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I agree with the motivation, but I also have some comments on the specific solution proposed. I suggest that further discussion be on the IPsec list. * The draft does not mention, and should contain a comparison with the recent I-D, http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-esp-null-protocol-00.txt. * This whole mechanism is mostly useful in the internal "trusted" network, where NAT traversal (and UDP encapsulation) is usually *not* deployed. * Since both IKE and IPsec run over the same port, you need to magically know in advance that IKE negotiation will result in ESP-null being selected, at the time when you select the port for the IKE negotiation. * Also, the new draft extends the UDP encapsulation RFC, which I find strange. Regards, Yaron Begin forwarded message: > *From: *Internet-Drafts@ietf.org > *Date: *January 3, 2008 7:15:01 PM GMT+02:00 > *To: *i-d-announce@ietf.org > *Subject: **I-D ACTION:draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt * > *Reply-To: *internet-drafts@ietf.org > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > > Title : Traffic visibility using IPsec ESP NULL encryption > Author(s) : K. Grewal, et al. > Filename : draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt > Pages : 8 > Date : 2008-1-3 > > This document describes leveraging UDP encapsulation for IPsec, using > ESP NULL encryption in order for intermediary devices to inspect the > IPsec packets. 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Hi,

A new draft was published on distinguishing ESP-null traffic from regular encrypted ESP traffic. I agree with the motivation, but I also have some comments on the specific solution proposed. I suggest that further discussion be on the IPsec list.

The draft does not mention, and should contain a comparison with the recent I-D, http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-esp-null-protocol-00.txt.
This whole mechanism is mostly useful in the internal "trusted" network, where NAT traversal (and UDP encapsulation) is usually *not* deployed.
Since both IKE and IPsec run over the same port, you need to magically know in advance that IKE negotiation will result in ESP-null being selected, at the time when you select the port for the IKE negotiation.
Also, the new draft extends the UDP encapsulation RFC, which I find strange.

Regards,
Yaron

Begin forwarded message:

From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org

Date: January 3, 2008 7:15:01 PM GMT+02:00

To: i-d-announce@ietf.org

Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.

Title : Traffic visibility using IPsec ESP NULL encryption
Author(s) : K. Grewal, et al.
Filename : draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt
Pages : 8
Date : 2008-1-3

  This document describes leveraging UDP encapsulation for IPsec, using
  ESP NULL encryption in order for intermediary devices to inspect the
  IPsec packets. Currently in the IPsec standard, there is no way to
  differentiate between ESP encryption and ESP NULL encryption by
  simply examining a packet.

