From nobody Tue Feb 2 11:01:33 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8D61B2F70; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:01:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Alissa Cooper" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.13.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160202190130.28363.17319.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 11:01:30 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: ippm-chairs@ietf.org, acmorton@att.com, draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer@ietf.org, ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-05: (with DISCUSS) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 19:01:30 -0000 Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-05: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- There seems to be a bit of a disconnect between this text in 3.2: "As specified in Section 3.4. , the Checksum Complement should only be used in unauthenticated mode." and this text in 3.4.1: "A Checksum Complement MAY be used when authentication is enabled. In this case an intermediate entity can timestamp test packets and update their Checksum Complement field without modifying the HMAC." I can see why not to use the checksum complement in encrypted mode, but don't see why it can't be used in authenticated mode for TWAMP. 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RFC 7750 Title: Differentiated Service Code Point and Explicit Congestion Notification Monitoring in the Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) Author: J. Hedin, G. Mirsky, S. Baillargeon Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: February 2016 Mailbox: jonas.hedin@ericsson.com, gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com, steve.baillargeon@ericsson.com Pages: 11 Characters: 24296 Updates: RFC 5357 I-D Tag: draft-ietf-ippm-type-p-monitor-03.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7750 DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7750 This document describes an optional extension for Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) allowing the monitoring of the Differentiated Service Code Point and Explicit Congestion Notification fields with the TWAMP-Test protocol. This document is a product of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. 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Wed, 3 Feb 2016 06:21:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Brian Haberman" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.13.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160203142121.21002.82577.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 06:21:21 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: ippm-chairs@ietf.org, acmorton@att.com, draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer@ietf.org, ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] Brian Haberman's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-05: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:21:21 -0000 Brian Haberman has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-05: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This document lacks sufficient justification for why the checksum trailer is needed. I would suggest a brief description of when this approach is needed. 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ciBieSByZXR1cm4gZS1tYWlsLCBUaGFua3MuDQoNCg== From nobody Wed Feb 3 12:38:28 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0916D1B2C82; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:38:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ben Campbell" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.13.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160203203827.30031.3663.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 12:38:27 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: ippm-chairs@ietf.org, acmorton@att.com, draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer@ietf.org, ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-05: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 20:38:27 -0000 Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-05: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 3.2.3, 2nd paragraph: "...OWAMP/TWAMP layer SHOULD treat the Checksum Complement as part of the Packet Padding." The previous paragraph said this put no new requirements on the receiver. Is the SHOULD here a new requirement, or a statement of fact? (If the latter, it should not use the 2119 keyword.) 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X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 06:39:29 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics of the IETF. Title : UDP Checksum Complement in OWAMP and TWAMP Author : Tal Mizrahi Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-06.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2016-02-08 Abstract: The One-Way Active Measurement Protocol (OWAMP) and the Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) are used for performance monitoring in IP networks. Delay measurement is performed in these protocols by using timestamped test packets. Some implementations use hardware-based timestamping engines that integrate the accurate transmission timestamp into every outgoing OWAMP/TWAMP test packet during transmission. Since these packets are transported over UDP, the UDP checksum field is then updated to reflect this modification. This document proposes to use the last 2 octets of every test packet as a Checksum Complement, allowing timestamping engines to reflect the checksum modification in the last 2 octets rather than in the UDP checksum field. The behavior defined in this document is completely interoperable with existing OWAMP/TWAMP implementations. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Feb 9 09:01:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE601ACD39; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 09:01:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Alissa Cooper" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.14.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160209170138.15425.4003.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:01:38 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: ippm-chairs@ietf.org, acmorton@att.com, draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer@ietf.org, ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-06: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 17:01:38 -0000 Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-06: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for addressing my DISCUSS point. From nobody Tue Feb 9 09:31:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583311ACD84; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 09:31:00 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.14.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160209173100.8999.98059.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:31:00 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: ippm-chairs@ietf.org, acmorton@att.com, draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer@ietf.org, ippm@ietf.org, The IESG , rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [ippm] Document Action: 'UDP Checksum Complement in OWAMP and TWAMP' to Experimental RFC (draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-06.txt) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 17:31:00 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'UDP Checksum Complement in OWAMP and TWAMP' (draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-06.txt) as Experimental RFC This document is the product of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Spencer Dawkins and Martin Stiemerling. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer/ Technical Summary In many IP measurement protocols, timestamps are required to calculate packet transfer delay, and these timestamps occupy fields above the IP layer. When implementers prefer to avoid the delay of stack processing, it is preferred to insert the timestamps as close to the network interface as possible, but this also requires maintaining sanity among checksums and other integrity checks. This memo defines one way to assign an optional field at the end of the UDP payload of test packets to complement the timestamp and populate that field to keep checksum accuracy. Working Group Summary There has been sufficient review during 2 years of development, and the comments were both constructive and supportive of this simple idea. The draft can serve a useful purpose for the industry. Document Quality One chip vendor has implemented the procedure in the draft from a hardware perspective, and another chip vendor has indicated their plans (privately) to do the same. There are no known HW and SW implementations with TWAMP or OWAMP at this time. As far as expert reviews, there was sufficient review from the community of TWAMP experts. Personnel Al Morton is Shepherd, Spencer Dawkins is AD. 