Hi Mike,

Agreed - this seems= like an appropriate Job state reason.

Cheers,

- Ira

Ira McDo= nald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Sol= utions WG

Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG

Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE= -ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing P= rotocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof M= usic / High North Inc
http://sites.google.c= om/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.googl= e.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
(permanent) PO Box = 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

(to 30 April = 2020) 203 W Oak St=C2=A0 Ellettsville, IN 47429=C2=A0 812-876-9970

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 5:11 PM Michael Swee= t via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
=

All,

Just to conclude the legacy client support discussion for accounting, there= is an existing "job-state-reasons" keyword value 'job-held-f= or-review' that would work for the "hold job" behavior for le= gacy Clients.

________________________
Michael Sweet

_______________________________________________
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ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

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In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 04:10:47 -0500 Message-ID: To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards)" , Ira McDonald Cc: PWG IPP Workgroup Subject: Re: [IPP] WebEx meeting ended on its own X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Ira McDonald via ipp Reply-To: Ira McDonald Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2066510524333835791==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============2066510524333835791== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bb7ea8059de4a627" --000000000000bb7ea8059de4a627 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, My apologies if my leaving (as one of the group of "PWG Host" participants) caused the call to end - WebEx shouldn't have done that, since I joined at the start of the day a few minutes after Smith had started the meeting. Talk to you all in 7 hours... Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com (permanent) PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 (to 30 April 2020) 203 W Oak St Ellettsville, IN 47429 812-876-9970 On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 11:09 PM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp wrote: > Actually that was probably the cause! =F0=9F=98=80 > > Cheers, > Smith > --- > Smith Kennedy > smith.kennedy@hp.com > > > On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:38 PM, Sean Kau wrote: > > =EF=BB=BF > And here I thought it was because Ira left. See everybody in the morning= ! > > Sean > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 2:10 PM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) > via ipp wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Sorry for the unceremonious ending to the F2F teleconference just now. >> WebEx decided on its own to kick us out. Talk to you tomorrow! >> >> Smith >> >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >> HP Inc. >> */ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> > > > -- > Sean Kau > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > --000000000000bb7ea8059de4a627 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

My apologies if my leavi= ng (as one of the group of "PWG Host" participants)

cau= sed the call to end - WebEx shouldn't have done that, since I joined at=

the start of the day a few minutes after Smith had started the m= eeting.

Talk to you all in 7 hours...

Cheers,

- Ira

<= div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - = TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG

Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access = Protocol SG

Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printin= g WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO= PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Pr= inter MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
(permanent) PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434=

(to 30 April 2020) 203 W Oak St=C2=A0 Ellettsville, IN 47429=C2= =A0 812-876-9970

<= /div>

On Wed, Feb 5, 202= 0 at 11:09 PM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:

Actually that was probably the cause! =F0=9F=98=80

Cheer= s,

Smith

---

Smith Kennedy

smith.kennedy@hp.com

On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:38 PM, Sean Kau <skau@chromium.org> w= rote:

=EF=BB=BF
And here I thought it was because Ira left.=C2=A0 See ever= ybody in the morning!

Sean

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 2:10 PM Kenned= y, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:

Hi all,

=C2=A0

Sorry for the unceremonious ending to the F2F teleconference just now.= WebEx decided on its own to kick us out. Talk to you tomorrow!

=C2=A0

Smith

=C2=A0

/**

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Smith Kennedy

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 HP Inc.

*/

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

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--000000000000bb7ea8059de4a627-- --===============2066510524333835791== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============2066510524333835791==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Feb 6 07:26:08 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A9C1208FE for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 07:26:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L01QanwXMaEY for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 07:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.pwg.org (mail.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F407A120905 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 07:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id AAA448AD7; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 15:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EC42459; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 15:26:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 742063A6B; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 15:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.msweet.org (mail.msweet.org [173.255.209.91]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E142479 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 15:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imacpro.lan (unknown [67.204.236.184]) by mail.msweet.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 52CBB80CCB; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 15:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 $3608.60.0.2.5$) In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 10:26:00 -0500 Message-Id: <444BE739-B0EC-4E65-930B-1D8109110FF8@msweet.org> References: To: Sean Kau X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) Cc: PWG IPP Workgroup Subject: Re: [IPP] Procedure for submitting and errata update for an accepted standard X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Michael Sweet via ipp Reply-To: Michael Sweet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Sean, Basically, you can: 1. Let one of the WG officers know you want to work on it. 2. Download the Word version of the published specification from the standards (replace the .pdf extension with .docx or .doc, depending on the age; I'll see about updating the standards page to include the Word link as well...) 3. If necessary (not for 5100.1, which has been updated very recently), download the current PWG template from https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/templates/wd-template.docx and save it in Word as a template. 4. Edit the Word version and upload it to the FTP server in the pub/pwg/ipp/wd directory. When you edit the Word document, make sure to turn change tracking on - that allows others to see what you've changed. For previously-published standards you'll need to revert some of the header content (replace PWG Candidate Standard 5100.NN-YYYY with Working Draft) and likely update the copyright to extend to the current year. (I usually do that before turning on change tracking) You'll also need to add a "Changes" section at the back with a subsection for each revision you post - look at some of the existing working drafts for an idea of the content. And finally make sure to turn line numbers on for the main body (under the layout controls in Word). Before you post an update, save the document with the date added to the filename, e.g. "wd-ippfinishings22-20200206.docx" would be the filename for an errata update of IPP Finishings (to version 2.2) on February 6, 2020. Then save a "redlined" PDF version with revisions (wd-ippfinishings22-20200206-rev.pdf) and a clean PDF version without the revisions showing (wd-ippfinishings22-20200206.pdf). All three get uploaded to the PWG FTP server - you can request the login details directly from any of the PWG or WG officers. [PS - I'm going to work on a new web page for this with some screenshots to make this a bit clearer...] > On Feb 5, 2020, at 10:43 PM, Sean Kau via ipp wrote: > > Per outstanding errata for 5100.1 and the call to incorporate outstanding errata into our docs, do we have an established procedure I should follow? > > -- > Sean Kau > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp ________________________ Michael Sweet _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Feb 6 08:51:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8221200F6 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 08:51:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=hp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l8cvTiKs_gxr for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 08:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.pwg.org (mail.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646EA120073 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 08:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id DF8E8ACFC; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 16:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9607A3CCC; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 16:51:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 83202626A; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 16:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from us-smtp-delivery-162.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-162.mimecast.com [63.128.21.162]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 050E52687 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 16:51:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hp.com; s=mimecast20180716; t=1581007892; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=kV33vkjq/SRM272yg0nc4Loq3lwYWGeesAf/ZE0Sgvw=; b=n15Wyvlk5zTnaXQc662P0Cl/DAXQpcFAE8mnRVdhq+gcfgDI2cc8UM0QYCEvltcFJFiuX9 9A/Y78Epp6lJqte1YpOfCpkp9CmfvUEwhJf8MKeLAuDGXEeoFLac9DZYv5mpFMT0cIGetX LfMdHIT3oDKosPr3qR4rxgtQTK+3RnY= Received: from NAM11-CO1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-co1nam11lp2175.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.56.175]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-136-diovRmohP6qhCrtRjtGo9Q-1; Thu, 06 Feb 2020 11:51:23 -0500 X-MC-Unique: diovRmohP6qhCrtRjtGo9Q-1 Received: from DF4PR8401MB0633.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (10.169.84.143) by DF4PR8401MB0651.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (10.169.84.20) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.2707.21; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 16:51:21 +0000 Received: from DF4PR8401MB0633.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::e014:c655:583a:ba89]) by DF4PR8401MB0633.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::e014:c655:583a:ba89%9]) with mapi id 15.20.2686.035; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 16:51:21 +0000 To: Ira McDonald Thread-Topic: [IPP] Quick followup for the end of our first day at the F2F... Thread-Index: AQHV3HuuGAMjViN02E2SXZdbhmglDagN4EWAgACCEwA= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 16:51:21 +0000 Message-ID: <37EC70D5-6601-4512-84F0-816E4177F6BD@hp.com> References:

BTW, 'job-held-for-review' i= s defined in 5100.16. In 5100.11, we defined 'job-password-wait'. In IPP En= terprise Printing Extensions v2.0, we are defining two new keywords for "jo= b-held-until" and will have associated "job-state-reasons" With all of thes= e other specs open, should we move it out of 5100.16 and put it into, for i= nstance, IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions v2.0?

Just throwing that out there - I'll add a note = about this to my next draft of EPX so we can revisit interactively.

Smith

/**
Smith Ke= nnedy
HP Inc.
*/

On= Feb 6, 2020, at 2:05 AM, Ira McDonald via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Agreed - this seems like an appropriate Job state reason.

Cheers,
- I= ra

=
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software = Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
=
Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WGSecretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-C= hair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Desig= nated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High N= orth Inc
http://sites= .google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
ma= ilto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
(permanent) PO Box 221 G= rand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434
(to 30 April = 2020) 203 W Oak St Ellettsville, IN 47429 812-876-9970

=
On Wed, Fe= b 5, 2020 at 5:11 PM Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
All,

Just to conclude the legacy client support discussion for accounting, there= is an existing "job-state-reasons" keyword value 'job-held-for-review' tha= t would work for the "hold job" behavior for legacy Clients.

________________________
Michael Sweet

_______________________________________________
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https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

_______________________________________________
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<37EC70D5-6601-4512-84F0-816E4177F6BD@hp.com> To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) Cc: PWG IPP Workgroup Subject: Re: [IPP] Quick followup for the end of our first day at the F2F... X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Michael Sweet via ipp Reply-To: Michael Sweet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Smith, 5100.16 is transaction-based printing which covers a bunch of paid printing scenarios, so WRT accounting I think we are OK leaving it there. :) > On Feb 6, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) wrote: > > Also agree! > > BTW, 'job-held-for-review' is defined in 5100.16. In 5100.11, we defined 'job-password-wait'. In IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions v2.0, we are defining two new keywords for "job-held-until" and will have associated "job-state-reasons" With all of these other specs open, should we move it out of 5100.16 and put it into, for instance, IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions v2.0? > > Just throwing that out there - I'll add a note about this to my next draft of EPX so we can revisit interactively. > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > HP Inc. > */ > >> On Feb 6, 2020, at 2:05 AM, Ira McDonald via ipp wrote: >> >> Hi Mike, >> >> Agreed - this seems like an appropriate Job state reason. >> >> Cheers, >> - Ira >> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> (permanent) PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >> (to 30 April 2020) 203 W Oak St Ellettsville, IN 47429 812-876-9970 >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 5:11 PM Michael Sweet via ipp wrote: >> All, >> >> Just to conclude the legacy client support discussion for accounting, there is an existing "job-state-reasons" keyword value 'job-held-for-review' that would work for the "hold job" behavior for legacy Clients. >> >> ________________________ >> Michael Sweet >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > ________________________ Michael Sweet _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Feb 6 13:11:44 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D9D120289 for ; 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boundary="===============4499194736403492277==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4499194736403492277== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b12839059deeb7d4" --000000000000b12839059deeb7d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" We've defined job-error-action in NODRIVER ( https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200204-rev.pdf). ipp-attribute-fidelity was created in STD92 ( https://tools.ietf.org/html/std92) and states: o If the Client supplies 'true', the Printer MUST reject the request if the Client supplies unsupported Job Template attributes. job-error-action states that it applies when "an error is encountered in a document during processing of the job" and includes an option to "suspend-job". Does job-error-action only pertain to issues with document format? Should ipp-attribute-fidelity take precedence for issues with the Job Ticket? As I read it, one possible (and undesirable) implementation of these two attributes would be that we could suspend a job in response to a bad job ticket. -- Sean Kau --000000000000b12839059deeb7d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We've defined job-error-action in NODRIVER (http= s://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200204-rev.pdf). =C2= =A0ipp-attribute-fidelity was created in STD92 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/std92) and states:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0o =C2=A0If the Client supplies 'true', the Printer M= UST reject the request
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 if the Client supplies unsup= ported Job Template attributes.

job-error-action states that it appl= ies when "an error is encountered in a document during processing of t= he job" and includes an option to "suspend-job".

