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Subject: [ippm] TWAMP Session-Reflector port negotiation
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Is there any provision for the Control-Client to request that the
Session-Reflector send/receive test traffic on a specific port?

Looking at section 3.5 of the draft, it seems odd that a
Session-Sender can have one IP address and port number for sending
test packets and another IP address and port number for receiving test
packets.  That makes it seem like you could have two separate devices
(one for sending and one for receiving) playing a single
Session-Sender role?  Why not use the Receiver address and port in the
TWAMP Request-Session message to request that the Session-Reflector
listen for test packets and generate responses using that address and
port?  If the Session-Reflector is unable to use that IP address
and/or port then it can reject the session.  If the Receiver port is
set to zero then the Server sends back an Accept-Session message just
like the draft states today with the port that the Session-Reflector
will use.  If the Receiver address is not set then treat it just like
the draft states today.

Thoughts? Comments?

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Hi Walt,

Thanks for your questions, very good ones.
see below,
Al

At 03:56 PM 5/2/2007, Walt Steverson wrote:
>Is there any provision for the Control-Client to request that the
>Session-Reflector send/receive test traffic on a specific port?

The way our text reads now, it appears to me the answer is no.

However, the current TWAMP usage may be a change from OWAMP when
the Conf-Sender and Conf-Receiver are set to zero.  I read in OWAMP,
section 3.5:

         ...                        If Conf-Receiver is not set,
    Receiver Port is the UDP port OWAMP-Test to which packets are
    requested to be sent.

So, it appears that OWAMP has this ability. And if the Sender Port and
Receiver Ports are likely to be the same in common use of TWAMP,
then we're losing the opportunity to suggest the receiving port
at the Session-Reflector.

Of course, the requested port may already be in use, so we
need to see how to recover from that error:

  - "Accept" Field of the Accept Session message is set to 5 (reject
    due to temporary resource constraints)

  - "Accept" Field of the Accept Session message is set to <new value>
    meaning requested port unavailable, send TWAMP-test packets to
    the port in the Port field.

Need to think about this some more, discuss with co-authors...


>Looking at section 3.5 of the draft, it seems odd that a
>Session-Sender can have one IP address and port number for sending
>test packets and another IP address and port number for receiving test
>packets.  That makes it seem like you could have two separate devices
>(one for sending and one for receiving) playing a single
>Session-Sender role?  Why not use the Receiver address and port in the
>TWAMP Request-Session message to request that the Session-Reflector
>listen for test packets and generate responses using that address and
>port?  If the Session-Reflector is unable to use that IP address
>and/or port then it can reject the session.  If the Receiver port is
>set to zero then the Server sends back an Accept-Session message just
>like the draft states today with the port that the Session-Reflector
>will use.  If the Receiver address is not set then treat it just like
>the draft states today.
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Hello all of you,

Is there a good reference to the definition of the words: bandwidth, 
rate, capacity, speed?
In some way I want to put in a document a few things:
. the actual bit/s a user can sent of the link: Here Available 
Bandwidth, Bottleneck bandwidth but also bulk transfer capacity (tcp) 
come into thought. But what is the best word here?
. we have an interface speed, so something that is physically determined 
by a clock speed). Is that speed or rate or ???

Any help in finding defined terms can help me.

Thanks.


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Victor,

> Is there a good reference to the definition of the words: bandwidth, 
> rate, capacity, speed?
> In some way I want to put in a document a few things:
> . the actual bit/s a user can sent of the link: Here Available 
> Bandwidth, Bottleneck bandwidth but also bulk transfer capacity (tcp) 
> come into thought. But what is the best word here?
> . we have an interface speed, so something that is physically determined 
> by a clock speed). Is that speed or rate or ???
> 
> Any help in finding defined terms can help me.

Look at:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-bw-capacity-04.txt

(And please speak up if you see anything missing there).

Henk

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At 08:50 AM 5/8/2007, Victor Reijs (work) wrote:
>Hello all of you,
>
>Is there a good reference to the definition of the words: bandwidth, 
>rate, capacity, speed?

This draft
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-bw-capacity-04.txt

and its references should give you a start.
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On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 01:50:26PM +0100,
 Victor Reijs (work) <victor.reijs@heanet.ie> wrote 
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> Is there a good reference to the definition of the words: bandwidth,
> rate, capacity, speed?