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Thanking You Anshul Makkar -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/IPSEC-Tunnel-Supernet-Subnet-fallover-tp14668175p14668175.html Sent from the IETF - Ipsec mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ IPsec mailing list IPsec@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec From ipsec-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jan 07 13:26:44 2008 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBwg8-0003HZ-Lw; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:26:28 -0500 Received: from ipsec by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JBwg7-0003HC-3f for ipsec-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:26:27 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBwg6-0003H4-P2 for ipsec@ietf.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:26:26 -0500 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBwg6-0001W6-Bu for ipsec@ietf.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:26:26 -0500 Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JBwg6-000174-00 for ipsec@ietf.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:26:26 -0800 Message-ID: <14672416.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:26:25 -0800 (PST) From: anshul makkar To: ipsec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ipsec] IPSEC Tunnel Supernet/Subnet fallover In-Reply-To: <14668175.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: anshulmakkar@gmail.com References: <14668175.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 082a9cbf4d599f360ac7f815372a6a15 X-BeenThere: ipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of IPsec protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipsec-bounces@ietf.org Hi, Further add to the scenerio, due to continuous negotiaton of IPSEC SA of 2nd tunnel, for every ICMP packet destined for 1st, 2nd tunnel also gets torn down in due course of time. 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This is primarily used to segregate satellite offices and also for 'hiding' sensitive domains / topology from the remainder of the internal network, so taking a UDP based approach is more applicable for these environments.=20 * Since both IKE and IPsec run over the same port, you need to magically know in advance that IKE negotiation will result in ESP-null being selected, at the time when you select the port for the IKE negotiation. Valid point - I need to update the draft with a new transform that is included for IKE, which will synchronize the two peers in leveraging this encapsulation. Having just today looked at the Hoffman draft, this can be handled in a similar way with little or no disruption to the IKE protocol. If the peer understands the new transform, it will accept, otherwise this will default to legacy IKE / IPsec.=20 * Also, the new draft extends the UDP encapsulation RFC, which I find strange. The rationale here was to use what is already there in the UDP encapsulation draft and then simply extend the mechanism to include additional semantic information about the payload as a 32-bit extension following the UDP header. Having spent some time looking at the IPsec mailing list archives this morning, it looks like Russ Housley proposed a similar mechanism for the Hoffman draft. This extension is valuable for two reasons: 1. To provide algorithm agility in the proposal (so that new methods employing larger IVs in the future can be easily comprehended, without a need to modify this proposal in the future). 2. Allowing the intermediate device an easy way to parse the packet (without employing expensive lookup tables), where the data offset for upper layer protocols is directly contained within the packet.=20 I look forward to additional comments... =20 Thanks,=20 - Ken =20 ________________________________ From: Yaron Sheffer [mailto:yaronf@checkpoint.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 4:14 AM To: Grewal, Ken; Durham, David; Long, Men; ipsec@ietf.org Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt =20 Hi, =20 A new draft was published on distinguishing ESP-null traffic from regular encrypted ESP traffic. I agree with the motivation, but I also have some comments on the specific solution proposed. I suggest that further discussion be on the IPsec list. * The draft does not mention, and should contain a comparison with the recent I-D, http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-esp-null-protocol-00.t xt. * This whole mechanism is mostly useful in the internal "trusted" network, where NAT traversal (and UDP encapsulation) is usually *not* deployed. * Since both IKE and IPsec run over the same port, you need to magically know in advance that IKE negotiation will result in ESP-null being selected, at the time when you select the port for the IKE negotiation. * Also, the new draft extends the UDP encapsulation RFC, which I find strange. Regards, Yaron =20 Begin forwarded message: From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: January 3, 2008 7:15:01 PM GMT+02:00 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt=20 Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org =20 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20 directories. Title : Traffic visibility using IPsec ESP NULL encryption =20 Author(s) : K. Grewal, et al. Filename : draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2008-1-3 =20 This document describes leveraging UDP encapsulation for IPsec, using=20 ESP NULL encryption in order for intermediary devices to inspect the=20 IPsec packets. Currently in the IPsec standard, there is no way to=20 differentiate between ESP encryption and ESP NULL encryption by=20 simply examining a packet. =20 A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibilit y-00.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to=20 i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of=20 the message.=20 You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce=20 to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the=20 username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After=20 logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then=20 "get draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html=20 or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt". =20 NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. 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Hi Yaron, =

Many thanks for the prompt = response. I did not realize that the IPsec mailing list was still active (looks like the = WG is concluded according to the IETF website!), hence was not aware of the = Hoffman draft and associated discussions.

Some comments below and I will = separately post comments on some threads for the Hoffman = draft.

The draft does not mention, and should = contain a comparison with the recent I-D, http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-esp-null-pro= tocol-00.txt.

Agreed – I will include this as a = reference in the next revision and the only reason for not doing so earlier is that I = was not aware of this draft!

This whole mechanism is mostly useful in = the internal "trusted" network, where NAT traversal (and UDP encapsulation) is usually *not* = deployed.

I disagree. In my experience, large = corporations still employ NAT heavily, even within the internal trusted network and will = continue to do so in the foreseeable future. This is primarily used to segregate = satellite offices and also for ‘hiding’ sensitive domains / topology = from the remainder of the internal network, so taking a UDP based approach is = more applicable for these environments.

Since both IKE and IPsec run over the = same port, you need to magically know in advance that IKE negotiation will = result in ESP-null being selected, at the time when you select the port for = the IKE negotiation.

Valid point - I need to update the draft with = a new transform that is included for IKE, which will synchronize the two peers = in leveraging this encapsulation. Having just today looked at the Hoffman = draft, this can be handled in a similar way with little or no disruption to the = IKE protocol. If the peer understands the new transform, it will accept, = otherwise this will default to legacy IKE / IPsec.

Also, the new draft extends the UDP = encapsulation RFC, which I find strange.

