From nobody Mon Mar 9 13:07:16 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8BF1A9102 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2015 13:07:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.983 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.983 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sUEv7SJAHwhd for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2015 13:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr (oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr [132.168.224.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 573131AC40D for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2015 13:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id t29K6xIv029736 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2015 21:06:59 +0100 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F5E6209801 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2015 21:07:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from muguet2.intra.cea.fr (muguet2.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.7]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1842029FA for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2015 21:07:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([132.166.86.6]) by muguet2.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id t29K6vMm030074 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 2015 21:06:58 +0100 Message-ID: <54FDFD61.5020704@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2015 21:06:57 +0100 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "its@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [geonet/its] Draft about C-ACC and Platooning use-cases involving V2V concepts X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2015 20:07:11 -0000 Hi, We are working on a draft describing the Cooperative-Adaptive Cruise Control, and Platooning use-cases involving vehicle-to-vehicle concepts. We have published an initial version: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petrescu-its-cacc-sdo-00 Please comment on this draft prior to the Dallas meeting. We'll get a chance to talk about it in Dallas as well. Yours, Alex From nobody Tue Mar 10 19:06:56 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154B31A8ACD for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 19:06:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zBpcgecsTm6F for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 19:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-x231.google.com (mail-pd0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED9941A89A2 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 19:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pdev10 with SMTP id v10so6927107pde.13 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 19:06:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type; bh=dqc+ScHn8/6ttMsEgTWJJf5nky0ZBQR6Iqfma6gzcLg=; b=QGDcrTgTIb4OlCMbGyVd2Xj48/heVXsxLVV/ychEmMoFK6rgqFdZd2CDH0dtJ4VIKG 8+e9nbglbv3zD9dUZqrvemKwO8Fl7eGXb2TtZ+4EXp/frZW+v9XGT52JZTXy8AiPC46P b46757DLmGo3679JzUHvphinWEzn4ZSRpn2yt47xOd2xFB3i9iPFu9ZWSZHE2pTpdoMQ KvrUjQ5/18KOAIHdURX4VHY+/TXFiQAqGWNhkRH6aBObJyAFVtkIgjui5frRptLoqub5 G07jerNwP+WZPZTuN1PdaIfs01uBHl3UjozhYwCKBPr/XQ/rCqSDT5wW34SSDWB2dtsn SRxA== X-Received: by 10.70.91.75 with SMTP id cc11mr72723998pdb.150.1426039611532; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 19:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.128.139] ([202.55.20.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q4sm871523pdj.2.2015.03.10.19.06.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Mar 2015 19:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 10:06:44 +0800 From: Dapeng Liu To: "=?utf-8?Q?its=40ietf.org?=" Message-ID: <7F5B66843F1F428F8DC31E998BE5E769@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20150309153453.22989.74733.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20150309153453.22989.74733.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.4 (build 1176) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="54ffa334_7338868f_d8" Archived-At: Subject: [geonet/its] =?utf-8?Q?=E8=BD=AC=E5=8F=91=EF=BC=9A_?=New Version Notification for draft-liu-its-scenario-00.txt X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." 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Thanks, -- =20 Dapeng Liu =E8=BD=AC=E5=8F=91=E7=9A=84=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=EF=BC=9A > =E6=9D=A5=E8=87=AA=EF=BC=9A internet-drafts=40ietf.org > =E8=87=B3=EF=BC=9A Dapeng Liu > =E6=97=A5=E6=9C=9F=EF=BC=9A 2015=E5=B9=B43=E6=9C=889=E6=97=A5 =E6=98=9F= =E6=9C=9F=E4=B8=80 =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=8811:34:53 > =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98=EF=BC=9A New Version Notification for draft-liu-its-= scenario-00.txt > =20 > =20 > A new version of I-D, draft-liu-its-scenario-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Dapeng Liu and posted to the > IET=46 repository. > =20 > Name: draft-liu-its-scenario > Revision: 00 > Title: Scenario of Intelligent Transportation System > Document date: 2015-03-09 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 6 > URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-liu-its-scenario-00.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-its-scenario/ > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-its-scenario-00 > =20 > =20 > Abstract: > This document discuss the scenario of intelligent transportation > system. > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submi= ssion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org (ht= tp://tools.ietf.org). > =20 > The IET=46 Secretariat =20 --54ffa334_7338868f_d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Hello all,

I submit a draft that summarize= s the scenario and requirement of ITS related mobile applications.
<= div>The intention is to facilitate the ITS barbof discussion in Dallas.