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Barbara > I support the adoption of this draft as a WG item. It is needed to create > entries for the currently defined IPPM metrics into the metric registry a= nd is > complementary to work coming out of the LMAP WG. >=20 > Jason >=20 > On 12/10/15, 8:49 AM, "ippm on behalf of Brian Trammell" > wrote: >=20 > >Greetings, all, > > > >Following support in the room for the adoption of > >draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry in Yokohama, this message starts a > >formal call for adoption of the following milestone: > > > >July 2016: submit a Standards Track document to the IESG defining > >initial contents of performance metric registry > > > >in support of paragraph 7 of our charter: > > > > Agreement about the definitions of metrics and methods of measurement > > enables accurate, reproducible, and equivalent results across > >different > > implementations. To this end, the WG will define and maintain a > >registry of > > metric definitions. The WG encourages work which assesses the > >comparability > > of measurements of IPPM metrics with metrics developed elsewhere. The > >WG > > also encourages work which improves the availability of information > >about > > the context in which measurements were taken. > > > >and to adopt draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry as the document for > >this milestone. > > > >Please express support or concerns with adopting this document by 31 > >December 2015 to the IPPM working group mailing list, ippm@ietf.org > > > >Many thanks, best regards, > > > >Brian Trammell (chair hat) >=20 >=20 > ________________________________ >=20 > This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable > proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to > copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely = for > the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the se= nder > immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-ma= il > and any printout. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm From nobody Wed Feb 17 23:41:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4453C1A8AC2 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 23:41:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.856 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.856 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y6KLOGzYON73 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 23:41:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlas3.jacobs-university.de (atlas3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 718B91A8788 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 23:41:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (demetrius5.irc-it.jacobs-university.de [10.70.0.222]) by atlas3.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686D2FEC for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:41:18 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from atlas3.jacobs-university.de ([10.70.0.220]) by localhost (demetrius5.jacobs-university.de [10.70.0.222]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id xFfCsT-cGLbb for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:41:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hermes.jacobs-university.de", Issuer "Jacobs University CA - G01" (verified OK)) by atlas3.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:41:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (demetrius4.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.49]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B2D20035 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:41:17 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius4.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IUP2V5cdjx28; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:41:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.jacobs.jacobs-university.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C702002B; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:41:15 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6685239F59F3; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:41:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:41:15 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: "ippm@ietf.org" Message-ID: <20160218074115.GA4397@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: "ippm@ietf.org" References: <2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E611425E355A@GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E611425E355A@GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for adoption: draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 07:41:23 -0000 Hi, since an empty registry is of little value, I think having a initial content defined somewhere is essential. In fact, I believe initial content _and_ at least one concrete use case example is essential in order to know that the registry itself is practically useful. I am mostly active in LMAP and not too closely following IPPM so please forgive my ignorance. But I generally do believe that a proof of practical usability is essential for good specifications. Hence, concrete metric registry examples might help to convince us that the registry is a cool thing to have or they might show us how to make the registry simpler or easier to use. /js On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 06:45:00PM +0000, STARK, BARBARA H wrote: > +1 > And I'm sorry I totally missed replying to this call in my get-ready-for-holidays frenzied mode (in December). > Barbara > > > I support the adoption of this draft as a WG item. It is needed to create > > entries for the currently defined IPPM metrics into the metric registry and is > > complementary to work coming out of the LMAP WG. > > > > Jason > > > > On 12/10/15, 8:49 AM, "ippm on behalf of Brian Trammell" > > wrote: > > > > >Greetings, all, > > > > > >Following support in the room for the adoption of > > >draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry in Yokohama, this message starts a > > >formal call for adoption of the following milestone: > > > > > >July 2016: submit a Standards Track document to the IESG defining > > >initial contents of performance metric registry > > > > > >in support of paragraph 7 of our charter: > > > > > > Agreement about the definitions of metrics and methods of measurement > > > enables accurate, reproducible, and equivalent results across > > >different > > > implementations. To this end, the WG will define and maintain a > > >registry of > > > metric definitions. The WG encourages work which assesses the > > >comparability > > > of measurements of IPPM metrics with metrics developed elsewhere. The > > >WG > > > also encourages work which improves the availability of information > > >about > > > the context in which measurements were taken. > > > > > >and to adopt draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry as the document for > > >this milestone. > > > > > >Please express support or concerns with adopting this document by 31 > > >December 2015 to the IPPM working group mailing list, ippm@ietf.org > > > > > >Many thanks, best regards, > > > > > >Brian Trammell (chair hat) > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable > > proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to > > copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for > > the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender > > immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail > > and any printout. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ippm mailing list > > ippm@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From nobody Thu Feb 18 02:05:58 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13351B35EC; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 02:05:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.906 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.906 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fRNPSp7jvEoT; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 02:05:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5339A1B3106; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 02:05:54 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A2D3AQDTlsVW/xUHmMZeGQEBAQEPAQEBAYJfK4E/BroYAQ2BZ4YNAoFgOBQBAQEBAQEBZCeEQQEBAQEDEgsdNAQHDAQCAQgNAQMEAQEBChQJBzIUCQgCBAENBQgah3gBoh2ZQQEBAQEBAQEDAQEBAQEBAQEBARaGE4Q6hDWDK4EPBZcFAYhAhnWEQ4MZhTuORx4BAUKDY2qIIwF7AQEB X-IPAS-Result: A2D3AQDTlsVW/xUHmMZeGQEBAQEPAQEBAYJfK4E/BroYAQ2BZ4YNAoFgOBQBAQEBAQEBZCeEQQEBAQEDEgsdNAQHDAQCAQgNAQMEAQEBChQJBzIUCQgCBAENBQgah3gBoh2ZQQEBAQEBAQEDAQEBAQEBAQEBARaGE4Q6hDWDK4EPBZcFAYhAhnWEQ4MZhTuORx4BAUKDY2qIIwF7AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.22,464,1449550800"; d="scan'208";a="161463848" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest-exch.