From nobody Tue Aug 4 07:22:48 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FE83A0C9A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2020 07:22:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=boeing.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3xrDYrELVGU1 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2020 07:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clt-mbsout-01.mbs.boeing.net (clt-mbsout-01.mbs.boeing.net [130.76.144.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B5193A0C02 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2020 07:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clt-mbsout-01.mbs.boeing.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/DOWNSTREAM_MBSOUT) with SMTP id 074EMcIA004445; Tue, 4 Aug 2020 10:22:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=boeing.com; s=boeing-s1912; t=1596550959; bh=PbtnaMraSpU5LREN9CBVRDBOq4ad3t7FRB2kXdu5D8w=; h=From:To:CC:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=ZZD+pY47wv+cPWBIaM0f8DoJn8ogMtqkugYTAfzjfGdUc0TGhugQIwMxKM7DugIgt AuHalnyDGh4Y9JGRh0xBiCk0+R0d8MwyqnnPzqLbbtMGBS/ssXiU+HzDsGjALip5eB LVuyymlJABe6p2IySVkSkTfTcOgnMEPGQilH6UtoENAGIEPGrP9DLRtGCe7U/2c37S kiB9NxapeNOKrPKzRpSIXMg+/K/hLeOUQ9BZZFoti4V4R46894Ms3UVxFDPKZw8OrZ xE6Q+p+MjPdci7QvfHmKmQ0q8KGlVfBGgWe/3OqJiPVMMTTfLURyVnFUNcuef6Dvso LlaxseSOiMlFA== Received: from XCH16-07-11.nos.boeing.com (xch16-07-11.nos.boeing.com [144.115.66.113]) by clt-mbsout-01.mbs.boeing.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/8.15.2/UPSTREAM_MBSOUT) with ESMTPS id 074EMPF3003241 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 4 Aug 2020 10:22:25 -0400 Received: from XCH16-07-10.nos.boeing.com (144.115.66.112) by XCH16-07-11.nos.boeing.com (144.115.66.113) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.1.1979.3; Tue, 4 Aug 2020 07:22:23 -0700 Received: from XCH16-07-10.nos.boeing.com ([fe80::1522:f068:5766:53b5]) by XCH16-07-10.nos.boeing.com ([fe80::1522:f068:5766:53b5%2]) with mapi id 15.01.1979.003; Tue, 4 Aug 2020 07:22:23 -0700 From: "Templin (US), Fred L" To: Russ Housley , "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" CC: its Thread-Topic: [ipwave] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19.txt Thread-Index: AQHWamqrg4dG/6uCzUObKSyzL9xOgg== Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 14:22:23 +0000 Message-ID: <64b9cd5374934f0db305d8b224bb0563@boeing.com> References: <3361315c63ba45e9a835f12fe8778e25@boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <3361315c63ba45e9a835f12fe8778e25@boeing.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [137.137.12.6] x-tm-snts-smtp: F27180463B4AF3DB0F5C130CC497589B9E153C39E294E3B7C2553BABBB7CC5E22000:8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19.txt X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 14:22:47 -0000 I finally got the chance to review the -19, and I see that all of the comme= nts I posted on 7/13/2020 have been properly addressed. I have no further comments at this = time. Fred > -----Original Message----- > From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Templin (US), Fred L > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:59 AM > To: Russ Housley ; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong > Cc: its > Subject: Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-= 19.txt >=20 >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Russ Housley [mailto:housley@vigilsec.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 7:32 AM > > To: Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong ; Templin (US), Fred= L > > Cc: its > > Subject: Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networki= ng-19.txt > > > > Paul: > > > > Thanks for the update. > > > > Fred: > > > > Please confirm that your issues and concerns have been resolved. > [>] ACK; I will take a look. >=20 > Fred > > > > Russ > > > > > On Jul 29, 2020, at 7:56 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts di= rectories. > > > This draft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Envi= ronments WG of the IETF. > > > > > > Title : IPv6 Wireless Access in Vehicular Environmen= ts (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases > > > Author : Jaehoon Paul Jeong (editor) > > > Filename : draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19.txt > > > Pages : 39 > > > Date : 2020-07-29 > > > > > > Abstract: > > > This document discusses the problem statement and use cases of > > > IPv6-based vehicular networking for Intelligent Transportation > > > Systems (ITS). The main scenarios of vehicular communications are > > > vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I), and > > > vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications. First, this document > > > explains use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X networking. 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Tue, 04 Aug 2020 07:44:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3361315c63ba45e9a835f12fe8778e25@boeing.com> <64b9cd5374934f0db305d8b224bb0563@boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <64b9cd5374934f0db305d8b224bb0563@boeing.com> From: "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 23:43:46 +0900 Message-ID: To: "Templin (US), Fred L" Cc: Russ Housley , its Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000064725f05ac0e4a03" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19.txt X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 14:44:26 -0000 --00000000000064725f05ac0e4a03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Fred, Thanks for your review and confirmation. Best Regards, Paul On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:22 PM Templin (US), Fred L < Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote: > I finally got the chance to review the -19, and I see that all of the > comments I posted on > 7/13/2020 have been properly addressed. I have no further comments at this > time. > > Fred > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Templin (US), Fred > L > > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:59 AM > > To: Russ Housley ; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < > jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> > > Cc: its > > Subject: Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: > draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19.txt > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Russ Housley [mailto:housley@vigilsec.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 7:32 AM > > > To: Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong ; Templin (US), > Fred L > > > Cc: its > > > Subject: Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: > draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19.txt > > > > > > Paul: > > > > > > Thanks for the update. > > > > > > Fred: > > > > > > Please confirm that your issues and concerns have been resolved. > > [>] ACK; I will take a look. > > > > Fred > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 2020, at 7:56 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > > > This draft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Vehicular > Environments WG of the IETF. > > > > > > > > Title : IPv6 Wireless Access in Vehicular > Environments (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases > > > > Author : Jaehoon Paul Jeong (editor) > > > > Filename : draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19.txt > > > > Pages : 39 > > > > Date : 2020-07-29 > > > > > > > > Abstract: > > > > This document discusses the problem statement and use cases of > > > > IPv6-based vehicular networking for Intelligent Transportation > > > > Systems (ITS). The main scenarios of vehicular communications are > > > > vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I), and > > > > vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications. First, this document > > > > explains use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X networking. Next, for > > > > IPv6-based vehicular networks, it makes a gap analysis of current > > > > IPv6 protocols (e.g., IPv6 Neighbor Discovery, Mobility Management, > > > > and Security & Privacy), and then lists up requirements for the > > > > extensions of those IPv6 protocols for IPv6-based vehicular > > > > networking. > > > > > > > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/ > > > > > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19 > > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19 > > > > > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > > > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19 > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > > > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > its mailing list > > > > its@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > > > _______________________________________________ > > its mailing list > > its@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > -- =========================== Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Computer Science and Engineering Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php --00000000000064725f05ac0e4a03 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Fred,
Thanks for your review and confirmation.

