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Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpserv1.slac.stanford.edu (smtpserv1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.81]) by smtp.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with ESMTP id <0HMP00F1Q91VFN@smtp.slac.stanford.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ATREUS.win.slac.stanford.edu ([134.79.16.83]) by smtpserv1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with ESMTP id <0HMP00ABF91U07@smtpserv1.slac.stanford.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by atreus.slac.stanford.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:17:53 -0700 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:17:31 -0700 From: "Cottrell, Les" To: "Cottrell, Les" , "'Jing Shen'" , "'ippm@ietf.org'" Cc: "'end-to-end list'" Message-id: <2846497B437BF84BAD1A4CC407418D26028E54EF@exchange1.slac.stanford.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: [ippm] RE: [e2e] method to detect liveness of remote other than ping Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT The following was blocked by a spam filter complaining of non-English traffic. So I am resending it to get around the spamcontrol -----Original Message----- From: Cottrell, Les Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 7:07 AM To: 'Jing Shen'; ippm@ietf.org Cc: end-to-end list Subject: RE: [e2e] method to detect liveness of remote other than ping If you know a port that is open (e.g. ssh, web (80), telnet, FTP, DNS) you can try probing one of those ports. However, this may appear to the remote host admin as unfriendly and blocks may then be added for your host. We did some study on this a couple of years back (see http://www-iepm.slac.stanford.edu/monitoring/limit/limiting.html) mainly for the purpose of detecting ping rate limiting rather than outright blocking. We used a tool called synack (see http://www-iepm.slac.stanford.edu/tools/synack/, but note it only runs on Solaris) to probe different TCP ports and looked for the difference with ICMP pings. -----Original Message----- From: Jing Shen [mailto:jshen_cad@yahoo.com.cn] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 2:36 AM To: ippm@ietf.org Cc: end-to-end list Subject: [e2e] method to detect liveness of remote other than ping Hi, Usually, we detect remote end liveness by 'ping' remote end IP address. I want to know, if ping packet is filtered out by firewall which tools could be used to detect remote end liveness? thanks jing shen _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Oct 13 17:31:21 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA00304 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9AHL-0001mM-Rj for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:31:01 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9DLUxOg006832 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:30:59 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9AHK-0001m7-DQ for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:30:59 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA00241 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:30:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9AHH-0001cp-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:30:56 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9AHH-0001cm-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:30:55 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9AGQ-0001gV-4l; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:30:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A93WJ-0004P8-L8 for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:18:00 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA07317 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A93WH-0003BU-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:17:57 -0400 Received: from smtp.slac.stanford.edu ([134.79.18.80]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A93WG-0003BR-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:17:57 -0400 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp.slac.stanford.edu by smtp.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HMP00F0191VR0@smtp.slac.stanford.edu> for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpserv1.slac.stanford.edu (smtpserv1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.81]) by smtp.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with ESMTP id <0HMP00F1Q91VFN@smtp.slac.stanford.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ATREUS.win.slac.stanford.edu ([134.79.16.83]) by smtpserv1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with ESMTP id <0HMP00ABF91U07@smtpserv1.slac.stanford.edu>; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by atreus.slac.stanford.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:17:53 -0700 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:17:31 -0700 From: "Cottrell, Les" To: "Cottrell, Les" , "'Jing Shen'" , "'ippm@ietf.org'" Cc: "'end-to-end list'" Message-id: <2846497B437BF84BAD1A4CC407418D26028E54EF@exchange1.slac.stanford.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: [ippm] RE: [e2e] method to detect liveness of remote other than ping Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT The following was blocked by a spam filter complaining of non-English traffic. So I am resending it to get around the spamcontrol -----Original Message----- From: Cottrell, Les Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 7:07 AM To: 'Jing Shen'; ippm@ietf.org Cc: end-to-end list Subject: RE: [e2e] method to detect liveness of remote other than ping If you know a port that is open (e.g. ssh, web (80), telnet, FTP, DNS) you can try probing one of those ports. However, this may appear to the remote host admin as unfriendly and blocks may then be added for your host. We did some study on this a couple of years back (see http://www-iepm.slac.stanford.edu/monitoring/limit/limiting.html) mainly for the purpose of detecting ping rate limiting rather than outright blocking. We used a tool called synack (see http://www-iepm.slac.stanford.edu/tools/synack/, but note it only runs on Solaris) to probe different TCP ports and looked for the difference with ICMP pings. -----Original Message----- From: Jing Shen [mailto:jshen_cad@yahoo.com.cn] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 2:36 AM To: ippm@ietf.org Cc: end-to-end list Subject: [e2e] method to detect liveness of remote other than ping Hi, Usually, we detect remote end liveness by 'ping' remote end IP address. I want to know, if ping packet is filtered out by firewall which tools could be used to detect remote end liveness? thanks jing shen _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Tue Oct 14 03:05:43 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA28214 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9JEr-0002Or-M6; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:05:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9JDz-0002Nq-GU for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:04:07 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA28170 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9JDv-0006hK-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:04:03 -0400 Received: from web15202.mail.cnb.yahoo.com ([202.3.77.132] helo=web15202.mail.bjs.yahoo.com) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9JDu-0006h5-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:04:02 -0400 Message-ID: <20031014070331.78162.qmail@web15202.mail.bjs.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.96.99.70] by web15202.mail.bjs.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:03:31 CST Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:03:31 +0800 (CST) From: =?gb2312?q?Jing=20Shen?= Subject: Re: [ippm] method to determine remote liveness without ping To: ippm@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20031013213944.GD756@laptop.6bone.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id DAA28171 Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable agree. our target is to determine SLA parameters between two remote routers. The situation looks like: netmon customer host ----------Access Router __________router ^ ^ | | net link needs to monitor thanks=20 Jing Shen ' spamcontrol ' --- Mark Santcroos =B5=C4=D5=FD=CE=C4=A3=BA> On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:53:08PM +0800, Jing Shen > wrote: > > Usually we determine remote system liveness by > 'ping' > > to its IP address. If ping packet is filtered out > by > > firewall, how could we determine remote end > liveness? > > how could we measure 'availability' of a leased > line > > with packet filtering enabled? >=20 > Hi Jing, >=20 > A general rule of thumb that I tend to use is: >=20 > What do you want to use the remote machine for? Use > the answer of this > question to decide what you want to test for. >=20 > Example: Do you want to be able to ssh to it? That > means, you are not=20 > interested in the ability of the machine to answer > ICMP echo requests, you=20 > just want to know if you can make an ssh connection. >=20 > Mark=20 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?