From nobody Sun Jul 1 06:09:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4EE130EAA for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 06:09:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.685 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.685 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7d5eSfr4ldxO for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 06:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20698130E79 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 06:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-19v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.115]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id ZbtUfORioPZd3Zc6kfvTXX; Sun, 01 Jul 2018 13:09:38 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([24.91.37.100]) by resomta-ch2-19v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id Zc6jfgRCtUQxBZc6jfzWkQ; Sun, 01 Jul 2018 13:09:38 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w61D9a8t004335; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 09:09:36 -0400 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id w61D9ZmT004326; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 09:09:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: J Ignacio Alvarez-Hamelin Cc: ippm@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <472C8B20-94D4-4801-808D-78A2CE41331D@cnet.fi.uba.ar> (ihameli@cnet.fi.uba.ar) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 09:09:35 -0400 Message-ID: <87d0w785m8.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfHVNnujekZykgwv0sdYD3Ad680/oMHE/jLOJ1SphqQCLMIlpKm/aqQEazn94P+XgwVDoZEWTEBa6NFVBwAggJ2VCXEu2Xufn/UxgpFCyeO1PR6MCThW+ nk40x8qtALsuLpYQbirncKMIHERRgo6BY3MBKiQyzsindOyn+iiS6b1FyySP57Sjr7pQFLqU8TUpLn7UCAZ9iTjagC7sj3yPxrg= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-alavarez-hamelin-tictoc-sic-01.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 13:09:41 -0000 This is a very interesting proposal. I'd suggest a couple of small changes: Abstract ... with a Maximum Time Interval Error less than 25 microseconds by a minute. I think that "by a minute" means "after operating for one minute". You want the Abstract to be as clear as possible. While synchronized absolute clocks aim on a measurement of exact time differences between them, ... My impression is that NTP aims on a measurement of time differences between the clock and UTC; measurement of exact time differences between the clocks in an NTP peering is only a means to that end. Dale From nobody Sun Jul 1 11:58:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB9F130DE2; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 11:58:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UcK1RXN6pdbl; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 11:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu [18.9.25.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F190130DDB; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 11:58:43 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 1209190c-5b5ff70000003dbd-6a-5b3924619dc4 Received: from mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu ( [18.9.21.43]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 3E.D5.15805.164293B5; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 14:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH-1.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id w61IwdZo022345; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 14:58:40 -0400 Received: from kduck.kaduk.org (24-107-191-124.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com [24.107.191.124]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id w61IwYFd024178 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 1 Jul 2018 14:58:36 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 13:58:33 -0500 From: Benjamin Kaduk To: Mahesh Jethanandani Cc: Spencer Dawkins at IETF , ippm-chairs@ietf.org, Adam Roach , Nalini Elkins , ippm@ietf.org, draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org, The IESG Message-ID: <20180701185831.GD22125@kduck.kaduk.org> References: <152955610162.28620.13249468338471662781.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <063FD288-AF03-43B0-A519-5BFE418D3DC0@gmail.com> <5C8A4F3E-3FE0-4EBB-8A60-C974769DBB0C@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5C8A4F3E-3FE0-4EBB-8A60-C974769DBB0C@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.1 (2017-09-22) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrOKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixCmqrZuoYhlt0H3L0mLP30XsFreONDBa zPgzkdli9Y5uNoueB++YLU6/Wcdm8fnkJUaLZVP2MDtweOycdZfdY8mSn0weW2bcYvKYtfMJ SwBLFJdNSmpOZllqkb5dAlfGpV/CBSeUKybdf8zawPhBpouRk0NCwETid/s15i5GLg4hgcVM Ej3vjrCCJIQENjBKXForAJG4wiTxZ24PM0iCRUBFYsmLR4wgNhuQ3dB9GSwuImAocerACyaQ BmaBbiaJu79+sYAkhAUSJBq7v4FN5QVaN+/fNTaIqb8ZJdqbN7FAJAQlTs58AmYzC6hL/Jl3 CWgqB5AtLbH8HwdEWF6ieetssGWcArYSW05uApspKqAssbfvEPsERsFZSCbNQjJpFsKkWUgm LWBkWcUom5JbpZubmJlTnJqsW5ycmJeXWqRrqJebWaKXmlK6iREcJ5I8OxjPvPE6xCjAwajE w7tAzDJaiDWxrLgy9xCjJAeTkijvYTGzaCG+pPyUyozE4oz4otKc1OJDjBIczEoivKIfzaOF eFMSK6tSi/JhUtIcLErivNmLGKOFBNITS1KzU1MLUotgsjIcHEoSvOLKQHsEi1LTUyvSMnNK ENJMHJwgw3mAhucqAdXwFhck5hZnpkPkTzHqcvx5P3USsxBLXn5eqpQ4rxnIIAGQoozSPLg5 oPQmkb2/5hWjONBbwrxBIFU8wNQIN+kV0BImoCXVx01BlpQkIqSkGhivBedl1sQqG6Um3Py9 bY71hYyi8J27joe732byW3f19qTViZNOmS18wKR2JOzV272z1kRb6GW2rnyTxRZ6oIY7vKPP 7Gvwn61TJr+vzz64zoq9dXUd79F4GcNDX77vmBhV+4qx5Lnl0U/rjLk67jyt+uliHXhvyhTN +XEfeafafebgnce52uCvEktxRqKhFnNRcSIAMWMhaEoDAAA= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 18:58:46 -0000 (Also not the Adam interpreter) On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:19:53PM -0700, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: > Hi Spencer, > > > On Jun 29, 2018, at 8:08 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: > > > > Hi, Manesh, > > > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 2:14 PM Mahesh Jethanandani > wrote: > > Hi Adam, > > > > > On Jun 20, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Adam Roach > wrote: > > > > > > Adam Roach has entered the following ballot position for > > > draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-11: Discuss > > > > > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > > > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > > > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > > > > > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > > > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > > > > > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > DISCUSS: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Thanks for the work and thought that everyone involved in this document spent. I > > > find the model well described and easy to understand. > > > > > > I agree with Ben's comments about including more information about the privacy > > > and security properties of specific entities in the module. See > > > https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines for specific > > > guidance. > > > > > > Since this conflicts with normative language in RFC 6087 §3.4 (and 6087bis > > > §3.7), it is a blocking defect that needs to be remedied prior to publication. > > > > I have added more nodes in the Security Considerations section. > > > > I'm not the Adam Interpreter, but I'm seeing considerable new discussion about the MTI security for NETCONF and RESTCONF, and about what happens if writable nodes are modified by an attacker. Thank you for that. > > > > Adam said in his Discuss that he was agreeing with Ben's comments on this topic, and Ben's comments included this question: > > > > Are there no nodes that are privacy (or otherwise) sensitive when just readable? > > > > I didn't see any new text about this. Are there privacy-sensitive read-only nodes? > > I took another look at nodes that are marked read-only in the YANG module. These nodes include session state, sent and receive packet count, last sequence number received or transmitted, start time, repeat count, tcp/ip address and port numbers etc. Nothing jumped out as particularly privacy sensitive. In some scenarios knowing the current sequence number is useful to an attacker, e.g., in TCP for sending off-path RST. I don't remember enough of how TWAMP works to say offhand whether an analogous disruption is possible in some (unauthenticated?) cases. > One field that did catch my attention was the ‘token’ field, which is defined as "This parameter holds the 64 octets containing the concatenation of a 16-octet Challenge, a 16-octet AES Session-key used for encryption, and a 32-octet HMAC-SHA1 Session-key used for authentication; see also the last paragraph of Section 6 in RFC 4656.” > > I am not a security expert, and do not know if being able to read this or other read-only information is sufficient in itself to launch an attack or disrupt an existing or new session. Maybe somebody from SEC-DIR can comment on it. If it is, I would be happy to add some text around it. I note that secdir is not on the recipients list, so if you want to get specific feedback, someone will need to explicitly seek it out. I also note that the cryptographic constructions used for TWAMP are quite diverged from current best practices and appear to be fragile at best. So someone doing such an analysis might have to go through a fair amount of effort to reach a conclusion (part of why I did not attempt such analysis myself). It might be safest to assume that being able to read the token field gives an attacker the ability to disrupt a test session. -Benjamin From nobody Sun Jul 1 13:55:34 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1819130E1E; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 13:55:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YZWy1K77UGnA; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pf0-x22d.google.com (mail-pf0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD3F6130DC9; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id z24-v6so6501937pfe.7; Sun, 01 Jul 2018 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=/IHm4m5jz41yB71kp78Pr/dTCZQc8XBD5qg6IiZ7NEY=; b=Z7HIM6FQLTUp/e9xjmb2RjvogaW+rXrmDuPHc6AsL5Oi1AoEju7TmvwvHwn/dTe6A3 umnQkptLHRnSO3rq+w9kGOH98wmjLwFVSUljwA2xpHnB00XQb7TWxWOIXE66guUDpd8F xGA1SZJeVhhSTfeZ6PxxVZFXPF7jRUbJ8U8GeTSD4FXs6nbmXR5k0qRmXKFCFlU/dZyg DathmVkQ753XbDWFv67E29WFVRb0pSXzclCwxbuLwM52MhY0xlZUWUGfBrx0ieS/aeXy WgF3BAu10r7E4A8UTvWuJ7IITVQ8atcrj8kCxM+jYqBY0A77NZkOgGog+hTe53y7nKG9 yjZw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=/IHm4m5jz41yB71kp78Pr/dTCZQc8XBD5qg6IiZ7NEY=; b=HCvIpzlCwshrVGOz9Zw51aCfeofEX+T2/IjpNh5fPaehAX1uRjPO4vDvIqXaBvCkCJ kOQcKYPQ1pQLaR56fY0vUFKEjMFs9cj7ed5D4skxzG31ZZbIIa1lKPIZqresPioqPvku cCuFCLRaPUuDDqq6HvpmjvQKW3dRPWRx7TKbK8e6EwYWTyCANj6jj4Rp1tIzgRklPFlW 9nTjbU02FakH7rNJ8Z8qyhfT1YtlxFRqjldK5xRH+91UUZu9O+6XAjPDThDzR7o8Pw8i zSdg3HaQggyAERinbawgLpPpbvNbWQ+C1gB/BkYEr4TRPyP7Y3GO1NDKbaUKhqPSOhB/ A0mQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E25CN9tdb715zzkqW60Y7MJByH6DWyXdlzHUrWNBXYdS57SJWvH kTbfWv/1yP446lHCigpeNzg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJiQX+BFwQNmQRzcxDamGddJUgXqzzggymaNltCGJMFHP9A4+h/koX9Ocl2YCRi7yTWOJWzHA== X-Received: by 2002:a65:5686:: with SMTP id v6-v6mr19558967pgs.141.1530478524028; Sun, 01 Jul 2018 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2607:fb90:9c56:8b26:ac44:e224:db38:dff6? ([2607:fb90:9c56:8b26:ac44:e224:db38:dff6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z10-v6sm21612346pfh.83.2018.07.01.13.55.22 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Jul 2018 13:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Mahesh Jethanandani X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14G60) In-Reply-To: <20180701185831.GD22125@kduck.kaduk.org> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 13:55:21 -0700 Cc: Spencer Dawkins at IETF , ippm-chairs@ietf.org, Adam Roach , Nalini Elkins , ippm@ietf.org, draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org, The IESG Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <39B43C72-59B3-4625-BA4D-4C6C565F9749@gmail.com> References: <152955610162.28620.13249468338471662781.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <063FD288-AF03-43B0-A519-5BFE418D3DC0@gmail.com> <5C8A4F3E-3FE0-4EBB-8A60-C974769DBB0C@gmail.com> <20180701185831.GD22125@kduck.kaduk.org> To: Benjamin Kaduk Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:55:27 -0000 Hi Ben, Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2018, at 11:58 AM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: >=20 > (Also not the Adam interpreter) >=20 >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:19:53PM -0700, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: >> Hi Spencer, >>=20 >>> On Jun 29, 2018, at 8:08 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi, Manesh,=20 >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 2:14 PM Mahesh Jethanandani > wrote: >>> Hi Adam, >>>=20 >>>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Adam Roach > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Adam Roach has entered the following ballot position for >>>> draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-11: Discuss >>>>=20 >>>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >>>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this= >>>> introductory paragraph, however.) >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.ht= ml >>>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/ >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> DISCUSS: >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks for the work and thought that everyone involved in this document= spent. I >>>> find the model well described and easy to understand. >>>>=20 >>>> I agree with Ben's comments about including more information about the p= rivacy >>>> and security properties of specific entities in the module. See >>>> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines for specific >>>> guidance. >>>>=20 >>>> Since this conflicts with normative language in RFC 6087 =C2=A73.4 (and= 6087bis >>>> =C2=A73.7), it is a blocking defect that needs to be remedied prior to p= ublication. >>>=20 >>> I have added more nodes in the Security Considerations section. >>>=20 >>> I'm not the Adam Interpreter, but I'm seeing considerable new discussion= about the MTI security for NETCONF and RESTCONF, and about what happens if w= ritable nodes are modified by an attacker. Thank you for that.=20 >>>=20 >>> Adam said in his Discuss that he was agreeing with Ben's comments on thi= s topic, and Ben's comments included this question:=20 >>>=20 >>> Are there no nodes that are privacy (or otherwise) sensitive when just r= eadable? >>>=20 >>> I didn't see any new text about this. Are there privacy-sensitive read-o= nly nodes? >>=20 >> I took another look at nodes that are marked read-only in the YANG module= . These nodes include session state, sent and receive packet count, last seq= uence number received or transmitted, start time, repeat count, tcp/ip addre= ss and port numbers etc. Nothing jumped out as particularly privacy sensitiv= e. >=20 > In some scenarios knowing the current sequence number is useful to an > attacker, e.g., in TCP for sending off-path RST. I don't remember enough > of how TWAMP works to say offhand whether an analogous disruption is > possible in some (unauthenticated?) cases. That is correct. But we do not store the sequence number, so they would have= to snoop the traffic to get the sequence number which they can, whether the= y have the IP address/port number from the twamp module or not.=20 >=20 >> One field that did catch my attention was the =E2=80=98token=E2=80=99 fie= ld, which is defined as "This parameter holds the 64 octets containing the c= oncatenation of a 16-octet Challenge, a 16-octet AES Session-key used for en= cryption, and a 32-octet HMAC-SHA1 Session-key used for authentication; see a= lso the last paragraph of Section 6 in RFC 4656.=E2=80=9D >>=20 >> I am not a security expert, and do not know if being able to read this or= other read-only information is sufficient in itself to launch an attack or d= isrupt an existing or new session. Maybe somebody from SEC-DIR can comment o= n it. If it is, I would be happy to add some text around it.=20 >=20 > I note that secdir is not on the recipients list, so if you want to get > specific feedback, someone will need to explicitly seek it out. >=20 > I also note that the cryptographic constructions used for TWAMP are quite > diverged from current best practices and appear to be fragile at best. So= > someone doing such an analysis might have to go through a fair amount of > effort to reach a conclusion (part of why I did not attempt such analysis > myself). It might be safest to assume that being able to read the token > field gives an attacker the ability to disrupt a test session. Ok. I will write something up for the 'token' attribute.=20 >=20 > -Benjamin From nobody Mon Jul 2 01:09:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C25130E46 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 01:09:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GOUCSnfdSWNs for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 01:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A868B130E41 for ; 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Mon, 2 Jul 2018 05:34:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ippm@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.81.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <153053485731.28022.11675747458859109742@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 05:34:17 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-route-02.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 12:34:18 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Measurement WG of the IETF. Title : Advanced Unidirectional Route Assessment (AURA) Authors : José Ignacio Alvarez-Hamelin Al Morton Joachim Fabini Carlos Pignataro Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-route-02.txt Pages : 26 Date : 2018-07-02 Abstract: This memo introduces an advanced unidirectional route assessment (AURA) metric and associated measurement methodology, based on the IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) Framework RFC 2330. This memo updates RFC 2330 in the areas of path-related terminology and path description, primarily to include the possibility of parallel subpaths between a given Source and Destination pair, owing to the presence of multi- path technologies. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-route/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-route-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ippm-route-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ippm-route-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jul 2 11:32:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054DD130E08; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 11:32:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.878 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.878 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZsrEfksismmN; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 11:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C3CC130F46; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 11:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Svantevit.local (99-152-146-228.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.146.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w62IWD4t057146 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Jul 2018 13:32:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host 99-152-146-228.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.146.228] claimed to be Svantevit.local To: Mahesh Jethanandani Cc: The IESG , draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org, Nalini Elkins , ippm-chairs@ietf.org, ippm@ietf.org References: <152955610162.28620.13249468338471662781.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <063FD288-AF03-43B0-A519-5BFE418D3DC0@gmail.com> From: Adam Roach Message-ID: <8a7069c7-c818-2b47-edd6-431fa98af0fb@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 13:32:08 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <063FD288-AF03-43B0-A519-5BFE418D3DC0@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------64AB1E25FC67FEB153A4B87F" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 18:32:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------64AB1E25FC67FEB153A4B87F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for addressing the various comments I made -- your resolutions all seem good to me. One comment on the security section, below: On 6/22/18 2:14 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Thanks for the work and thought that everyone involved in this document spent. I >> find the model well described and easy to understand. >> >> I agree with Ben's comments about including more information about the privacy >> and security properties of specific entities in the module. See >> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines for specific >> guidance. >> >> Since this conflicts with normative language in RFC 6087 §3.4 (and 6087bis >> §3.7), it is a blocking defect that needs to be remedied prior to publication. > I have added more nodes in the Security Considerations section. Thanks. This is an improvement, but I'm still a bit concerned about the fact that the section speaks only in examples ("examples include" and "nodes such as") rather than explicitly identifying sensitive nodes, which is what I believe RFC 6087 anticipates. I also don't think that simply stating that the attacks that result from changing certain parameters "are obvious" is enough to satisfy either the spirit or letter of what is intended by: > In particular, writable data nodes that could be especially > disruptive if abused MUST be explicitly listed by name and the > associated security risks MUST be spelled out. > /a --------------64AB1E25FC67FEB153A4B87F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Thanks for addressing the various comments I made -- your resolutions all seem good to me. One comment on the security section, below:

On 6/22/18 2:14 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
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Thanks for the work and thought that everyone involved in this document spent. I
find the model well described and easy to understand.

I agree with Ben's comments about including more information about the privacy
and security properties of specific entities in the module. See
https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines for specific
guidance.

Since this conflicts with normative language in RFC 6087 §3.4 (and 6087bis
§3.7), it is a blocking defect that needs to be remedied prior to publication.

I have added more nodes in the Security Considerations section.

Thanks. This is an improvement, but I'm still a bit concerned about the fact that the section speaks only in examples ("examples include" and "nodes such as") rather than explicitly identifying sensitive nodes, which is what I believe RFC 6087 anticipates. I also don't think that simply stating that the attacks that result from changing certain parameters "are obvious" is enough to satisfy either the spirit or letter of what is intended by:

In particular, writable data nodes that could be especially disruptive if abused MUST be explicitly listed by name and the associated security risks MUST be spelled out.


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([2601:647:4700:1280:1df:c58b:5fe0:6a3a]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y2-v6sm41339656pfa.43.2018.07.02.12.47.15 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Jul 2018 12:47:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Mahesh Jethanandani Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D83584B9-D979-4B39-9989-A93350EFC7C8" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.4 \(3445.8.2\)) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 12:47:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: <8a7069c7-c818-2b47-edd6-431fa98af0fb@nostrum.com> Cc: The IESG , draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org, Nalini Elkins , ippm-chairs@ietf.org, ippm@ietf.org To: Adam Roach References: <152955610162.28620.13249468338471662781.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <063FD288-AF03-43B0-A519-5BFE418D3DC0@gmail.com> <8a7069c7-c818-2b47-edd6-431fa98af0fb@nostrum.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.8.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:47:22 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D83584B9-D979-4B39-9989-A93350EFC7C8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Adam, > On Jul 2, 2018, at 11:32 AM, Adam Roach wrote: >=20 > Thanks for addressing the various comments I made -- your resolutions = all seem good to me. One comment on the security section, below: >=20 > On 6/22/18 2:14 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: >> = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>=20 >>> Thanks for the work and thought that everyone involved in this = document spent. I >>> find the model well described and easy to understand. >>>=20 >>> I agree with Ben's comments about including more information about = the privacy >>> and security properties of specific entities in the module. See >>> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines = for = specific >>> guidance. >>>=20 >>> Since this conflicts with normative language in RFC 6087 =C2=A73.4 = (and 6087bis >>> =C2=A73.7), it is a blocking defect that needs to be remedied prior = to publication. >> I have added more nodes in the Security Considerations section. >=20 > Thanks. This is an improvement, but I'm still a bit concerned about = the fact that the section speaks only in examples ("examples include" = and "nodes such as") rather than explicitly identifying sensitive nodes, = which is what I believe RFC 6087 anticipates. I also don't think that = simply stating that the attacks that result from changing certain = parameters "are obvious" is enough to satisfy either the spirit or = letter of what is intended by: >=20 >> In particular, writable data nodes that could be especially = disruptive if abused MUST be explicitly listed by name and the = associated security risks MUST be spelled out. >>=20 How about this? OLD: Nodes such as 'admin-state' that cause test sessions to be created, or 'number-of-packets' that dictate how many packets are sent in any particular test session are obvious. Examples of nodes that are particularly vulnerable include several timeout values put in the protocol to protect against sessions that are not active but are consuming resources. Examples include the REFWAIT timeout parameter which determine whether to discontinue the session if no packets are received. Nodes like 'count' and 'max-count-exponent' can cause a long time to be spent on PBKDF2 iterations. In addition, nodes such as 'dscp' marked with different DSCP markings, can cause the test traffic on the network to be skewed, and the result manipulated. Finally, nodes within 'mode-preference-chain' which specify the 'mode' and 'priority' values and indicate the preferred order of use by an operator, can for example, be manipulated to send unauthenticated or non-encrypted traffic, enabling a MITM attack. Limiting access to these nodes will limit the ability to launch an attack in network environments. NEW: If written, the 'admin-state' node can cause unintended test sessions = to be=20 created. If the node 'number-of-packets' that dictates how=20 many packets are sent in any particular test session is written=20 with a large value, it can cause a test session to run longer=20 than expected. Nodes that are particularly vulnerable include several timeout values put in the protocol to protect against sessions that are not active but are consuming resources. These are the REFWAIT timeout parameter which determine whether to discontinue the session if no packets are received, and nodes 'count' and 'max-count-exponent=E2=80=99 which = can cause a long time to be spent on PBKDF2 iterations. In addition, 'dscp=E2=80=99 node marked with different DSCP markings, can cause = the test traffic on the network to be skewed, and the result manipulated. Finally, nodes within 'mode-preference-chain' which specify the 'mode' and 'priority' values and indicate the preferred order of use by an operator, can be manipulated to send unauthenticated or non-encrypted traffic, enabling a MITM attack. Limiting access to these nodes will limit the ability to launch an attack in network environments. >=20 > /a On the question of nodes that are privacy sensitive when they are = readable, here is the text I was planning on adding. "The =E2=80=98token=E2=80=99 node defined in the model, containing a = concatenation of a Challenge, AES Session-key used for encryption, and = HMAC-SHA1 Session-key used for authentication, is sensitive from a = privacy perspective, and can be used to disrupt a test session. The = ability to read the field should be limited to the administrator of the = test network.=E2=80=9D Thanks. Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --Apple-Mail=_D83584B9-D979-4B39-9989-A93350EFC7C8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi = Adam,