The rationale here was to use what is already = there in the UDP encapsulation draft and then simply extend the mechanism to = include additional semantic information about the payload as a 32-bit extension following the UDP header. Having spent some time looking at the IPsec = mailing list archives this morning, it looks like Russ Housley proposed a = similar mechanism for the Hoffman draft. This extension is valuable for two = reasons: 1. To provide algorithm agility in the proposal (so that new methods = employing larger IVs in the future can be easily comprehended, without a need to = modify this proposal in the future). 2. Allowing the intermediate device an = easy way to parse the packet (without employing expensive lookup tables), where = the data offset for upper layer protocols is directly contained within the = packet.

I look forward to additional = comments…

Thanks,

- Ken

From: Yaron Sheffer [mailto:yaronf@checkpoint.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, = 2008 4:14 AM
To: Grewal, Ken; Durham, = David; Long, Men; ipsec@ietf.org
Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt

Hi,

A new draft = was published on distinguishing ESP-null traffic from regular encrypted ESP traffic. I = agree with the motivation, but I also have some comments on the specific = solution proposed. I suggest that further discussion be on the IPsec = list.

The draft does not mention, and should = contain a comparison with the recent I-D, http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-esp-null-pro= tocol-00.txt.
This whole mechanism is mostly useful in = the internal "trusted" network, where NAT traversal (and UDP encapsulation) is usually *not* = deployed.
Since both IKE and IPsec run over the = same port, you need to magically know in advance that IKE negotiation will = result in ESP-null being selected, at the time when you select the port for = the IKE negotiation.
Also, the new draft extends the UDP = encapsulation RFC, which I find strange.

Regards,
Yaron

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  This document describes leveraging UDP encapsulation for = IPsec, using
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http://thedworld.net.cn/ ------=_NextPart_000_C6EF_01C851EA.9E7D5470-- From ipsec-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jan 08 11:13:26 2008 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JCH41-00079V-FY; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 11:12:29 -0500 Received: from ipsec by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JCH40-00079P-B6 for ipsec-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 11:12:28 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JCH3z-00079H-Un for ipsec@ietf.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 11:12:28 -0500 Received: from michael.checkpoint.com ([194.29.32.68]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JCH3z-00072K-9p for ipsec@ietf.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 11:12:27 -0500 Received: from [91.90.139.156] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by michael.checkpoint.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m08GCYP8022261; Tue, 8 Jan 2008 18:12:34 +0200 (IST) Message-ID: <4783A0F2.7030705@checkpoint.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:12:34 +0200 From: Yaron Sheffer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Grewal, Ken" References: <45ECF79B-A071-4FC4-B402-DD58E5323EC7@checkpoint.com> <477F9ADE.1060206@checkpoint.com> <4780C60B.2040206@checkpoint.com> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: bc102ac530ba955ef81f1f75b8bebe44 Cc: ipsec@ietf.org, "Durham, David" , "Long, Men" Subject: [IPsec] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt X-BeenThere: ipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of IPsec protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0560299567==" Errors-To: ipsec-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0560299567== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010104030900090307020101" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010104030900090307020101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ken, Regarding the 3rd point (use of a special port): if your solution uses a special port, say 5500, for ESP-null traffic, then you'd presumably use port 5500 for both IKE and IPsec - this is how RFC 3948 works. So the very fact that someone is listening on port 5500 implies that they support this extension, and you don't need to negotiate it in IKE. OTOH, if no-one is listening on this port, the IKE messages will be silently ignored and you will have a time delay before you detect that the extension is not supported by your IPsec gateway. This is an issue. So if we go for a port-based solution, I suggest we use the standard port (4500), plus IKE-level negotiation of the NAT-T extension. Thanks, Yaron Grewal, Ken wrote: > Hi Yaron, > > Many thanks for the prompt response. I did not realize that the IPsec > mailing list was still active (looks like the WG is concluded > according to the IETF website!), hence was not aware of the Hoffman > draft and associated discussions. > > > > Some comments below and I will separately post comments on some > threads for the Hoffman draft. > > * The draft does not mention, and should contain a comparison with > the recent I-D, > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-esp-null-protocol-00.txt. > > Agreed -- I will include this as a reference in the next revision and > the only reason for not doing so earlier is that I was not aware of > this draft! > > * This whole mechanism is mostly useful in the internal "trusted" > network, where NAT traversal (and UDP encapsulation) is usually > *not* deployed. > > I disagree. In my experience, large corporations still employ NAT > heavily, even within the internal trusted network and will continue to > do so in the foreseeable future. This is primarily used to segregate > satellite offices and also for 'hiding' sensitive domains / topology > from the remainder of the internal network, so taking a UDP based > approach is more applicable for these environments. > > * Since both IKE and IPsec run over the same port, you need to > magically know in advance that IKE negotiation will result in > ESP-null being selected, at the time when you select the port > for the IKE negotiation. > > Valid point - I need to update the draft with a new transform that is > included for IKE, which will synchronize the two peers in leveraging > this encapsulation. Having just today looked at the Hoffman draft, > this can be handled in a similar way with little or no disruption to > the IKE protocol. If the peer understands the new transform, it will > accept, otherwise this will default to legacy IKE / IPsec. > > * Also, the new draft extends the UDP encapsulation RFC, which I > find strange. > > The rationale here was to use what is already there in the UDP > encapsulation draft and then simply extend the mechanism to include > additional semantic information about the payload as a 32-bit > extension following the UDP header. Having spent some time looking at > the IPsec mailing list archives this morning, it looks like Russ > Housley proposed a similar mechanism for the Hoffman draft. This > extension is valuable for two reasons: 1. To provide algorithm agility > in the proposal (so that new methods employing larger IVs in the > future can be easily comprehended, without a need to modify this > proposal in the future). 2. Allowing the intermediate device an easy > way to parse the packet (without employing expensive lookup tables), > where the data offset for upper layer protocols is directly contained > within the packet. > > I look forward to additional comments... > > > > Thanks, > > - Ken > > --------------010104030900090307020101 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Ken,

