From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Nov 6 09:27:47 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA10256 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:27:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AHl6e-0001MI-5s for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:27:28 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hA6ERSks005218 for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:27:28 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AHl6e-0001M5-2W for iptel-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:27:28 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA10246 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AHl6c-0001lA-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:27:26 -0500 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AHl6b-0001l3-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:27:25 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AHl6D-0001JB-6a; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:27:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AHl5m-0001GX-US for iptel@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:26:34 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA10141; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:26:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200311061426.JAA10141@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: iptel@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: [Iptel] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-iptel-trip-mib-09.txt Sender: iptel-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Telephony List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:26:21 -0500 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Telephony Working Group of the IETF. Title : Management Information Base for Telephony Routing over IP (TRIP) Author(s) : D. Zinman, D. Walker, J. Jiang Filename : draft-ietf-iptel-trip-mib-09.txt Pages : 45 Date : 2003-11-5 This memo defines a portion of the MIB (Management Information Base) module for use with network management protocols in the Internet community. In particular, it describes a set of managed objects that are used to manage for TRIP (Telephony Routing over IP) devices A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trip-mib-09.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-iptel-trip-mib-09.txt". 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Are WiMAX and WiFi complementary (local vs. = metropolitan=20 area networking)?
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Can WiMAX be considered as a migration path to 4G?
How is = addressed the=20 interoperability challenge?

These questions, among others, will = be=20 addressed during the WiMAX = Summit, to=20 be held in Paris on May 25 to 28, 2004. =

A=20 call for papers has been launched on-line at:
http://www.uppe= rside.fr/wimax04/wimax04intro.htm
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Sun, 09 Nov 2003 01:55:20 -0500 Received: from cisco.com (171.71.177.237) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2003 23:00:36 -0800 Received: from mira-sjc5-e.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-e.cisco.com [171.71.163.15]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hA96smAt016366; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (sjc-vpn2-393.cisco.com [10.21.113.137]) by mira-sjc5-e.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id AJU22758; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:54:48 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 From: Cullen Jennings To: , CC: Jonathan Rosenberg , Cullen Jennings Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Iptel] Draft Agenda IPTEL WG, IETF 58 Sender: iptel-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Telephony List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 22:53:25 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wednesday Nov 12, 9:00 Saloon F 5 min - Agenda Bash 10 min - Status Update 20 min - User=phone discussion www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-rfc2806bis-02.txt www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mahy-sipping-user-equals-phone-00.txt www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/sipping/current/msg05386.html Finish way early. _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Nov 16 20:02:25 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA13708 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:02:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ALXmH-0004yn-Jn for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:02:06 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAH1255M019129 for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:02:05 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ALXmH-0004yS-EU for iptel-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:02:05 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA13681 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ALXmF-0005jw-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:02:03 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ALXmE-0005jp-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:02:02 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ALXmC-0004xM-PC; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:02:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ALXlR-0004wN-5h for iptel@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:01:14 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA13645 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:00:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ALXlL-0005jA-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:01:07 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ALXlL-0005gc-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:01:07 -0500 Received: from cisco.com (171.71.177.238) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2003 17:08:29 -0800 Received: from mira-sjc5-e.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-e.cisco.com [171.71.163.15]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAH10btg003240; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (sjc-vpn4-706.cisco.com [10.21.82.194]) by mira-sjc5-e.