From nobody Fri Oct 19 11:58:52 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietf.org Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E561C131065; Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:56:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: suresh@kaloom.com, its@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.87.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <153997538893.6592.11593327923947001244.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:56:28 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] ipwave - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 103 X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 18:56:36 -0000 Dear Russ Housley, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. ipwave Session 1 (1:00 requested) Tuesday, 6 November 2018, Morning Session II 1120-1220 Room Name: Chitlada 3 size: 200 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/sessions/ipwave.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Russ Housley Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1 Hour Number of Attendees: 50 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: dmm detnet nfvrg lamps stir intarea 6lo 6man manet rtgarea saag l2sm suit Second Priority: sfc cfrg dhc roll i2nsf secdispatch People who must be present: Russell Housley Suresh Krishnan Carlos J. Bernardos Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Oct 22 14:23:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietf.org Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3BA1292AD; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:23:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: its@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.87.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: its@ietf.org Message-ID: <154024338202.13425.7654528388811900751@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:23:02 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-05.txt X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 21:23:03 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG of the IETF. Title : IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases Author : Jaehoon Paul Jeong Filename : draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-05.txt Pages : 32 Date : 2018-10-22 Abstract: This document discusses the problem statement and use cases on IP- based vehicular networks, which are considered a key component of Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS). The main scenarios of vehicular communications are vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to- infrastructure (V2I), and vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications. First, this document surveys use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X networking. Second, it analyzes proposed protocols for IP-based vehicular networking and highlights the limitations and difficulties found on those protocols. Third, it presents a problem exploration for key aspects in IP-based vehicular networking, such as IPv6 Neighbor Discovery, Mobility Management, and Security & Privacy. For each key aspect, this document discusses a problem statement to evaluate the gap between the state-of-the-art techniques and requirements in IP-based vehicular networking. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-05 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Oct 22 15:18:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietf.org Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC20130EB9; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:18:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: its@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.87.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: its@ietf.org Message-ID: <154024670900.13425.15363979454165295539@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:18:29 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-06.txt X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 22:18:35 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG of the IETF. Title : IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases Author : Jaehoon Paul Jeong Filename : draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-06.txt Pages : 32 Date : 2018-10-22 Abstract: This document discusses the problem statement and use cases on IP- based vehicular networks, which are considered a key component of Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS). The main scenarios of vehicular communications are vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to- infrastructure (V2I), and vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications. First, this document surveys use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X networking. Second, it analyzes proposed protocols for IP-based vehicular networking and highlights the limitations and difficulties found on those protocols. Third, it presents a problem exploration for key aspects in IP-based vehicular networking, such as IPv6 Neighbor Discovery, Mobility Management, and Security & Privacy. For each key aspect, this document discusses a problem statement to evaluate the gap between the state-of-the-art techniques and requirements in IP-based vehicular networking. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Oct 23 00:23:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F47130E08 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 00:23:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f0vxnldk8H2t for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 00:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C1B3130EDD for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 00:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2ED2300A46 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 03:23:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id J_wHOTfkNJxF for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 03:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [5.5.33.206] (vpn.snozzages.com [204.42.252.17]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A1792300288 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 03:23:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Message-Id: <1D157AAD-90D6-43D8-84BC-954DCBBA656C@vigilsec.