=20 =C6=F4=D3=C3=B5=E7=D3=CA=D5=CA=BA=C5=A3=AC=C1=EC=BB=E1=D1=C5=BB=A2=CD=A8[= =C9=ED=C1=D9=C6=E4=BE=B3=C1=C4=B5=E7=D3=B0]=B5=C4=B6=AF=B8=D0=F7=C8=C1=A6= =A3=AC=BB=B9=D3=D0=CD=F8=C2=E7=C9=E3=CF=F1=CD=B7+=D1=C5=BB=A2=CD=A8=CA=D5= =D2=F4=BB=FA=B5=C8=C4=E3=C0=B4=C4=C3 http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/?http://cn.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Oct 14 03:05:46 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA28229 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9JFF-0002Ra-Hl for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:05:26 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9E75PhC009390 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:05:25 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9JFE-0002RN-JZ for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:05:24 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA28204 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9JFA-0006hn-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:05:20 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9JFA-0006hk-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:05:20 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9JEr-0002Or-M6; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:05:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9JDz-0002Nq-GU for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:04:07 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA28170 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9JDv-0006hK-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:04:03 -0400 Received: from web15202.mail.cnb.yahoo.com ([202.3.77.132] helo=web15202.mail.bjs.yahoo.com) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9JDu-0006h5-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:04:02 -0400 Message-ID: <20031014070331.78162.qmail@web15202.mail.bjs.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.96.99.70] by web15202.mail.bjs.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:03:31 CST Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:03:31 +0800 (CST) From: =?gb2312?q?Jing=20Shen?= Subject: Re: [ippm] method to determine remote liveness without ping To: ippm@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20031013213944.GD756@laptop.6bone.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id DAA28171 Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable agree. our target is to determine SLA parameters between two remote routers. The situation looks like: netmon customer host ----------Access Router __________router ^ ^ | | net link needs to monitor thanks=20 Jing Shen ' spamcontrol ' --- Mark Santcroos =B5=C4=D5=FD=CE=C4=A3=BA> On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:53:08PM +0800, Jing Shen > wrote: > > Usually we determine remote system liveness by > 'ping' > > to its IP address. If ping packet is filtered out > by > > firewall, how could we determine remote end > liveness? > > how could we measure 'availability' of a leased > line > > with packet filtering enabled? >=20 > Hi Jing, >=20 > A general rule of thumb that I tend to use is: >=20 > What do you want to use the remote machine for? Use > the answer of this > question to decide what you want to test for. >=20 > Example: Do you want to be able to ssh to it? That > means, you are not=20 > interested in the ability of the machine to answer > ICMP echo requests, you=20 > just want to know if you can make an ssh connection. >=20 > Mark=20 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?=20 =C6=F4=D3=C3=B5=E7=D3=CA=D5=CA=BA=C5=A3=AC=C1=EC=BB=E1=D1=C5=BB=A2=CD=A8[= =C9=ED=C1=D9=C6=E4=BE=B3=C1=C4=B5=E7=D3=B0]=B5=C4=B6=AF=B8=D0=F7=C8=C1=A6= =A3=AC=BB=B9=D3=D0=CD=F8=C2=E7=C9=E3=CF=F1=CD=B7+=D1=C5=BB=A2=CD=A8=CA=D5= =D2=F4=BB=FA=B5=C8=C4=E3=C0=B4=C4=C3 http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/?http://cn.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Tue Oct 14 20:17:46 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA11076 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:17:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9ZLY-0006Rz-OF; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:17:00 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9OjO-00041D-2l for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:56:54 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA07252; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9OjL-00025H-00; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:56:51 -0400 Received: from p-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com ([195.101.245.15]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9OjK-00025C-00; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:56:51 -0400 Received: from lanmhs50.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.21.52]) by parsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6747); Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:55:47 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C39252.7C43E8AA" Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:55:46 +0200 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: IPPM registry status Thread-Index: AcOSUnmzjkQUFXc3R1q6SQQRfDPjyg== From: "STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN" To: "mankin@psg.com" <'mankin@psg.com'.cnri.reston.va.us> Cc: "jon.peterson@neustar.biz" <'jon.peterson@neustar.biz'.cnri.reston.va.us>, "matt@internet2.edu" <'matt@internet2.edu'.cnri.reston.va.us>, "kaeo@merike.com" <'kaeo@merike.com'.cnri.reston.va.us>, "Andy Bierman" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2003 12:55:47.0813 (UTC) FILETIME=[7CF85950:01C39252] Subject: [ippm] IPPM registry status Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C39252.7C43E8AA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Allison, In the IPPM WG, I am in charge of a 'IPPM Metrics Registry' draft named = draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt.=20 This registry was initially requested by the RMON WG to provide an 'IPPM = Metrics Registry' usable by any MIBs. The WG last call of the = draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt endded the 2 of June, 3 months = ago. I am puzzled about the status of the document which I still do not know. = So I would be grateful if you could help me by telling me: - What is the current status of the draft ?=20 - As the document draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt expires in = October 2003, do I have to post a version 05 in order to (only) update = the date of the document and keep it alive until the answer on its = status is clearly given? I suppose there might have been a bug in the processing, or there is = something that I missed. Anyway, your lights are welcome. Very Best Regards Emile -----Message d'origine----- De : Matthew J Zekauskas [mailto:matt@internet2.edu] Envoye : vendredi 16 mai 2003 15:24 A : ippm@ietf.org Cc : Matt Zekauskas; Merike Kaeo Objet : [ippm] Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt The latest draft of "IPPM Metrics Registry" has all the fixes and changes suggested on this list, at previous IETF meetings, and from our MIB advisor. The co-chairs propose a Working Group last-call for this document, draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt. Please comment on whether or not you feel that this Internet-Draft should be given to the Area Directors and the IESG for consideration as = a Proposed Standard RFC. Submit your comments to the IPPM mailing list or to the chairs or I-D authors as you feel appropriate (although public comments are preferred). This Working Group last call will end on Monday, June 2, 2003 at 12:00 EST. One pointer for the document is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.t= xt --Matt Zekauskas & Merike Kaeo =20 _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org=20 https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm ------_=_NextPart_001_01C39252.7C43E8AA Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable IPPM registry status