Best Regards,
Paul


On Tu= e, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:22 PM Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote:
I finally got the chance to = review the -19, and I see that all of the comments I posted on
7/13/2020 have been properly addressed. I have no further comments at this = time.

Fred

> -----Original Message-----
> From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Templin (US), Fred L
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:59 AM
> To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com= >
> Cc: its <its@ietf= .org>
> Subject: Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networki= ng-19.txt
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Russ Housley [mailto:housley@vigilsec.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 7:32 AM
> > To: Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>; Templin (US), Fre= d L <Fred= .L.Templin@boeing.com>
> > Cc: its <its= @ietf.org>
> > Subject:=C2=A0 Re: [ipwave] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicul= ar-networking-19.txt
> >
> > Paul:
> >
> > Thanks for the update.
> >
> > Fred:
> >
> > Please confirm that your issues and concerns have been resolved.<= br> > [>] ACK; I will take a look.
>
> Fred
> >
> > Russ
> >
> > > On Jul 29, 2020, at 7:56 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-= Drafts directories.
> > > This draft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Vehic= ular Environments WG of the IETF.
> > >
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0: IPv6 Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments (IPWAVE): Pro= blem Statement and Use Cases
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Author=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 : Jaehoon Paul Jeong (editor)
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-ietf= -ipwave-vehicular-networking-19.txt
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: = 39
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : = 2020-07-29
> > >
> > > Abstract:
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document discusses the problem statement an= d use cases of
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0IPv6-based vehicular networking for Intelligent = Transportation
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0Systems (ITS).=C2=A0 The main scenarios of vehic= ular communications are
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to-infrastruct= ure (V2I), and
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications.=C2= =A0 First, this document
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0explains use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X netwo= rking.=C2=A0 Next, for
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0IPv6-based vehicular networks, it makes a gap an= alysis of current
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0IPv6 protocols (e.g., IPv6 Neighbor Discovery, M= obility Management,
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0and Security & Privacy), and then lists up r= equirements for the
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0extensions of those IPv6 protocols for IPv6-base= d vehicular
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0networking.
> > >
> > >
> > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > > https://datat= racker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/
> > >
> > > There are also htmlized versions available at:
> > > https://tools.ie= tf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19
> > > https:= //datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19
> > >
> > > A diff from the previous version is available at:
> > > https://= www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19 > > >
> > >
> > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the ti= me of submission
> > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.= org.
> > >
> > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > its mailing list
> > > its@ietf.o= rg
> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its
>
> _______________________________________________
> its mailing list
> its@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its


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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.= D.
Associate Professor
Department of Computer Science and Engineering=
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: +82-31-299-4957
Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com,=C2=A0pauljeong@skku.edu
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Date: = August 5, 2020 at 6:30:16 AM = EDT
To: = 108all@ietf.org

Thank you very much to the ~230 people who have filled in the = IETF 108 meeting survey as this data is crucial to helping us plan = future meetings.  We could still use another 70 or so responses and = so this is a final reminder to please help us by taking a few minutes to = complete the survey:

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--
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Hi Russ,

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I already did.
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Thanks!
Chris

On Thu, Aug 6, 202= 0 at 1:58 AM Russ Housley <housl= ey@vigilsec.com> wrote:
Please fill out the survey if you participated in I= ETF 108.


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Subject: [108all] Final reminder: = IETF 108 meeting survey
Date: A= ugust 5, 2020 at 6:30:16 AM EDT
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Thank you very much to the ~230 people who hav= e filled in the IETF 108 meeting survey as this data is crucial to helping = us plan future meetings.=C2=A0 We could still use another 70 or so response= s and so this is a final reminder to please help us by taking a few minutes= to complete the survey:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/T3S= L7JF