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 03:23:34 -0400 To: IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments Discussion List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] Draft IPWAVE Agenda for IETF 103 X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 07:23:40 -0000 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-ipwave-00 Please send comments to the list. Russ From nobody Tue Oct 23 01:33:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCD3130E1E for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 01:33:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.632 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.632 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TxepEnLmCMj5 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 01:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxalide-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (oxalide-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.168.224.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 048DB127148 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 01:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id w9N8X3AI074373 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:33:03 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D5BF2024EB for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:33:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.12]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835272017EE for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:33:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.8.34.184] (is227335.intra.cea.fr [10.8.34.184]) by muguet1-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id w9N8X3te010410 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:33:03 +0200 To: its@ietf.org References: <1D157AAD-90D6-43D8-84BC-954DCBBA656C@vigilsec.com> From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <72e2d6b4-7f1c-8255-95f5-c65036f3a87c@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:33:03 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1D157AAD-90D6-43D8-84BC-954DCBBA656C@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Draft IPWAVE Agenda for IETF 103 X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:33:09 -0000 Hi, For the IP/OCB slot: Presenter's name: Unfortunately I can not make it to the next IETF. We discussed among co-authors and maybe Nabil could. With respect to the contents: - the draft is updated with all recent comments since last IETF, including comments from 6man WG, from Erik and from the HRPC (Human Rights Protocol Considerations, Amelia). - during the HRPC review there was a request of adding a section titled "Pseudonym Handling". The section is there, but empty. We try to find someone to fill it in? https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-30#page-5 Alex Le 23/10/2018 à 09:23, Russ Housley a écrit : > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-ipwave-00 > > Please send comments to the list. > > Russ > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > From nobody Tue Oct 23 02:41:00 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A825130FEE for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 02:40:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.748 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.748 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iyOeWOhV3TRi for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 02:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com (mail-lf1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79A30130F41 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 02:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x132.google.com with SMTP id p34-v6so587495lfg.10 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 02:40:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Lf+sIM0FAcRNR1thUt1lHc+kETJv46Qg20UnivuE6Vw=; b=OEsrzGyiLAhaBlsRfWBqcR3zoguZhM8S9mVoQ4rz9aM+cBaFGRQYRTp6IeLyh610Ms xF/WwFAgb3ej8Dg1rWeftYFPM0swJT+6XQz1Fki6fSMxFxPNVvLLqldRab3KkhxmLKtH yyTUCKLSP/adijN67GhjQmY73EmkthcY+bQY7vJlwju4Zx/6KbPpyH9dIi9RgLlXqvRS o6VnQjEpgnvE10AlZBT3+3jO9Mx/9FF6mbfpPizVudP7vB5RLHmp2rc5cFOzAWyVpvQG LZ98B0drs0BvicbilQdrg3EvQ2JCpw4sLpN4AUa4mSkJCDgI0oimw6t6vGLj8CAYuteC mzqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Lf+sIM0FAcRNR1thUt1lHc+kETJv46Qg20UnivuE6Vw=; b=EJWg8vYvJ5V1chJt5n0tuW4/6IvHM8GR3pNk3vEOvHgDVS3b1klDs5SYC9xljIQjVt /QypFJDwqwMubWMKO4/f4d33wep2DrU1bwSFVltvv8Chov6AWaLClcRNaYLievAARuv5 wsF7wCxt9v/Whh4uJ3N7PDT0U0e8rpUySGQzsqP0E+QKLDAUEAJQRWSmJBc9p4PiNvTH lfNgeFplH1BZcza25czthfbBBlE7y2t2qsQinMuUnDuygGlmsvc/eGwdT5psukVjL9nk 7pc7ago8Pd+lJbkVriHb+1vAL4thkvk09cDRDRZ488e5Urpse+o3iIoqzxjujMKin0kk rWrA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfog6z8jysEdsMRa2yXBy31Xyl8gbk/D/8SAXOlAciy0zPt0EUBt4 weWp22hmvZL9F4E7BraO9nRZcY1AqCBwGXJsTCc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV6183sDf1ODAcQKuS4buTFssRAdD7iM3KimtDlhrag1/Q6LmClFKSwUZBgQtFD28OGfx9MlIAq9bWrOzqB+Wq50= X-Received: by 2002:a19:c4cc:: with SMTP id u195mr4885097lff.141.1540287647478; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 02:40:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1D157AAD-90D6-43D8-84BC-954DCBBA656C@vigilsec.com> <72e2d6b4-7f1c-8255-95f5-c65036f3a87c@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <72e2d6b4-7f1c-8255-95f5-c65036f3a87c@gmail.com> From: Nabil Benamar Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:40:36 +0100 Message-ID: To: Alexandre Petrescu Cc: "its@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000014765e0578e22a2e" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Draft IPWAVE Agenda for IETF 103 X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 09:40:58 -0000 --00000000000014765e0578e22a2e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Russ, All I will present our draft during IPWAVE session. Please update the agenda with my name. Thanks Best regards Nabil Benamar ------------------- =D9=86=D8=A8=D9=8A=D9=84 =D8=A8=D9=86=D8=B9=D9=85=D8=B1=D9=88 On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:33 AM Alexandre Petrescu < alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > For the IP/OCB slot: > > Presenter's name: Unfortunately I can not make it to the next IETF. > We discussed among co-authors and maybe Nabil could. > > With respect to the contents: > - the draft is updated with all recent comments since last IETF, > including comments from 6man WG, from Erik and from the HRPC (Human > Rights Protocol Considerations, Amelia). > - during the HRPC review there was a request of adding a section > titled "Pseudonym Handling". The section is there, but empty. > We try to find someone to fill it in? > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-30#page-= 5 > > Alex > > > Le 23/10/2018 =C3=A0 09:23, Russ Housley a =C3=A9crit : > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-ipwave-00 > > > > Please send comments to the list. > > > > Russ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > its mailing list > > its@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > --00000000000014765e0578e22a2e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Russ, All

