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This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : A One-way Active Measurement Protocol (OWAMP) Author(s) : S. Shalunov, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-08.txt Pages : 38 Date : 2004-5-4 With growing availability of good time sources to network nodes, it becomes increasingly possible to measure one-way IP performance metrics with high precision. To do so in an interoperable manner, a common protocol for such measurements is required. The One-Way Active Measurement Protocol (OWAMP) can measure one-way delay, as well as other unidirectional characteristics, such as one-way loss. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-08.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. 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While previously it was not specified, it now allows to measure the decrement of TTL as follows: * The sender SHOULD set TTL of OWAMP-Test packets to 255 (the maximum value); the only reason not to set it to 255 is inability to change the value because of limitations of the socket interface that the implementation uses. * The receiver SHOULD record the value of the TTL field in OWAMP-Test packets it receives; the only reason not to record it is inability to access the field value due to socket interface limitations (if a receiver cannot record the actual value, it MUST record 255---a value that is otherwise impossible in a received packet). * The session results, when transmitted, now include TTL for each packet. The uses of this technique remain unspecified in the document, but include correlating delay changes to routing changes. ------------------------------------------------------------ One change remains pending for the specification document: free-text error messages in addition to error codes, as suggested by Al Morton and others in the past. -- Stanislav Shalunov http://www.internet2.edu/~shalunov/ This message is designed to be viewed at 600dpi. _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu May 6 14:03:53 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (iesg.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA08055 for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 14:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BLn2G-0003o8-PI for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 06 May 2004 13:51:52 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i46HpqXx014631 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 6 May 2004 13:51:52 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BLmkx-0003JU-R8 for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 06 May 2004 13:33:59 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA05740 for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 13:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BLmkv-00029C-NG for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 06 May 2004 13:33:57 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BLmjm-0001LD-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 06 May 2004 13:32:47 -0400 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BLmig-0000jf-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 06 May 2004 13:31:38 -0400 Received: from optimus22.ietf.org ([132.151.6.22] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BLmih-0002vz-FY for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 06 May 2004 13:31:39 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BLmXq-0002C6-AG; Thu, 06 May 2004 13:20:26 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BLlv5-0001dF-Gx for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 06 May 2004 12:40:23 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA28369 for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 12:40:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BLlv3-000126-U3 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 06 May 2004 12:40:22 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BLlrv-0007li-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 06 May 2004 12:37:08 -0400 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BLloJ-0006il-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 06 May 2004 12:33:24 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B685037E2 for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 12:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basie.internet2.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04708-07 for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 12:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A63137C8 for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 12:33:21 -0400 (EDT) To: ippm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ippm] draft-ietf-ippm-owdp-08.txt References: <200405061527.LAA20089@ietf.org> From: stanislav shalunov Date: 06 May 2004 12:33:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200405061527.LAA20089@ietf.org> Message-ID: <86smedtt0t.fsf@abel.internet2.edu> Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by mail.internet2.edu virus scanner Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 To make comparison with the old version easier: The new version of the draft incorporates a change in treatment of the TTL field. While previously it was not specified, it now allows to measure the decrement of TTL as follows: * The sender SHOULD set TTL of OWAMP-Test packets to 255 (the maximum value); the only reason not to set it to 255 is inability to change the value because of limitations of the socket interface that the implementation uses. * The receiver SHOULD record the value of the TTL field in OWAMP-Test packets it receives; the only reason not to record it is inability to access the field value due to socket interface limitations (if a receiver cannot record the actual value, it MUST record 255---a value that is otherwise impossible in a received packet). * The session results, when transmitted, now include TTL for each packet. The uses of this technique remain unspecified in the document, but include correlating delay changes to routing changes. ------------------------------------------------------------ One change remains pending for the specification document: free-text error messages in addition to error codes, as suggested by Al Morton and others in the past. -- Stanislav Shalunov http://www.internet2.edu/~shalunov/ This message is designed to be viewed at 600dpi. _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Fri May 14 13:16:03 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (iesg.