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.21]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 18 Feb 2016 05:05:53 -0500 X-OutboundMail_SMTP: 1 Received: from unknown (HELO AZ-FFEXHC04.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.58.14]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA; 18 Feb 2016 05:05:53 -0500 Received: from AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com ([fe80::6db7:b0af:8480:c126]) by AZ-FFEXHC04.global.avaya.com ([135.64.58.14]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 11:05:30 +0100 From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Juergen Schoenwaelder , "ippm@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [ippm] Call for adoption: draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry Thread-Index: AQHRM1Gj3Ombx6Ev3Ea0YhNXsTtcjJ7EomaAgGxcs0CAAMj+gIAAODiw Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 10:05:29 +0000 Message-ID: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA6BF1EDD7@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> References: <2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E611425E355A@GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com> <20160218074115.GA4397@elstar.local> In-Reply-To: <20160218074115.GA4397@elstar.local> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.64.58.46] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "lmap@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for adoption: draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 10:05:57 -0000 (cross-posting LMAP) I suggest that we discuss the LMAP perspective at the LMAP WG interim on Mo= nday.=20 Concrete examples would be indeed very useful. Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: ippm [mailto:ippm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Juergen > Schoenwaelder > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 9:41 AM > To: ippm@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for adoption: draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry >=20 > Hi, >=20 > since an empty registry is of little value, I think having a initial cont= ent defined > somewhere is essential. In fact, I believe initial content _and_ at least= one > concrete use case example is essential in order to know that the registry > itself is practically useful. >=20 > I am mostly active in LMAP and not too closely following IPPM so please > forgive my ignorance. But I generally do believe that a proof of practica= l > usability is essential for good specifications. Hence, concrete metric re= gistry > examples might help to convince us that the registry is a cool thing to h= ave or > they might show us how to make the registry simpler or easier to use. >=20 > /js >=20 > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 06:45:00PM +0000, STARK, BARBARA H wrote: > > +1 > > And I'm sorry I totally missed replying to this call in my get-ready-fo= r- > holidays frenzied mode (in December). > > Barbara > > > > > I support the adoption of this draft as a WG item. It is needed to > > > create entries for the currently defined IPPM metrics into the > > > metric registry and is complementary to work coming out of the LMAP > WG. > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > On 12/10/15, 8:49 AM, "ippm on behalf of Brian Trammell" > > > wrote: > > > > > > >Greetings, all, > > > > > > > >Following support in the room for the adoption of > > > >draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry in Yokohama, this message starts > > > >a formal call for adoption of the following milestone: > > > > > > > >July 2016: submit a Standards Track document to the IESG defining > > > >initial contents of performance metric registry > > > > > > > >in support of paragraph 7 of our charter: > > > > > > > > Agreement about the definitions of metrics and methods of > > > >measurement > > > > enables accurate, reproducible, and equivalent results across > > > >different > > > > implementations. To this end, the WG will define and maintain a > > > >registry of > > > > metric definitions. The WG encourages work which assesses the > > > >comparability > > > > of measurements of IPPM metrics with metrics developed elsewhere. > > > >The WG > > > > also encourages work which improves the availability of > > > >information about > > > > the context in which measurements were taken. > > > > > > > >and to adopt draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry as the document for > > > >this milestone. > > > > > > > >Please express support or concerns with adopting this document by > > > >31 December 2015 to the IPPM working group mailing list, > > > >ippm@ietf.org > > > > > > > >Many thanks, best regards, > > > > > > > >Brian Trammell (chair hat) > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable > > > proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or > > > subject to copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is > > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it > > > is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, > > > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, > > > copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and > > > attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be > > > unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify > > > the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any > copy of this E-mail and any printout. From nobody Thu Feb 18 08:59:21 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215831B2F70 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:59:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.092 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.092 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, LOCALPART_IN_SUBJECT=1.107, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38TGReMPV3wM for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:59:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from usplmg20.ericsson.net (usplmg20.ericsson.net [198.24.6.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 741A01B2F67 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:59:17 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c618062d-f79dd6d000003091-1c-56c5f482169f Received: from EUSAAHC007.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.93]) by usplmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 08.CF.12433.284F5C65; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 17:42:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC007.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.93]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 11:59:15 -0500 From: Gregory Mirsky To: "draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang Thread-Index: AdFqbLsNtCaeQhkcSNaNNzLViFP6yQ== Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:59:14 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219CC404@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.11] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219CC404eusaamb103erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPrG7Tl6NhBl+ui1nsX3iVxaLnwTtm ByaPJUt+Mnl8ufyZLYApissmJTUnsyy1SN8ugStj+Y+PjAXv5CpmtO5gbWC8L9XFyMkhIWAi cW9VMyuELSZx4d56ti5GLg4hgSOMEp/3trJDOMsZJTYsOMEOUsUmYCTxYmMPmC0ikCixc/Ji MJtZQFli76v5jCC2sICaRPP1GawQNdoSh1eeYIaw9SSO3TwLZrMIqEr0n/vEBGLzCvhK3N2x CCzOCHTF91NrmCBmikvcejKfCeI6AYkle84zQ9iiEi8f/4O6Wkni4+/5UDfkS7yfvZoVYqag xMmZT1gmMArPQjJqFpKyWUjKIOI6Egt2f2KDsLUlli18zQxjnznwmAlZfAEj+ypGjtLigpzc dCODTYzAODkmwaa7g/H+dM9DjAIcjEo8vAW/j4QJsSaWFVfmHmKU4GBWEuGt+nw0TIg3JbGy KrUoP76oNCe1+BCjNAeLkjjvUof1YUIC6YklqdmpqQWpRTBZJg5OqQZGTv3SRYolZQ1Kp3ab fuJZd7ejXCnjxNTqvp5Mo/YkL4VM6bIE2eVBy54uLNJfompt8lJDZ9b1HSGCGQpNzhMd2T5/ ZQxeGvUnLaktvewSd4XX+ttqx+6zPH98ffU6Bsuo81/WXAvb3TXrln9hmrK+1OZvnR3fGud2 FoVNWjm55uOFF4nvDV2VWIozEg21mIuKEwF1rmI2jwIAAA== Archived-At: Cc: "ippm@ietf.org" Subject: [ippm] draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:59:19 -0000 --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219CC404eusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Authors, I've noticed that detailed data model examples in Appendix A use UDP port n= umbers from the registered range of UDP port numbers. The registered range = is administered by IANA and port numbers should not be used for application= s other than it was registered to. I believe that UDP port numbers for TWAM= P test must be used from dynamic, private range of port numbers 49152-65535= . Use of port numbers described in RFC 6335 in details. What do you think? Regards, Greg --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219CC404eusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Authors,