I will present our draft durin= g IPWAVE session. Please update the agenda with my name.

Thanks
=


Best regards
Nabil Benamar
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On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:33 AM= Alexandre Petrescu <ale= xandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

For the IP/OCB slot:

Presenter's name: Unfortunately I can not make it to the next IETF.
We discussed among co-authors and maybe Nabil could.

With respect to the contents:
- the draft is updated with all recent comments since last IETF,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0including comments from 6man WG, from Erik and from the HRPC (= Human
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Rights Protocol Considerations, Amelia).
- during the HRPC review there was a request of adding a section
=C2=A0 =C2=A0titled "Pseudonym Handling".=C2=A0 The section is th= ere, but empty.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0We try to find someone to fill it in?

https://tools.ietf.org/htm= l/draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-30#page-5

Alex


Le 23/10/2018 =C3=A0 09:23, Russ Housley a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
> https://datatracker.ietf= .org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-ipwave-00
>
> Please send comments to the list.
>
> Russ
>
> _______________________________________________
> its mailing list
> its@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its
>

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--00000000000014765e0578e22a2e-- From nobody Tue Oct 23 05:16:22 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742BE130E35 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 05:16:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HK_NAME_FM_MR_MRS=1.499, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z7rXoJo343vz for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 05:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf1-x12d.google.com (mail-lf1-x12d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1C5912785F for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 05:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x12d.google.com with SMTP id a82-v6so947120lfa.4 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 05:16:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Ue6tnw9zK7Lxh85BlV3sFFQGokkLgLpRzmujHD8I/8g=; b=ogeATdHUQlLm1pY6haMN9/0fz/PsNO6h4MuenDOZGfoGFBcpUmUzJOcO0ys7fhvwwM 8GfY1LdLwEzD0gsy0ePuYjzn1r2RLAhLLtQhF5sxQH9He+FJaOhWNfB1d7FT9hMUJYjQ jt3JROmkw4uMUpkqLCFv+l5BIsoQXJ+0M9jikFaVkplyjOkcotCf6anX9D3xNgzmhQgQ z2TYpfYE0BFGsry507kriddAm+PWU1ul+/ugoYQl4QBKmCYO8tXcMS/ScfESB0NOT4Sq Ucyw0S018QrXzb8xVtIdotG+9LMomePCGrnlRwV5CJHmNddWgh2VuT/+SOIo3w7z9VlV OBvQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ue6tnw9zK7Lxh85BlV3sFFQGokkLgLpRzmujHD8I/8g=; b=UJWljNtwougZrEiUe9g+GgQCSU931KK1OY58t+4ZVeQ5bBZTCBoR95rPbpziNsFgmD Nb9myAQABpw5cWpr/6r0CdelMRUL9RbSX4eleaodJPymi2obnSXDkyeGMDCRtarKeNsV qBEt7FOLlIF6083nFwW3FsNJEvbVlamHNd3NgFRCIgjoguU0cRXWqlMF7tUDoMJlYrT4 6vbIsMZO03ITsSUrZgKYICKlWcNdD8qc4tRhHkAmFUgBQqK7xB9x2lMCUjn1tb2j3uvK 4Qm5sWaBUxeRaE6YseBj84/dm8z53dyusL2s+656EHQniQ5J/3qtZQYz1ScaqKIkqQyu DfvA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoi+LI6E6b1WAhKIsgx1pKK1h7Vvrwm1musBM45DEpsBkM8dSUVY 779OuUANMH+aW2Ylpv7DKwVgLvExfxI68PHqW88= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63IUmBwrkheg3TOshkZWFTc/HT+dz9J/oNsMRHEB57XQ3wY14UwrlJ+Tv6UWWxrMandoorny4sLucINVD9w1A0= X-Received: by 2002:a19:f115:: with SMTP id p21mr11080669lfh.20.1540296976805; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 