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Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:33:53 -0000 IPPM, to save some time today, comments on draft-fan-ippm-web-metrics: =20 These are high-level descriptions of the typical HTTP metrics. I recommend that the authors consult an existing standard on=20 "high-level" protocol performance metrics, which contains a detailed framework and examples for specifying detailed metrics, Y.1562. There is also related work in-progress in ITU-T SG 12. Also, Vinayak Hegde prepared a similar draft for the PMOL working group years ago, and perhaps he can provide a link to his draft, or other comments. regards, Al From nobody Mon Mar 3 02:55:08 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A44C1A0D8E for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 02:55:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.283 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.283 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FRT_BELOW2=2.154, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_FRT_BELOW2=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BpxEtgeOhMxm for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 02:54:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com 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(Postfix, from userid 99) id 8D63F54134B; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 06:02:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1393844520.8199.89869565.770151BF@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: blB56cydqGWIGOreMgFiWMskETNQBMVM1iaHeGPsEOVo 1393844520 From: William Cerveny To: ippm@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-4527a23f Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 06:02:00 -0500 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/2jaVLbPYU4KxLBoFRMEeJLOvCEc Subject: [ippm] Note takers and jabber scribes still needed for today's meeting X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 11:02:08 -0000 Hi, We still need note takers and jabber scribes for today's IPPM WG meeting. Please consider volunteering as we can't start without these roles filled. Thanks, Bill Cerveny From nobody Mon Mar 3 04:45:23 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138021A0047 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 04:45:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tAQ8ZbyK34rc for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 04:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-red.research.att.com (mail-red.research.att.com [204.178.8.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B381A00A9 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 04:44:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (unknown [135.207.178.11]) by mail-red.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCE755433F for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 07:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from njfpsrvexg8.research.att.com (unknown [135.207.255.243]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D72EF036E for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 07:44:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from NJFPSRVEXG8.research.att.com ([fe80::cdea:b3f6:3efa:1841]) by njfpsrvexg8.research.att.com ([fe80::cdea:b3f6:3efa:1841%13]) with mapi; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 07:44:51 -0500 From: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" To: "ippm@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 07:44:50 -0500 Thread-Topic: comments on draft-deng-ippm-wireless Thread-Index: AQHPNt5eTQUguD2Z+06jUukrKBuFjw== Message-ID: <2845723087023D4CB5114223779FA9C80176B69163@njfpsrvexg8.research.att.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/PdmNd6ulYJGIJkU3LrN0ccKnlzY Subject: [ippm] comments on draft-deng-ippm-wireless X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 12:45:21 -0000 IPPM, comments on draft-deng-ippm-wireless In section 2: Under Dynamic Load Balancing: Figure 1: Active Measuring Traffic versus Actual Traffic in case of Device Pooling Hence, under such environments, if active performance measurement methods[RFC4656][RFC5357] are employed, the injected bogus data traffic may traverse along a different path to the one used by the targeted traffic or even interfere with them due to the subtle nature of wireless-involved links (as explained in the next subsection). ...=20 Later, under congestion detection: o almost all the time, the wireless "last mile" would be the bottleneck of end-to-end service quality. Points:=20 * The active traffic sent at different times will be traversing=20 different paths in Fig 1, just like the load-balanced user traffic through = the pools of SGSN and GGSN. * Since the wireless link usually determines the overall dataplane performance, an active and passive measurement from the same location yield very similar results. There may be other reasons to prefer active or passive techniques, but the discussion in section 2 doesn't make a clear case for passive-only. regards, Al=20 From nobody Mon Mar 3 04:49:28 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8408D1A007F for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 04:49:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.951 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.951 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, J_CHICKENPOX_42=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X11fLYA0CAsX for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 04:49:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw1.ericsson.se (mailgw1.ericsson.se [193.180.251.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com 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List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 15:37:43 -0000 Changed milestone "Submit draft on RFC 2680 standards-track advancement testing to IESG as Informational", resolved as "Done", added draft-ietf-ippm-testplan-rfc2680 to milestone. URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ippm/charter/ From nobody Tue Mar 4 07:54:55 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873EE1A005E for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 07:38:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X4SViRpt6CMD for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 07:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D5C1A01B0 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 07:38:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: ippm@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.0.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140304153831.14190.20926.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 07:38:31 -0800 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/BCObI_OEeX0z133csAYwZRJqq7I X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 07:54:44 -0800 Subject: [ippm] Milestones changed for ippm WG X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 15:38:41 -0000 Changed milestone "Submit draft on access rate measurement protocol problem statement to IESG as Informational", set due date to April 2014 from December 2013. Changed milestone "Submit draft updating the IPPM Framework (2330-update) to IESG as Proposed Standard", set due date to April 2014 from December 2013. Changed milestone "Submit draft on reference path for measurement location to IESG as Informational", set due date to April 2014 from December 2013. Changed milestone "Submit draft on OWAMP / TWAMP Security to IESG as Proposed Standard", set due date to April 2014 from December 2013. Changed milestone "Submit draft on model-based TCP bulk transfer capacity metrics to IESG as Experimental", set due date to July 2014 from March 2014. URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ippm/charter/ From nobody Tue Mar 4 07:54:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADC21A01DD for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 07:40:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HeyQqrww60uD for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 07:40:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44041A01EE for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 07:40:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: ippm@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.0.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140304154012.9668.28857.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 07:40:12 -0800 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/shsCZvaJ35dsjDBJUeA1CtCm4LU X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 07:54:45 -0800 Subject: [ippm] Milestones changed for ippm WG X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 15:40:16 -0000 Changed milestone "Submit draft on access rate measurement protocol problem statement to IESG as Informational", added draft-ietf-ippm-rate-problem to milestone. Changed milestone "Submit draft updating the IPPM Framework (2330-update) to IESG as Proposed Standard", added draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update to milestone. Changed milestone "Submit draft on reference path for measurement location to IESG as Informational", added draft-ietf-ippm-lmap-path to milestone. Changed milestone "Submit draft on OWAMP / TWAMP Security to IESG as Proposed Standard", added draft-ietf-ippm-ipsec to milestone. URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ippm/charter/ From nobody Tue Mar 4 07:54:59 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DEE1A0085 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 07:40:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6qumlfqwr3HP for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 07:40:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E641A0244 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 07:40:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: ippm@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.0.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140304154040.19379.25687.