Regarding the 3rd point (use of a special port): if your solution uses a special port, say 5500, for ESP-null traffic, then you'd presumably use port 5500 for both IKE and IPsec - this is how RFC 3948 works. So the very fact that someone is listening on port 5500 implies that they support this extension, and you don't need to negotiate it in IKE.

OTOH, if no-one is listening on this port, the IKE messages will be silently ignored and you will have a time delay before you detect that the extension is not supported by your IPsec gateway. This is an issue.

So if we go for a port-based solution, I suggest we use the standard port (4500), plus IKE-level negotiation of the NAT-T extension.

Thanks,

Yaron

Grewal, Ken wrote:

Hi Yaron,

Many thanks for the prompt response. I did not realize that the IPsec mailing list was still active (looks like the WG is concluded according to the IETF website!), hence was not aware of the Hoffman draft and associated discussions.

Some comments below and I will separately post comments on some threads for the Hoffman draft.

The draft does not mention, and should contain a comparison with the recent I-D, http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-esp-null-protocol-00.txt.

Agreed – I will include this as a reference in the next revision and the only reason for not doing so earlier is that I was not aware of this draft!

This whole mechanism is mostly useful in the internal "trusted" network, where NAT traversal (and UDP encapsulation) is usually *not* deployed.

I disagree. In my experience, large corporations still employ NAT heavily, even within the internal trusted network and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future. This is primarily used to segregate satellite offices and also for ‘hiding’ sensitive domains / topology from the remainder of the internal network, so taking a UDP based approach is more applicable for these environments.

Since both IKE and IPsec run over the same port, you need to magically know in advance that IKE negotiation will result in ESP-null being selected, at the time when you select the port for the IKE negotiation.

Valid point - I need to update the draft with a new transform that is included for IKE, which will synchronize the two peers in leveraging this encapsulation. Having just today looked at the Hoffman draft, this can be handled in a similar way with little or no disruption to the IKE protocol. If the peer understands the new transform, it will accept, otherwise this will default to legacy IKE / IPsec.

Also, the new draft extends the UDP encapsulation RFC, which I find strange.

The rationale here was to use what is already there in the UDP encapsulation draft and then simply extend the mechanism to include additional semantic information about the payload as a 32-bit extension following the UDP header. Having spent some time looking at the IPsec mailing list archives this morning, it looks like Russ Housley proposed a similar mechanism for the Hoffman draft. This extension is valuable for two reasons: 1. To provide algorithm agility in the proposal (so that new methods employing larger IVs in the future can be easily comprehended, without a need to modify this proposal in the future). 2. Allowing the intermediate device an easy way to parse the packet (without employing expensive lookup tables), where the data offset for upper layer protocols is directly contained within the packet.