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id AJZ68514; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:00:35 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 From: Cullen Jennings To: Henning Schulzrinne , Jonathan Rosenberg , , CC: Cullen Jennings , Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Iptel] IANA section of 2806bis and a few other things Sender: iptel-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Telephony List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:56:42 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was giving this one final read. I apologize for not getting to it sooner. Can you all (Jonathan too) have a look at the IANA section - my take is that it is probably not enough to create a new registry. It should probably also have instructions to update the tel in the URI-Scheme registry to point at this RFC. Have a read of it and let me know what you think. My take was that nothing came up in the user=phone debate that would result in a change to 2806bis. If folks feel otherwise, object really really soon. It's a NIT but the phone numbers seem to mostly be real numbers. I don't know the equivalent of example.com is but some carriers in +1 use 999 as an invalid area code. The 555 area code is reserved for information services so won't ever point at some poor unfortunate subscriber who gets the number shown in an RFC. I suspect this could change in Auth 48. The only place that the Yu tel extension stuff comes up (reference 13) seems to be in the "Change History" section. I think you could drop that section and this reference. This could happen in Auth 48. Cullen _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Nov 16 23:15:28 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA17666 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ALan7-0003a4-9Y for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:15:10 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAH4F9vP013763 for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:15:09 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ALan6-0003Zn-Sb for iptel-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:15:08 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA17656 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ALan4-0000OU-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:15:06 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ALan4-0000OR-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:15:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ALan1-0003XP-Jq; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:15:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ALamg-0003WX-9W for iptel@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:14:42 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA17639 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:14:29 -0500 (EST) From: Mpierce1@aol.com Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ALame-0000O3-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:14:40 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.163]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ALamd-0000Nn-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:14:39 -0500 Received: from Mpierce1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11f.27adf918 (4584); Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:11:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <11f.27adf918.2ce9a45e@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Iptel] IANA section of 2806bis and a few other things To: fluffy@cisco.com, hgs@cs.columbia.edu, jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com, avs@iki.fi, antti.vaha-sipila@nokai.com CC: iptel@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_11f.27adf918.2ce9a45e_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 10501 Sender: iptel-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Telephony List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:11:10 EST --part1_11f.27adf918.2ce9a45e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/16/2003 8:02:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, fluffy@cisco.com writes: > It's a NIT but the phone numbers seem to mostly be real numbers. I don't > know the equivalent of example.com is but some carriers in +1 use 999 as an > invalid area code. The 555 area code is reserved for information services so > won't ever point at some poor unfortunate subscriber who gets the number > shown in an RFC. I suspect this could change in Auth 48. > Good thought. In fact, the numbers 555-0100 through 555-0199 are reserved for "fictitious use", like in the movies. We should use those for examples (with any area code). See http://www.nanpa.com/number_resource_info/555_numbers.html. Mike --part1_11f.27adf918.2ce9a45e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 11/16/= 2003 8:02:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, fluffy@cisco.com writes:


It's a NIT but the phone nu= mbers seem to mostly be real numbers. I don't
know the equivalent of example.com is but some carriers in +1  use=20= 999 as an
invalid area code. The 555 area code is reserved for information service= s so
won't ever point at some poor unfortunate subscriber who gets the number
shown in an RFC. I suspect this could change in Auth 48.


Good thought. In fact, the numbers 555-0100 through 555-0199 are reserve= d for "fictitious use", like in the movies. We should use those for examples= (with any area code). See http://www.nanpa.com/number_resource_info/555_num= bers.html.

Mike
