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Support.

  regards

     Nic

________________________________
Von: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von =
Bitar, Nabil N
Gesendet: Freitag, 16. Dezember 2011 15:16
An: l2vpn@ietf.org
Cc: Giles Heron
Betreff: [l2vpn] WG Poll for adopting the draft =B3A Framework for E-Tree S=
ervice over MPLS Network=B2 as a WG document

Hi,

This is the start of a three-week working group poll for adopting the draft=
 "A Framework for E-Tree Service over MPLS Network" as an L2VPN WG document=
.

The draft can be found at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-key-l2vpn-etree-=
frwk-06 .

Please, review the draft and send any comments to the L2VPN working group e=
mail list.

This WG poll will close on Friday January 6, 2012.

Regards,
Nabil

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class=3DApple-style-span><BR></SPAN><SPAN=20
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class=3DApple-style-span>Please, review the draft and send any comments to =
the=20
L2VPN working group email list.</SPAN><SPAN=20
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class=3DApple-style-span>&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN=20
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Support.

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From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of B=
itar, Nabil N
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ervice over MPLS Network=B2 as a WG document

Hi,

This is the start of a three-week working group poll for adopting the draft=
 "A Framework for E-Tree Service over MPLS Network" as an L2VPN WG document=
.

The draft can be found at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-key-l2vpn-etree-=
frwk-06 .

Please, review the draft and send any comments to the L2VPN working group e=
mail list.

This WG poll will close on Friday January 6, 2012.

Regards,
Nabil

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Support,



Cheers,


wz





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From: Rafique, Tariq [mailto:trafique@above.net]
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2012 04:34 PM
To: 'Bitar, Nabil N', l2vpn@ietf.org
Cc: 'Giles Heron'
Subject: RE: [l2vpn] WG Poll for adopting the draft =B3A Framework for E-=
Tree Service over MPLS Network=B2 as a WG document

Support.
Thanks,

Tariq
From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of=
 Bitar, Nabil N
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 9:16 AM
To: l2vpn@ietf.org
Cc: Giles Heron
Subject: [l2vpn] WG Poll for adopting the draft =B3A Framework for E-Tree=
 Service over MPLS Network=B2 as a WG document


Hi,


This is the start of a three-week working group poll for adopting the dra=
ft ?A Framework for E-Tree Service over MPLS Network? as an L2VPN WG docu=
ment. 


The draft can be found at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-key-l2vpn-etre=
e-frwk-06 .

Please, review the draft and send any comments to the L2VPN working group=
 email list. 

This WG poll will close on Friday January 6, 2012.

Regards,
Nabil 




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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
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	Title           : OAM Procedures for VPWS Interworking
	Author(s)       : Mustapha Aissaoui
                          Peter B. Busschbach
                          Dave Allan
                          Monique Morrow
                          Thomas Nadeau
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpws-iw-oam-03.txt
	Pages           : 12
	Date            : 2012-01-06

   This draft proposes OAM procedures for the Ethernet interworking, IP
   interworking and FR-ATM interworking Virtual Private
   Wire Service (VPWS).





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This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04

should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.

Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.

Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
to its suitability for WG adoption.

Giles



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This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
=20
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04

should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.

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start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.

Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
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Giles



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Support the work.

-Vishwas

On 1/9/12, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
>
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
>
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
> pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
>
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
>
> Giles
>
>
>

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> -----Original Message-----
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> Of Giles Heron
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:40 AM
> To: l2vpn@ietf.org
> Subject: WG adoption of draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn
>=20
> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
>=20
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
>=20
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time
> to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and
> the
> pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
>=20
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with
> comments as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
>=20
> Giles
>=20


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Nadeem.

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> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
>=20
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> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
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>=20
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with
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Definitely support it.

-Manish

On 1/9/12, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
>
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
>
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think=20
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time=20
> to start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft=20
> and the pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
>
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with=20
> comments as to its suitability for WG adoption.
>
> Giles
>
>
>

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> -----Original Message-----
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> To: l2vpn@ietf.org
> Subject: WG adoption of draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn
>
> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
>
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
>
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time
> to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and
> the
> pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
>
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with
> comments as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
>
> Giles

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http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04

should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.