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 07:40:40 -0800 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/FktnNmoS-ktQ3b9dY56CrqA1MQw X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 07:54:45 -0800 Subject: [ippm] Milestones changed for ippm WG X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 15:40:54 -0000 Changed milestone "Submit draft on model-based TCP bulk transfer capacity metrics to IESG as Experimental", added draft-ietf-ippm-model-based-metrics to milestone. URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ippm/charter/ From nobody Tue Mar 4 08:08:02 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328841A00A3 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 08:08:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9U9ONdD8RYoy for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 08:07:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from trammell.ch (trammell1.nine.ch [5.148.172.66]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C51E1A00F5 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 08:07:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-9fd0.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-9fd0.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.159.208]) by trammell.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D8E141A0034 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 17:07:23 +0100 (CET) From: Brian Trammell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 16:07:21 +0000 References: <896D85AC-AECB-46CD-8A76-0C5374847AA9@tik.ee.ethz.ch> To: ippm@ietf.org Message-Id: <5756958A-DC91-4EE6-AB1F-AEE3ABB4C592@trammell.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/POFeluNWv9Y1J9h24KJeMCq6nmw Subject: [ippm] Fwd: Call for adoption: IPPM Registry Drafts X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 16:08:01 -0000 Greetings, all, At yesterday's IPPM WG meeting in London, we started a call for adoption = on the following three drafts as working group items in support of our = charter item to define a performance metric registry. draft-manyfolks-ippm-metric-registry-00 draft-mornuley-ippm-registry-active-00 draft-akhter-ippm-registry-passive-01 There was clear consensus in the room to adopt, with the understanding = that possible questions about the scope of the metrics defined in this = registry would need to be addressed in the working group and across = areas.=20 I would propose the following milestones: Aug 2014 Submit draft on core registry for performance metrics to IESG = as Proposed Standard Aug 2014 Submit draft on registry for active performance metrics to IESG = as Proposed Standard Dec 2014 Submit draft on registry for passive performance metrics to = IESG as Proposed Standard This would give us about six months (and one meeting) to discuss core = and active registry issues, and nine months (two meetings) for passive = issues.=20 We'd like to hear any comments on adoption from those not in the room, = and/or additional comments from all (especially on milestones and = timing) until next Tuesday 11 March 2014. 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Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAFB1A034F for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 23:52:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_AT=0.424, HOST_EQ_AT=0.745, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4xGlbyLLfZAF for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 23:52:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.zserv.tuwien.ac.at (mail1.zserv.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.35.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC351A0110 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 23:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.131.88.241] (priamos.ibk.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.88.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail1.zserv.tuwien.ac.at (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s257qJFp016311 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Mar 2014 08:52:19 +0100 Message-ID: <5316D7B1.6070708@tuwien.ac.at> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 08:52:17 +0100 From: Joachim Fabini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Trammell , ippm@ietf.org References: <896D85AC-AECB-46CD-8A76-0C5374847AA9@tik.ee.ethz.ch> <5756958A-DC91-4EE6-AB1F-AEE3ABB4C592@trammell.ch> In-Reply-To: <5756958A-DC91-4EE6-AB1F-AEE3ABB4C592@trammell.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/_Z-5YYNEf8xQFlYCtVMPqm_vQW0 Subject: Re: [ippm] Fwd: Call for adoption: IPPM Registry Drafts X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 07:52:28 -0000 Brian, IPPM, being one of the off-liners I support the call for adoption. Two comments: 1. I DO support a metric registry which goes beyond the scope of IPPM. There should be one central-point-of-contact where users and other organizations can search for registries. Imho central topics with this respect: (a) to find out if the IETF process allows for this broad registry scope as mentioned during the meeting for the case of MPLS. I'm sure that there are other groups, too, defining metrics which fit into the registry. For instance SIP signaling metrics (RFC6076) might be another candidate, BMWG has, for sure, to add some more... (b) to conduct a survey on which WGs would be affected, if/how their requirements impact on the registry structure and how this input could be gathered and fed into the registry design process. 2. Registries for active and passive metrics should be aligned to each other, i.e., share as much as possible of structure and names. For instance consider the Packet-Type-P column for active measurements and the Filter Criteria column for passive measurements. These two imho might denote the same concept with Packet-Type-P being formally defined in RFC2330. However, filtering considers also packet content (runtime information) as opposed to Packet-Type-P, which (iirc) affects only packet protocol/type/control information. It might be also interesting to discuss to which extent sampling for passive measurements and traffic generation for active measurements use/share identical methodologies and algorithms. A framework document for passive measurements would help tremendously. Summarizing: the broader the scope of the registry documents is, the higher the registry value to (IETF-internal and -external) users will be. Naming and structure of active and passive registries should be aligned if feasible, commonalities worked out. Having no passive measurements framework document yet, my feeling is that the proposed time schedule is pretty tight. The content of a (future) passive measurement RFC will likely influence on the registry structure. I might be desirable to start work on the passive measurement framework draft in parallel to the registry design... jm2c, best regards Joachim On 04.03.2014 17:07, Brian Trammell wrote: > Greetings, all, > > At yesterday's IPPM WG meeting in London, we started a call for adoption on the following three drafts as working group items in support of our charter item to define a performance metric registry. > > draft-manyfolks-ippm-metric-registry-00 > > draft-mornuley-ippm-registry-active-00 > > draft-akhter-ippm-registry-passive-01 > > There was clear consensus in the room to adopt, with the understanding that possible questions about the scope of the metrics defined in this registry would need to be addressed in the working group and across areas. > > I would propose the following milestones: > > Aug 2014 Submit draft on core registry for performance metrics to IESG as Proposed Standard > Aug 2014 Submit draft on registry for active performance metrics to IESG as Proposed Standard > Dec 2014 Submit draft on registry for passive performance metrics to IESG as Proposed Standard > > This would give us about six months (and one meeting) to discuss core and active registry issues, and nine months (two meetings) for passive issues. > > We'd like to hear any comments on adoption from those not in the room, and/or additional comments from all (especially on milestones and timing) until next Tuesday 11 March 2014. > > Thanks, best regards, > > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > From nobody Wed Mar 5 06:56:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FB01A025A for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 06:56:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NzKxYC7ITX47 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 06:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcmail13.telekom.de (tcmail13.telekom.de [80.149.113.165]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0271A0448 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 06:56:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from he113472.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.134.93.130]) by tcmail11.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 05 Mar 2014 15:56:09 +0100 Received: from HE111643.EMEA1.CDS.T-INTERNAL.COM ([169.254.3.78]) by HE113472.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([::1]) with mapi; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 15:56:09 +0100 From: To: , Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 15:56:07 +0100 Thread-Topic: Comment on model based metrics Thread-Index: Ac84gwopK+iNeR05R4i7PVsc7Iws7A== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, de-DE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CA7A7C64CC4ADB458B74477EA99DF6F5026B001885HE111643EMEA1_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/ZMYoEw--nW-VyjzlSh9kjyPhGns Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] Comment on model based metrics X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 14:56:17 -0000 --_000_CA7A7C64CC4ADB458B74477EA99DF6F5026B001885HE111643EMEA1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Matt, hi Al, about pass/fail conditions, I'd suggest to run a test with at least 5 times= target_run_length packets. The relevant measurement parameter is loss dist= ance, which is to be target_run_lenth or more to produce a pass. By repeati= ng te measurement 5 times, there should be a reliable result. There may be = a point in ignoring packets before and after the first or last loss respect= ively, if the number is below target_run_length Regards, Ruediger --_000_CA7A7C64CC4ADB458B74477EA99DF6F5026B001885HE111643EMEA1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Matt, hi Al,
 