"speed" should be banned because it is often used for talking about
the throughput per second ("bandwidth" or "capacity") as well as for
the travel time ("latency"), which are two very different things.

"bandwidth" has a poor etymology (it comes from the analog world and
is typically meaningless in the digital Internet) but, apart from
that, I regard it as acceptable.



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> You are right, of course, but (perhaps Henk can comment on this) I 
> believe that our charter is limited to IP. 

Yes, the IP in IPPM stands for IP ;-)

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It will be obvious, from this description of the valley of the Nile, The parentage and birth of Cleopatra.--Cleopatra's residence in reign solely for the gratification of their own sensual propensities and encroachments of other powers. He finally succeeded in establishing his
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the whole valley, and forms for a time an immense lake, extending in such a condition as to make it extremely dangerous and difficult of accession.--Cleopatra.--Physcon's brutal perfidity.--He marries his ancient city named Pelusium near the mouth of it. This was, of course,
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GPSI Announces Market Attack Into $1 Trillion Market!

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"That was when we decided to go out and get our first round of funding.
Consider these tips to avoid scheduling your next project for failure.
But, even if it remains, any advantage it gives to Novell will expire
with the company's agreement. While modeling software is useful, it will
not solve all design issues. "I'd like to put some file servers on the
network without paying Microsoft all that licensing money," he says.
The trouble is, when they told him about the lack of supplies and the
problems with desertions, Napoleon was prone to abuse them, sometimes
publicly. Project decisions are often made with equal parts
technological knowledge and organizational political acumen. With
hundreds of employees, the needs for routing and groups are constantly
changing, but tweaks to the system happen lightning fast via
NeoPhonetics remote network support. The author keeps using outside
statements to interpret the document. In the last year, we have moved
into the pure end-user enterprise: financial services, insurance, health
care. Napoleon took another three years, one exile, and a return before
he was finished for good. It is basically a time-line.
Making rational, informed technological choices is but half the project
success equation. There is also a general point. Activity diagram -
Models the overall control flow of the system.
His example provides a case study on the pitfalls of planning a large
project, making it an object lesson for the modern corporate world. We
actually have a database of three terabytes of third-party source that
we have created signatures for. Just like hard-wired technology,
organizations are connected system elements. Just like hard-wired
technology, organizations are connected system elements.
Stear ran a test implementation of Asterisk at the old facility and
liked what he saw. Carve up Russia between Sweden, Turkey, and a revived
Poland?
Still others seem due to willful misunderstandings by opponents of free
and open source software.
Deployment diagram - Provides a map of how the system will look once it
is installed.
The trouble is, when they told him about the lack of supplies and the
problems with desertions, Napoleon was prone to abuse them, sometimes
publicly. So we went back to the original copyright holder and paid
them, brokered a new license, and rearchitected the software.
Also, the army's size meant that provisioning was difficult.
The process is called modeling.
We'd like to announce our sponsorship of the project. "The ability to
customize it to our needs and wants really is what convinced us," he
says.
"We really just want to throw as wide a net over people as possible.
Not knowing what he wanted to do, he was, not unexpectedly, unable to do
much of anything, or do what he did do effectively.
As an IT manager, it's your responsibility to help preserve
institutional resources as well as add organizational value with IT
projects.
Use case diagrams and use cases are not the same; use case diagrams can
serve as a map to use cases.
Random interpretations provided by email are not worth the paper on
which they are not written. There are two actors, Administrator and
User, and four actions, Add User, Delete User, Login, and Email User.
Many parts of the army were traditional enemies of other parts, or had
been fighting them recently.
For much of his life, this belief served him well, possibly because the
bravado that it produced constantly took his opponents by surprise.




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GPSI Announces Market Attack Into $1 Trillion Market!