Thanks in advance

--
Jay Daley
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I observed that you prepared a write-up well. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/she= pherdwriteup/ Thanks. Best Regards, Paul On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:09 AM CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO < cjbc@it.uc3m.es> wrote: > Thanks Paul. It looks good now. > > Carlos > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 1:57 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < > jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Carlos, >> I have submitted the revision -19: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19 >> >> The tool for idnits is found: >> https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ >> >> The OMNI draft has the latest version of -27: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-omni-interface/ >> >> Thanks. >> >> Best Regards, >> Paul >> >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:35 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < >> jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Alex, >>> Thanks for your kind suggestions. >>> But I prefer to use the current structure of the XML file to save time. >>> >>> Carlos, >>> Could you share the URL to check the nits of the I-D, especially unused >>> references, before the submission of the revision? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Paul >>> >>> 2020=EB=85=84 7=EC=9B=94 29=EC=9D=BC (=EC=88=98) =EC=98=A4=ED=9B=84 6:2= 9, Alexandre Petrescu < >>> alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>=EB=8B=98=EC=9D=B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: >>> >>>> it is these two nits: >>>> > =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC6775' is defined on line 1566, but no >>>> explicit >>>> > reference was found in the text >>>> > >>>> > -- Unexpected draft version: The latest known version of >>>> > draft-templin-6man-omni-interface is -07, but you're referring >>>> to -27. >>>> >>>> For the first nit (rfc6775 "6lowpan ND") there are two possibilities: >>>> (1) remove the entire xml group starting with " >>> anchor=3D"RFC6775">" or (2) ask about how to talk about 6lowpan ND in >>>> vehicular networks. >>>> >>>> For my part, I think I heard at IETF talk about a demo using 6lowpan >>>> technology between cars stationed in a parking. >>>> >>>> For the second nit (omni interface versions -07 vs -27), there are so= me >>>> strange things with the pointers to the omni draft. >>>> >>>> In tools.ietf.org the most recent version of omni draft is -13 but >>>> there >>>> is a spectacular jump between -07 and -13 without intermediary version= s. >>>> There are diffs between -13 and -12 though. There is also a -27 >>>> version indeed at >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-templin-6man-omni-interface-27 >>>> There is no -28 version. >>>> >>>> For my part, when I write an xml I-D, I use a special way of referring >>>> to another I-D, instead of the typical used to refer to >>>> non-IETF documents. In the Informative section I use thi= s >>>> kind of text below: >>>> >>>> > >>> > include=3D" >>>> http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml3/reference.I-D.ietf-ipwave-v= ehicular-networking >>>> " >>>> > ?> >>>> >>>> Notice there is no version number written in the filename of the draft= . >>>> It is then the system that makes sure to add the right version numbe= r. >>>> >>>> Alex >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 29/07/2020 =C3=A0 11:06, CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO a =C3=A9crit : >>>> > Hi Paul, >>>> > >>>> > It still has some nits: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/= id/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-18.txt >>>> > >>>> > Thanks, >>>> > >>>> > Carlos >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:49 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Carlos, >>>> > I have posted the revision -18 that addresses the nits issues: >>>> > >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-18 >>>> > >>>> > Thanks. >>>> > >>>> > Best Regards, >>>> > Paul >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:17 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi Carlos, >>>> > I will include the dummy IANA Section and remove the unused >>>> > references in the revision today. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks. >>>> > >>>> > Best Regards, >>>> > Paul >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:34 PM CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi Paul, >>>> > >>>> > Thanks for the update. Can you please take a look at the >>>> > nits that idnits returns and solve the ones about unused >>>> > references (the rest I think do not really apply)? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/i= d/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-17.txt >>>> > >>>> > Thanks, >>>> > >>>> > Carlos >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:36 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong >>>> > > >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi Russ and Carlos, >>>> > I have posted the revision -17 having Fred's comment= s >>>> > during the WGLC. >>>> > >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-17 >>>> > >>>> > Thanks. >>>> > >>>> > Best Regards, >>>> > Paul >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:33 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul >>>> Jeong >>>> > >>> jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi Russ and Carlos, >>>> > I will reflect Fred's suggested text changes >>>> during >>>> > the WGLC. >>>> > I will post the revision by this Wednesday in ES= T. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks. >>>> > >>>> > Best Regards, >>>> > Paul >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:26 AM Russ Housley >>>> > >>> housley@vigilsec.com>> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Thanks, Fred.. >>>> > >>>> > Authors, when do you expect to post the next >>>> update? >>>> > >>>> > Russ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Templin (US= ), >>>> > Fred L >>> > > wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > Russ, I was expecting to see a new draft >>>> > version -17 posted that addresses my list >>>> > > comments from 7/13/2020 before the docume= nt >>>> > would be sent to the IESG. So, >>>> > > please let us ask the authors to post the >>>> -17 >>>> > and verify that the comments are >>>> > > addressed before sending to the IESG. >>>> > > >>>> > > Thanks - Fred >>>> > > >>>> > >> -----Original Message----- >>>> > >> From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org >>>> > ] On Behalf Of >>>> Russ >>>> > Housley >>>> > >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 6:57 AM >>>> > >> To: its >>> its@ietf.org>> >>>> > >> Subject: Re: [ipwave] WG Last Call for >>>> > draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-16 >>>> > >> >>>> > >> I did not see any objections to this >>>> > document being sent to the IESG. Carlos has >>>> > agree to do the shepherd write-up, and he >>>> will share >>>> > >> it later this week. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Russ >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >>> On Jul 12, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Russ >>>> Housley >>>> > >>> > > wrote: >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> This is the IPWAVE WG Last Call for "IP= v6 >>>> > Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments >>>> > (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases=E2= =80=9D >>>> > >> >>>> > . >>>> > Please review the document and send your >>>> > comments to the list by 26 July 2020. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> The datatracker page for the document i= s >>>> > >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networkin= g/ >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Thanks, >>>> > >>> Russ & Carlos >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >> its mailing list >>>> > >> its@ietf.org >>>> > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/it= s >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> > its mailing list >>>> > its@ietf.org >>>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>> > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >>>> > Associate Professor >>>> > Department of Computer Science and Engineering >>>> > Sungkyunkwan University >>>> > Office: +82-31-299-4957 >>>> > Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com >>>> > , >>>> pauljeong@skku.edu >>>> > >>>> > Personal Homepage: >>>> > http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>> > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >>>> > Associate Professor >>>> > Department of Computer Science and Engineering >>>> > Sungkyunkwan University >>>> > Office: +82-31-299-4957 >>>> > Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com >>>> > , pauljeong@skku.edu >>>> > >>>> > Personal Homepage: >>>> > http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>> > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >>>> > Associate Professor >>>> > Department of Computer Science and Engineering >>>> > Sungkyunkwan University >>>> > Office: +82-31-299-4957 >>>> > Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com >>> >, >>>> > pauljeong@skku.edu >>>> > Personal Homepage: >>>> > http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>> > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >>>> > Associate Professor >>>> > Department of Computer Science and Engineering >>>> > Sungkyunkwan University >>>> > Office: +82-31-299-4957 >>>> > Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com , >>>> > pauljeong@skku.edu >>>> > Personal Homepage: >>>> http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > its mailing list >>>> > its@ietf.org >>>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> its mailing list >>>> its@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D >> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >> Associate Professor >> Department of Computer Science and Engineering >> Sungkyunkwan University >> Office: +82-31-299-4957 >> Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu >> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >> >> > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Computer Science and Engineering Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php --0000000000005cb80f05ac6fd98b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Carlos,
Could you go forward with our IPWAVE PS dra= ft?