about pass/fail conditions, I’d suggest to run a test with at le= ast 5 times target_run_length packets. The relevant measurement parameter i= s loss distance, which is to be target_run_lenth or more to produce a pass.= By repeating te measurement 5 times, there should be a reliable result. There may be a point in ignoring packets= before and after the first or last loss respectively, if the number is bel= ow target_run_length
 
Regards,
 
Ruediger
 
 --_000_CA7A7C64CC4ADB458B74477EA99DF6F5026B001885HE111643EMEA1_-- From nobody Wed Mar 5 07:05:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF791A065E for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 07:05:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h6RL7mN7taTC for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 07:05:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pink.research.att.com (mail-pink.research.att.com [204.178.8.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565EB1A0694 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 07:05:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-green.research.att.com (H-135-207-255-15.research.att.com [135.207.255.15]) by mail-pink.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C843A1205B2; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 10:09:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from njfpsrvexg8.research.att.com (unknown [135.207.255.242]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC078E2B51; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 10:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from NJFPSRVEXG8.research.att.com ([fe80::cdea:b3f6:3efa:1841]) by njfpsrvexg8.research.att.com ([fe80::cdea:b3f6:3efa:1841%13]) with mapi; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 10:05:13 -0500 From: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" To: "Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de" , "mattmathis@google.com" Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 10:01:05 -0500 Thread-Topic: Comment on model based metrics Thread-Index: Ac84gwopK+iNeR05R4i7PVsc7Iws7AAALFkE Message-ID: <2845723087023D4CB5114223779FA9C80178E0CCB1@njfpsrvexg8.research.att.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/CTBgrWIL1V0PclQ5kCA_Ei46Q88 Cc: "ippm@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ippm] Comment on model based metrics X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 15:05:38 -0000 Thanks for the comment, Rudi. We examined some minimum test lengths on graphs presented in Berlin last ye= ar, for the SPRT approach. They are worth a look. We need to do the same for the alternative statistical approach Matt and Al= ex suggested this time - they will have different minimum test lengths because= they=20 start from different assumptions. Al=20 ________________________________________ From: Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de [Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 9:56 AM To: mattmathis@google.com; MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: Comment on model based metrics Hi Matt, hi Al, about pass/fail conditions, I=92d suggest to run a test with at least 5 tim= es target_run_length packets. The relevant measurement parameter is loss di= stance, which is to be target_run_lenth or more to produce a pass. By repea= ting te measurement 5 times, there should be a reliable result. There may b= e a point in ignoring packets before and after the first or last loss respe= ctively, if the number is below target_run_length Regards, Ruediger From nobody Tue Mar 11 13:59:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6129F1A07FA for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:59:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DxVs1R2eq2gJ for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trammell.ch (trammell1.nine.ch [5.148.172.66]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8688C1A0808 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.27.100] (cust-integra-122-165.antanet.ch [80.75.122.165]) by trammell.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C0891A108B for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:59:19 +0100 (CET) From: Brian Trammell Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_12750E8A-F538-455D-A6DC-A6D09FD159E9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Message-Id: <1A21D41F-433C-45DE-BFD5-5651821953F5@trammell.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:59:16 +0100 References: <896D85AC-AECB-46CD-8A76-0C5374847AA9@tik.ee.ethz.ch> <5756958A-DC91-4EE6-AB1F-AEE3ABB4C592@trammell.ch> To: ippm@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <5756958A-DC91-4EE6-AB1F-AEE3ABB4C592@trammell.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/mg6glL7z-yRVc2f389WXvApADIg Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for adoption: IPPM Registry Drafts X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 20:59:30 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_12750E8A-F538-455D-A6DC-A6D09FD159E9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, all, As there has been no negative comment since our meeting in London, I see = clear consensus in the IPPM WG to adopt these three drafts for the = registry definition charter item (paragraph 7 of the charter item). Authors, please submit working group revisions of these documents: draft-ietf-ippm-registry for draft-manyfolks-ippm-metric-registry-00 draft-ietf-ippm-registry-active for = draft-mornuley-ippm-registry-active-00 draft-ietf-ippm-registry-passive for = draft-akhter-ippm-registry-passive-01 The work of the registry design team is now concluded; many, many thanks = for putting together a strong basis for work on the registry within the = WG! Best regards, Brian On 04 Mar 2014, at 17:07, Brian Trammell wrote: > Greetings, all, >=20 > At yesterday's IPPM WG meeting in London, we started a call for = adoption on the following three drafts as working group items in support = of our charter item to define a performance metric registry. >=20 > draft-manyfolks-ippm-metric-registry-00 >=20 > draft-mornuley-ippm-registry-active-00 >=20 > draft-akhter-ippm-registry-passive-01 >=20 > There was clear consensus in the room to adopt, with the understanding = that possible questions about the scope of the metrics defined in this = registry would need to be addressed in the working group and across = areas.=20 >=20 > I would propose the following milestones: >=20 > Aug 2014 Submit draft on core registry for performance metrics to IESG = as Proposed Standard > Aug 2014 Submit draft on registry for active performance metrics to = IESG as Proposed Standard > Dec 2014 Submit draft on registry for passive performance metrics to = IESG as Proposed Standard >=20 > This would give us about six months (and one meeting) to discuss core = and active registry issues, and nine months (two meetings) for passive = issues.=20 >=20 > We'd like to hear any comments on adoption from those not in the room, = and/or additional comments from all (especially on milestones and = timing) until next Tuesday 11 March 2014. >=20 > Thanks, best regards, >=20 > Brian >=20 --Apple-Mail=_12750E8A-F538-455D-A6DC-A6D09FD159E9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; 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Thu, 13 Mar 2014 02:22:54 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA408-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.40) by lhreml406-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.243) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 02:23:43 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.15]) by SZXEMA408-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.40]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 10:23:41 +0800 From: Vero Zheng To: Joachim Fabini , Brian Trammell , "ippm@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [ippm] Fwd: Call for adoption: IPPM Registry Drafts Thread-Index: AQHPN8Pv1q9sXyRmSUmwlvOxDSPs95rRmgSAgAy1e5A= Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 02:23:40 +0000 Message-ID: <2EEA459CD95CCB4988BFAFC0F2287B5C5C804920@SZXEMA504-MBS.china.huawei.com> References: <896D85AC-AECB-46CD-8A76-0C5374847AA9@tik.ee.ethz.ch> <5756958A-DC91-4EE6-AB1F-AEE3ABB4C592@trammell.ch> <5316D7B1.6070708@tuwien.ac.at> In-Reply-To: <5316D7B1.6070708@tuwien.ac.at> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.98.115] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/jWe-ksmUhKJQ1I1RH5x9g8BikwY Subject: Re: [ippm] Fwd: Call for adoption: IPPM Registry Drafts X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 02:23:57 -0000 > Having no passive measurements framework document yet, my feeling is that > the proposed time schedule is pretty tight. The content of a > (future) passive measurement RFC will likely influence on the registry st= ructure. > I might be desirable to start work on the passive measurement framework > draft in parallel to the registry design... +1 I also see there is requirement from service provider, both on passive meas= urement methodology and metrics. And I also see there's people working on i= t in IPPM. I actually had a talk with Brian in London and Brian also see the importanc= e of a passive measurement framework. I'm personally interested in working = on this, and plan to submit the 00 framework draft before Toronto meeting. = People who has interest please contact me offline. BR, Vero > -----Original Message----- > From: ippm [mailto:ippm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joachim Fabini > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 3:52 PM > To: Brian Trammell; ippm@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [ippm] Fwd: Call for adoption: IPPM Registry Drafts >=20 > Brian, IPPM, >=20 > being one of the off-liners I support the call for adoption. > Two comments: >=20 > 1. I DO support a metric