--part1_11f.27adf918.2ce9a45e_boundary-- _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Nov 20 02:54:10 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA21808 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:54:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMjdR-00064r-Uk for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:53:53 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAK7rr7l023355 for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:53:53 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMjdR-00064c-7v for iptel-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:53:53 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA21742 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:53:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMjdO-0005mb-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:53:50 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMjdN-0005lr-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:53:49 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMjcc-00060l-7U; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:53:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMjbk-0005zS-6E for iptel@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:52:08 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA21633 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMjbh-0005kn-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:52:05 -0500 Received: from [63.113.44.69] (helo=mail3.dynamicsoft.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMjbg-0005jz-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:52:04 -0500 Received: from dynamicsoft.com ([63.113.46.66]) by mail3.dynamicsoft.com (8.12.8/8.12.1) with ESMTP id hAK7pcca019606 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:51:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FBC7286.6090506@dynamicsoft.com> From: Jonathan Rosenberg Organization: dynamicsoft User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: list iptel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Iptel] comments and reviews on tel URI extensions solicited Sender: iptel-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Telephony List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:51:34 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, At this past IETF meeting, we discussed once again the fate of the three tel URI extensions under discussion within iptel: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mahy-iptel-cpc-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yu-tel-url-07.txt These drafts have received virtually no list discussions or comments. When no one steps up to spend time on documents, generate comments, and give input, it generally means that there is not really sufficient interest to continue moving forward with it. As a result, Cullen and I will remove these items from our consideration unless there is sufficient list discussion and comments on these drafts by mid-December to demonstrate real commitment to working on them. As a result, I strongly encourage interested parties to post comments and issues immediately. Thanks, Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 600 Lanidex Plaza Chief Technology Officer Parsippany, NJ 07054-2711 dynamicsoft jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.dynamicsoft.com _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Nov 20 10:50:35 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA10117 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:50:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMr4U-0002kc-VZ for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:50:19 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAKFoI2T010573 for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:50:18 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMr4T-0002kQ-CT for iptel-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:50:17 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA10098 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:50:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMr4Q-0004vk-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:50:14 -0500 Received: from manatick.foretec.com ([4.17.168.5] helo=manatick) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMr4Q-0004vh-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:50:14 -0500 Received: from [132.151.6.22] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by manatick with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMr4Q-0002eb-2W for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:50:14 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMr4N-0002jY-5F; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:50:11 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMqkB-0001gl-II for iptel@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:29:20 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA09297 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMqk9-0004er-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:29:17 -0500 Received: from mail4.telekom.de ([195.243.210.197]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMqk8-0004em-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:29:16 -0500 Received: from g8pbr.blf01.telekom.de by mail2.dmz.telekom.de with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:21:22 +0100 Received: by G8PBR.blf01.telekom.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:21:38 +0100 Message-Id: <953B9B08F98DD61183F8000347AE660102862D48@G8PPV.blf01.telekom.de> From: "Jesske, R" To: jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com, iptel@ietf.org Cc: "Alexeitsev, D" , "Pinker, Gerold" , "Poetzl, Joachim" , "Schuette, Wolfgang" , "Jesske, R" , jwalmsley@sonusnet.com, joachim.lueken@siemens.com, kmainwar@cisco.com, klaus.sindelar@nortelnetworks.com, "Albrecht, Baerbel" , michael.doeberl@nortelnetworks.com, mike@vocaltec.com, nkinder@sonusnet.com, r.muench@alcatel.de, lgantner@lucent.com, chogg@nortelnetworks.com, zebarth@nortelnetworks.com, taylor@nortelnetworks.com, Jean-marie.stupka@siemens.com Subject: AW: [Iptel] comments and reviews on tel URI extensions solicited MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: iptel-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Telephony List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:21:32 +0100 With regard to your comment I would like to remember my mail I sent 6 weeks ago. I get no comment on this mail. >Dear all,< >With regard to the draft draft-mahy-iptel-cpc-00 are there any activities to extend the tel URI with the cpc parameter?< >If yes where I can find more information? If no what is needed to put this forward as an issue.