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Fri, 01 Feb 2019 08:00:39 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Sweet Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 11:00:37 -0500 To: PWG Workgroup Message-id: <2BCB957C-B37C-45EC-9663-D9A7F4A8BF1A@apple.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.2) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-02-01_11:, , signatures=0 Cc: "3d-printing@pwg.org" <3d-printing@pwg.org> Subject: [IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP 3D Printing Extensions v1.1 (Ends February 15, 2019) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, This message starts the IPP workgroup Last Call of the IPP 3D Printing Extensions v1.1, which is available at: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d11-20190201.pdf Please "reply all" to this message with any comments or feedback prior to February 15, 2019 at 10pm PT. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Feb 1 09:34:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6970E1310F8 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted an updated stable draft of the IPP 3D Printing Extensions v1.1 to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d11-20190201.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d11-20190201.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d11-20190201-rev.pdf _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Feb 1 10:02:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2DE131148 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 10:02:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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dmarc=quarantine header.from=apple.com X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:,, definitions=2019-02-01_13:,, signatures=0 Received: from [17.235.55.194] by nwk-mmpp-sz10.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.3.20181024 64bit (built Oct 24 2018)) with ESMTPSA id <0PM900L1BE3GHJ00@nwk-mmpp-sz10.apple.com>; Fri, 01 Feb 2019 10:02:06 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Sweet Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 13:02:04 -0500 Message-id: To: PWG Workgroup X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.2) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-02-01_13:, , signatures=0 Subject: [IPP] Draft slides for February 2019 F2F posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted draft slides for the February 2019 F2F sessions to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-february-19d1.pdf Please review and provide feedback before the F2F... _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Feb 4 10:15:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77058130ED1 for ; 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boundary="===============7286172805197805045==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============7286172805197805045== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008107540581157a99" --0000000000008107540581157a99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" FYI - highly relevant for OpenPGP use in IPP Encrypted Jobs and Documents. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: R. Miles McCain Date: Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 12:14 PM Subject: [Secdispatch] OpenPGP Pubkey Distribution Draft To: Hello, Over the past several months, I have worked with Micah Lee and Nat Welch to create an Internet-Draft that formalizes the OpenPGP public key distribution system in use by The Intercept, First Look Media, and the Freedom of the Press Foundation. Currently, keeping individuals' OpenPGP public keys in sync within organizations is difficult and error-prone. Our more streamlined key distribution system (which leverages, not replaces, existing OpenPGP infrastructure such as keyservers) has worked extremely well within our own organization. We hope that formalizing our system as an IETF RFC will improve the OpenPGP ecosystem and make OpenPGP a more practical solution for email encryption in large organizations. After emailing the Chairs and communicating with Richard Barnes late last summer, he suggested that the best path forward for our Draft is either a small working group or sponsorship by an Area Director chair, and that we should announce our draft to SecDispatch. Our Internet-Draft is available at . We would appreciate any and all feedback; both comments on the Internet-Draft itself as well as on how it might be dispatched are extremely helpful. Thank you, Miles McCain, Micah Lee, and Nat Welch _______________________________________________ Secdispatch mailing list Secdispatch@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/secdispatch --0000000000008107540581157a99 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FYI - highly relevant for OpenPGP use in IPP Encrypted Job= s and Documents.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
= From: R. Miles McCain <miles@rmrm.io>
Date: Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 12:14 PM
Subject: [Secdispatch] OpenPGP = Pubkey Distribution Draft
To: <secdispatch@ietf.org>


Hello,

Over the past several months,= I have worked with Micah Lee and Nat Welch to create an Internet-Draft tha= t formalizes the OpenPGP public key distribution system in use by The Inter= cept, First Look Media, and the Freedom of the Press Foundation.
=
Currently, keeping individuals' OpenPGP public keys in s= ync within organizations is difficult and error-prone. Our more streamlined= key distribution system (which leverages, not replaces, existing OpenPGP i= nfrastructure such as keyservers) has worked extremely well within our own = organization. We hope that formalizing our system as an IETF RFC will impro= ve the OpenPGP ecosystem and make OpenPGP a more practical solution for ema= il encryption in large organizations.

After emaili= ng the Chairs and communicating with Richard Barnes late last summer, he su= ggested that the best path forward for our Draft is either a small working = group or sponsorship by an Area Director chair, and that we should announce= our draft to SecDispatch. Our Internet-Draft is available at <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mccain-keylist/>.

We would appreciate any and all feedback; both comments on= the Internet-Draft itself as well as on how it might be dispatched are ext= remely helpful.

Thank you,
Miles McCain,= Micah Lee, and Nat Welch
_______________________________________________
Secdispatch mailing list
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Hi,

 

Canon’s comments

 

1.     &= nbsp; The PWG Last Call announcement (February 1st) used the January 16th version of the document but there is= also a January 17th version. Which version should be used? We&#= 8217;re assuming January 17th.

2.     &= nbsp; Sections 3.3.1 and 3.3.2 are exactly the same excep= t one is for user Lisa and the other is for user Harry.  One section i= s about Authentication Failure and the other is Authorization Failure. = ; This is a bit confusing since the paragraphs are exactly the same except for the use case user name and the section tit= les.

3.     &= nbsp; Section 7.3 is a security recommendation descriptio= n, where SHOULD is used for all list items except for item 3 which states &= #8220;A Printer MUST support User-provisioned X.509.“. Should this be= SHOULD as well?

 

Best regards,<= /o:p>

Rick Yardumian, Can= on

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boundary="Boundary_(ID_znpNSO/Rd8JkokfsCt5XBw)" --Boundary_(ID_znpNSO/Rd8JkokfsCt5XBw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Rick, > On Feb 4, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Yardumian, Rick = wrote: >=20 > Hi, > =20 > Canon=E2=80=99s comments > =20 > 1. The PWG Last Call announcement (February 1st) used the = January 16th version of the document but there is also a January 17th = version. Which version should be used? We=E2=80=99re assuming January = 17th. Crap, yes please use the Jan 17th version. I apparently missed the = announcement for it, and the IPP WG page still points to the Jan 16th = version... > 2. Sections 3.3.1 and 3.3.2 are exactly the same except one is = for user Lisa and the other is for user Harry. One section is about = Authentication Failure and the other is Authorization Failure. This is = a bit confusing since the paragraphs are exactly the same except for the = use case user name and the section titles. Authentication and authorization are not the same thing, but I agree we = might want to tweak the wording to make this clear. > 3. Section 7.3 is a security recommendation description, where = SHOULD is used for all list items except for item 3 which states =E2=80=9C= A Printer MUST support User-provisioned X.509.=E2=80=9C. Should this be = SHOULD as well? Let's discuss this, as any deployment of printers in the enterprise will = want to use CA-signed certs for the organization instead of self-signed = certs generated by the printer... _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_znpNSO/Rd8JkokfsCt5XBw) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Rick,

On Feb 4, 2019, at 9:24 PM, = Yardumian, Rick <RYardumian@ciis.canon.com> wrote:

Hi,
 
Canon=E2=80= =99s comments
 
1.       The PWG Last = Call announcement (February 1st) used the January = 16th version of the document but = there is also a January 17th version. Which version = should be used? We=E2=80=99re assuming January 17th.

Crap, yes please use the Jan 17th version.  I = apparently missed the announcement for it, and the IPP WG page still = points to the Jan 16th version...

2.       Sections = 3.3.1 and 3.3.2 are exactly the same except one is for user Lisa and the = other is for user Harry.  One section is about Authentication = Failure and the other is Authorization Failure.  This is a bit = confusing since the paragraphs are exactly the same except for the use = case user name and the section = titles.

Authentication and authorization are not the same = thing, but I agree we might want to tweak the wording to make this = clear.

3.       Section 7.3 = is a security recommendation description, where SHOULD is used for all = list items except for item 3 which states =E2=80=9CA Printer MUST = support User-provisioned X.509.=E2=80=9C. Should this be SHOULD as = well?

Let's discuss this, as any deployment of printers in the = enterprise will want to use CA-signed certs for the organization instead = of self-signed certs generated by the printer...

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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boundary="===============4730037108831587106==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4730037108831587106== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6BF369EBF48A48A8B1020F752F12E900hpcom_" --_000_6BF369EBF48A48A8B1020F752F12E900hpcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ira! Smith On Feb 4, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Ira McDonald > wrote: FYI - highly relevant for OpenPGP use in IPP Encrypted Jobs and Documents. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: R. Miles McCain > Date: Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 12:14 PM Subject: [Secdispatch] OpenPGP Pubkey Distribution Draft To: > Hello, Over the past several months, I have worked with Micah Lee and Nat Welch to= create an Internet-Draft that formalizes the OpenPGP public key distributi= on system in use by The Intercept, First Look Media, and the Freedom of the= Press Foundation. Currently, keeping individuals' OpenPGP public keys in sync within organiza= tions is difficult and error-prone. Our more streamlined key distribution s= ystem (which leverages, not replaces, existing OpenPGP infrastructure such = as keyservers) has worked extremely well within our own organization. We ho= pe that formalizing our system as an IETF RFC will improve the OpenPGP ecos= ystem and make OpenPGP a more practical solution for email encryption in la= rge organizations. After emailing the Chairs and communicating with Richard Barnes late last s= ummer, he suggested that the best path forward for our Draft is either a sm= all working group or sponsorship by an Area Director chair, and that we sho= uld announce our draft to SecDispatch. Our Internet-Draft is available at <= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mccain-keylist/>. We would appreciate any and all feedback; both comments on the Internet-Dra= ft itself as well as on how it might be dispatched are extremely helpful. Thank you, Miles McCain, Micah Lee, and Nat Welch _______________________________________________ Secdispatch mailing list Secdispatch@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/secdispatch _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --_000_6BF369EBF48A48A8B1020F752F12E900hpcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-ID: <2C836119490BE441B0E6A0AF1210E5C0@NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ira!

Smith



On Feb 4, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wr= ote:

FYI - highly relevant for OpenPGP use in IPP En= crypted Jobs and Documents.

---------- Forwarded message --------= -
From: R. Miles McCain <miles@rmrm.io>
Date: Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 12:14 PM
Subject: [Secdispatch] OpenPGP Pubkey Distribution Draft
To: <secdispatch@ietf= .org>


Hello,

Over the past several months, I have worked with Micah Lee = and Nat Welch to create an Internet-Draft that formalizes the OpenPGP publi= c key distribution system in use by The Intercept, First Look Media, and th= e Freedom of the Press Foundation.

Currently, keeping individuals' OpenPGP public keys in sync= within organizations is difficult and error-prone. Our more streamlined ke= y distribution system (which leverages, not replaces, existing OpenPGP infr= astructure such as keyservers) has worked extremely well within our own organization. We hope that formalizin= g our system as an IETF RFC will improve the OpenPGP ecosystem and make Ope= nPGP a more practical solution for email encryption in large organizations.=

After emailing the Chairs and communicating with Richard Ba= rnes late last summer, he suggested that the best path forward for our Draf= t is either a small working group or sponsorship by an Area Director chair,= and that we should announce our draft to SecDispatch. Our Internet-Draft is available at <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mccain-keylist/>.

We would appreciate any and all feedback; both comments on = the Internet-Draft itself as well as on how it might be dispatched are extr= emely helpful.

Thank you,
Miles McCain, Micah Lee, and Nat Welch
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boundary="===============8544756812097492489==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8544756812097492489== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6B6E8D3CBF3241C7A89BE83309764C7Dhpcom_" --_000_6B6E8D3CBF3241C7A89BE83309764C7Dhpcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Closing the loop. The next draft of JPS2v2 will have "job-cancel-after" and= friends, and also "job-retain-until" and friends. Smith On Dec 6, 2018, at 2:12 PM, Michael Sweet > wrote: All, As requested in today's concall, here is a description of the CUPS "job-can= cel-after (integer(1:MAX))" Job Template attribute (added in CUPS 2.0): job-cancel-after (integer(1:MAX)) The "job-cancel-after" attribute provides the maximum number of seconds tha= t are allowed for processing a Job. The Printer MUST cancel it automatical= ly if the Job cannot be processed within the specified timeframe. The corresponding Printer Description attributes are "job-cancel-after-supp= orted (rangeOfInteger)" and "job-cancel-after-default (integer(1:MAX) | no-= value)". The proposal is to add this attribute to the JPS2 v2.0 specification as a c= orollary of "job-retain-until". Thoughts? _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --_000_6B6E8D3CBF3241C7A89BE83309764C7Dhpcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-ID: <5201883909D5A948BB09C70D54CDA365@NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Closing the loop. The next draft of JPS2v2 will have "job-cancel-after= " and friends, and also "job-retain-until" and friends.

Smith



On Dec 6, 2018, at 2:12 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

All,

As requested in today's concall, here is a description of t= he CUPS "job-cancel-after (integer(1:MAX))" Job Template attribut= e (added in CUPS 2.0):

job-cancel-after (integer(1:MAX))

The "job-cancel-after" attribute provides the max= imum number of seconds that are allowed for processing a Job.  The Pri= nter MUST cancel it automatically if the Job cannot be processed within the= specified timeframe. 

The corresponding Printer Description attributes are "= job-cancel-after-supported (rangeOfInteger)" and "job-cancel-afte= r-default (integer(1:MAX) | no-value)".

The proposal is to add this attribute to the JPS2 v2.0 spec= ification as a corollary of "job-retain-until".

Thoughts?

_________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

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boundary="===============0899282003225977253==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0899282003225977253== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F60C6618-39C4-4F06-9518-B703B825735B"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 --Apple-Mail=_F60C6618-39C4-4F06-9518-B703B825735B Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_025A277A-F8F9-42F9-96D3-DEC28D623714" --Apple-Mail=_025A277A-F8F9-42F9-96D3-DEC28D623714 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings again, Additionally, we have changed the meeting password. If you wish to = attend, reply with your request, and I'll send the meeting password to = you. Sorry for the trouble, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ > On Feb 13, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architect) wrote: >=20 > Greetings, >=20 > We seem to have suffered some type of problem with today's meeting. = Here is an updated meeting link for the second half of today's meeting: >=20 > = https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dmb08f2617bf8106e96bc361= 862ec46f7f = >=20 > This will start back up in 25 minutes. >=20 > Smith >=20 > /** > Smith Kennedy > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > pwg-announce mailing list > pwg-announce@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce --Apple-Mail=_025A277A-F8F9-42F9-96D3-DEC28D623714 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Greetings again,

Additionally, we have changed the meeting password. If you = wish to attend, reply with your request, and I'll send the meeting = password to you.

