From zhangdacheng@huawei.com Wed Jan 11 19:04:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: karp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: karp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F1311E80C2 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:04:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.819 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.819 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.780, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CjeqbI8Tq0T9 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:04:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga04-in.huawei.com (szxga04-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.67]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6415511E80BD for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (szxga04-in [172.24.2.12]) by szxga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LXO00H610J1O3@szxga04-in.huawei.com> for karp@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:04:13 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxrg01-dlp.huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LXO00H7Z0IQ4Y@szxga04-in.huawei.com> for karp@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:04:13 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxeml203-edg.china.huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.1.9-GA) with ESMTP id AGJ78736; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:04:02 +0800 Received: from SZXEML419-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.158) by szxeml203-edg.china.huawei.com (172.24.2.55) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:03:48 +0800 Received: from SZXEML528-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.248]) by szxeml419-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.158]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:03:47 +0800 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 03:03:46 +0000 From: "Dacheng Zhang(Dacheng)" X-Originating-IP: [10.108.4.76] To: "karp@ietf.org" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-language: zh-CN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Thread-topic: New Version Notification for draft-hartman-karp-mrkmp-03.txt Thread-index: AQHM0Nau+A73Nls9VUGfAjHiOIm7CpYIC7zQ X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Subject: [karp] fwd: New Version Notification for draft-hartman-karp-mrkmp-03.txt X-BeenThere: karp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for key management for routing and transport protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 03:04:18 -0000 >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-hartman-karp-mrkmp-03.txt has been successfully >> submitted by Dacheng Zhang and posted to the IETF repository. >> >> Filename: draft-hartman-karp-mrkmp >> Revision: 03 >> Title: Multicast Router Key Management Protocol (MaRK) >> Creation date: 2012-01-12 >> WG ID: Individual Submission >> Number of pages: 27 >> >> Abstract: >> Several routing protocols engage in one-to-many communication. In >> order to authenticate these communications using symmetric >> cryptography, a group key needs to be established. This >> specification defines a group protocol for establishing and managing >> such keys. >> >> >> >> >> >> The IETF Secretariat From manav.bhatia@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Jan 25 03:34:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: karp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: karp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFAD21F85DF for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:34:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lSnxpCTpCbd1 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:34:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihemail1.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [135.245.0.33]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1EF21F8598 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from inbansmailrelay1.in.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-250-11-31.lucent.com [135.250.11.31]) by ihemail1.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id q0PBYJ1k004019 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:34:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from INBANSXCHHUB01.in.alcatel-lucent.com (inbansxchhub01.in.alcatel-lucent.com [135.250.12.32]) by inbansmailrelay1.in.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id q0PBYJth010630 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:04:19 +0530 Received: from INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.250.12.38]) by INBANSXCHHUB01.in.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.250.12.32]) with mapi; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:04:19 +0530 From: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" To: "karp@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:04:17 +0530 Thread-Topic: BFD Gap Analysis Thread-Index: AczbVUXPhtGMc9+DTDGIZwAjGBAgbw== Message-ID: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D029FDC87@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.33 Subject: [karp] BFD Gap Analysis X-BeenThere: karp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for key management for routing and transport protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:34:23 -0000 Hi, Many many moons ago Dacheng and I had written a short draft doing BFD gap a= nalysis as part of the KARP Phase 1. The draft was briefly discussed in the= BFD WG and this version incorporates the comments we received there + some= boiler plate changes. http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-bhatia-zhang-karp-bfd-analysis-02.txt Comments on this version are welcome! Cheers, Manav= From mjethanandani@gmail.com Wed Jan 25 12:17:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: karp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: karp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819BD11E808F for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:17:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n9cYI-WNbSpr for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:17:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39CB11E808A for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by pbbb11 with SMTP id b11so89115pbb.31 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:16:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=tMcvIkLPGyQLdX88SdHqgSf11hg3NFVYWmkWNHgNb44=; b=IGPE2XtV8dQRpfPEtRsvfF0YTiR4FRcJQIzhLffi4HEv6eigv45rjMyRurnXavDD3d zI3KAQzV8W4YiWQm/zYpGyYciHjnOlvE53VpWmcAvzikziGLfSc2U7cU3ieiMchywphW yQoMQ4aBBQ7A5b0OTstPlrifOXH30vZBD97wU= Received: by 10.68.200.65 with SMTP id jq1mr1457561pbc.54.1327522619626; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.123] (c-24-6-173-225.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [24.6.173.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a5sm4907600pbh.15.2012.01.25.12.16.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:16:58 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-53--824419255 From: Mahesh Jethanandani In-Reply-To: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D029FDC87@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:16:55 -0800 Message-Id: <9057F3D6-6F97-46E8-AC9B-E5481CECA955@gmail.com> References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D029FDC87@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> To: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: "karp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [karp] BFD Gap Analysis X-BeenThere: karp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for key management for routing and transport protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 20:17:00 -0000 --Apple-Mail-53--824419255 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Manav, Was there a plan to propose mechanisms to address the issues? I did not = see them in the draft. > The remainder of this document explains the details of how these > requirements fail to be met and proposes mechanisms for addressing > them. On Jan 25, 2012, at 3:34 AM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Many many moons ago Dacheng and I had written a short draft doing BFD = gap analysis as part of the KARP Phase 1. The draft was briefly = discussed in the BFD WG and this version incorporates the comments we = received there + some boiler plate changes. >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-bhatia-zhang-karp-bfd-analysis-02.txt >=20 > Comments on this version are welcome! >=20 > Cheers, Manav > _______________________________________________ > karp mailing list > karp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/karp --Apple-Mail-53--824419255 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Manav,

Was there a plan to propose mechanisms to address the issues? I did not see them in the draft.