On Jul 2, 2018, at 11:32 AM, Adam Roach = <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:

=20 =20
Thanks for addressing the various comments I made -- your resolutions all seem good to me. One comment on the security section, below:

On 6/22/18 2:14 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
---------------------------------------------------------------= ------- 
Thanks for the work and thought that =
everyone involved in this document spent. I
find the model well described and easy to understand.

I agree with Ben's comments about including more information about the =
privacy
and security properties of specific entities in the module. See
http=
s://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines for =
specific
guidance.

Since this conflicts with normative language in RFC 6087 =C2=A73.4 (and =
6087bis
=C2=A73.7), it is a blocking defect that needs to be remedied prior to =
publication.

I have added more nodes in the Security =
Considerations section.

Thanks. This is an improvement, but I'm still a bit concerned about the fact that the section speaks only in examples ("examples include" and "nodes such as") rather than explicitly identifying sensitive nodes, which is what I believe RFC 6087 anticipates. I also don't think that simply stating that the attacks that result from changing certain parameters "are obvious" is enough to satisfy either the spirit or letter of what is intended by:

In particular, writable data nodes that could be especially disruptive if abused MUST be explicitly listed by name and the associated security risks MUST be spelled out.

How = about this?

OLD:

   Nodes such as =
'admin-state' that cause test sessions to be created,
   or 'number-of-packets' that dictate how many packets are sent in any
   particular test session are obvious.  Examples of nodes that =
are
   particularly vulnerable =
include several timeout values put in the

   protocol to protect against sessions =
that are not active but are
   consuming resources.  Examples include the REFWAIT timeout parameter
   which determine whether to discontinue the session if no packets are
   received.  Nodes like 'count' and 'max-count-exponent' can cause a
   long time to be spent on PBKDF2 iterations.  In addition, nodes such
   as 'dscp' marked with different DSCP markings, can cause the test
   traffic on the network to be skewed, and the result manipulated.
   Finally, nodes within 'mode-preference-chain' which specify the
   'mode' and 'priority' values and indicate the preferred order of use
   by an operator, can for example, be manipulated to send
   unauthenticated or non-encrypted traffic, enabling a MITM attack.
   Limiting access to these nodes will limit the ability to launch an
   attack in network environments.


NEW:

   If written, =
the 'admin-state' node can cause unintended test sessions to =
be 
   created. If =
the node 'number-of-packets' that dictates how 
   many packets are sent in any particular test =
session is written 
   with a large =
value, it can cause a test session to run longer 
   than expected.  Nodes that are
   particularly vulnerable include several =
timeout values put in the
   protocol to protect against sessions that are not active but are
   consuming resources.  These are the REFWAIT timeout parameter
   which determine whether to discontinue the session if no packets are
   received, and nodes 'count' and 'max-count-exponent=E2=80=99 which =
can cause a
   long time to be spent on PBKDF2 iterations.  In addition,
   'dscp=E2=80=99 node marked with different DSCP markings, can cause =
the test
   traffic on the network to be skewed, and the result manipulated.
   Finally, nodes within 'mode-preference-chain' which specify the
   'mode' and 'priority' values and indicate the preferred order of use
   by an operator, can be manipulated to send
   unauthenticated or non-encrypted traffic, enabling a MITM attack.
   Limiting access to these nodes will limit the ability to launch an
   attack in network environments.


/a

On the question of nodes = that are privacy sensitive when they are readable, here is the text I = was planning on adding.

"The = =E2=80=98token=E2=80=99 node defined in the model, containing a = concatenation of a Challenge, AES Session-key used for encryption, and = HMAC-SHA1 Session-key used for authentication, is sensitive from a = privacy perspective, and can be used to disrupt a test session. The = ability to read the field should be limited to the administrator of the = test network.=E2=80=9D

Thanks.

Mahesh Jethanandani
mjethanandani@gmail.com

= --Apple-Mail=_D83584B9-D979-4B39-9989-A93350EFC7C8-- From nobody Mon Jul 2 13:03:55 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCB31311C7; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 13:03:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.878 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.878 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iQJR7iCkxTVJ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 13:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDF681311C5; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 13:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Svantevit.local (99-152-146-228.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.146.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w62K3cKX072779 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Jul 2018 15:03:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host 99-152-146-228.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.146.228] claimed to be Svantevit.local To: Mahesh Jethanandani Cc: The IESG , draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org, Nalini Elkins , ippm-chairs@ietf.org, ippm@ietf.org References: <152955610162.28620.13249468338471662781.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <063FD288-AF03-43B0-A519-5BFE418D3DC0@gmail.com> <8a7069c7-c818-2b47-edd6-431fa98af0fb@nostrum.com> From: Adam Roach Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 15:03:33 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------327B2D702665B42CAF7C4BB0" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] Adam Roach's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 20:03:48 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------327B2D702665B42CAF7C4BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for a quick response! These both look good to me. I'll clear my discuss when the next version of the document comes out. /a On 7/2/18 2:47 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: > Hi Adam, > >> On Jul 2, 2018, at 11:32 AM, Adam Roach > > wrote: >> >> Thanks for addressing the various comments I made -- your resolutions >> all seem good to me. One comment on the security section, below: >> >> On 6/22/18 2:14 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Thanks for the work and thought that everyone involved in this document spent. I >>>> find the model well described and easy to understand. >>>> >>>> I agree with Ben's comments about including more information about the privacy >>>> and security properties of specific entities in the module. See >>>> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines for specific >>>> guidance. >>>> >>>> Since this conflicts with normative language in RFC 6087 §3.4 (and 6087bis >>>> §3.7), it is a blocking defect that needs to be remedied prior to publication. >>> I have added more nodes in the Security Considerations section. >> >> Thanks. This is an improvement, but I'm still a bit concerned about >> the fact that the section speaks only in examples ("examples include" >> and "nodes such as") rather than explicitly identifying sensitive >> nodes, which is what I believe RFC 6087 anticipates. I also don't >> think that simply stating that the attacks that result from changing >> certain parameters "are obvious" is enough to satisfy either the >> spirit or letter of what is intended by: >> >>> In particular, writable data nodes that could be especially >>> disruptive if abused MUST be explicitly listed by name and the >>> associated security risks MUST be spelled out. >>> > How about this? > > OLD: > > Nodes such as 'admin-state' that cause test sessions to be created, > or 'number-of-packets' that dictate how many packets are sent in any > particular test session are obvious. Examples of nodes that are > particularly vulnerable include several timeout values put in the > protocol to protect against sessions that are not active but are > consuming resources. Examples include the REFWAIT timeout parameter > which determine whether to discontinue the session if no packets are > received. Nodes like 'count' and 'max-count-exponent' can cause a > long time to be spent on PBKDF2 iterations. In addition, nodes such > as 'dscp' marked with different DSCP markings, can cause the test > traffic on the network to be skewed, and the result manipulated. > Finally, nodes within 'mode-preference-chain' which specify the > 'mode' and 'priority' values and indicate the preferred order of use > by an operator, can for example, be manipulated to send > unauthenticated or non-encrypted traffic, enabling a MITM attack. > Limiting access to these nodes will limit the ability to launch an > attack in network environments. > > > NEW: > > If written, the 'admin-state' node can cause unintended test sessions to be > created. If the node 'number-of-packets' that dictates how > many packets are sent in any particular test session is written > with a large value, it can cause a test session to run longer > than expected. Nodes that are > particularly vulnerable include several timeout values put in the > protocol to protect against sessions that are not active but are > consuming resources. These are the REFWAIT timeout parameter > which determine whether to discontinue the session if no packets are > received, and nodes 'count' and 'max-count-exponent’ which can cause a > long time to be spent on PBKDF2 iterations. In addition, > 'dscp’ node marked with different DSCP markings, can cause the test > traffic on the network to be skewed, and the result manipulated. > Finally, nodes within 'mode-preference-chain' which specify the > 'mode' and 'priority' values and indicate the preferred order of use > by an operator, can be manipulated to send > unauthenticated or non-encrypted traffic, enabling a MITM attack. > Limiting access to these nodes will limit the ability to launch an > attack in network environments. > >> >> /a > > On the question of nodes that are privacy sensitive when they are > readable, here is the text I was planning on adding. > > "The ‘token’ node defined in the model, containing a concatenation of > a Challenge, AES Session-key used for encryption, and HMAC-SHA1 > Session-key used for authentication, is sensitive from a privacy > perspective, and can be used to disrupt a test session. The ability to > read the field should be limited to the administrator of the test > network.” > > Thanks. > > Mahesh Jethanandani > mjethanandani@gmail.com > --------------327B2D702665B42CAF7C4BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for a quick response! These both look good to me. I'll clear my discuss when the next version of the document comes out.