Dear Allison,

In the IPPM WG, = I am in charge of a 'IPPM Metrics Registry' draft named = draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt.

This registry = was initially requested by the RMON WG to provide an 'IPPM Metrics = Registry' usable by any MIBs. The WG last call of the = draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt endded the 2 of June, 3 months = ago.

I am puzzled = about the status of the document which I still do not know. So I would = be grateful if you could help me by telling me:

        - What is the current status of the draft = ?
        - As the document = draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt expires in October 2003, do I = have to post a version 05 in order to (only) update the date of the = document and keep it alive until the answer on its status is clearly = given?

I suppose there = might have been a bug in the processing, or there is something that I = missed.
Anyway, your = lights are welcome.

Very Best = Regards
Emile

-----Message = d'origine-----
De : Matthew J Zekauskas [mailto:matt@internet2.edu]
Envoye : vendredi 16 mai 2003 = 15:24
A : ippm@ietf.org
Cc : Matt Zekauskas; Merike = Kaeo
Objet : [ippm] Working Group = Last Call:
draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt


The latest draft of "IPPM = Metrics Registry" has all the fixes
and changes suggested on this = list, at previous IETF meetings,
and from our MIB advisor.

The co-chairs propose a Working = Group last-call for this document,
draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt.

Please comment on whether or not = you feel that this Internet-Draft
should be given to the Area = Directors and the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard = RFC.

Submit your comments to the IPPM = mailing list or to the
chairs or I-D authors as you = feel appropriate (although public
comments are preferred).  = This Working Group last call will end
on Monday, June 2, 2003 at 12:00 = EST.