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA06023 for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 13:16:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BOg7J-0003oI-AZ; Fri, 14 May 2004 13:05:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BOeJK-0004ic-8i for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 11:09:18 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA27025 for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 11:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BOeJH-0001Ge-GB for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 11:09:15 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BOeIV-0000lm-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 11:08:27 -0400 Received: from p-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com ([195.101.245.15]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BOeHW-0000Go-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 11:07:26 -0400 Received: from lanmhs50.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.21.52]) by parsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 14 May 2004 17:06:58 +0200 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:06:16 +0200 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: point 8 of OPS-AD evaluation of draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-05.txt Thread-Index: AcQqeME/0U1E6TTGRIWSCsPM9Py/XgPSggHQ From: "STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN" To: Cc: "Andy Bierman" , "Randy Presuhn (E-mail)" , "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" , "Allison Mankin" , "Matthew J Zekauskas" , "Henk Uijterwaal" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2004 15:06:58.0026 (UTC) FILETIME=[19F84CA0:01C439C5] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [ippm] point 8 of OPS-AD evaluation of draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-05.txt Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all Bert proposes that IANA will assign the ID of futur metrics . I aggree that this framework looks simpler that the one I propose. Is there any comment regarding the acceptation of this modification ? Regards Emile ---------------------- point 8 --------------------------------------------- >=20 > 8. I am not sure what section 6.1 is. > If I understand the word "improbable" correctly, then it means that > this does not yet exist and will probably never exists. So=20 > it is an=20 > example of how new metrics would be added (as per the idea of this > internet-draft). I think that that method is wrong, because > =20 > - it will move the assignments over many documents,=20 > - therefor it will be more difficult to ensure that there are no > name clashes/conflicts and that assignments are unique > - for people who want to use metrics it will be difficult to find > them. >=20 > So I would make it a single IANA maintained MIB module in which the > IANA can add new assignments.=20 > If you all do agree, then of course the writeup needs to change. >=20 > Each document that creates new Metrics would have an IANA=20 > considerations > secrion in which it would request to assign the new metrics. For=20 > each metric, that document would have (in IANA Considerations sect) > a statement aka: >=20 > IANA has registed the following Metric in the=20 > IANA-IPPM-METRICS-MIB: >=20 > ietfSomeNewMetricName OBJECT-IDENTITY > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION "The identifier for the=20 > Type-P-Some-New_Metric-Name > metric." > REFERENCE "RFCxxxx, section n." -- RFC-Editor=20 > fills in xxxx > ::=3D { ietf nn } -- IANA assigns nn >=20 _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri May 14 13:29:33 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (www.iesg.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA07083 for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 13:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BOgN9-0007Tf-Ve for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 13:21:24 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i4EHLNjZ028743 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 13:21:23 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BOgJI-0006Tj-KH for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 13:17:24 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA06192 for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 13:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BOgJG-0007Rk-Fr for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 13:17:22 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BOgII-0006wa-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 13:16:23 -0400 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BOgHW-0006Rx-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 13:15:34 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BOg7J-0003oI-AZ; Fri, 14 May 2004 13:05:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BOeJK-0004ic-8i for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 11:09:18 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA27025 for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 11:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BOeJH-0001Ge-GB for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 11:09:15 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BOeIV-0000lm-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 11:08:27 -0400 Received: from p-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com ([195.101.245.15]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BOeHW-0000Go-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 11:07:26 -0400 Received: from lanmhs50.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.21.52]) by parsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 14 May 2004 17:06:58 +0200 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:06:16 +0200 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: point 8 of OPS-AD evaluation of draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-05.txt Thread-Index: AcQqeME/0U1E6TTGRIWSCsPM9Py/XgPSggHQ From: "STEPHAN Emile FTRD/DAC/LAN" To: Cc: "Andy Bierman" , "Randy Presuhn (E-mail)" , "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" , "Allison Mankin" , "Matthew J Zekauskas" , "Henk Uijterwaal" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2004 15:06:58.0026 (UTC) FILETIME=[19F84CA0:01C439C5] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [ippm] point 8 of OPS-AD evaluation of draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-05.txt Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all Bert proposes that IANA will assign the ID of futur metrics . I aggree that this framework looks simpler that the one I propose. Is there any comment regarding the acceptation of this modification ? Regards Emile ---------------------- point 8 --------------------------------------------- >=20 > 8. I am not sure what section 6.1 is. > If I understand the word "improbable" correctly, then it means that > this does not yet exist and will probably never exists. So=20 > it is an=20 > example of how new metrics would be added (as per the idea of this > internet-draft). I think that that method is wrong, because > =20 > - it will move the assignments over many documents,=20 > - therefor it will be more difficult to ensure that there are no > name clashes/conflicts and that assignments are unique > - for people who want to use metrics it will be difficult to find > them. >=20 > So I would make it a single IANA maintained MIB module in which the > IANA can add new assignments.