From ippm@wjcerveny.com Sun Feb 2 18:38:58 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A981A0159 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2014 18:38:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dRMh5xOP7RBh for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2014 18:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29381A0155 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2014 18:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C4320A2B for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2014 21:38:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 02 Feb 2014 21:38:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date:to :mime-version; s=smtpout; bh=6EcnHe0E7zqehzsD04lQJ6pOC0U=; b=giz wYqU1/ruoDbkXT457uEyoP417cWhBAkluU0/fjFeYAz0Xc2rBHSoxzA3idba50pP lsLdJs8ztN5fXVXB4CJPpRbnAWeRKOKFLJTpGpaYrsqVFFmHuG6dyB8ojnsye+qE 0AuPzfYaKnOwoUYyrLTP+0uQlRVcJMg0sV/qBsZ8= X-Sasl-enc: By5aKC2pdKmCN63OeInLKVx/lPshE12r/GMvvgX+UfvX 1391395131 Received: from [192.168.1.106] (unknown [24.231.177.41]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3C370680226 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2014 21:38:51 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Cerveny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <68DFF3A0-7735-4D2D-B2B3-1FC1AD7B4D61@wjcerveny.com> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 21:38:52 -0500 To: ippm@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Subject: [ippm] IPPM WG status X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 02:38:58 -0000 Greetings IPPMers, As we begin approaching the next IETF meeting in London March 2-7, below = is a summary of IPPM WG status. As suggested by our area director, we're = hoping to provide updates on a regular basis (every month or two?). If = the authors have anything specific they'd like to have included in the = status, please let Brian Trammell or I know. Best Regards, Bill Cerveny Working Group Document Status: draft-ietf-ippm-testplan-rfc2680-04, "Test Plan and Results for = Advancing RFC 2680 on the Standards Track".=20 - This document has been submitted to the IESG for publication and is = currently undergoing AD evaluation. draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-01, "Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework = for IPPM".=20 - Last updated October 16, 2013.=20 - At IETF 88 in Vancouver, 9 IPPM WG attendees indicated they would = review the document. However, unless the reviews have been addressed = directly to the authors, there hasn't been any review activity. The = authors are interested in more reviews! draft-ietf-ippm-ipsec-01, "Network Performance Measurement for IPsec".=20= - Last updated October 21, 2013. - - An updated draft is expected shortly. draft-ietf-ippm-lmap-path-01, "A Reference Path and Measurement Points = for LMAP".=20 - Last updated September 24, 2013 draft-ietf-ippm-model-based-metrics-01, "Model Based Bulk Performance = Metrics" =20 - Last updated October 21, 2013. draft-ietf-ippm-rate-problem-05, "Rate Measurement Test Protocol Problem = Statement".=20 - Last updated December 12, 2013. Performance Metric Registry Design Team Status: The team intends to = submit a unified proposal by the -00 deadline, to be considered for = adoption as a working group item.= From a.botta@unina.it Wed Feb 5 07:35:29 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701541A01B7 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 07:35:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.556 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.556 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.535, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PBqybAb3_u0q for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 07:35:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.unina.it (smtp2.unina.it [192.132.34.62]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82ADB1A01BB for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 07:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [100.71.23.70] ([100.71.23.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp2.unina.it (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s15FZLlG007853 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 16:35:21 +0100 Message-ID: <52F25A39.3030405@unina.it> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:35:21 +0100 From: Alessio Botta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ippm@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [ippm] ACM MobiHoc workshop on Wireless and Mobile Technologies for Smart Cities (WiMobCity) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 15:35:29 -0000 [Our apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CALL FOR PAPER *ACM International Workshop on Wireless and Mobile Technologies for Smart Cities (WiMobCity)* Organized in conjunction with *ACM International Symposium on Mobile Ad Hoc Networking and Computing (MobiHoc)* Philadelphia, PA, USA, August 11-14, 2014 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is widely acknowledged that Smart Cities will drive sustainable economic growth in the next years and ICT represents one of the enabling factors for their actual implementation. The problem of efficiently supporting applications and services for Smart Cities in complex, distributed and diverse environments has been and is continuing to be the subject of intense research investigation. Wireless and Mobile Technologies play an essential role in the new and challenging scenario of Smart Cities. *Topics of interest* The main purpose of the WiMobCity Workshop is to bring together researchers, academics, and developers in the field of Smart Cities (and in particular on the related topics of Wireless and Mobile communication technologies and networking) in order to share new findings, exchange ideas, discuss research challenges and report latest research efforts that cover a variety of topics including, but not limited to: - Communication technologies, architectures and wireless/mobile protocols (WiFi / LTE / 4G) - Radio Frequency Identification (RFID), Near Field Communication (NFC) and Wireless Sensor Networks (WSNs) communication technologies - Machine-to-Machine (M2M) communications - Quality of Service (QoS) / Quality of Experience (QoE) mechanisms - Green and energy efficient technologies - Security and privacy communication issues for Smart Cities - Data management and access methods (cloud, crowdsourcing, etc.) - Pervasive Internet of Things (IoT) and mobile computing - Innovative applications and services for sustainable cities - Business models, billing approaches and new services for Smart Cities - Smart Cities deployments, platforms, test-beds and field trials - Standardization activities for Smart Cities *Submission Procedure* Paper submissions must be limited to 10 pages according to the Author Information page for submission guidelines in the ACM MobiHoc 2014 website. Accepted papers will be published in the symposium proceedings. All submitted papers will be judged on their quality through blind reviewing. Submitted papers must not be currently under review for any other publication. *General Chair* Antonio Pescapè (University of Napoli, Italy) *Technical Program co-Chairs* Alessio Botta (University of Napoli, Italy) Periklis Chatzimisios (Alexander TEI of Thessaloniki, Greece) *Important Dates* Paper submission deadline: March 16, 2014 Author notification: June 1, 2014 Camera ready due: June 18, 2014 --- Alessio Botta, PhD Dipartimento di Ingegneria Elettrica e delle Tecnologie dell'Informazione Università