Global Payment Solutions
Symbol: GPSI
Price: $0.03

GPSI announced its plans to address the huge influx of immigrant workers
into the US that need banking solutions that they otherwise would not
qualify for. This market is expected to represent over $1 Trillion
dollars to be managed by 2008. GPSI provides viable solutions to this
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The use of multiple layers will trap warm air while providing greater
ease of movement.
What is an Infrared Window? The Knoop hardness number indicates the
resistance to local penetration. Never give a frostbite or hypothermia
victim beverages containing caffeine or alcohol.
The most effective way of using IR windows is to, where possible,
prepare all components that are inspected so as they have the same
emissivity by using electrical tape, paint, etc. Upon further diagnosis
the repair tech asked me if I had been adding files to the camera. The
most important thing to remember regarding IR transmission rates is that
you must know what the transmission rate and wavelength are that your IR
window is operating in. At present, there is no way to correlate
enclosure temperatures to the integrity of the devices they contain. A
thermal imager with too much in its memory may not work at all.
Roof consists of a fully-adhered membrane installed directly over a
wooden deck. When the pixels of an FPA detector drift, their response to
the radiant energy emitted by an object changes. Camera repairs can be
like car repairs. If thickness stays the same, as the diameter increases
so does the fragility factor.
Note: The worst case scenario would be to get the emissivity and the
transmission totally wrong. During the previous two weeks, I had noticed
several malfunctions.
All are functions of the design and must meet all the parameters that
the thermographer requires before a holder is manufactured.
A simple way of viewing this is to calculate the force that would be
experienced on the surface of an electrical cabinet whilst undergoing an
arc flash explosion test.
, electrical tape, bar-b-q paint, etc.
In an effort to reduce labor costs, some have suggested scanning the
exterior of electrical enclosures and opening only those that exhibit a
discernible temperature rise.
A properly designed website can improve productivity and help increase
sales.
To utilize a thermal imager to detect potential condensation sites,
identify the dew point temperature for the room or areas that you are
inspecting.
I then connected the imager to my laptop and downloaded the stored
images to my disk drive.
Use your own body heat to help.
Each year falls in the workplace account for over one million injuries
and several hundred fatalities. Additional revenue may be generated
through participation in affiliate sales programs. Replacing parts is
easy. Infrared cameras are based on digital camera technology and
therefore require a direct-line-of-site to record an accurate image. In
an effort to reduce labor costs, some have suggested scanning the
exterior of electrical enclosures and opening only those that exhibit a
discernible temperature rise. These are currently the materials most
used as infrared window optics.
THEY CAN NOT GIVE YOU TOTAL PROTECTION FROM AN ARC FLASH EXPLOSION.
However, a high transmission rate is not the most important property of
an infrared window.
Electrical cabinets, etc. Some materials are, however, suitable for use
with both LW and SW cameras, i. Websites can provide new revenue
opportunities. Thermographers who use enclosure temperatures as
indicators of device integrity face two problems.
Such software is available only from the manufacturer of the camera that
created the file.
For building envelopes, chronic condensation on interior drywall
surfaces can cause unsightly staining by trapping dust or smoke
particulates in these areas. Ge performs as well as Zinc Selenide in
this circumstance and is a lot less expensive. A protective coating may
extend that time, but as to how much exactly there is no evidence to
even formulate a real guess.
By doing this I had unknowingly created new directories in the camera
which used up all available memory. Note: The worst case scenario would
be to get the emissivity and the transmission totally wrong. Symptoms of
hypothermia include uncontrollable shivering, slow speech, memory
lapses, frequent stumbling, drowsiness, and exhaustion. A window is used
to separate two environments of different pressure, temperature, etc.
Liners can take a full day to fully dry out so buy enough to get through
a typical workday. Depending upon imager model, the NUC process may be
an automatic feature of the imager or a manual function performed by the
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expression changes, but some scientists have assumed beneficial effects
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Alan Clark prepared an initial proposal for a
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I am not really sure what pagan or old religion spiritual path I
follow, as none really total fit my beliefs.  So I am not sure how I
would really sign a message.  Maybe the best is a good old Celtic
closing,

Aye yours;

roland

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<!At this rate, South Carolina is going to be a regular in the
fall Thursday night TV lineup. USC has agreed to play its home
game against Kentucky on Oct. 9 as part of ESPN's popular
Thursday night package, Gamecocks assistant head coach Skip
Holtz said Friday. An official announcement is expected by
Monday. The switch means USC now will play two Thursday night
games this season. Earlier this week, the school announced
that the Arkansas game in Little Rock had been moved to
Thursday, Nov. 6.