One pointer for the document = is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-r= egistry-04.txt

--Matt Zekauskas & Merike = Kaeo

 
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C39252.7C43E8AA-- _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Oct 14 20:17:48 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA11091 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9ZLy-0006UK-0m for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:17:26 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9F0HP7A024936 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:17:25 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9ZLx-0006U7-RJ for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:17:25 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA11066 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9ZLv-00043J-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:17:23 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9ZLv-00043F-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:17:23 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9ZLY-0006Rz-OF; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:17:00 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A9OjO-00041D-2l for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:56:54 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA07252; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9OjL-00025H-00; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:56:51 -0400 Received: from p-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com ([195.101.245.15]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1A9OjK-00025C-00; Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:56:51 -0400 Received: from lanmhs50.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.21.52]) by parsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6747); Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:55:47 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C39252.7C43E8AA" Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:55:46 +0200 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: IPPM registry status Thread-Index: AcOSUnmzjkQUFXc3R1q6SQQRfDPjyg== From: "STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN" To: "mankin@psg.com" <'mankin@psg.com'.cnri.reston.va.us> Cc: "jon.peterson@neustar.biz" <'jon.peterson@neustar.biz'.cnri.reston.va.us>, "matt@internet2.edu" <'matt@internet2.edu'.cnri.reston.va.us>, "kaeo@merike.com" <'kaeo@merike.com'.cnri.reston.va.us>, "Andy Bierman" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2003 12:55:47.0813 (UTC) FILETIME=[7CF85950:01C39252] Subject: [ippm] IPPM registry status Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C39252.7C43E8AA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Allison, In the IPPM WG, I am in charge of a 'IPPM Metrics Registry' draft named = draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt.=20 This registry was initially requested by the RMON WG to provide an 'IPPM = Metrics Registry' usable by any MIBs. The WG last call of the = draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt endded the 2 of June, 3 months = ago. I am puzzled about the status of the document which I still do not know. = So I would be grateful if you could help me by telling me: - What is the current status of the draft ?=20 - As the document draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt expires in = October 2003, do I have to post a version 05 in order to (only) update = the date of the document and keep it alive until the answer on its = status is clearly given? I suppose there might have been a bug in the processing, or there is = something that I missed. Anyway, your lights are welcome. Very Best Regards Emile -----Message d'origine----- De : Matthew J Zekauskas [mailto:matt@internet2.edu] Envoye : vendredi 16 mai 2003 15:24 A : ippm@ietf.org Cc : Matt Zekauskas; Merike Kaeo Objet : [ippm] Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt The latest draft of "IPPM Metrics Registry" has all the fixes and changes suggested on this list, at previous IETF meetings, and from our MIB advisor. The co-chairs propose a Working Group last-call for this document, draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt. Please comment on whether or not you feel that this Internet-Draft should be given to the Area Directors and the IESG for consideration as = a Proposed Standard RFC. Submit your comments to the IPPM mailing list or to the chairs or I-D authors as you feel appropriate (although public comments are preferred). This Working Group last call will end on Monday, June 2, 2003 at 12:00 EST. One pointer for the document is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.t= xt --Matt Zekauskas & Merike Kaeo =20 _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org=20 https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm ------_=_NextPart_001_01C39252.7C43E8AA Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable IPPM registry status

Dear Allison,

In the IPPM WG, = I am in charge of a 'IPPM Metrics Registry' draft named = draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt.

This registry = was initially requested by the RMON WG to provide an 'IPPM Metrics = Registry' usable by any MIBs. The WG last call of the = draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt endded the 2 of June, 3 months = ago.

I am puzzled = about the status of the document which I still do not know. So I would = be grateful if you could help me by telling me:

        - What is the current status of the draft = ?
        - As the document = draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt expires in October 2003, do I = have to post a version 05 in order to (only) update the date of the = document and keep it alive until the answer on its status is clearly = given?

I suppose there = might have been a bug in the processing, or there is something that I = missed.
Anyway, your = lights are welcome.

Very Best = Regards
Emile

-----Message = d'origine-----
De : Matthew J Zekauskas [mailto:matt@internet2.edu]
Envoye : vendredi 16 mai 2003 = 15:24
A : ippm@ietf.org
Cc : Matt Zekauskas; Merike = Kaeo
Objet : [ippm] Working Group = Last Call:
draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt


The latest draft of "IPPM = Metrics Registry" has all the fixes
and changes suggested on this = list, at previous IETF meetings,
and from our MIB advisor.

The co-chairs propose a Working = Group last-call for this document,
draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-04.txt.

Please comment on whether or not = you feel that this Internet-Draft
should be given to the Area = Directors and the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard = RFC.

Submit your comments to the IPPM = mailing list or to the
chairs or I-D authors as you = feel appropriate (although public
comments are preferred).  = This Working Group last call will end
on Monday, June 2, 2003 at 12:00 = EST.