< >I'm also looking on interworking the Closed User Group PSTN/ISDN Supplementary Service with SIP. To make this service< >also available within SIP a extension with the regarding ISUP indications (Closed user group interlock code and Closed< >user group call indicator) are needed.< As they have the same character as the CPC I'm wondering if some body had some thoughts on an extension of the tel URI with such kind of parameters to make the CUG Service also in SIP available. From our point of view we need the cpc, also a closed user group indication something like the CIC (same as TNS within ISUP). I'm wondering that nobody else is interested in this issues. Best regards Roland > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: Jonathan Rosenberg [mailto:jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. November 2003 08:52 > An: list iptel > Betreff: [Iptel] comments and reviews on tel URI extensions solicited > > > Folks, > > At this past IETF meeting, we discussed once again the fate of the > three tel URI extensions under discussion within iptel: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-gro up-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mahy-iptel-cpc-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yu-tel-url-07.txt These drafts have received virtually no list discussions or comments. When no one steps up to spend time on documents, generate comments, and give input, it generally means that there is not really sufficient interest to continue moving forward with it. As a result, Cullen and I will remove these items from our consideration unless there is sufficient list discussion and comments on these drafts by mid-December to demonstrate real commitment to working on them. As a result, I strongly encourage interested parties to post comments and issues immediately. Thanks, Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 600 Lanidex Plaza Chief Technology Officer Parsippany, NJ 07054-2711 dynamicsoft jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.dynamicsoft.com _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Nov 22 17:40:28 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA23907 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ANgQF-0002DL-1Q for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:40:11 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAMMeBbf008507 for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:40:11 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ANgQE-0002D8-TS for iptel-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; 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Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:39:03 -0500 Received: from mail.oefeg.at ([62.47.121.5]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ANgP8-0003Fy-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:39:03 -0500 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: AW: [Iptel] comments and reviews on tel URI extensions solicited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Message-ID: <06CF906FE3998C4E944213062009F1622339C8@oefeg-s02.oefeg.loc> Thread-Topic: [Iptel] comments and reviews on tel URI extensions solicited Thread-Index: AcOvPBduZRYJ+3fWRR6bP02OmzcGrgCDWrXB From: "Stastny Richard" To: "Jonathan Rosenberg" , "list iptel" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Sender: iptel-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Telephony List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:43:51 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SSBvYmplY3QgYWdhaW5zdCB0aGUgcmVtb3ZhbCBvZiANCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuaWV0Zi5vcmcvaW50 ZXJuZXQtZHJhZnRzL2RyYWZ0LXl1LXRlbC11cmwtMDcudHh0IDxodHRwOi8vd3d3LmlldGYub3Jn L2ludGVybmV0LWRyYWZ0cy9kcmFmdC15dS10ZWwtdXJsLTA3LnR4dD4gDQoNCmZyb20gY29uc2lk ZXJhdGlvbi4gVGhlc2UgZXh0ZW5zaW9ucyBhcmUgaW1wb3J0YW50IGZvcg0KdGhlIHJlcGxhY2Vt ZW50IG9mIElOLVNlcnZpY2VzIHdpdGggRU5VTS4gVGhlIGV4dGVuc2lvbnMNCmhhdmUgYmVlbiBk aXNjdXNzZWQgYSBsb25nIHRpbWUgYWdvIGFuZCBubyBvYmplY3Rpb25zIHdoZXJlIHJhaXNlZC4N CiANClRoZSBkcmFmdCBoYXMgYmVlbiBvbiBob2xkIHVudGlsIHJmYzI4MDZiaXMgaXMgcmVhZHku IElNSE8gdGhlIGRyYWZ0DQpzaG91bGQgZ28gdG8gV0dMQyBpZiBubyBvYmplY3Rpb25zIGFyZSBy YWlzZWQuDQogDQpyZWdhcmRzDQpSaWNoYXJkIFN0YXN0bnkNCg0KCS0tLS0tVXJzcHLDvG5nbGlj aGUgTmFjaHJpY2h0LS0tLS0gDQoJVm9uOiBKb25hdGhhbiBSb3NlbmJlcmcgW21haWx0bzpqZHJv c2VuQGR5bmFtaWNzb2Z0LmNvbV0gDQoJR2VzZW5kZXQ6IERvIDIwLjExLjIwMDMgMDg6NTEgDQoJ QW46IGxpc3QgaXB0ZWwgDQoJQ2M6IA0KCUJldHJlZmY6IFtJcHRlbF0gY29tbWVudHMgYW5kIHJl dmlld3Mgb24gdGVsIFVSSSBleHRlbnNpb25zIHNvbGljaXRlZA0KCQ0KCQ0KDQoJRm9sa3MsDQoJ DQoJQXQgdGhpcyBwYXN0IElFVEYgbWVldGluZywgd2UgZGlzY3Vzc2VkIG9uY2UgYWdhaW4gdGhl IGZhdGUgb2YgdGhlDQoJdGhyZWUgdGVsIFVSSSBleHRlbnNpb25zIHVuZGVyIGRpc2N1c3Npb24g d2l0aGluIGlwdGVsOg0KCQ0KCWh0dHA6Ly93d3cuaWV0Zi5vcmcvaW50ZXJuZXQtZHJhZnRzL2Ry YWZ0LWlldGYtaXB0ZWwtdHJ1bmstZ3JvdXAtMDAudHh0DQoJaHR0cDovL3d3dy5pZXRmLm9yZy9p bnRlcm5ldC1kcmFmdHMvZHJhZnQtbWFoeS1pcHRlbC1jcGMtMDAudHh0DQoJaHR0cDovL3d3dy5p ZXRmLm9yZy9pbnRlcm5ldC1kcmFmdHMvZHJhZnQteXUtdGVsLXVybC0wNy50eHQNCgkNCglUaGVz ZSBkcmFmdHMgaGF2ZSByZWNlaXZlZCB2aXJ0dWFsbHkgbm8gbGlzdCBkaXNjdXNzaW9ucyBvciBj b21tZW50cy4NCglXaGVuIG5vIG9uZSBzdGVwcyB1cCB0byBzcGVuZCB0aW1lIG9uIGRvY3VtZW50 cywgZ2VuZXJhdGUgY29tbWVudHMsDQoJYW5kIGdpdmUgaW5wdXQsIGl0IGdlbmVyYWxseSBtZWFu cyB0aGF0IHRoZXJlIGlzIG5vdCByZWFsbHkgc3VmZmljaWVudA0KCWludGVyZXN0IHRvIGNvbnRp bnVlIG1vdmluZyBmb3J3YXJkIHdpdGggaXQuIEFzIGEgcmVzdWx0LCBDdWxsZW4gYW5kIEkNCgl3 aWxsIHJlbW92ZSB0aGVzZSBpdGVtcyBmcm9tIG91ciBjb25zaWRlcmF0aW9uIHVubGVzcyB0aGVy ZSBpcw0KCXN1ZmZpY2llbnQgbGlzdCBkaXNjdXNzaW9uIGFuZCBjb21tZW50cyBvbiB0aGVzZSBk cmFmdHMgYnkNCgltaWQtRGVjZW1iZXIgdG8gZGVtb25zdHJhdGUgcmVhbCBjb21taXRtZW50IHRv IHdvcmtpbmcgb24gdGhlbS4NCgkNCglBcyBhIHJlc3VsdCwgSSBzdHJvbmdseSBlbmNvdXJhZ2Ug aW50ZXJlc3RlZCBwYXJ0aWVzIHRvIHBvc3QgY29tbWVudHMNCglhbmQgaXNzdWVzIGltbWVkaWF0 ZWx5Lg0KCQ0KCVRoYW5rcywNCglKb25hdGhhbiBSLg0KCS0tDQoJSm9uYXRoYW4gRC4gUm9zZW5i ZXJnLCBQaC5ELiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICA2MDAgTGFuaWRleCBQbGF6YQ0KCUNoaWVmIFRlY2hu b2xvZ3kgT2ZmaWNlciAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgUGFyc2lwcGFueSwgTkogMDcwNTQtMjcx