I’ve noticed that detailed data model examples= in Appendix A use UDP port numbers from the registered range of UDP port n= umbers. The registered range is administered by IANA and port numbers shoul= d not be used for applications other than it was registered to. I believe that UDP port numbers for TWAMP test must = be used from dynamic, private range of port numbers 49152-65535. Use of por= t numbers described in RFC 6335 in details.

 

What do you think?

 

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--_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219CC404eusaamb103erics_-- From nobody Thu Feb 18 12:29:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913971B2F2F for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 12:29:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9iDl9_0XHaDk for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 12:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-us.alcatel-lucent.com (us-hpatc-esg-01.alcatel-lucent.com [135.245.18.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CD531B2EE7 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 12:29:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from us70tumx1.dmz.alcatel-lucent.com (unknown [135.245.18.13]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 9C192B7C243CC for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:29:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from us70tusmtp1.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (us70tusmtp1.zam.alcatel-lucent.com [135.5.2.63]) by us70tumx1.dmz.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id u1IKTh7r015120 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:29:43 GMT Received: from US70TWXCHHUB04.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (us70twxchhub04.zam.alcatel-lucent.com [135.5.2.36]) by us70tusmtp1.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id u1IKThu9020995 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:29:43 GMT Received: from US70UWXCHMBA05.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.10.121]) by US70TWXCHHUB04.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.5.2.36]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:29:43 -0500 From: "Carey, Timothy (Nokia - US)" To: "ippm@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [ippm] Call for adoption: draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry Thread-Index: AQHRaosZ1VF7nQ/fnkStH45J0npkvQ== Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:29:42 +0000 Message-ID: <9966516C6EB5FC4381E05BF80AA55F77012A5D594E@US70UWXCHMBA05.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.5.27.18] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for adoption: draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:29:51 -0000 I tend to agree with Juergen - It would be nice to have examples of the reg= istry. The scope (3) of the draft does say it will do that... It does provides a few examples that are merely illustrations and should no= t be included in the registry at this point in time. BR, Tim Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:41:15 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: "ippm@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for adoption: draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry Message-ID: <20160218074115.GA4397@elstar.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Hi, since an empty registry is of little value, I think having a initial conten= t defined somewhere is essential. In fact, I believe initial content _and_ = at least one concrete use case example is essential in order to know that t= he registry itself is practically useful. I am mostly active in LMAP and not too closely following IPPM so please for= give my ignorance. But I generally do believe that a proof of practical usa= bility is essential for good specifications. Hence, concrete metric registr= y examples might help to convince us that the registry is a cool thing to h= ave or they might show us how to make the registry simpler or easier to use= . /js On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 06:45:00PM +0000, STARK, BARBARA H wrote: > +1 > And I'm sorry I totally missed replying to this call in my get-ready-for-= holidays frenzied mode (in December). > Barbara >=20 > > I support the adoption of this draft as a WG item. It is needed to=20 > > create entries for the currently defined IPPM metrics into the=20 > > metric registry and is complementary to work coming out of the LMAP WG. > >=20 > > Jason > >=20 > > On 12/10/15, 8:49 AM, "ippm on behalf of Brian Trammell" > > wrote: > >=20 > > >Greetings, all, > > > > > >Following support in the room for the adoption of=20 > > >draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry in Yokohama, this message starts=20 > > >a formal call for adoption of the following milestone: > > > > > >July 2016: submit a Standards Track document to the IESG defining=20 > > >initial contents of performance metric registry > > > > > >in support of paragraph 7 of our charter: > > > > > > Agreement about the definitions of metrics and methods of=20 > > >measurement > > > enables accurate, reproducible, and equivalent results across=20 > > >different > > > implementations. To this end, the WG will define and maintain a=20 > > >registry of > > > metric definitions. The WG encourages work which assesses the=20 > > >comparability > > > of measurements of IPPM metrics with metrics developed elsewhere.=20 > > >The WG > > > also encourages work which improves the availability of=20 > > >information about > > > the context in which measurements were taken. > > > > > >and to adopt draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry as the document for=20 > > >this milestone. > > > > > >Please express support or concerns with adopting this document by=20 > > >31 December 2015 to the IPPM working group mailing list,=20 > > >ippm@ietf.org > > > > > >Many thanks, best regards, > > > > > >Brian Trammell (chair hat) > >=20 > >=20 > > ________________________________ > >=20 > > This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable=20 > > proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or=20 > > subject to copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is=20 > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it=20 > > is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail,=20 > > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution,=20 > > copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and=20 > > attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be=20 > > unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify=20 > > the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy= of this E-mail and any printout. > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > ippm mailing list > > ippm@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm --=20 Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From nobody Thu Feb 18 23:47:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE481A6FF6 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 23:47:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.373 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.373 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HgzMRH6vPbIZ for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 23:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from teledg002ba020.telecomitalia.it (teledg002ba020.telecomitalia.it [156.54.233.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8C1F1A6FBA for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 23:47:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from TELCAH002BA020.telecomitalia.local (10.188.101.216) by teledg002ba020.telecomitalia.it (10.188.101.211) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.266.1; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:47:33 +0100 Received: from TELMBA001BA020.telecomitalia.local ([169.254.1.141]) by TELCAH002BA020.telecomitalia.local ([10.188.101.216]) with mapi id 14.03.0266.001; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:47:33 +0100 From: Ionta Tiziano To: "ippm@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [ippm] Call for adoption: draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry Thread-Index: AdFq6YMfCMC+mr1JTmWYMON/hjmJDQ== Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 07:47:32 +0000 Message-ID: <0AD5F8BADDD1FF4097676479A6D8F7B3595DE42A@TELMBA001BA020.telecomitalia.local> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: it-IT X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.188.101.186] x-ti-disclaimer: Disclaimer1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] Call for adoption: draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 07:47:40 -0000 Hi Al! Sorry for the delay! I support the adoption of this draft as a WG item, happy to see the support= ive concerns from many people. Best Tiziano On 12/10/15, 8:49 AM, "ippm on behalf of Brian Trammell" wrote: >Greetings, all, > >Following support in the room for the adoption of >draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry in Yokohama, this message starts a >formal call for adoption of the following milestone: > >July 2016: submit a Standards Track document to the IESG defining >initial contents of performance metric registry > >in support of paragraph 7 of our charter: > > Agreement about the definitions of metrics and methods of measurement > enables accurate, reproducible, and equivalent results across >different > implementations. To this end, the WG will define and maintain a >registry of > metric definitions. The WG encourages work which assesses the >comparability > of measurements of IPPM metrics with metrics developed elsewhere. The >WG > also encourages work which improves the availability of information >about > the context in which measurements were taken. > >and to adopt draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry as the document for >this milestone. > >Please express support or concerns with adopting this document by 31 >December 2015 to the IPPM working group mailing list, ippm@ietf.org > >Many thanks, best regards, > >Brian Trammell (chair hat) ________________________________ This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable propri= etary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyrig= ht belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the u= se of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the= intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissem= ination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents= of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawf= ul. 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I find this a very rele= vant draft that I hope will get adopted by the the WG. That said, I do hav= e a couple of comments and suggestions: - It would be a good idea to establish some terminology, and add a= corresponding terminology section. For example, we need a term for the "f= low blocks" in which a particular marking applies, for the data records tha= t are generated for each flow block, for the coloring intervals and block d= uration, etc. - Section 2: It would be useful to indicate what you do with the = colored "blocks" respectively the measurements associated with them, and wh= at the potential interoperability issues are: for example, are you looking = at a standard way of controlling the marking, or a standard way of exportin= g the measures being taken? Even if you consider this outside the scope of= the document, it would be good to still mention that (even if just to stat= e this is out of scope). - It would be good to add a paragraph specifically on the problem = of how to determine when a block is terminated, probably around section 3.1= . It would be good to add a little further discussion on assumptions choic= es, most specifically the lower bound that an interval can have for measure= ments to still be accurate. Presumably that would be something like 2*max = jitter that can occur (to account for the possibilility of laggards). - It would be useful to add an additional diagram, showing the dep= loyment of how/where you perform the measurements (i.e. where the packets a= re captured, time stamped, etc) - It would be useful to add a section at the end regarding interop= erability considerations, per the earlier comment, e.g. the control of the = markings, the counting, the exporting of the records. This can be accompan= ied by an explanation that this is out of scope, but mentioning this would = be good. - The draft is written as too Telecom Italia specific. This needs= to be framed as a general-purpose problem that is of broader interest acro= ss the industry. There are various associated edits that should be made, p= erhaps most importantly in the abstract and the introduction. If you wou= ld want to refer to Telecom Italia specifics, you might consider simply ref= erencing a publication (in a conference, journal or such) in the reference = section instead. Kind regards --- Alex --_000_983d4297610946fe837c24f74c0f09bcXCHRCD001ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