/a

On 7/2/18 2:47 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
Hi Adam,

On Jul 2, 2018, at 11:32 AM, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:

Thanks for addressing the various comments I made -- your resolutions all seem good to me. One comment on the security section, below:

On 6/22/18 2:14 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
Thanks for the work and thought that everyone involved in this document spent. I
find the model well described and easy to understand.

I agree with Ben's comments about including more information about the privacy
and security properties of specific entities in the module. See
https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines for specific
guidance.

Since this conflicts with normative language in RFC 6087 §3.4 (and 6087bis
§3.7), it is a blocking defect that needs to be remedied prior to publication.

I have added more nodes in the Security Considerations section.

Thanks. This is an improvement, but I'm still a bit concerned about the fact that the section speaks only in examples ("examples include" and "nodes such as") rather than explicitly identifying sensitive nodes, which is what I believe RFC 6087 anticipates. I also don't think that simply stating that the attacks that result from changing certain parameters "are obvious" is enough to satisfy either the spirit or letter of what is intended by:

In particular, writable data nodes that could be especially disruptive if abused MUST be explicitly listed by name and the associated security risks MUST be spelled out.

How about this?

OLD:

   Nodes such as 'admin-state' that cause test sessions to be created,
   or 'number-of-packets' that dictate how many packets are sent in any
   particular test session are obvious.  Examples of nodes that are
   particularly vulnerable include several timeout values put in the

   protocol to protect against sessions that are not active but are
   consuming resources.  Examples include the REFWAIT timeout parameter
   which determine whether to discontinue the session if no packets are
   received.  Nodes like 'count' and 'max-count-exponent' can cause a
   long time to be spent on PBKDF2 iterations.  In addition, nodes such
   as 'dscp' marked with different DSCP markings, can cause the test
   traffic on the network to be skewed, and the result manipulated.
   Finally, nodes within 'mode-preference-chain' which specify the
   'mode' and 'priority' values and indicate the preferred order of use
   by an operator, can for example, be manipulated to send
   unauthenticated or non-encrypted traffic, enabling a MITM attack.
   Limiting access to these nodes will limit the ability to launch an
   attack in network environments.


NEW:

   If written, the 'admin-state' node can cause unintended test sessions to be 
   created. If the node 'number-of-packets' that dictates how 
   many packets are sent in any particular test session is written 
   with a large value, it can cause a test session to run longer 
   than expected.  Nodes that are
   particularly vulnerable include several timeout values put in the
   protocol to protect against sessions that are not active but are
   consuming resources.  These are the REFWAIT timeout parameter
   which determine whether to discontinue the session if no packets are
   received, and nodes 'count' and 'max-count-exponent’ which can cause a
   long time to be spent on PBKDF2 iterations.  In addition,
   'dscp’ node marked with different DSCP markings, can cause the test
   traffic on the network to be skewed, and the result manipulated.
   Finally, nodes within 'mode-preference-chain' which specify the
   'mode' and 'priority' values and indicate the preferred order of use
   by an operator, can be manipulated to send
   unauthenticated or non-encrypted traffic, enabling a MITM attack.
   Limiting access to these nodes will limit the ability to launch an
   attack in network environments.


/a

On the question of nodes that are privacy sensitive when they are readable, here is the text I was planning on adding.

"The ‘token’ node defined in the model, containing a concatenation of a Challenge, AES Session-key used for encryption, and HMAC-SHA1 Session-key used for authentication, is sensitive from a privacy perspective, and can be used to disrupt a test session. The ability to read the field should be limited to the administrator of the test network.”

Thanks.

Mahesh Jethanandani


--------------327B2D702665B42CAF7C4BB0-- From nobody Mon Jul 2 14:04:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietf.org Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACAF130DFF; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 14:03:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ippm@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.81.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <153056543265.16329.7699655105985141920@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 14:03:52 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 21:03:53 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. 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The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for addressing my discuss and comments From nobody Tue Jul 3 03:55:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3B8131276; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 03:55:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=btconnect.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4xvE9Z4mp_AM; 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Tue, 3 Jul 2018 09:00:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: ietf@kuehlewind.net, ippm@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.81.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <153063361157.4893.14557290578663805020.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 09:00:11 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] ippm - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 102 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 16:00:12 -0000 Dear Brian Trammell, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. ippm Session 1 (2:00 requested) Wednesday, 18 July 2018, Afternoon Session I 1330-1500 Room Name: Saint-Paul/Sainte-Catherine size: 100 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/sessions/ippm.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: IP Performance Measurement Area Name: Transport Area Session Requester: Brian Trammell Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 60 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: tsvarea tsvwg taps bmwg xrblock quic Second Priority: v6ops 6man 6lo sunset4 opsec tcpm Third Priority: cdni People who must be present: Al Morton Frank Brockners Spencer Dawkins Brian Trammell Gregory Mirsky Bill Cerveny Giuseppe Fioccola Resources Requested: Special Requests: Please try not to schedule opposite irtfopen, iccrg, maprg. 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Worley" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.8.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-alavarez-hamelin-tictoc-sic-01.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 12:46:08 -0000 Dear Dale, Many thanks for your comments, I will include in the next revision.=20 Best regards, J. Ignacio _______________________________________________________________ Dr. Ing. Jos=C3=A9 Ignacio Alvarez-Hamelin CONICET and Facultad de Ingenier=C3=ADa, Universidad de Buenos Aires Av. Paseo Col=C3=B3n 850 - C1063ACV - Buenos Aires - Argentina +54 (11) 5285 0716 / 5285 0705 e-mail: ihameli@cnet.fi.uba.ar web: http://cnet.fi.uba.ar/ignacio.alvarez-hamelin/ _______________________________________________________________ > On 1 Jul 2018, at 10:09, Dale R. Worley wrote: >=20 > This is a very interesting proposal. I'd suggest a couple of small > changes: >=20 > Abstract >=20 > ... with a Maximum Time Interval Error less than 25 > microseconds by a minute. >=20 > I think that "by a minute" means "after operating for one minute". = You > want the Abstract to be as clear as possible. >=20 > While synchronized absolute clocks aim on a > measurement of exact time differences between them, ... >=20 > My impression is that NTP aims on a measurement of time differences > between the clock and UTC; measurement of exact time differences = between > the clocks in an NTP peering is only a means to that end. >=20 > Dale From nobody Fri Jul 6 10:42:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA99130FFA for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 10:42:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BouC1TTyQ4ic for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 10:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf0-x22b.google.com (mail-lf0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C71AD13106D for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 10:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id a134-v6so10431226lfe.6 for ; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 10:42:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=0OuHGrCWR8CwS3hqIUip06Ez2halrRTyPeXNQxt61gg=; b=A3hUGe3XxL0ulCKIW1GBvcowzkm1mu6lWzR0/e478Eybb9D93duNsTFm59DUB3pbqK xGpB4WeHkH0MKGdFAk8nZVRP3ztiPz5UNScCzlrUi7XdJhqdCrLOVQHLt/YwbclGZ/9s 35MHLGpDElPlGGdST5BBf7bSdJWHIvMHgbODe9B+H5GJ15AAKD2Uk2k2lc0cZASWy4xa JY+1MIAXLylOeOOrk4aVx+ZOVs6WRL9BHPfkLVFk39TW2Vl5wQfbQzBcTiEnu1NU1PVx 8fIslmYYwBRorMLW1IsRoK/QfshXf8vV0bB7vVhaZGfZK9f1SXGO5VDuiw9ggvuI5n01 F0Mw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0OuHGrCWR8CwS3hqIUip06Ez2halrRTyPeXNQxt61gg=; b=hUhNKZJY51XZ4/UcLugtIi0KALOLZh/15r1hc6hpZCoHPg1j8M8JajStlnv6YlDZka IjCtQzs0YJH/vHDeEUYYRtYsN9+eLj4yIJQKVf/kotonpCJzaAFbqhY23PbxwQ/D64qO U0/SWWtxmX+EbHDQ6TiIFvtU3IGtb8K1nkphaUQl7CTgdOo9KpU60U/G2uQSymy6wR2X xN0DSuJREYOiOlDmSfUT4np41JKEg1Dm+YCF0d5Q5ltA89yTjIIiljromzEtDysPyatr 0UtwknJ8NUAcZamJ/gXUDj9qiWdUyTVYL/I08l8a8xqPW03aKeSpoXWNS6j40IcFSPwu h4zw== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E031NxvFSdrn2Xm1mrWPJwiufTYHuPJiEsfFPnM87jmz00Ad83L ASGUHkE75r5tP+0Bvmh0nUz6qZ+mmRmBAFwbKNU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeACQ0yq1P6sYSZKYWUWzGoAxCMp71JNkYrvEL9IkWZuvWLNkQCcAYq3U3+4IzDcmw3VoZkCE4ARTtc/vANJTE= X-Received: by 2002:a19:7609:: with SMTP id c9-v6mr7803276lff.73.1530898948975; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 10:42:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a2e:709:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 10:42:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <655540A0-FB1C-44AE-B148-8B8F16682C2E@trammell.ch> References: <655540A0-FB1C-44AE-B148-8B8F16682C2E@trammell.ch> From: Greg Mirsky Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 10:42:28 -0700 Message-ID: To: "Brian Trammell (IETF)" Cc: IETF IPPM WG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000a6f6f0570583093" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-01 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 17:42:38 -0000 --0000000000000a6f6f0570583093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear Brian, et.al, as co-author, I support publication of this document. I'm not aware of any IPR related to this document. Regards, Greg On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Brian Trammell (IETF) wrote: > Greetings, all, > > This message begins Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test-01, > to finish during our meeting at IETF 102 in Montreal (17:30 UTC Wednesday > 18 July 2018). > > Please send last call comments to ippm@ietf.org, indicating whether you > believe the draft is ready to send up to the IESG and if not, why not. > > Many thanks, cheers, > > Brian (as IPPM co-chair) > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > > --0000000000000a6f6f0570583093 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Brian, et.al,
as co-= author, I support publication of this document.

I&= #39;m not aware of any IPR related to this document.

Regards,
Greg

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Brian Trammell (IETF)= <ietf@trammell.ch> wrote:
= Greetings, all,

This message begins Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-<= wbr>test-01, to finish during our meeting at IETF 102 in Montreal (17:30 UT= C Wednesday 18 July 2018).

Please send last call comments to ippm@iet= f.org, indicating whether you believe the draft is ready to send up to = the IESG and if not, why not.