MQ0KCWR5bmFtaWNzb2Z0DQoJamRyb3NlbkBkeW5hbWljc29mdC5jb20gICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICBGQVg6ICAgKDk3MykgOTUyLTUwNTANCglodHRwOi8vd3d3Lmpkcm9zZW4ubmV0ICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIFBIT05FOiAoOTczKSA5NTItNTAwMA0KCWh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZHluYW1p Y3NvZnQuY29tDQoJDQoJDQoJDQoJX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX18NCglJcHRlbCBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QNCglJcHRlbEBpZXRmLm9yZw0KCWh0dHBz Oi8vd3d3LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vaXB0ZWwNCgkNCg0K _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Nov 23 08:59:24 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA21115 for ; 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Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:58:13 -0000 From: "Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP)" To: Jonathan Rosenberg Cc: list iptel In-Reply-To: <3FBC7286.6090506@dynamicsoft.com> References: <3FBC7286.6090506@dynamicsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <15659AA2-1DBD-11D8-A7D2-00039355516C@roke.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Iptel] comments and reviews on tel URI extensions solicited X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: iptel-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Telephony List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:58:15 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jonathon, folks, I agree with Richard; I *had* assumed that James' document was just waiting for the interminable discussions on the tel URL to complete and for it to come out as an RFC i.e. it's in limbo until 2806-bis comes out. Did I miss someone objecting to yu-tel-url-07? - I can't find any complaint on the ML archive. atb, Lawrence On 20 Nov 2003, at 7:51 am, Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: > Folks, > > At this past IETF meeting, we discussed once again the fate of the > three tel URI extensions under discussion within iptel: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-00.txt > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mahy-iptel-cpc-00.txt > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yu-tel-url-07.txt > > These drafts have received virtually no list discussions or comments. > When no one steps up to spend time on documents, generate comments, > and give input, it generally means that there is not really sufficient > interest to continue moving forward with it. As a result, Cullen and I > will remove these items from our consideration unless there is > sufficient list discussion and comments on these drafts by > mid-December to demonstrate real commitment to working on them. > > As a result, I strongly encourage interested parties to post comments > and issues immediately. _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Nov 24 07:12:19 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA05369 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:12:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AOFZS-00051G-6U for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:12:02 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAOCC2p8019292 for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:12:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AOFZS-000515-1b for iptel-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:12:02 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA05365 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AOFZP-000340-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:11:59 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AOFZO-00033t-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:11:58 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AOFZR-00050E-Bu; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:12:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AOFYa-0004zH-Sm for iptel@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:11:08 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA05316 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AOFYW-00032F-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:11:04 -0500 Received: from newman.gte.com ([132.197.8.26]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AOFYV-00031U-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:11:03 -0500 Received: from verizon.com ([132.197.71.219]) by newman.gte.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA26943 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:10:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [Iptel] comments and reviews on tel URI extensions solicited Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Stevan Leiden To: "list iptel" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <15659AA2-1DBD-11D8-A7D2-00039355516C@roke.co.uk> Message-Id: <53F536C2-1E77-11D8-B1A9-0030654DA3BA@verizon.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: iptel-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Telephony List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:11:26 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can a draft-rfc go to WGLC if it's not a WG work item generated document (as I assume, since I don't see draft-ietf-iptel-tel-uri)? shl On Sunday, November 23, 2003, at 08:58 AM, Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP) wrote: > Hi Jonathon, folks, > I agree with Richard; I *had* assumed that James' document was just > waiting for the > interminable discussions on the tel URL to complete and for it to come > out as an RFC > i.e. it's in limbo until 2806-bis comes out. > > Did I miss someone objecting to yu-tel-url-07? - I can't find any > complaint on the ML > archive. > > atb, > Lawrence > > On 20 Nov 2003, at 7:51 am, Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> At this past IETF meeting, we discussed once again the fate of the >> three tel URI extensions under discussion within iptel: >> >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group- >> 00.txt >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mahy-iptel-cpc-00.txt >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yu-tel-url-07.txt >> >> These drafts have received virtually no list discussions or comments. >> When no one steps up to spend time on documents, generate comments, >> and give