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INTIMATE 2003 (INternet TraffIc MAtrices Estimation) Paris, France http://adonis.lip6.fr/intimate2003/ The INTIMATE (INternet TraffIc MAtrices Estimation) workshop will be be held in Paris in June 16 and 17th, 2003. INTIMATE Workshop is focused on traffic matrices estimation techniques. The idea behind this workshop is to bring together people working, not just generally in network tomography, but more specifically on traffic matrices. Because traffic matrices are the input to most traffic engineering applications, this area is very important to carriers and ISPs. Recent research has revealed that this problem area is rich and raises a variety of challenging technical difficulties for researchers. The goal of this workshop is to provide a forum for researchers to carry on detailed discussions while sharing ideas and problems. This workshop is by invitation only and will be limited to approximately 50 people in order to keep it small so that much discussion can take place. At least 2 major tier-1 ISPs (Sprint, AT&T) and one historical European telco (FT) will participate providing their perspective on applications and needs. It will be a 2-day workshop with 2 panels and a series of invited talks. We will cover the following topics: · Statistical and non-statistical estimation methods · Methods for generating good starting points for estimation · Stationary and non-stationary traffic matrices, temporal issues · Validation Methods and Problems · Modeling Assumptions · Scalability Issues for Estimation and Validation · Applications · Impact of errors in traffic matrix estimation on traffic We have actually up to 14 invited speakers among the most renown networking researchers. We target an attendance level of 50 participants. Registration is open NOW. Please make hotel reservations as soon as possible. Kavé Salamatian Local organiser of INTIMATE workshop _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Tue Jun 3 17:01:17 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA24514 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 17:01:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h53KwGB28018; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:58:17 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h53Ku4B27964 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:56:04 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA24218 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:56:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NInN-0002h9-00 for IPPM@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 16:54:13 -0400 Received: from nan-smtp-08.noos.net ([212.198.2.77] helo=smtp.noos.fr) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NInM-0002gz-00 for IPPM@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 16:54:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 10904593 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jun 2003 20:55:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Perse1) ([212.198.205.203]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.77 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Jun 2003 20:55:29 -0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kav=E9_Salamatian?= To: Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:54:12 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-reply-to: <200305211210.IAA16076@ietf.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [ippm] INTIMATE 2003 call for participation Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Of interest for the measurement community Call for Participation! INTIMATE 2003 (INternet TraffIc MAtrices Estimation) Paris, France http://adonis.lip6.fr/intimate2003/ The INTIMATE (INternet TraffIc MAtrices Estimation) workshop will be be held in Paris in June 16 and 17th, 2003. INTIMATE Workshop is focused on traffic matrices estimation techniques. The idea behind this workshop is to bring together people working, not just generally in network tomography, but more specifically on traffic matrices. Because traffic matrices are the input to most traffic engineering applications, this area is very important to carriers and ISPs. Recent research has revealed that this problem area is rich and raises a variety of challenging technical difficulties for researchers. The goal of this workshop is to provide a forum for researchers to carry on detailed discussions while sharing ideas and problems. This workshop is by invitation only and will be limited to approximately 50 people in order to keep it small so that much discussion can take place. At least 2 major tier-1 ISPs (Sprint, AT&T) and one historical European telco (FT) will participate providing their perspective on applications and needs. It will be a 2-day workshop with 2 panels and a series of invited talks. We will cover the following topics: · Statistical and non-statistical estimation methods · Methods for generating good starting points for estimation · Stationary and non-stationary traffic matrices, temporal issues · Validation Methods and Problems · Modeling Assumptions · Scalability Issues for Estimation and Validation · Applications · Impact of errors in traffic matrix estimation on traffic We have actually up to 14 invited speakers among the most renown networking researchers. We target an attendance level of 50 participants. Registration is open NOW. Please make hotel reservations as soon as possible. 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Title : IP Measurement Protocol (IPMP) Author(s) : A. McGregor, M. Luckie Filename : draft-mcgregor-ipmp-02.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2003-6-5 The practice and need for active network measurement is well established, however current tools are not well suited to this task, mostly because the protocols which they employ have not been designed for measurement of the modern Internet. The IP Measurement Protocol (IPMP) is based on packet-probes, and is designed to allow routers to participate in measurements by the insertion of path information as the probe passes between a pair of hosts. IPMP is tightly constrained and easy to implement. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mcgregor-ipmp-02.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I have been trying to fit a standard probability model to the data that is collected over network. I am able to do Non-Linear curve fitting and I realized that it is different from fitting a model. I would really appreicate any pointers for s/w that one can use to fit these standard models. - Nischal Piratla *********************************************** Research Assistant Computer Networking Research Laboratory Department of Electrical and Computer Eng. Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Voice: +1 970-491-7974 Fax: +1 970-491-2249 http://www.engr.colostate.edu/ece/Research/cnrl *********************************************** _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Tue Jun 10 12:47:58 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA08735 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5AGdcB07041; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:39:38 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5AGZBB06000 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:35:11 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA08307 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Pm3W-0000Jg-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:33:06 -0400 Received: from goku.engr.colostate.edu ([129.82.224.16]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Pm3V-0000Jc-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:33:05 -0400 Received: from engr.colostate.edu (zurix.engr.colostate.edu [129.82.224.183]) by goku.engr.colostate.edu (8.12.8/8.12.0.Beta7) with ESMTP id h5AGYw1m028489 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:34:58 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3EE6095F.6080303@engr.colostate.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:37:51 -0600 From: Nischal Piratla User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030529 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ippm@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ippm] Fitting a probability model. Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I have been trying to fit a standard probability model to the data that is collected over network. I am able to do Non-Linear curve fitting and I realized that it is different from fitting a model. I would really appreicate any pointers for s/w that one can use to fit these standard models. - Nischal Piratla *********************************************** Research Assistant Computer Networking Research Laboratory Department of Electrical and Computer Eng. Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Voice: +1 970-491-7974 Fax: +1 970-491-2249 http://www.engr.colostate.edu/ece/Research/cnrl *********************************************** _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Tue Jun 10 14:05:59 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA11202 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h5AI5Xc13131 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:05:33 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5AI5XB13127 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:05:33 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA11139 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19PnSv-000115-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:03:26 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19PnSv-000112-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:03:25 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5AI49B13024; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:04:09 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5AI0DB12872 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:00:13 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA10961 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19PnNm-0000yv-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:58:06 -0400 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19PnNl-0000ys-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:58:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB9A7B4D9 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bi-wireless-58.ncsa.uiuc.edu (bi-wireless-58.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.70.58]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CCD7B4D6 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:59:33 -0400 From: Matthew J Zekauskas To: ippm@ietf.org Subject: RE: [ippm] Fitting a probability model. 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(from ippm-admin) --Matt ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:59 PM +0200 From: Kavé Salamatian To: Nischal Piratla , ippm-admin@ietf.org Subject: RE: [ippm] Fitting a probability model. Dear Nischal, if you want to fit the data to a parametric family of distribution, for example to gaussian pdf or Gamma, etc, you should estimate the parameters of the distribution. Most frequently you can a Maximum likelihood approach. If your question is to test if a data set follows a specified distribution, you have a lot of Goodness of fit test (for example Kolmogoroff X^2 test for testing the adequation with a Gaussian). You might find all of these stuff in any basic statistic book. However, before using any approaches be sure that your data are not correlated as these approaches are very sensitive to correlation in the data. If the data are correlated you need more complex approaches. Good luck Kavé Salamatian -----Message d'origine----- De : ippm-admin@ietf.org [mailto:ippm-admin@ietf.org]De la part de Nischal Piratla Envoyé : mardi 10 juin 2003 18:38 À : ippm@ietf.org Objet : [ippm] Fitting a probability model. Hi all, I have been trying to fit a standard probability model to the data that is collected over network. I am able to do Non-Linear curve fitting and I realized that it is different from fitting a model. I would really appreicate any pointers for s/w that one can use to fit these standard models. - Nischal Piratla *********************************************** Research Assistant Computer Networking Research Laboratory Department of Electrical and Computer Eng. Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Voice: +1 970-491-7974 Fax: +1 970-491-2249 http://www.engr.colostate.edu/ece/Research/cnrl *********************************************** _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm ---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Tue Jun 10 14:06:55 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA11232 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5AI49B13024; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:04:09 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5AI0DB12872 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:00:13 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA10961 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19PnNm-0000yv-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:58:06 -0400 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19PnNl-0000ys-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:58:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB9A7B4D9 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bi-wireless-58.ncsa.uiuc.edu (bi-wireless-58.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.70.58]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CCD7B4D6 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:59:33 -0400 From: Matthew J Zekauskas To: ippm@ietf.org Subject: RE: [ippm] Fitting a probability model. (fwd) Message-ID: <584908994.1055253573@localhost> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www1.ietf.org id h5AI0DB12873 Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit forward back to the list... (from ippm-admin) --Matt ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:59 PM +0200 From: Kavé Salamatian To: Nischal Piratla , ippm-admin@ietf.org Subject: RE: [ippm] Fitting a probability model. Dear Nischal, if you want to fit the data to a parametric family of distribution, for example to gaussian pdf or Gamma, etc, you should estimate the parameters of the distribution. Most frequently you can a Maximum likelihood approach. If your question is to test if a data set follows a specified distribution, you have a lot of Goodness of fit test (for example Kolmogoroff X^2 test for testing the adequation with a Gaussian). You might find all of these stuff in any basic statistic book. However, before using any approaches be sure that your data are not correlated as these approaches are very sensitive to correlation in the data. If the data are correlated you need more complex approaches. Good luck Kavé Salamatian -----Message d'origine----- De : ippm-admin@ietf.org [mailto:ippm-admin@ietf.org]De la part de Nischal Piratla Envoyé : mardi 10 juin 2003 18:38 À : ippm@ietf.org Objet : [ippm] Fitting a probability model. Hi all, I have been trying to fit a standard probability model to the data that is collected over network. I am able to do Non-Linear curve fitting and I realized that it is different from fitting a model. I would really appreicate any pointers for s/w that one can use to fit these standard models. - Nischal Piratla *********************************************** Research Assistant Computer Networking Research Laboratory Department of Electrical and Computer Eng. 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The goal of this document is to open a discussion on whether there should be a BOF to address these at the next IETF (Vienna, July 2003). We welcome comments/inputs from everyone. The draft can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bhattacharyya-monitoring-deplo yment-00.txt Thanks and regards, Supratik Bhattacharyya Gianluca Iannaccone Christophe Diot _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Wed Jun 11 16:52:01 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA02370 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:52:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5BKn2m02598; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:49:02 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5BKhdm02211 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:43:39 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA01862 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QCPU-0003eX-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:41:32 -0400 Received: from mailhost.advanced.org ([12.29.241.3] ident=root) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QCPT-0003eU-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:41:31 -0400 Received: from smtp-out.sprintlabs.com (smtp-out.sprintlabs.com [208.30.172.76]) by mailhost.advanced.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Debian-1) with ESMTP id h5BKha7G016081 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:43:36 -0400 Received: from mailman.sprintlabs.com (mx.sprintlabs.com [199.2.53.192]) by smtp-out.sprintlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D7CB811A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mailman.sprintlabs.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:43:35 -0700 Received: from IPTOSH1 (ip-tosh-1.sprintlabs.com [199.2.53.185]) by mailman.sprintlabs.