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l's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to start =
considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the pbb-ep=
vn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.

Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as=
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Giles



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-Ali

> -----Original Message-----
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>=20
> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
>=20
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
>=20
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> to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and
> the
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> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with
> comments as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
>=20
> Giles
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> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:40 AM
> To: l2vpn@ietf.org
> Subject: WG adoption of draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn
>=20
> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
>=20
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
>=20
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and th=
e
> pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
>=20
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments =
as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
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> Giles
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Support.

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> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>  
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
> 
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
> 
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
> pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
> 
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
> 
> Giles
> 
> 


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On 1/9/12 10:39 AM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04

should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.

Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.

Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
to its suitability for WG adoption.

Giles




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On Jan 9, 2012, at 13:39, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
>=20
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
>=20
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and th=
e
> pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
>=20
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments =
as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
>=20
> Giles
>=20
>=20

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iles Heron
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This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
=20
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04

should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.

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l's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to start =
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vn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.

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Support


On Jan 9, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
> 
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
> 
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
> pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
> 
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
> 
> Giles
> 
> 

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On Jan 9, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Giles Heron wrote:

> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
> 
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
> 
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
> pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
> 
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
> 
> Giles
> 
> 


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(2012/01/10 3:39), Giles Heron wrote:
> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
> 
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
> 
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
> pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
> 
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
> 
> Giles
> 
> 



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On Jan 9, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Giles Heron <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
> 
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
> 
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
> pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
> 
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
> 
> Giles
> 
> 

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Subject: WG adoption of draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn

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http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04

should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.

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l's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to start =
considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the pbb-ep=
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+1 as co-author

On 1/9/12 2:11 PM, "Henderickx, Wim (Wim)"
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>Support as a co-author
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
>Giles Heron
>Sent: maandag 9 januari 2012 19:40
>To: l2vpn@ietf.org
>Subject: WG adoption of draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn
>
>This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>=20
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
>
>should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
>
>Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
>Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
>start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
>pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
>
>Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments
>as
>to its suitability for WG adoption.
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>Giles
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Support.

Regards

   Nic

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Von: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von =
Giles Heron
Gesendet: Montag, 9. Januar 2012 19:40
An: l2vpn@ietf.org
Betreff: WG adoption of draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn

This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04

should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.

Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.

Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
to its suitability for WG adoption.

Giles



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Hi everyone,

At IETF82 in Taipei we polled the room to ask if there was any interest by
non-authors in the VPMS Framework & Requirements draft:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpms-frmwk-requirements-04

There were no hands raised in the room, and hence we decided to poll the
working group list to see if there's any interest.

So would people please respond within the next two weeks (i.e. by Tuesday
January 24th) if they have interest in seeing this draft progressed to RFC.
Responses by non-authors, and by carriers, would be especially welcome.

If there is sufficient interest in seeing this draft progress we will
attempt to arrange for expert review of the draft before progressing it to
RFC.

Nabil & Giles



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Thanks a lot for your support=2C will submit working group draft accordingl=
y.Raymond KeyFrom: nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com
To: nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com=3B l2vpn@ietf.org
Date: Tue=2C 10 Jan 2012 07:19:06 -0500
Subject: [l2vpn] Support for adopting the draft "A Framework for E-Tree	Ser=
vice over MPLS Network" as an l2vpn WG document
CC: giheron@cisco.com



Hi=2CThe poll closed on 1/6/2012 and responses showed good support to adopt=
ing the draft  "A Framework for E-Tree Service over MPLS Network" as a WG d=
ocument. Authors of the draft=2C please issue the draft as an IETF l2vpn wo=
rking group draft 00 by the cutoff date for initial draft (00) submission f=
or the IETF 83 meeting in Paris. Please=2C consider the comment from Dave A=
llen regarding the informative reference.
Thanks=2CNabil


From:  Nabil Bitar <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com>
Date:  Fri=2C 16 Dec 2011 09:16:08 -0500
To:  "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
Cc:  Giles Heron <giheron@cisco.com>
Subject:  [l2vpn] WG Poll for adopting the draft =B3A Framework for E-Tree =
Service over MPLS Network=B2 as a WG document