=20 > If you all do agree, then of course the writeup needs to change. >=20 > Each document that creates new Metrics would have an IANA=20 > considerations > secrion in which it would request to assign the new metrics. For=20 > each metric, that document would have (in IANA Considerations sect) > a statement aka: >=20 > IANA has registed the following Metric in the=20 > IANA-IPPM-METRICS-MIB: >=20 > ietfSomeNewMetricName OBJECT-IDENTITY > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION "The identifier for the=20 > Type-P-Some-New_Metric-Name > metric." > REFERENCE "RFCxxxx, section n." -- RFC-Editor=20 > fills in xxxx > ::=3D { ietf nn } -- IANA assigns nn >=20 _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Sat May 15 19:06:58 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (iesg.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA17382 for ; Sat, 15 May 2004 19:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BP8CG-0006Cg-Pa; Sat, 15 May 2004 19:04:00 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BP8Ar-00064j-2s for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 15 May 2004 19:02:33 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA16889 for ; Sat, 15 May 2004 19:02:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Timothy.Soetens@alcatel.be Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BP8An-0000NM-QI for ippm@ietf.org; Sat, 15 May 2004 19:02:29 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BP8A5-0007lq-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Sat, 15 May 2004 19:01:45 -0400 Received: from smail.alcatel.fr ([62.23.212.165]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BP89M-0007L7-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Sat, 15 May 2004 19:01:00 -0400 Received: from bemail01.netfr.alcatel.fr (bemail01.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.251.32]) by smail.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/NETFR) with ESMTP id i4FN0q0P001913 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 01:00:54 +0200 To: ippm@ietf.org Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 01:00:50 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BEMAIL01/BE/ALCATEL(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 05/16/2004 01:00:53 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Alcanet-MTA-scanned-and-authorized: yes X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Subject: [ippm] Timothy SOETENS/BE/ALCATEL is out of the office. 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For urgent matters, please contact Luc Ongena _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Mon May 17 16:06:35 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA21089 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 16:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BPo7d-0008EL-I6; Mon, 17 May 2004 15:50:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BPmA7-0001Dc-5k for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 13:44:27 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA07952 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 13:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BPmA5-0001Os-0d for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 13:44:25 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BPm95-00013N-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 13:43:24 -0400 Received: from frontend-1.cgpmail.ua.pt ([193.136.80.80]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BPm8J-0000WJ-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 13:42:35 -0400 X-UA-Spam: No X-UA-Spam-Status: hits=-9.9 required=5.0 X-UA-Spam-Report: BAYES_00 USER_IN_WHITELIST Received: from [193.136.92.53] (HELO av.it.pt) by frontend-1.cgpmail.ua.pt (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 21462981; Mon, 17 May 2004 18:41:46 +0100 Received: from [193.136.93.141] (account ) by av.it.pt (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.0.5) with HTTP id 1257822; Mon, 17 May 2004 18:41:45 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E9lder?= Veiga e Teresa Pinho" To: ippm@ietf.org, shalunov@internet2.edu, ben@internet2.edu, ankarp@yahoo.com, boote@internet2.edu, matt@internet2.edu Cc: jlo@det.ua.pt, rv@det.ua.pt X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.4.0.5 Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:41:45 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id NAA07953 Subject: [ippm] OWAMP implementations Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, We are a group of researchers at the Institute of=20 Telecommunications / University of Aveiro, involved in the=20 area of Traffic Measurements. We have an implementation of OWAMP (version 8, May=20 2004)almost ready. Our aim now is to carry out conformance=20 tests (as extensive as possible). Thus we are looking for=20 other implementations of the OWAMP. Do you know of any other implementations? Best regards. Teresa Pinho H=E9lder Veiga Jos=E9 Luis Oliveira Rui Valadas _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Mon May 17 16:08:19 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA21309 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 16:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BPo7e-0008EV-20; Mon, 17 May 2004 15:50:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BPn2A-0002kj-1Y for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:40:18 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA13100 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BPn27-00064C-A6 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:40:15 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BPn1E-0005gq-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:39:21 -0400 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BPn01-00050A-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:38:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C6C385A; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basie.internet2.