The remainder of this document explains the details of how these
   requirements fail to be met and proposes mechanisms for addressing
   them.

On Jan 25, 2012, at 3:34 AM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote:

Hi,

Many many moons ago Dacheng and I had written a short draft doing BFD gap analysis as part of the KARP Phase 1. The draft was briefly discussed in the BFD WG and this version incorporates the comments we received there + some boiler plate changes.

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-bhatia-zhang-karp-bfd-analysis-02.txt

Comments on this version are welcome!

Cheers, Manav
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--Apple-Mail-53--824419255-- From manav.bhatia@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Jan 25 15:07:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: karp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: karp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AB45E8003 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:07:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.63 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.63 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D6ApFiMK0F2d for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:07:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihemail4.lucent.com (ihemail4.lucent.com [135.245.0.39]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD9B5E8002 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:07:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from inbansmailrelay1.in.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-250-11-31.lucent.com [135.250.11.31]) by ihemail4.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id q0PN7ATK029266 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:07:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from INBANSXCHHUB01.in.alcatel-lucent.com (inbansxchhub01.in.alcatel-lucent.com [135.250.12.32]) by inbansmailrelay1.in.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id q0PN79jO005427 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 26 Jan 2012 04:37:09 +0530 Received: from INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.250.12.38]) by INBANSXCHHUB01.in.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.250.12.32]) with mapi; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 04:37:09 +0530 From: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" To: Mahesh Jethanandani Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 04:37:09 +0530 Thread-Topic: [karp] BFD Gap Analysis Thread-Index: AczbnkyEy8UZPvyIT7K4e0qun6/hIQAF0kVw Message-ID: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D029FDD25@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D029FDC87@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <9057F3D6-6F97-46E8-AC9B-E5481CECA955@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9057F3D6-6F97-46E8-AC9B-E5481CECA955@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D029FDD25INBANSXCHMBSA_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.39 Cc: "karp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [karp] BFD Gap Analysis X-BeenThere: karp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for key management for routing and transport protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:07:19 -0000 --_000_7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D029FDD25INBANSXCHMBSA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mahesh, Good Catch. Initially the plan was to suggest mechanisms to fix the gaps found, but the= n we left that out as we weren't sure if that was in scope for a gaps analy= sis document. We should either remove this sentence or add a short section = briefly explaining what can be done to fix the gaps found. We had left this= section since the fixing part should be done in the BFD WG and this is a K= ARP document. Cheers, Manav ________________________________ From: Mahesh Jethanandani [mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:47 AM To: Bhatia, Manav (Manav) Cc: karp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [karp] BFD Gap Analysis Manav, Was there a plan to propose mechanisms to address the issues? I did not see= them in the draft. The remainder of this document explains the details of how these requirements fail to be met and proposes mechanisms for addressing them. On Jan 25, 2012, at 3:34 AM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: Hi, Many many moons ago Dacheng and I had written a short draft doing BFD gap a= nalysis as part of the KARP Phase 1. The draft was briefly discussed in the= BFD WG and this version incorporates the comments we received there + some= boiler plate changes. http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-bhatia-zhang-karp-bfd-analysis-02.txt Comments on this version are welcome! Cheers, Manav _______________________________________________ karp mailing list karp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/karp --_000_7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D029FDD25INBANSXCHMBSA_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mahesh,
 
Good Catch.
 
Initially the plan was to suggest mechanisms to fi= x the=20 gaps found, but then we left that out as we weren't sure if that = was=20 in scope for a gaps analysis document. We should either remove this sentenc= e or=20 add a short section briefly explaining what can be done to fix the gaps fou= nd.=20 We had left this section since the fixing part should be done in the BFD WG= and=20 this is a KARP document.
 
Cheers, Manav

From: Mahesh Jethanandani=20 [mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2= 012=20 1:47 AM
To: Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
Cc:=20 karp@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [karp] BFD Gap=20 Analysis

Manav,

Was there a plan to propose mechanisms to address the issues? I did = not=20 see them in the draft.

The remainder of this document exp=
lains the details of how these
   requirements fail to be met and proposes mechanisms for addressing
   them.

On Jan 25, 2012, at 3:34 AM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote:
Hi,

Many many moons ago Dacheng and I had written a short d= raft=20 doing BFD gap analysis as part of the KARP Phase 1. The draft was brief= ly=20 discussed in the BFD WG and this version incorporates the comments we=20 received there + some boiler plate changes.

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-bhatia-zhang-karp-bfd-analysis-02.txt=

Comments=20 on this version are welcome!

Cheers,=20 Manav
_______________________________________________
karp mailin= g=20 list
karp@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/karp
=

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