Hi=2C
This is the start of a three-week working group poll for adopting the draft=
 =93A Framework for E-Tree Service over MPLS Network=94 as an L2VPN WG docu=
ment.=20
The draft can be found at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-key-l2vpn-etree-=
frwk-06 .
=20
Please=2C review the draft and send any comments to the L2VPN working group=
 email list.=20

This WG poll will close on Friday January 6=2C 2012.
=20
Regards=2C
Nabil  		 	   		  =

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ect: </span> [l2vpn] WG Poll for adopting the draft =B3A Framework for E-Tr=
ee Service over MPLS Network=B2 as a WG document<br></div><div><br></div><d=
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ze: 14px=3B"><span style=3D'font-family: "Times New Roman"=3B font-size: 16=
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ss=3D"ecxApple-style-span">This is the start of a three-week working group =
poll for adopting the draft =93</span><span style=3D'font-family: "Times Ne=
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for E-Tree Service over MPLS Network</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:=
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xApple-style-span">&nbsp=3B</span><span style=3D'font-family: "Times New Ro=
man"=3B font-size: 16px=3B' class=3D"ecxApple-style-span"><a href=3D"http:/=
/tools.ietf.org/html/draft-key-l2vpn-etree-frwk-06" target=3D"_blank">http:=
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Thanks a lot for your support=2C will submit working group draft accordingl=
y.Raymond Key
From: nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com
To: nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com=3B l2vpn@ietf.org
Date: Tue=2C 10 Jan 2012 07:19:06 -0500
Subject: [l1vpn] Support for adopting the draft "A Framework for E-Tree	Ser=
vice over MPLS Network" as an l2vpn WG document
CC: giheron@cisco.com



Hi=2CThe poll closed on 1/6/2012 and responses showed good support to adopt=
ing the draft  "A Framework for E-Tree Service over MPLS Network" as a WG d=
ocument. Authors of the draft=2C please issue the draft as an IETF l2vpn wo=
rking group draft 00 by the cutoff date for initial draft (00) submission f=
or the IETF 83 meeting in Paris. Please=2C consider the comment from Dave A=
llen regarding the informative reference.
Thanks=2CNabil


From:  Nabil Bitar <nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com>
Date:  Fri=2C 16 Dec 2011 09:16:08 -0500
To:  "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
Cc:  Giles Heron <giheron@cisco.com>
Subject:  [l2vpn] WG Poll for adopting the draft =B3A Framework for E-Tree =
Service over MPLS Network=B2 as a WG document

Hi=2C
This is the start of a three-week working group poll for adopting the draft=
 =93A Framework for E-Tree Service over MPLS Network=94 as an L2VPN WG docu=
ment.=20
The draft can be found at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-key-l2vpn-etree-=
frwk-06 .
=20
Please=2C review the draft and send any comments to the L2VPN working group=
 email list.=20

This WG poll will close on Friday January 6=2C 2012.
=20
Regards=2C
Nabil  		 	   		  =