I look forward to additional comments…

Thanks,

- Ken

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Within the IKE handshake, a new transform can be exchanged that indicates usage of a new port (say 5500) for the data path. We cannot use 4500 for the data path (IPsec) as we need to differentiate between the proposed encapsulation (which will allow intermediate devices to easily parse the packet) and legacy IPsec packets using 4500. =20 Is this in line with your recommendations? =20 Thanks,=20 - Ken =20 ________________________________ From: Yaron Sheffer [mailto:yaronf@checkpoint.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:13 AM To: Grewal, Ken Cc: ipsec@ietf.org; Durham, David; Long, Men Subject: [IPsec] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt =20 Hi Ken, =20 Regarding the 3rd point (use of a special port): if your solution uses a special port, say 5500, for ESP-null traffic, then you'd presumably use port 5500 for both IKE and IPsec - this is how RFC 3948 works. So the very fact that someone is listening on port 5500 implies that they support this extension, and you don't need to negotiate it in IKE. =20 OTOH, if no-one is listening on this port, the IKE messages will be silently ignored and you will have a time delay before you detect that the extension is not supported by your IPsec gateway. This is an issue. =20 So if we go for a port-based solution, I suggest we use the standard port (4500), plus IKE-level negotiation of the NAT-T extension. =20 Thanks, Yaron =20 Grewal, Ken wrote: Hi Yaron,=20 Many thanks for the prompt response. I did not realize that the IPsec mailing list was still active (looks like the WG is concluded according to the IETF website!), hence was not aware of the Hoffman draft and associated discussions. =20 Some comments below and I will separately post comments on some threads for the Hoffman draft. * The draft does not mention, and should contain a comparison with the recent I-D, http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-esp-null-protocol-00.t xt. Agreed - I will include this as a reference in the next revision and the only reason for not doing so earlier is that I was not aware of this draft! * This whole mechanism is mostly useful in the internal "trusted" network, where NAT traversal (and UDP encapsulation) is usually *not* deployed. I disagree. In my experience, large corporations still employ NAT heavily, even within the internal trusted network and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future. This is primarily used to segregate satellite offices and also for 'hiding' sensitive domains / topology from the remainder of the internal network, so taking a UDP based approach is more applicable for these environments.=20 * Since both IKE and IPsec run over the same port, you need to magically know in advance that IKE negotiation will result in ESP-null being selected, at the time when you select the port for the IKE negotiation. Valid point - I need to update the draft with a new transform that is included for IKE, which will synchronize the two peers in leveraging this encapsulation. Having just today looked at the Hoffman draft, this can be handled in a similar way with little or no disruption to the IKE protocol. If the peer understands the new transform, it will accept, otherwise this will default to legacy IKE / IPsec.=20 * Also, the new draft extends the UDP encapsulation RFC, which I find strange. The rationale here was to use what is already there in the UDP encapsulation draft and then simply extend the mechanism to include additional semantic information about the payload as a 32-bit extension following the UDP header. Having spent some time looking at the IPsec mailing list archives this morning, it looks like Russ Housley proposed a similar mechanism for the Hoffman draft. This extension is valuable for two reasons: 1. To provide algorithm agility in the proposal (so that new methods employing larger IVs in the future can be easily comprehended, without a need to modify this proposal in the future). 2. Allowing the intermediate device an easy way to parse the packet (without employing expensive lookup tables), where the data offset for upper layer protocols is directly contained within the packet.=20 I look forward to additional comments... =20 Thanks,=20 - Ken =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8521B.97A09643 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yaron, =

The intent is to use the same ports = for the IKE negotiation (4500) as per RFC 3948. Within the IKE handshake, a = new transform can be exchanged that indicates usage of a new port (say 5500) = for the data path. We cannot use 4500 for the data path (IPsec) as we need = to differentiate between the proposed encapsulation (which will allow = intermediate devices to easily parse the packet) and legacy IPsec packets using 4500. =

Is this in line with your = recommendations?

Thanks,

- Ken

From: Yaron Sheffer [mailto:yaronf@checkpoint.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January = 08, 2008 8:13 AM
To: Grewal, Ken
Cc: ipsec@ietf.org; = Durham, David; Long, Men
Subject: [IPsec] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt

Hi = Ken,

Regarding the = 3rd point (use of a special port): if your solution uses a special port, say 5500, = for ESP-null traffic, then you'd presumably use port 5500 for both IKE and = IPsec - this is how RFC 3948 works. So the very fact that someone is listening = on port 5500 implies that they support this extension, and you don't need to = negotiate it in IKE.