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2656.59) id K9G4SQWV; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:43:33 -0700 From: Supratik Bhattacharyya To: ippm@advanced.org Cc: Supratik Bhattacharyya Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:43:33 -0700 Message-ID: <7F2A07FEA8F5624E887FE460E6E0527D01F3ABFF@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ippm] (no subject) Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email.] Greetings, We have written a short internet draft on issues and concerns in deploying monitoring infrastructure in ISP networks. The goal of this document is to open a discussion on whether there should be a BOF to address these at the next IETF (Vienna, July 2003). We welcome comments/inputs from everyone. The draft can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bhattacharyya-monitoring-deplo yment-00.txt Thanks and regards, Supratik Bhattacharyya Gianluca Iannaccone Christophe Diot _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Thu Jun 12 07:22:41 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA03818 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:22:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h5CBMCI10563 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:22:12 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5CBMCm10560 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:22:12 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA03810 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QQ7g-0000kS-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:20:04 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QQ7g-0000kP-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:20:04 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5CBLLm10520; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:21:21 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5CBJMm10333 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:19:22 -0400 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA03608; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200306121119.HAA03608@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: ippm@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:19:20 -0400 Subject: [ippm] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-reqs-06.txt Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : A One-way Active Measurement Protocol Requirements Author(s) : S. Shalunov, B. Teitelbaum Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-reqs-06.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2003-6-11 With growing availability of good time sources to network nodes, it becomes increasingly possible to measure one-way IP performance metrics with high precision. To do so in an interoperable manner, a common protocol for such measurements is required. This document specifies requirements for a one-way active measurement protocol (OWAMP) standard. The protocol can measure one-way delay, as well as other unidirectional characteristics, such as one-way loss. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-reqs-06.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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Are you suggesting that SNMP would not meet your needs and therefore are proposing to develop a different control plane protocol? Conceptually, your draft has merit. There are several groups some of which you mentioned, that are working to define metrics. However, there is a great deal of latitude in how those metrics may be applied in a monitoring solution. If you are proposing a work group that would use existing metrics and then identify how they should be used in a unified manner, then I think the work group would have value. Guidelines on the selection of metrics, the nominal data values, the reporting mechanisms and information content would be useful if it could be standardized. Another point is that general monitoring can take on a very large scope. Monitoring for a particular goal may be a more realistic and manageable task. For example, monitoring for Fault Management is quite different then monitoring for Performance Management. regards ============================================ Robert Holley Network Consulting Engineer Global Solutions Engineering Cisco Systems 7025 Kit Creek Road. Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 Phone: +1 919-392-2359 Pager: +1 800-796-7363 pin 100-9187 ============================================ > -----Original Message----- > From: ippm-admin@ietf.org [mailto:ippm-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of > Supratik Bhattacharyya > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:44 PM > To: ippm@advanced.org > Cc: Supratik Bhattacharyya > Subject: [ippm] (no subject) > > > [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email.] > > Greetings, > > We have written a short internet draft on issues and concerns in > deploying monitoring infrastructure in ISP networks. The goal of this > document is to open a discussion on whether there should be a BOF to > address these at the next IETF (Vienna, July 2003). We welcome > comments/inputs from everyone. > > The draft can be found at: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bhattacharyya-monitoring-deplo > yment-00.txt > > > Thanks and regards, > > Supratik Bhattacharyya > Gianluca Iannaccone > Christophe Diot > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Thu Jun 12 08:27:29 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA07089 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5CCO0m15272; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:24:00 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5CCMhm15149 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:22:43 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA06628 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:22:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QR4F-0001WU-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:20:35 -0400 Received: from mailhost.advanced.org ([12.29.241.3] ident=root) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QR4E-0001WR-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:20:34 -0400 Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-core-1.cisco.com [64.102.124.12]) by mailhost.advanced.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Debian-1) with ESMTP id h5CCMe7G007835 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:22:41 -0400 Received: from dogwood.cisco.com (dogwood.cisco.com [161.44.11.19]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5CCMcLU002373; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:22:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from RHOLLEYW2K1 (dhcp-64-102-43-180.cisco.com [64.102.43.180]) by dogwood.cisco.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/CISCO.SERVER.1.2) with SMTP id IAA22428; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:22:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert Holley" To: "Supratik Bhattacharyya" , Subject: RE: [ippm] (no subject) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:22:37 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7F2A07FEA8F5624E887FE460E6E0527D01F3ABFF@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Supratik, After reviewing your draft, I have a few comments; You mentioned the need for a new control plane protocol. Are you suggesting that SNMP would not meet your needs and therefore are proposing to develop a different control plane protocol? Conceptually, your draft has merit. There are several groups some of which you mentioned, that are working to define metrics. However, there is a great deal of latitude in how those metrics may be applied in a monitoring solution. If you are proposing a work group that would use existing metrics and then identify how they should be used in a unified manner, then I think the work group would have value. Guidelines on the selection of metrics, the nominal data values, the reporting mechanisms and information content would be useful if it could be standardized. Another point is that general monitoring can take on a very large scope. Monitoring for a particular goal may be a more realistic and manageable task. For example, monitoring for Fault Management is quite different then monitoring for Performance Management. regards ============================================ Robert Holley Network Consulting Engineer Global Solutions Engineering Cisco Systems 7025 Kit Creek Road. Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 Phone: +1 919-392-2359 Pager: +1 800-796-7363 pin 100-9187 ============================================ > -----Original Message----- > From: ippm-admin@ietf.org [mailto:ippm-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of > Supratik Bhattacharyya > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:44 PM > To: ippm@advanced.org > Cc: Supratik Bhattacharyya > Subject: [ippm] (no subject) > > > [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email.] > > Greetings, > > We have written a short internet draft on issues and concerns in > deploying monitoring infrastructure in ISP networks. The goal of this > document is to open a discussion on whether there should be a BOF to > address these at the next IETF (Vienna, July 2003). We welcome > comments/inputs from everyone. > > The draft can be found at: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bhattacharyya-monitoring-deplo > yment-00.txt > > > Thanks and regards, > > Supratik Bhattacharyya > Gianluca Iannaccone > Christophe Diot > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Thu Jun 12 11:09:33 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA15092 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:09:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h5CF97R30798 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:09:07 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5CF96m30795 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:09:06 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA15065 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QTfF-0003Jn-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:06:57 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QTfE-0003Jk-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:06:56 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5CF7pm30628; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:07:51 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5CF4Zm29538 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:04:35 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA14857 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QTar-0003H7-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:02:25 -0400 Received: from mailhost.advanced.org ([12.29.241.3] ident=root) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QTar-0003H4-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:02:25 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (sea2-f50.sea2.hotmail.com [207.68.165.50]) by mailhost.advanced.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Debian-1) with ESMTP id h5CF4V7G012219 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:04:31 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:04:31 -0700 Received: from 193.116.20.220 by sea2fd.sea2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:04:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.116.20.220] X-Originating-Email: [seun_ewulomi@hotmail.com] From: "gab.seun jones.ewulomi" To: rholley@cisco.com, Supratik@sprintlabs.com, ippm@advanced.org Subject: RE: [ippm] (no subject) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:04:30 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2003 15:04:31.0101 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED2F92D0:01C330F3] X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mailhost.advanced.org id h5CF4V7G012219 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www1.ietf.org id h5CF4Zm29539 Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by www1.ietf.org id h5CF7pm30628 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www1.ietf.org id h5CF96m30795 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I would certainly find a working group as this of very great value. As your draft rightly explained there should be a framework or standard on how measurement within an isp networks should be applied. I for one have read so many papers/research on how different organizations and researchers approach how to measure and try and get an understanding of network traffic. I have utilized snmp down to using quantitative statistical methods, traffic matrix’s etc. to try and understand our traffic and there is still a lot I don’t understand. A working group like this will certainly as Robert.H said will have merits. I for one will like to know how others are actually monitoring their isp networks and most importantly the issues they face. I will certainly like to share and talk about my findings as well. Regards, seun OVE ARUPS & PARTNER >From: "Robert Holley" >To: "Supratik Bhattacharyya" , >Subject: RE: [ippm] (no subject) >Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:22:37 -0400 > >Supratik, > >After reviewing your draft, I have a few comments; > >You mentioned the need for a new control plane protocol. Are you suggesting >that SNMP would not meet your needs and therefore are proposing to develop >a >different control plane protocol? > >Conceptually, your draft has merit. There are several groups some of which >you mentioned, that are working to define metrics. However, there is a >great >deal of latitude in how those metrics may be applied in a monitoring >solution. If you are proposing a work group that would use existing metrics >and then identify how they should be used in a unified manner, then I think >the work group would have value. > >Guidelines on the selection of metrics, the nominal data values, the >reporting mechanisms and information content would be useful if it could be >standardized. > >Another point is that general monitoring can take on a very large scope. >Monitoring for a particular goal may be a more realistic and manageable >task. For example, monitoring for Fault Management is quite different then >monitoring for Performance Management. > >regards >============================================ >Robert Holley >Network Consulting Engineer >Global Solutions Engineering > >Cisco Systems >7025 Kit Creek Road. >Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 >Phone: +1 919-392-2359 >Pager: +1 800-796-7363 pin 100-9187 >============================================ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ippm-admin@ietf.org [mailto:ippm-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of > > Supratik Bhattacharyya > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:44 PM > > To: ippm@advanced.org > > Cc: Supratik Bhattacharyya > > Subject: [ippm] (no subject) > > > > > > [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email.] > > > > Greetings, > > > > We have written a short internet draft on issues and concerns in > > deploying monitoring infrastructure in ISP networks. The goal of this > > document is to open a discussion on whether there should be a BOF to > > address these at the next IETF (Vienna, July 2003). We welcome > > comments/inputs from everyone. > > > > The draft can be found at: > > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bhattacharyya-monitoring-deplo > > yment-00.txt > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Supratik Bhattacharyya > > Gianluca Iannaccone > > Christophe Diot > > _______________________________________________ > > ippm mailing list > > ippm@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > > > >_______________________________________________ >ippm mailing list >ippm@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Thu Jun 12 11:09:57 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA15118 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5CF7pm30628; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:07:51 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5CF4Zm29538 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:04:35 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA14857 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QTar-0003H7-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:02:25 -0400 Received: from mailhost.advanced.org ([12.29.241.3] ident=root) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QTar-0003H4-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:02:25 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (sea2-f50.sea2.hotmail.com [207.68.165.50]) by mailhost.advanced.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Debian-1) with ESMTP id h5CF4V7G012219 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:04:31 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:04:31 -0700 Received: from 193.116.20.220 by sea2fd.sea2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:04:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.116.20.220] X-Originating-Email: [seun_ewulomi@hotmail.com] From: "gab.seun jones.ewulomi" To: rholley@cisco.com, Supratik@sprintlabs.com, ippm@advanced.org Subject: RE: [ippm] (no subject) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:04:30 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2003 15:04:31.0101 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED2F92D0:01C330F3] X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-ng (Milter interface) X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mailhost.advanced.org id h5CF4V7G012219 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www1.ietf.org id h5CF4Zm29539 Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I would certainly find a working group as this of very great value. As your draft rightly explained there should be a framework or standard on how measurement within an isp networks should be applied. I for one have read so many papers/research on how different organizations and researchers approach how to