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Thanks a lot for your support=2C will submit working group draft accordingl=
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=3D"stopSpelling">From: nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com<br>To: nabil.n.bitar@veri=
zon.com=3B l2vpn@ietf.org<br>Date: Tue=2C 10 Jan 2012 07:19:06 -0500<br>Sub=
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<meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft SafeHTML"><div>Hi=2C</div><di=
v>The poll closed on 1/6/2012 and responses showed good support to adopting=
 the draft&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B"A Framework for E-Tree Service over MPLS Network=
" as a WG document.&nbsp=3B</div><div>Authors of the draft=2C please issue =
the draft as an IETF l2vpn working group draft 00 by the cutoff date for in=
itial draft (00) submission for the IETF 83 meeting in Paris. Please=2C con=
sider the comment from Dave Allen regarding the informative reference.</div=
><div><br></div><div>Thanks=2C</div><div>Nabil</div><div><br></div><div><br=
></div><div><br></div><span id=3D"ecxOLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style=3D"bo=
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: 11pt=3B"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=3B">From: </span> Nabil Bitar &=
lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com">nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com=
</a>&gt=3B<br><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=3B">Date: </span> Fri=2C 16 =
Dec 2011 09:16:08 -0500<br><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=3B">To: </span>=
 "<a href=3D"mailto:l2vpn@ietf.org">l2vpn@ietf.org</a>" &lt=3B<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:l2vpn@ietf.org">l2vpn@ietf.org</a>&gt=3B<br><span style=3D"font-weight=
: bold=3B">Cc: </span> Giles Heron &lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:giheron@cisco.co=
m">giheron@cisco.com</a>&gt=3B<br><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=3B">Subj=
ect: </span> [l2vpn] WG Poll for adopting the draft =B3A Framework for E-Tr=
ee Service over MPLS Network=B2 as a WG document<br></div><div><br></div><d=
iv><div style=3D"color: rgb(0=2C 0=2C 0)=3B font-family: Calibri=2C sans-se=
rif=3B font-size: 14px=3B word-wrap: break-word=3B"><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly: Calibri=2C sans-serif=3B font-size: 14px=3B"><span style=3D'font-family=
: "Times New Roman"=3B font-size: 16px=3B' class=3D"ecxApple-style-span">Hi=
=2C</span></div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri=2C sans-serif=3B font-si=
ze: 14px=3B"><span style=3D'font-family: "Times New Roman"=3B font-size: 16=
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mily: Calibri=2C sans-serif=3B"><span style=3D"font-size: 16px=3B" class=3D=
"ecxApple-style-span"><span style=3D'font-family: "Times New Roman"=3B' cla=
ss=3D"ecxApple-style-span">This is the start of a three-week working group =
poll for adopting the draft =93</span><span style=3D'font-family: "Times Ne=
w Roman"=3B white-space: pre=3B' class=3D"ecxApple-style-span">A Framework =
for E-Tree Service over MPLS Network</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:=
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New Roman"=3B' class=3D"ecxApple-style-span">=94 as an L2VPN WG document.</=
span><span style=3D'font-family: "Times New Roman"=3B' class=3D"ecxApple-st=
yle-span">&nbsp=3B</span></span></div><div><span style=3D'font-family: "Tim=
es New Roman"=3B font-size: 16px=3B' class=3D"ecxApple-style-span"><br></sp=
an></div><div><span style=3D'font-family: "Times New Roman"=3B font-size: 1=
6px=3B' class=3D"ecxApple-style-span">The draft can be found at</span><span=
 style=3D'font-family: "Times New Roman"=3B font-size: 16px=3B' class=3D"ec=
xApple-style-span">&nbsp=3B</span><span style=3D'font-family: "Times New Ro=
man"=3B font-size: 16px=3B' class=3D"ecxApple-style-span"><a href=3D"http:/=
/tools.ietf.org/html/draft-key-l2vpn-etree-frwk-06" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//tools.ietf.org/html/draft-key-l2vpn-etree-frwk-06</a>&nbsp=3B</span><span=
 style=3D'font-family: "Times New Roman"=3B font-size: 16px=3B' class=3D"ec=
xApple-style-span">.</span><span style=3D'font-family: "Times New Roman"=3B=
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e=3D'font-family: "Times New Roman"=3B font-size: 16px=3B' class=3D"ecxAppl=
e-style-span">Please=2C review the draft and send any comments to the L2VPN=
 working group email list.</span><span style=3D'font-family: "Times New Rom=
an"=3B font-size: 16px=3B' class=3D"ecxApple-style-span">&nbsp=3B</span><sp=
an style=3D'font-family: "Times New Roman"=3B font-size: 16px=3B' class=3D"=
ecxApple-style-span"><br></span><span style=3D'font-family: "Times New Roma=
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yle=3D'font-family: "Times New Roman"=3B font-size: 16px=3B' class=3D"ecxAp=
ple-style-span">This WG poll will close on Friday January 6=2C 2012.</span>=
<span style=3D'font-family: "Times New Roman"=3B font-size: 16px=3B' class=
=3D"ecxApple-style-span"><br></span><span style=3D'font-family: "Times New =
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=20
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Yes, support.

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Yes, support.