One pointer for the document = is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-r= egistry-04.txt

--Matt Zekauskas & Merike = Kaeo

 
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C39252.7C43E8AA-- _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Mon Oct 27 09:16:42 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA14268 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE8A6-0005pE-KV; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:16:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE89W-0005mb-Rj for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:15:26 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA13972; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:15:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200310271415.JAA13972@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: ippm@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:15:14 -0500 Subject: [ippm] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-mib-04.txt Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPPM reporting MIB Author(s) : E. Stephan, J. Jewitt Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-mib-04.txt Pages : 78 Date : 2003-10-24 This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB) designed for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP-based internets. In particular, this MIB specifies the objects used for managing the results of the IPPM metrics measures, for pushing alarms, and for reporting the measures results. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-mib-04.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPPM reporting MIB Author(s) : E. Stephan, J. Jewitt Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-mib-04.txt Pages : 78 Date : 2003-10-24 This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB) designed for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP-based internets. In particular, this MIB specifies the objects used for managing the results of the IPPM metrics measures, for pushing alarms, and for reporting the measures results. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-mib-04.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2003-10-24160613.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-mib-04.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-mib-04.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2003-10-24160613.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Mon Oct 27 09:36:32 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA16066 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:36:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE8TR-0000Ij-Ui; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:36:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE8T0-0000Ez-01 for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:34 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA15987 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE8Sx-0005pd-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:32 -0500 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE8Sx-0005pQ-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDE2112755; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from BMW (unknown [207.75.164.22]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B8911274E; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:22 -0500 From: Matthew J Zekauskas To: ippm@ietf.org Cc: Matt Zekauskas , Merike Kaeo , Henk Uijterwaal , Allison Mankin Message-ID: <248015257.1067247322@localhost> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by mail.internet2.edu virus scanner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ippm] New ippm co-chair: Henk Uijterwaal Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merike Kaeo has decided to step down as the co-chair of the IPPM working group because of her increasing focus on the scurity area. Henk Uijterwaal has agreed to replace Merike as co-chair. Please welcome Henk! --Matt and Merike _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Oct 27 09:36:34 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA16091 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE8Te-0000LN-VJ for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:36:16 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9REaELm001315 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:36:14 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE8Te-0000L7-Ka for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:36:14 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA16036 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:36:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE8Tc-0005qW-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:36:12 -0500 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE8Tc-0005qT-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:36:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE8TR-0000Ij-Ui; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:36:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE8T0-0000Ez-01 for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:34 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA15987 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE8Sx-0005pd-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:32 -0500 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE8Sx-0005pQ-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDE2112755; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from BMW (unknown [207.75.164.22]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B8911274E; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:35:22 -0500 From: Matthew J Zekauskas To: ippm@ietf.org Cc: Matt Zekauskas , Merike Kaeo , Henk Uijterwaal , Allison Mankin Message-ID: <248015257.1067247322@localhost> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by mail.internet2.edu virus scanner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ippm] New ippm co-chair: Henk Uijterwaal Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merike Kaeo has decided to step down as the co-chair of the IPPM working group because of her increasing focus on the scurity area. Henk Uijterwaal has agreed to replace Merike as co-chair. Please welcome Henk! --Matt and Merike _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Mon Oct 27 10:43:25 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA20508 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE9WI-0007qK-Cf; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:43:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE9Vz-0007oY-SH for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:42:44 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA20435 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE9Vx-0006oO-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:42:41 -0500 Received: from p-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com ([195.101.245.16]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE9Vw-0006nk-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:42:40 -0500 Received: from lanmhs50.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.21.52]) by parsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6747); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:41:53 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE : [ippm] New ippm co-chair: Henk Uijterwaal Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:41:52 +0100 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [ippm] New ippm co-chair: Henk Uijterwaal Thread-Index: AcOcl7h+8YDZBMF7QZKHIqcb472BXgACQM+w From: "STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN" To: "Matthew J Zekauskas" , Cc: "Merike Kaeo" , "Henk Uijterwaal" , "Allison Mankin" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2003 15:41:53.