measure and try and get an understanding of network traffic. I have utilized snmp down to using quantitative statistical methods, traffic matrix’s etc. to try and understand our traffic and there is still a lot I don’t understand. A working group like this will certainly as Robert.H said will have merits. I for one will like to know how others are actually monitoring their isp networks and most importantly the issues they face. I will certainly like to share and talk about my findings as well. Regards, seun OVE ARUPS & PARTNER >From: "Robert Holley" >To: "Supratik Bhattacharyya" , >Subject: RE: [ippm] (no subject) >Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:22:37 -0400 > >Supratik, > >After reviewing your draft, I have a few comments; > >You mentioned the need for a new control plane protocol. Are you suggesting >that SNMP would not meet your needs and therefore are proposing to develop >a >different control plane protocol? > >Conceptually, your draft has merit. There are several groups some of which >you mentioned, that are working to define metrics. However, there is a >great >deal of latitude in how those metrics may be applied in a monitoring >solution. If you are proposing a work group that would use existing metrics >and then identify how they should be used in a unified manner, then I think >the work group would have value. > >Guidelines on the selection of metrics, the nominal data values, the >reporting mechanisms and information content would be useful if it could be >standardized. > >Another point is that general monitoring can take on a very large scope. >Monitoring for a particular goal may be a more realistic and manageable >task. For example, monitoring for Fault Management is quite different then >monitoring for Performance Management. > >regards >============================================ >Robert Holley >Network Consulting Engineer >Global Solutions Engineering > >Cisco Systems >7025 Kit Creek Road. >Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 >Phone: +1 919-392-2359 >Pager: +1 800-796-7363 pin 100-9187 >============================================ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ippm-admin@ietf.org [mailto:ippm-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of > > Supratik Bhattacharyya > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:44 PM > > To: ippm@advanced.org > > Cc: Supratik Bhattacharyya > > Subject: [ippm] (no subject) > > > > > > [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email.] > > > > Greetings, > > > > We have written a short internet draft on issues and concerns in > > deploying monitoring infrastructure in ISP networks. The goal of this > > document is to open a discussion on whether there should be a BOF to > > address these at the next IETF (Vienna, July 2003). We welcome > > comments/inputs from everyone. > > > > The draft can be found at: > > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bhattacharyya-monitoring-deplo > > yment-00.txt > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Supratik Bhattacharyya > > Gianluca Iannaccone > > Christophe Diot > > _______________________________________________ > > ippm mailing list > > ippm@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > > > >_______________________________________________ >ippm mailing list >ippm@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Fri Jun 20 14:30:49 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA24191 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19TQe9-00020p-Vq; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:30:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19TQdP-000201-Ji for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:29:15 -0400 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA23702; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200306201829.OAA23702@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; CC: ippm@ietf.org, ipfix@net.doit.wisc.edu, psam@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:29:08 -0400 Subject: [ippm] I-D ACTION:draft-stephan-ippm-spatial-metrics-01.txt Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. 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The Call For Papers can be found at http://www.ieee-infocom.org/2004/. We are well aware that there is concern about SARS among some potential authors. However, the lifting of the travel advisories on Hong Kong by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the US Center for Disease Control (CDC) affirms that SARS is under control. There has not been any new SARS case in Hong Kong for the past several days. Of all the cities under WHO travel advisory in the rest of China, Beijing is the only one which remains on the list, although we expect it to be removed soon. While we continue to closely monitor the situation, be assured that we do have contingency plans. We will see what happens the rest of this year and will be prepared to reevaluate the situation in late November before the Advance Program is published. For now, we would like to reassure you all that IEEE INFOCOM 2004 will be held as planned. We encourage you to submit your work before July 1, 2003, and be considered to present your paper in a beautiful setting overlooking Hong Kong Harbor. You may also be interested to know that to welcome the world back to Hong Kong, the Hong Kong Tourism Board has prepared "coupons" to enhance overseas visitors' experience. These coupons will be available for download from the INFOCOM website soon, and you can redeem them when you come to Hong Kong next March. Call For Papers - Infocom 2004 -------------------------------------------- IEEE INFOCOM 2004 The Conference on Computer Communications March 7 - 11, 2004, Hong Kong The Twenty-third Annual Joint Conference of the IEEE Computer and Communications Societies http://www.ieee-infocom.org/2004 Topics of Interest: ------------------- Original papers are invited on recent advances in computer communications and networking. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following: - Ad hoc & sensor networks - Performance evaluation - Addressing & location management - Power control - Capacity planning - Pricing & billing - Cellular networks - Quality of service - Congestion control - Resource allocation - Content distribution - Routing - Multicast - Scheduling & buffer management - Multimedia protocols - Security & privacy - Network applications & services - Service overlay networks - Network architectures - Switches and switching - Network control by pricing - Topology inference - Network design & planning - Traffic analysis & control - Network management - Traffic engineering - Optical networks - Web performance - Peer-to-peer communications - Wireless LANs Executive Committee ------------------------------- General Chair: Victor O.K. Li, The University of Hong Kong Technical Program Co-Chairs: Marwan Krunz, University of Arizona Bo Li, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology International Vice Chairs: Jin-Fu Chang, National Chi-Nan University, Taiwan Jim Kurose, University of Massachusetts Amherst Lemin Li , University of Electronic Science and Technology of China Hiromi Okada , Kansai University, Japan Harry Rudin , IBM Research, Switzerland Izhak Rubin, UCLA Tutorial Co-Chairs: Wanjiun Liao, National Taiwan University, Taiwan Krishna M. Sivalingam, University of Maryland Baltimore County. Panel Co-Chairs: Kin Leung, Lucent Bell Labs Nicholas F. Maxemchuk, Columbia University. Keynote Speaker Chair: David Lee, Lucent Bell Labs, USA. Local Arrangement Co-Chairs: Paul Kwok, Open University of Hong Kong Jian-Liang Xu, Hong Kong Baptist University Finance Co-Chairs: Bruce Worthman, IEEE Comm Society Lawrence Yeung, The University of Hong Kong Publicity Co-Chairs: Mohsen Guizani, Western Michigan University Y. Thomas Hou , Virginia Tech Publication Co-Chairs: Steven Low, Caltech, USA. Zhengzhen Zhang, Waterridge Networks Internet Chair: Hui Zhang, Turin Networks Information Systems Co-Chairs: Jack Lee, The Chinese University of Hong Kong Jiangchuan Liu, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Corporate Patrons Chair: Hailson Yu, Versitech Ltd., Hong Kong Standing Committee Officers: Harvey A. Freeman, HeatSeekers Technology Partners Mark Karol, Avaya, Inc. Kazem Sohraby, Lucent Technolgies Important Dates: ------------------------ Full paper due: July 1, 2003 Notification of acceptance: October 30, 2003 Final version due: December 19, 2003 For information on paper submission instructions, please check http://www.ieee-infocom.org/2004 --=====================_112238953==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
July 1, 2003, the deadline for paper submission to IEEE INFOCOM 2004,
to be held in Hong Kong, March 7 - 11, 2004, is rapidly approaching.
The Call For Papers can be found at http://www.ieee-infocom.org/2004/.