I observed that you prepared a write-up well.<= /div>=

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:09 AM CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO &l= t;cjbc@it.uc3m.es> wrote:
Thanks= Paul. It=C2=A0looks good now.

Carlos

On Wed, Jul 2= 9, 2020 at 1:57 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote:
Carlo= s,
I have submitted the revision -19:

The tool for idnits=C2=A0is found:

The OMNI draft = has the latest version of -27:
=
Thanks.

Best Regards,
Pau= l

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:35 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com= > wrote:
=
Hi Alex,
Thanks for your kind suggestion= s.
But I prefer to use the current structure of the = XML file to save time.

C= arlos,
Could you share the URL to check the nits of = the I-D, especially unused references, before the submission of the revisio= n?

Thanks.

Best Regards,
= Paul

2020=EB=85=84 7=EC=9B=94 29=EC=9D=BC (=EC=88=98) =EC=98=A4=ED=9B= =84 6:29, Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>=EB=8B=98=EC=9D= =B4 =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1:
it is these two nits:
>=C2=A0 =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC6775' is defined on line 15= 66, but no explicit
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 reference was found in the text
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0-- Unexpected draft version: The latest known version of <= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 draft-templin-6man-omni-interface is -07, but you&= #39;re referring to -27.

For the first nit (rfc6775 "6lowpan ND") there are two possibilit= ies:
(1) remove the entire xml group starting with " <reference
anchor=3D"RFC6775">" or (2) ask about how to talk about 6= lowpan ND in
vehicular networks.

For my part, I think I heard at IETF talk about a demo using 6lowpan
technology between cars stationed in a parking.

For the second nit (omni interface versions -07=C2=A0 vs -27), there are so= me
strange things with the pointers to the omni draft.

In tools.ietf.org the most recent version of omni draft is -13= but there
is a spectacular jump between -07 and -13 without intermediary versions. =C2=A0 There are diffs between -13 and -12 though.=C2=A0 There is also a -2= 7
version indeed at
https://tools.ietf.org/ht= ml/draft-templin-6man-omni-interface-27
There is no -28 version.

For my part, when I write an xml I-D, I use a special way of referring
to another I-D, instead of the typical <reference> used to refer to non-IETF documents.=C2=A0 In the Informative <references> section I u= se this
kind of text below:

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<?rfc
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0include=3D"http://xml2rfc.ietf.o= rg/public/rfc/bibxml3/reference.I-D.ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking&qu= ot;
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0?>

Notice there is no version number written in the filename of the draft.
=C2=A0 It is then the system that makes sure to add the right version numbe= r.

Alex


Le 29/07/2020 =C3=A0 11:06, CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:=
> Hi Paul,
>
> It still has some nits:
>
> https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3D= https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-18.t= xt
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carlos
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:49 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
> <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.c= om>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Carlos,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have posted the revision -18 that addresses the n= its issues:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-18
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Best Regards,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Paul
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:17 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Je= ong
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Carlos,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I will include the dummy IANA Section= and remove the unused
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0references in the revision today.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Best Regards,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Paul
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:34 PM CARLO= S JESUS BERNARDOS CANO
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<cjbc@it.uc3m.es <mailto:cjbc@it.= uc3m.es>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Paul,
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks for the update. = Can you please take a look at the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0nits that idnits return= s and solve the ones about unused
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0references (the rest I = think do not really apply)?
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/i= d/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-17.txt
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks,
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Carlos
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at= 3:36 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<jaehoon.paul@gm= ail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Russ a= nd Carlos,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have po= sted the revision -17 having Fred's comments
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0during th= e WGLC.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/html= /draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-17
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks. >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Best Rega= rds,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Paul
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Tue, J= ul 28, 2020 at 10:33 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<j= aehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>>=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0wrote: >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0Hi Russ and Carlos,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0I will reflect Fred's suggested text changes during
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0the WGLC.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0I will post the revision by this Wednesday in EST.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0Thanks.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0Best Regards,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0Paul
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:26 AM Russ Housley
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0<housley@vigilsec.com <mailto:housley@vigilsec.com&= gt;>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks, Fred..
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Authors, when do you expect to post the next update? >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Russ
>
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Templin (US),
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org<= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf O= f Russ
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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, The call for papers for the 2020 IEEE Vehicular Networking Conference (VNC = 2020) is now available. We appreciate disseminating this call for papers among your organization an= d forward it to other interested parties. ***************************************************************************= ****************************************************** IEEE VNC 2020 - CALL FOR PAPERS ***************************************************************************= ******* The 2020 IEEE Vehicular Networking Conference (VNC 2020) December 16=9618, 2020 | Virtual Conference https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.ieee-vnc.org__;!!KGKeukY!maPg-9R9kDa= IO9cT8ScGGB8rVCUDdagBz5YC7Odw8nJIlj59Zwde7erDI6TQtE0JYA$ ***************************************************************************= ******* ************ The Conference ************ The IEEE Vehicular Networking Conference (VNC) is the premiere conference o= n vehicular networks and applications. It brings together researchers, prof= essionals, and practitioners to share the latest results and to brainstorm = the next phases of exploration in the foundations, technologies, and applic= ations of vehicular communication networks. The 2020 VNC will be held virtu= ally between December 16-18, 2020. ************ Important Dates ************ Full/short paper submission deadline: September 18, 2020, 23:59 AOE (Anywhe= re on Earth, UTC-12) Demo/Poster paper Submission Deadline: September 30, 2020, 23:59 AOE (Anywh= ere on Earth, UTC-12) Acceptance notification: November 6, 2020 Camera ready paper due: November 20, 2020 Presentation videos due: December 4, 2020 Conference: December 16-18, 2020 ************ Topics of Interest ************ Connectivity * 5G technologies for connected vehicles * Emerging V2X communication technologies, including dynamic spectr= um sharing, mmWave, massive MIMO, beamforming, and vehicular visible light = communications (VLC) * Networking, transport and QoS management for vehicular networks * In-vehicle communication and networking systems * Radio for vehicular networks: channel measurements, propagation m= odels, antenna design, etc Architecture and System Design * Heterogeneous vehicular networking (e.g., multi-radio, multi-chan= nel, multi-application, multi-technology) * Architectures and system designs for connected, automated driving * Edge computing and cloud * Security, privacy, liability, and dependability of vehicular netw= orks * Integration of V2C with on-board systems and networks Tools & Methods * Hardware and software platforms for the simulation, emulation, pr= ototyping, measurement, and/or real-world deployment of vehicular networks = and applications * Field measurements and/or real-world deployments of vehicular net= works and applications * Modeling, design, and analysis of vehicular networks and applicat= ions Connected & Automated Driving and Other Applications * Cooperative perception and cooperative driving * Innovative vehicular network applications and their communication= requirements * Vulnerable road user protection * Vehicular networks and IoT integration * Impact assessments of vehicular networks on transportation ************ Manuscript submissions ************ The submitted papers must be written in English and be formatted in the sta= ndard IEEE two-column format and with a font size no less than 10-point. Th= e mandatory IEEE template in Microsoft Word and LaTeX format can be found a= t the IEEE templates page. Only Adobe PDF files will be accepted for the re= view process. All submissions must be made electronically through EDAS. Det= ails will be available at the conference webpage https://urldefense.com/v3/= __http://www.ieee-vnc.org/__;!!KGKeukY!maPg-9R9kDaIO9cT8ScGGB8rVCUDdagBz5YC= 7Odw8nJIlj59Zwde7erDI6SoHwLzjQ$ soon. The conference will consider four categories of submissions: =95 Full papers should describe novel research contributions and ar= e limited in length to eight (8) printed pages including figures, tables, a= nd references. Papers exceeding 8 pages will be declined automatically and = will not be reviewed. =95 Short papers should be more visionary in nature and may report = on work-in-progress without fully finished results. They are meant to prese= nt novel perspectives, so as to foster discussions about innovative directi= ons and new points of view. They are limited to at most four (4) pages incl= uding figures, tables, and references, but might in many cases be even shor= ter. Accepted short papers will be included in the proceedings and will be = given (a shorter) time for oral presentation at the conference. =95 Posters are especially suited for presenting controversial rese= arch directions that may generate discussion, or promising ideas not yet fu= lly validated through complete extensive evaluation. =95 Demonstration (demo) papers are suited for researchers to showc= ase their latest prototypes with media, models, or live demonstrations. The= demo session will be co-located with the poster session to ensure maximum = visibility and a close interaction with the conference audience. Poster/demo papers should be 2-page papers following standard IEEE 2-column= format using 10-point font. All paper submissions must be written in Engli= sh. The title of the paper should begin with either "Poster:" or "Demo:=94. ************ Conference Chairs ************ Frank Kargl, Ulm University, Germany, General Co-chair Onur Altintas, Toyota Motor North America R&D, USA, General Co-chair Ana Aguiar, University of Porto, Portugal, TPC Co-chair Andr=E9 Weimerkirch, Lear Corporation, USA, TPC Co-chair ***************************************************************************= ****************************************************** --_000_SN2PR01MB20803AEACAB230A83E77DF6D83400SN2PR01MB2080prod_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings,