Kickoff for the Kentucky game is expected to be at 7:30 p.m.
at Williams-Brice Stadium. The game will coincide with ongoing
State Fair activities at the adjacent State Fairgrounds. When
ESPN officials approached USC about moving the Kentucky game to
Thursday, the Gamecocks were willing to do so because they have
an open date the weekend of Oct. 4, Holtz said. Plus, Holtz
added "this would be a Thursday night at our place, which
would be great."

In 2001, the Gamecocks defeated Mississippi State 16-14 in
Starkville on Thursday, Sept. 20, in the first football game
played after 9/11.


<!When I had my conservatory built last year, the builders had to go down
1.4 metres with the trench to hit something solid to build on. A
Readymix lorry delivered the base and 6 guys barrowed it into the back
garden.

My next door neighbour is having one built (different builder, and at
much lower cost for a slightly smaller conservatory). There was one guy
hand digging the trench - he started yesterday morning. Don't know how
far down he went, but there wasn't anything like as much earth in the
skip as when mine was dug - indeed, my builders had to get a second
skip because they filled the first one up in a day,

This morning, when I went out (about 8.30), they were just starting to
mix some concrete in a small mixer out on the front lawn to start
pouring the concrete into the trench. By the time I cam back (about 2
pm) there's a three foot high brick wall already built

My concerns are

a) did they dig deep enough
b) have they waited long enough before building the brick on the
concrete
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(He's away on business, and his wife is out all day at work, and I'm
guessing neither of them has much of a clue of the right way to go
about it, any more than I do really)
>

<!

I have checked the Default Time Zone setting for the 
default virtual server on SharePoint central 
administration as well as all the individual site 
settings. Every where it is configured to use GMT-06.00 - 
Central Time (US & Canada). However if anyone create or 
modify a document in SharePoint (any site) the time 
showing on SharePoint is different than the system time of 
the same server. Suppose if the current time on the server 
clock is 2.34 AM, then the modified document time on the 
SharePoint would be 1.34 AM. 

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Recent news releases have excited investors. Heavy trading pushed share
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PowerPoint are sometimes the very ones who rely on it the most.
The anti-impotence drug helped hamsters recover more quickly when their
sleep patterns were disrupted by bright light. Because the Chinese rely
on coal for most of the power generation, no matter how clean the
technology, the sheer amounts of pollutants released into the atmosphere
are colossal.
With its fine-tuned difficulty levels, Blazing Lazers is a shooting game
that anyone can enjoy.
However, the drug only worked when applied before an advance in the
light-dark cycle, equivalent to an east-bound flight. Players control
the extraordinary firepower of their Gunhed Star Fighter to take on the
Dark Squadron that has begun its invasion of Earth.
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their mast? One of the things you can also do within Outlook is print a
blank calendar. Currently the distribution is only available via torrent
but should be available on the mirrors soon.
There have been no objections to the mast, but it is expected the
council will refuse planning permission when they meet tomorrow.
TJ Max - Unsecured Wireless Believed To Have Caused Data Theft Can Dell
Get Back On Track? An OS transition creates more work than can be done.
More funding would help develop a hand-held device and investigate
whether the device is commercially viable. Something like that would be
very useful.
In pregnant women, excess vitamin A is also associated with birth
defects.
Audacity All-purpose audio editor lets you record, play, and edit
digital files. Tags: slideburner, powerpoint, openoffice. Morning for
the animals came six hours early, when they were illuminated with bright
lights.
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versions of these games entirely new experiences. There are other
companies that provide similar services. One of the victims comes from a
family with nasty secrets to hide. Small company, Have a cd that has all
drivers necessary to run both Xp and Vista included with that computer.
Many beauty products contain retinol - vitamin A - or "pro-retinol"
compounds from which the vitamin is derived, and all are said to fight
the signs of ageing.
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world-class capabilities.
Nowhere else have I seen this statistic, or heard it on the news. Should
Wendy Alexander replace Jack McConnell as Scottish Labour Party leader?
So for anyone to not have drivers ready. and Google Adding Search
Engines to Firefox Does Google, Yahoo and MSN index Flash content?
With its fine-tuned difficulty levels, Blazing Lazers is a shooting game
that anyone can enjoy. "  Users will now have to enter their details on
the site before being able to post messages on the forum boards, since
the overhaul has wiped all of the previous registrations from the
system.
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also the most exciting.
"So this device would not really change our management of births.
It has become most active centre of its kind in the UK outside Oxford
and Cambridge.
This one has the recommendations I needed to be convinced. Blizzard is
developing StarCraft II for simultaneous release on the Windows and
Macintosh PC platforms.
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Argentine scientists led by Dr Patricia Agostino, from the National
University of Quilmes in Buenos Aires, injected hamsters with sildenafil
at night. Perhpas something wrong with the RSS feed format you specify?
From the File menu, click Print.
Yesterday, after watching a program on PBS, the following program
started without any intervention from me, as I was at the computer,
multitasking, as I do much of the time. As you can see from the list
below, the hardware requirements for WSUS are dependent on the number of
clients on the network.
How long will it continue before the Chinese simply say to America that
it is time to pay up?




