-3300> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570 <%28408%29%20856-9570> Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio options ("Call Me Back" or VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting. Unique attendee access code: Displayed in the WebEx meeting Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, Roll Call, and Agenda Review - Mike as minute taker? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180412.pdf -- IPP WG call on 04/12/18 (3) Status/Review of various IPP mailing list notes - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019565.html -- RFC 8010 section 3.3 question - DEFERRED until after IPP/1.1 Standard - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019572.html -- Drop 1284 Device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1 - RESOLVED - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019587.html -- "ipps" missing from IANA Svc Name and TP Port Number Registry - IN PROGRESS (4) Status of Open Printing WG GSoC 2018 (Ira) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019511.html -- DONE - 4 January to 23 January - Mentor organization applications -- DONE - 23 January - 11 February - GSoC reviews mentor org applications -- DONE - 12 February - GSoC approves mentoring organizations -- DONE - 12 February to 12 March - Students discuss GSoC projects -- DONE - 12 to 27 March - Students apply for GSoC projects -- DONE - 23 April - GSoC approves projects and Students - 14 May - GSoC coding begins (5) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20180315.htm -- see PWG SC minutes of 03/15/18 -- deferred until Paul returns from AMSC conference (6) Status/Review of Safe G-Code (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-safe-gcode-20180416-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019570.html -- Interim draft for future IPP WG review -- Schedule - TBD (7) Status/Review of IPP F2F Slides (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-may-18d1.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019592.html -- draft for future IPP WG review (8) Status of How to Print Using the IPP (Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20180207.pdf =E2=81=83 https://github.com/istopwg/pwg-books -- IPP WG edits during PWG Virtual F2F on 02/07/18 -- Current HTML draft available in Github repository -- Schedule - TBD (9) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20180123-rev.pdf -- Interim draft - PWG Virtual F2F review on 02/08/18 -- Schedule - TBD (10) Status of IPP Encrypted Jobs and Documents - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrustnoone10-20180328-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019539.html -- Interim draft - for future IPP WG review -- Schedule - TBD (11) Status/Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20180425-rev.pdf - https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/projects/1 -- Prototype draft - for future IPP WG review -- Prototyping tasks being tracked as a Github project -- Schedule - prototype in "ippserver" - Stable draft in Q2/Q3 2018 (12) Status of IPP Privacy Attributes (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/registrations/reg-ippprivacy10-20180412.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019564.html -- IPP WG Approved on 04/12/18 - PUBLISHED (13) Status/Review of IPP Reprint Password (Smith) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippreprintpwd-20180424-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019586.html -- Interim draft - for future IPP WG review -- Schedule - TBD (14) Status of IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification 1.0 Update 3? - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180329.pdf -- Goals, ipptool and ippfind updates -- Schedule - TBD (15) Status/Review of IPP Everywhere 1.1 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20180417-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019583.html -- Interim draft - for future IPP WG review -- Schedule - Q2/Q3 2018 (16) Status/Review of IPP Everywhere 1.1 Self-Certification Manual 1.1 - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert11-20180404-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019552.html -- Interim draft - for future IPP WG review -- Schedule - Q2/Q3 2018 (17) Next steps - IPP WG call on Thu 26 April 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- regular topics - IPP WG call on Thu 10 May 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- slides for Joint PWG/OP F2F in Sunnyvale, CA - IPP WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wed/Thu 16-17 May -- Joint PWG/OP F2F in Sunnyvale, CA Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --0000000000007b20f5056ab2ad08 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 26 April 2018 at
12:00-1:30pm US Pacifi= c / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern

NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below

------------------------------------------------------= -
Meeting information
------------------------------------------= -------------
Topic: IPP= WG
Every 2= weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date
3:00 pm= =C2=A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A0Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00)=C2=A0= =C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A01 hr 30 mins

---------------------------------------= ----------------
WebEx online meeting (join first, before audio bridge)
-----------------= --------------------------------------
1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID= =3Dm0359478143ca01e059a570ada91f3573
2. If requested, enter you= r name and email address.
3. If a password is required, enter the meetin= g password: Printing123
4. Click "Join".

--------------= -----------------------------------------
Audio Bridge (join second w/ unique access co= de from WebEx)
---------------------------------------------= ----------
Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-32= 39
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300
Call-i= n toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570

Global toll-free call in numbers and other au= dio options ("Call Me Back" or VoIP) are listed once you join the= WebEx meeting.

Unique attendee access code:=C2=A0 Displayed in the = WebEx meeting

Agenda<= /span>:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, Roll Call, and <= span class=3D"gmail-m_-3552494186533607003gmail-m_-450012683051888877gmail-= m_-7158819093852740809gmail-m_-5208763249917800182gmail-m_83325582192628671= 78gmail-m_-435562576303993954gmail-m_-5923257778772754391gmail-il">Agenda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings<= br>
(3) Status/Review of various IPP mailing list notes
-- RFC 8010 section 3.3 question - DEFERRED until after IPP/1.= 1 Standard
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019572.html
-- Drop 128= 4 Device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1 - RESOLVED
- http://www.pwg.org/archi= ves/ipp/2018/019587.html
-- "ipps" missing from IANA Svc N= ame and TP Port Number Registry - IN PROGRESS