degli Studi di Napoli "Federico II" Via Claudio 21 -- 80125 Napoli (Italy) [Room 3.09] Phone: +390817683865 - Fax: +390817683816 Skypeid: alessiobotta Email: a.botta@unina.it alessio.botta@consorzio-cini.it WWW: http://wpage.unina.it/a.botta From trammell@tik.ee.ethz.ch Sun Feb 9 23:32:10 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23481A03B5 for ; 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Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:32:05 +0100 (MET) From: Brian Trammell Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4E26A8D0-1529-4D4C-9BC5-4C10509EBEFA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Message-Id: <72FEB83A-35B3-41FF-94D9-C6B82DEA6C63@tik.ee.ethz.ch> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:32:04 +0100 To: ippm@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Subject: [ippm] Call for agenda slots, IPPM at IETF 89 London X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 07:32:10 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_4E26A8D0-1529-4D4C-9BC5-4C10509EBEFA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, all, Please send requests for agenda slots in Vancouver to = ippm-chairs@tools.ietf.org by Thursday, February 13.=20 As usual, we'd like to have slots for (in priority order): - each of the current working group drafts - the results of the Registry Design Team effort - any new work fitting in our charter - significant updates of work already presented Many thanks, best regards, Brian --Apple-Mail=_4E26A8D0-1529-4D4C-9BC5-4C10509EBEFA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; 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Sun, 9 Feb 2014 23:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch (smtp.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.219]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAF31A069E for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2014 23:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC95CD9308 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:40:11 +0100 (MET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new on smtp.ee.ethz.ch Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.ee.ethz.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ORz4+0GIHYnp for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:40:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from [10.0.27.100] (cust-integra-122-165.antanet.ch [80.75.122.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: briant) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7BCF6D9307 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:40:11 +0100 (MET) From: Brian Trammell Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1665D3F2-8979-4C0B-BA93-F284847E5D9D"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:40:10 +0100 References: <72FEB83A-35B3-41FF-94D9-C6B82DEA6C63@tik.ee.ethz.ch> To: ippm@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <72FEB83A-35B3-41FF-94D9-C6B82DEA6C63@tik.ee.ethz.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for agenda slots, IPPM at IETF 89 London X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 07:40:14 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_1665D3F2-8979-4C0B-BA93-F284847E5D9D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, all, Apologies for the copy/paste error: please send requests for agenda = slots in _London_, of course. :) FYI, we're presently scheduled to meet = for two hours on Monday afternoon 3 March at 13:00. Best regards, Brian On 10 Feb 2014, at 08:32, Brian Trammell = wrote: > Greetings, all, >=20 > Please send requests for agenda slots in Vancouver to = ippm-chairs@tools.ietf.org by Thursday, February 13.=20 >=20 > As usual, we'd like to have slots for (in priority order): >=20 > - each of the current working group drafts > - the results of the Registry Design Team effort > - any new work fitting in our charter > - significant updates of work already presented >=20 > Many thanks, best regards, >=20 > Brian > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm --Apple-Mail=_1665D3F2-8979-4C0B-BA93-F284847E5D9D Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJS+IJaAAoJENt3nsOmbNJc7ZoIAMS6sJJmPXxWo8wPrSpLcc7C ZPrE/SZMGppsywGOg1o6K5CpNzz5cxyFGTkBozc4d6W9Icl/g694Y8aT1DdMf9BY 9jl49hBu+ylVtBk7vN7k1l1RluGxL6GqT484tKzk7ujn9RGdBhuijI5xxWbixEvP XDfjcekO4HLXLYFTlIf2hLhoizl9rhKSocd64R184SwvefiKC3CGWrWcOvC7rg6G tXVtQ3t+R5rdu5JMGdn7l2vtC7ncseluRs7fPXgZX2tmKGDxw0rAAAsbmEpL+ZVv HsfK6uPvgIVBZNC9THkiLgqvNpP+pz48DtLhX6haHwWGcWtWBIdBAS0yJ02Vj4o= =U58Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_1665D3F2-8979-4C0B-BA93-F284847E5D9D-- From dave.taht@gmail.com Mon Feb 10 08:23:01 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA711A086D for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:23:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rnx5FJfxd-vb for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qa0-x22a.google.com (mail-qa0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22a]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242EB1A017E for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id k4so9889955qaq.15 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:22:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vbJdwUUdheYUrbYIcAahyRCTOYGodUn4Y5rkEhnFL4Y=; b=K1t/gI5g2oX3it0rMPZxnMl0Utq4GDOX3gv1KCB+axx10LHTNxfqOxjupkLFPHi6lS rt4erD+fKv7yyYPlSoHd/Q6/JPScR1gKEi64FP/Fm2muxWZPfWYwvnT/SMR0GsQo1Od/ cUv7zfIxJxXo68zkopqb5lRd8gwrbsS6n7/2FyxPPtTVHfrOLjLPHOSnXz+KxI/5lLHI 99rbROcONLaWgYF+gdYXIEwEijWSs94iG+gf3p5HExdDvskHafZRh8/U2bAmrIPBER1+ dCUZIuwP4+6SwiTDFdY7rNZDRg+QLRLIS8G2wxB6UjaJ+0uw4IYYLDs9yyb7PYVyUiv5 leMA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.98.135 with SMTP id o7mr45703608qge.102.1392049377724; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:22:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.27.133 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:22:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <72FEB83A-35B3-41FF-94D9-C6B82DEA6C63@tik.ee.ethz.ch> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:22:57 -0800 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Brian Trammell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for agenda slots, IPPM at IETF 89 London X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:23:01 -0000 I severely doubt at this point that this will be ready before this ietf mee= ting. http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/draft-taht-twd-00.html The core technique will hopefully migrate into d-itg this month and possibly a few other benchmarks. Some prototypes of the code, designed to minimize host scheduler impact, exist at: https://github.com/dtaht/twd But: I am mostly thinking of throwing out the protocol design and migrating to Quic. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Brian Trammell w= rote: > Greetings, all, > > Apologies for the copy/paste error: please send requests for agenda slots= in _London_, of course. :) FYI, we're presently scheduled to meet for two = hours on Monday afternoon 3 March at 13:00. > > Best regards, > > Brian > > On 10 Feb 2014, at 08:32, Brian Trammell wrote: > >> Greetings, all, >> >> Please send requests for agenda slots in Vancouver to ippm-chairs@tools.= ietf.org by Thursday, February 13. >> >> As usual, we'd like to have slots for (in priority order): >> >> - each of the current working group drafts >> - the results of the Registry Design Team effort >> - any new work fitting in our charter >> - significant updates of work already presented >> >> Many thanks, best regards, >> >> Brian >> _______________________________________________ >> ippm mailing list >> ippm@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > --=20 Dave T=E4ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.