Sorry for the trouble,

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    = Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    = HP Inc.
*/


On Feb 13, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & = Standards Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Greetings,

We seem to have suffered = some type of problem with today's meeting. Here is an updated meeting = link for the second half of today's meeting:

https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dmb08f2617bf8= 106e96bc361862ec46f7f

This will start back up in 25 minutes.
Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    = Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    = HP Inc.
*/


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--===============1878684129==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Feb 13 17:57:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D04D1310D1 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 17:57:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.678 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.678 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.018, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GHsJ3R6eOxeU for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 17:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF291310B0 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 17:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 0DF3A3C7D; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 01:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6A826F2; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 01:57:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 688243B9E; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 01:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw1-f49.google.com (mail-yw1-f49.google.com [209.85.161.49]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C0F62435 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 01:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw1-f49.google.com with SMTP id p17so1743291ywg.0 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 17:57:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hYffvEHllD7S1P/FXN7cFJDIW/fIrhyQX8ljq8tdkJk=; b=WyU2umqmzRuaoCy0zxoBZB4C4NCl+R8sfJRZafKrTp5DtamdNg5t5S3PfmAnDdE1i4 5t0EgqVPfgZX4PgYqh1+Kp0GYgHWlvNjw1TO0O4g/5taLcO2OrY3FnBvXpjNmkufj7qK oKI9D81Rg5kGEP/tIttW5VujSzcRFoZx7aXNWB0ogi+rBty+xa/RwJ/VleHEyChQHtvF 4XHML7JObUa1ESdN2wH01eOi6YNNzow+UzykPoZ8zsdlVgsWyf/OKjcPZzSsdfak9IoS 8nfJiVgQiFaG0NQ7NKkYM3qqv0O7MRjhB27OrACWeLC6qzms3EKExKrZam06Uryjg/Yv WoFw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hYffvEHllD7S1P/FXN7cFJDIW/fIrhyQX8ljq8tdkJk=; b=YtS89QCcqvlpJqQbf3YxApKhsp1owT/rHeKWqK/rKtZqOhPolNDs1/N+4K5/7hYFuA s87pEaZGZj9CfFJWnU4vM6lj8Qoe6O4DYZw1/u52bmOwzunUBi6Zf1iLgkwadZUadTZr wGMLqGd/eblJZxsI4QUOr/YxIBG2TMLS/Muof+RKc4tfiHc6Dh97ZQkTlRpB7lTALbkh CBuE7znLnmcWX8NLbJRxzZsOFvncxa4jI6pp76kI0/CsYe4sWAVXUNwXeH7VgX+SF674 WTpTvw8nBP1tw7/dP9S3Q3lO4T4SQkuJxyuQHyy8+7JPSHR2tvhLPxAGJ23wR+n/dvgX Gg8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuaVQwvNf1BQPZiMs7FWkEJ2svCQ7FsKTTABxZBkxTCGRSFE86pP q6fmm0AK7bxHmaynxuflz48hr4ZQLIkmlYmaku8rHcn0 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3Ib0Fy1G7umjcd/TrkNbaRAeTwgSHJMi+u7LTba9Fx7uUVvVQtYVSuBntAzhTc7RwcCmGut9BBZ1YZTi5kDmY3w= X-Received: by 2002:a81:388a:: with SMTP id f132mr990408ywa.98.1550109425291; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 17:57:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ira McDonald Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 20:56:53 -0500 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] Posted MFD Alerts draft (13 February 2019) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5086903569851920423==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5086903569851920423== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a858870581d0f915" --000000000000a858870581d0f915 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I've just posted a new Prototype draft of MFD Alerts (was PWG 5105.3-2012) with corrections per IPP WG review in January 2019 at: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmfdalerts11-20190213.docx - Word clean version https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmfdalerts11-20190213-rev.docx - Word source w/ redlines https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmfdalerts11-20190213.pdf - PDF clean version https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmfdalerts11-20190213-rev.pdf - PDF w/ redlines For status and review at PWG February 2019 Virtual F2F. Cheers, - Ira ----------------------------------------------------- Change History 13 February 2019 - Prototype draft revision (Ira McDonald) =E2=80=93 changes per IPP WG revi= ew (January 2019). - Global =E2=80=93 Revised all tables to make first row (header) repeat on = every page. - Verified section 2.3 Protocol Role Terminology normative references to [RFC7230] =E2=80=93 no change. - Deleted section 3.2.3 MFDs with Web-based Fleet Management use case =E2= =80=93 out-of-scope. - Revised section 3.3 Exceptions to say there are no significant exceptions and deleted corresponding Comment IM1. - Revised section 4 SNMP Printer Model Extensions to delete Comment IM2 about exposing further Printer MIB subunits in IPP since we already decided not to do so. - Revised section 6.3 IPP Printer Conformance Requirements and section 6.4 IPP Client Conformance Requirements to delete item (3) about implementing prtAlertTable since it=E2=80=99s out-of-scope. - Revised section 7.1 IPP Internationalization Considerations to add bullets to all lists and change [UTR20] (withdrawn technical report) to [UNICODEXML] (UTR20 transitioned to W3C). - Revised section 8.1 IPP Security Considerations to add bullets to all lists and correct an indentation issue in one paragraph. - Global =E2=80=93 Revised section 10 References to change =E2=80=9Chttp://= www.ietf.org/rfc=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9Chttps://tools.ietf.org/html=E2=80=9D and remove =E2=80=9C.txt= =E2=80=9D suffix in order to get HTML RFC versions w/ errata references. - Global =E2=80=93 Revised section 10 References to append trailing =E2=80= =9C/=E2=80=9D to all Unicode references, update dated versions of all Unicode references, delete [UTR20] (withdrawn technical report) and add [UNICODEXML] (UTR20 transitioned to W3C). - Revised section 10.1 Normative References to delete [RFC2616] but keep [RFC7230]. - Revised section 10.2 Informative References to delete DMTF [WS-MGMT] and OASIS [WSDM] web services management unused references =E2=80=93 out-of-sco= pe. --000000000000a858870581d0f915 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I've=C2=A0 just posted a new Proto= type draft of MFD Alerts (was PWG 5105.3-20= 12)
- Word source w/ redlines

- PDF clean version
- PDF w/ redlines

For status and review at PWG February 2019 Virtual F2F.

Cheers,
- Ira

-----------------= ------------------------------------
Change History
13 February 2019

- Prototype draft revision (Ira McDonal= d) =E2=80=93 changes per IPP WG review (January 2019).
- Global =E2=80= =93 Revised all tables to make first row (header) repeat on every page.
= - Verified section 2.3 Protocol Role Terminology normative references to [R= FC7230] =E2=80=93 no change.
- Deleted section 3.2.3 MFDs with Web-based= Fleet Management use case =E2=80=93 out-of-scope.
- Revised section 3.3= Exceptions to say there are no significant exceptions and deleted correspo= nding Comment IM1.
- Revised section 4 SNMP Printer Model Extensions to = delete Comment IM2 about exposing further Printer MIB subunits in IPP since= we already decided not to do so.
- Revised section 6.3 IPP Printer Conf= ormance Requirements and section 6.4 IPP Client Conformance Requirements to= delete item (3) about implementing prtAlertTable since it=E2=80=99s out-of= -scope.
- Revised section 7.1 IPP Internationalization Considerations to= add bullets to all lists and change [UTR20] (withdrawn technical report) t= o [UNICODEXML] (UTR20 transitioned to W3C).
- Revised section 8.1 IPP Se= curity Considerations to add bullets to all lists and correct an indentatio= n issue in one paragraph.
- Global =E2=80=93 Revised section 10 Referenc= es to change =E2=80=9Chttp://www.ietf.o= rg/rfc=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9Chtt= ps://tools.ietf.org/html=E2=80=9D and remove =E2=80=9C.txt=E2=80=9D suf= fix in order to get HTML RFC versions w/ errata references.
- Global =E2= =80=93 Revised section 10 References to append trailing =E2=80=9C/=E2=80=9D= to all Unicode references, update dated versions of all Unicode references= , delete [UTR20] (withdrawn technical report) and add [UNICODEXML] (UTR20 t= ransitioned to W3C).
- Revised section 10.1 Normative References to dele= te [RFC2616] but keep [RFC7230].
- Revised section 10.2 Informative Refe= rences to delete DMTF [WS-MGMT] and OASIS [WSDM] web services management un= used references =E2=80=93 out-of-scope.



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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Greetings, This morning I posted an updated draft of IPP Job and Printer Extensions Set 2 v2.0 (JPS2v2), for review at today's February 2019 F2F. The documents are available here: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext2v20-20190214.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext2v20-20190214.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext2v20-20190214-rev.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext2v20-20190214-rev.docx It is still in a state of flux but a number of the proposed additions have been added in this draft. 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Smith /** Smith Kennedy HP Inc. */ _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Feb 14 13:46:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE85612E04D for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:46:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAD_ENC_HEADER=0.001, BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=hp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7sxG3LKGjZFa for ; 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Smith /** Smith Kennedy HP Inc. */ _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Feb 14 14:08:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B7B1311EE for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:08:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.904 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.904 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_FAIL=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=apple.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id il09DGHBFGI1 for ; 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Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:08:25 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Sweet Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:08:23 -0500 To: PWG Workgroup Message-id: <70000B19-C721-4F75-85B1-806EB050F0CE@apple.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.2) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-02-14_11:, , signatures=0 Subject: [IPP] Apple has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and has no comments X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Feb 14 14:09:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD681311ED for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Feb 14 14:10:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD9A1311E6 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:10:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:10:50 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Sweet Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:10:48 -0500 Message-id: <40643F5C-4B9B-49C2-AEC0-E00A3009FCD7@apple.com> To: PWG Workgroup X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.2) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-02-14_11:, , signatures=0 Subject: [IPP] Minutes from this week's IPP F2F sessions posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted the minutes from this week's IPP workgroup F2F sessions to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20190213.pdf Our next conference call will be on February 28, 2019 at 3pm ET. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Feb 14 18:42:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED44130E96 for ; 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boundary="===============0717948020902436522==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0717948020902436522== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009190c40581e5b942" --0000000000009190c40581e5b942 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks Smith! - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --0000000000009190c40581e5b942 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Sat, 16 Feb 2019 11:56:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ira McDonald Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 14:56:16 -0500 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] Posted MFD Alerts Stable draft (16 February 2019) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1303507773758263402==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1303507773758263402== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009645b10582084902" --0000000000009645b10582084902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I've just posted a new *Stable* draft of MFD Alerts (was PWG 5105.3-2012) with corrections per PWG F2F review in February 2019 at: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmfdalerts11-20190216.docx - Word clean version https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmfdalerts11-20190216-rev.docx - Word source w/ redlines https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmfdalerts11-20190216.pdf - PDF clean version https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmfdalerts11-20190216-rev.pdf - PDF w/ redlines For IPP WG Last Call and subsequent PWG Call for Objections (errata). 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Ricoh USA, Inc.

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boundary="===============2616747758796844795==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============2616747758796844795== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F1707FB4-8951-4CED-BBC3-7A98489202B7"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_F1707FB4-8951-4CED-BBC3-7A98489202B7 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_86507C2A-7982-462E-B8D7-6871AE00D765" --Apple-Mail=_86507C2A-7982-462E-B8D7-6871AE00D765 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Alan! This editorial feedback is important, and I'll make this = change before we go to Formal Vote. As an alternative, I could replace = the "and" with a period, and make the second half of the (pretty long) = sentence a new sentence, like so: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This = authentication method is initiated by the Printer by sending a = Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) = [RFC5246] handshake. Any strong opinions either way? I'm also not sure that I should be = capitalizing "Authentication" in "The 'certificate' IPP Authentication = method...". Smith > On Feb 26, 2019, at 6:01 AM, Sukert, Alan = wrote: >=20 > Minor comment (grammatically sentence did not read correctly; = suggested addition is in red type) that can be ignored if needed to = approve - Lines 272-274: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method = uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS and is initiated by the Printer by sending a = Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) = [RFC5246] handshake. >=20 > Alan Sukert > Product Security Specialist > Xerox Research and Product Development/ Product Security and = Development Process Controls > Xerox Certified Green Belt > Alan.Sukert@xerox.com | tel 585.427.1413 > MS 0111-03A | 800 Phillips Road | Webster, NY 14580 USA >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: pwg-announce > On Behalf Of Michael Sweet > Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 12:36 PM > To: PWG Announcements > > Subject: [PWG-Announce] PWG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods = (Ends February 28, 2019) >=20 > Hi, >=20 > [This PWG Last Call starts today, February 1, 2019, and ends Thursday, = February 28, 2019 at 10pm US Pacific time.] >=20 > This is the formal announcement of the IPP Authentication Methods best = practice docuemnt, located at: >=20 > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190116.pdf = >=20 > The IPP WG has completed extensive review of the various revisions of = this document and a workgroup last call. >=20 > The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum of PWG members (30% or 7 = members) must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), = before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote. This PWG Last Call = is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment. = The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is = located at: >=20 > https://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf = >=20 >=20 > HOW TO RESPOND >=20 > Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: >=20 > Subject: has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods = and has [no] comments >=20 >=20 > WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE >=20 > Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list. >=20 > Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses: >=20 > ipp at pwg.org (IPP WG mailing list - you must be = subscribed!); > smith.kennedy at hp.com (Smith Kennedy, PWG Chair, = IPP Authentication Methods editor) > blueroofmusic at gmail.com (Ira McDonald, PWG = Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair) > ptykod at tykodi.com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG = Co-Chair) > msweet at apple.com (Mike Sweet, IPP WG = Secretary) >=20 > Note: You must be subscribed to the IPP WG mailing list to send email = to that list - otherwise your email will be silently discarded. You can = subscribe to this list at: >=20 > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 > _______________________________________________ > pwg-announce mailing list > pwg-announce@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce = --Apple-Mail=_86507C2A-7982-462E-B8D7-6871AE00D765 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Thanks Alan! This editorial feedback is important, and I'll = make this change before we go to Formal Vote. As an alternative, I could = replace the "and" with a period, and make the second half of the (pretty = long) sentence a new sentence, like so:

The 'certificate' IPP = Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. = X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This authentication method is initiated by the Printer by = sending a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer = Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.

Any strong opinions either = way? I'm also not sure that I should be capitalizing "Authentication" in = "The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method...".
Smith



On Feb 26, 2019, at 6:01 AM, Sukert, Alan <alan.sukert@xerox.com> wrote:

Minor comment (grammatically sentence did not = read correctly; suggested addition is in red type) that can be ignored = if needed to approve - Lines 272-274: The 'certificate' IPP = Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. = X.509 certificate authentication via TLS and is= initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message = during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.
 
Alan Sukert
Product Security Specialist
Xerox = Research and Product Development/ Product Security and Development = Process Controls
Xerox Certified Green = Belt
Alan.Sukert@xerox.com| tel 585.427.1413
MS 0111-03A | 800 Phillips Road | Webster, NY 14580 = USA
 
-----Original = Message-----
From: pwg-announce <pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org> On Behalf Of Michael = Sweet
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 12:36 PM
To: PWG Announcements <pwg-announce@pwg.org>
Subject: = [PWG-Announce] PWG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods (Ends February = 28, 2019)
 
Hi,
 
[This PWG Last Call starts today, = February 1, 2019, and ends Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 10pm US = Pacific time.]
 
This is = the formal announcement of the IPP Authentication Methods best practice = docuemnt, located at:
 
   https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190116.pdf<= /div>
 
The IPP WG has = completed extensive review of the various revisions of this document and = a workgroup last call.
 
The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum of PWG members = (30% or 7 members) must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without = comments), before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote.  = This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review = acknowledgment.  The PWG Definition of the Standards Development = Process Version 3.0 is located at:
 
   https://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf=
 
 
HOW TO RESPOND
 
Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line = format:
 
   = Subject: <Company Name> has reviewed the IPP Authentication = Methods and has [no] comments
 
 
WHERE TO SEND YOUR = RESPONSE
 
Please do NOT = simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list.
 