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27750-10; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B273430; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:38:05 -0400 (EDT) To: =?koi8-r?b?SOlsZGVyIFZlaWdhIGUg?= =?koi8-r?b?VGVyZXNhIFBpbmhv?= Cc: ippm@ietf.org, ben@internet2.edu, ankarp@yahoo.com, boote@internet2.edu, matt@internet2.edu, jlo@det.ua.pt, rv@det.ua.pt References: From: stanislav shalunov Date: 17 May 2004 14:38:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <86vfiunbl9.fsf@abel.internet2.edu> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r X-Virus-Scanned: by mail.internet2.edu virus scanner X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id OAA13101 Subject: [ippm] Re: OWAMP implementations Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "H=E9lder Veiga e Teresa Pinho" writes: > We have an implementation of OWAMP (version 8, May 2004) almost ready. Wonderful. > Our aim now is to carry out conformance tests (as extensive as > possible). Thus we are looking for other implementations of the OWAMP. You could try interoperating with the implementation made available at http://e2epi.internet2.edu/owamp/ (It is our goal to have a reference implementation that uses all features of the protocol so that complete interoperability testing can be done.) --=20 Stanislav Shalunov http://www.internet2.edu/~shalunov/ This message is designed to be viewed at room temperature. _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon May 17 17:36:44 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (iesg.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA02494 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 17:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BPpRu-0001ln-FU for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 17:15:07 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i4HLF2iv006797 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 17:15:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BPoPK-0006Y0-65 for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 16:08:18 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA21299 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 16:08:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BPoPI-0007KJ-Gc for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 16:08:16 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BPoOK-0006xy-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 16:07:17 -0400 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BPoNB-0006HA-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 16:06:05 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BPo7d-0008EL-I6; Mon, 17 May 2004 15:50:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BPmA7-0001Dc-5k for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 13:44:27 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA07952 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 13:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BPmA5-0001Os-0d for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 13:44:25 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BPm95-00013N-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 13:43:24 -0400 Received: from frontend-1.cgpmail.ua.pt ([193.136.80.80]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BPm8J-0000WJ-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 13:42:35 -0400 X-UA-Spam: No X-UA-Spam-Status: hits=-9.9 required=5.0 X-UA-Spam-Report: BAYES_00 USER_IN_WHITELIST Received: from [193.136.92.53] (HELO av.it.pt) by frontend-1.cgpmail.ua.pt (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 21462981; Mon, 17 May 2004 18:41:46 +0100 Received: from [193.136.93.141] (account ) by av.it.pt (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.0.5) with HTTP id 1257822; Mon, 17 May 2004 18:41:45 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E9lder?= Veiga e Teresa Pinho" To: ippm@ietf.org, shalunov@internet2.edu, ben@internet2.edu, ankarp@yahoo.com, boote@internet2.edu, matt@internet2.edu Cc: jlo@det.ua.pt, rv@det.ua.pt X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.4.0.5 Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:41:45 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id NAA07953 Subject: [ippm] OWAMP implementations Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, We are a group of researchers at the Institute of=20 Telecommunications / University of Aveiro, involved in the=20 area of Traffic Measurements. We have an implementation of OWAMP (version 8, May=20 2004)almost ready. Our aim now is to carry out conformance=20 tests (as extensive as possible). Thus we are looking for=20 other implementations of the OWAMP. Do you know of any other implementations? Best regards. Teresa Pinho H=E9lder Veiga Jos=E9 Luis Oliveira Rui Valadas _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon May 17 17:36:52 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (iesg.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA02511 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 17:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BPpRx-0001o1-10 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 17:15:07 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i4HLF4NZ006937 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 17:15:05 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BPoQM-0006vT-FM for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 16:09:22 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA21394 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 16:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BPoQK-0007g7-SJ for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 16:09:20 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BPoPS-0007Ln-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 16:08:28 -0400 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BPoOs-00071K-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 16:07:50 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BPo7e-0008EV-20; Mon, 17 May 2004 15:50:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BPn2A-0002kj-1Y for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:40:18 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA13100 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BPn27-00064C-A6 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:40:15 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BPn1E-0005gq-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:39:21 -0400 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BPn01-00050A-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:38:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C6C385A; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basie.internet2.