Does= job-error-action only pertain to issues with document format?=C2=A0 Should= ipp-attribute-fidelity take precedence for issues with the Job Ticket?
=
As I read it, one possible (and undesirable) implementation of these tw= o attributes would be that we could suspend a job in response to a bad job = ticket.

--
Sean Kau

--000000000000b12839059deeb7d4-- --===============4499194736403492277== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============4499194736403492277==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Feb 6 14:08:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C963512011B for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:08:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iJqCXkTeIt5w for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:08:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.pwg.org (mail.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9396120111 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:08:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 48896AD03; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 22:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64793626A; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 22:08:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 37430626B; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 22:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.msweet.org (mail.msweet.org [173.255.209.91]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EBF3CCC for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 22:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imacpro.lan (unknown [67.204.236.184]) by mail.msweet.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B6AE80CCB; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 22:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 $3608.60.0.2.5$) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 17:08:34 -0500 Message-Id: To: PWG IPP Workgroup X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) Subject: [IPP] Minutes posted from this week's F2F meetings X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Michael Sweet via ipp Reply-To: Michael Sweet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted the minutes from this week's IPP workgroup F2F meetings to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20200205.pdf New action items: - Smith to contact Mopria for sanitized accounting use cases we can look at - Mike to review Validate-Document in NODRIVER Our next conference call is on February 13, 2020 at 3pm ET. ________________________ Michael Sweet _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Feb 6 14:10:00 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23414120824 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:10:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R2s-5BdFgfcS for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.pwg.org (mail.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9101D120819 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 563D6AD05; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 22:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7CB2683; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 22:09:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 66E70626D; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 22:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.msweet.org (mail.msweet.org [173.255.209.91]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4384D2683 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 22:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imacpro.lan (unknown [67.204.236.184]) by mail.msweet.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54A8280CCB; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 22:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 $3608.60.0.2.5$) In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 17:09:52 -0500 Message-Id: <484F4D87-E2A2-4A24-AFA6-C125EBF33508@msweet.org> References: To: Sean Kau X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) Cc: PWG IPP Workgroup Subject: Re: [IPP] job-error-action (in NODRIVER) interaction with ipp-attribute-fidelity X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Michael Sweet via ipp Reply-To: Michael Sweet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Sean, job-error-action only applies to processing jobs. ipp-attribute-fidelity is used at time of job creation - if the check fails, no job is created and so job-error-action would not apply. > On Feb 6, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Sean Kau via ipp wrote: > > We've defined job-error-action in NODRIVER (https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200204-rev.pdf). ipp-attribute-fidelity was created in STD92 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/std92) and states: > > o If the Client supplies 'true', the Printer MUST reject the request > if the Client supplies unsupported Job Template attributes. > > job-error-action states that it applies when "an error is encountered in a document during processing of the job" and includes an option to "suspend-job". > > Does job-error-action only pertain to issues with document format? Should ipp-attribute-fidelity take precedence for issues with the Job Ticket? > > As I read it, one possible (and undesirable) implementation of these two attributes would be that we could suspend a job in response to a bad job ticket. > > -- > Sean Kau > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp ________________________ Michael Sweet _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Feb 7 09:38:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4E5120059 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2020 09:38:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=hp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SWYJQp6ykTTq for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2020 09:38:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.pwg.org (mail.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB1012097B for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2020 09:38:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 066696272; Fri, 7 Feb 2020 17:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5491F2687; Fri, 7 Feb 2020 17:38:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 82A6F2687; Fri, 7 Feb 2020 17:38:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from us-smtp-delivery-162.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-162.mimecast.com [63.128.21.162]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04E282459 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2020 17:38:15 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hp.com; s=mimecast20180716; t=1581097094; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=flydeuExdb+9sN0f07dWmroYo7YoaBfZTI/jRQotMjo=; b=KKbeKWaRZ+8gfR2Pd+7qTx0Xc8rLNPPCyF5JF2IwvAVHFeqaZFfK1cYD1CsRvfAObhhB0A yXRfhi1J/PQI880rkmBBHuFScDtsL+1+6MwkkhyfAScUTR5zpwdt2FRA45O9hV5ABcNxKU m+4pXPyTZoGgs0cMvhBV90IkLGHTSXo= Received: from NAM12-BN8-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn8nam12lp2171.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.55.171]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-390-7ZldebsbPj2_vlUBNdnDUw-1; Fri, 07 Feb 2020 12:38:08 -0500 X-MC-Unique: 7ZldebsbPj2_vlUBNdnDUw-1 Received: from DF4PR8401MB0633.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (10.169.84.143) by DF4PR8401MB1020.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (10.169.93.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.2707.21; Fri, 7 Feb 2020 17:38:07 +0000 Received: from DF4PR8401MB0633.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::e014:c655:583a:ba89]) by DF4PR8401MB0633.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::e014:c655:583a:ba89%9]) with mapi id 15.20.2707.024; Fri, 7 Feb 2020 17:38:07 +0000 To: Michael Sweet Thread-Topic: [IPP] Quick followup for the end of our first day at the F2F... 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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: "Kennedy, Smith $Wireless & IPP Standards$ via ipp" Reply-To: "Kennedy, Smith $Wireless & IPP Standards$" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6880156881844445207==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6880156881844445207== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_03774D67-2845-4EED-A3F8-A11A881BF7D9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_03774D67-2845-4EED-A3F8-A11A881BF7D9 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2FE75631-753B-48AC-8C26-4B7A52BA4717" --Apple-Mail=_2FE75631-753B-48AC-8C26-4B7A52BA4717 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK! > On Feb 6, 2020, at 9:55 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > Smith, >=20 > 5100.16 is transaction-based printing which covers a bunch of paid printi= ng scenarios, so WRT accounting I think we are OK leaving it there. :) >=20 >=20 > > On Feb 6, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) = wrote: > > > > Also agree! > > > > BTW, 'job-held-for-review' is defined in 5100.16. In 5100.11, we define= d 'job-password-wait'. In IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions v2.0, we are d= efining two new keywords for "job-held-until" and will have associated "job= -state-reasons" With all of these other specs open, should we move it out o= f 5100.16 and put it into, for instance, IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions= v2.0? > > > > Just throwing that out there - I'll add a note about this to my next dr= aft of EPX so we can revisit interactively. > > > > Smith > > > > /** > > Smith Kennedy > > HP Inc. > > */ > > > >> On Feb 6, 2020, at 2:05 AM, Ira McDonald via ipp wrote: > >> > >> Hi Mike, > >> > >> Agreed - this seems like an appropriate Job state reason. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> - Ira > >> > >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > >> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG > >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > >> (permanent) PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > >> (to 30 April 2020) 203 W Oak St Ellettsville, IN 47429 812-876-9970 > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 5:11 PM Michael Sweet via ipp wro= te: > >> All, > >> > >> Just to conclude the legacy client support discussion for accounting, = there is an existing "job-state-reasons" keyword value 'job-held-for-review= ' that would work for the "hold job" behavior for legacy Clients. > >> > >> ________________________ > >> Michael Sweet > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> ipp mailing list > >> ipp@pwg.org > >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > >> _______________________________________________ > >> ipp mailing list > >> ipp@pwg.org > >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > >=20 > ________________________ > Michael Sweet >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_2FE75631-753B-48AC-8C26-4B7A52BA4717 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii OK!

On Feb 6, 2020, at 9:5= 5 AM, Michael Sweet <msw= eet@msweet.org> wrote:

=

Smith,

5100.16 is transaction-based printing which covers a bunch of paid printing= scenarios, so WRT accounting I think we are OK leaving it there. :)

> On Feb 6, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standa= rds) <smith.kennedy@h= p.com> wrote:
>
> Also agree!
>
> BTW, 'job-held-for-review' is defined in 5100.16. In 5100.11, we defin= ed 'job-password-wait'. In IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions v2.0, we are = defining two new keywords for "job-held-until" and will have associated "jo= b-state-reasons" With all of these other specs open, should we move it out = of 5100.16 and put it into, for instance, IPP Enterprise Printing Extension= s v2.0?
>
> Just throwing that out there - I'll add a note about this to my next d= raft of EPX so we can revisit interactively.
>
> Smith
>
> /**
> Smith Kennedy
> HP Inc.
> */
>
>> On Feb 6, 2020, at 2:05 AM, Ira McDonald via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Agreed - this seems like an appropriate Job state reason.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>>
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> = http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>> h= ttp://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>> mailto: blue= roofmusic@gmail.com
>> (permanent) PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434
>> (to 30 April 2020) 203 W Oak St Ellettsville, IN 47429 812-876-9= 970
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 5:11 PM Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> Just to conclude the legacy client support discussion for accounti= ng, there is an existing "job-state-reasons" keyword value 'job-held-for-re= view' that would work for the "hold job" behavior for legacy Clients.
>>
>> ________________________
>> Michael Sweet
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ipp mailing list
>> ipp@pwg.org
>> ht= tps://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp
>> _______________________________________________
>> ipp mailing list
>> ipp@pwg.org
>> ht= tps://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp
>

________________________
Michael Sweet

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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: "Kennedy, Smith $Wireless & IPP Standards$ via ipp" Reply-To: "Kennedy, Smith $Wireless & IPP Standards$" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8107488278071586700==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8107488278071586700== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8B277634-CCAD-4371-9DFA-98E02E8292E4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_8B277634-CCAD-4371-9DFA-98E02E8292E4 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8AE7F9DA-52BD-4610-A8DC-B5493A72DC36" --Apple-Mail=_8AE7F9DA-52BD-4610-A8DC-B5493A72DC36 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi there Still working on an update to IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions v2.0. In t= he process, came across text taken from PWG 5100.11 section 7.8, which says= this, including something highlighted below that is causing me confusion: 7.8 job-recipient-name (name(MAX)) The OPTIONAL =E2=80=9Cjob-recipient-name=E2=80=9D Job Template attribute co= ntains the name of the person that is to receive the output of the job. The= value of the "job-recipient-name" attribute is commonly printed on job she= ets printed with the job. An example of another use of the "job-recipient-n= ame" attribute is if the printer accesses a database to get job delivery in= structions for the recipient of a job. A zero-length value indicates that t= here is no job recipient name. If the client omits this attribute in a create request, the printer MAY use= the =E2=80=9Cjob-recipient-name-default=E2=80=9D attribute value, unless i= t has not been configured by the administrator, or MAY use the =E2=80=9Caut= henticated user=E2=80=9D name (see [MOD1.1] section 8.3), depending on impl= ementation. What is "[MOD1.1]"? It isn't listed in the References section. Smith /** Smith Kennedy HP Inc. */ --Apple-Mail=_8AE7F9DA-52BD-4610-A8DC-B5493A72DC36 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi there

Still working on an update to IPP Enterp= rise Printing Extensions v2.0. In the process, came across text taken from&= nbsp;PWG 5100.11 section 7.8, which says this, including something highligh= ted below that is causing me confusion:

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7.8 job-reci= pient-name (name(MAX))
The OPTIONAL =E2=80=9Cjob-recipient-name=E2=80=9D J= ob Template attribute contains the name of the person that is to receive th= e output of the job. The value of the "job-recipient-name" attribute is commo= nly printed on job sheets printed with the job. An example of another use of the "job-recipient-name" attribute is if = the printer accesses a database to get job delivery instructions for the recipient of a job. A zero-length value indic= ates that there is no job recipient name.
If the client omits this attribute in a create requ= est, the printer MAY use the =E2=80=9Cjob-recipient-name-default=E2=80=9D a= ttribute value, unless it has not been configured by the administrator, or MAY use t= he =E2=80=9Cauthenticated user=E2=80=9D name (see [MOD1.1] section 8.3), depending on implementation.
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What is "[MOD1.1]"? It isn't listed in the References section.

Smith

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Smith Kennedy
= HP Inc.
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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Michael Sweet via ipp Reply-To: Michael Sweet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" U21pdGgsCgpNT0QxLjEgaXMgbGlrZWx5IGFuIG9sZCAocHJlLVJGQzI5MTEpIHJlZmVyZW5jZSBm cm9tIHdoZW4gSlBTMiB3YXMgZmlyc3Qgc3RhcnRlZCAobG9uZyBiZWZvcmUgVG9tIEhhc3Rpbmdz IHdhcyBhc2tlZCB0byB0YWtlIG92ZXIgYW5kICJzcGVuZCBhIGZldyBtb250aHMiIHRvIGZpbmlz aCBpdCB1cCAtIEkgdGhpbmsgaXQgdG9vayAzIHllYXJzLi4uKQoKVGhlIGN1cnJlbnQgcmVmZXJl bmNlIHdvdWxkIGJlIGVpdGhlciBTVEQ5MiBvciBSRkM4MDExICh3aGVyZSBpdCBpcyBub3cgc2Vj dGlvbiA5LjMuLi4pCgoKPiBPbiBGZWIgNywgMjAyMCwgYXQgMTI6NTEgUE0sIEtlbm5lZHksIFNt aXRoIChXaXJlbGVzcyAmIElQUCBTdGFuZGFyZHMpIHZpYSBpcHAgPGlwcEBwd2cub3JnPiB3cm90 ZToKPiAKPiBIaSB0aGVyZQo+IAo+IFN0aWxsIHdvcmtpbmcgb24gYW4gdXBkYXRlIHRvIElQUCBF bnRlcnByaXNlIFByaW50aW5nIEV4dGVuc2lvbnMgdjIuMC4gSW4gdGhlIHByb2Nlc3MsIGNhbWUg YWNyb3NzIHRleHQgdGFrZW4gZnJvbSBQV0cgNTEwMC4xMSBzZWN0aW9uIDcuOCwgd2hpY2ggc2F5 cyB0aGlzLCBpbmNsdWRpbmcgc29tZXRoaW5nIGhpZ2hsaWdodGVkIGJlbG93IHRoYXQgaXMgY2F1 c2luZyBtZSBjb25mdXNpb246Cj4gNy44IGpvYi1yZWNpcGllbnQtbmFtZSAobmFtZShNQVgpKQo+ IAo+IFRoZSBPUFRJT05BTCDigJxqb2ItcmVjaXBpZW50LW5hbWXigJ0gSm9iIFRlbXBsYXRlIGF0 dHJpYnV0ZSBjb250YWlucyB0aGUgbmFtZSBvZiB0aGUgcGVyc29uIHRoYXQgaXMgdG8gcmVjZWl2 ZSB0aGUgb3V0cHV0IG9mIHRoZSBqb2IuIFRoZSB2YWx1ZSBvZiB0aGUgImpvYi1yZWNpcGllbnQt bmFtZSIgYXR0cmlidXRlIGlzIGNvbW1vbmx5IHByaW50ZWQgb24gam9iIHNoZWV0cyBwcmludGVk IHdpdGggdGhlIGpvYi4gQW4gZXhhbXBsZSBvZiBhbm90aGVyIHVzZSBvZiB0aGUgImpvYi1yZWNp cGllbnQtbmFtZSIgYXR0cmlidXRlIGlzIGlmIHRoZSBwcmludGVyIGFjY2Vzc2VzIGEgZGF0YWJh c2UgdG8gZ2V0IGpvYiBkZWxpdmVyeSBpbnN0cnVjdGlvbnMgZm9yIHRoZSByZWNpcGllbnQgb2Yg YSBqb2IuIEEgemVyby1sZW5ndGggdmFsdWUgaW5kaWNhdGVzIHRoYXQgdGhlcmUgaXMgbm8gam9i IHJlY2lwaWVudCBuYW1lLgo+IAo+IElmIHRoZSBjbGllbnQgb21pdHMgdGhpcyBhdHRyaWJ1dGUg aW4gYSBjcmVhdGUgcmVxdWVzdCwgdGhlIHByaW50ZXIgTUFZIHVzZSB0aGUg4oCcam9iLXJlY2lw aWVudC1uYW1lLWRlZmF1bHTigJ0gYXR0cmlidXRlIHZhbHVlLCB1bmxlc3MgaXQgaGFzIG5vdCBi ZWVuIGNvbmZpZ3VyZWQgYnkgdGhlIGFkbWluaXN0cmF0b3IsIG9yIE1BWSB1c2UgdGhlIOKAnGF1 dGhlbnRpY2F0ZWQgdXNlcuKAnSBuYW1lIChzZWUgW01PRDEuMV0gc2VjdGlvbiA4LjMpLCBkZXBl bmRpbmcgb24gaW1wbGVtZW50YXRpb24uIAo+IAo+IAo+IFdoYXQgaXMgIltNT0QxLjFdIj8gSXQg aXNuJ3QgbGlzdGVkIGluIHRoZSBSZWZlcmVuY2VzIHNlY3Rpb24uCj4gCj4gU21pdGgKPiAKPiAv KioKPiAgICAgU21pdGggS2VubmVkeQo+ICAgICBIUCBJbmMuCj4gKi8KPiAKPiBfX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwo+IGlwcCBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QK PiBpcHBAcHdnLm9yZwo+IGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnB3Zy5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9pcHAK Cl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpNaWNoYWVsIFN3ZWV0CgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCmlwcCBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKaXBwQHB3 Zy5vcmcKaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucHdnLm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2lwcAo= From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Feb 10 10:55:12 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F43120818 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 10:55:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 58gz9NsdDmLN for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 10:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.pwg.org (mail.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EBD120019 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 10:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 58C7A3D5A; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 18:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358CD3A5A; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 18:55:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id A935B3A66; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 18:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.msweet.org (mail.msweet.org [173.255.209.91]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9542FC for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 18:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.156] (unknown [209.91.177.58]) by mail.msweet.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1308C80B20; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 18:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 $3608.60.0.2.5$) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 13:55:03 -0500 Message-Id: <6BFFF765-E33E-4CA5-8D8A-0F7A5036072E@msweet.org> To: PWG IPP Workgroup X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) Subject: [IPP] Updated stable drafts of IPP Everywhere/Self-Certification 1.1 documents posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Michael Sweet via ipp Reply-To: Michael Sweet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted stable drafts of the IPP Everywhere v1.1 and IPP Everywhere v1.1 Printer Self-Certification Manual specifications to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20200210.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20200210.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20200210-rev.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert11-20200210.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert11-20200210.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert11-20200210-rev.pdf A beta release of the 1.1 tools will follow tomorrow. ________________________ Michael Sweet _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Feb 11 03:19:49 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DE112007C for ; 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Tue, 11 Feb 2020 11:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.msweet.org (mail.msweet.org [173.255.209.91]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E587126F1 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 11:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mbp16.lan (host-67-204-236-184.public.eastlink.ca [67.204.236.184]) by mail.msweet.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F3C1808BB; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 11:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 $3608.60.0.2.5$) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 06:19:38 -0500 Message-Id: To: PWG IPP Workgroup X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) Subject: [IPP] Updated stable draft of IPP Everywhere v1.1 posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Michael Sweet via ipp Reply-To: Michael Sweet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I've posted another stable draft of the IPP Everywhere v1.1 specification to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20200211.docx https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20200211.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20200211-rev.pdf I've kept the changes from the previous (Feb 10th) version since we (obviously) haven't had a chance to review that since yesterday... This update reflects more editorial changes from a full read-through I did, along with the addition of a few RECOMMENDED and CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED bits for print servers (Logical Devices) and a relaxation of the "printer-supply-xxx" requirements since not all printing technologies use marker supplies (e.g. thermal label printers). ________________________ Michael Sweet _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Feb 11 16:12:26 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3388120846 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:12:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wc_P6zN_KP3c for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.pwg.org (mail.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF812120842 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:12:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 917173A6B; Wed, 12 Feb 2020 00:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924332381; Wed, 12 Feb 2020 00:12:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 8F0133A59; Wed, 12 Feb 2020 00:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.msweet.org (mail.msweet.org [173.255.209.91]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5561626F1 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2020 00:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from michaelswee42e2.lan (host-67-204-236-184.public.eastlink.ca [67.204.236.184]) by mail.msweet.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 84A7480B20; Wed, 12 Feb 2020 00:12:20 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 $3608.60.0.2.5$) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 19:12:19 -0500 Message-Id: <573833FE-6074-4D0E-B957-9AF268742AEA@msweet.org> To: PWG IPP Workgroup X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) Subject: [IPP] BETA: IPP Everywhere v1.1 Printer Self-Certification Tools posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Michael Sweet via ipp Reply-To: Michael Sweet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted the first beta tools for the IPP Everywhere v1.1 Printer Self-Certification Manual to: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert11-20200211-macos.zip https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert11-20200211-rhel.tar.gz https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert11-20200211-ubuntu.tar.gz https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert11-20200211-windows.msi If you have been waiting for the 1.1 tools to start testing your products, please start testing now... :) ________________________ Michael Sweet _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Feb 12 15:03:00 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACE0120026 for ; 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boundary="===============7373459427563662172==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============7373459427563662172== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000804055059e68f8ef" --000000000000804055059e68f8ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Our next IPP WG call will be regular Thursday 13 February 2020 at 12:00-13:30pm US Pacific / 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Topic: IPP WG Every 2 weeks on Thursday 3:00-4:30 pm US Eastern ------------------------------------------------------- WebEx online meeting (join WebEx first, before audio bridge) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=m8952a7e2500bbe43a428c15193736ec0 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". ------------------------------------------------------- Audio Bridge (join audio second w/ unique access code from WebEx) ------------------------------------------------------- Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239 <%28866%29%20469-3239> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300 <%28650%29%20429-3300> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570 <%28408%29%20856-9570> Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio options ("Call Me Back" or VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting. Unique attendee access code: Displayed in the WebEx meeting Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, Roll Call, and Agenda Review - Volunteer as minute taker? (Mike will be on the road) -- Status of all IPP documents in progress up-to-date below (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20200130.pdf -- IPP WG call on 01/30/20 - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20200205.pdf -- IPP sessions at PWG February F2F on 02/05/20 to 02/06/20 (3) Status/Review of various IPP mailing list notes - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2020/020376.html - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-tls12-tls13-february-2020.pptx -- Posted updated TLS/1.2 and TLS/1.3 Highlights slides (February 2020) -- PWG F2F review on 6 February 2020 -- HCD TC review on 13 February 2020 - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2020/020385.html -- Quick followup for the end of our first day at the F2F... - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2020/020387.html -- Procedure for submitting and errata update for an accepted standard - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2020/020394.html -- job-error-action (in NODRIVER) interaction with ipp-attribute-fidelity - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2020/020398.html -- PWG 5100.11 section 7.8: What is "[MOD1.1]"? (4) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20200113.htm - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20200127.htm - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20200210.htm -- see PWG Steering Committee minutes from 01/13/20, 01/27/20, 02/10/20 (5) Status of PWG and IPP WG Formal Approvals and Last Calls (All) * IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrans11-20200128-rev.pdf -- Stable draft - for a Candidate Standard errata update -- IPP WG Last Call ends on 13 February 2020 -- Schedule - Start PWG Call for Objections * IPP Label Printing Extensions v1.0 - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipplabel10-20200128-rev.pdf -- Stable draft - for an IPP Registration -- IPP WG Last Call ends on 13 February 2020 -- Schedule - Approve registration and update IANA Registry (6) Quick Review of IPP Everywhere 1.1 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20200211-rev.pdf -- Stable draft - for a Candidate Standard -- PWG F2F discussion on 5 February 2020 -- Schedule - Start IPP WG Last Call? (7) Quick Review of IPP Everywhere Self-Certification Manual v1.1 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert11-20200210-rev.pdf -- Stable draft - for a Candidate Standard -- PWG F2F discussion on 5 February 2020 -- Schedule - Start IPP WG Last Call? (8) Quick Status of IPP Everywhere v1.1 Printer Self-Certification Tools (Mike) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2020/020402.html -- Beta release - for IPP WG member review on 12 February 2020 -- PWG F2F discussion on 5 February 2020 -- Schedule - Approval w/ IPP Everywhere v1.1 in Q1/Q2 2020 (9) Quick Status of IPP Everywhere v1.0 Printer Self-Certification Tools (Mike) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2020/020383.html -- Beta release - for IPP WG member review on 5 February 2020 -- PWG F2F discussion on 5 February 2020 -- Schedule - Approval w/ IPP Everywhere v1.1 in Q1/Q2 2020 (10) Status of various IPP documents (All) * IPP Encrypted Jobs and Documents (Mike/Smith) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrustnoone10-20200128-rev.pdf -- Interim draft - for a Candidate Standard -- PWG F2F review on 6 February 2020 -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3 2020 * IPP Driverless Printing Extensions v2.0 (Smith) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd-ippnodriver20-20200204-rev.pdf -- Interim draft - for a Candidate Standard -- PWG F2F review on 5-6 February 2020 -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q2 2020 * Job Accounting for IPP v1.0 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippaccounting10-20200129-rev.pdf -- Interim draft - for a Best Practice -- PWG F2F review on 5 February 2020 -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q2 2020 * IPP Production Printing Ext v2.0 (Mike) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippppx20-20191216-rev.pdf -- Prototype draft - for a Candidate Standard -- PWG F2F review on 5 February 2020 -- Just waiting on prototyping in ippsample -- Schedule - Stable draft in Q2 2020 * IPP Enterprise Printing Ext v2.0 (Smith) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippepx20-20191010-rev.docx -- Interim draft - for a Candidate Standard -- PWG F2F skipped on 6 February 2020 -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q2 2020 (11) Open Printing update (Ira) - https://openprinting.github.io - https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc -- OP website is now live w/ IPP Everywhere logo -- OP monthly calls on 01/14/20, 02/11/20 - GSoC 2020 -- Mentor organization applications ended 5 February 2020 -- Mentor organizations announced 20 February 2020 -- OP planning and student search has started (12) Next Meetings - IPP WG call on Thu 27 February 2020 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- regular call - IPP WG call on Thu 12 March 2020 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- regular call Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com (permanent) PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 (to 30 April 2020) 203 W Oak St Ellettsville, IN 47429 812-876-9970 --000000000000804055059e68f8ef Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be regular Thursday 13 Fe= bruary 2020 at
12:00-13:30pm US Pacific / 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern

NOTE: Please USE the *n= ew* WebEx and Audio Bridge below

-----------------------------------------------------= --
Meeting information
----------------------------------------------= ---------
Topic: IPP WG
= Every 2 weeks on Thursday 3:00-4:30 pm US Eastern

---------------------------------------------= ----------
WebEx online meeting (join WebEx first, before audio bridge)
-----------------= --------------------------------------
1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm8952a7e= 2500bbe43a428c15193736ec0
2. If requested, enter your name and email= address.
3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Prin= ting123
4. Click "Join".

-------------------------------------------------------

Audio= Bridge (join audio second = w/ unique access code from WebEx)
-------------------------------= ------------------------

Call-in toll-free number (U= S/Canada): +1 866 469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/C= anada): +1 650 429-3300
Call-in toll number (US/Can= ada): +1 408 856-9570

Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio opti= ons ("Call Me Back" or VoIP) are listed once you joi= n the WebEx meeting.

Unique attendee access code:=C2=A0 Displayed in= the WebEx meeting

= Agenda:=
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, Roll Call, and Agenda Review

- Volunteer as minute taker? (Mik= e will be on the road)
-- Status of all IPP documents in pr= ogress up-to-date below

(2) Approve IPP minutes f= rom previous meetings

- https:/= /ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20200130.pdf
= -- IPP WG call on 01= /30/20

-=20 https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ip= p/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20200205.pdf

-- IPP sessions= at PWG February F2F on 02/05/20 to 02/06/20

(3) Status/Review of various IPP mailing lis= t notes

- http://www.pwg.or= g/archives/ipp/2020/020376.html

- https= ://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-tls12-tls13-february-2020.pptx

-- Posted updated TLS/1.2 and TLS= /1.3 Highlights slides (February 2020)

-- PWG F2F re= view on 6 February 2020

-- HCD TC review on 13 February 20= 20

- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2020/020385.html

-- Quick followup for the end of our first day at the F2F= ...

- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2020/020387.html

-- Procedu= re for submitting and errata update for an accepted standard

- http://www.pwg.o= rg/archives/ipp/2020/020394.html

-- job-error-action (in NODR= IVER) interaction with ipp-attribute-fidelity

- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp= /2020/020398.html

-- PWG 5100.11 section 7.8: What is "[= MOD1.1]"?

(4) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul)

- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-ca= ll-minutes-20200113.htm

- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-ca= ll-minutes-20200127.htm

- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-ca= ll-minutes-20200210.htm

-- see PWG Steering Committee minutes from 01/13/20, 01/27/20, 0= 2/10/20

(5) Status of PWG and IPP WG Formal Approvals and Last Calls (All)

* IPP=20 Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 (Mike)

- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrans11-20200128-rev.pdf

-- Stable draft - for a Candidate Standard errata update

--=20 IPP WG Last Call ends on 13 February 2020

-- Schedule - Start PW= G Call for Objections

* IPP Label Printing Extensi= ons v1.0

- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-i= pplabel10-20200128-rev.pdf

-- Stable draft - for an IPP Regis= tration

--=20 IPP WG Last Call ends on 13 February 2020

-- Schedule - Approve registration and update IANA Registry
<= /div>

(6) Quick Review of IPP Everywhere 1.1 (Mike)

- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg= /ipp/wd/wd-ippeve11-20200211-rev.pdf
-- Stable draft - for a Candidate Standard

-- PWG F2F discussion on 5 February 2020

-- Schedule - Start IPP WG Last Call?

(7) Quick Review of IPP Everywhere Self-Certification Manual v1.1 = (Mike)

- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippevese= lfcert11-20200210-rev.pdf
-- Stable draft - for a Candidate Standard

-- PWG F2F discussion on 5 February 2020

-- Schedule - Start IPP WG Last Call?

(8) Quick Status of IPP Everywh= ere v1.1 Printer Self-Certification Tools (Mike)

- http://www.p= wg.org/archives/ipp/2020/020402.html

-- Beta release - for IP= P WG member review=20 on 12 February 2020

-- PWG F2F discussion on 5 February 2020

-- Schedule - Approval w/ IPP Everywhere v1.1 in Q1/Q2 2020
<= /div>

(9) Quick Status of=C2=A0 IPP Everywhere v1.0 Printer Self-Certification Tools (Mike)

- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2020/020383.html<= /div>

-- Beta release - for IPP WG member review on 5 February 2020
=

-- PWG F2F discussion on 5 February 2020

-- Schedule - Approval w/ IPP Everywhere v1.1 in Q1/Q2 2020

(10) Status of variou= s IPP documents (All)

* IPP Encrypt= ed Jobs and Documents (Mike/Smith)
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrustnoone10-20200128-= rev.pdf

-- Interim draft=20 - for a Candidate Standard

-- PWG F2F review=C2=A0 on 6 February 2020

-- Schedule - Prototype d= raft in Q3 2020

* IPP Driverless Printing Extensions= v2.0 (Smith)

- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd-ippnodriver20-20200204-rev.p= df

-- Interim draft - for a Candidate Standard

-- PWG F2F review=C2=A0 on 5-6 February 2020

-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q2 2020

* Job Accounting for IPP v1.0 (Mike)

- https://ftp.p= wg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippaccounting10-20200129-rev.pdf

-- Interim draft - for a Best Practice

-- PWG F2F review=C2=A0 on 5 February 2020

-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q2 2020

* IPP Production Printing Ext v2.0 (Mike)

- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd= -ippppx20-20191216-rev.pdf

-- Prototype draft - for a Candida= te Standard

-- PWG F2F review=C2=A0 on 5 February 2020

-- Just waiting on prototyping in ippsample

-- Schedule - Stable draft in Q2 2020

* IPP Enterp= rise Printing Ext v2.0 (Smith)

- https://ftp.= pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippepx20-20191010-rev.docx

-- Inter= im draft - for a Candidate Standard

-- PWG F2F skipped on 6 February 2020

-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q2 2020

(11) Open Printin= g update (Ira)

- = https://openpr= inting.github.io

- htt= ps://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc

-- OP website is now live w/ IPP Everywhere logo

-- OP mon= thly calls on 01/14/20, 02/11/20

- GSoC 2020

-- Mentor organization applications ended 5 February 2020=C2=A0
=

-- Mentor organiza= tions announced 20 February 2020

-- OP planning and student search has started

(12) Next Meetings

- IPP WG call on Thu 27 February 2020 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern

-- regular call

- IPP WG call on Thu 12 March 2020 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern

-- regular call

Cheers,

- Ira

Ira McDonald (Mu= sician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions W= G

Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG

Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Pr= inter Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol = WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / H= igh North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/= blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/si= te/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
(permanent) PO Box 221=C2= =A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

(to 30 April 2020) = 203 W Oak St=C2=A0 Ellettsville, IN 47429=C2=A0 812-876-9970

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13 Feb 2020 19:37:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 04442267D; Thu, 13 Feb 2020 19:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.msweet.org (mail.msweet.org [173.255.209.91]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610F7267D for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2020 19:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imacpro.lan (host-67-204-236-184.public.eastlink.ca [67.204.236.184]) by mail.msweet.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B25DA808BA; Thu, 13 Feb 2020 19:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 $3608.60.0.2.5$) In-Reply-To: <25EF6ACB-B0C7-47E5-B83D-1BE9B35BEB83@xerox.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 14:37:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3457E110-77F2-4269-BA35-FC3D5A747A07@msweet.org> References: <25EF6ACB-B0C7-47E5-B83D-1BE9B35BEB83@xerox.com> To: "Rizzo, Christopher" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) Cc: PWG IPP Workgroup Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Michael Sweet via ipp Reply-To: Michael Sweet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Chris, Thanks for your feedback! > On Feb 13, 2020, at 2:02 PM, Rizzo, Christopher wrote: > > Just some comments on this. Hope not too late: > > 1. Line 230: "Use existing the existing IPP" should be "Use the existing IPP" Thanks, will fix! > 2. Should section 6.2 include job-account-id and job-accounting-user-id or not because they're in PWG 5100.7 (this spec only defining previously undefined attributes)? These are defined in 5100.7 so we don't define them here. (had we decided to update TRANS last year, I probably would have moved them to this spec, but we didn't... :) > 3. Should section 6.4 include job-account-id-supported, job-accounting-user-id-supported, job-account-id-default and job-accounting-user-id-default or not because they're in PWG 5100.7 (this spec only defining previously undefined attributes)? Ditto. ________________________ Michael Sweet _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Feb 13 11:40:29 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F027F1201DE for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2020 11:40:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nEMbOpIzg6YA for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2020 11:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.pwg.org (mail.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFCE1201DC for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2020 11:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 1A3723A6D; Thu, 13 Feb 2020 19:40:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA957267D; Thu, 13 Feb 2020 19:40:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by mail.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id ECAE224D5; Thu, 13 Feb 2020 19:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.msweet.org (mail.msweet.org [173.255.209.91]) by mail.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F06E24D5 for

I just looked at our age= nda for today in the IPP WG, and working toward finishing our review of the= latest draft of "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions v2.0" (h= ttps://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd-ippnodriver20-20200204-rev.pdf) wasn'= t listed.

T= alk to y'all in a few minutes...

Smith

/**
Smith Ke= nnedy
HP Inc.
*/

On= Feb 13, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:

Chris,

printer-mandatory-job-attributes is in 5100.13 (at present), although that = document is also being revised so we *could* move printer-mandatory-job-att= ributes to 5100.16 and then be able to deal with the interactions more clea= rly...

Thoughts everyone?

> On Feb 13, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Rizzo, Christopher <Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com>= wrote:
>
> Sorry for the multiple emails.
>
> Suggest changing Section 4.1 this:
>
> Printers that support multiple payment or billing options for each use= r account can support
> them via the =E2=80=9Cjob-account-id=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cjob-account= ing-user-id=E2=80=9D Job Template attributes
> [PWG5100.7]. Printers notify Clients that they require these values in= a print job creation
> request by including the corresponding attribute names in the =E2=80= =9Cprinter-mandatory-job
> attributes=E2=80=9D Printer Description attribute [PWG5100.7].
>
> To this:
>
> Printers that support multiple payment or billing options for each use= r account can support
> them via the =E2=80=9Cjob-account-id=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cjob-account= ing-user-id=E2=80=9D Job Template attributes
> [PWG5100.7]. Printers notify Clients that they require one or both of = these values in a print job creation
> request by including the corresponding attribute name(s) in the =E2=80= =9Cprinter-mandatory-job
> attributes=E2=80=9D Printer Description attribute [PWG5100.7]. Printe= rs notify Clients that one or both of these values
> are optional in a print job creation request by including the correspo= nding attribute name(s) in the =E2=80=9Cprinter-requested-job
> attributes=E2=80=9D Printer Description attribute.
>
> Note: job-account-id and job-accounting-user-id cannot appear in both = printer-mandatory-job-attributes and printer-requested-job-attributes at th= e same time.
>
> Chris
>
> Christopher Rizzo
> Xerox Corporation
> GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology
> 26600 SW Parkway Ave.
> Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251
> Phone: (585) 314-6936
> Email: Chris= topher.Rizzo@xerox.com
>
> "The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the = remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own prog= rams."
> -Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer
>
> From: Christopher Rizzo <Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com>
> Date: Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 11:06 AM
> To: Michael Sweet <= msweet@msweet.org>, PWG Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org>
> Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Ex= tensions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020)
>
> Apologies - 1 other question:
>
> Should printer-requested-job-attributes be mentioned in regard to addi= ng job-account-id or job-accounting-user-id when one or both of these may b= e supported but optional? (ie - job-accounting-user-id present in printer-= mandatory-job-attributes because can't print without it, but job-account-id= in printer-requested-job-attributes because it is optional, but can print = without it).
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> Christopher Rizzo
> Xerox Corporation
> GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology
> 26600 SW Parkway Ave.
> Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251
> Phone: (585) 314-6936
> Email: Chris= topher.Rizzo@xerox.com
>
> "The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the = remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own prog= rams."
> -Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer
>
> From: Christopher Rizzo <Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com>
> Date: Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 11:02 AM
> To: Michael Sweet <= msweet@msweet.org>, PWG Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org>
> Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Ex= tensions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020)
>
> Just some comments on this. Hope not too late:
>
> 1. Line 230: "Use existing the existing IPP" should be "Use the existi= ng IPP"
> 2. Should section 6.2 include job-account-id and job-accounting-user-i= d or not because they're in PWG 5100.7 (this spec only defining previously = undefined attributes)?
> 3. Should section 6.4 include job-account-id-supported, job-accounting= -user-id-supported, job-account-id-default and job-accounting-user-id-defau= lt or not because they're in PWG 5100.7 (this spec only defining previously= undefined attributes)?
>
> Other than these questions, no issues.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> Christopher Rizzo
> Xerox Corporation
> GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology
> 26600 SW Parkway Ave.
> Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251
> Phone: (585) 314-6936
> Email: Chris= topher.Rizzo@xerox.com
>
> "The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the = remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own prog= rams."
> -Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer
>
> From: ipp <ipp-bo= unces@pwg.org> on behalf of PWG Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org>
> Reply-To: Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org>
> Date: Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 1:39 PM
> To: PWG Workgroup <ipp@pw= g.org>
> Subject: [IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extens= ions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020)
>
> [This Last Call starts today, January 30, 2020 and ends at 10pm PST on= February 13, 2020]
>
> All,
>
> This message starts the IPP workgroup Last Call of the IPP Transaction= -Based Printing Extensions v1.1 specification, available at:
>
> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptr= ans11-20200130.docx
> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptra= ns11-20200130.pdf
>
> This document defines extensions to the Internet Printing Protocol tha= t support the business transaction logic needed for paid, PIN, release, and= quota-based printing through local and commercial services.
>
> This is an errata update of PWG 5100.16-2013.
>
> Please reply to this message with any feedback, which we can review at= the following IPP workgroup conference call.
>
> Thanks!
>
> ________________________
> Michael Sweet
>
>
>
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boundary="===============8661629471628623172==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8661629471628623172== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_21DE9061-4B27-4EFC-BE81-03543E4ACA99"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_21DE9061-4B27-4EFC-BE81-03543E4ACA99 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_FE7C0085-DB74-444D-AEEF-A9B93CDF3166" --Apple-Mail=_FE7C0085-DB74-444D-AEEF-A9B93CDF3166 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Mike, These comments are late so I apologize for my tardiness: Line 137-138: Replace with "And given the need to support label and receipt= printers with IPP, this IPP Label Printing Extensions v1.0 should extend I= PP by:" Lines 139-141: Change the first word to be "Defining" or "Providing" to ali= gn with the first comment Section 5.2.1: is it possible for there to be more than one label mode conf= igured? If so, then "label-mode-configured" ought to be (1setOf type2 keywo= rd). Lines 290-291: Move the first bullet to the bottom of the unordered list? I= t seems like we ought to be conveying a preference for standard document fo= rmats over proprietary ones Again, sorry for being late! Smith /** Smith Kennedy HP Inc. */ > On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:35 PM, Michael Sweet via ipp wrote: >=20 > [This Last Call starts today, January 30, 2020 and ends at 10pm PST on Fe= bruary 13, 2020] >=20 > All, >=20 > This message starts the IPP workgroup Last Call of the IPP Label Printing= Extensions v1.0 registration document, available at: >=20 > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipplabel10-20200130.docx > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipplabel10-20200130.pdf >=20 > This registration defines IPP attributes and values needed for common des= ktop, mobile, and industrial label printers. >=20 > All parts of this registration have been prototyped in the "LPrint" proje= ct: >=20 > https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint >=20 > Please reply to this message with any feedback, which we can review at th= e following IPP workgroup conference call. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > ________________________ > Michael Sweet >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --Apple-Mail=_FE7C0085-DB74-444D-AEEF-A9B93CDF3166 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi Mike,

These comments are late so I apologiz= e for my tardiness:

Line 137-138: Replace with "And= given the need to support label and receipt printers with IPP, this IPP La= bel Printing Extensions v1.0 should extend IPP by:"
Line= s 139-141: Change the first word to be "Defining" or "Providing" to align w= ith the first comment
Section 5.2.1: is it possible for = there to be more than one label mode configured? If so, then "label-mode-co= nfigured" ought to be (1setOf type2 keyword).
Lines 290-= 291: Move the first bullet to the bottom of the unordered list? It seems li= ke we ought to be conveying a preference for standard document formats over= proprietary ones

Again, sorry for being late!

Smith

/**
Smith Ke= nnedy
HP Inc.
*/

On= Jan 30, 2020, at 2:35 PM, Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:

[This Last Call starts today, January 30, 2020 and ends at = 10pm PST on February 13, 2020]

All,

This message starts the IPP workgroup Last Call of the IPP Label Printing E= xtensions v1.0 registration document, available at:

=09https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipplabel10-20200130.doc= x
=09https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipplabel10-20200130.pdf<= /a>

This registration defines IPP attributes and values needed for common deskt= op, mobile, and industrial label printers.

All parts of this registration have been prototyped in the "LPrint" project= :

=09 https://g= ithub.com/michaelrsweet/lprint

Please reply to this message with any feedback, which we can review at the = following IPP workgroup conference call.

Thanks!

________________________
Michael Sweet

_______________________________________________
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boundary="===============6970729434059698440==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6970729434059698440== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9AF894D4-36E1-4335-A898-924D3AE2B867"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_9AF894D4-36E1-4335-A898-924D3AE2B867 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DC167680-DB67-4B43-B2DD-DA6D1D7A14D8" --Apple-Mail=_DC167680-DB67-4B43-B2DD-DA6D1D7A14D8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Mike, I can file defects for this, but one quick bit of feedback with tests B-1 a= nd B-5.2 (the browse tests) These tests are failing for me on Linux, and the cause seems to be at least= partly due to a syntax problem with how subtypes can be specified to the "= ippfind" tool. The "ippfind" tool used to accept a DNS-SD subtype using the= "_SUBTYPE._sub._TYPE._TRANSPORT" syntax instead of the "_TYPE._TRANSPORT,_= SUBTYPE" notation that was used in the RFC but isn't used on the wire. The "bonjour-tests.sh" test does B-1 like so: > ${IPPFIND} --literal-name "${TARGET}" "_ipp._tcp,_print.local --quiet which fails on Ubuntu Linux but works on macOS. IMHO this line should be ph= rased like so: > ${IPPFIND} --literal-name "${TARGET}" "_print._sub._ipp._tcp.local --quie= t and our code should be updated to work using that syntax on all platforms. = I am observing that this successfully finds my target HP TANGO (Ubuntu 18.0= 4.4): $ avahi-browse _print._sub._ipp._tcp but this fails: $ avahi-browse _ipp._tcp,_print If I use the system provided /usr/bin/ippfind (which "ippfind --version" re= ports "CUPS v2.2.7") it works the way I expect it to work as described abov= e but doesn't support "--literal-name". Still testing... Smith /** Smith Kennedy HP Inc. */ > On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Michael Sweet via ipp wrote: >=20 > All, >=20 > I have posted a proposed update to the IPP Everywhere v1.0 Printer Self-C= ertification Tools to: >=20 > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-macos.zip= > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-rhel.tar.= gz > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-ubuntu.ta= r.gz > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-windows.m= si >=20 > Instructions for using the new "ippevesubmit" program can be found here: >=20 > https://istopwg.github.io/ippeveselfcert >=20 > These will be moved over to the main PWG web site when the update goes li= ve. >=20 > Changes include: >=20 > - Issue #41: Windows IPP Everywhere Self Cert 1.0 Update 3: ipptool fails= to > run - missing regex.dll > - Updated the Windows test scripts to look for PWG Raster files on the De= sktop, > and to write the test results to the Desktop since the installation > directory is now write-protected on current versions of Windows. > - Updated libcups and the IPP tools to CUPS v2.2.13. >=20 > Note: All binaries are for 64-bit systems only. >=20 > Please provide feedback before February 27, 2020. I would like to post up= date 4 after the IPP workgroup conference call on that day. >=20 > ________________________ > Michael Sweet >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --Apple-Mail=_DC167680-DB67-4B43-B2DD-DA6D1D7A14D8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi Mike,

I can file defects for this, but one = quick bit of feedback with tests B-1 and B-5.2 (the browse tests)

These tests are failing fo= r me on Linux, and the cause seems to be at least partly due to a syntax pr= oblem with how subtypes can be specified to the "ippfind" tool. The "ippfin= d" tool used to accept a DNS-SD subtype using the "_SUBTYPE._sub._TYPE._TRA= NSPORT" syntax instead of the "_TYPE._TRANSPORT,_SUBTYPE" notation that was= used in the RFC but isn't used on the wire.

The "bonjour-tests.sh" test does B-1 like so:

> ${IPPFIND} --= literal-name "${TARGET}" "_ipp._tcp,_print.local --quiet

which fails on Ubuntu Linux but wor= ks on macOS. IMHO this line should be phrased like so:

> ${IPPFIND} --literal-name "${TAR= GET}" "_print._sub._ipp._tcp.local --quiet

and our code should be updated to work using th= at syntax on all platforms. I am observing that this successfully finds my = target HP TANGO (Ubuntu 18.04.4):

$ avahi-browse _print._sub._ipp._tcp

but this fails:

<= br class=3D"">

$ avahi-browse _ipp._tc= p,_print

If= I use the system provided /usr/bin/ippfind (which "ippfind --version" repo= rts "CUPS v2.2.7") it works the way I expect it to work as described above = but doesn't support "--literal-name".

<= /div>

Still testing...

<= div class=3D""> Smith

/**
Smith Ke= nnedy
HP Inc.
*/

On= Feb 4, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:

All,

I have posted a proposed update to the IPP Everywhere v1.0 Printer Self-Cer= tification Tools to:

=09https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfce= rt10-20200204-macos.zip
=09https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveself= cert10-20200204-rhel.tar.gz
=09https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippevese= lfcert10-20200204-ubuntu.tar.gz
=09https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveself= cert10-20200204-windows.msi

Instructions for using the new "ippevesubmit" program can be found here:
=09https://= istopwg.github.io/ippeveselfcert

These will be moved over to the main PWG web site when the update goes live= .

Changes include:

- Issue #41: Windows IPP Everywhere Self Cert 1.0 Update 3: ipptool fails t= o
run - missing regex.dll
- Updated the Windows test scripts to look for PWG Raster files on the Desk= top,
and to write the test results to the Desktop since the installation
directory is now write-protected on current versions of Windows.
- Updated libcups and the IPP tools to CUPS v2.2.13.

Note: All binaries are for 64-bit systems only.

Please provide feedback before February 27, 2020. I would like to post upd= ate 4 after the IPP workgroup conference call on that day.

________________________
Michael Sweet

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
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boundary="===============1162653895643796070==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1162653895643796070== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C5F0F18E-65B4-4E62-AFC2-14A16DB62B7E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_C5F0F18E-65B4-4E62-AFC2-14A16DB62B7E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B30573D0-9CC1-4A33-B1BA-07EE72958D88" --Apple-Mail=_B30573D0-9CC1-4A33-B1BA-07EE72958D88 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I should say further that even though Apple's own "dns-sd" tool uses the "_= TYPE._TRANSPORT,_SUBTYPE" notation (which derives from the notation used in= the RFC), the "dig" tool only accepts the "_SUBTYPE._sub._TYPE._TRANSPORT"= syntax, which matches what is sent over the wire. This works: $ dig @224.0.0.251 -p 5353 _print._sub._ipp._tcp.local. PTR IN This doesn't work: $ dig @224.0.0.251 -p 5353 _ipp._tcp,_print.local. PTR IN And the bottom line is that the B-1 and B-5.2 tests will fail on Ubuntu whe= n they shouldn't. > On Feb 14, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) v= ia ipp wrote: >=20 > Signed PGP part > Hi Mike, >=20 > I can file defects for this, but one quick bit of feedback with tests B-1= and B-5.2 (the browse tests) >=20 > These tests are failing for me on Linux, and the cause seems to be at lea= st partly due to a syntax problem with how subtypes can be specified to the= "ippfind" tool. The "ippfind" tool used to accept a DNS-SD subtype using t= he "_SUBTYPE._sub._TYPE._TRANSPORT" syntax instead of the "_TYPE._TRANSPORT= ,_SUBTYPE" notation that was used in the RFC but isn't used on the wire. >=20 > The "bonjour-tests.sh" test does B-1 like so: >=20 > > ${IPPFIND} --literal-name "${TARGET}" "_ipp._tcp,_print.local --quiet >=20 > which fails on Ubuntu Linux but works on macOS. IMHO this line should be = phrased like so: >=20 > > ${IPPFIND} --literal-name "${TARGET}" "_print._sub._ipp._tcp.local --qu= iet >=20 > and our code should be updated to work using that syntax on all platforms= . I am observing that this successfully finds my target HP TANGO (Ubuntu 18= .04.4): >=20 > $ avahi-browse _print._sub._ipp._tcp >=20 > but this fails: >=20 > $ avahi-browse _ipp._tcp,_print >=20 > If I use the system provided /usr/bin/ippfind (which "ippfind --version" = reports "CUPS v2.2.7") it works the way I expect it to work as described ab= ove but doesn't support "--literal-name". >=20 > Still testing... >=20 > Smith >=20 > /** > Smith Kennedy > HP Inc. > */ >=20 >> On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Michael Sweet via ipp > wrote: >>=20 >> All, >>=20 >> I have posted a proposed update to the IPP Everywhere v1.0 Printer Self-= Certification Tools to: >>=20 >> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-macos.zi= p >> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-rhel.tar= .gz >> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-ubuntu.t= ar.gz >> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-windows.= msi >>=20 >> Instructions for using the new "ippevesubmit" program can be found here: >>=20 >> https://istopwg.github.io/ippeveselfcert >>=20 >> These will be moved over to the main PWG web site when the update goes l= ive. >>=20 >> Changes include: >>=20 >> - Issue #41: Windows IPP Everywhere Self Cert 1.0 Update 3: ipptool fail= s to >> run - missing regex.dll >> - Updated the Windows test scripts to look for PWG Raster files on the D= esktop, >> and to write the test results to the Desktop since the installation >> directory is now write-protected on current versions of Windows. >> - Updated libcups and the IPP tools to CUPS v2.2.13. >>=20 >> Note: All binaries are for 64-bit systems only. >>=20 >> Please provide feedback before February 27, 2020. I would like to post u= pdate 4 after the IPP workgroup conference call on that day. >>=20 >> ________________________ >> Michael Sweet >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_B30573D0-9CC1-4A33-B1BA-07EE72958D88 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I should say further th= at even though Apple's own "dns-sd" tool uses the "_TYPE._TRANSPORT,_S= UBTYPE" notation (which derives from the notation used in the RFC), the "di= g" tool only accepts the "_SUBTYPE._sub._TYPE._TRANSPORT" syntax, whic= h matches what is sent over the wire. This works:

$ dig @224.0.0.251 -p 5353 _print._sub._ipp._tc= p.local. PTR IN

T= his doesn't work:

$ dig @224.0.0.251 -p 5353 _ipp._tcp,_print.local. PTR IN<= /div>

And the bottom li= ne is that the B-1 and B-5.2 tests will fail on Ubuntu when they shouldn't.=

On= Feb 14, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) v= ia ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wr= ote:

Signed PGP part
H= i Mike,

I can file defe= cts for this, but one quick bit of feedback with tests B-1 and B-5.2 (the b= rowse tests)

Thes= e tests are failing for me on Linux, and the cause seems to be at least par= tly due to a syntax problem with how subtypes can be specified to the "ippf= ind" tool. The "ippfind" tool used to accept a DNS-SD subtype using the "_S= UBTYPE._sub._TYPE._TRANSPORT" syntax instead of the "_TYPE._TRANSPORT,_SUBT= YPE" notation that was used in the RFC but isn't used on the wire.

The "bonjour-tests.sh" te= st does B-1 like so:

> ${IPPFIND} --literal-name "${TARGET}" "_ipp._tcp,_print.local --= quiet

which fails= on Ubuntu Linux but works on macOS. IMHO this line should be phrased like = so:

> ${IPPFIN= D} --literal-name "${TARGET}" "_print._sub._ipp._tcp.local --quiet

and our code should be up= dated to work using that syntax on all platforms. I am observing that this = successfully finds my target HP TANGO (Ubuntu 18.04.4):

$ avahi-browse _print._sub._ipp._tcp=

but this fails:<= /div>

$= avahi-browse _ipp._tcp,_print

If I use the system provided /usr/bin/ippfind (which "i= ppfind --version" reports "CUPS v2.2.7") it works the way I expect it to wo= rk as described above but doesn't support "--literal-name".

Still testing...

Smith

/**
Smith Ke= nnedy
HP Inc.
*/

On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:

All,

I have posted a proposed update to the IPP Everywhere v1.0 Printer Self-Cer= tification Tools to:

=09https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfce= rt10-20200204-macos.zip
=09https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveself= cert10-20200204-rhel.tar.gz
=09https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippevese= lfcert10-20200204-ubuntu.tar.gz
=09https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveself= cert10-20200204-windows.msi

Instructions for using the new "ippevesubmit" program can be found here:
=09https://= istopwg.github.io/ippeveselfcert

These will be moved over to the main PWG web site when the update goes live= .

Changes include:

- Issue #41: Windows IPP Everywhere Self Cert 1.0 Update 3: ipptool fails t= o
run - missing regex.dll
- Updated the Windows test scripts to look for PWG Raster files on the Desk= top,
and to write the test results to the Desktop since the installation
directory is now write-protected on current versions of Windows.
- Updated libcups and the IPP tools to CUPS v2.2.13.

Note: All binaries are for 64-bit systems only.

Please provide feedback before February 27, 2020. I would like to post upd= ate 4 after the IPP workgroup conference call on that day.

________________________
Michael Sweet

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www= .pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

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X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: "Kennedy, Smith $Wireless & IPP Standards$ via ipp" Reply-To: "Kennedy, Smith $Wireless & IPP Standards$" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1872796341778910021==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1872796341778910021== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E6A0AADD-F387-41D1-9ED6-B784501F3B51"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Apple-Mail=_E6A0AADD-F387-41D1-9ED6-B784501F3B51 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_55CB3345-15D3-47A0-841E-4C6DF3B130EB" --Apple-Mail=_55CB3345-15D3-47A0-841E-4C6DF3B130EB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Chris, I'm on Catalina and if I run "/usr/bin/ippfind --version" I get CUPS v2.3.0= . Is that what you get? On mine it fails as well. But it shouldn't. And sin= ce it is our own tool, it is within our power to change it. The IPP Everywh= ere Self-Certification tools, though, it uses a local copy of ippfind (or s= hould), and the parameters come from a script. So my point here is that I b= elieve we ought to normalize the syntax that "ippfind" accepts, and IMHO we= should normalize it on "_print._sub._ipp._tcp.local" instead of "_ipp._tcp= ,_print.local" because the former is what is on the wire, while the latter = is just an oddity that came from a mistake made by those that both wrote th= e "dns-sd" tool and contributed to the RFCs. Sanity check me here - am I off in the weeds? Smith /** Smith Kennedy HP Inc. */ > On Feb 14, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Rizzo, Christopher wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hmm... On the Mac (I'm currently at Mojave), the ippfind tool doesn't li= ke _print._sub._ipp._tcp.local. There does not appear to be a problem with= --literal-name parameter: >=20 > crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[18]= ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" > ipp://XRX9C934E681461.local:631/ipp/print > crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[19]= ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _ipp._tcp > ipp://XRX9C934E681461.local:631/ipp/print > crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[20]= ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _ipps._tcp > ipps://XRX9C934E681461.local:443/ipp/print > crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[21]= ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _print._sub._ipp._tcp > ippfind: Unable to browse or resolve: Bad parameter. > crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[22]= ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _print._sub._ipp._tcp.loca= l > ippfind: Unable to browse or resolve: Bad parameter. > crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[23] > crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[23]= ./ippfind --version > IPPEVESELFCERT11 v20200211 > crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[24] > crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[24]= ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _print._sub._ipp._tcp.local > ippfind: Unable to browse or resolve: Bad parameter. > crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[25]= ippfind --version > CUPS v2.2.9 > crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[26] >=20 > Chris >=20 > Christopher Rizzo > Xerox Corporation > GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology > 26600 SW Parkway Ave. > Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251 > Phone: (585) 314-6936 > Email: Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com >=20 > "The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the rem= ainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own program= s." > -Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer >=20 > From: ipp on behalf of PWG Workgroup > Reply-To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards)" > Date: Friday, February 14, 2020 at 11:48 AM > To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards)" > Cc: PWG Workgroup , PWG Self-Certification > Subject: Re: [IPP] BETA: IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification Tools = v1.0 Update 4 >=20 > I should say further that even though Apple's own "dns-sd" tool uses the = "_TYPE._TRANSPORT,_SUBTYPE" notation (which derives from the notation used = in the RFC), the "dig" tool only accepts the "_SUBTYPE._sub._TYPE._TRANSPOR= T" syntax, which matches what is sent over the wire. This works: >=20 > $ dig @224.0.0.251 -p 5353 _print._sub._ipp._tcp.local. PTR IN >=20 > This doesn't work: >=20 > $ dig @224.0.0.251 -p 5353 _ipp._tcp,_print.local. PTR IN >=20 > And the bottom line is that the B-1 and B-5.2 tests will fail on Ubuntu w= hen they shouldn't. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Feb 14, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) = via ipp > wrote: >>=20 >> Signed PGP part >> Hi Mike, >>=20 >> I can file defects for this, but one quick bit of feedback with tests B-= 1 and B-5.2 (the browse tests) >>=20 >> These tests are failing for me on Linux, and the cause seems to be at le= ast partly due to a syntax problem with how subtypes can be specified to th= e "ippfind" tool. The "ippfind" tool used to accept a DNS-SD subtype using = the "_SUBTYPE._sub._TYPE._TRANSPORT" syntax instead of the "_TYPE._TRANSPOR= T,_SUBTYPE" notation that was used in the RFC but isn't used on the wire. >>=20 >> The "bonjour-tests.sh" test does B-1 like so: >>=20 >> > ${IPPFIND} --literal-name "${TARGET}" "_ipp._tcp,_print.local --quiet >>=20 >> which fails on Ubuntu Linux but works on macOS. IMHO this line should be= phrased like so: >>=20 >> > ${IPPFIND} --literal-name "${TARGET}" "_print._sub._ipp._tcp.local --q= uiet >>=20 >> and our code should be updated to work using that syntax on all platform= s. I am observing that this successfully finds my target HP TANGO (Ubuntu 1= 8.04.4): >>=20 >> $ avahi-browse _print._sub._ipp._tcp >>=20 >> but this fails: >>=20 >> $ avahi-browse _ipp._tcp,_print >>=20 >> If I use the system provided /usr/bin/ippfind (which "ippfind --version"= reports "CUPS v2.2.7") it works the way I expect it to work as described a= bove but doesn't support "--literal-name". >>=20 >> Still testing... >>=20 >> Smith >>=20 >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> HP Inc. >> */ >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Michael Sweet via ipp

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Regards, Paul Santangelo, CCNA, CNE Escalation System Support (ESS) Integrator Konica Minolta Business Solutions U.S.A., Inc. 101 Williams Drive Ramsey, NJ 07446 Office: 800-825-5664 Visit us: Count on Konica Minolta Disclaimer On 2/14/2020 3:42 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp wrote: > Hi Chris, > > I'm on Catalina and if I run "/usr/bin/ippfind --version" I get CUPS > v2.3.0. Is that what you get? On mine it fails as well. But it > shouldn't. And since it is our own tool, it is within our power to > change it. The IPP Everywhere Self-Certification tools, though, it > uses a local copy of ippfind (or should), and the parameters come from > a script. So my point here is that I believe we ought to normalize the > syntax that "ippfind" accepts, and IMHO we should normalize it on > "_print._sub._ipp._tcp.local" instead of "_ipp._tcp,_print.local" > because the former is what is on the wire, while the latter is just an > oddity that came from a mistake made by those that both wrote the > "dns-sd" tool and contributed to the RFCs. > > Sanity check me here - am I off in the weeds? > > Smith > > /** > � � Smith Kennedy > � � HP Inc. > */ > >> On Feb 14, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Rizzo, Christopher >> > wrote: >> >> Hmm...� On the Mac (I'm currently at Mojave), the ippfind tool >> doesn't like _print._sub._ipp._tcp.local.� There does not appear to >> be a problem with --literal-name parameter: >> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - >> Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[18] ./ippfind --literal-name >> "Xerox AltaLink C8035" >> ipp://XRX9C934E681461.local:631/ipp/print >> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - >> Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[19] ./ippfind --literal-name >> "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _ipp._tcp >> ipp://XRX9C934E681461.local:631/ipp/print >> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - >> Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[20] ./ippfind --literal-name >> "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _ipps._tcp >> ipps://XRX9C934E681461.local:443/ipp/print >> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - >> Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[21] ./ippfind --literal-name >> "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _print._sub._ipp._tcp >> ippfind: Unable to browse or resolve: Bad parameter. >> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - >> Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[22] ./ippfind --literal-name >> "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _print._sub._ipp._tcp.local >> ippfind: Unable to browse or resolve: Bad parameter. >> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[23] >> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - >> Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[23] ./ippfind --version >> IPPEVESELFCERT11 v20200211 >> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[24] >> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - >> Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[24] ippfind --literal-name "Xerox >> AltaLink C8035" _print._sub._ipp._tcp.local >> ippfind: Unable to browse or resolve: Bad parameter. >> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - >> Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[25] ippfind --version >> CUPS v2.2.9 >> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[26] >> Chris >> Christopher Rizzo >> Xerox Corporation >> GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology >> 26600 SW Parkway Ave. >> Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251 >> Phone: (585) 314-6936 >> Email:Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com >> "The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the >> remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my >> own programs." >> -Maurice Wilkes,/Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer/ >> *From:*ipp > on >> behalf of PWG Workgroup > >> *Reply-To:*"Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards)" >> > >> *Date:*Friday, February 14, 2020 at 11:48 AM >> *To:*"Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards)" >> > >> *Cc:*PWG Workgroup >, PWG >> Self-Certification > > >> *Subject:*Re: [IPP] BETA: IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification >> Tools v1.0 Update 4 >> I should say further that even though Apple's own "dns-sd" tool uses >> the�"_TYPE._TRANSPORT,_SUBTYPE" notation (which derives from the >> notation used in the RFC), the "dig" tool only accepts >> the�"_SUBTYPE._sub._TYPE._TRANSPORT" syntax, which matches what is >> sent over the wire. This works: >> $ dig @224.0.0.251 -p 5353 _print._sub._ipp._tcp.local. PTR IN >> This doesn't work: >> $ dig @224.0.0.251 -p 5353 _ipp._tcp,_print.local. PTR IN >> And the bottom line is that the B-1 and B-5.2 tests will fail on >> Ubuntu when they shouldn't. >> >> >>> On Feb 14, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP >>> Standards) via ipp > wrote: >>> Signed PGP part >>> Hi Mike, >>> I can file defects for this, but one quick bit of feedback with >>> tests B-1 and B-5.2 (the browse tests) >>> These tests are failing for me on Linux, and the cause seems to be >>> at least partly due to a syntax problem with how subtypes can be >>> specified to the "ippfind" tool. The "ippfind" tool used to accept a >>> DNS-SD subtype using the "_SUBTYPE._sub._TYPE._TRANSPORT" syntax >>> instead of the "_TYPE._TRANSPORT,_SUBTYPE" notation that was used in >>> the RFC but isn't used on the wire. >>> The "bonjour-tests.sh" test does B-1 like so: >>> > ${IPPFIND} --literal-name "${TARGET}" "_ipp._tcp,_print.local --quiet >>> which fails on Ubuntu Linux but works on macOS. IMHO this line >>> should be phrased like so: >>> > ${IPPFIND} --literal-name "${TARGET}" "_print._sub._ipp._tcp.local >>> --quiet >>> and our code should be updated to work using that syntax on all >>> platforms. I am observing that this successfully finds my target HP >>> TANGO (Ubuntu 18.04.4): >>> $ avahi-browse _print._sub._ipp._tcp >>> but this fails: >>> $ avahi-browse _ipp._tcp,_print >>> If I use the system provided /usr/bin/ippfind (which "ippfind >>> --version" reports "CUPS v2.2.7") it works the way I expect it to >>> work as described above but doesn't support "--literal-name". >>> Still testing... >>> Smith >>> >>> /** >>> � � Smith Kennedy >>> � � HP Inc. >>> */ >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Michael Sweet via ipp >>> > wrote: >>>> All, >>>> >>>> I have posted a proposed update to the IPP Everywhere v1.0 Printer >>>> Self-Certification Tools to: >>>> >>>> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-macos.zip >>>> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-rhel.tar.gz >>>> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-ubuntu.tar.gz >>>> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-windows.msi >>>> >>>> Instructions for using the new "ippevesubmit" program can be found >>>> here: >>>> >>>> https://istopwg.github.io/ippeveselfcert >>>> >>>> These will be moved over to the main PWG web site when the update >>>> goes live. >>>> >>>> Changes include: >>>> >>>> - Issue #41: Windows IPP Everywhere Self Cert 1.0 Update 3: ipptool >>>> fails to >>>> run - missing regex.dll >>>> - Updated the Windows test scripts to look for PWG Raster files on >>>> the Desktop, >>>> and to write the test results to the Desktop since the installation >>>> directory is now write-protected on current versions of Windows. >>>> - Updated libcups and the IPP tools to CUPS v2.2.13. >>>> >>>> Note: All binaries are for 64-bit systems only. >>>> >>>> Please provide feedback before February 27, 2020. I would like to >>>> post update 4 after the IPP workgroup conference call on that day. >>>> >>>> ________________________ >>>> Michael Sweet >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ipp mailing list >>>> ipp@pwg.org >>>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --------------7DEED5EF3734F15B65FE8516 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rights issue?