Please send your response to = *all* of the following email addresses:
 
   ipp at pwg.org (IPP WG mailing list - you = must be subscribed!);
   smith.kennedy = at hp.com (Smith Kennedy, PWG Chair, = IPP Authentication Methods editor)
   = blueroofmusic at gmail.com (Ira McDonald, PWG = Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
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Tue, 26 Feb 2019 08:21:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0CCC9D91-B207-417C-BF6C-7DC8F871735C@hp.com> In-Reply-To: <0CCC9D91-B207-417C-BF6C-7DC8F871735C@hp.com> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 11:21:19 -0500 Message-ID: To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect)" , Ira McDonald Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" , Alan Sukert Subject: Re: [IPP] Subject: Xerox has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and has one comment X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Ira McDonald via ipp Reply-To: Ira McDonald Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4919466710992269038==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4919466710992269038== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003cef220582ce7386" --0000000000003cef220582ce7386 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Smith and Alan, I strongly prefer the two sentences solution. We should all try to avoid long sentences with operational content in more than one subclause, because they interfere w/ clarity. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 10:17 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) wrote: > Thanks Alan! This editorial feedback is important, and I'll make this > change before we go to Formal Vote. As an alternative, I could replace the > "and" with a period, and make the second half of the (pretty long) sentence > a new sentence, like so: > > The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate > authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This authentication > method is initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request > message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. > > Any strong opinions either way? I'm also not sure that I should be > capitalizing "Authentication" in "The 'certificate' IPP Authentication > method...". > > Smith > > > > On Feb 26, 2019, at 6:01 AM, Sukert, Alan wrote: > > Minor comment (grammatically sentence did not read correctly; suggested > addition is in red type) that can be ignored if needed to approve - Lines > 272-274: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate > authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS and is > initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during > the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. > > Alan Sukert > Product Security Specialist > Xerox Research and Product Development/ Product Security and Development > Process Controls > Xerox Certified Green Belt > Alan.Sukert@xerox.com| tel 585.427.1413 > MS 0111-03A | 800 Phillips Road | Webster, NY 14580 USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: pwg-announce On Behalf Of Michael > Sweet > Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 12:36 PM > To: PWG Announcements > Subject: [PWG-Announce] PWG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods (Ends > February 28, 2019) > > Hi, > > [This PWG Last Call starts today, February 1, 2019, and ends Thursday, > February 28, 2019 at 10pm US Pacific time.] > > This is the formal announcement of the IPP Authentication Methods best > practice docuemnt, located at: > > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190116.pdf > > > The IPP WG has completed extensive review of the various revisions of this > document and a workgroup last call. > > The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum of PWG members (30% or 7 > members) must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), > before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote. This PWG Last Call is > NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment. The PWG > Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at: > > https://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf > > > > HOW TO RESPOND > > Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: > > Subject: has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and > has [no] comments > > > WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE > > Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list. > > Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses: > > ipp at pwg.org (IPP WG mailing list - you must be subscribed!); > smith.kennedy at hp.com (Smith Kennedy, PWG Chair, IPP Authentication > Methods editor) > blueroofmusic at gmail.com (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary, IPP WG > Co-Chair) > ptykod at tykodi.com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair) > msweet at apple.com (Mike Sweet, IPP WG Secretary) > > Note: You must be subscribed to the IPP WG mailing list to send email to > that list - otherwise your email will be silently discarded. You can > subscribe to this list at: > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > _______________________________________________ > pwg-announce mailing list > pwg-announce@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce > > > > --0000000000003cef220582ce7386 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Smith and Alan,

I strongl= y prefer the two sentences solution.

We should all= try to avoid long sentences with operational content in more than one
subclause, because they interfere w/ clarity.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TC= G Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Pr= otocol SG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing = WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO P= WG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Prin= ter MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com<= br>PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434



On Tue, Feb 26,= 2019 at 10:17 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) <= smith.kennedy@hp.= com> wrote:
Thanks Alan! This editorial feedback is important, and I'll mak= e this change before we go to Formal Vote. As an alternative, I could repla= ce the "and" with a period, and make the second half of the (pret= ty long) sentence a new sentence, like so:

The 'c= ertificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authentica= tion via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This=C2=A0authentication method = is initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during= the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.

Any strong opinions either way? I'm also not sure t= hat I should be capitalizing "Authentication" in "The 'c= ertificate' IPP Authentication method...".

Smith



On Feb 26, 2019, at 6:01 AM, Sukert= , Alan <alan.= sukert@xerox.com> wrote:

Minor comment (grammatically sentence= did not read correctly; suggested addition is in red type) that can be ign= ored if needed to approve - Lines 272-274: The 'certificate' IPP Au= thentication method uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 ce= rtificate authentication via TLS=C2=A0and=C2=A0is initiated by the Prin= ter by sending a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Sec= urity (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.
=C2=A0
Alan Sukert
Product Security Specialist
Xerox Research and Product Dev= elopment/ Product Security and Development Process Controls
Xerox= Certified Green Belt
Alan.Sukert@xerox.com| tel 585.427.1413
MS 01= 11-03A | 800 Phillips Road | Webster, NY 14580 USA
=C2=A0
-----Original Message-----
From: pwg-announce <pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org= > On Behalf Of Michael Sweet
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 12:36= PM
To: PWG Announcements <pwg-announce@pwg.org>
Subject: [PWG-Announce] PWG= Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods (Ends February 28, 2019)
= =C2=A0
Hi,
=C2=A0
[This PWG Last Call starts = today, February 1, 2019, and ends Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 10pm US Pa= cific time.]
=C2=A0
This is the formal announcement of = the IPP Authentication Methods best practice docuemnt, located at:
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
The IPP WG has completed extensive revi= ew of the various revisions of this document and a workgroup last call.
=C2=A0
The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum of PWG m= embers (30% or 7 members) must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without= comments), before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote.=C2=A0 This= PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowl= edgment.=C2=A0 The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Vers= ion 3.0 is located at:
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
HOW TO RESPOND
=C2=A0
Send an email with *exact= ly* the following subject line format:
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2= =A0 Subject: <Company Name> has reviewed the IPP Authentication Metho= ds and has [no] comments
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
WHERE = TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE
=C2=A0
Please do NOT simply reply= to this note on the PWG-Announce list.
=C2=A0
Please s= end your response to *all* of the following email addresses:
=C2= =A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0 ipp at=C2=A0pwg.org=C2=A0(IPP WG mailing list - you must be subscribed!);
=C2=A0=C2=A0= smith.kennedy at=C2=A0hp.com=C2=A0(Smith Kennedy= , PWG Chair, IPP Authentication Methods editor)
=C2=A0=C2=A0 blue= roofmusic at=C2=A0gmail.com=C2=A0(Ira McDonald= , PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
=C2=A0=C2=A0 ptykod at=C2=A0tyk= odi.com=C2=A0(Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair)
=C2=A0=C2=A0 msweet at=C2=A0apple.com=C2=A0<= /span>(Mike Sweet, IPP WG Secretary)
=C2=A0
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boundary="===============0512440728776283705==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0512440728776283705== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ED9303F9-4635-47BC-A3FD-753D33BA320C_" --_ED9303F9-4635-47BC-A3FD-753D33BA320C_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Actually, I have one minor comment that is of no consequence once the Chang= e History is removed.. 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Actually, I have one minor comment that is of no consequence once the = Change History is removed.. The=C2=A0 Spec is dated January 14 (athough wit= h a 1-17 file name.) =C2=A0But the change history indicates a 17 January ch= ange

 

 

 

 

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boundary="===============3515193691799819297==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3515193691799819297== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_F1BDBB61-72D3-4949-ABD3-E09A7D1873D5_" --_F1BDBB61-72D3-4949-ABD3-E09A7D1873D5_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks for addressing a very difficult subject. The diagrams contain a lo= t of information but are unreadable without magnification. The alternative = would be to break each transaction into multiple figures, which would also = be cumbersome (and a lot more work). A few trivial items related to the possible confusion between authenticati= on and authorization. ( although I may have this wrong) 1. Line 155 =E2=80=9CAndy enters his credential to prove access=E2=80=A6=E2= =80=9D Presumably, Andy enters his credentials to support he is who he sa= ys he is, which may or may not provide access. Perhaps just =E2=80=9C And= y enters his credential.=E2=80=9D 2. Canon commented =E2=80=9CSections 3.3.1 and 3.3.2 are exactly the same = except one is for user Lisa and the other is for user Harry.=C2=A0 One sect= ion is about Authentication Failure and the other is Authorization Failure.= =C2=A0 This is a bit confusing since the paragraphs are exactly the same ex= cept for the use case user name and the section titles.=E2=80=9D I agree. = Presumably one can have an account and a valid password but still nor be = authorized to use the printer for some other reason. (para 5.1.3 and para = 5.2.3 discuss this). The use cases should include a clear case of an authe= ntication failure (unless it is out of scope for this document, in which ca= se it should be under para 3.4.)=20 3. Although I may be missing it, the diagrams do not make clear what is an = authentication failure vs an authorization failure. (indeed, the distincti= on between the terms in the diagrams is unclear in many cases, with the Aut= horization Service clearly doing authentication in many cases ). Aside fro= m the Use Cases and the failure handling in section 5, the text does not ap= pear to help in the distinction either.=20 I recognize that (I think) the common use is that the user is authorized on= the basis of authentication credentials, thus: a. HTTP Status Code 401 Unauthorized: The request has not been applied beca= use it lacks valid authentication credentials=20 b. The comment that the use of the 'oauth' authentication method =E2=80= =A6 depends on the Printer supporting the =E2=80=9Coauth-authorization-serv= er-uri=E2=80=9D Printer Description attribute).=20 But some help in distinguishing an Authentication failure from an Authoriza= tion failure might be useful. Thanks. --_F1BDBB61-72D3-4949-ABD3-E09A7D1873D5_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

Thanks for =C2=A0addressing a very =C2=A0difficult subject. The di= agrams contain a lot of information but are unreadable without magnificatio= n. The alternative would be to break each transaction into multiple figures= , which would also be cumbersome (and a lot more work).

 

A few trivial items related = to the=C2=A0 possible confusion between authentication and authorization. (= although I may have=C2=A0 this wrong)

 <= /o:p>

  1. Line 155 =E2= =80=9CAndy enters his credential to prove access=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 Pr= esumably, =C2=A0Andy enters his credentials to support he is who he says he= is, which may or may not provide access. =C2=A0Perhaps=C2=A0 just =E2=80= =9C Andy enters his credential.=E2=80=9D

 

  1. Canon= commented=C2=A0 =E2=80=9CSections 3.3.1 and 3.3.2 are exactly the same exc= ept one is for user Lisa and the other is for user Harry.  One section= is about Authentication Failure and the other is Authorization Failure.&nb= sp; This is a bit confusing since the paragraphs are exactly the same excep= t for the use case user name and the section titles.=E2=80=9D I =C2=A0agree= .=C2=A0 Presumably one can have an=C2=A0 account and a valid password but s= till nor be authorized to use the printer for some other reason. =C2=A0(par= a 5.1.3 and para 5.2.3=C2=A0 discuss this). The use cases should include a = clear case of an authentication failure (unless it is out of scope for this= document, in which case it should be under para 3.4.)

 

  1. Although I may be missing it, the diagrams do not make cl= ear what is an authentication failure =C2=A0vs an authorization failure. (i= ndeed, the distinction between the terms in the diagrams is unclear in many= cases, with the Authorization Service clearly doing authentication in many= cases ).=C2=A0 Aside from the Use Cases and the failure handling in sectio= n 5, the text does not appear to help in the distinction either.
=

 

I recognize that (I think) the common use is that the user is authorized = on the basis of authentication credentials,=C2=A0 thus:

 

    1. HTTP Status Code = 401 Unauthorized: The request has not been applied because it lacks valid a= uthentication credentials
    2. The =C2=A0comment that=C2=A0 the use of = the 'oauth' authentication method =E2=80=A6 depends on the Printer supporti= ng the =E2=80=9Coauth-authorization-server-uri=E2=80=9D Printer Description= attribute).

But some help in distinguishing an Authentication failure from an Authoriz= ation failure might =C2=A0be useful.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: "Kennedy, Smith \(Wireless & Standards Architect\) via ipp" Reply-To: "Kennedy, Smith \(Wireless & Standards Architect\)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Hi there, At the last F2F, we talked about the deprecation of "document-format-details", and I expressed a business need for a suitable replacement for conveying job accounting information. We were going to schedule up a BoF on this for the April F2F. What do we need to do to get started on this discussion? I'd like it if we could discuss an action plan briefly this Thursday. I guess the first thing to do would be to collect requirements around what things might want / need to be conveyed, what are the privacy concerns and how might those be mitigated. Then we could get into attribute design. Thanks for any thoughts! 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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Michael Sweet via ipp Reply-To: Michael Sweet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Smith, We should probably update the Wednesday schedule to include an hour or so for this - maybe shave 30 minutes off the IPP Everywhere slot and 30 from the Job Storage/Job Print Password slot? > On Feb 27, 2019, at 12:30 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp wrote: > > Hi there, > > At the last F2F, we talked about the deprecation of "document-format-details", and I expressed a business need for a suitable replacement for conveying job accounting information. We were going to schedule up a BoF on this for the April F2F. What do we need to do to get started on this discussion? I'd like it if we could discuss an action plan briefly this Thursday. > > I guess the first thing to do would be to collect requirements around what things might want / need to be conveyed, what are the privacy concerns and how might those be mitigated. 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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: "Kennedy, Smith \(Wireless & Standards Architect\) via ipp" Reply-To: "Kennedy, Smith \(Wireless & Standards Architect\)" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3542531956806984111==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3542531956806984111== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_048F96BD-0317-4573-97B5-527428905706"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_048F96BD-0317-4573-97B5-527428905706 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7ADD22EC-696F-4F93-90C4-93F4B65E85AE" --Apple-Mail=_7ADD22EC-696F-4F93-90C4-93F4B65E85AE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sounds good - I've updated the agenda as such. Smith > On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:32 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > Smith, >=20 > We should probably update the Wednesday schedule to include an hour or = so for this - maybe shave 30 minutes off the IPP Everywhere slot and 30 = from the Job Storage/Job Print Password slot? >=20 >=20 > > On Feb 27, 2019, at 12:30 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architect) via ipp wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > At the last F2F, we talked about the deprecation of = "document-format-details", and I expressed a business need for a = suitable replacement for conveying job accounting information. We were = going to schedule up a BoF on this for the April F2F. What do we need to = do to get started on this discussion? I'd like it if we could discuss an = action plan briefly this Thursday. > > > > I guess the first thing to do would be to collect requirements = around what things might want / need to be conveyed, what are the = privacy concerns and how might those be mitigated. Then we could get = into attribute design. > > > > Thanks for any thoughts! > > > > Smith > > > > /** > > Smith Kennedy > > HP Inc. > > */ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipp mailing list > > ipp@pwg.org > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Apple-Mail=_7ADD22EC-696F-4F93-90C4-93F4B65E85AE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Sounds good - I've updated the agenda as such.

Smith



On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:32 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

Smith,

We should probably update the Wednesday schedule to include an hour or so for this - maybe shave 30 minutes off the IPP Everywhere slot and 30 from the Job Storage/Job Print Password slot?