05:16:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1D157AAD-90D6-43D8-84BC-954DCBBA656C@vigilsec.com> In-Reply-To: <1D157AAD-90D6-43D8-84BC-954DCBBA656C@vigilsec.com> From: "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 21:15:39 +0900 Message-ID: To: Russ Housley Cc: its@ietf.org, skku_iotlab_seminar@googlegroups.com, "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000026b2cf0578e45617" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Draft IPWAVE Agenda for IETF 103 X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 12:16:21 -0000 --00000000000026b2cf0578e45617 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Russ, Could you update the agenda with the latest version of our PS document as follows? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------ OLD: 11:55 IP-based Vehicular Networking: Use Cases, Survey and Problem Statement ..................................... 20 min Presenter: Jaehoon Paul Jeong Draft: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-04 NEW: 11:55 IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases ..................................... 20 min Presenter: Jaehoon Paul Jeong Draft: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-06 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------ I tried to reflect the comments from the volunteering reviewers (Erik Nordmark, Michelle Wetterwald, Dirk von Hugo, and Fran=C3=A7ois Simon) on the latest version of our IPWAVE PS document: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-06 I sincerely appreciate their efforts to improve this document. However, this latest PS document did not address Human Rights Review of draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-04 from Amelia Andersdotter yet. I think our IPWAVE WG will need to discuss what items should be addressed in the PS document. Thanks. Best Regards, Paul On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM Russ Housley wrote: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-ipwave-00 > > Please send comments to the list. > > Russ > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Software Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php --00000000000026b2cf0578e45617 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Russ,
Could you update t= he agenda with the latest version of our PS document as follows?
= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------
OLD:=C2=A0
11:55 IP-based Vehicular N= etworking: Use Cases, Survey and Problem Statement ........................= ............. 20 min
Presenter: Jaehoon Paul Jeong
Draf= t: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-04

NEW:
11:55=C2=A0 IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments (IPWAVE): Problem Statement an= d Use Cases=C2=A0..................................... 20 min
Pre= senter: Jaehoon Paul Jeong
Draft: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-net= working-06
------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------

I trie= d to reflect the comments from the volunteering reviewers (Erik Nordmark, M= ichelle Wetterwald, Dirk von Hugo, and Fran=C3=A7ois Simon)=C2=A0
on the latest version of our IPWAVE PS document:=C2=A0

I sincerely appreciate their efforts to improve= this document.

However, this latest PS document d= id not address Human Rights Review of draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networkin= g-04 from=C2=A0
Amelia Andersdotter yet.=C2=A0
I think = our IPWAVE WG will need to discuss what items should be addressed in the PS= document.