= html From steve.baillargeon@ericsson.com Mon Feb 10 09:44:58 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FE41A0861 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:44:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GaqnYgrw1quv for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:44:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from usevmg20.ericsson.net (usevmg20.ericsson.net [198.24.6.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134881A0386 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:44:56 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c618062d-b7f858e0000031c7-a6-52f91014b85b Received: from EUSAAHC007.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.93]) by usevmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id E3.33.12743.41019F25; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:44:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB105.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.122]) by EUSAAHC007.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.93]) with mapi id 14.02.0387.000; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:44:54 -0500 From: Steve Baillargeon To: Dave Taht , Brian Trammell Thread-Topic: [ippm] Call for agenda slots, IPPM at IETF 89 London Thread-Index: AQHPJnxlkDJH07JZzUyZQ9ojf8cKVZquwH6A Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:44:54 +0000 Message-ID: References: <72FEB83A-35B3-41FF-94D9-C6B82DEA6C63@tik.ee.ethz.ch> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-CA, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.12] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrGLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPrK6IwM8ggxMLVSz2bDzJYtHz4B2z xfvnnSwOzB47Z91l91iy5CeTx7EPX9kCmKO4bFJSczLLUov07RK4Mh50sxVsFK7YMeUQewPj T/4uRk4OCQETielb37FD2GISF+6tZ+ti5OIQEjjCKNHYvYQVJCEksJxRYssnExCbTcBCYv3c ZcxdjBwcIgK+Ekceg5UwCyhL7H01nxHEFhZwlHj8u5kJxBYRcJJ4cvY4O4RtJPFuyhswm0VA VeLQj7dgNbxAY95ufAe19wCjxM62rWwgCU6BQInrR3aCLWAUkJXYffY6E8QycYlbT+YzQRwt ILFkz3lmCFtU4uXjf6wQtpLEnNfXmCHq9SRuTJ3CBmFrSyxb+JoZYrGgxMmZT1gmMIrNQjJ2 FpKWWUhaZiFpWcDIsoqRo7Q4tSw33chgEyMwbo5JsOnuYNzz0vIQozQHi5I475e3zkFCAumJ JanZqakFqUXxRaU5qcWHGJk4OKUaGKuq2ayu3H3CF1pxZ/3LBGEWKx+JqLd7Lbd2/3vH8F5/ T/+pf7O4Y2bX6t/xrHL7fv8yl0fLXZtaM2a7lS3TH1yRlP/yKYX/xqEIN4GV7vtOP6p90T0l 9Maz7uVfPn5/rS+WvEeg99T5Bhddxl3LctI4F3M5PL/pIRmzvFz4w7ppdWU/K3ceXa3EUpyR aKjFXFScCABcUs/KaQIAAA== Cc: "ippm@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for agenda slots, IPPM at IETF 89 London X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:44:58 -0000 Hi Dave Take a look at http://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-hedin-ippm-type-p-monitor-02= .pdf It describes a new mode to monitor DSCP and/or ECN using TWAMP.=20 I believe it addresses the following 2 points (at least the protocol change= s) highlighted in your draft: .respect for and preservation of diffserv bits=20 .respect for and preservation ecn-related bits -Steve -----Original Message----- From: ippm [mailto:ippm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Taht Sent: February-10-14 11:23 AM To: Brian Trammell Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for agenda slots, IPPM at IETF 89 London I severely doubt at this point that this will be ready before this ietf mee= ting. http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/draft-taht-twd-00.html The core technique will hopefully migrate into d-itg this month and possibl= y a few other benchmarks. Some prototypes of the code, designed to minimize= host scheduler impact, exist at: https://github.com/dtaht/twd But: I am mostly thinking of throwing out the protocol design and migrating= to Quic. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Brian Trammell w= rote: > Greetings, all, > > Apologies for the copy/paste error: please send requests for agenda slots= in _London_, of course. :) FYI, we're presently scheduled to meet for two = hours on Monday afternoon 3 March at 13:00. > > Best regards, > > Brian > > On 10 Feb 2014, at 08:32, Brian Trammell wrote: > >> Greetings, all, >> >> Please send requests for agenda slots in Vancouver to ippm-chairs@tools.= ietf.org by Thursday, February 13. >> >> As usual, we'd like to have slots for (in priority order): >> >> - each of the current working group drafts >> - the results of the Registry Design Team effort >> - any new work fitting in our charter >> - significant updates of work already presented >> >> Many thanks, best regards, >> >> Brian >> _______________________________________________ >> ippm mailing list >> ippm@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > -- Dave T=E4ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.= html _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From dave.taht@gmail.com Mon Feb 10 09:51:23 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF201A01E8 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:51:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ftqvPya5RZaD for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:51:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qa0-x233.google.com (mail-qa0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::233]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49CF1A03E2 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:51:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id f11so9932130qae.38 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:51:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u/H5MGpLhBDjgQTSQ/nhb4lOuw6BgP3e8z6i6DmY9ds=; b=hdX50z0+1D1oQlH0X/DwQLt4OzPhDk36PeUuxJd+xEnpE3WqSY9d2+kHbe2mNaKiQb r8rThz/de0rh1U5rm5jR2bKp7c34eCa+u1RBSc8uGY3allNdkYzpWSG4GQ6CHHBCt36j y6b0sbG01RBdh+pRa5S6k31+ufMvqS5bEcSX1YH1+cop6DVrLJ1gx9QSFbxdTKO3YXpy fqIx7lkaT4Jjzr47Um+AvR/mdtl0FArxdnfA31PU1nobnfDgkdByd5pwdaSOBn2LTRGM 2DO+m7AgFuDOk7f+wjhM3meCi53khDfkunNE0+4ug1/pQcZmIq2L8CwJ+k7lHasnQt2N qRJg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.179.5 with SMTP id bo5mr32805559qcb.21.1392054675399; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:51:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.27.133 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:51:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <72FEB83A-35B3-41FF-94D9-C6B82DEA6C63@tik.ee.ethz.ch> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:51:15 -0800 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Steve Baillargeon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "ippm@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for agenda slots, IPPM at IETF 89 London X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:51:23 -0000 helpful, thank you! I note that what I was trying to roll was a system, code architecture and method for measuring one way delays in each direction simultaneously. It turned out that timestamping right-off-the-hw device ringbuffer has an API in linux that looked quite usable. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Steve Baillargeon wrote: > Hi Dave > Take a look at http://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-hedin-ippm-type-p-monitor-= 02.pdf > > It describes a new mode to monitor DSCP and/or ECN using TWAMP. > I believe it addresses the following 2 points (at least the protocol chan= ges) highlighted in your draft: > > .respect for and preservation of diffserv bits > .respect for and preservation ecn-related bits > > -Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: ippm [mailto:ippm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Taht > Sent: February-10-14 11:23 AM > To: Brian Trammell > Cc: ippm@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for agenda slots, IPPM at IETF 89 London > > I severely doubt at this point that this will be ready before this ietf m= eeting. > > http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/draft-taht-twd-00.html > > The core technique will hopefully migrate into d-itg this month and possi= bly a few other benchmarks. Some prototypes of the code, designed to minimi= ze host scheduler impact, exist at: > > https://github.com/dtaht/twd > > But: I am mostly thinking of throwing out the protocol design and migrati= ng to Quic. > > > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Brian Trammell = wrote: >> Greetings, all, >> >> Apologies for the copy/paste error: please send requests for agenda slot= s in _London_, of course. :) FYI, we're presently scheduled to meet for two= hours on Monday afternoon 3 March at 13:00. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Brian >> >> On 10 Feb 2014, at 08:32, Brian Trammell wrote= : >> >>> Greetings, all, >>> >>> Please send requests for agenda slots in Vancouver to ippm-chairs@tools= .ietf.org by Thursday, February 13. >>> >>> As usual, we'd like to have slots for (in priority order): >>> >>> - each of the current working group drafts >>> - the results of the Registry Design Team effort >>> - any new work fitting in our charter >>> - significant updates of work already presented >>> >>> Many thanks, best regards, >>> >>> Brian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ippm mailing list >>> ippm@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ippm mailing list >> ippm@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm >> > > > > -- > Dave T=E4ht > > Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscrib= e.html > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm --=20 Dave T=E4ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.= html From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Feb 10 23:26:15 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E8E1A08E4; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 23:26:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VZJDEIh8xAJE; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 23:26:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767641A07B1; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 23:26:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.0.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140211072612.9083.59005.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 23:26:12 -0800 Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-02.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 07:26:16 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework for IPPM Authors : Joachim Fabini Al Morton Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-02.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2014-02-10 Abstract: To obtain repeatable results in modern networks, test descriptions need an expanded stream parameter framework that also augments aspects specified as Type-P for test packets. This memo proposes to update the IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) Framework with advanced considerations for measurement methodology and testing. The existing framework mostly assumes deterministic connectivity, and that a single test stream will represent the characteristics of the path when it is aggregated with other flows. Networks have evolved and test stream descriptions must evolve with them, otherwise unexpected network features may dominate the measured performance. This memo describes new stream parameters for both network characterization and support of application design using IPPM metrics. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From fanpeng@chinamobile.com Wed Feb 12 22:57:54 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C051A011B for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:57:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.226 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.226 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RELAY_IS_221=2.222, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bD3FUBGaNM1L for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from cmccmta.chinamobile.com (cmccmta.chinamobile.com [221.176.64.232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EBFBA1A010F for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from spf.mail.chinamobile.com (unknown[172.16.20.12]) by rmmx-oa_allagent01-12001 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee152fc6c61861-86861; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:55:30 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee152fc6c61861-86861 Received: from X6X8D79D8F49E2 (unknown[10.2.43.104]) by rmsmtp-oa_rmapp02-12002 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee252fc6c61ce6-a886b; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:55:30 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee252fc6c61ce6-a886b From: "Fan, Peng" To: References: <20140213034758.15050.19758.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20140213034758.15050.19758.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:57:59 +0800 Message-ID: <006801cf2888$eec9ce60$cc5d6b20$@chinamobile.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIfVE30e6VZXpOJTn3uq1mkH7XXsJoSZEBw Content-Language: zh-cn Subject: [ippm] FW: New Version Notification for draft-fan-ippm-web-metrics-00.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 06:57:55 -0000 Dear all, We have posted an I-D describing metrics for evaluating web browsing = performance, and would like to get your valuable reviews and comments. = The document is at: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-fan-ippm-web-metrics-00.txt Thanks and regards, Peng -----Original Message----- From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org]=20 Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:48 AM To: Peng Fan; Peng Fan Subject: New Version Notification for draft-fan-ippm-web-metrics-00.txt A new version of I-D, draft-fan-ippm-web-metrics-00.txt has been = successfully submitted by Peng Fan and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-fan-ippm-web-metrics Revision: 00 Title: Performance Metrics for Web Browsing Document date: 2014-02-13 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 4 URL: = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-fan-ippm-web-metrics-00.txt Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fan-ippm-web-metrics/ Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fan-ippm-web-metrics-00 Abstract: This document specifies metrics to evaluate performance for web browsing service. = =20 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at = tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Thu Feb 13 08:13:35 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EE31A033C; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:13:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6jUu6puAPWwB; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F641A02AC; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:13:29 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.0.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: Message-ID: <20140213161328.21967.14527.