We are well aware that there is concern about SARS among some
potential authors. However, the lifting of the travel advisories on Hong Kong
by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the US Center for Disease
Control (CDC) affirms that SARS is under control. There has not been
any new SARS case in Hong Kong for the past several days. Of all the
cities under WHO travel advisory in the rest of China, Beijing is the only
one which remains on the list, although we expect it to be removed soon.
While we continue to closely monitor the situation, be assured that we
do have contingency plans. We will see what happens the rest of this
year and will be prepared to reevaluate the situation in late November
before the Advance Program is published.

For now, we would like to reassure you all that IEEE INFOCOM 2004
will be held as planned. We encourage you to submit your work before
July 1, 2003, and be considered to present your paper in a beautiful
setting overlooking Hong Kong Harbor.

You may also be interested to know that to welcome the world back to
Hong Kong, the Hong Kong Tourism Board has prepared "coupons" to
enhance overseas visitors' experience. These coupons will be available
for download from the INFOCOM website soon, and you can redeem them
when you come to Hong Kong next March.

Call For Papers - Infocom 2004
--------------------------------------------
IEEE INFOCOM 2004 The Conference on Computer Communications
March 7 - 11, 2004, Hong Kong
The Twenty-third Annual Joint Conference of the IEEE Computer and
Communications Societies
http://www.ieee-infocom.org/2004