Thanks.

Best R= egards,
Paul

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM = Russ Housley <= housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
https://datatracker.ietf.org= /meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-ipwave-00

Please send comments to the list.

Russ

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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US-large X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Scan-Signature: 3cea6f85c46863b7448b52c7b19d39b8 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Draft IPWAVE Agenda for IETF 103 X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 23:35:36 -0000 Hi Alex, I feel like I didn't get back to this for a number of weeks, when I should have. Picking up an old question: RFC8280 doesn't need to be listed as a references, because it's a IRTF Research Group document. The review is meant to be helpful, not compulsory. Your changes to the draft following my comments (esp. what is now sect. 5, section 4.6, etc.) voided much of what I originally had envisaged could be the use of a specific subsection. Based on the current text in draft=C2=A0 30 and Dirks proposal I would like to put forward: "The demand for privacy protection of vehicles' and drivers' identities which could be granted by using a pseudonym or alias identity at the same time may hamper the required confidentiality of messages and trust between participants - especially in safety critical vehicular communication. *Particular challenges arise when the pseudonymization mechanism used relies on (randomized) re-addressing.* A proper pseudonymization tool operated by a trusted third party may be needed to ensure both aspects concurrently. *This is discussed in sect. 4.6 and 5.* Pseudonymity is also discussed in [I-D.ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking] in sect. 4.2.4 and 5.1.2." This ties back into the effort you've put into section 5 and 4, and a separate benefit ois convergence around a single concept ("pseudonymity") for describing one envisaged privacy feature (which is otherwise alternately described as randomization or re-addressing) that is relevant to the RFC. best regards, Amelia On 2018-10-23 14:57, Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de wrote: > Hi Alex, > thanks for all the effort you have put in updating the draft https://to= ols.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-30! > Very much appreciated! > > With respect to the empty section on 'Pseudonym Handling' and your - I = think still unanswered - question a month ago I would suggest an expert (= I am none, unfortunately) to add some text as > > The demand for privacy protection of vehicles' and drivers' identities = which could be granted by using a pseudonym or alias identity at the same= time may hamper the required confidentiality of messages and trust betwe= en participants - especially in safety critical vehicular communication. = A proper pseudonymization tool operated by a trusted third party may be = needed to ensure both aspects concurrently. Pseudonymity is also discuss= ed in [I-D.ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking] in sect. 4.2.4 and 5.1.2. > > BTW instead of very recently updated [I-D.ietf-ipwave-vehicular-network= ing] still the expired draft [I-D.ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey= ] is referenced in the OCB draft - I assume that is not intentional? > > Further nits in the latest version cover:=20 > Net-Iface =3D> Net_Iface > occured =3D> occurred > admninistered =3D> administered > > beside typos in references and Annex ... > > Thanks! > Kind regards > Dirk > > -----Original Message----- > From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre Petrescu= > Sent: Dienstag, 23. Oktober 2018 10:33 > To: its@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [ipwave] Draft IPWAVE Agenda for IETF 103 > > Hi, > > For the IP/OCB slot: > > Presenter's name: Unfortunately I can not make it to the next IETF. > We discussed among co-authors and maybe Nabil could. > > With respect to the contents: > - the draft is updated with all recent comments since last IETF, > including comments from 6man WG, from Erik and from the HRPC (Human > Rights Protocol Considerations, Amelia). > - during the HRPC review there was a request of adding a section > titled "Pseudonym Handling". The section is there, but empty. > We try to find someone to fill it in? > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-30#pag= e-5 > > Alex > > > Le 23/10/2018 =C3=A0 09:23, Russ Housley a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-ipwave-0= 0 >> >> Please send comments to the list. >> >> Russ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> its mailing list >> its@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >> > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its --=20 Amelia Andersdotter Technical Consultant, Digital Programme ARTICLE19 www.article19.org PGP: 3D5D B6CA B852 B988 055A 6A6F FEF1 C294 B4E8 0B55