The call for papers for the 2020 IEEE Vehicular Networking Conference (VNC 202= 0) is now available.
We appreciate disseminating this call for papers among your organization and = forward it to other interested parties.

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IEEE VNC 2020 - CALL FOR PAPERS
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The 2020 IEEE Vehicular Networking Conference (VNC 2020)
December 16=9618, 2020 | Virtual Conference
https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.ie= ee-vnc.org__;!!KGKeukY!maPg-9R9kDaIO9cT8ScGGB8rVCUDdagBz5YC7Odw8nJIlj59Zwde= 7erDI6TQtE0JYA$
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The Conference
************
The IEEE Vehicular Networking Conference (VNC) is the premiere conference on v= ehicular networks and applications. It brings together researchers, profess= ionals, and practitioners to share the latest results and to brainstorm the= next phases of exploration in the foundations, technologies, and applications of vehicular communication net= works. The 2020 VNC will be held virtually between December 16-18, 2020.

************
Important Dates
************
Full/short paper submission deadline: September 18, 2020, 23:59 AOE (Anywhere on Eart= h, UTC-12)
Demo/Poster paper Submission Deadline: September 30, 2020, 23:59 AOE (Anywhere on Eart= h, UTC-12)
Acceptance notification: November 6, 2020
Camera ready paper due: November 20, 2020
Presentation videos due: December 4, 2020
Conference: December 16-18, 2020

************
Topics of Interest
************
Connectivity

        * 5G technologies for connected vehicles
        * Emerging V2X communication technologies, including dynamic spectrum shar= ing, mmWave, massive MIMO, beamforming, and vehicular visible light communi= cations (VLC)
        * Networking, transport and QoS management for vehicular networks         * In-vehicle communication and networking systems
        * Radio for vehicular networks: channel measurements, propagation models, = antenna design, etc

 Architecture and System Design

        * Heterogeneous vehicular networking (e.g., multi-radio, multi-channel, mu= lti-application, multi-technology)
        * Architectures and system designs for connected, automated driving=
        * Edge computing and cloud
        * Security, privacy, liability, and dependability of vehicular networks
        * Integration of V2C with on-board systems and networks

Tools & Methods

        * Hardware and software platforms for the simulation, emulation, prototypi= ng, measurement, and/or real-world deployment of vehicular networks and app= lications
        * Field measurements and/or real-world deployments of vehicular networks a= nd applications
        * Modeling, design, and analysis of vehicular networks and applications

Connected & Automated Driving and Other Applications

        * Cooperative perception and cooperative driving
        * Innovative vehicular network applications and their communication requir= ements
        * Vulnerable road user protection
        * Vehicular networks and IoT integration
        * Impact assessments of vehicular networks on transportation

************
Manuscript submissions
************
The submitted papers must be written in English and be formatted in the standa= rd IEEE two-column format and with a font size no less than 10-point. The m= andatory IEEE template in Microsoft Word and LaTeX format can be found at t= he IEEE templates page. Only Adobe PDF files will be accepted for the review process. All submissions must be= made electronically through EDAS. Details will be available at the confere= nce webpage https= ://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.ieee-vnc.org/__;!!KGKeukY!maPg-9R9kDaIO9c= T8ScGGB8rVCUDdagBz5YC7Odw8nJIlj59Zwde7erDI6SoHwLzjQ$  soon.