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[D874CEA0:01C39CA0] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Contratulations Henk, Regards Emile -----Message d'origine----- De : Matthew J Zekauskas [mailto:matt@internet2.edu]=20 Envoy=E9 : lundi 27 octobre 2003 15:35 =C0 : ippm@ietf.org Cc : Matt Zekauskas; Merike Kaeo; Henk Uijterwaal; Allison Mankin Objet : [ippm] New ippm co-chair: Henk Uijterwaal Merike Kaeo has decided to step down as the co-chair of the IPPM working group because of her increasing focus on the scurity area. Henk Uijterwaal has agreed to replace Merike as = co-chair. Please welcome Henk! --Matt and Merike _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org=20 https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Oct 27 10:43:27 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA20524 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:43:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE9WP-0007tX-5W for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:43:09 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9RFh9Yh030343 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:43:09 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE9WP-0007tK-0U for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:43:09 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA20455 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE9WM-0006oy-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:43:06 -0500 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE9WM-0006ov-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:43:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE9WI-0007qK-Cf; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:43:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE9Vz-0007oY-SH for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:42:44 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA20435 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE9Vx-0006oO-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:42:41 -0500 Received: from p-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com ([195.101.245.16]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE9Vw-0006nk-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:42:40 -0500 Received: from lanmhs50.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.21.52]) by parsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6747); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:41:53 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE : [ippm] New ippm co-chair: Henk Uijterwaal Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:41:52 +0100 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [ippm] New ippm co-chair: Henk Uijterwaal Thread-Index: AcOcl7h+8YDZBMF7QZKHIqcb472BXgACQM+w From: "STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN" To: "Matthew J Zekauskas" , Cc: "Merike Kaeo" , "Henk Uijterwaal" , "Allison Mankin" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2003 15:41:53.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[D874CEA0:01C39CA0] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Contratulations Henk, Regards Emile -----Message d'origine----- De : Matthew J Zekauskas [mailto:matt@internet2.edu]=20 Envoy=E9 : lundi 27 octobre 2003 15:35 =C0 : ippm@ietf.org Cc : Matt Zekauskas; Merike Kaeo; Henk Uijterwaal; Allison Mankin Objet : [ippm] New ippm co-chair: Henk Uijterwaal Merike Kaeo has decided to step down as the co-chair of the IPPM working group because of her increasing focus on the scurity area. Henk Uijterwaal has agreed to replace Merike as = co-chair. Please welcome Henk! --Matt and Merike _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org=20 https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Mon Oct 27 11:05:29 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA22114 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE9ra-0001wC-2S; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:05:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE9rY-0001vx-7t for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:05:00 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA22031 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE9rV-0007CR-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:04:57 -0500 Received: from p-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com ([195.101.245.16]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE9rU-0007BB-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:04:57 -0500 Received: from lanmhs50.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.21.52]) by parsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6747); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:04:23 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:04:22 +0100 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: next meeting agenda Thread-Index: AcOcl7h+8YDZBMF7QZKHIqcb472BXgAB0b9Q From: "STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN" To: "Matthew J Zekauskas" , "Henk Uijterwaal" Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2003 16:04:23.0731 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD272830:01C39CA3] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [ippm] next meeting agenda Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Matt and Henk, I don't see any entry regarding the agenda of the next meeting. I would be glad to have 15-20 minutes to present the usage (without any = SNMP background) of the IPPM MIB proxy for sharing measure, for = controlling results exchange and for SLA monitoring. Best Regards Emile -----Message d'origine----- De : Matthew J Zekauskas [mailto:matt@internet2.edu]=20 Envoy=E9 : lundi 27 octobre 2003 15:35 =C0 : ippm@ietf.org Cc : Matt Zekauskas; Merike Kaeo; Henk Uijterwaal; Allison Mankin Objet : [ippm] New ippm co-chair: Henk Uijterwaal Merike Kaeo has decided to step down as the co-chair of the IPPM working group because of her increasing focus on the scurity area. Henk Uijterwaal has agreed to replace Merike as = co-chair. Please welcome Henk! --Matt and Merike _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org=20 https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Oct 27 11:05:32 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA22130 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:05:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE9rm-00021A-Q9 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:05:14 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9RG5Eew007755 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:05:14 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE9rl-0001yV-6i for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:05:14 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA22059 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE9ri-0007Cn-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:05:10 -0500 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE9rh-0007Ck-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:05:10 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE9ra-0001wC-2S; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:05:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AE9rY-0001vx-7t for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:05:00 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA22031 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE9rV-0007CR-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:04:57 -0500 Received: from p-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com ([195.101.245.16]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AE9rU-0007BB-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:04:57 -0500 Received: from lanmhs50.