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27750-10; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B273430; Mon, 17 May 2004 14:38:05 -0400 (EDT) To: =?koi8-r?b?SOlsZGVyIFZlaWdhIGUg?= =?koi8-r?b?VGVyZXNhIFBpbmhv?= Cc: ippm@ietf.org, ben@internet2.edu, ankarp@yahoo.com, boote@internet2.edu, matt@internet2.edu, jlo@det.ua.pt, rv@det.ua.pt References: From: stanislav shalunov Date: 17 May 2004 14:38:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <86vfiunbl9.fsf@abel.internet2.edu> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r X-Virus-Scanned: by mail.internet2.edu virus scanner Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id OAA13101 Subject: [ippm] Re: OWAMP implementations Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "H=E9lder Veiga e Teresa Pinho" writes: > We have an implementation of OWAMP (version 8, May 2004) almost ready. Wonderful. > Our aim now is to carry out conformance tests (as extensive as > possible). Thus we are looking for other implementations of the OWAMP. You could try interoperating with the implementation made available at http://e2epi.internet2.edu/owamp/ (It is our goal to have a reference implementation that uses all features of the protocol so that complete interoperability testing can be done.) --=20 Stanislav Shalunov http://www.internet2.edu/~shalunov/ This message is designed to be viewed at room temperature. _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Wed May 19 16:57:57 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (iesg.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA15354 for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 16:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQXLG-0002Q1-JE; Wed, 19 May 2004 16:07:06 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQUR9-0003jR-S9 for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 13:01:00 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA24054 for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 13:00:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BQUR7-0005jp-Ue for ippm@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 13:00:58 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BQUQC-0005ae-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 13:00:01 -0400 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BQUP1-0005Nn-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 12:58:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4920035D5; Wed, 19 May 2004 12:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basie.internet2.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26287-06; Wed, 19 May 2004 12:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from internet2.edu (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6245135C9; Wed, 19 May 2004 12:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40AB8DD9.3BD171B4@internet2.edu> Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:39:53 -0600 From: "Jeff W. Boote" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stanislav shalunov Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E9lder?= Veiga e Teresa Pinho , ippm@ietf.org, ben@internet2.edu, ankarp@yahoo.com, matt@internet2.edu, jlo@det.ua.pt, rv@det.ua.pt References: <86vfiunbl9.fsf@abel.internet2.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by mail.internet2.edu virus scanner X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ippm] Re: OWAMP implementations Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit stanislav shalunov wrote: > You could try interoperating with the implementation made available at > http://e2epi.internet2.edu/owamp/ > > (It is our goal to have a reference implementation that uses all > features of the protocol so that complete interoperability testing can > be done.) The http://e2epi.internet2.edu/owamp/ has not been updated to version 8 of the specification yet. Basically, it does not support any of the TTL functionality. (This includes the data format changes to the Fetch-Session response.) Also, the current version does not quite conform to the specification for partial sessions yet. (The "Session Packets Sent" portions of the "Stop-Sessions" message is currently always using the special value indicating that the number of packets sent could not be determined.) I believe these are the only areas of non-conformance at this time. I intend to address this over the next two weeks. jeff _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From ippm-admin@ietf.org Wed May 19 17:01:17 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (iesg.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA15870 for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:01:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQXLS-0002R5-0B; Wed, 19 May 2004 16:07:18 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQWz1-0004Nd-Gs for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 15:44:07 -0400 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA07676; Wed, 19 May 2004 15:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200405191944.PAA07676@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ippm@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:44:04 -0400 Subject: [ippm] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-06.txt Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPPM metrics registry Author(s) : E. Stephan Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-06.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2004-5-19 This memo defines a registry for IP Performance Metrics (IPPM). It assigns and registers an initial set of OBJECT IDENTITIES to currently defined metrics in the IETF. This memo also defines the rules for adding new IP Performance Metrics in the future, both those standardized inside and outside the IETF. IANA has been assigned to administer this new registry. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-06.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. 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Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2004-5-19153653.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-06.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-06.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2004-5-19153653.