Many thanks, cheers,

Brian (as IPPM co-chair)

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I noted that Tom Petch had flagged Looking at -13, it has bit unauth-test-encrpyt-control { which AM thought should be bit unauth-test-encrypt-control { which he had previously flagged in -12. He also mentioned And s.5.2 has Advances Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312], which I think should be Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312], Which seems to be new. Are these proposed changes correct? Is this citation [UML] ISO/IEC, "Information technology - Open Distributed Processing - Unified Modeling Language", April 2005. sufficient for the expected reader? I noted that Adam's question mentioned "ISO/IEC 19501:2005", which seems like a helpful detail if someone were chasing the reference. Just let me know. I'm happy to do these as RFC Editor notes, if they're correct. Spencer On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 4:05 PM wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Measurement WG of the IETF. > > Title : Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) Data > Model > Authors : Ruth Civil > Al Morton > Reshad Rahman > Mahesh Jethanandani > Kostas Pentikousis > Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt > Pages : 68 > Date : 2018-07-02 > > Abstract: > This document specifies a data model for client and server > implementations of the Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP). > The document defines the TWAMP data model through Unified Modeling > Language (UML) class diagrams and formally specifies it using a NDMA- > compliant YANG model. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > --0000000000007f31f60570a9ba3b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Authors,

I think I'm within na= noseconds of sending an Approved note for this draft, but then noticed a co= uple of things I wanted to ask about first.

I noted= that Tom Petch had flagged

Looking at -13, it has=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0bit unauth-test-enc= rpyt-control {
which AM thought should be
<= div>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0bit unauth-test-encrypt-control = {

which he had previously = flagged in -12.=C2=A0

He also mentioned=C2=A0

And s.5.2 has
Advances Stream and= Sampling Framework [RFC7312],
which I think should be=
Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312],

Which seems to be new.=C2=A0<= /div>

Are these proposed changes correct?=C2=A0

Is this citation

=C2=A0 =C2=A0[UML]=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ISO/IEC, &qu= ot;Information technology - Open Distributed
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Processing - Unified Modeling Lan= guage", April 2005.

sufficient for the expect= ed reader? I noted that Adam's question mentioned "ISO/IEC 19501:2= 005", which seems like a helpful detail if someone were chasing the re= ference.=C2=A0

Just let me know. I'm happy to = do these as RFC Editor notes, if they're correct.

<= div>Spencer

On Mon, Ju= l 2, 2018 at 4:05 PM <intern= et-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Measurement WG of the IETF.=

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) Data Model
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Ruth= Civil
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Al Morton
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Reshad Rahman
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mahesh Jethanandani
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Kostas Pentikousis
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet= f-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 68
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2018-07-02

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document specifies a data model for client and server
=C2=A0 =C2=A0implementations of the Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TW= AMP).
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The document defines the TWAMP data model through Unified Mode= ling
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Language (UML) class diagrams and formally specifies it using = a NDMA-
=C2=A0 =C2=A0compliant YANG model.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-i= etf-ippm-twamp-yang/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ip= pm-twamp-yang-13
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/= html/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2= =3Ddraft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

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([2601:647:4700:1280:11e2:a342:d14e:a91a]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e81-v6sm45230633pfb.62.2018.07.10.13.15.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:15:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Mahesh Jethanandani Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_85255F4E-CEE2-4385-A3EA-C34648395E30" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.4 \(3445.8.2\)) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:15:57 -0700 In-Reply-To: Cc: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org, Mirja Kuehlewind , ippm@ietf.org To: Spencer Dawkins at IETF References: <153056543265.16329.7699655105985141920@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.8.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:16:03 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_85255F4E-CEE2-4385-A3EA-C34648395E30 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Spencer, > On Jul 10, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF = wrote: >=20 > Dear Authors, >=20 > I think I'm within nanoseconds of sending an Approved note for this = draft, but then noticed a couple of things I wanted to ask about first. >=20 > I noted that Tom Petch had flagged >=20 > Looking at -13, it has > bit unauth-test-encrpyt-control { > which AM thought should be > bit unauth-test-encrypt-control { >=20 > which he had previously flagged in -12.=20 Thanks for catching this. Yes it should be=20 bit unauth-test-encrypt-control { >=20 > He also mentioned=20 >=20 > And s.5.2 has > Advances Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312], > which I think should be > Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312], >=20 > Which seems to be new.=20 Hmm. I seem to be missing his e-mail that catches that, but I can see it = in the draft. So yes, it should be: Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework[RFC7312], >=20 > Are these proposed changes correct?=20 Yes. >=20 > Is this citation >=20 > [UML] ISO/IEC, "Information technology - Open = Distributed=09 > Processing - Unified Modeling Language", April = 2005. >=20 > sufficient for the expected reader? I noted that Adam's question = mentioned "ISO/IEC 19501:2005", which seems like a helpful detail if = someone were chasing the reference.=20 Yes, I agree it would be helpful to have that reference. >=20 > Just let me know. I'm happy to do these as RFC Editor notes, if = they're correct. Thank you. >=20 > Spencer >=20 > On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 4:05 PM > wrote: >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Measurement WG of the = IETF. >=20 > Title : Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) = Data Model > Authors : Ruth Civil > Al Morton > Reshad Rahman > Mahesh Jethanandani > Kostas Pentikousis > Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt > Pages : 68 > Date : 2018-07-02 >=20 > Abstract: > This document specifies a data model for client and server > implementations of the Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP). > The document defines the TWAMP data model through Unified Modeling > Language (UML) class diagrams and formally specifies it using a = NDMA- > compliant YANG model. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/ = >=20 > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13 = > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13 = >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13 = >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org = . >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ = >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm = Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --Apple-Mail=_85255F4E-CEE2-4385-A3EA-C34648395E30 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = Spencer,

On Jul 10, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Spencer Dawkins = at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Authors,

I think I'm within nanoseconds of sending an Approved note = for this draft, but then noticed a couple of things I wanted to ask = about first.

I noted that Tom Petch had flagged

Looking at -13, it has
         bit = unauth-test-encrpyt-control {
which AM thought should be
         bit = unauth-test-encrypt-control {

which he had previously = flagged in -12. 

Thanks for catching this. Yes it should = be 
bit unauth-test-encrypt-control {

He also mentioned 

And s.5.2 has
Advances Stream and Sampling Framework = [RFC7312],
which I think = should be
Advanced Stream and = Sampling Framework [RFC7312],

Which seems to be = new. 

Hmm. I seem to be missing his e-mail that catches that, = but I can see it in the draft. So yes, it should be:

Advanced Stream and Sampling = Framework[RFC7312],


Are these proposed changes = correct? 

Yes.


Is this citation

  =  [UML]      ISO/IEC, "Information technology - Open = Distributed =
                = Processing - Unified Modeling Language", April 2005.

sufficient for the = expected reader? I noted that Adam's question mentioned "ISO/IEC = 19501:2005", which seems like a helpful detail if someone were chasing = the reference. 

Yes, I agree it would be helpful to have that = reference.


Just let me know. I'm happy to do these as RFC Editor notes, = if they're correct.

Thank you.


Spencer

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 4:05 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories.
This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Measurement WG of the = IETF.

        Title          =  : Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) Data Model
        Authors         : = Ruth Civil
                    =       Al Morton
                    =       Reshad Rahman
                    =       Mahesh Jethanandani
                    =       Kostas Pentikousis
        Filename        : = draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt
        Pages          =  : 68
        Date          =   : 2018-07-02

Abstract:
   This document specifies a data model for client and = server
   implementations of the Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol = (TWAMP).
   The document defines the TWAMP data model through Unified = Modeling
   Language (UML) class diagrams and formally specifies it = using a NDMA-
   compliant YANG model.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
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I noted that Tom Petch had flagged Looking at -13, it has bit unauth-test-encrpyt-control { which AM thought should be bit unauth-test-encrypt-control { which he had previously flagged in -12. Thanks for catching this. Yes it should be bit unauth-test-encrypt-control { He also mentioned And s.5.2 has Advances Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312], which I think should be Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312], Which seems to be new. Hmm. I seem to be missing his e-mail that catches that, but I can see it in= the draft. So yes, it should be: Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework[RFC7312], Are these proposed changes correct? Yes. [acm] Let's add these as OLD/NEW to the REF Editor, Tom said that was fine... Is this citation [UML] ISO/IEC, "Information technology - Open Distributed Processing - Unified Modeling Language", April 2005= . sufficient for the expected reader? I noted that Adam's question mentioned = "ISO/IEC 19501:2005", which seems like a helpful detail if someone were cha= sing the reference. Yes, I agree it would be helpful to have that reference. [acm] It seems that the Title is not enough for a popular search engine to find the right standard. I also learned that there is a related spec by searching with the title: https://www.iso.org/standard/68641.html ISO/IEC 19793:2015 Only searching with the exact number did I get the right spec. Note that the exact title is a little longer: ISO/IEC 19501:2005 (OMG-UML VER 1.3) Information technology -- Open Distributed Processing -- Unified Modeling Language (UML) Version 1.4.2 We can handle this with an OLD/NEW as well, IMO. Al Just let me know. I'm happy to do these as RFC Editor notes, if they're cor= rect. Thank you. Spencer On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 4:05 PM > wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Measurement WG of the IETF. Title : Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) Data = Model Authors : Ruth Civil Al Morton Reshad Rahman Mahesh Jethanandani Kostas Pentikousis Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt Pages : 68 Date : 2018-07-02 Abstract: This document specifies a data model for client and server implementations of the Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP). The document defines the TWAMP data model through Unified Modeling Language (UML) class diagrams and formally specifies it using a NDMA- compliant YANG model. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --_000_4D7F4AD313D3FC43A053B309F97543CF4A93714Dnjmtexg4researc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Spencer,

 

Since I was investigating ion parallel, let me= add:

 <= /span>

From: Mahesh Jethanandani [mailto:mj= ethanandani@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 4:16 PM
To: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Cc: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org; Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@k= uehlewind.net>; ippm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt

 

Hi Spencer,



On Jul 10, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IET= F <spencerdawkins.ietf@= gmail.com> wrote:

 

Dear Authors,

 

I think I'm within nanoseconds of sending an Approve= d note for this draft, but then noticed a couple of things I wanted to ask = about first.

 

I noted that Tom Petch had flagged

 

Looking at -13, it has

         bit unauth-test-en= crpyt-control {

which AM thought should be

         bit unauth-test-en= crypt-control {

 

which he had previously flagged in -12. 

 

Thanks for catching this. Yes it should be 

bit unauth-test-encrypt-control {



 

He also mentioned 

 

And s.5.2 has

Advances Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312],

which I think should be

Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312],

 

Which seems to be new. 

 

Hmm. I seem to be missing his e-mail that catches th= at, but I can see it in the draft. So yes, it should be:

 

Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework[RFC7312],



 

Are these proposed changes correct? =

 

Yes.

[acm]

 

Let’s add these as OLD/NEW to the = REF Editor, Tom said that was fine...



 

Is this citation

 

        &nbs= p;    [UML]      ISO/IEC, "Information techno= logy - Open Distributed   

        &nbs= p;               Processing - Unified Mo= deling Language", April 2005.

 

sufficient for the expected reader? I noted that Ada= m's question mentioned "ISO/IEC 19501:2005", which seems like a h= elpful detail if someone were chasing the reference. 