registry which goes beyond the scope of IPPM. > There should be one central-point-of-contact where users and other > organizations can search for registries. Imho central topics with this > respect: > (a) to find out if the IETF process allows for this broad registry scope = as > mentioned during the meeting for the case of MPLS. I'm sure that there ar= e > other groups, too, defining metrics which fit into the registry. For inst= ance SIP > signaling metrics (RFC6076) might be another candidate, BMWG has, for sur= e, > to add some more... > (b) to conduct a survey on which WGs would be affected, if/how their > requirements impact on the registry structure and how this input could be > gathered and fed into the registry design process. >=20 > 2. Registries for active and passive metrics should be aligned to each ot= her, i.e., > share as much as possible of structure and names. For instance consider t= he > Packet-Type-P column for active measurements and the Filter Criteria colu= mn > for passive measurements. These two imho might denote the same concept > with Packet-Type-P being formally defined in RFC2330. However, filtering > considers also packet content (runtime > information) as opposed to Packet-Type-P, which (iirc) affects only packe= t > protocol/type/control information. > It might be also interesting to discuss to which extent sampling for pass= ive > measurements and traffic generation for active measurements use/share > identical methodologies and algorithms. A framework document for passive > measurements would help tremendously. >=20 > Summarizing: the broader the scope of the registry documents is, the high= er > the registry value to (IETF-internal and -external) users will be. Naming= and > structure of active and passive registries should be aligned if feasible, > commonalities worked out. > Having no passive measurements framework document yet, my feeling is that > the proposed time schedule is pretty tight. The content of a > (future) passive measurement RFC will likely influence on the registry st= ructure. > I might be desirable to start work on the passive measurement framework > draft in parallel to the registry design... >=20 > jm2c, > best regards > Joachim >=20 > On 04.03.2014 17:07, Brian Trammell wrote: > > Greetings, all, > > > > At yesterday's IPPM WG meeting in London, we started a call for adoptio= n on > the following three drafts as working group items in support of our chart= er item > to define a performance metric registry. > > > > draft-manyfolks-ippm-metric-registry-00 > > > > draft-mornuley-ippm-registry-active-00 > > > > draft-akhter-ippm-registry-passive-01 > > > > There was clear consensus in the room to adopt, with the understanding = that > possible questions about the scope of the metrics defined in this registr= y would > need to be addressed in the working group and across areas. > > > > I would propose the following milestones: > > > > Aug 2014 Submit draft on core registry for performance metrics to IESG > > as Proposed Standard Aug 2014 Submit draft on registry for active > > performance metrics to IESG as Proposed Standard Dec 2014 Submit draft > > on registry for passive performance metrics to IESG as Proposed > > Standard > > > > This would give us about six months (and one meeting) to discuss core a= nd > active registry issues, and nine months (two meetings) for passive issues= . > > > > We'd like to hear any comments on adoption from those not in the room, > and/or additional comments from all (especially on milestones and timing)= until > next Tuesday 11 March 2014. > > > > Thanks, best regards, > > > > Brian > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ippm mailing list > > ippm@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From nobody Thu Mar 13 17:42:23 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7807F1A0760 for ; 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boundary=047d7b66f5fb197dae04f4865729 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/-5--SeiVgSTX4hRdV2tQMj7oE2M Cc: "ippm@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ippm] Fwd: Call for adoption: IPPM Registry Drafts X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 00:42:20 -0000 --047d7b66f5fb197dae04f4865729 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi vero, i would be happy to be involved. as expressed earlier, i believe there are cases where passive measurement is expected to be more helpful. lingli Vero Zheng =D3=DA2014=C4=EA3=D4=C213=C8=D5=D0=C7=C6= =DA=CB=C4=D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA >> Having no passive measurements framework document yet, my feeling is tha= t >> the proposed time schedule is pretty tight. The content of a >> (future) passive measurement RFC will likely influence on the registry structure. >> I might be desirable to start work on the passive measurement framework >> draft in parallel to the registry design... > > +1 > I also see there is requirement from service provider, both on passive measurement methodology and metrics. And I also see there's people working on it in IPPM. > I actually had a talk with Brian in London and Brian also see the importance of a passive measurement framework. I'm personally interested in working on this, and plan to submit the 00 framework draft before Toronto meeting. People who has interest please contact me offline. > > BR, > Vero > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ippm [mailto:ippm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joachim Fabini >> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 3:52 PM >> To: Brian Trammell; ippm@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [ippm] Fwd: Call for adoption: IPPM Registry Drafts >> >> Brian, IPPM, >> >> being one of the off-liners I support the call for adoption. >> Two comments: >> >> 1. I DO support a metric registry which goes beyond the scope of IPPM. >> There should be one central-point-of-contact where users and other >> organizations can search for registries. Imho central topics with this >> respect: >> (a) to find out if the IETF process allows for this broad registry scope as >> mentioned during the meeting for the case of MPLS. I'm sure that there are >> other groups, too, defining metrics which fit into the registry. For instance SIP >> signaling metrics (RFC6076) might be another candidate, BMWG has, for sure, >> to add some more... >> (b) to conduct a survey on which WGs would be affected, if/how their >> requirements impact on the registry structure and how this input could b= e >> gathered and fed into the registry design process. >> >> 2. Registries for active and passive metrics should be aligned to each other, i.e., >> share as much as possible of structure and names. For instance consider the >> Packet-Type-P column for active measurements and the Filter Criteria column >> for passive measurements. These two imho might denote the same concept >> with Packet-Type-P being formally defined in RFC2330. However, filtering >> considers also packet content (runtime >> information) as opposed to Packet-Type-P, which (iirc) affects only packet >> protocol/type/control information. >> It might be also interesting to discuss to which extent sampling for passive >> measurements and traffic generation for active measurements use/share >> identical methodologies and algorithms. A framework document for passive >> measurements would help tremendously. >> >> Summarizing: the broader the scope of the registry documents is, the higher >> the registry value to (IETF-internal and -external) users will be. Naming and >> structure of active and passive registries should be aligned if feasible= , >> commonalities worked out. >> Having no passive measurements framework document yet, my feeling is tha= t >> the proposed time schedule is pretty tight. The content of a >> (future) passive measurement RFC will likely influence on the registry structure. >> I might be desirable to start work on the passive measurement framework >> draft in parallel to the registry design... >> >> jm2c, >> best regards >> Joachim >> >> On 04.03.2014 17:07, Brian Trammell wrote: >> > Greetings, all, >> > >> > At yesterday's IPPM WG meeting in London, we started a call for adoption on >> the following three drafts as working group items in support of our charter item >> to define a performance metric registry. >> > >> > draft-manyfolks-ippm-metric-registry-00 >> > >> > draft-mornuley-ippm-registry-active-00 >> > >> > draft-akhter-ippm-registry-passive-01 >> > >> > There was clear consensus in the room to adopt, with the understanding that >> possible questions about the scope of the metrics defined in this registry would >> need to be addressed in the working group and across areas. >> > >> > I would propose the following milestones: >> > >> > Aug 2014 Submit draft on core registry for performance metrics to IESG >> > as Proposed Standard Aug 2014 Submit draft on registry for active >> > performance metrics to IESG as Proposed Standard Dec 2014 Submit draft >> > on registry for passive performance metrics to IESG as Proposed >> > Standard >> > >> > This would give us about six months (and one meeting) to discuss core and >> active registry issues, and nine months (two meetings) for passive issues. >> > >> > We'd like to hear any comments on adoption from those not in the room, >> and/or additional comments from all (especially on milestones and timing) until >> next Tuesday 11 March 2014. >> > >> > Thanks, best regards, >> > >> > Brian >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > ippm mailing list > --=20 =B5=CB=C1=E9=C0=F2/Lingli Deng =D6=D0=B9=FA=D2=C6=B6=AF=CD=A8=D0=C5=D1=D0=BE=BF=D4=BA/China Mobile Researc= h Institute e-mail: denglingli@chinamobile.com tel: 15801696688-3367 mobile: 13810597148 --047d7b66f5fb197dae04f4865729 Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi vero,