I have a few comments on draft-tempia-ippm-p3m-02.&n= bsp; I find this a very relevant draft that I hope will get adopted by the = the WG.  That said, I do have a couple of comments and suggestions:&nb= sp;

 

-     &= nbsp;    It would be a good idea to establish some terminolo= gy, and add a corresponding terminology section.  For example, we need= a term for the “flow blocks” in which a particular marking app= lies, for the data records that are generated for each flow block, for the coloring intervals and block duration, etc. =

-     &= nbsp;    Section 2:  It would be useful to indicate wha= t you do with the colored “blocks” respectively the measurement= s associated with them, and what the potential interoperability issues are:= for example, are you looking at a standard way of controlling the marking, or a standard way of exporting the measures being= taken?  Even if you consider this outside the scope of the document, = it would be good to still mention that (even if just to state this is out o= f scope).

-     &= nbsp;    It would be good to add a paragraph specifically on= the problem of how to determine when a block is terminated, probably aroun= d section 3.1.  It would be good to add a little further discussion on= assumptions choices, most specifically the lower bound that an interval can have for measurements to still be acc= urate.  Presumably that would be something like 2*max jitter that can = occur (to account for the possibilility of laggards). 

-     &= nbsp;    It would be useful to add an additional diagram, sh= owing the deployment of how/where you perform the measurements (i.e. where = the packets are captured, time stamped, etc)

-     &= nbsp;    It would be useful to add a section at the end rega= rding interoperability considerations, per the earlier comment, e.g. the co= ntrol of the markings, the counting, the exporting of the records.  Th= is can be accompanied by an explanation that this is out of scope, but mentioning this would be good.

-     &= nbsp;    The draft is written as too Telecom Italia specific= .  This needs to be framed as a general-purpose problem that is of bro= ader interest across the industry.  There are various associated edits= that should be made, perhaps most importantly in the abstract and the introduction.    If you would want = to refer to Telecom Italia specifics, you might consider simply referencing= a publication (in a conference, journal or such) in the reference section = instead. 

 

Kind regards

--- Alex

 