 

Yes, I agree it would be helpful to have that refere= nce.

[acm]

It seems that the Title is not enough for a po= pular search engine

to find the right standard.  I also learn= ed that there is a

related spec by searching with the title:=

 

https://www.iso.org/standard/68641.html ISO/IEC 19793:2015

 

Only searching with the exact number did I get= the right spec.

Note that the exact title is a little longer:<= o:p>

 

ISO/IEC 19501:2= 005 (OMG-UML VER 1.3)

Information technology -- Open Distributed = Processing

-- Unified Modeling Language (UML) Version = 1.4.2

 

We can handle this with an OLD/NEW as well, IM= O.

 

Al

 



 

Just let me know. I'm happy to do these as RFC Edito= r notes, if they're correct.

 

Thank you.



 

Spencer

 

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 4:05 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Measurement WG of the IETF.=

        Title           := Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) Data Model
        Authors         : Ruth= Civil
                     = ;     Al Morton
                     = ;     Reshad Rahman
                     = ;     Mahesh Jethanandani
                     = ;     Kostas Pentikousis
        Filename        : draft-iet= f-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt
        Pages           := 68
        Date            := 2018-07-02

Abstract:
   This document specifies a data model for client and server
   implementations of the Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TW= AMP).
   The document defines the TWAMP data model through Unified Mode= ling
   Language (UML) class diagrams and formally specifies it using = a NDMA-
   compliant YANG model.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-= ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i= ppm-twamp-yang-13
https://datatracker.ietf.org/d= oc/html/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?u= rl2=3Ddraft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
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Hi Spencer, Since I was investigating in parallel, let me add: From: Mahesh Jethanandani [mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 4:16 PM To: Spencer Dawkins at IETF Cc: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org; Mirja Kuehlewind ; ippm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt Hi Spencer, On Jul 10, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF > wrote: Dear Authors, I think I'm within nanoseconds of sending an Approved note for this draft, = but then noticed a couple of things I wanted to ask about first. I noted that Tom Petch had flagged Looking at -13, it has bit unauth-test-encrpyt-control { which AM thought should be bit unauth-test-encrypt-control { which he had previously flagged in -12. Thanks for catching this. Yes it should be bit unauth-test-encrypt-control { He also mentioned And s.5.2 has Advances Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312], which I think should be Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312], Which seems to be new. Hmm. I seem to be missing his e-mail that catches that, but I can see it in= the draft. So yes, it should be: Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework[RFC7312], Are these proposed changes correct? Yes. [acm] Let's add these as OLD/NEW to the REF Editor, Tom said that was fine... Is this citation [UML] ISO/IEC, "Information technology - Open Distributed Processing - Unified Modeling Language", April 2005= . sufficient for the expected reader? I noted that Adam's question mentioned = "ISO/IEC 19501:2005", which seems like a helpful detail if someone were cha= sing the reference. Yes, I agree it would be helpful to have that reference. [acm] It seems that the Title is not enough for a popular search engine to find the right standard. I also learned that there is a related spec by searching with the title: https://www.iso.org/standard/68641.html ISO/IEC 19793:2015 Only searching with the exact number did I get the right spec. Note that the exact title is a little longer: ISO/IEC 19501:2005 (OMG-UML VER 1.3) Information technology -- Open Distributed Processing -- Unified Modeling Language (UML) Version 1.4.2 We can handle this with an OLD/NEW as well, IMO. Al Just let me know. I'm happy to do these as RFC Editor notes, if they're cor= rect. Thank you. Spencer On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 4:05 PM > wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Measurement WG of the IETF. Title : Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) Data = Model Authors : Ruth Civil Al Morton Reshad Rahman Mahesh Jethanandani Kostas Pentikousis Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt Pages : 68 Date : 2018-07-02 Abstract: This document specifies a data model for client and server implementations of the Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP). The document defines the TWAMP data model through Unified Modeling Language (UML) class diagrams and formally specifies it using a NDMA- compliant YANG model. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --_000_4D7F4AD313D3FC43A053B309F97543CF4A937164njmtexg4researc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I’m re-sending, because the message came= back from the

IETF alias system truncated, and info on the r= eference

was not included...

 

Hi Spencer,

 

Since I was investigating in parallel, let me = add:

 

From: Mahesh Jethanandani [mailto:mj= ethanandani@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 4:16 PM
To: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Cc: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org; Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@k= uehlewind.net>; ippm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt

 

Hi Spencer,

 

On Jul 10, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IET= F <spencerdawkins.ietf@= gmail.com> wrote:

 

Dear Authors,

 

I think I'm within nanoseconds of sending an Approve= d note for this draft, but then noticed a couple of things I wanted to ask = about first.

 

I noted that Tom Petch had flagged

 

Looking at -13, it has

         bit unauth-test-en= crpyt-control {

which AM thought should be

         bit unauth-test-en= crypt-control {

 

which he had previously flagged in -12. 

 

Thanks for catching this. Yes it should be 

bit unauth-test-encrypt-control {

 

 

He also mentioned 

 

And s.5.2 has

Advances Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312],

which I think should be

Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312],

 

Which seems to be new. 

 

Hmm. I seem to be missing his e-mail that catches th= at, but I can see it in the draft. So yes, it should be:

 

Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework[RFC7312],

 

 

Are these proposed changes correct? =

 

Yes.

[acm]

 

Let’s add these as OLD/NEW to the = REF Editor, Tom said that was fine...

 

 

Is this citation

 

        &nbs= p;    [UML]      ISO/IEC, "Information techno= logy - Open Distributed   

        &nbs= p;               Processing - Unified Mo= deling Language", April 2005.

 

sufficient for the expected reader? I noted that Ada= m's question mentioned "ISO/IEC 19501:2005", which seems like a h= elpful detail if someone were chasing the reference. 

 

Yes, I agree it would be helpful to have that refere= nce.

[acm]

It seems that the Title is not enough for a po= pular search engine

to find the right standard.  I also learn= ed that there is a

related spec by searching with the title:=

 

https://www.iso.org/standard/68641.html ISO/IEC 19793:2015

 

Only searching with the exact number did I get= the right spec.

Note that the exact title is a little longer:<= o:p>

 

ISO/IEC 19501:2= 005 (OMG-UML VER 1.3)

Information technology -- Open Distributed = Processing

-- Unified Modeling Language (UML) Version = 1.4.2

 

We can handle this with an OLD/NEW as well, IM= O.

 

Al

 

 

 

Just let me know. I'm happy to do these as RFC Edito= r notes, if they're correct.

 

Thank you.

 

 

Spencer

 

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 4:05 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Measurement WG of the IETF.=

        Title           := Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) Data Model
        Authors         : Ruth= Civil
                     = ;     Al Morton
                     = ;     Reshad Rahman
                     = ;     Mahesh Jethanandani
                     = ;     Kostas Pentikousis
        Filename        : draft-iet= f-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt
        Pages           := 68
        Date            := 2018-07-02

Abstract:
   This document specifies a data model for client and server
   implementations of the Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TW= AMP).
   The document defines the TWAMP data model through Unified Mode= ling
   Language (UML) class diagrams and formally specifies it using = a NDMA-
   compliant YANG model.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-= ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i= ppm-twamp-yang-13
https://datatracker.ietf.org/d= oc/html/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?u= rl2=3Ddraft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

_______________________________________________
ippm mailing list
ippm@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm

 

Mahesh Jethanandani

 

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Al > -----Original Message----- > From: MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 4:38 PM > To: Mahesh Jethanandani ; Spencer Dawkins at IET= F > > Cc: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org; Mirja Kuehlewind > ; ippm@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt >=20 > *** Security Advisory: This Message Originated Outside of AT&T ***. > Reference http://cso.att.com/EmailSecurity/IDSP.html for more information= . >=20 > I'm re-sending, because the message came back from the > IETF alias system truncated, and info on the reference > was not included... >=20 > Hi Spencer, >=20 > Since I was investigating in parallel, let me add: >=20 > From: Mahesh Jethanandani [mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 4:16 PM > To: Spencer Dawkins at IETF > Cc: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org; Mirja Kuehlewind > ; ippm@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt >=20 > Hi Spencer, >=20 > On Jul 10, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF > > > wrote: >=20 > Dear Authors, >=20 > I think I'm within nanoseconds of sending an Approved note for this draft= , > but then noticed a couple of things I wanted to ask about first. >=20 > I noted that Tom Petch had flagged >=20 > Looking at -13, it has > bit unauth-test-encrpyt-control { > which AM thought should be > bit unauth-test-encrypt-control { >=20 > which he had previously flagged in -12. >=20 > Thanks for catching this. Yes it should be > bit unauth-test-encrypt-control { >=20 >=20 > He also mentioned >=20 > And s.5.2 has > Advances Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312], > which I think should be > Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312], >=20 > Which seems to be new. >=20 > Hmm. I seem to be missing his e-mail that catches that, but I can see it > in the draft. So yes, it should be: >=20 > Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework[RFC7312], >=20 >=20 > Are these proposed changes correct? >=20 > Yes. > [acm] >=20 > Let's add these as OLD/NEW to the REF Editor, Tom said that was fine... >=20 >=20 > Is this citation >=20 > [UML] ISO/IEC, "Information technology - Open > Distributed > Processing - Unified Modeling Language", April > 2005 From nobody Tue Jul 10 20:28:27 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F34130EC0; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:28:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rtlRQqVLt0VJ; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-x22a.google.com (mail-yw0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72700130E30; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id j68-v6so8656177ywg.1; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:28:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nrqh/n/I99CkSM2Zke7k3XI/1B2F4y7KJuRGzs490co=; b=VMteF9v9L3oMrSs7yIcW3mowL4DiJYnOVaKOS0OajJdicFl8hsKDrTAxxIIJipr47G 7LWjGlsYS9uOb6XCQBqhB3HzmZaCmaNTbbw1Eb+K/1jbHhvgSv7yfsA1V/I6hNRvBhjJ LR3TLiGA6xaSPhjeJHkIqj8ydIu0ygB3EVksoXrrxB7uKp2Ae8DRgcoZL231wzusDYTk 45zHMHIrJtmwosQwFzLQjLk97nPQLY9uKAlozGlWr66kIDvwH/WwE34X8JfqbaoQghbC apK5iaYpdjkWPArvEr4d4q+KoMMjFusOthz+rN3CydAb+yFmpAtM/9FnXRZbgTRjGXP7 IQWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nrqh/n/I99CkSM2Zke7k3XI/1B2F4y7KJuRGzs490co=; b=pXpJnyLC+ejAZjvZQAcY3nY8MfRQuUADvMThGEq1Em7LvqC4tjK9/d4ecy7H5rsii/ mhUw1P9U1rek7ZWfI4HPl/jbJqQht2kYTDtME9KXHswR7okWk7X00WjtdPQHAESh2Ruq 5QCE6m+2yJOsDOFV/NY8pfzLc17EiFxrCcU/uuyxAvuMH5goJUqgYlQGKJSJ4HBPytdF fWplCM7OULQOZMFvJOevWsvdvffry88+vNcmEiULhrhGkQhq5mB09lIqVJXsPZkmka9j AB7jBwwte0CtLhLkQKbmNp49APLSG8YzWX5sy9wroL+o6wY5L5X+skMWvgNCWSW71gtS q1ag== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1n7IwlGIi3zGKJqdKKlPhjrBzOK96by/SnY+8Oxul3kQwXFe0c Oon2ipH5L55+rSnES7E1Xg2TW1Q9tOc+XEppfjo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeyFyh9MJ8TTA9ndh3cnehtvby8B1WjEPBwlVV1TiS9CulaSYJwpKUi/An5Y7YMsBdv7TunhuHTUVpBk1ootc0= X-Received: by 2002:a81:86c4:: with SMTP id w187-v6mr13440671ywf.424.1531279701594; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:28:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <153056543265.16329.7699655105985141920@ietfa.amsl.com> <4D7F4AD313D3FC43A053B309F97543CF4A937164@njmtexg4.research.att.com> <4D7F4AD313D3FC43A053B309F97543CF4A937261@njmtexg4.research.att.com> In-Reply-To: <4D7F4AD313D3FC43A053B309F97543CF4A937261@njmtexg4.research.att.com> From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 22:28:11 -0500 Message-ID: To: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" Cc: Mahesh Jethanandani , draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org, Mirja Kuehlewind , ippm@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000aa589f0570b0d669" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 03:28:26 -0000 --000000000000aa589f0570b0d669 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Al, On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 5:19 PM MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) wrote: > The truncation happened at the same place, > where I inserted some URLS & text. > > At least it's deterministic. > I'll try again later... > Since you're sending this directly to me, I got untruncated copies, and was able to add the RFC Editor Notes you and Manesh approved, and sent the Approved note to the IESG Secretary. I THINK you can see them at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/writeup/ (but I'm logged in as an AD), so please let me know if you can't see them, and we'll work around that. Thanks for all your hard work. You should see the announcement for this draft tomorrow (unless the entire secretariat is flying to Montreal). It is also the latest addition to the AD slides on completed work since IETF 101 for TSVAREA ... Spencer --000000000000aa589f0570b0d669 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Al,
On = Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 5:19 PM MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acm@research.att.com> wrote:
The truncation happened at the same= place,
where I inserted some URLS & text.