i would be happy to be involved.
as expressed earlier, i= believe there are cases where passive measurement is expected to be more h= elpful.

lingli

Vero Zheng <vero.zheng@huawei.com>=D3=DA2014=C4=EA3=D4=C213=C8=D5=D0= =C7=C6=DA=CB=C4=D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA
>> Having no passive measurements framework document yet, my feeling = is that
>> the proposed time schedule is pretty tight. The content= of a
>> (future) passive measurement RFC will likely influence on= the registry structure.
>> I might be desirable to start work on the passive measurement fram= ework
>> draft in parallel to the registry design...
>
&g= t; +1
> I also see there is requirement from service provider, both o= n passive measurement methodology and metrics. And I also see there's p= eople working on it in IPPM.
> I actually had a talk with Brian in London and Brian also see the impo= rtance of a passive measurement framework. I'm personally interested in= working on this, and plan to submit the 00 framework draft before Toronto = meeting. People who has interest please contact me offline.
>
> BR,
> Vero
>
>> -----Original Message----= -
>> From: ippm [mailto:i= ppm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joachim Fabini
>> Sent: Wed= nesday, March 05, 2014 3:52 PM
>> To: Brian Trammell; ippm@ietf.org=
>> Subject: Re: [ippm] Fwd: Call for adoption: IPPM Registry = Drafts
>>
>> Brian, IPPM,
>>
>> being o= ne of the off-liners I support the call for adoption.
>> Two comments:
>>
>> 1. I DO support a metric reg= istry which goes beyond the scope of IPPM.
>> There should be one = central-point-of-contact where users and other
>> organizations ca= n search for registries. Imho central topics with this
>> respect:
>> (a) to find out if the IETF process allows fo= r this broad registry scope as
>> mentioned during the meeting for= the case of MPLS. I'm sure that there are
>> other groups, to= o, defining metrics which fit into the registry. For instance SIP
>> signaling metrics (RFC6076) might be another candidate, BMWG has, = for sure,
>> to add some more...
>> (b) to conduct a surv= ey on which WGs would be affected, if/how their
>> requirements im= pact on the registry structure and how this input could be
>> gathered and fed into the registry design process.
>>
= >> 2. Registries for active and passive metrics should be aligned to = each other, i.e.,
>> share as much as possible of structure and na= mes. For instance consider the
>> Packet-Type-P column for active measurements and the Filter Criter= ia column
>> for passive measurements. These two imho might denote= the same concept
>> with Packet-Type-P being formally defined in = RFC2330. However, filtering
>> considers also packet content (runtime
>> information) as= opposed to Packet-Type-P, which (iirc) affects only packet
>> pro= tocol/type/control information.
>> It might be also interesting to= discuss to which extent sampling for passive
>> measurements and traffic generation for active measurements use/sh= are
>> identical methodologies and algorithms. A framework documen= t for passive
>> measurements would help tremendously.
>>=
>> Summarizing: the broader the scope of the registry documents is, t= he higher
>> the registry value to (IETF-internal and -external) u= sers will be. Naming and
>> structure of active and passive regist= ries should be aligned if feasible,
>> commonalities worked out.
>> Having no passive measuremen= ts framework document yet, my feeling is that
>> the proposed time= schedule is pretty tight. The content of a
>> (future) passive me= asurement RFC will likely influence on the registry structure.
>> I might be desirable to start work on the passive measurement fram= ework
>> draft in parallel to the registry design...
>>>> jm2c,
>> best regards
>> Joachim
>> >> On 04.03.2014 17:07, Brian Trammell wrote:
>> > Greeti= ngs, all,
>> >
>> > At yesterday's IPPM WG meet= ing in London, we started a call for adoption on
>> the following = three drafts as working group items in support of our charter item
>> to define a performance metric registry.
>> >
>&= gt; > draft-manyfolks-ippm-metric-registry-00
>> >
>&g= t; > draft-mornuley-ippm-registry-active-00
>> >
>>= > draft-akhter-ippm-registry-passive-01
>> >
>> > There was clear consensus in the room to ado= pt, with the understanding that
>> possible questions about the sc= ope of the metrics defined in this registry would
>> need to be ad= dressed in the working group and across areas.
>> >
>> > I would propose the following milestones:>> >
>> > Aug 2014 Submit draft on core registry for = performance metrics to IESG
>> > as Proposed Standard Aug 2014 = Submit draft on registry for active
>> > performance metrics to IESG as Proposed Standard Dec 2014 Sub= mit draft
>> > on registry for passive performance metrics to I= ESG as Proposed
>> > Standard
>> >
>> >= This would give us about six months (and one meeting) to discuss core and<= br> >> active registry issues, and nine months (two meetings) for passive= issues.
>> >
>> > We'd like to hear any commen= ts on adoption from those not in the room,
>> and/or additional co= mments from all (especially on milestones and timing) until
>> next Tuesday 11 March 2014.
>> >
>> > Than= ks, best regards,
>> >
>> > Brian
>> ><= br>>> > _______________________________________________
>>= ; > ippm mailing list
>