The conference will consider four categories of submissions:
        =95 Full papers should describe novel research contributions and are limit= ed in length to eight (8) printed pages including figures, tables, and refe= rences. Papers exceeding 8 pages will be declined automatically and will no= t be reviewed.
        =95 Short papers should be more visionary in nature and may report on work= -in-progress without fully finished results. They are meant to present nove= l perspectives, so as to foster discussions about innovative directions and= new points of view. They are limited to at most four (4) pages including figures, tables, and references, but m= ight in many cases be even shorter. Accepted short papers will be included = in the proceedings and will be given (a shorter) time for oral presentation= at the conference.
        =95 Posters are especially suited for presenting controversial research di= rections that may generate discussion, or promising ideas not yet fully val= idated through complete extensive evaluation.
        =95 Demonstration (demo) papers are suited for researchers to showcase the= ir latest prototypes with media, models, or live demonstrations. The demo s= ession will be co-located with the poster session to ensure maximum visibil= ity and a close interaction with the conference audience.
Poster/demo papers should be 2-page papers following standard IEEE 2-column format usi= ng 10-point font. All paper submissions must be written in English. The tit= le of the paper should begin with either "Poster:" or "Demo:= =94.

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Conference Chairs
************
Frank Kargl, Ulm University, Germany, General Co-chair
Onur Altintas, Toyota Motor North America R&D, USA, General Co-chair=
Ana Aguiar, University of Porto, Portugal, TPC Co-chair
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--_000_SN2PR01MB20803AEACAB230A83E77DF6D83400SN2PR01MB2080prod_-- From nobody Sun Aug 16 12:06:17 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8612D3A0A50 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 12:06:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.277 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.277 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.949, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k32qEs89s_9H for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 12:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cirse-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (cirse-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BC9B3A0A4F for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 12:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by cirse-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 07GJ67Xe030607; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 21:06:08 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id E55A4202DB7; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 21:06:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.12]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C955E202AC5; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 21:06:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.11.240.21] ([10.11.240.21]) by muguet1-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 07GJ65iP014493; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 21:06:05 +0200 To: "Ozkaptan, Ceyhun Deniz" References: Cc: its@ietf.org From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <4713fc61-4c26-70e0-59db-c08062a6ef35@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 21:06:04 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F2B351131B02DB037DEEB4A9" Content-Language: fr Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] 2020 IEEE Vehicular Networking Conference (VNC) X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:06:16 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F2B351131B02DB037DEEB4A9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Please add a topic on IP-based vehicular networks, thank you. Alex Le 14/08/2020 à 17:44, Ozkaptan, Ceyhun Deniz a écrit : > Greetings, > > The call for papers for the 2020 IEEE Vehicular Networking Conference > (VNC 2020) is now available. > We appreciate disseminating this call for papers among your > organization and forward it to other interested parties. > > ********************************************************************************************************************************* > IEEE VNC 2020 - CALL FOR PAPERS > ********************************************************************************** > The 2020 IEEE Vehicular Networking Conference (VNC 2020) > December 16–18, 2020 | Virtual Conference > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.ieee-vnc.org__;!!KGKeukY!maPg-9R9kDaIO9cT8ScGGB8rVCUDdagBz5YC7Odw8nJIlj59Zwde7erDI6TQtE0JYA$ > ********************************************************************************** > ************ > The Conference > ************ > The IEEE Vehicular Networking Conference (VNC) is the premiere > conference on vehicular networks and applications. It brings together > researchers, professionals, and practitioners to share the latest > results and to brainstorm the next phases of exploration in the > foundations, technologies, and applications of vehicular communication > networks. The 2020 VNC will be held virtually between December 16-18, > 2020. > > ************ > Important Dates > ************ > Full/short paper submission deadline: September 18, 2020, 23:59 AOE > (Anywhere on Earth, UTC-12) > Demo/Poster paper Submission Deadline: September 30, 2020, 23:59 AOE > (Anywhere on Earth, UTC-12) > Acceptance notification: November 6, 2020 > Camera ready paper due: November 20, 2020 > Presentation videos due: December 4, 2020 > Conference: December 16-18, 2020 > > ************ > Topics of Interest > ************ > Connectivity > >         * 5G technologies for connected vehicles >         * Emerging V2X communication technologies, including dynamic > spectrum sharing, mmWave, massive MIMO, beamforming, and vehicular > visible light communications (VLC) >         * Networking, transport and QoS management for vehicular networks >         * In-vehicle communication and networking systems >         * Radio for vehicular networks: channel measurements, > propagation models, antenna design, etc > >  Architecture and System Design > >         * Heterogeneous vehicular networking (e.g., multi-radio, > multi-channel, multi-application, multi-technology) >         * Architectures and system designs for connected, automated > driving >         * Edge computing and cloud >         * Security, privacy, liability, and dependability of vehicular > networks >         * Integration of V2C with on-board systems and networks > > Tools & Methods > >         * Hardware and software platforms for the simulation, > emulation, prototyping, measurement, and/or real-world deployment of > vehicular networks and applications >         * Field measurements and/or real-world deployments of > vehicular networks and applications >         * Modeling, design, and analysis of vehicular networks and > applications > > Connected & Automated Driving and Other Applications > >         * Cooperative perception and cooperative driving >         * Innovative vehicular network applications and their > communication requirements >         * Vulnerable road user protection >         * Vehicular networks and IoT integration >         * Impact assessments of vehicular networks on transportation > > ************ > Manuscript submissions > ************ > The submitted papers must be written in English and be formatted in > the standard IEEE two-column format and with a font size no less than > 10-point. The mandatory IEEE template in Microsoft Word and LaTeX > format can be found at the IEEE templates page. Only Adobe PDF files > will be accepted for the review process. All submissions must be made > electronically through EDAS. Details will be available at the > conference > webpagehttps://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.ieee-vnc.org/__;!!KGKeukY!maPg-9R9kDaIO9cT8ScGGB8rVCUDdagBz5YC7Odw8nJIlj59Zwde7erDI6SoHwLzjQ$  > soon. > > The conference will consider four categories of submissions: >         • Full papers should describe novel research contributions and > are limited in length to eight (8) printed pages including figures, > tables, and references. Papers exceeding 8 pages will be declined > automatically and will not be reviewed. >         • Short papers should be more visionary in nature and may > report on work-in-progress without fully finished results. They are > meant to present novel perspectives, so as to foster discussions about > innovative directions and new points of view. They are limited to at > most four (4) pages including figures, tables, and references, but > might in many cases be even shorter. Accepted short papers will be > included in the proceedings and will be given (a shorter) time for > oral presentation at the conference. >         • Posters are especially suited for presenting controversial > research directions that may generate discussion, or promising ideas > not yet fully validated through complete extensive evaluation. >         • Demonstration (demo) papers are suited for researchers to > showcase their latest prototypes with media, models, or live > demonstrations. The demo session will be co-located with the poster > session to ensure maximum visibility and a close interaction with the > conference audience. > Poster/demo papers should be 2-page papers following standard IEEE > 2-column format using 10-point font. All paper submissions must be > written in English. The title of the paper should begin with either > "Poster:" or "Demo:”. > > ************ > Conference Chairs > ************ > Frank Kargl, Ulm University, Germany, General Co-chair > Onur Altintas, Toyota Motor North America R&D, USA, General Co-chair > Ana Aguiar, University of Porto, Portugal, TPC Co-chair > André Weimerkirch, Lear Corporation, USA, TPC Co-chair > ********************************************************************************************************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its --------------F2B351131B02DB037DEEB4A9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Please add a topic on IP-based vehicular networks, thank you.