Thanks,
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=
Dapeng Liu

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=20 =E6=9D=A5=E8=87=AA=EF=BC=9A internet-draft= s=40ietf.org
=20 =20 =20 =E8=87=B3=EF=BC=9A Dapeng Liu <maxpassi= on=40gmail.com>
=20 =20 =E6=97=A5=E6=9C=9F=EF=BC=9A 2015=E5=B9=B43= =E6=9C=889=E6=97=A5 =E6=98=9F=E6=9C=9F=E4=B8=80 =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=8811:34:5= 3
=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98=EF=BC=9A New Version No= tification for draft-liu-its-scenario-00.txt
=20
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A new version of I= -D, draft-liu-its-scenario-00.txt
has been successfully submitt= ed by Dapeng Liu and posted to the
IET=46 repository.

Name: draft-liu-its-scenario
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Title: Scenario of Intelligent Transportation System
Doc= ument date: 2015-03-09
Group: Individual Submission
= Pages: 6
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Abstract:
This document discuss= the scenario of intelligent transportation
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Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time o= f submission
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--54ffa334_7338868f_d8-- From nobody Sun Mar 22 13:16:49 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856391A1A7E for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 13:16:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.282 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.282 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OclFn8t7DDKy for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 13:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3B4B1A1A6C for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 13:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by sainfoin.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id t2MKGi87017505 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 21:16:44 +0100 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id B433B2007F8 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 21:17:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from muguet2.intra.cea.fr (muguet2.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.7]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04782023D5 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 21:17:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([132.166.86.10]) by muguet2.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id t2MKGH9U002502 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 21:16:43 +0100 Message-ID: <550F2310.8030507@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 21:16:16 +0100 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "its@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030303030202090606080103" Archived-At: Subject: [geonet/its] meet Tuesday evening discuss draft-petrescu-its-cacc-sdo-00 X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 20:16:48 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030303030202090606080103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, We will meet Tuesday evening to discuss this draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petrescu-its-cacc-sdo-00 We will meet at the IETF Registration Desk. I will soon confirm the precise hour. Yours, Alex --------------030303030202090606080103 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

We will meet Tuesday evening to discuss this draft:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petrescu-its-cacc-sdo-00

We will meet at the IETF Registration Desk.

I will soon confirm the precise hour.