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e-mail= : denglingli@chinamobile.com<= /a>
tel: 15801696688-3367
mobile: 13810597148

--047d7b66f5fb197dae04f4865729-- From nobody Thu Mar 13 18:09:41 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46301A07B8 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 18:09:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.151 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.151 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z2xLwcRDx4Ez for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 18:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-x22a.google.com (mail-vc0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22a]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1468D1A07B1 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 18:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hu19so2023164vcb.15 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 18:09:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/5CbNefwJ1nbIPl3xQmFi2PVvhMuBW9a1AGvmPzGELQ=; b=nUuie73nE+/+kliMYY21Utu6wgGhdrT1LR1Otr9Ha6+VjuKCvsGrqvrPPn9bv3xvLK pW4sy60OlPmNDrB75n67JF91YMviPwjv0H5Vn7v9qYLUt2SuMuNRmOaiIJ8R0kWu7iQD xE5c+AAaoGD/98YPENv6868SBY9bAI2b/sCJOi2gEmjkUoZHktz5wTFMiPLn8QboWA6J r5uk1A+cD/GPfvO7Usr8OuBRQ9KLk/0L7mVWCBSXRpVPZqjKoRSjkuKKoXQvTFI+JV5m pGL0O4R/E1csZ+ofsv31NbNJclhrUusdeY8Pm0xjI1/idxGIgc8mCWiDIi5GLmNeFcUF WM5A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.38.166 with SMTP id h6mr3936540vek.22.1394759371260; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 18:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.100.212 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 18:09:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2845723087023D4CB5114223779FA9C80176B69163@njfpsrvexg8.research.att.com> References: <2845723087023D4CB5114223779FA9C80176B69163@njfpsrvexg8.research.att.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 09:09:31 +0800 Message-ID: From: lingli deng To: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013a0d40df098004f486b8a5 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/5kHZROnybwBzaNPn74XW-l8h0VU Cc: "ippm@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ippm] comments on draft-deng-ippm-wireless X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 01:09:40 -0000 --089e013a0d40df098004f486b8a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alfred, Thanks for your comments. It is really nice for you to read it through in such careful way. However, the usecases are meant to be interpreted independently. Yes I agree that, under most cases, since the wireless is likely to be the bottleneck, pooling would not matter much. But that would not exclude the necessity of passive measurement for pooled devices, since something unusual happeded on the wired part is actually what we might be able to take immediate measures to respond. Lingli MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) =D3=DA2014=C4=EA3=D4=C23=C8=D5=D0= =C7=C6=DA=D2=BB=D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA > IPPM, > > comments on draft-deng-ippm-wireless > > In section 2: > > Under Dynamic Load Balancing: > > Figure 1: Active Measuring Traffic versus Actual Traffic in case of > Device Pooling > > Hence, under such environments, if active performance measurement > methods[RFC4656][RFC5357] are employed, the injected bogus data > traffic may traverse along a different path to the one used by the > targeted traffic or even interfere with them due to the subtle nature > of wireless-involved links (as explained in the next subsection). > ... > > Later, under congestion detection: > o almost all the time, the wireless "last mile" would be the > bottleneck of end-to-end service quality. > > Points: > * The active traffic sent at different times will be traversing > different paths in Fig 1, just like the load-balanced user traffic through the > pools of SGSN and GGSN. > > * Since the wireless link usually determines the overall dataplane > performance, an active and passive measurement from the same location > yield very similar results. > > There may be other reasons to prefer active or passive techniques, > but the discussion in section 2 doesn't make a clear case for passive-only. > > regards, > Al > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > --=20 =B5=CB=C1=E9=C0=F2/Lingli Deng =D6=D0=B9=FA=D2=C6=B6=AF=CD=A8=D0=C5=D1=D0=BE=BF=D4=BA/China Mobile Researc= h Institute e-mail: denglingli@chinamobile.com tel: 15801696688-3367 mobile: 13810597148 --089e013a0d40df098004f486b8a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alfred,

Thanks for your comments.
It is really nice for you to= read it through in such careful way.
However, the usecases are meant to= be interpreted independently.
Yes I agree that, under most cases, since= the wireless is likely to be the bottleneck, pooling would not matter much= .
But that would not exclude the necessity of passive measurement for pooled = devices, since something unusual happeded on the wired part is actually wha= t we might be able to take immediate measures to respond.

