From bew@cisco.com Wed Aug 1 10:50:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: karp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: karp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1910911E834D for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 10:50:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PahA-xd8KsId for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 10:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9659011E8185 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 10:50:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=bew@cisco.com; l=270; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1343843430; x=1345053030; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id: to:mime-version; bh=z+jIBwKukd9HQKf43TfMab8hNsqwxNrd/ETQAgAr8HE=; b=T1tfXoLiDh5jjdClRAGcGt1nQZ/FG2OfXcDLrXxkRN+0+/j9+qd0Edjn uYnFeSZYhsnsH8sniQmbRa0R5ouNJT4CIEMwykR5A+PvF832BDoVtr/id Hb135053GBTmFwF6JRFUnb8B+5MXDggufS/iGuFW0Pz5iqfqnTmD85JYL s=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnoHADdrGVCrRDoJ/2dsb2JhbABFgyyCCIg+qx6BB4I5ASeCEAkZh2oMmzuBKKBRjzaCPGADiE2Meo4ngWaCfw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,695,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="53705147" Received: from mtv-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.58.9]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2012 17:50:30 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn2-923.cisco.com (sjc-vpn2-923.cisco.com [10.21.115.155]) by mtv-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q71HoU0g001295 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:50:30 GMT From: Brian Weis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 10:50:33 -0700 Message-Id: <0ED25186-8628-42A4-92D0-F55C0417A778@cisco.com> To: karp@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: [karp] IETF 84 KARP WG minutes X-BeenThere: karp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for key management for routing and transport protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:50:59 -0000 Greetings, The KARP WG minutes have been posted. Many thanks to Wes Georges for = providing them. Corrections may be sent to the list or to the chairs = . 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[74.110.100.136]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l3sm2682503qan.19.2012.08.14.14.43.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:43:18 -0700 (PDT) From: RJ Atkinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:43:16 -0400 Message-Id: <70DAA4B8-C39E-457C-93C0-31DBABF1373E@gmail.com> To: karp@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: [karp] Issue with KARP meeting minutes X-BeenThere: karp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for key management for routing and transport protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:43:20 -0000 At present, the meeting minutes are unclear in multiple places about which person said what. As an example, the word "Steve" could refer to several different people in the room -- and even to several different people who are mentioned in the KARP WG meeting minutes. That name is not the only problematic one. Could the WG Chairs please edit the minutes to expand people's names more fully in order to remove the confusion/ambiguity about who said what ? Thanks, Ran