--_000_983d4297610946fe837c24f74c0f09bcXCHRCD001ciscocom_-- From nobody Mon Feb 22 09:07:02 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240921B2CF0; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 09:07:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.14.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160222170701.7074.30860.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 09:07:01 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] The IPPM WG has placed draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:07:01 -0000 The IPPM WG has placed draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Bill Cerveny) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry/ From nobody Mon Feb 22 09:08:38 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A171B2CFF; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 09:08:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.14.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160222170837.20599.14012.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 09:08:37 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] The IPPM WG has placed draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:08:37 -0000 The IPPM WG has placed draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Bill Cerveny) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang/ From nobody Mon Feb 22 09:17:58 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4521B359F for ; 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I=E2=80=99m just = updating datatracker to reflect this fact. Bill Cerveny > On Feb 22, 2016, at 12:08 PM, IETF Secretariat = wrote: >=20 >=20 > The IPPM WG has placed draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang in state=20 > Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Bill Cerveny) >=20 > The document is available at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang/ >=20 From nobody Mon Feb 22 09:22:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0E71B3817 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 09:21:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.093 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.093 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, LOCALPART_IN_SUBJECT=1.107, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CACcbQJY-lZ0 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 09:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from usplmg21.ericsson.net (usplmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66AEF1B381C for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 09:21:50 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c6180641-f799c6d000007d66-6d-56cb439328ed Received: from EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.81]) by usplmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id FA.9B.32102.3934BC65; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:21:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.81]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:21:49 -0500 From: Gregory Mirsky To: "draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang Thread-Index: AdFqbLsNtCaeQhkcSNaNNzLViFP6yQDKKviw Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:21:48 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219DD0CE@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.10] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219DD0CEeusaamb103erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrBLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPoO5k59NhBie3W1vsX3iVxaLnwTtm ByaPJUt+Mnl8ufyZLYApissmJTUnsyy1SN8ugSvjzZ0PrAW39Cp+b85pYLyv0cXIySEhYCLx 8u9mJghbTOLCvfVsXYxcHEICRxglnvx7wwrhLGeU+PJ6FStIFZuAkcSLjT3sILaIQKLEzsmL wWxmAWWJva/mM4LYwgJaEpemfGSEqNGWOLzyBHMXIweQbSRxdBcXSJhFQFViScN/sBJeAV+J s32HWEBsRqAjvp9awwQxUlzi1pP5UMcJSCzZc54ZwhaVePn4HyuErSQxaek5VpDxzAL5EgcW +0CMFJQ4OfMJywRG4VlIJs1CqJqFpAqiREdiwe5PbBC2tsSyha+ZYewzBx4zIYsvYGRfxchR WlyQk5tuZLiJERgfxyTYHHcw7u31PMQowMGoxMNrwHkqTIg1say4MvcQowQHs5IIb53U6TAh 3pTEyqrUovz4otKc1OJDjNIcLErivHOd14cJCaQnlqRmp6YWpBbBZJk4OKUaGBUU7KbstH/5 oP11hsTKJ9lSy37a/1YWWDK9efefr6Xfa9T0/dRldndXXT/i3+4z5YH+gZgzi350h20V8L2V 9+DdWlPpe7M+Trl/saxtqsK5fcb7fywJS2oIEJ1n8GSt4ZG1hUV3orT+fY8NXDvRatftPxOu hMasn5GkEGozv0H80G/p62fefz6ixFKckWioxVxUnAgA6fLR9YsCAAA= Archived-At: Cc: "ippm@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ippm] draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:21:57 -0000 --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219DD0CEeusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Authors, et. al, please consider this comment as part of WG adoption call discussion. Regards, Greg From: Gregory Mirsky Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:59 AM To: 'draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@tools.ietf.org' Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang Dear Authors, I've noticed that detailed data model examples in Appendix A use UDP port n= umbers from the registered range of UDP port numbers. The registered range = is administered by IANA and port numbers should not be used for application= s other than it was registered to. I believe that UDP port numbers for TWAM= P test must be used from dynamic, private range of port numbers 49152-65535= . Use of port numbers described in RFC 6335 in details. What do you think? Regards, Greg --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219DD0CEeusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Authors, et. al,<= o:p>

please consider this c= omment as part of WG adoption call discussion.

 

   &nbs= p;            Regard= s,

   &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Greg

 

From: Gregory = Mirsky
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:59 AM
To: 'draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@tools.ietf.org'
Cc: ippm@ietf.org
Subject: draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang

 

Dear Authors,

I’ve noticed that detailed data model examples= in Appendix A use UDP port numbers from the registered range of UDP port n= umbers. The registered range is administered by IANA and port numbers shoul= d not be used for applications other than it was registered to. I believe that UDP port numbers for TWAMP test must = be used from dynamic, private range of port numbers 49152-65535. Use of por= t numbers described in RFC 6335 in details.

 

What do you think?

 

        &nbs= p;       Regards,

        &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;          Greg=

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Bill Cerveny > On Feb 22, 2016, at 12:07 PM, IETF Secretariat = wrote: >=20 >=20 > The IPPM WG has placed draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry in state=20 > Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Bill Cerveny) >=20 > The document is available at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-morton-ippm-initial-registry/ >=20 From nobody Tue Feb 23 16:56:35 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659871ACD24 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:56:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZJ9w_7x90V2L for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:56:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from usplmg21.ericsson.net (usplmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77B081B30BD for ; 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Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:21:52 -0600 Received: from xch-rcd-005.cisco.com ([173.37.102.15]) by XCH-RCD-005.cisco.com ([173.37.102.15]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:21:51 -0600 From: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" To: Gregory Mirsky , "draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang Thread-Index: AdFqbLsNtCaeQhkcSNaNNzLViFP6yQDKKviwAGSdoAA= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 16:21:51 +0000 Message-ID: References: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219DD0CE@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219DD0CE@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.9.151119 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [161.44.212.143] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D2F278FD128927rrahmanciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "ippm@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ippm] draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 16:21:56 -0000 --_000_D2F278FD128927rrahmanciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Greg, Apologies for the delayed response. I agree with your comment. Regards, Reshad. From: Gregory Mirsky > Date: Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:21 PM To: "draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@tools.ietf.org" > Cc: "ippm@ietf.org" > Subject: RE: draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang Resent-From: > Resent-To: > Resent-Date: Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:21 PM Dear Authors, et. al, please consider this comment as part of WG adoption call discussion. Regards, Greg From: Gregory Mirsky Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:59 AM To: 'draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@tools.ietf.org' Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang Dear Authors, I've noticed that detailed data model examples in Appendix A use UDP port n= umbers from the registered range of UDP port numbers. The registered range = is administered by IANA and port numbers should not be used for application= s other than it was registered to. I believe that UDP port numbers for TWAM= P test must be used from dynamic, private range of port numbers 49152-65535= . Use of port numbers described in RFC 6335 in details. What do you think? Regards, Greg --_000_D2F278FD128927rrahmanciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Greg,

Apologies for the delayed response. I agree with your comment.

Regards,
Reshad.


Dear Authors, et. al,<= o:p>

please consider this c= omment as part of WG adoption call discussion.

 

   &nbs= p;            Regard= s,

   &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Greg

 

 

Dear Authors,

I’ve noticed that detailed data model examples= in Appendix A use UDP port numbers from the registered range of UDP port n= umbers. The registered range is administered by IANA and port numbers shoul= d not be used for applications other than it was registered to. I believe that UDP port numbers for TWAMP test must = be used from dynamic, private range of port numbers 49152-65535. Use of por= t numbers described in RFC 6335 in details.

 

What do you think?

 

        &nbs= p;       Regards,

        &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;          Greg=

--_000_D2F278FD128927rrahmanciscocom_-- From nobody Wed Feb 24 09:13:43 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238011B3829; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 09:13:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.427 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.427 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hx6qUx76U1pn; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 09:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from teledg002ba020.telecomitalia.it (teledg002ba020.telecomitalia.it [156.54.233.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C01D71B3600; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 09:13:33 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_95c4e631-e3b1-4a12-9c5d-22a177abe720_" Received: from TELCAH005BA020.telecomitalia.local (10.188.101.222) by teledg002ba020.telecomitalia.it (10.188.101.211) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.266.1; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:13:30 +0100 Received: from TELMBB001BA020.telecomitalia.local ([169.254.2.43]) by telcah005ba020.telecomitalia.local ([10.188.101.222]) with mapi id 14.03.0266.001; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:13:30 +0100 From: Fioccola Giuseppe To: "Alexander Clemm (alex)" , "draft-tempia-ippm-p3m@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Comments on draft-tempia-ippm-p3m-02 Thread-Index: AdFq8YDYvT8DphYxR8+0kC+VeLYXUQDPjRug Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 17:13:30 +0000 Message-ID: <23126F6FC5CA3E44916CF99D4E0B878B44F72FCB@TELMBB001BA020.telecomitalia.local> References: <983d4297610946fe837c24f74c0f09bc@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <983d4297610946fe837c24f74c0f09bc@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: it-IT X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.188.101.189] x-ti-disclaimer: Disclaimer1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "ippm@ietf.org" Subject: [ippm] R: Comments on draft-tempia-ippm-p3m-02 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 17:13:42 -0000 --_95c4e631-e3b1-4a12-9c5d-22a177abe720_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_23126F6FC5CA3E44916CF99D4E0B878B44F72FCBTELMBB001BA020t_" --_000_23126F6FC5CA3E44916CF99D4E0B878B44F72FCBTELMBB001BA020t_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alex, We are glad that you consider this document a very relevant draft and suppo= rt WG adoption. Greatly appreciate your valuable and thoughtful considerations. I'm working on a proposed update to the draft that addresses your comments = in addition to the comments we recently received. Please see my response inline... Best Regards, Giuseppe Da: Alexander Clemm (alex) [mailto:alex@cisco.com] Inviato: venerd=EC 19 febbraio 2016 09:43 A: draft-tempia-ippm-p3m@ietf.org Cc: ippm@ietf.org Oggetto: Comments on draft-tempia-ippm-p3m-02 Hi, I have a few comments on draft-tempia-ippm-p3m-02. I find this a very rele= vant draft that I hope will get adopted by the the WG. That said, I do hav= e a couple of comments and suggestions: - It would be a good idea to establish some terminology, and add a= corresponding terminology section. For example, we need a term for the "f= low blocks" in which a particular marking applies, for the data records tha= t are generated for each flow block, for the coloring intervals and block d= uration, etc. GF: I agree, a terminology section is necessary. - Section 2: It would be useful to indicate what you do with the = colored "blocks" respectively the measurements associated with them, and wh= at the potential interoperability issues are: for example, are you looking = at a standard way of controlling the marking, or a standard way of exportin= g the measures being taken? Even if you consider this outside the scope of= the document, it would be good to still mention that (even if just to stat= e this is out of scope). GF: The way of exporting the measures is outside the scope of this document= , because it would be a general reference for alternate marking technique. = Other related documents should address these topics depending on the applic= ation of the methodology. But you are right, we need to specify what we are= looking for and what is out of scope. - It would be good to add a paragraph specifically on the problem = of how to determine when a block is terminated, probably around section 3.1= . It would be good to add a little further discussion on assumptions choic= es, most specifically the lower bound that an interval can have for measure= ments to still be accurate. Presumably that would be something like 2*max = jitter that can occur (to account for the possibilility of laggards). GF: Certainly, a more detailed paragraph will be added. - It would be useful to add an additional diagram, showing the dep= loyment of how/where you perform the measurements (i.e. where the packets a= re captured, time stamped, etc) GF: Yes, I agree. - It would be useful to add a section at the end regarding interop= erability considerations, per the earlier comment, e.g. the control of the = markings, the counting, the exporting of the records. This can be accompan= ied by an explanation that this is out of scope, but mentioning this would = be good. GF: For sure. In this document the authors would like to describe marking a= nd counting methodology. The exporting of records is out of scope and is in= charge of the related documents. - The draft is written as too Telecom Italia specific. This needs= to be framed as a general-purpose problem that is of broader interest acro= ss the industry. There are various associated edits that should be made, p= erhaps most importantly in the abstract and the introduction. If you wou= ld want to refer to Telecom Italia specifics, you might consider simply ref= erencing a publication (in a conference, journal or such) in the reference = section instead. GF: Of course. It will be address in the new version of the document. Kind regards --- Alex Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle per= sone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dall= a conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abb= iate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di dar= ne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione= , Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged = information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, pri= nting or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended r= ecipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sen= der by return e-mail, Thanks. [rispetta l'ambiente]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non = =E8 necessario. --_000_23126F6FC5CA3E44916CF99D4E0B878B44F72FCBTELMBB001BA020t_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Alex,

We are glad that you consider t= his document a very relevant draft and support WG adoption.

Greatly appreciate your valuabl= e and thoughtful considerations.

I’m working on a proposed= update to the draft that addresses your comments in addition to the commen= ts we recently received.