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On 2/14/2020 3:42 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp wrote:

Hi Chris,

I'm on Catalina and if I run "/usr/bin/ippfind --version" I get CUPS v2.3.0. Is that what you get? On mine it fails as well. But it shouldn't. And since it is our own tool, it is within our power to change it. The IPP Everywhere Self-Certification tools, though, it uses a local copy of ippfind (or should), and the parameters come from a script. So my point here is that I believe we ought to normalize the syntax that "ippfind" accepts, and IMHO we should normalize it on "_print._sub._ipp._tcp.local" instead of "_ipp._tcp,_print.local" because the former is what is on the wire, while the latter is just an oddity that came from a mistake made by those that both wrote the "dns-sd" tool and contributed to the RFCs.

Sanity check me here - am I off in the weeds?

Smith

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On Feb 14, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Rizzo, Christopher <Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com> wrote:

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Hmm...� On the Mac (I'm currently at Mojave), the ippfind tool doesn't like _print._sub._ipp._tcp.local.� There does not appear to be a problem with --literal-name parameter:

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crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[18] ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035"

ipp://XRX9C934E681461.local:631/ipp/print

crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[19] ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _ipp._tcp

ipp://XRX9C934E681461.local:631/ipp/print

crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[20] ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _ipps._tcp

ipps://XRX9C934E681461.local:443/ipp/print

crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[21] ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _print._sub._ipp._tcp

ippfind: Unable to browse or resolve: Bad parameter.

crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[22] ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _print._sub._ipp._tcp.local

ippfind: Unable to browse or resolve: Bad parameter.

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crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[23] ./ippfind --version

IPPEVESELFCERT11 v20200211

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crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[24] ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _print._sub._ipp._tcp.local

ippfind: Unable to browse or resolve: Bad parameter.

crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[25] ippfind --version

CUPS v2.2.9

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Chris

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Christopher Rizzo

Xerox Corporation

GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology

26600 SW Parkway Ave.

Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251

Phone: (585) 314-6936

Email:�Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com

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From:�ipp <ipp-bounces@pwg.org> on behalf of PWG Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org>
Reply-To:�"Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards)" <smith.kennedy@hp.com>
Date:�Friday, February 14, 2020 at 11:48 AM
To:�"Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards)" <smith.kennedy@hp.com>
Cc:�PWG Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org>, PWG Self-Certification <ippeveselfcert@pwg.org>
Subject:�Re: [IPP] BETA: IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification Tools v1.0 Update 4

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I should say further that even though Apple's own "dns-sd" tool uses the�"_TYPE._TRANSPORT,_SUBTYPE" notation (which derives from the notation used in the RFC), the "dig" tool only accepts the�"_SUBTYPE._sub._TYPE._TRANSPORT" syntax, which matches what is sent over the wire. This works:�

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$ dig @224.0.0.251 -p 5353 _print._sub._ipp._tcp.local. PTR IN

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This doesn't work:

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$ dig @224.0.0.251 -p 5353 _ipp._tcp,_print.local. PTR IN

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And the bottom line is that the B-1 and B-5.2 tests will fail on Ubuntu when they shouldn't.

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On Feb 14, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:

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Hi Mike,�

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I can file defects for this, but one quick bit of feedback with tests B-1 and B-5.2 (the browse tests)

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These tests are failing for me on Linux, and the cause seems to be at least partly due to a syntax problem with how subtypes can be specified to the "ippfind" tool. The "ippfind" tool used to accept a DNS-SD subtype using the "_SUBTYPE._sub._TYPE._TRANSPORT" syntax instead of the "_TYPE._TRANSPORT,_SUBTYPE" notation that was used in the RFC but isn't used on the wire.

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The "bonjour-tests.sh" test does B-1 like so:

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> ${IPPFIND} --literal-name "${TARGET}" "_ipp._tcp,_print.local --quiet

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which fails on Ubuntu Linux but works on macOS. IMHO this line should be phrased like so:

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> ${IPPFIND} --literal-name "${TARGET}" "_print._sub._ipp._tcp.local --quiet

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and our code should be updated to work using that syntax on all platforms. I am observing that this successfully finds my target HP TANGO (Ubuntu 18.04.4):

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$ avahi-browse _print._sub._ipp._tcp

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but this fails:

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$ avahi-browse _ipp._tcp,_print

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If I use the system provided /usr/bin/ippfind (which "ippfind --version" reports "CUPS v2.2.7") it works the way I expect it to work as described above but doesn't support "--literal-name".

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Still testing...

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Smith

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On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:

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All,

I have posted a proposed update to the IPP Everywhere v1.0 Printer Self-Certification Tools to:

https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-macos.zip
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-rhel.tar.gz
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-ubuntu.tar.gz
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20200204-windows.msi

Instructions for using the new "ippevesubmit" program can be found here:

https://istopwg.github.io/ippeveselfcert

These will be moved over to the main PWG web site when the update goes live.

Changes include:

- Issue #41: Windows IPP Everywhere Self Cert 1.0 Update 3: ipptool fails to
run - missing regex.dll
- Updated the Windows test scripts to look for PWG Raster files on the Desktop,
and to write the test results to the Desktop since the installation
directory is now write-protected on current versions of Windows.
- Updated libcups and the IPP tools to CUPS v2.2.13.

Note: All binaries are for 64-bit systems only.

Please provide feedback before February 27, 2020. I would like to post update 4 after the IPP workgroup conference call on that day.

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Serenity: Downloads [525]$ ippfind --literal-name "HP TANGO Ken Smith" _ipp= ._tcp,_print.local ipp://hp-tango-ken-smith.local:631/ipp/print Serenity: Downloads [526]$ sudo !524 sudo ippfind --literal-name "HP TANGO Ken Smith" _print._sub._ipp._tcp.loca= l ippfind: Unable to browse or resolve: Bad parameter. Serenity: Downloads [527]$ I'm pretty sure the problem is the parsing logic in "ippfind". And what I g= uess we are talking about is two different issues: 1) what syntax does "ippfind" accept as an option; and 2) how is that parsed and passed down to the system's DNS-SD implementation Smith /** Smith Kennedy HP Inc. */ > On Feb 14, 2020, at 1:43 PM, Paul Santangelo wrote: >=20 > Rights issue? >=20 > Regards, >=20 >=20 >=20 > PAUL SANTANGELO, CCNA, CNE > Escalation System Support (ESS) Integrator > Konica Minolta Business Solutions U.S.A., Inc. > 101 Williams Drive Ramsey, NJ 07446 > Office: 800-825-566= 4 > Visit us: Count on Konica Minolta > = > Disclaimer >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2/14/2020 3:42 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp w= rote: >> Hi Chris, >>=20 >> I'm on Catalina and if I run "/usr/bin/ippfind --version" I get CUPS v2.= 3.0. Is that what you get? On mine it fails as well. But it shouldn't. And = since it is our own tool, it is within our power to change it. The IPP Ever= ywhere Self-Certification tools, though, it uses a local copy of ippfind (o= r should), and the parameters come from a script. So my point here is that = I believe we ought to normalize the syntax that "ippfind" accepts, and IMHO= we should normalize it on "_print._sub._ipp._tcp.local" instead of "_ipp._= tcp,_print.local" because the former is what is on the wire, while the latt= er is just an oddity that came from a mistake made by those that both wrote= the "dns-sd" tool and contributed to the RFCs. >>=20 >> Sanity check me here - am I off in the weeds? >>=20 >> Smith >>=20 >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> HP Inc. >> */ >>=20 >>> On Feb 14, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Rizzo, Christopher > wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Hmm... On the Mac (I'm currently at Mojave), the ippfind tool doesn't = like _print._sub._ipp._tcp.local. There does not appear to be a problem wi= th --literal-name parameter: >>>=20 >>> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[1= 8] ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" >>> ipp://XRX9C934E681461.local:631/ipp/print >>> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[1= 9] ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _ipp._tcp >>> ipp://XRX9C934E681461.local:631/ipp/print >>> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[2= 0] ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _ipps._tcp >>> ipps://XRX9C934E681461.local:443/ipp/print >>> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[2= 1] ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _print._sub._ipp._tcp >>> ippfind: Unable to browse or resolve: Bad parameter. >>> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[2= 2] ./ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _print._sub._ipp._tcp.lo= cal >>> ippfind: Unable to browse or resolve: Bad parameter. >>> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[2= 3] >>> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[2= 3] ./ippfind --version >>> IPPEVESELFCERT11 v20200211 >>> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[2= 4] >>> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[2= 4] ippfind --literal-name "Xerox AltaLink C8035" _print._sub._ipp._tcp.loca= l >>> ippfind: Unable to browse or resolve: Bad parameter. >>> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[2= 5] ippfind --version >>> CUPS v2.2.9 >>> crizzo@ChrisMacBook15:~/OneDrive - Xerox/pwg/ipp-self-cert-v1.1-beta1[2= 6] >>>=20 >>> Chris >>>=20 >>> Christopher Rizzo >>> Xerox Corporation >>> GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology >>> 26600 SW Parkway Ave. >>> Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251 >>> Phone: (585) 314-6936 >>> Email: Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com >>>=20 >>> "The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the r= emainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own progr= ams." >>> -Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer >>>=20 >>> From: ipp > on behalf = of PWG Workgroup > >>> Reply-To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards)" > >>> Date: Friday, February 14, 2020 at 11:48 AM >>> To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards)" > >>> Cc: PWG Workgroup

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