input, it generally means that there is not really >> sufficient interest to continue moving forward with it. As a result, >> Cullen and I will remove these items from our consideration unless >> there is sufficient list discussion and comments on these drafts by >> mid-December to demonstrate real commitment to working on them. >> >> As a result, I strongly encourage interested parties to post comments >> and issues immediately. > > _______________________________________________ > Iptel mailing list > Iptel@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel > > _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Nov 24 09:28:22 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA09308 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AOHh8-0004LW-Kr for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:28:07 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAOES6Tv016689 for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:28:06 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AOHh8-0004L6-Gu for iptel-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:28:06 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA09297 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AOHh6-0005vu-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:28:04 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AOHh6-0005vr-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:28:04 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AOHh3-0004Ju-M6; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:28:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AOHgf-0004Ia-35 for iptel@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:27:37 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA09235 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:27:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AOHgd-0005uX-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:27:35 -0500 Received: from pine.neustar.com ([209.173.57.70]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AOHgc-0005ti-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:27:34 -0500 Received: from chiimc01.npac.com (chiimc01.neustar.com [10.32.90.4]) by pine.neustar.com (8.12.8/8.11.0) with ESMTP id hAOEQtbA022535; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:26:55 GMT Received: by CHIIMC01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:26:57 -0600 Message-ID: <4F29BE4689992A4B994A440C3EC924DB012D4F34@stntexch01.va.neustar.com> From: "Yu, James" To: Jonathan Rosenberg Cc: list iptel Subject: RE: [Iptel] comments and reviews on tel URI extensions solicited MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: iptel-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Telephony List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:26:54 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jonathan, I submitted draft-yu-tel-url-08.txt last week. As Richard indicated, = this I-D is waiting for rfc2806bis. Please note that this I-D is referenced by Cable Labs. in the CMSS specification. James > -----Original Message----- > From: Stastny Richard [mailto:Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at] > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:44 PM > To: Jonathan Rosenberg; list iptel > Subject: AW: [Iptel] comments and reviews on tel URI extensions > solicited >=20 >=20 > I object against the removal of=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yu-tel-url-07.txt=20 > =20 >=20 > from consideration. These extensions are important for > the replacement of IN-Services with ENUM. The extensions > have been discussed a long time ago and no objections where raised. > =20 > The draft has been on hold until rfc2806bis is ready. IMHO the draft > should go to WGLC if no objections are raised. > =20 > regards > Richard Stastny >=20 > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----=20 > Von: Jonathan Rosenberg [mailto:jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com]=20 > Gesendet: Do 20.11.2003 08:51=20 > An: list iptel=20 > Cc:=20 > Betreff: [Iptel] comments and reviews on tel URI=20 > extensions solicited > =09 > =09 >=20 > Folks, > =09 > At this past IETF meeting, we discussed once again the=20 > fate of the > three tel URI extensions under discussion within iptel: > =09 > =09 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-gro up-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mahy-iptel-cpc-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yu-tel-url-07.txt =09 These drafts have received virtually no list discussions or comments. When no one steps up to spend time on documents, generate comments, and give input, it generally means that there is not really sufficient interest to continue moving forward with it. As a result, Cullen and I will remove these items from our consideration unless there is sufficient list discussion and comments on these drafts by mid-December to demonstrate real commitment to working on them. =09 As a result, I strongly encourage interested parties to post comments and issues immediately. =09 Thanks, Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 600 Lanidex Plaza Chief Technology Officer Parsippany, NJ 07054-2711 dynamicsoft jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.dynamicsoft.com =09 =09 =09 _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel =09 "^f)+-"=E8=82=9B^'~=06i=08=CA=9E+=C6=92Yb=E9=84=B2~=D7=A5 _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Nov 26 23:51:21 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA11969 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:51:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1APE7N-0001b6-46 for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:51:05 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAR4p506006134 for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:51:05 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1APE7M-0001ar-Vr for iptel-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:51:05 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA11963 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:50:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1APE7K-0002W9-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:51:02 