Kenichi

On 1/10/12 3:39 AM, Giles Heron wrote:
> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
>
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
>
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
> pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
>
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
>
> Giles
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I tentatively support this draft. However I'd like to ask whether it would 
be not more proper to decouple control-plane flooding (BGP-related stuff) 
and learning/forwarding? The reason is that it's possible to devise a method 
other than described in the draft to distribute MAC addresses (e.g. using 
IGP) while utilising the same learning/forwarding mechanism described in 
this draft. Likewise, a forwarding mechanism supporting active-active 
multihoming for Broadcast, Unknown unicast, Multicast traffic can be 
envisioned that could use same flooding method (BGP) as described in this 
draft. To avoid future works to be build upon 
draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn a split would be helpful.

Thoughts?

Cheers,
iLya

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> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
>
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
>
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
> pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
>
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments 
> as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
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>

 


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Hi Giles & L2VPN WG,

I do not support acceptance of this document. (Yes I realize I am a bit 
original in this thread with 26.5 supports already ;-)

I find draft-sajassi-l2vpn-pbb-evpn as much more scalable solution yet 
fully covering services which draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn claims 
to offer.

I also do not think this WG should proceed with both.

Regarding Ilya's comment I 100% agree that control plane and data plane 
should be described in separate documents - that is referring to both 
pbb-evpn and evpn drafts.

The fundamental reason for this is that while documents describe very 
well how to construct data plane they only bring "learning" based 
control plane as example. I think this is clear to everyone that there 
are other more efficient control planes today which do not follow 
"distribute information everywhere" flooding model. Especially in EVPN 
distributing customer MACs everywhere where there may never be a 
conversation seems in the number of applications as not even suboptimal 
.. but just broken.

Editorial nit to draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04.txt .. line 363 
contains ref to [BGP-VPLS-MH] which is not found in references. The 
closest one is: [VPLS-MULTIHOMING]. Another nit is that it is hard to 
tell which references are normative and which are only informational.

Rgs,
R.

> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
>
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>
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>
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
>
> Giles
>
>
>
>


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Yes/Support.

Regards
Yuanlong

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This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04

should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.

Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.

Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
to its suitability for WG adoption.

Giles




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Hi Robert,

> I think this is clear to everyone that there
> are other more efficient control planes today which do not follow
> "distribute information everywhere" flooding model. Especially in EVPN
> distributing customer MACs everywhere where there may never be a
> conversation seems in the number of applications as not even suboptimal
> .. but just broken.

Agree that flooding customer MACs everywhere is not good. Here we may consider using RTC mechanism [RFC4684]. Then one of my concern is about the Auto-Derivation of the Route Target from Ethernet Tag ID. This way the automatically generated RTs may be overlapped with RT spaces of other VPN services (e.g. L3VPN), and we know overlapped RT space would impact the effect of RTC.

Regards,
Jie

> 
> > This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
> >
> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
> >
> > should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
> >
> > Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> > Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
> > start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
> > pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
> >
> > Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments
> as
> > to its suitability for WG adoption.
> >
> > Giles
> >
> >
> >
> >


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Hello Jie,

> Agree that flooding customer MACs everywhere is not good. Here we may
> consider using RTC mechanism [RFC4684].

Well I am well going beyond that. I actually assumed RFC4684 is in 
effect already .. one of the reasons I asked for normative references :).

In particular I am talking about data center inter-connectivity
where large number of the VMs _belonging_ to the same customer E-VPN may 
never need to exchange data between each other yet their respective MSEs 
may be loaded with huge number of MAC addresses for no reason.

As a matter of fact PBB-EVPN doc says is very clearly:

    In typical operation, an [E-VPN] MES sends a BGP MAC Advertisement
    Route per customer/client MAC (C-MAC) address. In certain
    applications, this poses scalability challenges, as is the case in
    virtualized data center environments where the number of virtual
    machines (VMs), and hence the number of C-MAC addresses, can be in
    the millions. In such scenarios, it is required to reduce the number
    of BGP MAC Advertisement routes by relying on a MAC 'summarization'
    scheme, as is provided by PBB. Note that the MAC sub-netting
    capability already built into E-VPN is not sufficient in those
    environments, as will be discussed next.

Best,
R.

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Hi Robert,

> > Agree that flooding customer MACs everywhere is not good. Here we may
> > consider using RTC mechanism [RFC4684].
> 
> Well I am well going beyond that. I actually assumed RFC4684 is in
> effect already .. one of the reasons I asked for normative references :).

OK

> In particular I am talking about data center inter-connectivity
> where large number of the VMs _belonging_ to the same customer E-VPN may
> never need to exchange data between each other yet their respective MSEs
> may be loaded with huge number of MAC addresses for no reason.
> 
> As a matter of fact PBB-EVPN doc says is very clearly:
> 
>     In typical operation, an [E-VPN] MES sends a BGP MAC Advertisement
>     Route per customer/client MAC (C-MAC) address. In certain
>     applications, this poses scalability challenges, as is the case in
>     virtualized data center environments where the number of virtual
>     machines (VMs), and hence the number of C-MAC addresses, can be in
>     the millions. In such scenarios, it is required to reduce the number
>     of BGP MAC Advertisement routes by relying on a MAC 'summarization'
>     scheme, as is provided by PBB. Note that the MAC sub-netting
>     capability already built into E-VPN is not sufficient in those
>     environments, as will be discussed next.

For MES to learn only C-MACs of active traffic, PBB-EVPN draft proposes to learn C-MAC through data-plane:

	The MES nodes perform the following functions:
 	- Learn customer/client MAC addresses (C-MACs) over the attachment
 	 circuits in the data-plane, per normal bridge operation.
  
 	- Learn remote C-MAC to B-MAC bindings in the data-plane from
 	 traffic ingress from the core per [802.1ah] bridging operation.

Data-plane learning means unknown unicast broadcasting cannot be eliminated. And as you say that "there are other more efficient control planes today which do not follow "distribute information everywhere" flooding model", can one of them replace the C-MAC data-plane learning in PBB-EVPN draft? 

Best regards,
Jie


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Yes, I'm happy to work on this.

Yuji

> -----Original Message-----
> From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Giles Heron
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:58 PM
> To: l2vpn@ietf.org
> Subject: VPMS Framework & Requirements
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> At IETF82 in Taipei we polled the room to ask if there was any interest by
> non-authors in the VPMS Framework & Requirements draft:
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpms-frmwk-requirements-04
> 
> There were no hands raised in the room, and hence we decided to poll the
> working group list to see if there's any interest.
> 
> So would people please respond within the next two weeks (i.e. by Tuesday
> January 24th) if they have interest in seeing this draft progressed to RFC.
> Responses by non-authors, and by carriers, would be especially welcome.
> 
> If there is sufficient interest in seeing this draft progress we will
> attempt to arrange for expert review of the draft before progressing it to
> RFC.
> 
> Nabil & Giles



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We have adopted L2VPN, and in practice find only a handful of shortfalls.  =
At the top of the list of shortfalls is 'ability to prevent customer traffi=
c that has egressed the L2VPN from re-entering', in other words 'loop preve=
ntion on ACs', and also 'efficient support of multicast customer traffic'.

Customers are 'turned off' when we tell them that our service will treat th=
eir multicast just like it was broadcast.

in short, I have interest.




On 01/10/2012 08:57 AM, Giles Heron wrote:

Hi everyone,

At IETF82 in Taipei we polled the room to ask if there was any interest by
non-authors in the VPMS Framework & Requirements draft:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpms-frmwk-requirements-04

There were no hands raised in the room, and hence we decided to poll the
working group list to see if there's any interest.

So would people please respond within the next two weeks (i.e. by Tuesday
January 24th) if they have interest in seeing this draft progressed to RFC.
Responses by non-authors, and by carriers, would be especially welcome.

If there is sufficient interest in seeing this draft progress we will
attempt to arrange for expert review of the draft before progressing it to
RFC.

Nabil & Giles



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Hi Jie,

> Data-plane learning means unknown unicast broadcasting cannot be
> eliminated. And as you say that "there are other more efficient
> control planes today which do not follow "distribute information
> everywhere" flooding model", can one of them replace the C-MAC
> data-plane learning in PBB-EVPN draft?