Lingli


MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acmor= ton@att.com>=D3=DA2014=C4=EA3=D4=C23=C8=D5=D0=C7=C6=DA=D2=BB=D0=B4= =B5=C0=A3=BA
> IPPM,
>
> comments on draft-deng-ippm-wire= less
>
> In section 2:
>
> Under Dynamic Load Balan= cing:
>
>    Figure 1: Active Measuring Traffic versus Actual = Traffic in case of
>              =                 Device Pooling
= >
>    Hence, under such environments, if active perform= ance measurement
>    methods[RFC4656][RFC5357] are employed, the injected bogu= s data
>    traffic may traverse along a different path to = the one used by the
>    targeted traffic or even interfere= with them due to the subtle nature
>    of wireless-involved links (as explained in the next subs= ection).
> ...
>
> Later, under congestion detection:
= >    o  almost all the time, the wireless "last mile= " would be the
>       bottleneck of end-to-end service quality.
>=
> Points:
>  * The active traffic sent at different times= will be traversing
> different paths in Fig 1, just like the load-ba= lanced user traffic through the
> pools of SGSN and GGSN.
>
>  * Since the wireless lin= k usually determines the overall dataplane
> performance, an active a= nd passive measurement from the same location
> yield very similar re= sults.
>
> There may be other reasons to prefer active or passive techniq= ues,
> but the discussion in section 2 doesn't make a clear case = for passive-only.
>
> regards,
> Al
>
> _____= __________________________________________
> ippm mailing list
> ippm@ietf.o= rg
> https= ://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm
>

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=B5=CB=C1= =E9=C0=F2/Lingli Deng
=D6=D0=B9=FA=D2=C6=B6=AF=CD=A8=D0=C5=D1=D0=BE=BF=D4=BA/China Mobile Researc= h Institute
e-mail: dengli= ngli@chinamobile.com
tel: 15801696688-3367
mobile: 13810597148
--089e013a0d40df098004f486b8a5-- From nobody Fri Mar 14 04:32:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0621A0118 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:32:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.851 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.851 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GFpmTsii7feQ for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x22d.google.com (mail-ve0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB1E1A010E for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f173.google.com with SMTP id oy12so2518858veb.18 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:31:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XReP3ZnXrdvlvsh+zQ4d/fQdQvOPnLgtx3pVBET7/hw=; b=g61vqR6atLepGEUtHoGqDP+B8fiXCjGPAT3b2T4CbMExl+fQdp2Hwp0zUIX3bUJ66q sXIAQ4S+yUFN8+y2I36hbmu+r+0t1dTCSC3EvXxKz52ZCO0Q99Awvtl30QDR2LwGXdGH Z7Uv3wQPHK8XEMzeGKp1TQrZ71+toi4VolpU3hJVoATlmVqU+l3tJJRw940b4pCc7P2M CsxMXuR6lEIvZ07rMFkTS7SMCyuyLuqzQohFH9eR1JVFLyKd2FQ5IQiIS5mxPYhQ7PD+ GMQwlj1qD6W1sKGF480rcNJ9WYKBbTtUsc4cukLUxlvWtgJBRxPcABwRS/WmjkWaqCtg 0tsA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.69.146 with SMTP id e18mr4971936vdu.15.1394796712784; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.100.212 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:31:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2845723087023D4CB5114223779FA9C80176B69163@njfpsrvexg8.research.att.com> References: <2845723087023D4CB5114223779FA9C80176B69163@njfpsrvexg8.research.att.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 19:31:52 +0800 Message-ID: From: lingli deng To: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cd0e997a2104f48f6a48 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/bHIZu-WcehlGOhbhLcmGmJvTzRk Cc: "ippm@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ippm] comments on draft-deng-ippm-wireless X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:32:02 -0000 --20cf3071cd0e997a2104f48f6a48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alfred, Thanks for your comments. It is really nice for you to read it through in such careful way. However, the usecases are meant to be interpreted independently. Yes I agree that, under most cases, since the wireless is likely to be the bottleneck, pooling would not matter much. But that would not exclude the necessity of passive measurement for pooled devices, since something unusual happeded on the wired part is actually what we might be able to take immediate measures to respond. Lingli MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) =D3=DA2014=C4=EA3=D4=C23=C8=D5=D0= =C7=C6=DA=D2=BB=D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA > IPPM, > > comments on draft-deng-ippm-wireless > > In section 2: > > Under Dynamic Load Balancing: > > Figure 1: Active Measuring Traffic versus Actual Traffic in case of > Device Pooling > > Hence, under such environments, if active performance measurement > methods[RFC4656][RFC5357] are employed, the injected bogus data > traffic may traverse along a different path to the one used by the > targeted traffic or even interfere with them due to the subtle nature > of wireless-involved links (as explained in the next subsection). > ... > > Later, under congestion detection: > o almost all the time, the wireless "last mile" would be the > bottleneck of end-to-end service quality. > > Points: > * The active traffic sent at different times will be traversing > different paths in Fig 1, just like the load-balanced user traffic through the > pools of SGSN and GGSN. > > * Since the wireless link usually determines the overall dataplane > performance, an active and passive measurement from the same location > yield very similar results. > > There may be other reasons to prefer active or passive techniques, > but the discussion in section 2 doesn't make a clear case for passive-only. > > regards, > Al > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > --=20 =B5=CB=C1=E9=C0=F2/Lingli Deng =D6=D0=B9=FA=D2=C6=B6=AF=CD=A8=D0=C5=D1=D0=BE=BF=D4=BA/China Mobile Researc= h Institute e-mail: denglingli@chinamobile.com tel: 15801696688-3367 mobile: 13810597148 --20cf3071cd0e997a2104f48f6a48 Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alfred,

Thanks for your comments.
It is really nice for you to= read it through in such careful way.
However, the usecases are meant to= be interpreted independently.
Yes I agree that, under most cases, since= the wireless is likely to be the bottleneck, pooling would not matter much= .
But that would not exclude the necessity of passive measurement for pooled = devices, since something unusual happeded on the wired part is actually wha= t we might be able to take immediate measures to respond.