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.21.52]) by parsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6747); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:04:23 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:04:22 +0100 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: next meeting agenda Thread-Index: AcOcl7h+8YDZBMF7QZKHIqcb472BXgAB0b9Q From: "STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN" To: "Matthew J Zekauskas" , "Henk Uijterwaal" Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2003 16:04:23.0731 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD272830:01C39CA3] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [ippm] next meeting agenda Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Matt and Henk, I don't see any entry regarding the agenda of the next meeting. I would be glad to have 15-20 minutes to present the usage (without any = SNMP background) of the IPPM MIB proxy for sharing measure, for = controlling results exchange and for SLA monitoring. Best Regards Emile -----Message d'origine----- De : Matthew J Zekauskas [mailto:matt@internet2.edu]=20 Envoy=E9 : lundi 27 octobre 2003 15:35 =C0 : ippm@ietf.org Cc : Matt Zekauskas; Merike Kaeo; Henk Uijterwaal; Allison Mankin Objet : [ippm] New ippm co-chair: Henk Uijterwaal Merike Kaeo has decided to step down as the co-chair of the IPPM working group because of her increasing focus on the scurity area. Henk Uijterwaal has agreed to replace Merike as = co-chair. Please welcome Henk! --Matt and Merike _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org=20 https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Mon Oct 27 13:43:29 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA29514 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AECKT-0001k3-9F; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:43:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AECKE-0001jJ-Dy for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:42:46 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA29474 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:42:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AECKC-0001oe-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:42:44 -0500 Received: from postman.ripe.net ([193.0.0.199]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AECKB-0001oF-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:42:43 -0500 Received: by postman.ripe.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id B9ECE4ED66; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:42:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from birch.ripe.net (birch.ripe.net [193.0.1.96]) by postman.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E744ED66; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:42:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from cow.ripe.net (cow.ripe.net [193.0.1.239]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.10/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RIgBHl023780; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:42:11 +0100 Received: from localhost (henk@localhost) by cow.ripe.net (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9RIgBm4015335; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:42:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: cow.ripe.net: henk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:42:11 +0100 (CET) From: "Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)" To: STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN Cc: Matthew J Zekauskas , ippm@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-RIPE-Spam-Status: N 0.391893 X-RIPE-Signature: de4c50594a1be0446577a7f8acb08db6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Subject: [ippm] Re: next meeting agenda Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Dear Emile, > I don't see any entry regarding the agenda of the next meeting. Correct, we only just (30 mins) ago decided to ask for a slot. The MIB will be one of the topics. Henk > I would > be glad to have 15-20 minutes to present the usage (without any SNMP > background) of the IPPM MIB proxy for sharing measure, for controlling > results exchange and for SLA monitoring. > > Best Regards > Emile > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Matthew J Zekauskas [mailto:matt@internet2.edu] > Envoy=E9 : lundi 27 octobre 2003 15:35 > =C0 : ippm@ietf.org > Cc : Matt Zekauskas; Merike Kaeo; Henk Uijterwaal; Allison Mankin > Objet : [ippm] New ippm co-chair: Henk Uijterwaal > > > Merike Kaeo has decided to step down as the co-chair of > the IPPM working group because of her increasing focus > on the scurity area. Henk Uijterwaal has agreed to replace Merike as co-= chair. Please welcome Henk! > > --Matt and Merike > > > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal@ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre WWW: http://www.ripe.net/home/h= enk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- That problem that we weren't having yesterday, is it better? (Big ISP NOC) _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Oct 27 13:43:30 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA29529 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:43:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AECKd-0001nA-5e for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:43:11 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9RIhBD2006882 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:43:11 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AECKd-0001mv-0g for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:43:11 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA29490 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AECKa-0001p1-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:43:08 -0500 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AECKa-0001oy-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:43:08 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AECKT-0001k3-9F; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:43:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AECKE-0001jJ-Dy for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:42:46 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA29474 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:42:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AECKC-0001oe-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:42:44 -0500 Received: from postman.ripe.net ([193.0.0.199]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AECKB-0001oF-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:42:43 -0500 Received: by postman.ripe.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id B9ECE4ED66; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:42:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from birch.ripe.net (birch.ripe.net [193.0.1.96]) by postman.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E744ED66; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:42:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from cow.ripe.net (cow.ripe.net [193.0.1.239]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.10/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9RIgBHl023780; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:42:11 +0100 Received: from localhost (henk@localhost) by cow.ripe.net (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h9RIgBm4015335; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:42:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: cow.ripe.net: henk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:42:11 +0100 (CET) From: "Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)" To: STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN Cc: Matthew J Zekauskas , ippm@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-RIPE-Spam-Status: N 0.391893 X-RIPE-Signature: de4c50594a1be0446577a7f8acb08db6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Subject: [ippm] Re: next meeting agenda Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Dear Emile, > I don't see any entry regarding the agenda of the next meeting. Correct, we only just (30 mins) ago decided to ask for a slot. The MIB will be one of the topics. Henk > I would > be glad to have 15-20 minutes to present the usage (without any SNMP > background) of the IPPM MIB proxy for sharing measure, for controlling > results exchange and for SLA monitoring. > > Best Regards > Emile > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Matthew J Zekauskas [mailto:matt@internet2.edu] > Envoy=E9 : lundi 27 octobre 2003 15:35 > =C0 : ippm@ietf.org > Cc : Matt Zekauskas; Merike Kaeo; Henk Uijterwaal; Allison Mankin > Objet : [ippm] New ippm co-chair: Henk Uijterwaal > > > Merike Kaeo has decided to step down as the co-chair of > the IPPM working group because of her increasing focus > on the scurity area. Henk Uijterwaal has agreed to replace Merike as co-= chair. Please welcome Henk! > > --Matt and Merike > > > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal@ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre WWW: http://www.ripe.net/home/h= enk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- That problem that we weren't having yesterday, is it better? (Big ISP NOC) _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Mon Oct 27 16:58:46 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA17196 