OTOH, if = no-one is listening on this port, the IKE messages will be silently ignored and = you will have a time delay before you detect that the extension is not supported = by your IPsec gateway. This is an issue.

So if we go = for a port-based solution, I suggest we use the standard port (4500), plus = IKE-level negotiation of the NAT-T extension.

Thanks,

= Yaron

Grewal, Ken = wrote:

Hi Yaron, =

Many thanks for the prompt = response. I did not realize that the IPsec mailing list was still active (looks like the = WG is concluded according to the IETF website!), hence was not aware of the = Hoffman draft and associated = discussions.

Some comments below and I will = separately post comments on some threads for the Hoffman = draft.

The draft = does not mention, and should contain a comparison with the recent I-D, http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-= esp-null-protocol-00.txt.

Agreed – = I will include this as a reference in the next revision and the only reason for = not doing so earlier is that I was not aware of this = draft!

This = whole mechanism is mostly useful in the internal "trusted" network, where = NAT traversal (and UDP encapsulation) is usually *not* = deployed.

I disagree. In = my experience, large corporations still employ NAT heavily, even within the internal trusted network and will continue to do so in the foreseeable = future. This is primarily used to segregate satellite offices and also for ‘hiding’ sensitive domains / topology from the remainder of = the internal network, so taking a UDP based approach is more applicable for = these environments.

Since = both IKE and IPsec run over the same port, you need to magically know in advance = that IKE negotiation will result in ESP-null being selected, at the time = when you select the port for the IKE = negotiation.

Valid point - = I need to update the draft with a new transform that is included for IKE, which = will synchronize the two peers in leveraging this encapsulation. Having just today looked = at the Hoffman draft, this can be handled in a similar way with little or no disruption to the IKE protocol. If the peer understands the new = transform, it will accept, otherwise this will default to legacy IKE / IPsec. =

Also, the = new draft extends the UDP encapsulation RFC, which I find = strange.

The rationale = here was to use what is already there in the UDP encapsulation draft and then simply = extend the mechanism to include additional semantic information about the = payload as a 32-bit extension following the UDP header. Having spent some time = looking at the IPsec mailing list archives this morning, it looks like Russ Housley proposed a similar mechanism for the Hoffman draft. This extension is = valuable for two reasons: 1. To provide algorithm agility in the proposal (so = that new methods employing larger IVs in the future can be easily comprehended, = without a need to modify this proposal in the future). 2. Allowing the = intermediate device an easy way to parse the packet (without employing expensive = lookup tables), where the data offset for upper layer protocols is directly = contained within the packet.