Lingli


MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acmor= ton@att.com>=D3=DA2014=C4=EA3=D4=C23=C8=D5=D0=C7=C6=DA=D2=BB=D0=B4= =B5=C0=A3=BA
> IPPM,
>
> comments on draft-deng-ippm-wire= less
>
> In section 2:
>
> Under Dynamic Load Balan= cing:
>
>    Figure 1: Active Measuring Traffic versus Actual = Traffic in case of
>              =                 Device Pooling
= >
>    Hence, under such environments, if active perform= ance measurement
>    methods[RFC4656][RFC5357] are employed, the injected bogu= s data
>    traffic may traverse along a different path to = the one used by the
>    targeted traffic or even interfere= with them due to the subtle nature
>    of wireless-involved links (as explained in the next subs= ection).
> ...
>
> Later, under congestion detection:
= >    o  almost all the time, the wireless "last mile= " would be the
>       bottleneck of end-to-end service quality.
>=
> Points:
>  * The active traffic sent at different times= will be traversing
> different paths in Fig 1, just like the load-ba= lanced user traffic through the
> pools of SGSN and GGSN.
>
>  * Since the wireless lin= k usually determines the overall dataplane
> performance, an active a= nd passive measurement from the same location
> yield very similar re= sults.
>
> There may be other reasons to prefer active or passive techniq= ues,
> but the discussion in section 2 doesn't make a clear case = for passive-only.
>
> regards,
> Al
>
> _____= __________________________________________
> ippm mailing list
> ippm@ietf.o= rg
> https= ://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm
>

--
=B5=CB=C1= =E9=C0=F2/Lingli Deng
=D6=D0=B9=FA=D2=C6=B6=AF=CD=A8=D0=C5=D1=D0=BE=BF=D4=BA/China Mobile Researc= h Institute
e-mail: dengli= ngli@chinamobile.com
tel: 15801696688-3367
mobile: 13810597148
--20cf3071cd0e997a2104f48f6a48-- From nobody Tue Mar 18 08:58:53 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731BA1A0706 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 08:58:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D2AEJCClqZKl for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 08:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA001A06FB for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 08:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id A830F20EBC for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web1 ([10.202.2.211]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:58:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=V+rBZXD6ddFFpNfad8KDPgAiHyI=; b=EQT/QXoG8EK7B8eNl6tCoa4ZY/mC HpPdEVbionaWk+yD5K125SABZHBQvwj1XT7vWKaJgBHgOZ6CgGfpNJsehl2Inhwv CzyTe+5898issifHlkFTgTwiM9ufrG53a2Q/Hg7BtqxzNojOXi33Xnc5RBFsLvAK Q+PkfgfkB7uDNCc= Received: by web1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 8A63BF000FE; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1395158320.25545.95956117.01977BF4@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: Dl9O5mVImARZTn0mdS3+eeiVJ5neT0eqnLx/IL9Oj1EY 1395158320 From: William Cerveny To: ippm@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-6e382e84 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:58:40 -0400 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/etYqdGdT68ElgEUO3dckgGlvpFE Subject: [ippm] Draft minutes for IPPM at IETF-89 posted X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:58:51 -0000 The draft minutes for the IPPM working group meeting at IETF 89 (March 3, 2014) have been posted at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/minutes/minutes-89-ippm . Many thanks to Reinhard Schrage and Andrew McGregor for taking, organizing and formatting the minutes. Regards, Bill Cerveny From nobody Thu Mar 20 08:01:29 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10C81A0773 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 08:17:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U4TTjW6lA3QM for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 08:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7401A075F for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 08:17:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: ippm@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.1.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140319151707.28787.82758.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 08:17:07 -0700 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/uxts2LrvvW4hILXa4Wj2a-dPkR0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 08:01:23 -0700 Subject: [ippm] Milestones changed for ippm WG X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:17:10 -0000 Changed milestone "Submit draft on core registry for performance metrics to IESG as Proposed Standard", set state to active from review, accepting new milestone. Changed milestone "Submit draft on registry for active performance metrics to IESG as Proposed Standard", set state to active from review, accepting new milestone. Changed milestone "Submit draft on registry for passive performance metrics to IESG as Proposed Standard", set state to active from review, accepting new milestone. URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ippm/charter/ From nobody Mon Mar 24 06:53:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327B61A0218; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 06:53:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k1yf7TgtMaap; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 06:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8D51A020B; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 06:53:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.2.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140324135351.24056.54510.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 06:53:51 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/lGtp8bYhLtIIiqSMx75SK64Batc Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-03.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:53:54 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework for IPPM Authors : Joachim Fabini Al Morton Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-03.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2014-03-24 Abstract: To obtain repeatable results in modern networks, test descriptions need an expanded stream parameter framework that also augments aspects specified as Type-P for test packets. This memo proposes to update the IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) Framework with advanced considerations for measurement methodology and testing. The existing framework mostly assumes deterministic connectivity, and that a single test stream will represent the characteristics of the path when it is aggregated with other flows. Networks have evolved and test stream descriptions must evolve with them, otherwise unexpected network features may dominate the measured performance. This memo describes new stream parameters for both network characterization and support of application design using IPPM metrics. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Mar 24 13:29:17 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF731A02AC for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:29:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.041 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.041 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_AT=0.424, HOST_EQ_AT=0.745, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4HBOsiZnb9HF for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.zserv.tuwien.ac.at (mail1.zserv.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.35.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A791A026C for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.131.88.241] (priamos.ibk.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.88.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail1.zserv.tuwien.ac.at (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s2OKT7m0003097 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 24 Mar 2014 21:29:07 +0100 Message-ID: <5330958E.4000403@tuwien.ac.at> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 21:29:02 +0100 From: Joachim Fabini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ippm@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ippm/w2hIoUJFJmaQnv1wIDY3zJFwyGI Subject: [ippm] New version Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework for IPPM (draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-03) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:29:14 -0000 Dear group, following the comments received at IETF89 in London we have integrated two more references into the Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework for IPPM and submitted the document as draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-03.txt The first reference describes the RLC link-layer behavior of reactive networks. Second, Kostas pointed out a scenario (flow aggregation) which is a nice example of how novel network optimization techniques can influence on the repeatability of measurement results (thanks again Kostas for your valuable input!). You can find the draft and changes using the links posted already by the automated IETF draft submission system: > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-03 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ippm-2330-update-03 regards Joachim -- --------------------------------------- Dr. Joachim Fabini Senior Scientist Institute of Telecommunications Vienna University of Technology Favoritenstraße 9/389 A-1040 Vienna, Austria Tel: +43 1 58801-38813 Fax: +43 1 58801-38898 mailto: Joachim.Fabini@tuwien.ac.at ---------------------------------------