Alex


Le 14/08/2020 à 17:44, Ozkaptan, Ceyhun Deniz a écrit :
Greetings,

The call for papers for the 2020 IEEE Vehicular Networking Conference (VNC 2020) is now available.
We appreciate disseminating this call for papers among your organization and forward it to other interested parties.

*********************************************************************************************************************************
IEEE VNC 2020 - CALL FOR PAPERS
**********************************************************************************
The 2020 IEEE Vehicular Networking Conference (VNC 2020)
December 16–18, 2020 | Virtual Conference
https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.ieee-vnc.org__;!!KGKeukY!maPg-9R9kDaIO9cT8ScGGB8rVCUDdagBz5YC7Odw8nJIlj59Zwde7erDI6TQtE0JYA$
**********************************************************************************
************
The Conference
************
The IEEE Vehicular Networking Conference (VNC) is the premiere conference on vehicular networks and applications. It brings together researchers, professionals, and practitioners to share the latest results and to brainstorm the next phases of exploration in the foundations, technologies, and applications of vehicular communication networks. The 2020 VNC will be held virtually between December 16-18, 2020.

************
Important Dates
************
Full/short paper submission deadline: September 18, 2020, 23:59 AOE (Anywhere on Earth, UTC-12)
Demo/Poster paper Submission Deadline: September 30, 2020, 23:59 AOE (Anywhere on Earth, UTC-12)
Acceptance notification: November 6, 2020
Camera ready paper due: November 20, 2020
Presentation videos due: December 4, 2020
Conference: December 16-18, 2020

************
Topics of Interest
************
Connectivity

        * 5G technologies for connected vehicles
        * Emerging V2X communication technologies, including dynamic spectrum sharing, mmWave, massive MIMO, beamforming, and vehicular visible light communications (VLC)
        * Networking, transport and QoS management for vehicular networks
        * In-vehicle communication and networking systems
        * Radio for vehicular networks: channel measurements, propagation models, antenna design, etc

 Architecture and System Design

        * Heterogeneous vehicular networking (e.g., multi-radio, multi-channel, multi-application, multi-technology)
        * Architectures and system designs for connected, automated driving
        * Edge computing and cloud
        * Security, privacy, liability, and dependability of vehicular networks
        * Integration of V2C with on-board systems and networks

Tools & Methods

        * Hardware and software platforms for the simulation, emulation, prototyping, measurement, and/or real-world deployment of vehicular networks and applications
        * Field measurements and/or real-world deployments of vehicular networks and applications
        * Modeling, design, and analysis of vehicular networks and applications

Connected & Automated Driving and Other Applications

        * Cooperative perception and cooperative driving
        * Innovative vehicular network applications and their communication requirements
        * Vulnerable road user protection
        * Vehicular networks and IoT integration
        * Impact assessments of vehicular networks on transportation

************
Manuscript submissions
************
The submitted papers must be written in English and be formatted in the standard IEEE two-column format and with a font size no less than 10-point. The mandatory IEEE template in Microsoft Word and LaTeX format can be found at the IEEE templates page. Only Adobe PDF files will be accepted for the review process. All submissions must be made electronically through EDAS. Details will be available at the conference webpage https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.ieee-vnc.org/__;!!KGKeukY!maPg-9R9kDaIO9cT8ScGGB8rVCUDdagBz5YC7Odw8nJIlj59Zwde7erDI6SoHwLzjQ$  soon.

The conference will consider four categories of submissions:
        • Full papers should describe novel research contributions and are limited in length to eight (8) printed pages including figures, tables, and references. Papers exceeding 8 pages will be declined automatically and will not be reviewed.
        • Short papers should be more visionary in nature and may report on work-in-progress without fully finished results. They are meant to present novel perspectives, so as to foster discussions about innovative directions and new points of view. They are limited to at most four (4) pages including figures, tables, and references, but might in many cases be even shorter. Accepted short papers will be included in the proceedings and will be given (a shorter) time for oral presentation at the conference.
        • Posters are especially suited for presenting controversial research directions that may generate discussion, or promising ideas not yet fully validated through complete extensive evaluation.
        • Demonstration (demo) papers are suited for researchers to showcase their latest prototypes with media, models, or live demonstrations. The demo session will be co-located with the poster session to ensure maximum visibility and a close interaction with the conference audience.
Poster/demo papers should be 2-page papers following standard IEEE 2-column format using 10-point font. All paper submissions must be written in English. The title of the paper should begin with either "Poster:" or "Demo:”.

************
Conference Chairs
************
Frank Kargl, Ulm University, Germany, General Co-chair
Onur Altintas, Toyota Motor North America R&D, USA, General Co-chair
Ana Aguiar, University of Porto, Portugal, TPC Co-chair
André Weimerkirch, Lear Corporation, USA, TPC Co-chair
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its mailing list
its@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its
--------------F2B351131B02DB037DEEB4A9-- From nobody Tue Aug 18 06:32:49 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9253A0A86 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 06:32:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.278 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.278 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.949, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mJtJ0EkIux_Q for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 06:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxalide-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (oxalide-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.168.224.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B77AF3A0A2E for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 06:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 07IDWcwf021691 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:32:38 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 916A020382F for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:32:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.12]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DA820382B for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:32:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.8.35.150] (is154594.intra.cea.fr [10.8.35.150]) by muguet1-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 07IDWcP4019316 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:32:38 +0200 To: IPWAVE WG References: <155169869045.5118.3508360720339540639@ietfa.amsl.com> <3e716b4b-8236-0488-309c-7cd3a54db7b5@gmail.com> <66e7c810-45a5-5244-59dc-4b764b6fb346@gmail.com> <1a6599ee-88f9-42d9-a208-918ba6711612@gmail.com> <11645738-6f95-82e5-48f1-ebc3ce54423e@gmail.com> <0ae10089-4b1a-f85c-1a3d-15e712cb7547@gmail.com> <084449fd-2693-0cfb-6589-0cf67cf9ffe6@gmail.com> <5801f10e-6b38-2375-2c9b-83027df547b0@gmail.com> From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <524e66fc-7223-e276-6942-58b494108d48@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 15:32:38 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] AH with NIST quantum resistant new algo, a possibility X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 13:32:48 -0000 Hi, I thought the other day about this possibility. In order to support more deployment of IPv6-over-OCB in vehicular environments: make it better than BSM security by speculating on the future. We would speculate on the successful selection of a NIST quantum resistant candidate algorithm, implement it open source in linux, put its output in the Authentication Header of IPv6, and write a draft in the process. If one does not like to speculate, then one could also take the few candidates and implement them all for AH, so the end user has a choice. Thoughts? Alex Le 16/04/2019 à 12:33, William Whyte a écrit : > But none of that explains why the BSM type is in scope for this > group. That seems like a different work item. > > - sent from my phone > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 12:28 PM Alexandre Petrescu > > > wrote: > > > > Le 16/04/2019 à 12:12, William Whyte a écrit : >> That's a decision made further up the stack. It's not part of the > scope >> of this group. >> >> For what it's worth: In the US, the BSM-based applications are > based on >> SAE J2945/1 and SAE J2735-2016 and sent over WSMP. In Europe, >> cooperative awareness using CAM is based on EN 302 637-2 and sent > over >> BTP. But even if BSMs were sent over IP, the version of BSM used > would >> be out of scope for this group. That's how layered systems work. > > I agree layered systems are good to focus, and interfaces. > > I think that an overarching CAM-BSM message put on UDP/IP specified > at IETF may get benefits beyond just layering and interfaces. > > Such a spec would tell, for example, that in worst case the cars > MUST accept both EtherTypes (dont drop either), by the principle of > being conservative on what to accept. And in best case expect an > IPv6 EtherType that carrying an IP datagram carrying an overarching > BSM-CAM. > > That could probably improve safety in some situations. > > It is also true that that is a standpoint of IP packets being the > same all over the world, whereas cars are not really the same. E.g. > in America the cars are allowed to have both left and right yellow > lights turned on permanently, but not in other parts of the world. > > So I am really not sure whether an idea of an overarching CAM-BSM > over IP can ever fly, even though I like it. > > Alex > >> >> William >> >> - sent from my phone >> >> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 11:45 AM Alexandre Petrescu >> > >> wrote: >> >> Which network/transport do BSMs use? >> >> Alex >> >> Le 16/04/2019 à 11:40, William Whyte a écrit : >>> I don't fully understand why IPWAVE, which is about network / >> transport >>> protocols, needs to have an opinion about what form of BSM > to use. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> William >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:58 AM Alexandre Petrescu >>> >> > >> >> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sri, >>> >>> Thank you very much for the email. >>> >>> I would like to take this opportunity to discuss > publicly a >> particular >>> topic in your email, that we already touched upon in > private >> a few >>> months ago. >>> >>> I purposefully keep the other ideas of you out of this > email, >> but I do >>> agree with very many of them. >>> >>> Le 16/04/2019 à 05:11, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) a écrit : [...] >>>> From the point of view of vehicular safety, its about >> exchange of >>>> BSM (Basic Safety Messages) between vehicles as per > SAEJ735 >>>> standard. >>> >>> Sri, but there are at least three versions of BSM. >>> >>> Which BSM do you mean? >>> >>> Why SAE and not ISO? Both have 'International' in > their names. >>> >>> Why SAE 2016 and not SAE 2009? >>> >>> - SAEJ2735 version 2009 (free access), (google hits "SAE J2735") >>> - SAEJ2735 version 2016 (paid access, cca 100 USD), (google hits >>> "SAE J2735") - and the ISO/CEN/ETSI versions (free access): >>> https://www.tc278.eu/cits >>> https://standards.iso.org/iso/ts/19091/addgrp_c >>> >>> (remark I dont mention ETSI CAM, which is ITS safety > in Europe). >>> >>> The three seem to be different in contents, to a few > people. >> Myself I >>> identified the first and second to be distinct. >>> >>> Ideally, safety would be just one standard, right? > Something >> like a >>> combination of all BSM versions with the CAM version > running on a >>> transport that is common to all. >>> >>> A safe car would need to be able to understand all > these CAM >> and BSM >>> versions; if it misses just one because of some syntax > error, >> well, >>> safety would be at stake. >>> >>>> [...] and for very good reason IEEE WAVE standards > did not >> bother to >>>> require IPv6 transport for carrying these messages. >>> >>> I doubt that reason. >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> _______________________________________________ its mailing list >>> its@ietf.org > >> >> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> >>> I may have sent this email out of office hours. I never > expect a >>> response outside yours. >> >