Topics of Interest:
-------------------
Original papers are invited on recent advances in computer
communications and networking. Topics of interest include,
but are not limited to, the following:

- Ad hoc & sensor networks                      - Performance evaluation
- Addressing & location management      - Power control
- Capacity planning                             - Pricing & billing
- Cellular networks                             - Quality of service
- Congestion control                            - Resource allocation
- Content distribution                          - Routing
- Multicast                                     - Scheduling & buffer management
- Multimedia protocols                          - Security & privacy
- Network applications & services               - Service overlay networks
- Network architectures                         - Switches and switching
- Network control by pricing                    - Topology inference
- Network design & planning                     - Traffic analysis & control
- Network management                            - Traffic engineering
- Optical networks                              - Web performance
- Peer-to-peer communications                   - Wireless LANs

Executive Committee
-------------------------------
General Chair:
     Victor O.K. Li, The University of Hong Kong
Technical Program Co-Chairs:
     Marwan Krunz, University of Arizona
     Bo Li, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
International Vice Chairs:
     Jin-Fu Chang, National Chi-Nan University, Taiwan
     Jim Kurose, University of Massachusetts Amherst
     Lemin Li , University of Electronic Science and Technology of China
     Hiromi Okada , Kansai University, Japan
     Harry Rudin , IBM Research, Switzerland
     Izhak Rubin, UCLA
Tutorial Co-Chairs:
     Wanjiun Liao, National Taiwan University, Taiwan
     Krishna M. Sivalingam, University of Maryland Baltimore County.
Panel Co-Chairs:
     Kin Leung, Lucent Bell Labs
     Nicholas F. Maxemchuk, Columbia University.
Keynote Speaker Chair:
     David Lee, Lucent Bell Labs, USA.
Local Arrangement Co-Chairs:
     Paul Kwok, Open University of Hong Kong
     Jian-Liang Xu, Hong Kong Baptist University
Finance Co-Chairs:
     Bruce Worthman, IEEE Comm Society
     Lawrence Yeung, The University of Hong Kong
Publicity Co-Chairs:
     Mohsen Guizani, Western Michigan University
     Y. Thomas Hou , Virginia Tech
Publication Co-Chairs:
     Steven Low, Caltech, USA.
     Zhengzhen Zhang, Waterridge Networks
Internet Chair:
     Hui Zhang, Turin Networks
Information Systems Co-Chairs:
     Jack Lee, The Chinese University of Hong Kong
     Jiangchuan Liu, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Corporate Patrons Chair:
     Hailson Yu, Versitech Ltd., Hong Kong
Standing Committee Officers:
     Harvey A. Freeman, HeatSeekers Technology Partners
     Mark Karol, Avaya, Inc.
     Kazem Sohraby, Lucent Technolgies

Important Dates:
------------------------
Full paper due:                 July 1, 2003
Notification of acceptance:     October 30, 2003
Final version due:                      December 19, 2003

For information on paper submission instructions,
please check
      http://www.ieee-infocom.org/2004


 
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The Call For Papers can be found at http://www.ieee-infocom.org/2004/. We are well aware that there is concern about SARS among some potential authors. However, the lifting of the travel advisories on Hong Kong by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the US Center for Disease Control (CDC) affirms that SARS is under control. There has not been any new SARS case in Hong Kong for the past several days. Of all the cities under WHO travel advisory in the rest of China, Beijing is the only one which remains on the list, although we expect it to be removed soon. While we continue to closely monitor the situation, be assured that we do have contingency plans. We will see what happens the rest of this year and will be prepared to reevaluate the situation in late November before the Advance Program is published. For now, we would like to reassure you all that IEEE INFOCOM 2004 will be held as planned. We encourage you to submit your work before July 1, 2003, and be considered to present your paper in a beautiful setting overlooking Hong Kong Harbor. You may also be interested to know that to welcome the world back to Hong Kong, the Hong Kong Tourism Board has prepared "coupons" to enhance overseas visitors' experience. These coupons will be available for download from the INFOCOM website soon, and you can redeem them when you come to Hong Kong next March. Call For Papers - Infocom 2004 -------------------------------------------- IEEE INFOCOM 2004 The Conference on Computer Communications March 7 - 11, 2004, Hong Kong The Twenty-third Annual Joint Conference of the IEEE Computer and Communications Societies http://www.ieee-infocom.org/2004 Topics of Interest: ------------------- Original papers are invited on recent advances in computer communications and networking. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following: - Ad hoc & sensor networks - Performance evaluation - Addressing & location management - Power control - Capacity planning - Pricing & billing - Cellular networks - Quality of service - Congestion control - Resource allocation - Content distribution - Routing - Multicast - Scheduling & buffer management - Multimedia protocols - Security & privacy - Network applications & services - Service overlay networks - Network architectures - Switches and switching - Network control by pricing - Topology inference - Network design & planning - Traffic analysis & control - Network management - Traffic engineering - Optical networks - Web performance - Peer-to-peer communications - Wireless LANs Executive Committee ------------------------------- General Chair: Victor O.K. Li, The University of Hong Kong Technical Program Co-Chairs: Marwan Krunz, University of Arizona Bo Li, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology International Vice Chairs: Jin-Fu Chang, National Chi-Nan University, Taiwan Jim Kurose, University of Massachusetts Amherst Lemin Li , University of Electronic Science and Technology of China Hiromi Okada , Kansai University, Japan Harry Rudin , IBM Research, Switzerland Izhak Rubin, UCLA Tutorial Co-Chairs: Wanjiun Liao, National Taiwan University, Taiwan Krishna M. Sivalingam, University of Maryland Baltimore County. Panel Co-Chairs: Kin Leung, Lucent Bell Labs Nicholas F. Maxemchuk, Columbia University. Keynote Speaker Chair: David Lee, Lucent Bell Labs, USA. Local Arrangement Co-Chairs: Paul Kwok, Open University of Hong Kong Jian-Liang Xu, Hong Kong Baptist University Finance Co-Chairs: Bruce Worthman, IEEE Comm Society Lawrence Yeung, The University of Hong Kong Publicity Co-Chairs: Mohsen Guizani, Western Michigan University Y. Thomas Hou , Virginia Tech Publication Co-Chairs: Steven Low, Caltech, USA. Zhengzhen Zhang, Waterridge Networks Internet Chair: Hui Zhang, Turin Networks Information Systems Co-Chairs: Jack Lee, The Chinese University of Hong Kong Jiangchuan Liu, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Corporate Patrons Chair: Hailson Yu, Versitech Ltd., Hong Kong Standing Committee Officers: Harvey A. Freeman, HeatSeekers Technology Partners Mark Karol, Avaya, Inc. Kazem Sohraby, Lucent Technolgies Important Dates: ------------------------ Full paper due: July 1, 2003 Notification of acceptance: October 30, 2003 Final version due: December 19, 2003 For information on paper submission instructions, please check http://www.ieee-infocom.org/2004 --=====================_112238953==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
July 1, 2003, the deadline for paper submission to IEEE INFOCOM 2004,
to be held in Hong Kong, March 7 - 11, 2004, is rapidly approaching.
The Call For Papers can be found at http://www.ieee-infocom.org/2004/.