(4) St= atus of Open Printing WG GSoC 2018 (Ira)
-- DONE - = 4 January to 23 January - Mentor organization applications
-- DONE - 23 = January - 11 February - GSoC reviews mentor org applications
-- DONE - 1= 2 February - GSoC approves mentoring organizations
-- DONE - 12 February to 12 March - Students d= iscuss GSoC projects
-- DONE - 12 to 27 March - Students apply for GSoC projects
-- DONE - 23 April - GSoC approves projects and Students
- 1= 4 May - GSoC coding begins

(5) Stat= us of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul)
-- see PWG SC minutes of=20 03/15/18
-- deferred until Paul returns from AMSC conference<= br>

-- Interim draft for= future IPP WG review
-- Schedule - TBD

--=20 draft for future IPP WG review

(8) Status of=20 How to Print Using the IPP (Mike)
-- IPP WG edits during=20 PWG Virtual F2F on 02/07/18
-- Current HTML draft available in Github re= pository
-- Schedule - TBD

(9) Status of <= span class=3D"gmail-m_-3552494186533607003gmail-m_-450012683051888877gmail-= m_-7158819093852740809gmail-m_-5208763249917800182gmail-m_83325582192628671= 78gmail-m_-435562576303993954gmail-m_-5923257778772754391gmail-m_-574811705= 2203830036gmail-m_-8191856010333525718gmail-m_8744592929867059171gmail-il">= IPP HTTP Authenticati= on whitepaper (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/= pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20180123-rev.pdf
=
--=20 Interim draft -=20 PWG Virtual F2F review on 02/08/18
-- Schedule - TBD

(10) Status of IPP Encrypted Jobs and Docum= ents
- https://ftp.pwg.org/= pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrustnoone10-20180328-rev.pdf
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019539.html-- Interim draft - for future IPP WG review
-= - Schedule - TBD

(11) Status/Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)
- https= ://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20180425-rev.pdf
- h= ttps://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/projects/1
-- Prototype dra= ft=20 -=20 for future IPP WG review
-- Prototyping tasks being tracked as a Github project
-- Schedule -= prototype in "ippserver" - Stable draft in Q2/Q3 2018


- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2018/019586.html-- Interim draft -=20 for future IPP WG review
-- Schedule - TBD

(14) Status of IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification 1.0= Update 3?
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180329.pdf
-- = Goals, ipptool and ippfind updates
--=20 Schedule - TBD

(15) Status/Review of IPP Everywher= e 1.1 (Mike)
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-= ippeve11-20180417-rev.pdf
- http://www.pwg.org/archiv= es/ipp/2018/019583.html
-- Interim draft -=20 for future IPP WG review
-- Schedule - Q2/Q3 2018

(16) Status/Review of IPP Everyw= here 1.1 Self-Certification Manual 1.1
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp= eveselfcert11-20180404-rev.pdf

- IPP WG call on Thu 26 April 2018 at 3:00-= 4:30pm US Eastern
-- regular topics

- IPP WG call on Thu 10 May 2018 at 3:00-4:= 30pm US Eastern
-- slides for Joint PWG/OP F2F in Sunnyvale, CA



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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted the minutes from today's IPP workgroup conference call to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20180426.pdf Our next meetings are at the PWG F2F on May 15-17, 2018. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Apr 26 16:31:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC8412D82F for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2018 16:31:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.795 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.795 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted an initial draft of the IPP 3D Printing Extensions v1.1 to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d11-20180426.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d11-20180426.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d11-20180426-rev.pdf This is the start of an errata process to address known issues in the 1.0 spec, including: - Lack of a layered format for printers that cannot do their own slicing - Attributes necessary to allow clients and cloud/infrastructure services to produce an intermediate sliced format for a printer. - The platform-shape attribute (previous registered by Apple). - Discussion points for material types that are defined by other standards bodies. - Updates to referenced specifications. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Apr 26 16:33:07 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB55E12D86A for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted an interim draft of the PWG Safe G-Code for 3D Printing best practice to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgsafegcode10-20180426.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgsafegcode10-20180426.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgsafegcode10-20180426-rev.pdf This document has now been adopted by the IPP workgroup as a Best Practice and will be referenced by the 1.1 update of the IPP 3D Printing Extensions specification. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Apr 30 08:20:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DC9126B7E for ; 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boundary="===============2945010311898622589==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============2945010311898622589== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3E73FCB8-878F-4CB4-ABFC-9938B0507733"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_3E73FCB8-878F-4CB4-ABFC-9938B0507733 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, I have posted an updated draft of "IPP Authentication Methods" for = review and possible discussion at the May 2018 F2F in two weeks. It is = here: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20180430.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20180430.odt = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20180430-rev.pdf = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20180430-rev.odt Changes include: Changed to Apache OpenOffice template. Added Mike Sweet as a co-author = since he has contributed a great deal of content to the document. = Resolved all =E2=80=9Cto-do=E2=80=9D highlighted areas and resolved = issues identified in the February 2018 vF2F minutes = (https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20180207.pdf): =E2=80=A2 Added sequence diagram for X.509 client authentication =E2=80=A2 Added sequence diagram for hybrid 'oauth' / 'digest' = authentication =E2=80=A2 Many other changes I think we'd like to get closure on this, so if there are any technical = issues with the assertions made in this document, please offer feedback = but I'd also welcome contributions that resolve the areas of ambiguity. 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