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:13:28 -0800 Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] Last Call: (Test Plan and Results for Advancing RFC 2680 on the Standards Track) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:13:35 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the IP Performance Metrics WG (ippm) to consider the following document: - 'Test Plan and Results for Advancing RFC 2680 on the Standards Track' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2014-02-27. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This memo proposes to advance a performance metric RFC along the standards track, specifically RFC 2680 on One-way Loss Metrics. Observing that the metric definitions themselves should be the primary focus rather than the implementations of metrics, this memo describes the test procedures to evaluate specific metric requirement clauses to determine if the requirement has been interpreted and implemented as intended. Two completely independent implementations have been tested against the key specifications of RFC 2680. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-testplan-rfc2680/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-testplan-rfc2680/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From nobody Thu Feb 13 11:34:19 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517E41A0428; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:34:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w8rZlvMAvAab; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:34:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A069A1A0420; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:34:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.0.0.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140213193412.26388.23452.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:34:12 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/A1a0DGnfPWn8icd0Wct79U95l64 Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-lmap-path-02.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 19:34:15 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : A Reference Path and Measurement Points for LMAP Authors : Marcelo Bagnulo Trevor Burbridge Sam Crawford Phil Eardley Al Morton Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-lmap-path-02.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2014-02-13 Abstract: This document defines a reference path for Large-scale Measurement of Broadband Access Performance (LMAP) and measurement points for commonly used performance metrics. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-lmap-path/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-lmap-path-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ippm-lmap-path-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Feb 14 09:07:35 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9231A028B; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:07:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1jq3coM72yX5; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFBF1A02D3; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:07:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.0.0.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140214170728.13548.51294.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:07:28 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/e6dCAiKwpdJ1H355NXrFuyPSwQo Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-ipsec-02.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:07:31 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : Network Performance Measurement for IPsec Authors : Kostas Pentikousis Yang Cui Emma Zhang Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-ipsec-02.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2014-02-14 Abstract: The O/TWAMP security mechanism requires that endpoints (i.e. both the client and the server) possess a shared secret. Since the currently- standardized O/TWAMP security mechanism only supports a pre-shared key mode, large scale deployment of O/TWAMP is hindered significantly. At the same time, recent trends point to wider IKEv2 deployment, which in turn calls for mechanisms and methods that enable tunnel end-users, as well as operators, to measure one-way and two-way network performance in a standardized manner. This document discusses the use of keys derived from an IKE SA as the shared key in O/TWAMP. If the shared key can be derived from the IKE SA, O/TWAMP can support cert-based key exchange, which would allow for more flexibility and efficiency. Such key derivation can also facilitate automatic key management. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-ipsec/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-ipsec-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ippm-ipsec-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Feb 14 10:27:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47EB1A025F for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:27:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.748 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.748 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E7AGxPxBg39q for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch (smtp.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.219]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005AC1A03C8 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:27:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA72CD9307 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 19:27:02 +0100 (MET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new on smtp.ee.ethz.ch Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.ee.ethz.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17YC+2SocRS3 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 19:27:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from [10.0.27.100] (cust-integra-122-165.antanet.ch [80.75.122.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: briant) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 645E0D9305 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 19:27:02 +0100 (MET) From: Brian Trammell Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1B586E53-5557-4C82-88D0-2D50886BA1B6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 19:27:01 +0100 Message-Id: <9CEBDB8A-F6CF-4BEC-AFC8-905FD38EF378@tik.ee.ethz.ch> To: ippm@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/L9sd9h0PzNDHBK_Z6TJho4v8-wc Subject: [ippm] Draft agenda for IPPM, IETF 89, Monday 3 March 2014 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "ippm-chairs@tools.ietf.org Chairs" List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 18:27:08 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_1B586E53-5557-4C82-88D0-2D50886BA1B6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, all, The draft agenda for IPPM has been posted at = http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/agenda/agenda-89-ippm, and is copied = below. Please send any comments or questions to = ippm-chairs@tools.ietf.org. Best regards, Brian IPPM Agenda - IETF 89 London Remote participation is available via meetecho; see http://ietf89.conf.meetecho.com Please note the meeting takes place in UTC+0. Monday 3 March, 13:00 - 15:00 WET (UTC+0), Palace C =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I. Welcome and Administrivia ------ --------------------------------------------------------------- 13:00 Welcome, Status, and Agenda Bash 10m Chairs (B. Trammell, B. Cerveny) Status: 2680 test plan has been sent up to the IESG.