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:58:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AEFNB-000636-VW; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:58:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AEFMO-0005yx-6S for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:57:12 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA16943; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:56:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200310272156.QAA16943@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: ippm@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:56:59 -0500 Subject: [ippm] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-07.txt Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : A One-way Active Measurement Protocol (OWAMP) Author(s) : S. Shalunov, B. Teitelbaum Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-07.txt Pages : 38 Date : 2003-10-27 With growing availability of good time sources to network nodes, it becomes increasingly possible to measure one-way IP performance metrics with high precision. To do so in an interoperable manner, a common protocol for such measurements is required. The One-Way Active Measurement Protocol (OWAMP) can measure one-way delay, as well as other unidirectional characteristics, such as one-way loss. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-07.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : A One-way Active Measurement Protocol (OWAMP) Author(s) : S. Shalunov, B. Teitelbaum Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-07.txt Pages : 38 Date : 2003-10-27 With growing availability of good time sources to network nodes, it becomes increasingly possible to measure one-way IP performance metrics with high precision. To do so in an interoperable manner, a common protocol for such measurements is required. The One-Way Active Measurement Protocol (OWAMP) can measure one-way delay, as well as other unidirectional characteristics, such as one-way loss. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-07.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2003-10-27171634.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-07.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-07.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2003-10-27171634.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Thu Oct 30 19:47:51 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA22725 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AFNRN-0000zb-03; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:47:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AFNQa-0000vk-96 for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:46:12 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA22660 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AFNQY-0005hi-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:46:10 -0500 Received: from goku.engr.colostate.edu ([129.82.224.16]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AFNQX-0005he-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:46:10 -0500 Received: from webmail.colostate.edu (csunts4.acns.colostate.edu [129.82.100.135]) by goku.engr.colostate.edu (8.12.8/8.12.0.Beta7) with ESMTP id h9V0k65J002814; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:46:06 -0700 (MST) X-WebMail-UserID: nischal@mail.engr.colostate.edu Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:46:05 -0700 From: Nischal M Piratla To: ippm@ietf.org Cc: Anura.Jayasumana@colostate.edu X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002247, 00002264 Message-ID: <3FC4A967@webmail.colostate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Infinite Mobile Delivery (Hydra) SMTP v3.62.01 X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ippm] New Reorder Density draft. Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear ippm members, We enhanced RD calculation to obtain two other density functions namely, Late-packet Density (LD) and Early-packet Density (ED). We believe that these changes allow us to characterize packet reordering more comprehensively and also address the problem of orthogonality with respect to loss and duplication. Since we missed the deadline, we have posted the new draft on our website. http://www.engr.colostate.edu/ece/Research/cnrl/draft-jayasumana-reorder-density-02.txt We hope to discuss these changes at ippm meeting. We look forward to your feedback on how best the concepts proposed in the draft can be used towards achieving ippm goals in the area of metrics for packet reordering. - Nischal Piratla **************************************************** Research Assistant Computer Networking Research Laboratory (CNRL) C203,Dept. of Electrical & Computer Eng. Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Voice: 970-491-7974 Fax: 970-491-2249 http://www.engr.colostate.edu/ece/Research/cnrl http://lamar.colostate.edu/~nischal **************************************************** _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Oct 30 19:47:52 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA22740 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AFNRr-00013b-9G for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:47:31 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9V0lVSr004059 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:47:31 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AFNRr-00013O-2K for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:47:31 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA22705 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AFNRp-0005in-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:47:29 -0500 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AFNRo-0005ij-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:47:28 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AFNRN-0000zb-03; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:47:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AFNQa-0000vk-96 for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:46:12 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA22660 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AFNQY-0005hi-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:46:10 -0500 Received: from goku.engr.colostate.edu ([129.82.224.16]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AFNQX-0005he-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:46:10 -0500 Received: from webmail.colostate.edu (csunts4.acns.colostate.edu [129.82.100.135]) by goku.engr.colostate.edu (8.12.8/8.12.0.Beta7) with ESMTP id h9V0k65J002814; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:46:06 -0700 (MST) X-WebMail-UserID: nischal@mail.engr.colostate.edu Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:46:05 -0700 From: Nischal M Piratla To: ippm@ietf.org Cc: Anura.Jayasumana@colostate.edu X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002247, 00002264 Message-ID: <3FC4A967@webmail.colostate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Infinite Mobile Delivery (Hydra) SMTP v3.62.01 X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ippm] New Reorder Density draft. Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear ippm members, We enhanced RD calculation to obtain two other density functions namely, Late-packet Density (LD) and Early-packet Density (ED). We believe that these changes allow us to characterize packet reordering more comprehensively and also address the problem of orthogonality with respect to loss and duplication. Since we missed the deadline, we have posted the new draft on our website. http://www.engr.colostate.edu/ece/Research/cnrl/draft-jayasumana-reorder-density-02.txt We hope to discuss these changes at ippm meeting. We look forward to your feedback on how best the concepts proposed in the draft can be used towards achieving ippm goals in the area of metrics for packet reordering. - Nischal Piratla **************************************************** Research Assistant Computer Networking Research Laboratory (CNRL) C203,Dept. of Electrical & Computer Eng. Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Voice: 970-491-7974 Fax: 970-491-2249 http://www.engr.colostate.edu/ece/Research/cnrl http://lamar.colostate.edu/~nischal **************************************************** _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm