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ASN.1 needs a reference. Also, it would be good to have an example of how
the Level of Assurance URIs can be used, as I couldn't figure this out
just by looking at already registered values from the referenced IANA
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On Tue, 2017-01-24 at 20:12 -0600, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> This message begins a two-week call for adoption of
> draft-mccallum-kitten-krb-service-discovery (the current version of
> which is
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mccallum-kitten-krb-service-discove
> ry-03).
> 
> Though to some extent the document is documenting an existing
> deployment,
> there may be value to be gained from having WG approval of a
> mechanism
> perceived as a general improvement to the kerberos protocol.
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I support adopting this document.

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As co-author of the draft I support its adption.

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Many thanks for the review, Robert. These reviews are much appreciated,
and at least from my perspective, improve the quality of the RFCs. Happy
to hear from Benjamin that he=92s considering the editorial issues =
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Jari


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Please expand CANMAC and KDC on first mention.



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Please expand CAMMAC and KDC on first mention.

(Edited because I apparently can't spell CAMMAC)



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On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 08:12:44PM -0600, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> This message begins a two-week call for adoption of
> draft-mccallum-kitten-krb-service-discovery (the current version of which is
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mccallum-kitten-krb-service-discovery-03).
> 
> Though to some extent the document is documenting an existing deployment,
> there may be value to be gained from having WG approval of a mechanism
> perceived as a general improvement to the kerberos protocol.
> 
> Please send messages of support, opposition, and other comments to the
> WG list.

Thanks to all who replied.  There appears to be ample support for adopting
this document.  Nathaniel (or Matt), please submit a
draft-ietf-kitten-krb-service-discovery-00 at your convenience.

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also welcome in the interim, and would count towards our assessment of
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move it forwards to the IESG.

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I have submitted the existing draft under the new name. Besides the
submission date and name, there were no other changes.

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 08:12:44PM -0600, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This message begins a two-week call for adoption of
>> draft-mccallum-kitten-krb-service-discovery (the current version of which is
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mccallum-kitten-krb-service-discovery-03).
>>
>> Though to some extent the document is documenting an existing deployment,
>> there may be value to be gained from having WG approval of a mechanism
>> perceived as a general improvement to the kerberos protocol.
>>
>> Please send messages of support, opposition, and other comments to the
>> WG list.
>
> Thanks to all who replied.  There appears to be ample support for adopting
> this document.  Nathaniel (or Matt), please submit a
> draft-ietf-kitten-krb-service-discovery-00 at your convenience.
>
> Substantive reviews of draft-mccallum-kitten-krb-service-discovery-03 are
> also welcome in the interim, and would count towards our assessment of
> whether there is working group consensus on the document in order to
> move it forwards to the IESG.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Common Authentication Technology Next Generation of the IETF.

        Title           : Kerberos Service Discovery using DNS
        Authors         : Nathaniel McCallum
                          Matt Rogers
	Filename        : draft-ietf-kitten-krb-service-discovery-00.txt
	Pages           : 9
	Date            : 2017-02-09

Abstract:
   This document proposes defines a new mechanism for discovering
   Kerberos services using DNS.  This new mechanism extends the
   mechanism already defined in Kerberos V5 [RFC4120] and has four
   goals.  First, reduce the number of DNS queries required to discover
   a Kerberos KDC.  Second, provide DNS administrators more control over
   client behavior.  Third, provide support for discovery of the MS-
   KKDCP transport.  Fourth, define a discovery procedure for Kerberos
   password services.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Common Authentication Technology Next Generation of the IETF.

        Title           : Authentication Indicator in Kerberos Tickets
        Authors         : Anupam Jain
                          Nathan Kinder
                          Nathaniel McCallum
	Filename        : draft-ietf-kitten-krb-auth-indicator-07.txt
	Pages           : 6
	Date            : 2017-02-09

Abstract:
   This document updates RFC 4120 in order to specify an extension in
   the Kerberos protocol.  It defines a new authorization data type AD-
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   is to include an indicator of the strength of a client's
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On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 05:47:31PM -0600, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
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I've reviewed the whole thing.  I have no comments other than that I
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On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 08:30:37PM -0600, Nico Williams wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 05:47:31PM -0600, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> > This is just a no-change rebuild to un-expire the document.
> 
> I've reviewed the whole thing.  I have no comments other than that I
> approve.  Let's get it published.

Thanks, Nico.

With that, I think we can conclude that this document has WG
consensus and proceed to move it forward.  That should leave
some room for us to pick up some new work, which is quite exciting!

-Ben


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The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'Authentication Indicator in Kerberos Tickets'
  (draft-ietf-kitten-krb-auth-indicator-07.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Common Authentication Technology Next
Generation Working Group.

The IESG contact persons are Stephen Farrell and Kathleen Moriarty.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-kitten-krb-auth-indicator/





Technical Summary

This document specifies a new authorization data element for Kerberos.
This element is designed to contain an indication of the nature of
the initial authentication, for subsequent use in policy decisions.

Working Group Summary

This document is short and simple, and had broad support for adoption
when it was first introduced, even eliciting comments from
WG participants that are usually silent.

Document Quality

This is a Standards-Track document as befits its intended role as a
standard part of Kerberos implementations, and Updates RFC 4120 in
accordance with that intention for the new data type to be implemented
in tandem with implementations of RFC 4120.

Personnel

Benjamin Kaduk is the document shepherd.  Stephen Farrell is the
responsible Area Director.


RFC Editor Note

The ASN.1 references deliberately do refer to versions of
those specs that are old. That is intentional, as those are
the version of ASN.1 that we know works and we confirmed
that with the authors and wg chairs. So no need to ask the 
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        RFC 8070

        Title:      Public Key Cryptography for Initial 
                    Authentication in Kerberos (PKINIT) 
                    Freshness Extension 
        Author:     M. Short, Ed.,
                    S. Moore, 
                    P. Miller
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       February 2017
        Mailbox:    michikos@microsoft.com, 
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        Pages:      9
        Characters: 16348
        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-freshness-07.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8070

        DOI:        10.17487/RFC8070

This document describes how to further extend the Public Key
Cryptography for Initial Authentication in Kerberos (PKINIT)
extension (defined in RFC 4556) to exchange an opaque data blob that
a Key Distribution Center (KDC) can validate to ensure that the
client is currently in possession of the private key during a PKINIT
Authentication Service (AS) exchange.

This document is a product of the Common Authentication Technology Next Generation Working Group of the IETF.

This is now a Proposed Standard.

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        RFC 8062

        Title:      Anonymity Support for Kerberos 
        Author:     L. Zhu, 
                    P. Leach,
                    S. Hartman, 
                    S. Emery, Ed.
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       February 2017
        Mailbox:    larry.zhu@microsoft.com, 
                    pauljleach@msn.com, 
                    hartmans-ietf@mit.edu,
                    shawn.emery@gmail.com
        Pages:      18
        Characters: 42542
        Obsoletes:  RFC 6112
        Updates:    RFC 4120, RFC 4121, RFC 4556

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-kitten-rfc6112bis-03.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8062

        DOI:        10.17487/RFC8062

This document defines extensions to the Kerberos protocol to allow a
Kerberos client to securely communicate with a Kerberos application
service without revealing its identity, or without revealing more
than its Kerberos realm.  It also defines extensions that allow a
Kerberos client to obtain anonymous credentials without revealing its
identity to the Kerberos Key Distribution Center (KDC).  This
document updates RFCs 4120, 4121, and 4556.  This document obsoletes
RFC 6112 and reclassifies that document as Historic.  RFC 6112
contained errors, and the protocol described in that specification is
not interoperable with any known implementation.  This specification
describes a protocol that interoperates with multiple
implementations.

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Subject: Re: [kitten] RFC 8062 on Anonymity Support for Kerberos
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On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 05:16:57PM -0800, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.
> 
>         
>         RFC 8062
> 
>         Title:      Anonymity Support for Kerberos 
>         Author:     L. Zhu, 
>                     P. Leach,
>                     S. Hartman, 
>                     S. Emery, Ed.
>         Status:     Standards Track
>         Stream:     IETF
>         Date:       February 2017
>         Mailbox:    larry.zhu@microsoft.com, 
>                     pauljleach@msn.com, 
>                     hartmans-ietf@mit.edu,
>                     shawn.emery@gmail.com
>         Pages:      18
>         Characters: 42542
>         Obsoletes:  RFC 6112
>         Updates:    RFC 4120, RFC 4121, RFC 4556
> 
>         I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-kitten-rfc6112bis-03.txt
> 
>         URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8062
> 
>         DOI:        10.17487/RFC8062

Great work all!

We're ready to send rfc5653bis to the RFC Editor as well, and are
looking for reviews of draft-ietf-kitten-krb-service-discovery!

-Ben