=20 We are working to complete our Spring 2013 charter before accepting new work. We will consider individual drafts from the Registry Design team for adoption today. WGLC on current drafts (except model-based-metrics) will follow directly after London. We plan to consider additional drafts for adoption via the list between London and Toronto. II. Current Working Group Drafts ------ --------------------------------------------------------------- 13:10 draft-ietf-ippm-rate-problem 10m A. Morton 13:20 draft-ietf-ippm-lmap-path 10m A. Morton 13:30 draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update [in WGLC until Friday 7 March] 10m J. Fabini 13:40 draft-ietf-ippm-ipsec [WGLC to start Monday 3 March] 10m K. Pentikousis 13:50 draft-ietf-ippm-model-based-metrics [if updated] 10m M. Mathis III. Registry Design Team ------ --------------------------------------------------------------- 14:00 draft-manyfolks-ippm-metric-registry draft-mornuley-ippm-registry-active 30m TBD =20 IV. New Work ------ --------------------------------------------------------------- 11:30 draft-trammell-ippm-hybrid-ps 10m V. Zheng / S. Silva / M. Bagnulo =20 11:40 draft-fan-ippm-web-metrics 10m P. Fan 11:50 draft-deng-ippm-wireless 10m L. Deng V. Additional Agenda Items (Time Allowing) ------ --------------------------------------------------------------- draft-elkins-ippm-pdm-metrics --Apple-Mail=_1B586E53-5557-4C82-88D0-2D50886BA1B6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJS/l/1AAoJENt3nsOmbNJcImkIAKL+87brpdCyOZKWae/K1hai NHASy02c0QS+MR9w7VlK3LgUGNny7c43LSXQlePle3F6dxQ3LQTfsT1zZZRdmXhj i8FBFYXCla7y4nQMOgC0R+u8o9oso6m9Hp8BinyCbUn8YIaBweKUo3iDXH6MZQjo N46GtMXjju5RlZGV939FO92Pz5yBTTomqh0YV4J5a1wqoblLCgQX2akr6rqTlB/E bqyq3iUIQnTMkFK14s+ZIIHTDl55jBC5K0yQa4erl5oJ0pDm59gwPNZ1PtrbWfGM fYn2+o4jY/xlT11oMR/TjmmPnKAC6J3fgxezDOqFyR8G5YZ1R4dctVoFeyo8uHA= =onYZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_1B586E53-5557-4C82-88D0-2D50886BA1B6-- From nobody Fri Feb 14 14:09:16 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983211A0030; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:09:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rc2mBPQdd_UQ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581E11A0106; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:09:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.0.0.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140214220904.19314.37057.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:09:04 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/grgYFJGdf9Mwtde3u9xJJiGe7hc Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-model-based-metrics-02.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 22:09:07 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : Model Based Bulk Performance Metrics Authors : Matt Mathis Al Morton Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-model-based-metrics-02.txt Pages : 42 Date : 2014-02-14 Abstract: We introduce a new class of model based metrics designed to determine if an end-to-end Internet path can meet predefined transport performance targets by applying a suite of IP diagnostic tests to successive subpaths. The subpath-at-a-time tests are designed to accurately detect if any subpath will prevent the full end-to-end path from meeting the specified target performance. Each IP diagnostic test consists of a precomputed traffic pattern and a statistical criteria for evaluating packet delivery. The IP diagnostics tests are based on traffic patterns that are precomputed to mimic TCP or other transport protocol over a long path but are independent of the actual details of the subpath under test. Likewise the success criteria depends on the target performance and not the actual performance of the subpath. This makes the measurements open loop, eliminating nearly all of the difficulties encountered by traditional bulk transport metrics. This document does not fully define diagnostic tests, but provides a framework for designing suites of diagnostics tests that are tailored the confirming the target performance. By making the tests open loop, we eliminate standards congestion control equilibrium behavior, which otherwise causes every measured parameter to be sensitive to every component of the system. As an open loop test, various measurable properties become independent, and potentially subject to an algebra enabling several important new uses. Interim DRAFT Formatted: Fri Feb 14 14:07:33 PST 2014 The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-model-based-metrics/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-model-based-metrics-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ippm-model-based-metrics-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Feb 16 16:38:46 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A247B1A00E0 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 16:38:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rxE6ZzPZxOOH for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 16:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8E71A0078 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 16:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72ADC20749 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 19:38:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 16 Feb 2014 19:38:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:content-type:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version; s=smtpout; bh=cG+CJWjOGAkoYK41iHjPMhKPNsw=; b= ugENq35n+RsyBqPqw63V4a1845jnC+lDUyFELLIEYLanQOcbZ0U8tFU6T3SHuoxH 1nU1kOhBzBt8KT5wd1CbVaKUS53Z50jsI9KjFqszSGf0IOLrP1ynxouvWcdwUwcW AUF4YiEFc/qx8AB6uLA9/HfLJzoexHkPPzLuh81Odlo= X-Sasl-enc: CWJxPu4WDYTsdobkLqj/lszs3QBzh8zD3Q2+PAL1rL2d 1392597519 Received: from [192.168.1.106] (unknown [24.231.177.41]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1BC79C0000C for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2014 19:38:38 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Cerveny Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E85C4EE4-E5C4-47A7-B60A-C8AA24BBCF54" Message-Id: Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 19:39:02 -0500 To: ippm@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/IzZHWmCmByWRXuP7pNjExirAuL8 Subject: [ippm] WGLC of draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-02 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:38:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E85C4EE4-E5C4-47A7-B60A-C8AA24BBCF54 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear IPPM WG Participants, Working Group Last Call for IPPM working group draft "Advanced Stream = and Sampling Framework for IPPM", = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update/ , has begun = and concludes on Friday, March 7, 2014. Please send your comments about = this I-D to the WG mail list until March 7, 2014. If you have no = comments, but believe that this document is ready to be submitted to the = IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC, a short e-mail to the = list stating this is encouraged. Regards, Bill Cerveny= --Apple-Mail=_E85C4EE4-E5C4-47A7-B60A-C8AA24BBCF54 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Dear IPPM WG Participants,

Working Group Last Call for IPPM working group draft "Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework for IPPM",  http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update/ , has begun and concludes on Friday, March 7, 2014. Please send your comments about this I-D to the WG mail list until March 7, 2014.  If you have no comments, but believe that this document is ready to be submitted to the IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC, a short e-mail to the list stating this is encouraged.