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed May 19 17:42:30 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (iesg.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA20851 for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQYe2-0000qY-HS for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:30:35 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i4JLUYHV003253 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:30:34 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQYBX-0005iW-51 for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:01:07 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA15801 for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BQYBV-0005xS-0B for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:01:05 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BQY9y-0005Zl-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 16:59:31 -0400 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BQY80-0005CI-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 16:57:28 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQXLG-0002Q1-JE; Wed, 19 May 2004 16:07:06 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQUR9-0003jR-S9 for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 13:01:00 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA24054 for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 13:00:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BQUR7-0005jp-Ue for ippm@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 13:00:58 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BQUQC-0005ae-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 13:00:01 -0400 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BQUP1-0005Nn-00 for ippm@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 12:58:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4920035D5; Wed, 19 May 2004 12:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basie.internet2.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26287-06; Wed, 19 May 2004 12:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from internet2.edu (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6245135C9; Wed, 19 May 2004 12:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40AB8DD9.3BD171B4@internet2.edu> Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:39:53 -0600 From: "Jeff W. Boote" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stanislav shalunov Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E9lder?= Veiga e Teresa Pinho , ippm@ietf.org, ben@internet2.edu, ankarp@yahoo.com, matt@internet2.edu, jlo@det.ua.pt, rv@det.ua.pt References: <86vfiunbl9.fsf@abel.internet2.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by mail.internet2.edu virus scanner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ippm] Re: OWAMP implementations Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit stanislav shalunov wrote: > You could try interoperating with the implementation made available at > http://e2epi.internet2.edu/owamp/ > > (It is our goal to have a reference implementation that uses all > features of the protocol so that complete interoperability testing can > be done.) The http://e2epi.internet2.edu/owamp/ has not been updated to version 8 of the specification yet. Basically, it does not support any of the TTL functionality. (This includes the data format changes to the Fetch-Session response.) Also, the current version does not quite conform to the specification for partial sessions yet. (The "Session Packets Sent" portions of the "Stop-Sessions" message is currently always using the special value indicating that the number of packets sent could not be determined.) I believe these are the only areas of non-conformance at this time. I intend to address this over the next two weeks. jeff _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed May 19 17:43:01 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (iesg.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA20972 for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQYeB-00012U-Cp for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:30:43 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i4JLUhbm003965 for ippm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:30:43 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQYDa-0006ZR-Mo for ippm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:03:14 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA16159 for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BQYDY-0006PR-HI for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:03:12 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BQYCR-0006Aw-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:02:04 -0400 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BQYBE-0005qb-00 for ippm-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:00:48 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQXLS-0002R5-0B; Wed, 19 May 2004 16:07:18 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BQWz1-0004Nd-Gs for ippm@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 15:44:07 -0400 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA07676; Wed, 19 May 2004 15:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200405191944.PAA07676@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ippm@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:44:04 -0400 Subject: [ippm] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-06.txt Sender: ippm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ippm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPPM metrics registry Author(s) : E. Stephan Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-06.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2004-5-19 This memo defines a registry for IP Performance Metrics (IPPM). It assigns and registers an initial set of OBJECT IDENTITIES to currently defined metrics in the IETF. This memo also defines the rules for adding new IP Performance Metrics in the future, both those standardized inside and outside the IETF. IANA has been assigned to administer this new registry. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-06.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-06.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-06.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2004-5-19153653.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-06.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ippm-metrics-registry-06.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2004-5-19153653.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm