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Passwords for ippm-archive@lists.ietf.org: List Password // URL ---- -------- ippm@ietf.org wurudu https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/options/ippm/ippm-archive%40lists.ietf.org From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Tue May 13 02:19:12 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA28423 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 02:19:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4D5j6g05176 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 May 2003 01:45:06 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4D5j5B05173 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 01:45:05 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA28369 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 02:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19FT9S-0007mn-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 May 2003 02:20:38 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19FT9S-0007mj-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 May 2003 02:20:38 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4D5eaB04923; Tue, 13 May 2003 01:40:36 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4D5ZPB03841 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 01:35:25 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA25660 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 02:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19FT06-0007hq-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Tue, 13 May 2003 02:10:59 -0400 Received: from mesa.acns.colostate.edu ([129.82.100.130]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19FT06-0007hn-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Tue, 13 May 2003 02:10:58 -0400 Received: from lamar.colostate.edu (lamar.acns.colostate.edu [129.82.100.75]) by mesa.acns.ColoState.EDU (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19766 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 00:12:02 -0600 Received: from engr.colostate.edu (res096090.halls.colostate.edu [129.82.96.90] (may be forged)) by lamar.colostate.edu (AIX5.1/8.11.0/8.8.8) with ESMTP id h4D6C1j441064 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 00:12:01 -0600 Message-ID: <3EC08D59.1070203@engr.colostate.edu> Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 00:14:49 -0600 From: Nischal M Piratla User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ippm@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ippm] interpacket gaps at source. Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, We are trying to understand the distribution of interpacket gaps over internet at the sender's end and at the receiver's end and in the link. Are there any publications that have studied the interpacket gap distributions over Internet. If not, can anyone explain as to what values of these gaps should be used at source to simulate the actual packet gaps over Internet? I would appreciate any input or guess work related to this topic. Thanks, Nischal *********************************************** > Research Assistant > Computer Networking Research Laboratory (CNRL) > Department of Electrical and Computer Eng. > Colorado State University, > Fort Collins, CO 80523 > Voice: +1 970-491-7974 > Fax: +1 970-491-2249 > http://www.engr.colostate.edu/ece/Research/cnrl > *********************************************** _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Tue May 13 07:23:03 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA04047 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 07:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4DAn2B09784 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 May 2003 06:49:02 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4DAn1B09777 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 06:49:01 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA04042 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 07:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19FXtT-0001mt-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 May 2003 07:24:27 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19FXtT-0001mq-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 May 2003 07:24:27 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4DAltB09739; Tue, 13 May 2003 06:47:55 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h45Aks822771 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 06:46:54 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA28677 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 06:38:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19CdON-00051j-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 05 May 2003 06:40:19 -0400 Received: from mailhost.advanced.org ([12.29.241.3] ident=root) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19CdOH-00051S-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 05 May 2003 06:40:13 -0400 Received: from ex.harpak.tsk.mil.tr ([193.255.158.3]) by mailhost.advanced.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Debian-1) with ESMTP id h45AeNII009053 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 06:40:24 -0400 Received: from ERDAL ([192.168.10.92]) by ex.harpak.tsk.mil.tr with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.10) id J4J0WLJT; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:40:21 +0300 Message-ID: <00da01c31346$b2a593a0$5c0aa8c0@erdal> From: "erdal@itu" To: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:41:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C3130C.03832ED0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) Subject: [ippm] SpecialIssueCFP-Generalized-Ad-Hoc-Networks-and-QoS Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C3130C.03832ED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Call for Papers Ad Hoc Networks Journal (Elsevier) http://www.elsevier.com/locate/adhoc Special Issue on: Generalized Ad Hoc Networks (GAHN) and Quality of Service (QoS) Data networks increasingly offer users a wide variety of networking = modalities, both wired and wireless, allowing user traffic to be routed = over many alternate paths, at different costs, with different levels of = QoS, reliability, robustness and power consumption. We will call such = systems "Generalized Ad Hoc Networks" (GAHN), and the concept includes = conventional wireless ad hoc networks. By the term "user" we do not "just" mean the end user: we include a = variety of economic agents, such as ISPs, who derive benefit from the = data being carried, and we also include all the other lower level agents = including common carriers. However, the actual paths, costs, and QoS = outcomes received by these users remain generally opaque to the most of = them, and appear at a "per connection" result for the end user, and at = aggregate economic levels for many other actors. QoS itself should be = understood broadly, including concerns about reliability and robustness, = power utilization, pricing and economics and obviously also conventional = QoS metrics. This special issue seeks visionary and forward looking papers based on = sound technical arguments, experimental designs, measurements, or = theoretical analysis, which address QoS in GAHN. Of course, technical = contributions relating QoS to conventional wireless ad hoc networks are = also welcome. Topics include, but are not limited to: - QoS and routing in AHN and GAHN - Power aware routing - Combining routing and priority schemes in AHN - Composite and multicriterion QoS metrics - Using concepts from eceonomics and game theory in GAHN - Mixed wired and wireless AHN design - Security in GAHN and AHN - Experimental systems and test-beds Papers not to exceed 25 pages should be submitted electronically in the = form of a postscript file, before September 1 2003, to Prof. Erol = Gelenbe at erol@cs.ucf.edu -- The time-table for this special issue will = be as follows: Submission Deadline: September 1, 2003 Decision Notification: Dec. 15, 2003 Publication Date: Second Quarter of 2004 Erol Gelenbe erol@cs.ucf.edu Tel: 407 823 0345 Fax: 407 823 5419 ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C3130C.03832ED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Call for Papers
 
Ad Hoc Networks Journal = (Elsevier)
http://www.elsevier.com/loc= ate/adhoc
 

Special Issue on:
 
Generalized Ad Hoc Networks (GAHN) and Quality of Service = (QoS)
 
Data networks increasingly offer users a wide variety of networking = modalities, both wired and wireless, allowing user traffic to be routed = over=20 many alternate paths, at different costs, with different levels of QoS,=20 reliability, robustness and power consumption. We will call such systems = "Generalized Ad Hoc Networks" (GAHN), and the concept includes = conventional=20 wireless ad hoc networks.
 
By the term "user" we do not "just" mean the end user: we include a = variety=20 of economic agents, such as ISPs, who derive benefit from the data being = carried, and we also include all the other lower level agents including = common=20 carriers. However, the actual paths, costs, and QoS outcomes received by = these=20 users remain generally opaque to the most of them, and appear at a "per=20 connection" result for the end user, and at aggregate economic levels = for many=20 other actors. QoS itself should be understood broadly, including = concerns about=20 reliability and robustness, power utilization, pricing and economics and = obviously also conventional QoS metrics.
 
This special issue seeks visionary and forward looking papers based = on=20 sound technical arguments, experimental designs, measurements, or = theoretical=20 analysis, which address QoS in GAHN. Of course, technical contributions = relating=20 QoS to conventional wireless ad hoc networks are also welcome. Topics = include,=20 but are not limited to:
 
- QoS and routing in AHN and GAHN
- Power aware routing
- = Combining=20 routing and priority schemes in AHN
- Composite and multicriterion = QoS=20 metrics
- Using concepts from eceonomics and game theory in GAHN
- = Mixed=20 wired and wireless AHN design
- Security in GAHN and AHN
- = Experimental=20 systems and test-beds
 
Papers not to exceed 25 pages should be submitted electronically in = the=20 form of a postscript file, before September 1 2003, to Prof. Erol = Gelenbe at erol@cs.ucf.edu -- The time-table = for this=20 special issue will be as follows:
 
Submission Deadline: September 1, 2003
Decision Notification: = Dec. 15,=20 2003
Publication Date: Second Quarter of 2004
 

Erol Gelenbe
 
erol@cs.ucf.edu
Tel: 407 = 823=20 0345
Fax: 407 823 5419
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C3130C.03832ED0-- _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Tue May 13 07:26:24 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA04142 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 07:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4DAqNv09997 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 May 2003 06:52:23 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4DAqNB09994 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 06:52:23 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA04136 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 07:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19FXwj-0001oZ-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 May 2003 07:27:49 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19FXwj-0001oW-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 May 2003 07:27:49 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4DAp3B09875; Tue, 13 May 2003 06:51:03 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h47FGQ825084 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 11:16:26 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA05068 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 11:06:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19DQXT-0002B2-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 11:08:59 -0400 Received: from mailhost.advanced.org ([12.29.241.3] ident=root) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19DQXS-0002Az-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 11:08:58 -0400 Received: from mailman.research.att.com (H-135-207-24-32.research.att.com [135.207.24.32]) by mailhost.advanced.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Debian-1) with ESMTP id h47F9o50002626 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 11:09:51 -0400 Received: from bigmail.research.att.com (bigmail.research.att.com [135.207.30.101]) by mailman.research.att.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h47F6pZs001343 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 11:06:51 -0400 Received: from research.att.com (wold1037.research.att.com [135.207.49.37]) by bigmail.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h47F9oV14619 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 11:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3EB921F6.5E671869@research.att.com> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 11:10:46 -0400 From: Tim Griffin Organization: AT&T Labs Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ippm@advanced.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ippm] CFP: 11th IEEE International Conference on Network Protocols (ICNP'03) Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit REMINDER: The paper registration is only 3 days away! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CALL FOR PAPERS 11th IEEE International Conference on Network Protocols (ICNP'03) Atlanta, Georgia November 4-7, 2003 http://icnp03.cc.gatech.edu ICNP is a highly selective conference dealing with all aspects of communication protocols including design, specification, analysis, verification, implementation, and performance. The program consists of a full day of tutorials followed by a single three-day track of peer-reviewed papers, including a limited number of invited talks and panels. The web page will contain up-to-date information on the conference program and tutorials. High-quality papers dealing with any aspect of network protocols are solicited for submission to the conference. Topics of particular interest include, but are not limited to: protocol testing and analysis protocol design and implementation network measurement and monitoring ad-hoc and sensor networks peer-to-peer/overlay protocols routing protocols wireless and mobile networks security multimedia distributed gaming QoS signaling flow and congestion control active/programmable networks IMPORTANT DATES: Register title, abstract and author affiliations: May 9, 2003 Paper submission (hard deadline): May 16, 2003 Acceptance: July 25, 2003 Camera ready: August 25, 2003 GENERAL CO-CHAIRS: Kevin Almeroth, UC Santa Barbara Ken Calvert, U. of Kentucky PROGRAM CO-CHAIRS: Jorg Liebeherr, U. of Virginia Ellen Zegura, Georgia Tech PROGRAM COMMITTEE: Kevin Almeroth, UC Santa Barbara Mostafa Ammar, Georgia Tech Paul Barford, U. of Wisconsin Bobby Bhattacharjee, U. of Maryland Ernst Biersack, Eurecom John Byers, Boston University Andrew Campbell, Columbia University Reuven Cohen, Technion John Crowcroft, U. of Cambridge Constantinos Dovrolis, Georgia Tech Wolfgang Effelsberg, U. of Mannheim Magda El Zarki, UC Irvine Michalis Faloutsos, UC Riverside Serge Fdida, U. of Pierre and Marie Curie Lixin Gao, U. of Massachusetts Timothy G. Griffin, AT&T Research Katie Guo, Bell Labs Teruo Higashino, Osaka University Sugih Jamin, U. of Michigan Ed Knightly, Rice University Jim Kurose, U. of Massachusetts Tom Laporta, Penn State University Brian Levine, U. of Massachusetts Steven Low, CalTech Ibrahim Matta, Boston University Sue Moon, Sprint ATL Klara Nahrstedt, U. of Illinois Venkat Padmanabhan, Microsoft Research Kihong Park, Purdue University Sanjoy Paul, Bell Labs Jennifer Rexford, AT&T Research Dan Rubenstein, Columbia University Srini Seshan, CMU R. Srikant, U. of Illinois Rolf Stadler, Royal Institute of Technology Ioannis Stavrakakis, University of Athens Peter Steenkiste, CMU Joe Touch, ISI Don Towsley, U. of Massachusetts Hassan Ural, U. of Ottawa Jim Xu, Georgia Tech David Yau, Purdue University _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Fri May 16 09:26:09 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA22980 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4GCrc408129 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 16 May 2003 08:53:38 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4GCrcB08126 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 08:53:38 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA22974 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GfFC-0006tt-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:27:30 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GfFC-0006tp-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:27:30 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4GCq1B08037; Fri, 16 May 2003 08:52:01 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4GCn4B07922 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 08:49:04 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA22718 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:21:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GfAn-0006px-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:22:57 -0400 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GfAm-0006oq-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:22:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9DA7B48B; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:23:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dhcp8.hep.ucl.ac.uk (dhcp8.hep.