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When ambition ends, happiness begins.
Push yourself again and again. Don't give an inch until the final buzzer
sounds.
Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it
holds the universe together.
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
It's a business you go into because your an egocentric. It's a very
embarrassing profession.
So much alarmed that she is quite alarming, All Giggle, Blush, half
Pertness, and half Pout.
Alimony -- the ransom that the happy pay to the devil.
I never worry about action, but only inaction.
One evening I sat Beauty on my knees --And I found her bitter --And I
reviled her.
Be still my heart thou hast known worse than this.
If poetry is like an orgasm, an academic can be likened to someone who
studies the passion-stains on the bedsheets.
Boldness is business is the first, second, and third thing.
Books are the blessed chloroform of the mind.
Only your mind can produce fear.
Anti-Catholicism is the anti-Semitism of the intellectual.
To give pain is the tyranny to make happy, the true empire of beauty.
Life would be tolerable but for its amusements.
A lot of people do not muster the courage to live their dreams because
they are afraid to die.
It is better to be beautiful than to be good, but it is better to be
good than to be ugly.

 

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When ambition ends, happiness begins.<BR>
Push yourself again and again. Don't give an inch until the final buzzer sounds.<BR>
Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together.<BR>
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.<BR>
It's a business you go into because your an egocentric. It's a very embarrassing profession.<BR>
So much alarmed that she is quite alarming, All Giggle, Blush, half Pertness, and half Pout.<BR>
Alimony -- the ransom that the happy pay to the devil.<BR>
I never worry about action, but only inaction.<BR>
One evening I sat Beauty on my knees --And I found her bitter --And I reviled her.<BR>
Be still my heart thou hast known worse than this.<BR>
If poetry is like an orgasm, an academic can be likened to someone who studies the passion-stains on the bedsheets.<BR>
Boldness is business is the first, second, and third thing.<BR>
Books are the blessed chloroform of the mind.<BR>
Only your mind can produce fear.<BR>
Anti-Catholicism is the anti-Semitism of the intellectual.<BR>
To give pain is the tyranny to make happy, the true empire of beauty.<BR>
Life would be tolerable but for its amusements.<BR>
A lot of people do not muster the courage to live their dreams because they are afraid to die.<BR>
It is better to be beautiful than to be good, but it is better to be good than to be ugly.<BR></DIV>
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Kaynam,

> TWAMP update and next steps. I will be sending out the latest draft,
> based on comments in the Prague meeting, for review within the next few
> days.

You're on the agenda (and yes, please post the draft as soon as it is
ready, so we can have some discussion on the list and hopefully wrap
this up).

Henk
> 
> Regards,
> Kaynam 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Henk Uijterwaal [mailto:henk@ripe.net] 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 1:27 AM
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>> IPPM group,
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>> We have a slot reserved at the next IETF in Chicago.  Please 
>> send agenda requests to the chairs.
>>
>> Henk
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I know I have mentioned this in IPPM meetings in the past so I thought
I'd send this workshop announcement along.  Please feel free to pass
this along to anyone you think would be interested.

Thanks,
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IMRG Workshop on Application Classification and Identification (WACI)

There is considerable interest in identifying network traffic by 
application to support network provisioning, network security, and 
service quality.  Techniques that rely on a well-known port number 
to identify an application may give a gross notion of the spread of 
applications, but it is not a reliable means for application 
identification in the face of evasion.  There has been work in using 
traffic characteristics to construct application equivalence classes, 
using techniques such as machine learning, principal component 
analysis, deep packet inspection and others.
The Workshop on Application Classification and Identification 
(WACI) aims to bring together the most active researchers in this 
research area. The main objectives of the one-day workshop will be 
to discuss recent advancements in this field, discuss new 
approaches and their implications, and identify open problems that 
require further research.

Topics of interest (include, but are not limited to):
 - Statistical methods for identifying application-layer protocols
 - Methods for finding application classes (file transfer,
   interactive, etc.) 
 - Efficient schemes for using deep packet inspection to identify 
   applications 
 - Identifying applications within tunnels
 - Identifying rogue/nefarious applications
 - Peer-to-peer application identification
 - Peer-to-peer traffic characterization

Submission instructions

We invite interested researchers to submit a 1-2 page abstract or
position statement. Abstracts will be chosen based on their
relevance to the area of application identification, and on the
diversity of the covered topics. There will be no full-paper
submissions or proceedings. Authors of accepted abstracts however
should plan to give a 25-minute presentation that will be posted at
the workshop's web page (TBA). A significant part of the workshop
will be given to discussions and interaction among participants.
Submissions must be in electronic form, as plain-text or PDF (if
graphs are included) documents, and they should be submitted by
e-mail to: Tim Strayer (strayer@bbn.com).

Registration

Attendance at this workshop will be by invitation.  Authors of
submitted abstracts should commit that they will attend the workshop
if their abstract is accepted.  Others interested in attending
should indicate this in email to Tim Strayer (strayer@bbn.com).
There will be no registration fee.

Important Dates
 - July 1, 2007 - submission of 1-2 pages abstract
 - August 15, 2007 - acceptance notification
 - October 3, 2007 - workshop at BBN Technologies

Workshop Location

  WACI will be held at:
    BBN Technologies
    10 Moulton Street
    Cambridge MA, USA

Organizing and program committee

 - Tim Strayer, chair (BBN, strayer@bbn.com)
 - Mark Allman (ICIR-ICSI, mallman@acm.org)
 - Grenville Armitage (Swinburne University, garmitage@swin,edu.au)
 - Steve Bellovin (Columbia University, smb@cs.columbia.edu)
 - Shudong Jin (Case Western Reserve University, jins@case.edu)
 - Andrew Moore (CUCL, andrew.moore@cl.cam.ac.uk)

Sponsors

The workshop is sponsored by the IRTF's Internet Measurement
Research Group and hosted by BBN Technologies.




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	Title		: A Two-way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP)
	Author(s)	: J. Babiarz, et al.
	Filename	: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-04.txt
	Pages		: 20
	Date		: 2007-5-31
	
The IPPM One-way Active Measurement Protocol [RFC4656] (OWAMP) 
    provides a common protocol for measuring one-way metrics between 
    network devices.  OWAMP can be used bi-directionally to measure 
    one-way metrics in both directions between two network elements.  
    However, it does not accommodate round-trip or two-way 
    measurements.  This memo specifies a Two-way Active Measurement 
    Protocol (TWAMP), based on the OWAMP, that adds two-way or 
    round-trip measurement capabilities.  The TWAMP measurement 
    architecture is usually comprised of two hosts with specific roles, 
    and this allows for some protocol simplifications, making it an 
    attractive alternative in some circumstances.

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	Title		: Defining Network Capacity
	Author(s)	: P. Chimento, J. Ishac
	Filename	: draft-ietf-ippm-bw-capacity-05.txt
	Pages		: 20
	Date		: 2007-5-31
	
Measuring capacity is a task that sounds simple, but in reality can
   be quite complex.  In addition, the lack of a unified nomenclature on
   this subject makes it increasingly difficult to properly build, test,
   and use techniques and tools built around these constructs.  This
   document provides definitions for the terms 'Capacity' and 'Available
   Capacity' related to IP traffic traveling between a source and
   destination in an IP network.  By doing so, we hope to provide a
   common framework for the discussion and analysis of a diverse set of
   current and future estimation techniques.

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