> On Feb 27, 2019, at 12:30 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> At the last F2F, we talked about the deprecation of "document-format-details", and I expressed a business need for a suitable replacement for conveying job accounting information. We were going to schedule up a BoF on this for the April F2F. What do we need to do to get started on this discussion? I'd like it if we could discuss an action plan briefly this Thursday.
>
> I guess the first thing to do would be to collect requirements around what things might want / need to be conveyed, what are the privacy concerns and how might those be mitigated. Then we could get into attribute design.
>
> Thanks for any thoughts!
>
> Smith
>
> /**
> Smith Kennedy
> HP Inc.
> */
>
> _______________________________________________
> ipp mailing list
> ipp@pwg.org
> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

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Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:36:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 18:35:47 -0500 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] IPP WG Agenda 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern (28 February 2019) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Ira McDonald via ipp Reply-To: Ira McDonald Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7711916476061382459==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============7711916476061382459== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e858280582e8a252" --000000000000e858280582e8a252 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 17 January 2019 at 12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Topic: IPP WG Every 2 weeks on Thursday 3:00-4:30 pm US Eastern (GMT-05:00) ------------------------------------------------------- WebEx online meeting (join WebEx first, before audio bridge) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=m8952a7e2500bbe43a428c15193736ec0 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". ------------------------------------------------------- Audio Bridge (join audio second w/ unique access code from WebEx) ------------------------------------------------------- Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239 <%28866%29%20469-3239> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300 <%28650%29%20429-3300> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570 <%28408%29%20856-9570> Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio options ("Call Me Back" or VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting. Unique attendee access code: Displayed in the WebEx meeting Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, Roll Call, and Agenda Review - Mike as minute taker? -- Status of all IPP documents in progress up-to-date below -- Discussion or review topics for today? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20190131.pdf -- IPP WG call on 01/31/19 - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20190213.pdf -- IPP sessions at February 2019 PWG F2F (3) Status/Review of various IPP mailing list notes - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2019/019893.html -- RFC: "job-cancel-after (integer(1:MAX)" Job Template attribute (Smith) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2019/019917.html -- Job accounting replacement for "document-format-details"? (Smith/Mike) (4) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20181105.htm - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20181217.htm -- see PWG SC minutes from 5 November 2018 -- see PWG SC minutes from 17 December 2018 (5) Status of IPP Authentication Methods (Smith) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117-rev.pdf -- Stable draft - PWG F2F discussion in February 2019 -- PWG Last Call ends 28 February 2019 -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote in Q1 2019 (6) Status of Safe G-Code (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgsafegcode10-20190117-rev.pdf -- Stable draft - PWG F2F discussion in February 2019 -- PWG Last Call ends 28 February 2019 -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote in Q1 2019 (7) Status of IPP 3D Printing Extensions v1.1 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d11-20190201-rev.pdf -- Stable draft - PWG F2F discussion in February 2019 -- IPP WG Last ended 15 February 2019 -- Schedule - PWG Call for Objections Q1 2019 (8) Status of IPP Everywhere 1.1 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20190128-rev.pdf - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2019/019856.html - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2019/019857.html -- Stable draft - PWG F2F discussion in February 2019 -- Defer PWG Last Call until IPP Everywhere 1.1 Self-Cert is ready -- Schedule - Stable working drafts/beta tools in Q1 2019 (9) Status of IPP Everywhere 1.1 Self-Certification Manual 1.1 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert11-20180704-rev.pdf -- Prototype draft - PWG F2F discussion in February 2019 -- If we use Github to host the PWG website, how to submit printers? -- Consensus - Mike to update to separate submission process from self-cert process -- Future stable URL for submissions (backport to 1.0 tools/process) -- Schedule - Stable working drafts/beta tools in Q1 2019 (10) Status of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20190130-rev.pdf -- Prototype draft - PWG F2F review in February 2019 -- Prototyping tasks being tracked as a Github project in "ippserver" -- Schedule - Stable working draft and PWG Last Call in Q2 2019 (11) Status of PWG MFD Alerts 1.1 (Ira) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmfdalerts11-20190216-rev.pdf -- Stable draft - PWG F2F review in February 2019 -- Schedule - IPP WG Last Call in Q1 2019 - start today! -- Schedule - PWG Last Call in Q2 2019 (12) Status of IPP Document Object v1.1 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippdocobject11-20190129-rev.pdf -- Prototype draft - PWG F2F discussion in February 2019 -- Prototyping tasks being tracked as a Github project in "ippserver" -- Schedule - Stable draft and IPP WG Last Call in Q1 2019 (13) Status of IPP Job Extensions v1.1 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobext11-20181023-rev.pdf -- Interim draft - PWG F2F discussion in February 2019 -- Schedule - Stable draft and IPP WG Last Call in Q1 2019 (14) Status of Job and Printer Extensions v2 (Smith) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext2v20-20190214.docx -- Interim draft - PWG F2F review in February 2019 -- Proposal - Obsolete original JPS2 entirely (undesirable attributes/definitions) -- New spec named "IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions v2.0" (note the version) -- New registrations for loose ends -- Schedule - Prototype draft Q3 2019 (15) Status of IPP Encrypted Jobs and Documents (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrustnoone10-20190131-rev.pdf -- Interim draft - PWG F2F discussion in February 2019 -- Schedule - Prototype draft Q3 2019 (16) Open Printing update (Ira) -- OP monthly calls (01/09/19) and (02/12/19) -- OP website renovation major progress using Jekyll - new developer team -- GSoC 2019 OP project edits closed (02/06/19) -- GSoC 2019 Linux Foundation mentor application accepted (02/26/19) -- GSoC 2019 Student application period begins (03/25/19) (17) Next steps - IPP WG call on Thu 14 March 2019 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- regular topics - IPP WG call on Thu 28 March 2019 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- regular topics - IPP WG call on Thu 11 April 2019 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- slide review for April 2019 PWG/OP F2F - IPP sessions on Wed/Thu 17-18 April 2019 during PWG/OP F2F -- see agenda on PWG meetings page Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --000000000000e858280582e8a252 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 17 January 2019 at=
12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern

NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and A= udio Bridge below

-------------------------------= ------------------------
Meeting information
------------------------= -------------------------------
Topic: IPP WG
Every 2 weeks on Thursday 3:00-4:30 pm US E= astern (GMT-05:00)

---= ----------------------------------------------------
WebEx online meetin= g (join WebEx first, before= audio bridge)
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1. Go to https://ieee-isto= .webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm8952a7e2500bbe43a428c15193736ec0
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3. If a password is = required, enter the meeting password: Printing123
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Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, Roll Call, and Agenda Rev= iew
-- IPP sessions at February 2019 PWG F2F

=
(3) Status/Review of various IPP mailing list notes
-- RFC: "job-cancel-after (integer(= 1:MAX)" Job Template attribute (Smith)
-- Job accounting repla= cement for "document-format-details"? (Smith/Mike)

(4) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul)

-- St= able draft - PWG F2F discussion in February 2019
-- PWG Last Call ends 28 Fe= bruary 2019
-- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote in Q1 2019
-- Stable draft - PWG F2F discussion in February 2019
-- PWG Last Call ends 28 Fe= bruary 2019
-- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote in Q1 2019

(7) Status of IPP 3D Printing Extensions v1.1 (Mike)
-- = Schedule - Stable working drafts/beta tools in Q1 2019

=
(9) Status of IPP Everywhere 1.1 Se= lf-Certification Manual 1.1 (Mike)
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert11-20180704-= rev.pdf
--=20 Prototype draft - PWG F2F discussion in February 2019
-- If we use Github to host the PWG website, how to sub= mit printers?
-- Consensus - Mike to update to separate submission proce= ss from self-cert process
-- Future stable URL for submissions (backport= to 1.0 tools/process)
-- Schedule - Stable working drafts= /beta tools in Q1 2019

(10) Status of IPP System S= ervice (Ira/Mike)
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ip= p/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20190130-rev.pdf
-- Prototype draft=20 - PWG F2F review in Februa= ry 2019
-- Prototyping tasks being tracked as a Github project in= "ippserver"
-- Schedule - Stable working draft and PWG Last C= all in Q2 2019


-- Prototyping tasks being tracked as a Github project in "ippserver&q= uot;
-- Schedule - Stable draft and IPP WG Last Call in Q1 2019

(13) Status of IPP Job Extensions v1.1 (Mike)
-- Interim draft -=C2=A0 PWG F2F discussion in February 2019
-- Schedule - Stable draft and IPP WG Last Call in Q1 2019
(14) Status of Job and Printer Extensions v2 (Smith= )
-- Interim draft = - PWG F2F review in=C2=A0 February 2019
-- = Proposal - Obsolete original JPS2 entirely (undesirable attributes/definiti= ons)
-- New spec named "IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions v2.0&quo= t; (note the version)
-- New registrations for loose ends
-- S= chedule - Prototype draft Q3 2019




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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Ira McDonald via ipp Reply-To: Ira McDonald Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3498304208111848271==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3498304208111848271== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000014b9e60582e8f6ca" --00000000000014b9e60582e8f6ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Added *early* to IPP WG agenda for tomorrow. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:22 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp wrote: > Sounds good - I've updated the agenda as such. > > Smith > > > > On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:32 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > > Smith, > > We should probably update the Wednesday schedule to include an hour or so > for this - maybe shave 30 minutes off the IPP Everywhere slot and 30 from > the Job Storage/Job Print Password slot? > > > > On Feb 27, 2019, at 12:30 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards > Architect) via ipp wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > At the last F2F, we talked about the deprecation of > "document-format-details", and I expressed a business need for a suitable > replacement for conveying job accounting information. We were going to > schedule up a BoF on this for the April F2F. What do we need to do to get > started on this discussion? I'd like it if we could discuss an action plan > briefly this Thursday. > > > > I guess the first thing to do would be to collect requirements around > what things might want / need to be conveyed, what are the privacy concerns > and how might those be mitigated. Then we could get into attribute design. > > > > Thanks for any thoughts! > > > > Smith > > > > /** > > Smith Kennedy > > HP Inc. > > */ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipp mailing list > > ipp@pwg.org > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > --00000000000014b9e60582e8f6ca Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Added *early* to IPP WG = agenda for tomorrow.

Cheers,
- Ira
=

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Archi= tect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Co-Chair - = TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
Chair - Linux Fou= ndation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
= Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated E= xpert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
= mailto: bluero= ofmusic@gmail.com
PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-= 494-2434


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:22 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Sta= ndards Architect) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
Sounds good - I've updated the a= genda as such.

Smith




Smith,

We should probably update the Wednesday schedule to include an hour or so f= or this - maybe shave 30 minutes off the IPP Everywhere slot and 30 from th= e Job Storage/Job Print Password slot?


> On Feb 27, 2019, at 12:30 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards= Architect) via ipp <ip= p@pwg.org> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> At the last F2F, we talked about the deprecation of "document-for= mat-details", and I expressed a business need for a suitable replaceme= nt for conveying job accounting information. We were going to schedule up a= BoF on this for the April F2F. What do we need to do to get started on thi= s discussion? I'd like it if we could discuss an action plan briefly th= is Thursday.
>
> I guess the first thing to do would be to collect requirements around = what things might want / need to be conveyed, what are the privacy concerns= and how might those be mitigated. Then we could get into attribute design.=
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<006e01d4cf62$834ea120$89ebe360$@tykodi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdTPYdwhQOG3wItKTZ+kio+7E8KSDQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [IPP] Subject: Tykodi Consulting Services LLC has reviewed the PWG Safe G-Code Subset for 3D Printing and has comments X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Paul Tykodi via ipp Reply-To: ptykodi@tykodi.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2230122586218236842==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============2230122586218236842== Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006F_01D4CF38.9A7F9E00" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01D4CF38.9A7F9E00 Content-Type: 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Reference source not found" entries in the Current IPP Attribute column, which need to be fixed. Otherwise thanks for the good effort on this document. Best Regards, /Paul Paul Tykodi Principal Consultant Tykodi Consulting Svcs LLC Phone: (603) 343-1820 3 Lowell Ave Cell: (603) 866-0712 Dover, NH 03820 Fax: (603) 343-1820 USA E-mail: ptykodi@tykodi.com www.tykodi.com Skype: Tykodiconsultingservices Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP Working Group This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi Consulting Services LLC immediately by replying to this message and destroying all copies of this message ------=_NextPart_001_0070_01D4CF38.9A7F9E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

Editorial = Comment - Table 1 on page 9 has two “Error! Reference source not = found” entries in the Current IPP Attribute column, which need to = be fixed.

 

Otherwise thanks for the good effort on this = document.

 

Best Regards,

 

/Paul

 

Paul = Tykodi
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Tykodi Consulting Svcs LLC

 

3 Lowell Ave

 

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USA

 

www.tykodi.com

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boundary="===============3141101858367850902==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============3141101858367850902== Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0083_01D4CF3B.0FF65910" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01D4CF3B.0FF65910 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0084_01D4CF3B.0FF65910" ------=_NextPart_001_0084_01D4CF3B.0FF65910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Technical Comment - I think that overall the current version of the document lacks clarity because the terms Authentication and Authorization have not been provided definitions, for the purpose of their usage in the document, at the beginning of the document. I believe that definitions for these two terms should be added. Thanks. Best Regards, /Paul Paul Tykodi Principal Consultant Tykodi Consulting Svcs LLC Phone: (603) 343-1820 3 Lowell Ave Cell: (603) 866-0712 Dover, NH 03820 Fax: (603) 343-1820 USA E-mail: ptykodi@tykodi.com www.tykodi.com Skype: Tykodiconsultingservices Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP Working Group This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi Consulting Services LLC immediately by replying to this message and destroying all copies of this message ------=_NextPart_001_0084_01D4CF3B.0FF65910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Technical = Comment – I think that overall the current version of the document = lacks clarity because the terms Authentication and Authorization have = not been provided definitions, for the purpose of their usage in the = document, at the beginning of the document. I believe that definitions = for these two terms should be added.

 

Thanks.

 

Best = Regards,

 

/Paul

 

Paul = Tykodi
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Dover, NH 03820

 

USA

 

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X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: TU4PR8401MB0719 Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] Subject: Xerox has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and has one comment X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: "Kennedy, Smith \(Wireless & Standards Architect\) via ipp" Reply-To: "Kennedy, Smith \(Wireless & Standards Architect\)" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6595943690233733919==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6595943690233733919== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E26A51AC-4D41-4FD7-800F-689DB74F6176"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_E26A51AC-4D41-4FD7-800F-689DB74F6176 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BC0E4538-EF57-44ED-B5B7-AA18A5ADC4F9" --Apple-Mail=_BC0E4538-EF57-44ED-B5B7-AA18A5ADC4F9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Cihan! I didn't go back to the document and read the full = paragraph (first paragraph from section 4.7) in place before replying to = Alan. The current paragraph is this: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS is = initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during = the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. The Client then = sends the X.509 certificate identifying the User and/or Client in a = corresponding Certificate message, and a subsequent Certificate Verify = message to prove to the Printer that the Client has the corresponding = private key. If the Client has no configured X.509 certificate to = provide, it sends an empty Certificate message. After re-reading it, I think it ought to be this: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS. This authentication method is initiated by the = Printer when it sends a Certificate Request message during the Transport = Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. The Client responds by sending = a Certificate message with the X.509 certificate identifying the User = and/or Client. The Client then sends a Certificate Verify message to = prove to the Printer that the Client has the corresponding private key. = If the Client has no X.509 certificate to provide to the Printer, it = sends an empty Certificate message. Any objections to this rewrite? Smith > On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:54 AM, Cihan Colakoglu = wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I see a repetition below (blue color) >=20 > The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This = authentication method is initiated by the Printer by sending a = Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) = [RFC5246] handshake. >=20 > I guess the intent was the following? >=20 > The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS. This authentication methodis initiated by the = Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during the Transport = Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. >=20 >=20 > Best Regards, > Cihan Colakoglu > Kyocera Document Solutions >=20 > From: ipp On Behalf Of Ira McDonald via ipp > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 8:21 AM > To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) = ; Ira McDonald > Cc: ipp@pwg.org; Alan Sukert > Subject: Re: [IPP] Subject: Xerox has reviewed the IPP Authentication = Methods and has one comment >=20 > Hi Smith and Alan, >=20 > I strongly prefer the two sentences solution. >=20 > We should all try to avoid long sentences with operational content in = more than one > subclause, because they interfere w/ clarity. >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic = > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc = > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 10:17 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architect) > wrote: > Thanks Alan! This editorial feedback is important, and I'll make this = change before we go to Formal Vote. As an alternative, I could replace = the "and" with a period, and make the second half of the (pretty long) = sentence a new sentence, like so: >=20 > The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This = authentication method is initiated by the Printer by sending a = Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) = [RFC5246] handshake. >=20 > Any strong opinions either way? I'm also not sure that I should be = capitalizing "Authentication" in "The 'certificate' IPP Authentication = method...". >=20 > Smith >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Feb 26, 2019, at 6:01 AM, Sukert, Alan > wrote: >=20 > Minor comment (grammatically sentence did not read correctly; = suggested addition is in red type) that can be ignored if needed to = approve - Lines 272-274: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method = uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS and is initiated by the Printer by sending a = Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) = [RFC5246] handshake. >=20 > Alan Sukert > Product Security Specialist > Xerox Research and Product Development/ Product Security and = Development Process Controls > Xerox Certified Green Belt > Alan.Sukert@xerox.com | tel 585.427.1413 > MS 0111-03A | 800 Phillips Road | Webster, NY 14580 USA >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: pwg-announce > On Behalf Of Michael Sweet > Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 12:36 PM > To: PWG Announcements > > Subject: [PWG-Announce] PWG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods = (Ends February 28, 2019) >=20 > Hi, >=20 > [This PWG Last Call starts today, February 1, 2019, and ends Thursday, = February 28, 2019 at 10pm US Pacific time.] >=20 > This is the formal announcement of the IPP Authentication Methods best = practice docuemnt, located at: >=20 > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190116.pdf = >=20 > The IPP WG has completed extensive review of the various revisions of = this document and a workgroup last call. >=20 > The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum of PWG members (30% or 7 = members) must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), = before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote. This PWG Last Call = is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment. = The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is = located at: >=20 > https://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf = >=20 >=20 > HOW TO RESPOND >=20 > Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: >=20 > Subject: has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods = and has [no] comments >=20 >=20 > WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE >=20 > Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list. >=20 > Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses: >=20 > ipp at pwg.org = (IPP WG mailing list - you must be subscribed!); > smith.kennedy at hp.com = = (Smith Kennedy, PWG Chair, IPP Authentication Methods editor) > blueroofmusic at gmail.com = (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair) > ptykod at tykodi.com = (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair) > msweet at apple.com = (Mike Sweet, IPP WG Secretary) >=20 > Note: You must be subscribed to the IPP WG mailing list to send email = to that list - otherwise your email will be silently discarded. You can = subscribe to this list at: >=20 > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 > _______________________________________________ > pwg-announce mailing list > pwg-announce@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce = --Apple-Mail=_BC0E4538-EF57-44ED-B5B7-AA18A5ADC4F9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Thanks Cihan! I didn't go back to the document and read the = full paragraph (first paragraph from section 4.7) in place before = replying to Alan. The current paragraph is this:

The = 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS is = initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during = the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. The Client then = sends the X.509 certificate identifying the User and/or Client in a = corresponding Certificate message, and a subsequent Certificate Verify = message to prove to the Printer that the Client has the corresponding = private key. If the Client has no configured X.509 certificate to = provide, it sends an empty Certificate = message.

After re-reading it, I think it ought to be this:

The = 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS. This = authentication method is initiated by the Printer when it sends a Certificate = Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] = handshake. The Client responds = by sending a Certificate message with the X.509 certificate = identifying the User and/or Client. The= Client then sends a Certificate Verify message to prove to = the Printer that the Client has the corresponding private key. If the = Client has no X.509 certificate to provide to the Printer, it sends an empty Certificate = message.

Any objections to this rewrite?

Smith



On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:54 AM, Cihan Colakoglu <Cihan.Colakoglu@dda.kyocera.com> wrote:

Hello,
 
I see a repetition = below (blue color)
 
The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. = X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This authentication method is initiated by the Printer = by sending a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer = Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.
 
I = guess the intent was the following?
 
The 'certificate' IPP Authentication = method uses X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS.  This authentication methodis initiated by = the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during the = Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.
 
 
Best Regards,
Cihan Colakoglu
Kyocera Document = Solutions
 
From: ipp <ipp-bounces@pwg.org> On Behalf = Of Ira McDonald = via ipp
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 = 8:21 AM
To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless = & Standards Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com>; Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
Cc: ipp@pwg.org; Alan Sukert = <alan.sukert@xerox.com>
Subject: Re: [IPP] Subject: Xerox = has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and has one comment
 
Hi Smith = and Alan,
 
I strongly prefer the two sentences = solution.
 
We should all try to avoid long = sentences with operational content in more than one
subclause, because they interfere w/ clarity.
 
Cheers,
- Ira
 
Ira McDonald (Musician / = Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility = Solutions WG
Co-Chair - TCG Metadata = Access Protocol SG

Chair - Linux = Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer = Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing = Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer = MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
PO Box 221  = Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434

 
 
On Tue, Feb = 26, 2019 at 10:17 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) = <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
Thanks Alan! This editorial feedback is important, and I'll = make this change before we go to Formal Vote. As an alternative, I could = replace the "and" with a period, and make the second half of the (pretty = long) sentence a new sentence, like so:
 
The 'certificate' IPP Authentication = method uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS.= This authentication method is initiated by the Printer = by sending a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer = Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.
 
Any strong opinions = either way? I'm also not sure that I should be capitalizing = "Authentication" in "The 'certificate' IPP Authentication = method...".
 

Smith



On Feb 26, 2019, at 6:01 AM, Sukert, = Alan <alan.sukert@xerox.com> wrote:
 
Minor comment (grammatically sentence did not read correctly; = suggested addition is in red type) that can be ignored if needed to = approve - Lines 272-274: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method = uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS and is initiated by the Printer by sending a = Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) = [RFC5246] handshake.
 
Alan Sukert
Product Security Specialist
Xerox Research and Product = Development/ Product Security and Development Process Controls
Xerox Certified Green = Belt
Alan.Sukert@xerox.com|= tel 585.427.1413
MS= 0111-03A | 800 Phillips Road | Webster, NY 14580 USA
 
-----Original = Message-----
From: pwg-announce <pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org> On Behalf Of Michael = Sweet
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 12:36 PM
To: PWG Announcements <pwg-announce@pwg.org>
Subject: = [PWG-Announce] PWG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods (Ends February = 28, 2019)
 
Hi,
 
[This PWG Last Call starts = today, February 1, 2019, and ends Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 10pm US = Pacific time.]
 
This is the formal announcement of the IPP Authentication = Methods best practice docuemnt, located at:
 
   https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190116.pdf<= o:p class=3D"">
 
The IPP WG has completed = extensive review of the various revisions of this document and a = workgroup last call.
 
The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum of PWG members = (30% or 7 members) must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without = comments), before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote.  = This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review = acknowledgment.  The PWG Definition of the Standards Development = Process Version 3.0 is located at:
 
   https://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf=
 
 
HOW TO RESPOND
 
Send an email with = *exactly* the following subject line format:
 
   Subject: = <Company Name> has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and has = [no] comments
 
 
WHERE TO SEND YOUR = RESPONSE
 
Please do NOT simply reply = to this note on the PWG-Announce list.
 
Please send your response = to *all* of the following email addresses:
 
   ipp at pwg.org (IPP WG mailing list - you must be = subscribed!);
   = smith.kennedy at hp.com (Smith Kennedy, PWG Chair, IPP Authentication = Methods editor)
   blueroofmusic at gmail.com (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary, IPP WG = Co-Chair)
   ptykod = at tykodi.com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair)
   msweet = at apple.com (Mike Sweet, IPP WG Secretary)
 
Note: You must be = subscribed to the IPP WG mailing list to send email to that list - = otherwise your email will be silently discarded. You can subscribe to = this list at:
 
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boundary="===============7293312831901562086==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============7293312831901562086== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_i+7dPBlKtufOzYw1/arY2A)" --Boundary_(ID_i+7dPBlKtufOzYw1/arY2A) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Smith, I like it, definitely clearer. > On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp wrote: > > Thanks Cihan! I didn't go back to the document and read the full paragraph (first paragraph from section 4.7) in place before replying to Alan. The current paragraph is this: > > The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS is initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. The Client then sends the X.509 certificate identifying the User and/or Client in a corresponding Certificate message, and a subsequent Certificate Verify message to prove to the Printer that the Client has the corresponding private key. If the Client has no configured X.509 certificate to provide, it sends an empty Certificate message. > > After re-reading it, I think it ought to be this: > > The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This authentication method is initiated by the Printer when it sends a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. The Client responds by sending a Certificate message with the X.509 certificate identifying the User and/or Client. The Client then sends a Certificate Verify message to prove to the Printer that the Client has the corresponding private key. If the Client has no X.509 certificate to provide to the Printer, it sends an empty Certificate message. > > Any objections to this rewrite? > > Smith > > > >> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:54 AM, Cihan Colakoglu > wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I see a repetition below (blue color) >> >> The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This authentication method is initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. >> >> I guess the intent was the following? >> >> The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This authentication methodis initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. >> >> >> Best Regards, >> Cihan Colakoglu >> Kyocera Document Solutions >> >> From: ipp > On Behalf Of Ira McDonald via ipp >> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 8:21 AM >> To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) >; Ira McDonald > >> Cc: ipp@pwg.org ; Alan Sukert > >> Subject: Re: [IPP] Subject: Xerox has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and has one comment >> >> Hi Smith and Alan, >> >> I strongly prefer the two sentences solution. >> >> We should all try to avoid long sentences with operational content in more than one >> subclause, because they interfere w/ clarity. >> >> Cheers, >> - Ira >> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 10:17 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) > wrote: >> Thanks Alan! This editorial feedback is important, and I'll make this change before we go to Formal Vote. As an alternative, I could replace the "and" with a period, and make the second half of the (pretty long) sentence a new sentence, like so: >> >> The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This authentication method is initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. >> >> Any strong opinions either way? I'm also not sure that I should be capitalizing "Authentication" in "The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method...". >> >> Smith >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 26, 2019, at 6:01 AM, Sukert, Alan > wrote: >> >> Minor comment (grammatically sentence did not read correctly; suggested addition is in red type) that can be ignored if needed to approve - Lines 272-274: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS and is initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. >> >> Alan Sukert >> Product Security Specialist >> Xerox Research and Product Development/ Product Security and Development Process Controls >> Xerox Certified Green Belt >> Alan.Sukert@xerox.com | tel 585.427.1413 >> MS 0111-03A | 800 Phillips Road | Webster, NY 14580 USA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pwg-announce > On Behalf Of Michael Sweet >> Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 12:36 PM >> To: PWG Announcements > >> Subject: [PWG-Announce] PWG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods (Ends February 28, 2019) >> >> Hi, >> >> [This PWG Last Call starts today, February 1, 2019, and ends Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 10pm US Pacific time.] >> >> This is the formal announcement of the IPP Authentication Methods best practice docuemnt, located at: >> >> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190116.pdf >> >> The IPP WG has completed extensive review of the various revisions of this document and a workgroup last call. >> >> The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum of PWG members (30% or 7 members) must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote. This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment. The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at: >> >> https://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf >> >> >> HOW TO RESPOND >> >> Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: >> >> Subject: has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and has [no] comments >> >> >> WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE >> >> Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list. >> >> Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses: >> >> ipp at pwg.org (IPP WG mailing list - you must be subscribed!); >> smith.kennedy at hp.com (Smith Kennedy, PWG Chair, IPP Authentication Methods editor) >> blueroofmusic at gmail.com (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair) >> ptykod at tykodi.com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair) >> msweet at apple.com (Mike Sweet, IPP WG Secretary) >> >> Note: You must be subscribed to the IPP WG mailing list to send email to that list - otherwise your email will be silently discarded. You can subscribe to this list at: >> >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pwg-announce mailing list >> pwg-announce@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_i+7dPBlKtufOzYw1/arY2A) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Smith,

I = like it, definitely clearer.


On Feb = 28, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architect) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:

Thanks Cihan! I didn't = go back to the document and read the full paragraph (first paragraph = from section 4.7) in place before replying to Alan. The current = paragraph is this:

The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method = uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS is initiated by the Printer by sending a = Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) = [RFC5246] handshake. The Client then sends the X.509 certificate = identifying the User and/or Client in a corresponding Certificate = message, and a subsequent Certificate Verify message to prove to the = Printer that the Client has the corresponding private key. If the Client = has no configured X.509 certificate to provide, it sends an empty = Certificate message.

After re-reading it, I think it ought to be this:

The = 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS. This = authentication method is initiated by the Printer when it sends a Certificate = Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] = handshake. The Client responds = by sending a Certificate message with the X.509 certificate = identifying the User and/or Client. The= Client then sends a Certificate Verify message to prove to = the Printer that the Client has the corresponding private key. If the = Client has no X.509 certificate to provide to the Printer, it sends an empty Certificate = message.

Any objections to this rewrite?

Smith



On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:54 AM, Cihan Colakoglu <Cihan.Colakoglu@dda.kyocera.com> wrote:

Hello,
 
I see a repetition = below (blue color)
 
The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. = X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This authentication method is initiated by the Printer = by sending a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer = Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.
 
I = guess the intent was the following?
 
The 'certificate' IPP Authentication = method uses X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS.  This authentication methodis initiated by = the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during the = Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.
 
 
Best Regards,
Cihan Colakoglu
Kyocera Document = Solutions
 
From: ipp <ipp-bounces@pwg.org> On Behalf = Of Ira McDonald = via ipp
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 = 8:21 AM
To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless = & Standards Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com>; Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
Cc: ipp@pwg.org; Alan Sukert = <alan.sukert@xerox.com>
Subject: Re: [IPP] Subject: Xerox = has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and has one comment
 
Hi Smith = and Alan,
 
I strongly prefer the two sentences = solution.
 
We should all try to avoid long = sentences with operational content in more than one
subclause, because they interfere w/ clarity.
 
Cheers,
- Ira
 
Ira McDonald (Musician / = Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility = Solutions WG
Co-Chair - TCG Metadata = Access Protocol SG

Chair - Linux = Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer = Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing = Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer = MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
PO Box 221  = Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434

 
 
On Tue, Feb = 26, 2019 at 10:17 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) = <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
Thanks Alan! This editorial feedback is important, and I'll = make this change before we go to Formal Vote. As an alternative, I could = replace the "and" with a period, and make the second half of the (pretty = long) sentence a new sentence, like so:
 
The 'certificate' IPP Authentication = method uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS.= This authentication method is initiated by the Printer = by sending a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer = Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.
 
Any strong opinions = either way? I'm also not sure that I should be capitalizing = "Authentication" in "The 'certificate' IPP Authentication = method...".
 

Smith



On Feb 26, 2019, at 6:01 AM, Sukert, = Alan <alan.sukert@xerox.com> wrote:
 
Minor comment (grammatically sentence did not read correctly; = suggested addition is in red type) that can be ignored if needed to = approve - Lines 272-274: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method = uses X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate = authentication via TLS and is initiated by the Printer by sending a = Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) = [RFC5246] handshake.
 
Alan Sukert
Product Security Specialist
Xerox Research and Product = Development/ Product Security and Development Process Controls
Xerox Certified Green = Belt
Alan.Sukert@xerox.com|= tel 585.427.1413
MS= 0111-03A | 800 Phillips Road | Webster, NY 14580 USA
 
-----Original = Message-----
From: pwg-announce <pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org> On Behalf Of Michael = Sweet
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 12:36 PM
To: PWG Announcements <pwg-announce@pwg.org>
Subject: = [PWG-Announce] PWG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods (Ends February = 28, 2019)
 
Hi,
 
[This PWG Last Call starts = today, February 1, 2019, and ends Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 10pm US = Pacific time.]
 
This is the formal announcement of the IPP Authentication = Methods best practice docuemnt, located at:
 
   https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190116.pdf<= o:p class=3D"">
 
The IPP WG has completed = extensive review of the various revisions of this document and a = workgroup last call.
 
The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum of PWG members = (30% or 7 members) must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without = comments), before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote.  = This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review = acknowledgment.  The PWG Definition of the Standards Development = Process Version 3.0 is located at:
 
   https://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf=
 
 
HOW TO RESPOND
 
Send an email with = *exactly* the following subject line format:
 
   Subject: = <Company Name> has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and has = [no] comments
 
 
WHERE TO SEND YOUR = RESPONSE
 
Please do NOT simply reply = to this note on the PWG-Announce list.
 
Please send your response = to *all* of the following email addresses:
 
   ipp at pwg.org (IPP WG mailing list - you must be = subscribed!);
   = smith.kennedy at hp.com (Smith Kennedy, PWG Chair, IPP Authentication = Methods editor)
   blueroofmusic at gmail.com (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary, IPP WG = Co-Chair)
   ptykod = at tykodi.com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair)
   msweet = at apple.com (Mike Sweet, IPP WG Secretary)
 
Note: You must be = subscribed to the IPP WG mailing list to send email to that list - = otherwise your email will be silently discarded. You can subscribe to = this list at:
 
   https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp
 
 
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_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

= --Boundary_(ID_i+7dPBlKtufOzYw1/arY2A)-- --===============7293312831901562086== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============7293312831901562086==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Feb 28 09:48:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5052130EE9 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:48:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.47 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.47 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AC_DIV_BONANZA=0.001, BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.428, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o-LLW_DBn8j1 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:48:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.pwg.org (mail.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96625130E9F for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:48:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 7E0C43F4C; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 17:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F39E26BC; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 17:48:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 67EA1477; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 17:48:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.dda.kyocera.com (mail.dda.kyocera.com [209.58.215.12]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E94EC477 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 17:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from MAXINE.ktd.com (10.10.10.26) by MAXINE.ktd.com (10.10.10.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.1034.26; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:48:01 -0800 Received: from MAXINE.ktd.com ([10.10.10.26]) by MAXINE.ktd.com ([10.10.10.26]) with mapi id 15.01.1034.033; Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:48:01 -0800 To: "Sukert, Alan" , "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect)" , Ira McDonald Thread-Topic: [IPP] Subject: Xerox has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and has one comment Thread-Index: AdTN0iALAjyEuejtTBqmgwTDF+gTAwAFDokAABMAfIAAR4/IYAAav9UAAAAcUAD//6MFpw== Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 17:48:01 +0000 Message-ID: References: <0CCC9D91-B207-417C-BF6C-7DC8F871735C@hp.com> <10381231c7a548b8aea95abbd14b3e8e@dda.kyocera.com> , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.58.39.236] MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] Subject: Xerox has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and has one comment X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Cihan Colakoglu via ipp Reply-To: Cihan Colakoglu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1115323760019663977==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1115323760019663977== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_c995683c3d2846e9b1d1fc56e14d102cddakyoceracom_" --_000_c995683c3d2846e9b1d1fc56e14d102cddakyoceracom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looks good, thank you. Cihan ________________________________ From: Sukert, Alan Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 7:19:26 AM To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect); Cihan Colakoglu; Ira M= cDonald Cc: ipp@pwg.org Subject: RE: [IPP] Subject: Xerox has reviewed the IPP Authentication Metho= ds and has one comment No objections from me. Alan From: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:16 AM To: Cihan Colakoglu ; Sukert, Alan ; Ira McDonald Cc: ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: [IPP] Subject: Xerox has reviewed the IPP Authentication Metho= ds and has one comment Thanks Cihan! I didn't go back to the document and read the full paragraph = (first paragraph from section 4.7) in place before replying to Alan. The cu= rrent paragraph is this: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authenti= cation via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS is initiated by th= e Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during the Transport Lay= er Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. The Client then sends the X.509 cert= ificate identifying the User and/or Client in a corresponding Certificate m= essage, and a subsequent Certificate Verify message to prove to the Printer= that the Client has the corresponding private key. If the Client has no co= nfigured X.509 certificate to provide, it sends an empty Certificate messag= e. After re-reading it, I think it ought to be this: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authenti= cation via TLS. This authentication method is initiated by the Printer when= it sends a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security= (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. The Client responds by sending a Certificate me= ssage with the X.509 certificate identifying the User and/or Client. The Cl= ient then sends a Certificate Verify message to prove to the Printer that t= he Client has the corresponding private key. If the Client has no X.509 cer= tificate to provide to the Printer, it sends an empty Certificate message. Any objections to this rewrite? Smith On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:54 AM, Cihan Colakoglu > wrote: Hello, I see a repetition below (blue color) The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authenti= cation via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This authenticati= on method is initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request mess= age during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. I guess the intent was the following? The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authenti= cation via TLS. This authentication methodis initiated by the Printer by s= ending a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (T= LS) [RFC5246] handshake. Best Regards, Cihan Colakoglu Kyocera Document Solutions From: ipp > On Behalf Of Ir= a McDonald via ipp Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 8:21 AM To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) >; Ira McDonald > Cc: ipp@pwg.org; Alan Sukert > Subject: Re: [IPP] Subject: Xerox has reviewed the IPP Authentication Metho= ds and has one comment Hi Smith and Alan, I strongly prefer the two sentences solution. We should all try to avoid long sentences with operational content in more = than one subclause, because they interfere w/ clarity. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 10:17 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Archi= tect) > wrote: Thanks Alan! This editorial feedback is important, and I'll make this chang= e before we go to Formal Vote. As an alternative, I could replace the "and"= with a period, and make the second half of the (pretty long) sentence a ne= w sentence, like so: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate authenti= cation via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This authenticati= on method is initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request mess= age during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. Any strong opinions either way? I'm also not sure that I should be capitali= zing "Authentication" in "The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method...". Smith On Feb 26, 2019, at 6:01 AM, Sukert, Alan > wrote: Minor comment (grammatically sentence did not read correctly; suggested add= ition is in red type) that can be ignored if needed to approve - Lines 272-= 274: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.509 certificate aut= hentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS and is initia= ted by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during the Tran= sport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. Alan Sukert Product Security Specialist Xerox Research and Product Development/ Product Security and Development Pr= ocess Controls Xerox Certified Green Belt Alan.Sukert@xerox.com| tel 585.427.1413 MS 0111-03A | 800 Phillips Road | Webster, NY 14580 USA -----Original Message----- From: pwg-announce > On Behalf Of Michael Sweet Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 12:36 PM To: PWG Announcements > Subject: [PWG-Announce] PWG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods (Ends Feb= ruary 28, 2019) Hi, [This PWG Last Call starts today, February 1, 2019, and ends Thursday, Febr= uary 28, 2019 at 10pm US Pacific time.] This is the formal announcement of the IPP Authentication Methods best prac= tice docuemnt, located at: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190116.pdf The IPP WG has completed extensive review of the various revisions of this = document and a workgroup last call. The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum of PWG members (30% or 7 members= ) must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any d= ocument can progress to PWG Formal Vote. This PWG Last Call is NOT a Forma= l Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment. The PWG Definition = of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at: https://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf HOW TO RESPOND Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: Subject: has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and = has [no] comments WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list. Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses: ipp at pwg.org (IPP WG mailing list - you must be subscribed!); smith.kennedy at hp.com (Smith Kennedy, PWG Chair, IPP Authentication Met= hods editor) blueroofmusic at gmail.com (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Cha= ir) ptykod at tykodi.com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair) msweet at apple.com (Mike Sweet, IPP WG Secretary) Note: You must be subscribed to the IPP WG mailing list to send email to th= at list - otherwise your email will be silently discarded. You can subscrib= e to this list at: https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ pwg-announce mailing list pwg-announce@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce --_000_c995683c3d2846e9b1d1fc56e14d102cddakyoceracom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looks good, thank you.

Cihan
From: Sukert, Alan <Alan= .Sukert@xerox.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 7:19:26 AM
To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect); Cihan Colak= oglu; Ira McDonald
Cc: ipp@pwg.org
Subject: RE: [IPP] Subject: Xerox has reviewed the IPP Authenticatio= n Methods and has one comment
 

No objections from me.

 

Alan

From: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standard= s Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:16 AM
To: Cihan Colakoglu <Cihan.Colakoglu@dda.kyocera.com>; Sukert,= Alan <Alan.Sukert@xerox.com>; Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.c= om>
Cc: ipp@pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] Subject: Xerox has reviewed the IPP Authenticatio= n Methods and has one comment

 

Thanks Cihan! I didn't go back to the document and r= ead the full paragraph (first paragraph from section 4.7) in place before r= eplying to Alan. The current paragraph is this:

 

The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.5= 09 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via= TLS is initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message d= uring the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake. The Client then sends the X.509 certificate ide= ntifying the User and/or Client in a corresponding Certificate message, and= a subsequent Certificate Verify message to prove to the Printer that the C= lient has the corresponding private key. If the Client has no configured X.509 certificate to provide, it send= s an empty Certificate message.

 

After re-reading it, I think it ought to be this:

 

The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses X.5= 09 certificate authentication via TLS. T= his authentication method is initiated by the Printer when it sends a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handsh= ake. The Client responds by sending a Ce= rtificate message with the X.509 certificate identifying the User an= d/or Client. The Client then sends a Certifica= te Verify message to prove to the Printer that the Client has the correspon= ding private key. If the Client has no X.509 certificate to provide to the Printer, it sends an empty Cert= ificate message.

 

Any objections to this rewrite?

 

Smith



On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:54 AM, Cihan Colakoglu <Cihan.Colakoglu@dda.kyocera= .com> wrote:

 

Hello,=

 =

I see a repetition bel= ow (blue color)

 =

The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses=  X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. This&n= bsp;authentication method is initiated by the Printer by send= ing a Certificate Request message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.

 =

I guess the intent was= the following?

 =

The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses=  X.509 certificate authentication via TLS.  This authentication methodis initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request = message during the Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.=

 =

 =

Best Regards,Cihan Colakoglu=

Kyocera Document Solut= ions

 =

From:&n= bsp;ipp <ipp-bounces@pwg.o= rg> On Behalf O= f Ira McDonald via ipp
Sent: Tuesday, Feb= ruary 26, 2019 8:21 AM
To: Kennedy, Smith= (Wireless & Standards Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com>; Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
Cc: ipp@pwg.org; Alan Sukert <alan.sukert@xerox.com>
Subject: Re: [IPP]= Subject: Xerox has reviewed the IPP Authentication Methods and has one com= ment

 

Hi Smith and Alan,

 

I strongly prefer the two sentences solution.

 

We should all try to avoid long sentences with o= perational content in more than one

subclause, because they interfere w/ clarity.

 

Cheers,

- Ira

 

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG

Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<= /o:p>

Chair - Linux Fou= ndation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http:/= /sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http:/= /sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: bl= ueroofmusic@gmail.com
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434

 

 

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 10:17 AM Kennedy, Smith = (Wireless & Standards Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Thanks Alan! This editorial feedback is importan= t, and I'll make this change before we go to Formal Vote. As an alternative= , I could replace the "and" with a period, and make the second half of the (pretty long) sentence a new sentence, like so= :

 

The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method uses= X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication= via TLS. This authentication method is initiat= ed by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during the Trans= port Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.

 

Any strong opinions either way? I'm also not sur= e that I should be capitalizing "Authentication" in "The 'ce= rtificate' IPP Authentication method...".

 

Smith





On Feb 26, 2019, at 6:01 AM, Sukert, Alan <alan.sukert@xerox.com> wrote:

 

Minor comment (grammatically sentence did not read c= orrectly; suggested addition is in red type) that can be ignored if needed = to approve - Lines 272-274: The 'certificate' IPP Authentication method use= s X.509 certificate authentication via TLS. X.509 certificate authentication via TLS and is initiated by the Printer by sending a Certificate Request message during t= he Transport Layer Security (TLS) [RFC5246] handshake.

 

Alan Sukert

Product Security Specialist

Xerox Research and Product Development/ Product Secu= rity and Development Process Controls

Xerox Certified Green Belt

Alan.Sukert@xerox.com| tel 5= 85.427.1413

MS 0111-03A | 800 Phillips Road | Webster, NY 14580 = USA

 

-----Original Message-----
From: pwg-announce <pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org> On Behalf Of Michael Sweet
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 12:36 PM
To: PWG Announcements <pwg-announce@pwg.org> Subject: [PWG-Announce] PWG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods (Ends Feb= ruary 28, 2019)

 

Hi,

 

[This PWG Last Call starts today, February 1, 2019, = and ends Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 10pm US Pacific time.]

 

This is the formal announcement of the IPP Authentic= ation Methods best practice docuemnt, located at:

 

 

The IPP WG has completed extensive review of the var= ious revisions of this document and a workgroup last call.

 

The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum of PWG me= mbers (30% or 7 members) must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without = comments), before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote.  This = PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment.  The PWG Definition of th= e Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at:

 

 

 

HOW TO RESPOND

 

Send an email with *exactly* the following subject l= ine format:

 

   Subject: <Company Name> has revie= wed the IPP Authentication Methods and has [no] comments

 

 

WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE

 

Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-A= nnounce list.

 

Please send your response to *all* of the following = email addresses:

 

   ipp at pwg.org (IPP WG mailing list - you must be subscribed!);

   smith.kennedy at = hp.com (Smith Kennedy, PWG Chair, IPP Authentication Methods editor)

   blueroofmusic at = gmail.co= m (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)

   ptykod at = tykodi.com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair)

   msweet at = apple.com (Mike Sweet, IPP WG Secretary)

 

Note: You must be subscribed to the IPP WG mailing l= ist to send email to that list - otherwise your email will be silently disc= arded. You can subscribe to this list at:

 

 

 

____________________________________________________= _____

Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

 

_______________________________________________<= o:p>

pwg-announce mailing list

 

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boundary="===============1570751996488465792==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1570751996488465792== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4AA1B7D4-80E2-4D78-95A3-9C83A27A5287"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_4AA1B7D4-80E2-4D78-95A3-9C83A27A5287 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3A2169B2-552F-4D30-A035-FB876CF7BF99" --Apple-Mail=_3A2169B2-552F-4D30-A035-FB876CF7BF99 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks for the feedback Chris! I also received this feedback from = Canon's Rick Yardumian (CC'ed). In my LCRC draft, I've resolved this = issue by rewriting 3.3.2 to more meaningfully describe an authorization = failure. Here's the rewrite. Any objections or suggestions? Harry is also visiting Andy's office and wants to print from his laptop. = He uses his laptop to discover available printers, and selects one = listed. The printer is configured to limit access to only authorized = users. The printer challenges the laptop for authentication, and the laptop = presents an authentication dialog to Harry. Harry has an account, and = enters the account's username and password. The printer accepts these = credentials, but that account is not authorized to access that printer. = Harry's laptop shows a notification dialog expressing this to Harry. = Harry clicks =E2=80=9COK=E2=80=9D and looks for a pencil. Smith > On Feb 28, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Rizzo, Christopher = wrote: >=20 > Just curious, but section 3.3 Exceptions of this document has sections = 3.3.1 and 3.3.2 which are pretty much exact duplicates of each other, = exception being Lisa vs. Harry. Was this intentional? >=20 > Thanks, > Chris >=20 >=20 > Christopher Rizzo > Xerox Corporation >=20 > GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology >=20 > 26600 SW Parkway Ave. >=20 > Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251 >=20 > Phone: (585) 314-6936 >=20 > Email: Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com >=20 > "The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the = remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own = programs." > -Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn 1/17/19, 4:00 PM, "ipp on behalf of Kennedy, Smith = (Wireless & Standards Architect)" wrote: >=20 > Greetings, >=20 > This message begins the IPP workgroup Last Call of the IPP = Authentication Methods best practice draft, available at: >=20 > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.odt = > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.pdf = > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117-rev.pdf = >=20 > Please respond with any feedback or comments by doing a "reply all" to = this message. >=20 > This last call will end on January 31, 2019 at 10pm PT. >=20 > Cheers, > Smith >=20 > /** > Smith Kennedy > HP Inc. > */ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_3A2169B2-552F-4D30-A035-FB876CF7BF99 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Thanks for the feedback Chris! I also received this feedback = from Canon's Rick Yardumian (CC'ed). In my LCRC draft, I've resolved = this issue by rewriting 3.3.2 to more meaningfully describe an = authorization failure. 