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.4.48]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603737B483; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:23:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:23:49 -0400 From: Matthew J Zekauskas To: ippm@ietf.org Cc: Matt Zekauskas , Merike Kaeo Message-ID: <18138571.1053077029@localhost> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ippm] Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The latest draft of "IPPM Metrics Registry" has all the fixes and changes suggested on this list, at previous IETF meetings, and from our MIB advisor. The co-chairs propose a Working Group last-call for this document, draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt. Please comment on whether or not you feel that this Internet-Draft should be given to the Area Directors and the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard RFC. Submit your comments to the IPPM mailing list or to the chairs or I-D authors as you feel appropriate (although public comments are preferred). This Working Group last call will end on Monday, June 2, 2003 at 12:00 EST. One pointer for the document is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt --Matt Zekauskas & Merike Kaeo _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Fri May 16 09:36:38 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA23886 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:36:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4GD48208795 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:04:08 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4GD48B08792 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:04:08 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA23849 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:36:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GfPM-0007Af-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:38:00 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GfPL-0007Ac-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:37:59 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4GD19B08642; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:01:09 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4GD0dB08570 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:00:39 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA23527 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GfM0-000743-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:34:32 -0400 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GfLz-00073x-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:34:31 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818FB7B48B; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dhcp8.hep.ucl.ac.uk (dhcp8.hep.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.4.48]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF0B7B483; Fri, 16 May 2003 09:35:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:35:36 -0400 From: Matthew J Zekauskas To: ippm@ietf.org Cc: Matthew J Zekauskas Subject: Re: [ippm] Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt Message-ID: <18845328.1053077736@localhost> In-Reply-To: <18138571.1053077029@localhost> References: <18138571.1053077029@localhost> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One nit: I believe we need to add a comment for IANA. From http://www.ietf.org/ID-nits.html: IANA Considerations section: "Required if the document requires IANA to assign or update values in an IANA registry before RFC publication. Note that for the assignment of just an OID for a MIB or PIB Module, no IANA Considerations section is required; it is sufficient to request such via a MIB/SMI or PIB/SPPI comment line, aka: ::= { mib-2 xxx } -- xxx to be assigned by IANA" (Don't create a new version based on this yet, let's wait for other comments.) --Matt _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Sun May 18 10:24:01 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA10677 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4IDqW414833 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 18 May 2003 09:52:32 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4IDqWB14830 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 09:52:32 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA10672 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:23:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19HP6I-0003zg-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:25:22 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19HP6H-0003zc-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:25:21 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4IDocB14763; Sun, 18 May 2003 09:50:38 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4IDmEB14707 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 09:48:14 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA10627 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:19:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19HP28-0003yh-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:21:04 -0400 Received: from telchemy.com ([66.155.69.251]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19HP28-0003yd-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:21:04 -0400 Received: from alansnotebook [66.156.21.31] by telchemy.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.14) id A6E44840296; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:21:24 -0400 From: "Alan Clark" To: "Nischal M Piratla" , Subject: RE: [ippm] interpacket gaps at source. Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 10:25:03 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3EC08D59.1070203@engr.colostate.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nischal Do you mean interpacket gaps at the sending endpoint or sending Internet access point - i.e. the gaps for a single stream or an aggregate of multiple streams? We have done some work in the endpoint area related to RTP streams - looking at the distribution of inter-RTP intervals at the sending endpoint and receiving endpoint. We've also developed a model for simulating the packet delays due to LAN and access link congestion; this is based on trains of impulses (with an occurrence probability that depends on congestion and a height that depends on serialization delay) passing through a filter function - basically a time series approach. Regards Alan Clark Telchemy -----Original Message----- From: ippm-admin@ietf.org [mailto:ippm-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Nischal M Piratla Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 2:15 AM To: ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] interpacket gaps at source. Hi all, We are trying to understand the distribution of interpacket gaps over internet at the sender's end and at the receiver's end and in the link. Are there any publications that have studied the interpacket gap distributions over Internet. If not, can anyone explain as to what values of these gaps should be used at source to simulate the actual packet gaps over Internet? I would appreciate any input or guess work related to this topic. 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