At least it's deterministic.
I'll try again later...

Since you&#= 39;re sending this directly to me, I got untruncated copies, and was able t= o add the RFC Editor Notes you and Manesh approved, and sent the Approved n= ote to the IESG Secretary.=C2=A0

I THINK you can s= ee them at=C2=A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-twam= p-yang/writeup/ (but I'm logged in as an AD), so please let me know= if you can't see them, and we'll work around that.

<= /div>
Thanks for all your hard work. You should see the announcement fo= r this draft tomorrow (unless the entire secretariat is flying to Montreal)= .=C2=A0

It is also the latest addition to the AD s= lides on completed work since IETF 101 for TSVAREA ...=C2=A0

=
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spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <153131907675.22038.13503897627207146081.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 07:24:36 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] Protocol Action: 'Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) Data Model' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:24:43 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) Data Model' (draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the IP Performance Measurement Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Mirja Kühlewind and Spencer Dawkins. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/ Technical Summary This document specifies a data model for client and server implementations of the Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP). The TWAMP data model is described through Unified Modeling Language (UML) class diagrams and formally specified using YANG. The Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) [RFC5357] is used to measure network performance parameters such as latency, bandwidth, and packet loss by sending probe packets and measuring their experience in the network. To date, TWAMP implementations do not come with a standard management framework and, as such, configuration depends on proprietary mechanisms developed by the corresponding TWAMP vendor. This document addresses this gap by formally specifying the TWAMP data model using YANG. Working Group Summary This document was presented and discussed in IETF96, IETF97, IETF98 and IETF99. There has also been discussion on the email list. There were questions raised as to the inclusion of TWAMP Light in this document. The consensus was that TWAMP Light is not adequately specified as a protocol to base a YANG model on. Document Quality The document was reviewed and comments were provided in both the IETF meetings and on the IPPM WG mailing list. A YANG doctors review was requested for the YANG module in the document and was provided by Jan Lindblad. A number of Jan's suggestions were implemented. AT&T has an implementation. Viavi was working on an implementation for testing Ethernet. Personnel The Document Shepherd is Nalini Elkins. The Responsible Area Director is Spencer Dawkins. RFC Editor Note OLD bit unauth-test-encrpyt-control { NEW bit unauth-test-encrypt-control { OLD This section presents the YANG module for the TWAMP data model defined in this document. The module imports definitions from Common YANG Data Types [RFC6991], and references NTPv4 Specification [RFC5905], Framework for IP Performance Metrics [RFC2330], Randomness Requirements for Security [RFC4086], OWAMP [RFC4656], TWAMP [RFC5357], More Features for TWAMP [RFC5618], Individual Session Control Feature [RFC5938], TWAMP Reflect Octets and Symmetrical Size Features [RFC6038], Advances Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312], IKEv2-Derived Shared Secret Key for OWAMP and TWAMP [RFC7717], and OWAMP and TWAMP Well-Known Port Assignments [I-D.ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test]. NEW This section presents the YANG module for the TWAMP data model defined in this document. The module imports definitions from Common YANG Data Types [RFC6991], and references NTPv4 Specification [RFC5905], Framework for IP Performance Metrics [RFC2330], Randomness Requirements for Security [RFC4086], OWAMP [RFC4656], TWAMP [RFC5357], More Features for TWAMP [RFC5618], Individual Session Control Feature [RFC5938], TWAMP Reflect Octets and Symmetrical Size Features [RFC6038], Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework [RFC7312], IKEv2-Derived Shared Secret Key for OWAMP and TWAMP [RFC7717], and OWAMP and TWAMP Well-Known Port Assignments [I-D.ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test]. OLD [UML] ISO/IEC, "Information technology - Open Distributed Processing - Unified Modeling Language", April 2005. NEW [UML] ISO/IEC, "Information technology - Open Distributed Processing - Unified Modeling Language (UML) Version 1.4.2", April 2005. 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([2601:647:4700:1280:758e:926a:391:f9d6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h10-v6sm9516474pfj.78.2018.07.11.07.59.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Jul 2018 07:59:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Mahesh Jethanandani Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_17B023F9-2C16-4655-B75E-40E70636E65B" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.4 \(3445.8.2\)) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 07:59:22 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4D7F4AD313D3FC43A053B309F97543CF4A937465@njmtexg4.research.att.com> Cc: Spencer Dawkins at IETF , "draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org" , Mirja Kuehlewind , "ippm@ietf.org" To: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" References: <153056543265.16329.7699655105985141920@ietfa.amsl.com> <4D7F4AD313D3FC43A053B309F97543CF4A937164@njmtexg4.research.att.com> <4D7F4AD313D3FC43A053B309F97543CF4A937261@njmtexg4.research.att.com> <4D7F4AD313D3FC43A053B309F97543CF4A937465@njmtexg4.research.att.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.8.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:59:27 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_17B023F9-2C16-4655-B75E-40E70636E65B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 +1 > On Jul 11, 2018, at 4:47 AM, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) = wrote: >=20 > The write-up looks good to me, Spencer. > =20 > Thank you for your many good suggestions > and AD-level shepherding of this and many > other IPPM drafts! It has been a pleasure > working with you in your AD-Advisor capacity. > =20 > Al > =C2=A0 <> > From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF [mailto:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com]=20= > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:28 PM > To: MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) > Cc: Mahesh Jethanandani ; = draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org; Mirja Kuehlewind = ; ippm@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt > =20 > Hi, Al, > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 5:19 PM MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) = > wrote: > The truncation happened at the same place,=20 > where I inserted some URLS & text. >=20 > At least it's deterministic. > I'll try again later... > =20 > Since you're sending this directly to me, I got untruncated copies, = and was able to add the RFC Editor Notes you and Manesh approved, and = sent the Approved note to the IESG Secretary.=20 > =20 > I THINK you can see them at = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/writeup/ = = (but I'm logged in as an AD), so please let me know if you can't see = them, and we'll work around that. > =20 > Thanks for all your hard work. You should see the announcement for = this draft tomorrow (unless the entire secretariat is flying to = Montreal).=20 > =20 > It is also the latest addition to the AD slides on completed work = since IETF 101 for TSVAREA ...=20 > =20 > Spencer Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --Apple-Mail=_17B023F9-2C16-4655-B75E-40E70636E65B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii +1

On Jul 11, 2018, at 4:47 AM, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acm@research.att.com> wrote:

The write-up looks good to me, Spencer.
 
Thank you for = your many good suggestions
and AD-level = shepherding of this and many
other IPPM = drafts!  It has been a pleasure
working with you in your AD-Advisor capacity.
 
Al
From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF [mailto:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 = 11:28 PM
To: MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) = <acm@research.att.com>
Cc: Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>; draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang@ietf.org; Mirja Kuehlewind = <ietf@kuehlewind.net>; ippm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [ippm] I-D Action: = draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang-13.txt
 
Hi, Al,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at = 5:19 PM MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acm@research.att.com> wrote:
The = truncation happened at the same place, 
where I = inserted some URLS & text.

At least = it's deterministic.
I'll try again later...
 
Since you're sending this directly to = me, I got untruncated copies, and was able to add the RFC Editor Notes = you and Manesh approved, and sent the Approved note to the IESG = Secretary. 
 
I THINK you can see them at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-yang/wri= teup/ (but I'm = logged in as an AD), so please let me know if you can't see them, and = we'll work around that.
 
Thanks for all your hard work. You = should see the announcement for this draft tomorrow (unless the entire = secretariat is flying to Montreal). 
 
It is also = the latest addition to the AD slides on completed work since IETF 101 = for TSVAREA ... 
 