 

Please see my response inlin= e…

 

Best Regards,=

 

Giuseppe

 

&n= bsp;

Da: Alexander Clemm (alex) [mailto:alex@cisco.com= ]
Inviato: venerd=EC 19 febbraio 2016 09:43
A: draft-tempia-ippm-p3m@ietf.org
Cc: ippm@ietf.org
Oggetto: Comments on draft-tempia-ippm-p3m-02

 

Hi,

 

I have a few comments on draft-= tempia-ippm-p3m-02.  I find this a very relevant draft that I hope wil= l get adopted by the the WG.  That said, I do have a couple of comment= s and suggestions: 

 

-     &= nbsp;    It would be a good idea to establish some termi= nology, and add a corresponding terminology section.  For example, we = need a term for the “flow blocks” in which a particular marking= applies, for the data records that are generated for each flow block, for the coloring intervals and block duration, etc.<= /o:p>

GF: I agree, a terminology section is necessary.

-     &= nbsp;    Section 2:  It would be useful to indicate= what you do with the colored “blocks” respectively the measure= ments associated with them, and what the potential interoperability issues = are: for example, are you looking at a standard way of controlling the marking, or a standard way of exporting the measures be= ing taken?  Even if you consider this outside the scope of the documen= t, it would be good to still mention that (even if just to state this is ou= t of scope).

GF: The way of exporting the measures is outside the scope of this do= cument, because it would be a general reference for alternate marking techn= ique. Other related documents should address these topics depending on the application of the methodology. But you are = right, we need to specify what we are looking for and what is out of scope.=

-     &= nbsp;    It would be good to add a paragraph specificall= y on the problem of how to determine when a block is terminated, probably a= round section 3.1.  It would be good to add a little further discussio= n on assumptions choices, most specifically the lower bound that an interval can have for measurements to still be acc= urate.  Presumably that would be something like 2*max jitter that can = occur (to account for the possibilility of laggards). 

GF: Certainly, a more detailed paragraph will be added.

-     &= nbsp;    It would be useful to add an additional diagram= , showing the deployment of how/where you perform the measurements (i.e. wh= ere the packets are captured, time stamped, etc)

GF: Yes, I agree.     

-     &= nbsp;    It would be useful to add a section at the end = regarding interoperability considerations, per the earlier comment, e.g. th= e control of the markings, the counting, the exporting of the records. &nbs= p;This can be accompanied by an explanation that this is out of scope, but mentioning this would be good.

GF: For sure. In this document the authors would like to describe mar= king and counting methodology. The exporting of records is out of scope and= is in charge of the related documents.

-     &= nbsp;    The draft is written as too Telecom Italia spec= ific.  This needs to be framed as a general-purpose problem that is of= broader interest across the industry.  There are various associated e= dits that should be made, perhaps most importantly in the abstract and the introduction.    If you would want = to refer to Telecom Italia specifics, you might consider simply referencing= a publication (in a conference, journal or such) in the reference section = instead. 

GF: Of course. It will be address in the new version of the document.=

 

Kind regards<= /p>

--- Alex

 

= Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle per= sone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigoro= samente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete= cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di pro= vvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie.

This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only.= Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. I= f you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any at= tachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks.

3D"rispettaRispetta= l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non =E8 necessario.

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If we agree that port numbers for a test = session must be only from the dynamic range, then this range should be impo= sed in the data model on sender-udp-port and reflector-udp-port. At this ti= me both are inet:port-number. Regards, Greg From: Reshad Rahman (rrahman) [mailto:rrahman@cisco.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:22 AM To: Gregory Mirsky; draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@tools.ietf.org Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: Re: draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang Hi Greg, Apologies for the delayed response. I agree with your comment. Regards, Reshad. From: Gregory Mirsky > Date: Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:21 PM To: "draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@tools.ietf.org" > Cc: "ippm@ietf.org" > Subject: RE: draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang Resent-From: > Resent-To: > Resent-Date: Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:21 PM Dear Authors, et. al, please consider this comment as part of WG adoption call discussion. Regards, Greg From: Gregory Mirsky Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:59 AM To: 'draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@tools.ietf.org' Cc: ippm@ietf.org Subject: draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang Dear Authors, I've noticed that detailed data model examples in Appendix A use UDP port n= umbers from the registered range of UDP port numbers. The registered range = is administered by IANA and port numbers should not be used for application= s other than it was registered to. I believe that UDP port numbers for TWAM= P test must be used from dynamic, private range of port numbers 49152-65535= . Use of port numbers described in RFC 6335 in details. What do you think? Regards, Greg --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219E1CC6eusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Reshad,<= /span>

thank you for your con= sideration. If we agree that port numbers for a test session must be only f= rom the dynamic range, then this range should be imposed in the data model = on sender-udp-port and reflector-udp-port. At this time both are inet:port-number.

 

   &nbs= p;            Regard= s,

   &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Greg

 

From: Reshad R= ahman (rrahman) [mailto:rrahman@cisco.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:22 AM
To: Gregory Mirsky; draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@tools.ietf.org
Cc: ippm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang

 

Hi Greg= ,

&n= bsp;

Apologi= es for the delayed response. I agree with your comment.

&n= bsp;

Regards= ,

Reshad.=

&n= bsp;

From: Gregory Mirsky <gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com>
Date: Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:21 PM
To: "draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@tools.ietf.org" <draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-= yang@tools.ietf.org>
Cc: "ippm@ietf.org" &= lt;ippm@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang
Resent-From: <greg= ory.mirsky@ericsson.com>
Resent-To: <draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org>
Resent-Date: Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:21 PM=

&n= bsp;

Dear Authors, et. al,<= /span>

please consider this c= omment as part of WG adoption call discussion.

 

   &nbs= p;            Regard= s,

   &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Greg

 

From: Gregory Mirsky
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:59 AM
To: = 'draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang@tools.ietf.org'
Cc: ippm@ietf.org
Subject: draft-cmzrjp-ippm-twamp-yang

 =

Dear Authors,=

I’ve noticed that = detailed data model examples in Appendix A use UDP port numbers from the re= gistered range of UDP port numbers. The registered range is administered by= IANA and port numbers should not be used for applications other than it was registered to. I believe that UDP port = numbers for TWAMP test must be used from dynamic, private range of port num= bers 49152-65535. Use of port numbers described in RFC 6335 in details.

 =

What do you think?<= /o:p>

 =

    =             Regards,=

    =             &nb= sp;            =    Greg

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