Regards,

Bill Cerveny
--Apple-Mail=_E85C4EE4-E5C4-47A7-B60A-C8AA24BBCF54-- From nobody Fri Feb 21 06:20:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B121B1A017F for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 06:20:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VV5j8oOsyflQ for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 06:20:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from trammell.ch (trammell1.nine.ch [5.148.172.66]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2971A0169 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 06:20:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:67c:10ec:2a49:8000::8] (unknown [IPv6:2001:67c:10ec:2a49:8000::8]) by trammell.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C99BA1A0725; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 15:20:13 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) From: Brian Trammell In-Reply-To: <9CEBDB8A-F6CF-4BEC-AFC8-905FD38EF378@tik.ee.ethz.ch> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 15:20:13 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <9CEBDB8A-F6CF-4BEC-AFC8-905FD38EF378@tik.ee.ethz.ch> To: "ippm-chairs@tools.ietf.org Chairs" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/7NN1sgb7Tb1jgRwjUBFmERDnYQ0 Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ippm] Draft agenda for IPPM, IETF 89, Monday 3 March 2014 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:20:54 -0000 Greetings, all, The draft agenda at = http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/agenda/agenda-89-ippm has been = updated to reverse the order of the Registry Design Team and WG Drafts = sections, to accommodate a conflict with the MPTCP working group. We'll finalize the agenda on Monday 24 Feb, so if you have any comments = or concerns, please make them soon. Thanks, cheers, Brian On 14 Feb 2014, at 19:27, Brian Trammell = wrote: > Greetings, all, >=20 > The draft agenda for IPPM has been posted at = http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/agenda/agenda-89-ippm, and is copied = below. Please send any comments or questions to = ippm-chairs@tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Brian From nobody Fri Feb 21 13:14:41 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690821A0081 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:10:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.79 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.79 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, CN_BODY_35=0.339, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V7JcT6XXRcM5 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com (mail-ie0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCEF1A0073 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id y20so4348073ier.4 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:10:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TmZwx3JGLROndmviAkxh7Bi2VrLAT1V3ifWHcNWoefM=; b=q0huuuaER4W+3QNU++BOomybpS+Diw3mCZpujBLgUVNNNCGKTxNIhqy5zX90xsc2zM 98t7YsK+VGVDjI3DDyvWhhGGWmv5l2QKx3TeM2NanDgm+paZWYWKeSG9EWp7cFvx1mV6 WP75L6oyb3+LlT2qeDbf+wmefnSzzfWAdgSpg2ntwnUsZKIXjzO3Gl8g/8RNVro70Uwg vv6oO5dvaD17BGNpCBOUgtmFONXSHbPw61ZS6kzoqMlyomYJgnJQfjmSv2Ya2l8oVwYU ZsPPx3hRyiVbAtR913wZNTx4XIo7ae8vscIg6yxXr09HcZxwwRRl3pFFmkpGL2ZWFm0M HiOA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.103.101 with SMTP id fv5mr632823igb.2.1392351024689; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.152.228 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:10:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <007901cf293a$079dfc70$16d9f550$@com> References: <007901cf293a$079dfc70$16d9f550$@com> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 12:10:24 +0800 Message-ID: From: lingli deng To: ippm@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2e12933b009504f255fca2 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/kKccmQhuJ1OYysVypTowlX8JipA X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 13:14:39 -0800 Subject: [ippm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-deng-ippm-wireless-01.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:10:28 -0000 --047d7b2e12933b009504f255fca2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, We uploaded a new version of the PS draft for performance measurement in mobile networks. In particular, we add a new usecase for multi-hop/segment measurement, and ECN feedback collection into consideration. Your review and comments would be highly appreciated. BR ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: =B5=CB=C1=E9=C0=F2/Lingli Deng Date: 2014-02-14 12:05 GMT+08:00 Subject: =D7=AA=B7=A2: New Version Notification for draft-deng-ippm-wireles= s-01.txt To: denglingli@gmail.com -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.o= rg] =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2014=C4=EA2=D4=C214=C8=D5 12:05 =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Deng Lingli; Lingli Deng; Zhen Cao; Zhen Cao =D6=F7=CC=E2: New Version Notification for draft-deng-ippm-wireless-01.txt A new version of I-D, draft-deng-ippm-wireless-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Lingli Deng and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-deng-ippm-wireless Revision: 01 Title: Problem Statement for IP measurement in mobile networks Document date: 2014-02-12 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 8 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-deng-ippm-wireless-01.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-deng-ippm-wireless/ Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-deng-ippm-wireless-01 Diff: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-deng-ippm-wireless= -01 Abstract: This document analyzes the potential problems of applying existing IP-based performance measurement methods to wireless accessing environments. It suggests that a more flexible passive measuring framework and performance metrics, such as congestion ratio are needed. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --=20 =B5=CB=C1=E9=C0=F2/Lingli Deng =D6=D0=B9=FA=D2=C6=B6=AF=CD=A8=D0=C5=D1=D0=BE=BF=D4=BA/China Mobile Researc= h Institute e-mail: denglingli@chinamobile.com tel: 15801696688-3367 mobile: 13810597148 --047d7b2e12933b009504f255fca2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

We uploaded a new ve= rsion of the PS draft for performance measurement in mobile networks.<= /div>
In particular, we add a new usecase for multi-hop/segment measure= ment, and ECN feedback collection into consideration.