I look forward to additional = comments…

Thanks, =

- = Ken

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As RFC 3948 notes, there's value in keeping a single port/connection per client. You'd also have a race condition if the first ESP-protected packet is initiated on the network side (this is rare of course). I see your point on why using port 4500 is problematic. One way out, staying on port 4500, would be to add a large (64-bit?) magic value between your new extension field and the ESP header. Thanks, Yaron Grewal, Ken wrote: > Yaron, > > The intent is to use the same ports for the IKE negotiation (4500) as > per RFC 3948. Within the IKE handshake, a new transform can be > exchanged that indicates usage of a new port (say 5500) for the data > path. We cannot use 4500 for the data path (IPsec) as we need to > differentiate between the proposed encapsulation (which will allow > intermediate devices to easily parse the packet) and legacy IPsec > packets using 4500. > > > > Is this in line with your recommendations? > > > > Thanks, > > - Ken > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Yaron Sheffer [mailto:yaronf@checkpoint.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:13 AM > *To:* Grewal, Ken > *Cc:* ipsec@ietf.org; Durham, David; Long, Men > *Subject:* [IPsec] Re: I-D > ACTION:draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt > > > > Hi Ken, > > > > Regarding the 3rd point (use of a special port): if your solution uses > a special port, say 5500, for ESP-null traffic, then you'd presumably > use port 5500 for both IKE and IPsec - this is how RFC 3948 works. So > the very fact that someone is listening on port 5500 implies that they > support this extension, and you don't need to negotiate it in IKE. > > > > OTOH, if no-one is listening on this port, the IKE messages will be > silently ignored and you will have a time delay before you detect that > the extension is not supported by your IPsec gateway. This is an issue. > > > > So if we go for a port-based solution, I suggest we use the standard > port (4500), plus IKE-level negotiation of the NAT-T extension. > > > > Thanks, > > Yaron > > > > Grewal, Ken wrote: > >> Hi Yaron, >> >> Many thanks for the prompt response. I did not realize that the IPsec >> mailing list was still active (looks like the WG is concluded >> according to the IETF website!), hence was not aware of the Hoffman >> draft and associated discussions. >> >> >> >> Some comments below and I will separately post comments on some >> threads for the Hoffman draft. >> >> * The draft does not mention, and should contain a comparison >> with the recent I-D, >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-esp-null-protocol-00.txt. >> >> Agreed -- I will include this as a reference in the next revision and >> the only reason for not doing so earlier is that I was not aware of >> this draft! >> >> * This whole mechanism is mostly useful in the internal "trusted" >> network, where NAT traversal (and UDP encapsulation) is usually >> *not* deployed. >> >> I disagree. In my experience, large corporations still employ NAT >> heavily, even within the internal trusted network and will continue >> to do so in the foreseeable future. This is primarily used to >> segregate satellite offices and also for 'hiding' sensitive domains / >> topology from the remainder of the internal network, so taking a UDP >> based approach is more applicable for these environments. >> >> * Since both IKE and IPsec run over the same port, you need to >> magically know in advance that IKE negotiation will result in >> ESP-null being selected, at the time when you select the port >> for the IKE negotiation. >> >> Valid point - I need to update the draft with a new transform that is >> included for IKE, which will synchronize the two peers in leveraging >> this encapsulation. Having just today looked at the Hoffman draft, >> this can be handled in a similar way with little or no disruption to >> the IKE protocol. If the peer understands the new transform, it will >> accept, otherwise this will default to legacy IKE / IPsec. >> >> * Also, the new draft extends the UDP encapsulation RFC, which I >> find strange. >> >> The rationale here was to use what is already there in the UDP >> encapsulation draft and then simply extend the mechanism to include >> additional semantic information about the payload as a 32-bit >> extension following the UDP header. Having spent some time looking at >> the IPsec mailing list archives this morning, it looks like Russ >> Housley proposed a similar mechanism for the Hoffman draft. This >> extension is valuable for two reasons: 1. To provide algorithm >> agility in the proposal (so that new methods employing larger IVs in >> the future can be easily comprehended, without a need to modify this >> proposal in the future). 2. Allowing the intermediate device an easy >> way to parse the packet (without employing expensive lookup tables), >> where the data offset for upper layer protocols is directly contained >> within the packet. >> >> I look forward to additional comments... >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> - Ken >> >> >> > > > Scanned by Check Point Total Security Gateway. > --------------080900000307040701090403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Ken,

No it's not. As RFC 3948 notes, there's value in keeping a single port/connection per client. You'd also have a race condition if the first ESP-protected packet is initiated on the network side (this is rare of course).

I see your point on why using port 4500 is problematic. One way out, staying on port 4500, would be to add a large (64-bit?) magic value between your new extension field and the ESP header.

Thanks,

Yaron

Grewal, Ken wrote:

Yaron,

The intent is to use the same ports for the IKE negotiation (4500) as per RFC 3948. Within the IKE handshake, a new transform can be exchanged that indicates usage of a new port (say 5500) for the data path. We cannot use 4500 for the data path (IPsec) as we need to differentiate between the proposed encapsulation (which will allow intermediate devices to easily parse the packet) and legacy IPsec packets using 4500.

Is this in line with your recommendations?

Thanks,

- Ken

From: Yaron Sheffer [mailto:yaronf@checkpoint.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:13 AM
To: Grewal, Ken
Cc: ipsec@ietf.org; Durham, David; Long, Men
Subject: [IPsec] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-grewal-ipsec-traffic-visibility-00.txt

Hi Ken,

Regarding the 3rd point (use of a special port): if your solution uses a special port, say 5500, for ESP-null traffic, then you'd presumably use port 5500 for both IKE and IPsec - this is how RFC 3948 works. So the very fact that someone is listening on port 5500 implies that they support this extension, and you don't need to negotiate it in IKE.

OTOH, if no-one is listening on this port, the IKE messages will be silently ignored and you will have a time delay before you detect that the extension is not supported by your IPsec gateway. This is an issue.