Spencer
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Mahesh Jethanandani
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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b64fdd057136facd" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ippm] New Draft draft-gandhi-spring-udp-pm X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 19:30:37 -0000 --000000000000b64fdd057136facd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Rakesh, thank you for bringing this draft up for discussion. There was not enough time to ask questions at the SPRING WG meeting and this is a very good opportunity. I understand that you've proposed to use RFC 6374 to encode PM operations and measurements. Also, you've referenced work on OWAMP and TWAMP. But I don't find any reference to STAMP in the draft. How would you position STAMP, its optional extensions , and YANG model in comparison with your new draft? Regards, Greg On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 6:57 AM, Rakesh Gandhi (rgandhi) < rgandhi=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > Hi WG, > > > > We like to introduce following new draft that was presented to SPRING WG > yesterday. > > > > This draft defines IP/UDP path for sending probe query messages for delay > and loss measurement that is agnostics to data plane (SR-MPLS/SRv6/IP) and > does not require to bootstrap PM session. > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gandhi-spring-udp-pm/ > > > > You may find presentation in the following package (it is the second > draft). > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides- > 102-spring-13-performance-measurement-in-sr-networks-00 > > > > We welcome your comments and suggestions. > > > > Thanks, > > Rakesh (On behalf of authors and contributors) > > > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > > --000000000000b64fdd057136facd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Rakesh,
thank you for bringing this draft up for di= scussion. There was not enough time to ask questions at the SPRING WG meeti= ng and this is a very good opportunity.=C2=A0
I understand that y= ou've proposed to use RFC 6374 to encode PM operations and measurements= . Also, you've referenced work on OWAMP and TWAMP. But I don't find= any reference to STAMP in the draft. How would you position STAMP, its opti= onal extensions, and YANG model=C2=A0in comparison with your new draft?<= /div>

Regards,
Greg

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 6:57 AM,= Rakesh Gandhi (rgandhi) <rgandhi=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.i= etf.org> wrote:

Hi W= G,

<= /u>=C2=A0

We l= ike to introduce following new draft that was presented to SPRING WG yester= day.

<= /u>=C2=A0

This= draft defines IP/UDP path for sending probe query messages for delay and l= oss measurement that is agnostics to data plane (SR-MPLS/SRv6/IP) and does = not require to bootstrap PM session.

<= /u>=C2=A0

https://datatracker.ie= tf.org/doc/draft-gandhi-spring-udp-pm/

<= /u>=C2=A0

You = may find presentation in the following package (it is the second draft).=

<= /u>=C2=A0

https://da= tatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-spring-13-per= formance-measurement-in-sr-networks-00

<= /u>=C2=A0

We w= elcome your comments and suggestions.

<= /u>=C2=A0

Than= ks,

Rake= sh (On behalf of authors and contributors)

<= /u>=C2=A0


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--000000000000b64fdd057136facd-- From nobody Wed Jul 18 08:40:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB3B1311B4; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:40:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1USdHRGZ4yN4; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lj1-x230.google.com (mail-lj1-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 466281311AC; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x230.google.com with SMTP id q5-v6so4485892ljh.12; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:40:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=89/g6lmudyubOw3CYE+Ga29j/3GEq5c/OFTWW78/ek4=; b=nn1H7kdGzAieu+4SajiW+tVRBsTzCpNvA/hs9TVTAZ9tZWvsmBuG2mC0LsvO7YHJyJ tGm8ifKacqOOrhtI5UQjkotwAe3qrMZt7sEHeXV6cMP/13B6uRDD/MJW3O2IjFwNfIzI 2a+x+Y9VYiUSlyN28fUvMHDWJHT3AhX0mlbEy97CakX9asvSqSOCvsNOunXYzSBDE4WE wShgBu7GptrdB4uObQk+niq459n0AOhi6o8Stch5djMy2lhI6w1rmt67fVH6WpWDAazP zx/cfChJKPcjuYSNgvkg7wJ6NkJE79w1Zx+YT3GAjLk3rx3d6mxL9c1Vh/mRAT3zQsm+ Yfzw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=89/g6lmudyubOw3CYE+Ga29j/3GEq5c/OFTWW78/ek4=; b=Xhusvwfs6a0a5GFVCsfqEsf6a27BIRrWAfoVVzRpJP/BnFVNaSxasJHTbGjg8FEBXQ S9mDIXXFin+1tsEFuVph3HF02VkaXb8JoAhqzQl5KEiHrGUOnS33UDAvlE23YQjhz3js Sw9GQmt8jVKP/gmntEGTurzMgzwQIQMyYHH0mdphI1O28Pl0q2m+q0z3rDiFGqVnwQr/ 4/yR1LgFKWJ5//AF1rZax/rNIp0u8j4BrDSGL+8YpAP3OJMb5Hv/qgIjVX5vgWsuDZFW WyyfBbzeIAQnH+eUel1Awu+yOW3hjBM+6m/8yfID8XrkMh4iXy5TSuQBDrBVYHpCmUjj UQ8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlG3bF+8t6uBaWGaP8cEwY9NKj5jgmKjnVQaeSY4cTKUXaCtl8Jd 7HWen/LdH95KaPij47DkXcjFi2SnVoA+UU+0hgo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpchXFa8RVhLoVu+3blaBfGFEN27sf9Ndcaksg4vOK6zU7ooHhtNta/t0of/PFc9A09HLqw4kKlY9NaGfBWAK2E= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:91d6:: with SMTP id u22-v6mr4918469ljg.64.1531928427277; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:40:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a2e:709:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:40:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Mirsky Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:40:26 -0700 Message-ID: To: TEAS WG Cc: IETF IPPM WG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bab227057147e163" Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] STAMP YANG model X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:40:38 -0000 --000000000000bab227057147e163 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear TEAS WG, appreciate your consideration, comments, and questions of the STAMP (Simple Two-way Active Measurement Protocol) YANG model . In addition to controlling PM test session(s) model includes reportable performance metrics. Regards, Greg --000000000000bab227057147e163 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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appreciate your consideration, comments,= and questions of the STAMP (Simple Two-way Active Measurement Protocol) YANG= model. In addition to controlling PM test session(s) model includes re= portable performance metrics.

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X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 18:07:21 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_09B9FF6E-8057-47B2-8AFF-F1DF827D682C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, all, WGLC has completed on draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test; are there any = volunteers to shepherd the document? (For those who have not done so before, the primary role of the document = shepherd is to review discussion on the draft and fill out a document = shepherd write-up to summarize the WG's process for submission to the = IESG. This document is a relatively simple one and had a = not-very-complicated process, so this would be a good first document for = a new shepherd, if someone would like to try it out. :) Thanks, cheers, Brian (as IPPM WG co-chair) --Apple-Mail=_09B9FF6E-8057-47B2-8AFF-F1DF827D682C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEkCTSTp2bIB6fBRHIihK3vwvqRqMFAltPgdAACgkQihK3vwvq RqNTHQ//dgFF7RmkiVBF7tvQvisOd6N49hQo+eSbhgDKuNStYC1cu8KB0+Hyp6pa 4FfaCjr6QbyhX1+AkDkp56NyBycsNqdkFoHsNksmLqqw/xkwW4wYgOVv816vuIh5 /RH6vZ23kLo9e/JeW5/qE+MYgPQzvjtIolX+nsFIi8iZiCCnJqMxXblXqRyMQNKw z86TFtZH0ev9+1OAXQFC5ZhBK0kIcV9vl0dJNa7Z06ZPKxaFohQwTsEMKcZ0Li3p 2XbS/ZozxG+AXmnx/HfAOs+h2GtmAGn2EbRWEFwJrH/A+p39xWpBWCZQlNeuAxo6 2gSfq3tk70XG5gvJ3JUhXMjk+FZXFbJj+w03Wpk0ZvfNAruKeWRnUNKOghzRTEzw Sh/ThzpPZqymDCN1UUcMx3upjoKE/GuTI66c+u1O9jY6lWrUj4pyNZWiLSkU6apT CaWt9sB/uQdeWhQb1PXJW0qsEnZYxrmlkkLH/M2jciMqUmJJOlPTO6rARLMsAgXL YBaIaOAlplZ38yTFaFzp8ymIqX7e2l20EPwG/tvU3y8t7ZbsbXT2VwHmfJH/uQoJ Vqde1EKnoqkuQWPiEkZx6MVEbFDK5mvu1CZm3sNXmfwpbjStKcU1X+9oHu8mPCOK KYagqmcxFhGSjwxqvJCKmJ1YBYpdZZ0HgIvWYOKjb5Y72SpHegw= =X1YN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_09B9FF6E-8057-47B2-8AFF-F1DF827D682C-- From nobody Thu Jul 19 04:07:17 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9176B130F1C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 04:07:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ewHG6SE1ozH5 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 04:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D0AE130DDD for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 04:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LHREML713-CAH.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 9492873E7A1B2 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 12:07:07 +0100 (IST) Received: from NKGEML412-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.73) by LHREML713-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.399.0; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 12:07:09 +0100 Received: from NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com ([fe80::a54a:89d2:c471:ff]) by nkgeml412-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.73]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 19:07:04 +0800 From: Tianran Zhou To: "Brian Trammell (IETF)" CC: IETF IPPM WG Thread-Topic: [ippm] volunteers to shepherd port-twamp-test? 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Hi Brian and All,

I briefly read this draft. And I would like to shepherd this document, if y= ou think it's OK. :-)


Cheers,

Tianran




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=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA Brian Trammell (IETF)
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA IETF IPPM WG<ippm@ietf.org>
=D6=F7=CC=E2=A3=BA [ippm] volunteers to shepherd port-twamp-tes= t?
=CA=B1=BC=E4=A3=BA 2018-07-18 14:07:41

Greetings, all,

WGLC has completed on draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test; are there any volunt= eers to shepherd the document?

(For those who have not done so before, the primary role of the document sh= epherd is to review discussion on the draft and fill out a document shepher= d write-up to summarize the WG's process for submission to the IESG.  = This document is a relatively simple one and had a not-very-complicated process, so this would be a good first = document for a new shepherd, if someone would like to try it out. :)

Thanks, cheers,

Brian (as IPPM WG co-chair)
 --_000_BBA82579FD347748BEADC4C445EA0F21B562736BNKGEML515MBXchi_-- From nobody Thu Jul 19 07:01:53 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C0D130E92 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:01:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JWV5CMqD8Qcw for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gozo.iway.ch (gozo.iway.ch [212.25.24.36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45E3B130E02 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gozo.iway.ch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C01340D9C for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:01:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ACF/6030.7858); Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:01:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from switchplus-mail.ch (switchplus-mail.ch [212.25.8.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gozo.iway.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:01:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dhcp-853f.meeting.ietf.org (account ietf@trammell.ch [31.133.133.63] verified) by switchplus-mail.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.18) with ESMTPSA id 61843624 for ippm@ietf.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:01:40 +0200 From: "Brian Trammell (IETF)" Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E9609F61-40BE-4A51-A7F1-A09A6554F556"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.4 \(3445.8.2\)) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 10:01:38 -0400 To: IETF IPPM WG X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.8.2) Archived-At: Subject: [ippm] Call for Document Shepherds X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 14:01:52 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E9609F61-40BE-4A51-A7F1-A09A6554F556 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, all, First, thanks to Tianran Zhou for volunteering to shepherd = draft-ietf-ippm-port-twamp-test! As noted a few meeting cycles ago, we should be assigning shepherds when = we adopt working group documents. We've done a less than perfect job of = this recently. So, we're looking for volunteers to shepherd the = following documents: - draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data - draft-ietf-ippm-route - draft-ietf-ippm-stamp and draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-yang (should be = shepherded together) Please consider volunteering by sending a message to = ippm-chairs@ietf.org. 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