Your review and comments would be highly appreciated.

BR

---------- Forwarded me= ssage ----------
From: =B5=CB=C1=E9=C0=F2/= Lingli Deng <denglingli@chinamobile.com>
Date: 2014-02-14 12:05 GMT+08:00
Subject: =D7=AA=B7=A2: New Version Noti= fication for draft-deng-ippm-wireless-01.txt
To: denglingli@gmail.com




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=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Deng Lingli; Lingli Deng; Zhen Cao; Zhen Cao
=D6=F7=CC=E2: New Version Notification for draft-deng-ippm-wireless-01.txt<= br>

A new version of I-D, draft-deng-ippm-wireless-01.txt
has been successfully submitted by Lingli Deng and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:           draft-deng-ippm-wireless
Revision:       01
Title:          Problem Statement for IP measureme= nt in mobile networks
Document date:  2014-02-12
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          8
URL:            http:/= /www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-deng-ippm-wireless-01.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.= org/doc/draft-deng-ippm-wireless/
Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-d= eng-ippm-wireless-01
Diff:           http://www.ietf.= org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-deng-ippm-wireless-01

Abstract:
   This document analyzes the potential problems of applying exis= ting
   IP-based performance measurement methods to wireless accessing=
   environments.  It suggests that a more flexible passive m= easuring
   framework and performance metrics, such as congestion ratio ar= e
   needed.




Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

The IETF Secretariat







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e-mail: dengli= ngli@chinamobile.com
tel: 15801696688-3367
mobile: 13810597148
--047d7b2e12933b009504f255fca2-- From nobody Tue Feb 25 14:11:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7ED1A07C1 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:11:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TCnrajlQaOzU for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:11:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF501A0298 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:11:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CDB21231 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 17:11:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from web1 ([10.202.2.211]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 25 Feb 2014 17:11:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=OtqGOM4+/olBrpkguC1X6nXBNgY=; b=JEwGhhsps4zF3TnXX9VFxs1Kfp/G Bw8jkj+pPHyL1jvHFCiwV9UjIab7F3+q40gTtaL1/RKJ4vBrztKUeIZPmadGeEC4 fg0PqDa6c5JnKh4ETgo4DPPY6b3Qye4KBC4EyzO+WzaG3via/OMvEk+U+xKzeGC2 h44rqawF1WxMS+I= Received: by web1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id E4BACF00B0D; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 17:11:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1393366261.3773.87776589.500E85A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: OO18AN8kZlqHhELHbcUhSBLqHEorcBmmUQ5PKJOMfyTr 1393366261 From: William Cerveny To: ippm@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-4527a23f Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 17:11:01 -0500 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/c09CS5BLXjpU4hkd9tqQOn_Pho8 Subject: [ippm] IPPM @ IETF89 Administrative Notes X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:11:07 -0000 Dear IPPM participants, As we approach IPPM@IETF89 Monday, March, 3, 2014 (at 1300 UTC/GMT), please note the following: - We need note takers and jabber scribes. Please let us know if you can be a note taker or jabber scribe. - As the IPPM meeting is on Monday at 1300UTC/GMT, I would appreciate it if presenters can provide slides to me as soon as possible, optimistically by Friday, February 28. Things get pretty busy at IETF meetings and it would be really helpful if I can have these slides to post by Friday. - The current working group documents are listed at the top of http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ippm/ . Five of these documents have been updated since the last IETF. draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update is in working group last call until Friday, March 7 and draft-ietf-ippm-ipsec will begin WGLC on Monday, March 3. Comments regarding any of the working group documents are encouraged. Discussion at the meeting will be more lively if participants read the drafts and have comments ready. - A cornerstone of the meeting will be a presentation of the outcome of the IPPM registry design team, including introduction of three documents to be considered for working group adoption consideration. IPPM participants are encouraged to review the three registry documents and be ready for discussion. These three documents are: -- draft-manyfolks-ippm-metric-registry http://tools.ietf.org/html?draft=draft-manyfolks-ippm-metric-registry -- draft-mornuley-ippm-registry-active http://tools.ietf.org/html?draft=draft-mornuley-ippm-registry-active -- draft-akhter-ippm-registry-passive http://tools.ietf.org/html?draft=draft-akhter-ippm-registry-passive - Participants should feel free to post their comments on any IPPM WG related draft to the IPPM mailing list. Having "talking-points" from the list will improve the quality of discussion at the meeting. - The meeting will be on Meetecho. See http://ietf89.conf.meetecho.com/ Regards, Bill Cerveny Brian Trammell IPPM WG Co-chairs