So if we go for a port-based solution, I suggest we use the standard port (4500), plus IKE-level negotiation of the NAT-T extension.

Thanks,

Yaron

Grewal, Ken wrote:

Hi Yaron,

Many thanks for the prompt response. I did not realize that the IPsec mailing list was still active (looks like the WG is concluded according to the IETF website!), hence was not aware of the Hoffman draft and associated discussions.

Some comments below and I will separately post comments on some threads for the Hoffman draft.

The draft does not mention, and should contain a comparison with the recent I-D, http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-esp-null-protocol-00.txt.

Agreed – I will include this as a reference in the next revision and the only reason for not doing so earlier is that I was not aware of this draft!

This whole mechanism is mostly useful in the internal "trusted" network, where NAT traversal (and UDP encapsulation) is usually *not* deployed.

I disagree. In my experience, large corporations still employ NAT heavily, even within the internal trusted network and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future. This is primarily used to segregate satellite offices and also for ‘hiding’ sensitive domains / topology from the remainder of the internal network, so taking a UDP based approach is more applicable for these environments.

Since both IKE and IPsec run over the same port, you need to magically know in advance that IKE negotiation will result in ESP-null being selected, at the time when you select the port for the IKE negotiation.

Valid point - I need to update the draft with a new transform that is included for IKE, which will synchronize the two peers in leveraging this encapsulation. Having just today looked at the Hoffman draft, this can be handled in a similar way with little or no disruption to the IKE protocol. If the peer understands the new transform, it will accept, otherwise this will default to legacy IKE / IPsec.

Also, the new draft extends the UDP encapsulation RFC, which I find strange.

The rationale here was to use what is already there in the UDP encapsulation draft and then simply extend the mechanism to include additional semantic information about the payload as a 32-bit extension following the UDP header. Having spent some time looking at the IPsec mailing list archives this morning, it looks like Russ Housley proposed a similar mechanism for the Hoffman draft. This extension is valuable for two reasons: 1. To provide algorithm agility in the proposal (so that new methods employing larger IVs in the future can be easily comprehended, without a need to modify this proposal in the future). 2. Allowing the intermediate device an easy way to parse the packet (without employing expensive lookup tables), where the data offset for upper layer protocols is directly contained within the packet.

I look forward to additional comments…

Thanks,

- Ken

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This list is meant for discussion of IPsec-related standards, not any particular implementation or problems you might be having with using it. You should try one of the linux or bsd ipsec mailing lists. Scott anshul makkar wrote: > Hi, > Please reply . I am still stuck with this problem. > > If any of you have any hint or reference material/link, then do share it. > > Thanks > Anshul Makkar > > anshul makkar wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Please if any has any idea or any reference material regarding the >> concernet problem, then do share it. >> >> Thanks >> Anshul Makkar >> >> anshul makkar wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Further add to the scenerio, due to continuous negotiaton of IPSEC SA of >>> 2nd tunnel, for every ICMP packet destined for 1st, 2nd tunnel also gets >>> torn down in due course of time. >>> >>> I am unable to figure out, whether the behavior that I am observing is >>> desired or there is some thing wrong. >>> >>> One more point, if instead of subnet /supernet , I establish two tunnels >>> with different subnets, then they both work fine without disturbing each >>> other (even in case when one of the tunnel is disabled). >>> Please reply. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Anshul Makkar >>> >>> >>> >>> anshul makkar wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I established two IPSEC tunnels terminating at one hub. >>>> Configuration : >>>> 1st tunnel : right subnet as 192.168.4.0/24 >>>> 2nd tunnel: right subnet as 192.168.0.0/16 >>>> >>>> Both the tunnels have same gateway as 172.16.28.108 >>>> >>>> I am using freeswan code. >>>> >>>> Now what I am observing is that, if I disable the 192.168.4.0/24 tunnel, >>>> and send ping request to 192.168.4.1, the ICMP IPSEC SA is negotiated >>>> for 2nd tunnel (supernet one which is already correctly established.). >>>> Why this is happening. >>>> >>>> Further, on continuous pinging (to machine on network 192.168.4.0/24), a >>>> new IPSEC SA (for tunnel 192.168.0.0/26) is negotiated on every request. >>>> >>>> On debugging I found that when I disable a perticular tunnel, the path >>>> corresponding to it is marked as trapped. 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