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1APE7K-0002W5-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:51:02 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1APE7K-0001aE-Gg; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:51:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1APE76-0001Zt-Dy for iptel@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:50:52 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA11945 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:50:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1APE74-0002VW-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:50:46 -0500 Received: from joy.songbird.com ([208.184.79.7]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1APE73-0002VG-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:50:45 -0500 Received: from ibm-eyjgx9r6nqt.shockey.us (h-68-165-240-35.MCLNVA23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) by joy.songbird.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR4uif16658; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:56:46 -0800 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20031126234413.03ad5ec0@joy.songbird.com> X-Sender: richard@joy.songbird.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 To: "Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP)" , Jonathan Rosenberg From: Richard Shockey Subject: Re: [Iptel] comments and reviews on tel URI extensions solicited Cc: list iptel In-Reply-To: <15659AA2-1DBD-11D8-A7D2-00039355516C@roke.co.uk> References: <3FBC7286.6090506@dynamicsoft.com> <15659AA2-1DBD-11D8-A7D2-00039355516C@roke.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: iptel-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Telephony List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:50:01 -0500 At 08:58 AM 11/23/2003, Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP) wrote: >Hi Jonathon, folks, > I agree with Richard; I *had* assumed that James' document was just > waiting for the >interminable discussions on the tel URL to complete and for it to come out >as an RFC >i.e. it's in limbo until 2806-bis comes out. > >Did I miss someone objecting to yu-tel-url-07? - I can't find any >complaint on the ML >archive. Can we move this document to last call ASAP? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org ENUM +87810-13313-31331 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or ; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Nov 30 23:01:26 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA22767 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AQfFG-0006o5-To for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:01:11 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB141A69026164 for iptel-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:01:10 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AQfFG-0006nv-Dl for iptel-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:01:10 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA22745 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:00:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AQfFC-00025g-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:01:06 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AQfFC-00025c-00 for iptel-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:01:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AQfF8-0006mx-1a; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:01:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AQfEy-0006jZ-A2 for iptel@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:00:52 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA22734 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:00:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AQfEu-00025H-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:00:48 -0500 Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com ([192.11.222.163] helo=ihemail2.firewall.lucent.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AQfEt-000257-00 for iptel@ietf.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:00:47 -0500 Received: from ihmail.ih.lucent.com (h135-1-218-70.lucent.com [135.1.218.70]) by ihemail2.firewall.lucent.com (Switch-2.2.8/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id hB140D029317; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:00:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from lucent.com (vkg.lra.lucent.com [135.255.30.39]) by ihmail.ih.lucent.com (8.11.7+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2) id hB140Bh28628; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:00:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FCABCCC.7090700@lucent.com> From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020417 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Medhavi Bhatia CC: iptel@ietf.org References: <035801c3b49f$561f2fb0$0200a8c0@laptopeng3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Iptel] Re: [Sip] draft-ietf-iptel-trunk-group-00.txt Sender: iptel-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: iptel-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: iptel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Telephony List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:00:12 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Medhavi Bhatia wrote: > Folks, > > Is this draft being revived ? We had some questions/comments on the > syntax specified in it and were wondering if this was being worked on or > dropped. > > Medhavi. Medhavi: This work is being done in the IPTEL WG. The work continues; at the 58th IETF in Minneapolis, there were some discussions between the authors. The result of these is a new revision to the I-D. The ball is now in my court; I am working on incorporating some previous comments and our discussions at the 58th IETF. I plan to have the rev'ed I-D to the co-authors by the middle of the first week of December and to the IPTEL WG list shortly thereafter. So, please stay tuned till next week. _______________________________________________ Iptel mailing list Iptel@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iptel