Here's the rewrite. Any objections or suggestions?

Harry is also visiting Andy's office and wants to print from = his laptop. He uses his laptop to discover available printers, and = selects one listed. The printer is configured to limit access to only = authorized users. 

The printer challenges the laptop for authentication, and the = laptop presents an authentication dialog to Harry. Harry has an account, = and enters the account's username and password. The printer accepts = these credentials, but that account is not authorized to access that = printer. Harry's laptop shows a notification dialog expressing this to = Harry. Harry clicks =E2=80=9COK=E2=80=9D and looks for a = pencil.

Smith



On Feb 28, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Rizzo, Christopher <Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com> wrote:

Just curious, but section 3.3 Exceptions of this = document has sections 3.3.1 and 3.3.2 which are pretty much exact = duplicates of each other, exception being Lisa vs. Harry. Was this = intentional?

Thanks,
Chris


Christopher Rizzo
Xerox Corporation

GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology

26600 SW Parkway Ave.

Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251

Phone: (585) 314-6936

Email: = Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com

"The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the = remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own = programs."
-Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer

=EF=BB=BFOn 1/17/19, 4:00 PM, "ipp on behalf of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless = & Standards Architect)" <ipp-bounces@pwg.org on behalf of smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Greetings,

This message begins the IPP workgroup Last Call of the IPP = Authentication Methods best practice draft, available at:

https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.odt<= br class=3D""> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.pdf<= br class=3D""> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117-rev.pdf<= /a>

Please respond with any feedback or comments by doing a "reply all" = to this message.

This last call will end on January 31, 2019 at 10pm PT.
=
Cheers,
Smith

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HP Inc.
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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: "Kennedy, Smith \(Wireless & Standards Architect\) via ipp" Reply-To: "Kennedy, Smith \(Wireless & Standards Architect\)" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6271173329375365617==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6271173329375365617== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_11EAAE4F-9834-429A-A1E9-7D3C841ACF2D"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_11EAAE4F-9834-429A-A1E9-7D3C841ACF2D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi there, As we just discussed in the IPP WG meeting today, I will take my latest = JPS2v2 draft and start removing stuff to produce the first draft of "IPP = Enterprise Printing Extensions". What should I remove from "IPP = Enterprise Printing Extensions"? To Be Removed =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D - "job-save-disposition" and whatever we don't like about the "Job Save = and Reprint" feature - "proof-print" (because we are going to redefine how that works too = since it has crossover with Job Storage) - Stuff Mike is moving over to IPP Job Extensions v1.1 (Cancel-Jobs, = Cancel-My-Jobs, some others) - Deprecated or obsoleted operations and attributes To Be Added =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D - Smith's "job-storage" collection and related attributes (draft, to be = debated) - Smith's "job-print-password" and related attributes (draft, to be = debated) - Use case and requirements first drafts for the NextGen IPP Job = Accounting solution (to replace "document-format-details" since that is = now deprecated / obsoleted) What else? 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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Michael Sweet via ipp Reply-To: Michael Sweet Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3363152245157014075==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3363152245157014075== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_u0y2EztwMoP/3AmbYQaUkg)" --Boundary_(ID_u0y2EztwMoP/3AmbYQaUkg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Smith, > On Feb 28, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp wrote: > > Hi there, > > As we just discussed in the IPP WG meeting today, I will take my latest JPS2v2 draft and start removing stuff to produce the first draft of "IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions". What should I remove from "IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions"? > > To Be Removed > ============================ > - "job-save-disposition" and whatever we don't like about the "Job Save and Reprint" feature Agreed. > - "proof-print" (because we are going to redefine how that works too since it has crossover with Job Storage) I *thought* we weren't decided on this - the main issues brought up at the F2F were: - There is no way to discard a proof print job, either explicitly or implicitly (i.e. how long is the job retained for?) - the "job-retain-until" Job Template attribute was a potential fix for this and the more general Job Storage use case. - Today's Clients can just submit a new job with the same document data for the "production run"; whether this matches with enterprise/light production work flows is a question I'd like to answer. IMHO we really just need to answer the second question before we decide proof-print's fate. > - Stuff Mike is moving over to IPP Job Extensions v1.1 (Cancel-Jobs, Cancel-My-Jobs, some others) Aside from the (REQUIRED) Cancel-Jobs, Cancel-My-Jobs, and Close-Job operations, I think I should move over the following (mostly OPTIONAL) attributes to Job Extensions v1.1: - job-creation-attributes-supported - job-hold-until-time/-supported - job-ids/-supported (REQUIRED) - job-spooling-supported - media-col.media-tooth - media-col.media-grain - media-col.media-thickness - media-col-database - printer-detailed-status-messages - which-jobs-supported and the (OPTIONAL) keyword values for: - pdl-override-supported - which-jobs and the amended semantics for Get-Printer-Attributes (media-col-database), Get-Jobs (which-jobs), Hold-Job (job-hold-until-time), and Set-Job-Attributes (job-hold-until-time). These all have a clear focus on jobs and job submission/creation and are definitely not limited to the scope of Enterprise Printing. There is a slight process issue we need to discuss, however: the new Job Extensions will have conformance requirements for required operations and attributes that were not in v1.0 of Job Extensions but *were* in v1.0 of JPS2 - the errata process doesn't allow us to change conformance requirements without going through PWG Last Call and Formal Vote, but then we are kindof merging JOBEXT and JPS2 into a single errata update and publishing a new Enterprise Printing specification with updated JPS2 content. Fuzzy logic... :) Anyways, since this constitutes all of the non-obsoleted/migrated content from JPS2, I'd prefer to update things in one shot rather than processing two documents. (I'll also need to update the v1.1 version of IPP Everywhere for these attributes/operations) > - Deprecated or obsoleted operations and attributes IMHO, the following attributes should be obsoleted: - feed-orientation/-default/-supported: Really bad way for Client to tell Printer which way the media is loaded; media-feed-orientation replaces it in JPS3... - font-name-requested/-default/-supported: No sense specifying a font name when the size is useless, Unicode plain text printing often requires multiple fonts - font-size-requested/-default/-supported: Font sizes in integer points are useless - job-save-disposition/-default/-supported: Poorly specified, not interoperable - pdl-init-file/-default/-supported: Poorly specified, not interoperable, too much focus on proprietary PDLs - job-save-printer-make-and-model: Supports job-save-disposition - max-save-info-supported: Supports job-save-disposition and we can remove the "media-type" registrations since MSN2 imported them. > To Be Added > ============================ > - Smith's "job-storage" collection and related attributes (draft, to be debated) > - Smith's "job-print-password" and related attributes (draft, to be debated) > - Use case and requirements first drafts for the NextGen IPP Job Accounting solution (to replace "document-format-details" since that is now deprecated / obsoleted) - job-retain-until/-default/-supported (how long is job retained/stored?) _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_u0y2EztwMoP/3AmbYQaUkg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Smith,

On Feb 28, 2019, at 4:29 PM, = Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> = wrote:

Hi there,

As we just discussed = in the IPP WG meeting today, I will take my latest JPS2v2 draft and = start removing stuff to produce the first draft of "IPP Enterprise = Printing Extensions". What should I remove from "IPP Enterprise Printing = Extensions"?

To Be Removed
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
- "job-save-disposition" and = whatever we don't like about the "Job Save and Reprint" feature

Agreed.

- "proof-print" = (because we are going to redefine how that works too since it has = crossover with Job Storage)

I = *thought* we weren't decided on this - the main issues brought up at the = F2F were:

- There is no way to = discard a proof print job, either explicitly or implicitly (i.e. how = long is the job retained for?) - the "job-retain-until" Job Template = attribute was a potential fix for this and the more general Job Storage = use case.
- Today's Clients can just submit a new job with the = same document data for the "production run"; whether this matches with = enterprise/light production work flows is a question I'd like to = answer.

IMHO we really just need to = answer the second question before we decide proof-print's = fate.

- Stuff Mike is moving over = to IPP Job Extensions v1.1 (Cancel-Jobs, Cancel-My-Jobs, some others)

Aside from = the (REQUIRED) Cancel-Jobs, Cancel-My-Jobs, and Close-Job operations, I = think I should move over the following (mostly OPTIONAL) attributes to = Job Extensions v1.1:

- = job-creation-attributes-supported
- = job-hold-until-time/-supported
- job-ids/-supported = (REQUIRED)
- job-spooling-supported
- = media-col.media-tooth
- media-col.media-grain
- = media-col.media-thickness
- = media-col-database
- = printer-detailed-status-messages
- = which-jobs-supported

and the (OPTIONAL) keyword values = for:

- = pdl-override-supported
- which-jobs

and the amended semantics for = Get-Printer-Attributes (media-col-database), Get-Jobs (which-jobs), = Hold-Job (job-hold-until-time), and Set-Job-Attributes = (job-hold-until-time).

These all = have a clear focus on jobs and job submission/creation and are = definitely not limited to the scope of Enterprise Printing.  There = is a slight process issue we need to discuss, however: the new Job = Extensions will have conformance requirements for required operations = and attributes that were not in v1.0 of Job Extensions but *were* in = v1.0 of JPS2 - the errata process doesn't allow us to change conformance = requirements without going through PWG Last Call and Formal Vote, but = then we are kindof merging JOBEXT and JPS2 into a single errata update = and publishing a new Enterprise Printing specification with updated JPS2 = content.  Fuzzy logic... :)

Anyways, since this constitutes all of the = non-obsoleted/migrated content from JPS2, I'd prefer to update things in = one shot rather than processing two documents.

(I'll also need to update the v1.1 version of IPP = Everywhere for these attributes/operations)

- Deprecated or obsoleted = operations and attributes

IMHO, the following attributes should be = obsoleted:

- = feed-orientation/-default/-supported: Really bad way for Client to tell = Printer which way the media is loaded; media-feed-orientation replaces = it in JPS3...
- font-name-requested/-default/-supported: No = sense specifying a font name when the size is useless, Unicode plain = text printing often requires multiple fonts
- = font-size-requested/-default/-supported: Font sizes in integer points = are useless
- job-save-disposition/-default/-supported: Poorly = specified, not interoperable
- = pdl-init-file/-default/-supported: Poorly specified, not interoperable, = too much focus on proprietary PDLs
- = job-save-printer-make-and-model: Supports = job-save-disposition
- max-save-info-supported: Supports = job-save-disposition

and we can = remove the "media-type" registrations since MSN2 imported = them.

To Be Added
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
- Smith's "job-storage" collection = and related attributes (draft, to be debated)
- Smith's = "job-print-password" and related attributes (draft, to be debated)
- Use case and requirements = first drafts for the NextGen IPP Job Accounting solution (to replace = "document-format-details" since that is now deprecated / obsoleted)

- = job-retain-until/-default/-supported (how long is job = retained/stored?)

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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Rick Yardumian Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 17:50:22 -0500 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 Thread-Topic: [IPP] WG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <20190228225026.88CE53F41@www.pwg.org> Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: wamwagner--- via ipp Reply-To: wamwagner@comcast.net Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3395897411371795714==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3395897411371795714== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7B414F48-C42A-43C7-B76D-5B7CA597C30D_" --_7B414F48-C42A-43C7-B76D-5B7CA597C30D_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Smith, Sorry, my confusion continues. Your new Authorization example may be valid= , but it seems odd to me that someone would have an account in a printer bu= t not have authority to print at all. Conditional authority, restricting u= se to certain times or restricting color, or quantity, etc. would be more r= ealistic, but that is at the IPP level and does not appear to be addresse= d in this specification.=20 The title is Authentication Methods, and although I may have missed it, I = do not think that it does much with authorization (at least not by the prin= ter), which would occur after successful Authentication. Perhaps the Author= ization use case should be put in the out of scope section? Thanks, Bill W. From: Rizzo, Christopher via ipp Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 4:12 PM To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect); Rick Yardumian Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods This update looks good to me. Thanks, Chris Christopher Rizzo Xerox Corporation GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology 26600 SW Parkway Ave. Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251 Phone: (585) 314-6936 Email: Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com "The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remai= nder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs.= " -Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer From: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect)" Date: Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 12:36 PM To: Christopher Rizzo , Rick Yardumian Cc: PWG Workgroup Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods Thanks for the feedback Chris! I also received this feedback from Canon's R= ick Yardumian (CC'ed). In my LCRC draft, I've resolved this issue by rewrit= ing 3.3.2 to more meaningfully describe an authorization failure.=C2=A0 Here's the rewrite. Any objections or suggestions? Harry is also visiting Andy's office and wants to print from his laptop. He= uses his laptop to discover available printers, and selects one listed. Th= e printer is configured to limit access to only authorized users.=C2=A0 The printer challenges the laptop for authentication, and the laptop presen= ts an authentication dialog to Harry. Harry has an account, and enters the = account's username and password. The printer accepts these credentials, but= that account is not authorized to access that printer. Harry's laptop show= s a notification dialog expressing this to Harry. Harry clicks =E2=80=9COK= =E2=80=9D and looks for a pencil. Smith On Feb 28, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Rizzo, Christopher wrote: Just curious, but section 3.3 Exceptions of this document has sections 3.3.= 1 and 3.3.2 which are pretty much exact duplicates of each other, exception= being Lisa vs. Harry. Was this intentional? Thanks, Chris Christopher Rizzo Xerox Corporation GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology 26600 SW Parkway Ave. Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251 Phone: (585) 314-6936 Email: Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com "The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remai= nder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs.= " -Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer =EF=BB=BFOn 1/17/19, 4:00 PM, "ipp on behalf of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & = Standards Architect)" wrote: Greetings, This message begins the IPP workgroup Last Call of the IPP Authentication M= ethods best practice draft, available at: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.odt https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117-rev.pdf Please respond with any feedback or comments by doing a "reply all" to this= message. This last call will end on January 31, 2019 at 10pm PT. Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy HP Inc. */ _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --_7B414F48-C42A-43C7-B76D-5B7CA597C30D_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

Smith,

=  

Sorry, =C2=A0my confusion continues. Y= our new Authorization example may be valid, but it seems odd to me that som= eone would have an account in a printer but not have authority to print at = all.=C2=A0 Conditional authority, restricting use to certain times or restr= icting color, or quantity, etc. would be more realistic, but that is at the= IPP level=C2=A0 and does not =C2=A0appear to be addressed in this specific= ation.