Yours,

Alex
 --------------030303030202090606080103-- From nobody Sun Mar 22 19:33:15 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B6A1A8766 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:33:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.983 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.983 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CJgsXOAwyzJv for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AACA1A1BC3 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by sainfoin.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id t2N2X8Yg007136 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 03:33:08 +0100 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 910B42023E3 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 03:33:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from muguet1.intra.cea.fr (muguet1.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.6]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF49200C4E for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 03:33:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([132.166.86.1]) by muguet1.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id t2N2X50d004769 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 03:33:08 +0100 Message-ID: <550F7B60.9070607@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 03:33:04 +0100 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "its@ietf.org" References: <550F2310.8030507@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <550F2310.8030507@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [geonet/its] meet Wednesday 19h10 IETF RegDesk discuss draft-petrescu-its-cacc-sdo-00 X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 02:33:13 -0000 Hello, Sorry, I forgot Tue evening was the Social Event. Let's meet Wednesday at 19h10 at the IETF RegDesk (right after the ops Plenary). Alex Le 22/03/2015 21:16, Alexandru Petrescu a écrit : > Hi, > > We will meet Tuesday evening to discuss this draft: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petrescu-its-cacc-sdo-00 > > We will meet at the IETF Registration Desk. > > I will soon confirm the precise hour. > > Yours, > > Alex > > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > From nobody Tue Mar 24 18:41:18 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82EF1A6F1D for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:41:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.084 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.084 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0q7LomIFiN4Y for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr (oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr [132.168.224.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C231B1A6F02 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id t2P1fCNU030916 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 02:41:12 +0100 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 300CD200C68 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 02:41:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from muguet2.intra.cea.fr (muguet2.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.7]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5E8200B52 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 02:41:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([132.166.84.22]) by muguet2.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id t2P1f5Ft026737 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 02:41:11 +0100 Message-ID: <55121231.4090806@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:41:05 -0500 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "its@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [geonet/its] FYI: 3GPP works on V2X X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 01:41:17 -0000 Hello, For your information, in March 2015 3GPP informed ETSI as well as other SDOs that they work on V2X for Release 14. It says "3GPP TSG SA would like to inform ETSI ITS, US SAE, US ITSA, Korean Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport, GSMA Connected Living and IEEE that V2X study has been started in SA WG1 to identify use cases and requirements for LTE V2X (V2V, V2I, and V2P)." We have this Internet Draft draft-petrescu-its-cacc-sdo-00.txt which covers 3GPP and V2X in section 6.2. If we can do something at IETF about V2V for 3GPP I am all ears. Alex From nobody Thu Mar 26 09:55:20 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F781A887F for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.983 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.983 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o6IO0KnmnvnF for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 09:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96AD91A8766 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 09:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by sainfoin.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id t2QGtFL4026324 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:55:15 +0100 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id D9F21204F3B for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:56:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from muguet2.intra.cea.fr (muguet2.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.7]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70D0204E70 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:56:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([132.166.84.136]) by muguet2.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id t2QGtDHl019612 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:55:15 +0100 Message-ID: <551439F1.1020403@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:55:13 -0500 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "its@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [geonet/its] what we discussed X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 16:55:19 -0000 Yesterday evening we discussed about the C-ACC and Platooning use-cases at ETSI and other V2V use-cases at other SDOs. We will update the two drafts with at least the following: - description of the ETSI ITS C-ACC and Platooning use-cases - apps used in China similar to irezq and coyote We will try a stab at charter for V2V communications. Alex From nobody Fri Mar 27 09:24:41 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9711C1A1BA9 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:24:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.983 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.983 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zODTvqkP___e for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr (oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr [132.168.224.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9ADC61A01AA for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id t2RGOYcZ032545; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:24:34 +0100 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id E7B08205584; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:25:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from muguet2.intra.cea.fr (muguet2.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.7]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6EB20113F; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:25:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([132.166.84.37]) by muguet2.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id t2RGO85W020246; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:24:33 +0100 Message-ID: <55158426.8070104@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 11:24:06 -0500 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dickroy@alum.mit.edu, its@ietf.org References: <551439F1.1020403@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [geonet/its] what we discussed X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 16:24:40 -0000 Le 26/03/2015 18:13, Richard Roy a écrit : > I assume that by taking a "stab at a charter for V2V > communications", you mean some MAC&PHY independent "IP > networking-related aspect of V2V communications". It would be > important to ensure such independence since there are likely to be > several candidate media (MAC&PHYs) ultimately involved, including but > not limited to 5.9GHz, 63GHz, IR, and possibly even 5.4GHz WiFi. Certainly yes. I think ISO may consider all these kinds of links and that only IP can work with each. We would need to have this aspect highlighted in a charter proposal. That said, making run IPv6 over 60-ish GHz links (802.11ad presumably[*]) would need to be documented in its own IPv6-over-foo draft. Because that would be needed in homenets as well, in addition to vehicular comms. IP-over-5.4GHz would be IP-over-WiFi, unless the use of 5.4GHz in vehicular environments, currently debated in America, exposes some peculiar functionality distinguishing it from WiFi. Is there any? IPv6 over LiFi - LiFi is a new link considered in vehicular and office networks. Running IP over LiFi would be new, deserves its draft. IPv6 over IrDA (infrared): this is an old kind of link; years ago it was treated as IP-over-SLIP or IP-over-PPP and there are RFCs for each. I have not seen recently IrDA deployed, but experts in this area may have other vues. Is there recent IrDA interfaces? Or other ways to use infrared? Alex [*] Sidenote: the 60-ish GHz radios (not 11ad) are already present in many vehicles, although they are used only as bouncing signals (radars), not two-way communications. IP would typically be applied in two-way communications; IP with UDLR (uni-directional link routing) is used in some satellite one-way broadcasting. Not sure UDLR semantics applies to this signal bouncing semantics of existing vehicular 60-ish GHz radars. Making IPv6 run over bidirectional 60-ish GHz links like 802.11ad would be a significant step forward for functionality beyond simple bouncing. E.g. instead of a car just learning it approaches an obstacle it would also tell it so, so it would get out of the way. The ICMP's Echo Request/Reply (ping) carrying a position value in the payload would also be highly valuable. > > Cheers, > > RR > >> -----Original Message----- From: Alexandru Petrescu >> [mailto:alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 26, >> 2015 9:55 AM To: its@ietf.org Subject: [geonet/its] what we >> discussed >> >> Yesterday evening we discussed about the C-ACC and Platooning >> use-cases at ETSI and other V2V use-cases at other SDOs. >> >> We will update the two drafts with at least the following: - >> description of the ETSI ITS C-ACC and Platooning use-cases - apps >> used in China similar to irezq and coyote >> >> We will try a stab at charter for V2V communications. >> >> Alex >> > > > >