We are well aware that there is concern about SARS among some
potential authors. However, the lifting of the travel advisories on Hong Kong
by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the US Center for Disease
Control (CDC) affirms that SARS is under control. There has not been
any new SARS case in Hong Kong for the past several days. Of all the
cities under WHO travel advisory in the rest of China, Beijing is the only
one which remains on the list, although we expect it to be removed soon.
While we continue to closely monitor the situation, be assured that we
do have contingency plans. We will see what happens the rest of this
year and will be prepared to reevaluate the situation in late November
before the Advance Program is published.

For now, we would like to reassure you all that IEEE INFOCOM 2004
will be held as planned. We encourage you to submit your work before
July 1, 2003, and be considered to present your paper in a beautiful
setting overlooking Hong Kong Harbor.

You may also be interested to know that to welcome the world back to
Hong Kong, the Hong Kong Tourism Board has prepared "coupons" to
enhance overseas visitors' experience. These coupons will be available
for download from the INFOCOM website soon, and you can redeem them
when you come to Hong Kong next March.

Call For Papers - Infocom 2004
--------------------------------------------
IEEE INFOCOM 2004 The Conference on Computer Communications
March 7 - 11, 2004, Hong Kong
The Twenty-third Annual Joint Conference of the IEEE Computer and
Communications Societies
http://www.ieee-infocom.org/2004

Topics of Interest:
-------------------
Original papers are invited on recent advances in computer
communications and networking. Topics of interest include,
but are not limited to, the following:

- Ad hoc & sensor networks                      - Performance evaluation
- Addressing & location management      - Power control
- Capacity planning                             - Pricing & billing
- Cellular networks                             - Quality of service
- Congestion control                            - Resource allocation
- Content distribution                          - Routing
- Multicast                                     - Scheduling & buffer management
- Multimedia protocols                          - Security & privacy
- Network applications & services               - Service overlay networks
- Network architectures                         - Switches and switching
- Network control by pricing                    - Topology inference
- Network design & planning                     - Traffic analysis & control
- Network management                            - Traffic engineering
- Optical networks                              - Web performance
- Peer-to-peer communications                   - Wireless LANs

Executive Committee
-------------------------------
General Chair:
     Victor O.K. Li, The University of Hong Kong
Technical Program Co-Chairs:
     Marwan Krunz, University of Arizona
     Bo Li, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
International Vice Chairs:
     Jin-Fu Chang, National Chi-Nan University, Taiwan
     Jim Kurose, University of Massachusetts Amherst
     Lemin Li , University of Electronic Science and Technology of China
     Hiromi Okada , Kansai University, Japan
     Harry Rudin , IBM Research, Switzerland
     Izhak Rubin, UCLA
Tutorial Co-Chairs:
     Wanjiun Liao, National Taiwan University, Taiwan
     Krishna M. Sivalingam, University of Maryland Baltimore County.
Panel Co-Chairs:
     Kin Leung, Lucent Bell Labs
     Nicholas F. Maxemchuk, Columbia University.
Keynote Speaker Chair:
     David Lee, Lucent Bell Labs, USA.
Local Arrangement Co-Chairs:
     Paul Kwok, Open University of Hong Kong
     Jian-Liang Xu, Hong Kong Baptist University
Finance Co-Chairs:
     Bruce Worthman, IEEE Comm Society
     Lawrence Yeung, The University of Hong Kong
Publicity Co-Chairs:
     Mohsen Guizani, Western Michigan University
     Y. Thomas Hou , Virginia Tech
Publication Co-Chairs:
     Steven Low, Caltech, USA.
     Zhengzhen Zhang, Waterridge Networks
Internet Chair:
     Hui Zhang, Turin Networks
Information Systems Co-Chairs:
     Jack Lee, The Chinese University of Hong Kong
     Jiangchuan Liu, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Corporate Patrons Chair:
     Hailson Yu, Versitech Ltd., Hong Kong
Standing Committee Officers:
     Harvey A. Freeman, HeatSeekers Technology Partners
     Mark Karol, Avaya, Inc.
     Kazem Sohraby, Lucent Technolgies

Important Dates:
------------------------
Full paper due:                 July 1, 2003
Notification of acceptance:     October 30, 2003
Final version due:                      December 19, 2003

For information on paper submission instructions,
please check
      http://www.ieee-infocom.org/2004


 
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