 

T= he title is Authentication=C2=A0 Methods, and although I may have missed it= , I do not think that it does much with authorization (at least not by the = printer), which would occur after successful Authentication. Perhaps the Au= thorization =C2=A0use case should =C2=A0be put in the out of scope section?=

Thanks, Bill W.

 = ;

 

<= o:p> 

From: Rizzo, Christopher via ipp
Sent: Thursday, February 28,= 2019 4:12 PM
To: Kennedy= , Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect); Rick Yardumian
Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call= : IPP Authentication Methods

 

This update looks good to me.

 

Thanks,

Chris

&nb= sp;

Christopher Rizzo

<= span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Xerox Corporation

GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology

=

26600 SW = Parkway Ave.

Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251

Phone: (585) 314-6936

Email: Christophe= r.Rizzo@xerox.com

 

"The realization came= over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was g= oing to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."

-M= aurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer

 

From: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless &a= mp; Standards Architect)" <smith.kennedy@hp.com>
Date: Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 12:36 PM
To: Christopher Rizzo &l= t;Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com>, Rick Yardumian <RYardumian@ciis.canon= .com>
Cc: PWG Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods

 

Thanks for the feedback Chris! I also received this feedback from Canon'= s Rick Yardumian (CC'ed). In my LCRC draft, I've resolved this issue by rew= riting 3.3.2 to more meaningfully describe an authorization failure. <= o:p>

 

Here's the rewrite. Any objections or suggestions?

 

Harry is also visiting Andy's of= fice and wants to print from his laptop. He uses his laptop to discover ava= ilable printers, and selects one listed. The printer is configured to limit= access to only authorized users. 

 

The print= er challenges the laptop for authentication, and the laptop presents an aut= hentication dialog to Harry. Harry has an account, and enters the account's= username and password. The printer accepts these credentials, but that acc= ount is not authorized to access that printer. Harry's laptop shows a notif= ication dialog expressing this to Harry. Harry clicks =E2=80=9COK=E2=80=9D = and looks for a pencil.

 

Smith

 

On Feb 28, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Rizzo, Christopher <Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com> wrote:<= /o:p>

 

Just curious, but section 3.3 E= xceptions of this document has sections 3.3.1 and 3.3.2 which are pretty mu= ch exact duplicates of each other, exception being Lisa vs. Harry. Was this= intentional?

Thanks,
Chris


Christopher Rizzo
Xerox= Corporation

GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology

26600 SW Parkwa= y Ave.

Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251

Phone: (585) 314-6936
Email: Christopher.Rizzo@x= erox.com

"The realization came over me with full force that= a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding e= rrors in my own programs."
-Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer P= ioneer

=EF=BB=BFOn 1/17/19, 4:00 PM, "ipp on behalf of Kennedy,= Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect)" <ipp-bounces@pwg.org on behalf of smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Greetings,
This message begins the IPP workgroup Last Call of the IPP Authentica= tion Methods best practice draft, available at:

https= ://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.odt
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.pdf
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117-rev.pdf<= br>
Please respond with any feedback or comments by doing a "reply = all" to this message.

This last call will end on January 31, 20= 19 at 10pm PT.

Cheers,
Smith

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boundary="===============3978470553410791670==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3978470553410791670== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F6BC2169-9025-4D8D-B22E-4C6DE9A590CF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_F6BC2169-9025-4D8D-B22E-4C6DE9A590CF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6165CB8C-5DD5-4F9D-987C-E3119155F92D" --Apple-Mail=_6165CB8C-5DD5-4F9D-987C-E3119155F92D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:50 PM, wamwagner@comcast.net wrote: >=20 > Smith, >=20 > Sorry, my confusion continues. Your new Authorization example may be = valid, but it seems odd to me that someone would have an account in a = printer but not have authority to print at all. Conditional authority, = restricting use to certain times or restricting color, or quantity, etc. = would be more realistic, but that is at the IPP level and does not = appear to be addressed in this specification. I think it is insofar as the authentication and/or authorization = failures are reported back via IPP or its HTTP or TLS transports. I have = updated sequence diagrams that indicate this visually. But here's an = updated use case that might satisfy your request for an exception use = case that more accurately illustrates a real world circumstance. Harry is an intern who works at Andy's office, and he wants to print = some photos from his laptop. He uses his laptop to discover available = printers, and selects one listed. The printer is configured to limit = access to color printing to only authorized users, and interns are not = authorized to use this feature. His laptop is using an older client that = doesn't support the IPP Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation, so = features that he isn't allowed to use will be listed in the print = dialog. Harry makes his choices in the print dialog, including selecting = printing in color. Harry clicks "Print" to submit the job to the = printer. The printer challenges the laptop for authentication, and the laptop = presents an authentication dialog to Harry. Harry enters his account's = username and password. The printer accepts these credentials, but that = account is not authorized to use the color printing feature. The printer = rejects the job with the explanation that some features are not allowed, = and lists the barred feature. Harry is a bit disappointed that the user = experience is a bit awkward***, and is also disappointed that he cannot = print in color. He abandons trying to print the photos because he = doesn't want black-and-white prints. *** (The user experience would be better with = Get-User-Printer-Attributes because the color printing feature wouldn't = even be shown to the user.) Here's another one that uses Get-User-Printer-Attributes Harry is an intern who works at Andy's office, and he wants to print = some photos from his laptop. He uses his laptop to discover available = printers, and selects one listed. The printer is configured to limit = access to color printing to only authorized users, and interns are not = authorized to use this feature. His laptop has a modern IPP Client that = supports the IPP Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation, so features that = he isn't allowed to use will not be listed in the print dialog. When he selects the printer, the laptop sends the = Get-User-Printer-Attributes IPP operation to request the list of = authorized features available to Harry's account. The printer responds = to the laptop with an authentication challenge. The laptop has stored = single sign-on credentials, so it uses those to avoid bothering its user = with a distraction. The printer accepts these credentials, and provides = the list of features his account is authorized to use. The laptop shows = this set of features. Harry is disappointed that he cannot print in = color, so he abandons trying to print the photos because he doesn't want = black-and-white prints. Does either of these clarify things? >=20 > The title is Authentication Methods, and although I may have missed = it, I do not think that it does much with authorization (at least not by = the printer), which would occur after successful Authentication. Perhaps = the Authorization use case should be put in the out of scope section? I think authorization drives the demand for authentication. Hopefully = the updated use cases above, combined with the new sequence diagrams, = will help make that more clear. The original goal of this paper was to = talk about how the various authentication methods corresponding to the = keywords for "uri-authentication-supported" could integrate into a print = workflow, which is an unconventional user experience if you only think = of web authentication involving web browsers. > Thanks, Bill W. >=20 >=20 >=20 > From: Rizzo, Christopher via ipp > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 4:12 PM > To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) = ; Rick Yardumian = > Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector > Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods >=20 > This update looks good to me. >=20 > Thanks, > Chris >=20 > Christopher Rizzo > Xerox Corporation > GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology > 26600 SW Parkway Ave. > Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251 > Phone: (585) 314-6936 > Email: Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com >=20 > "The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the = remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own = programs." > -Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer >=20 > From: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect)" = > Date: Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 12:36 PM > To: Christopher Rizzo , Rick Yardumian = > Cc: PWG Workgroup > Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods >=20 > Thanks for the feedback Chris! I also received this feedback from = Canon's Rick Yardumian (CC'ed). In my LCRC draft, I've resolved this = issue by rewriting 3.3.2 to more meaningfully describe an authorization = failure. >=20 > Here's the rewrite. Any objections or suggestions? >=20 > Harry is also visiting Andy's office and wants to print from his = laptop. He uses his laptop to discover available printers, and selects = one listed. The printer is configured to limit access to only authorized = users. >=20 > The printer challenges the laptop for authentication, and the laptop = presents an authentication dialog to Harry. Harry has an account, and = enters the account's username and password. The printer accepts these = credentials, but that account is not authorized to access that printer. = Harry's laptop shows a notification dialog expressing this to Harry. = Harry clicks =E2=80=9COK=E2=80=9D and looks for a pencil. >=20 > Smith >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Feb 28, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Rizzo, Christopher = > = wrote: >=20 > Just curious, but section 3.3 Exceptions of this document has sections = 3.3.1 and 3.3.2 which are pretty much exact duplicates of each other, = exception being Lisa vs. Harry. Was this intentional? >=20 > Thanks, > Chris >=20 >=20 > Christopher Rizzo > Xerox Corporation >=20 > GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology >=20 > 26600 SW Parkway Ave. >=20 > Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251 >=20 > Phone: (585) 314-6936 >=20 > Email: Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com = >=20 > "The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the = remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own = programs." > -Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn 1/17/19, 4:00 PM, "ipp on behalf of Kennedy, Smith = (Wireless & Standards Architect)" on behalf of smith.kennedy@hp.com = > wrote: >=20 > Greetings, >=20 > This message begins the IPP workgroup Last Call of the IPP = Authentication Methods best practice draft, available at: >=20 > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.odt = > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.pdf = > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117-rev.pdf = >=20 > Please respond with any feedback or comments by doing a "reply all" to = this message. >=20 > This last call will end on January 31, 2019 at 10pm PT. >=20 > Cheers, > Smith >=20 > /** > Smith Kennedy > HP Inc. > */ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = --Apple-Mail=_6165CB8C-5DD5-4F9D-987C-E3119155F92D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:50 PM, wamwagner@comcast.net= wrote:

Smith,
 
Sorry, my = confusion continues. Your new Authorization example may be valid, but it = seems odd to me that someone would have an account in a printer but not = have authority to print at all. Conditional authority, restricting use = to certain times or restricting color, or quantity, etc. would be more = realistic, but that is at the IPP level and does not appear to be = addressed in this specification.

I think it is insofar as the authentication and/or = authorization failures are reported back via IPP or its HTTP or TLS = transports. I have updated sequence diagrams that indicate this = visually. But here's an updated use case that might satisfy your request = for an exception use case that more accurately illustrates a real world = circumstance.

Harry is = an intern who works at Andy's office, and he wants to print some photos = from his laptop. He uses his laptop to discover available printers, and = selects one listed. The printer is configured to limit access to color = printing to only authorized users, and interns are not authorized to use = this feature. His laptop is using an older client that doesn't support = the IPP Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation, so features that he isn't = allowed to use will be listed in the print dialog. Harry makes his = choices in the print dialog, including selecting printing in color. = Harry clicks "Print" to submit the job to the printer.

The printer challenges the laptop for = authentication, and the laptop presents an authentication dialog to = Harry. Harry enters his account's username and password. The printer = accepts these credentials, but that account is not authorized to use the = color printing feature. The printer rejects the job with the explanation = that some features are not allowed, and lists the barred feature. Harry = is a bit disappointed that the user experience is a bit awkward***, and = is also disappointed that he cannot print in color. He abandons trying = to print the photos because he doesn't want black-and-white = prints.

***  (The user = experience would be better with Get-User-Printer-Attributes because the = color printing feature wouldn't even be shown to the = user.)

Here's = another one that uses Get-User-Printer-Attributes

Harry is an intern who works at = Andy's office, and he wants to print some photos from his laptop. He = uses his laptop to discover available printers, and selects one listed. = The printer is configured to limit access to color printing to only = authorized users, and interns are not authorized to use this feature. = His laptop has a modern IPP Client that supports the IPP = Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation, so features that he isn't allowed = to use will not be listed in the print dialog. 

When he selects the printer, the laptop sends the = Get-User-Printer-Attributes IPP operation to request the list of = authorized features available to Harry's account. The printer responds = to the laptop with an authentication challenge. The laptop has stored = single sign-on credentials, so it uses those to avoid bothering its user = with a distraction. The printer accepts these credentials, and provides = the list of features his account is authorized to use. The laptop shows = this set of features. Harry is disappointed that he cannot print in = color, so he abandons trying to print the photos because he doesn't want = black-and-white prints.

Does either of these clarify = things?

 
The title = is Authentication  Methods, and although I may have missed it, I do = not think that it does much with authorization (at least not by the = printer), which would occur after successful Authentication. Perhaps the = Authorization  use case should  be put in the out of scope = section?

I = think authorization drives the demand for authentication. Hopefully the = updated use cases above, combined with the new sequence diagrams, will = help make that more clear. The original goal of this paper was to talk = about how the various authentication methods corresponding to the = keywords for "uri-authentication-supported" could integrate into a print = workflow, which is an unconventional user experience if you only think = of web authentication involving web browsers.

Thanks, = Bill W.
 
 
 
From: Rizzo, Christopher via = ipp
Sent: Thursday, February 28, = 2019 4:12 PM
To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & = Standards Architect); Rick Yardumian
Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call: = IPP Authentication Methods
 
This update looks good to me.
 
Thanks,
Chris
 
Christopher Rizzo
Xerox = Corporation
GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology
26600 SW = Parkway Ave.
Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251
Phone: (585) = 314-6936
Email: Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com
 
"The = realization came over me with full force that a good part of the = remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own = programs."
-Maurice = Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer
 
From: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & = Standards Architect)" <smith.kennedy@hp.com>
Date: Thursday, February 28, = 2019 at 12:36 PM
To: Christopher Rizzo = <Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com>, Rick Yardumian <RYardumian@ciis.canon.com>
Cc: PWG = Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call: = IPP Authentication Methods
 
Thanks for the feedback Chris! I also received this feedback = from Canon's Rick Yardumian (CC'ed). In my LCRC draft, I've resolved = this issue by rewriting 3.3.2 to more meaningfully describe an = authorization failure. 
 
Here's the rewrite. Any objections or suggestions?
 
Harry is also visiting = Andy's office and wants to print from his laptop. He uses his laptop to = discover available printers, and selects one listed. The printer is = configured to limit access to only authorized users. 
 
The printer challenges the laptop for = authentication, and the laptop presents an authentication dialog to = Harry. Harry has an account, and enters the account's username and = password. The printer accepts these credentials, but that account is not = authorized to access that printer. Harry's laptop shows a notification = dialog expressing this to Harry. Harry clicks =E2=80=9COK=E2=80=9D and = looks for a pencil.
 

Smith

 

On Feb 28, 2019, at 12:33 = PM, Rizzo, Christopher <Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com> wrote:
 

Just curious, but section 3.3 = Exceptions of this document has sections 3.3.1 and 3.3.2 which are = pretty much exact duplicates of each other, exception being Lisa vs. = Harry. Was this intentional?

Thanks,
Chris


Christopher = Rizzo
Xerox Corporation

GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology

26600 SW Parkway Ave.

Wilsonville,= OR 97070-9251

Phone: (585) 314-6936

Email: Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com

"The realization came over me with full force that a good = part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors = in my own programs."
-Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a = Computer Pioneer

=EF=BB=BFOn 1/17/19, 4:00 = PM, "ipp on behalf of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architect)" <ipp-bounces@pwg.org on behalf of smith.kennedy@hp.com> = wrote:

Greetings,

This message begins the IPP workgroup Last Call of the IPP = Authentication Methods best practice draft, available at:

https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.odt<= br class=3D"">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.pdf<= br class=3D"">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117-rev.pdf<= /a>

Please respond with any feedback or = comments by doing a "reply all" to this message.

This last call will end on January 31, 2019 at 10pm PT.

Cheers,
Smith

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