Yes it can. However I do not see this as showstopper from proceeding 
forward with current pbb-evpn document including data plane based MAC 
learning.

Thx,
R.

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A new Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Working Group of the IETF.

    Title         : ARP Mediation for IP Interworking of Layer 2 VPN
    Author(s)     : H. Shah, et al
    Filename      : draft-ietf-l2vpn-arp-mediation-19.txt
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    Date          : 2012-01-12
    
The Virtual Private Wire Service (VPWS) [RFC4664] provides 
     point-to-point connections between pairs of Customer Edge (CE) 
     devices.  It does so by binding two Attachment Circuits (each 
     connecting a CE device with a Provider Edge, PE, device) to a 
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     applicable even when the CEs run a routing protocol between 
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Hi all,
I have a question regarding draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-pe-model.

In Section 4 "Packet Walkthrough" the draft, to the best of my understanding=
, states that a packet received from one of the B- PWs is mapped to an appro=
priate virtual interface of the B-component without any MAC lookup because B=
-MAC.C-MAC-based forwarding per se is done by the B-component.
It further states that forwarding from one virtual interface of the B-compon=
ent to another such interface usually does not happen because there is only=
 one split horizon group in the VPLS instance.

My reading of this text suggests that B-component of the 802.1ah bridge (and=
 hence presumably the 802.1ah bridge itself) is aware of split horizon group=
s.
On the other hand, the draft mentions usage of MSTP as the loop-breaking mec=
hanism in 802.1ah.

Did I miss something? If not, which component of the PE reference model is a=
ware of split horizon groups?

Regards,
     Sasha



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Subject: Re: WG adoption of draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn
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Support.

Regards,
Samer


On 12-01-09 10:39 AM, "Giles Heron" <giles.heron@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a request to gauge consensus as to whether:
>  
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-sajassi-l2vpn-evpn-04
> 
> should be accepted as an L2VPN WG draft.
> 
> Now that we've accepted the requirements and framework drafts (I think
> Nabil's about to send email to the list re the framework!), it's time to
> start considering whether the solutions drafts we have (this draft and the
> pbb-epvn draft) are the right basis for our solutions docs.
> 
> Please review the draft and respond by Monday January 23rd with comments as
> to its suitability for WG adoption.
> 
> Giles
> 
> 


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Hi L2VPN Group members,

L2VPN group will converge one single solution on E-Tree, and I wish this
daft can share some good idea for that. 

I updated "Extension to signaling in VPLS for E-Tree"
(http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-cao-l2vpn-vpls-etree-01.txt) per some
feedback. This draft can implement E-Tree easily with minor extension on
VPLS application (RFC 4762, RFC 4761, RFC 6074). In one word, this draft
will create one or more PWs (Maximum is 3 PWs) between PEs in a VPLS domain,
but just breaks communication path between Leaf endpoints, so after PW are
created, data plane will not care where the frame originated from. If there
is one PW binding two ACs, the forwarding is allowed.

This is nearly similar to "VPLS PE Model for E-Tree Support", but the latter
solution uses Root VLAN ID and Leaf VLAN ID to indicate the frames, but
still one single PW between PEs in one VPLS domain. This is big difference,
I think. Data plane also participate in forwarding decision in "Extension to
LDP-VPLS for E-Tree Using Two PW". 

Could you please review it and collaborate on the mailing list, or direct to
the author? Looking forward to your feedback.

Thank you very much for your time,

Regards,

Yuqun(Sam) Cao



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Support.

(This is different from Etree.... )

pd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: l2vpn-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces at ietf.org] On
Behalf Of Giles Heron
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:58 PM
> To: l2vpn at ietf.org
> Subject: VPMS Framework & Requirements
>=20
> Hi everyone,
>=20
> At IETF82 in Taipei we polled the room to ask if there was any
interest by
> non-authors in the VPMS Framework & Requirements draft:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpms-frmwk-requirements-04
>=20
> There were no hands raised in the room, and hence we decided to poll
the
> working group list to see if there's any interest.
>=20
> So would people please respond within the next two weeks (i.e. by
Tuesday
> January 24th) if they have interest in seeing this draft progressed to
RFC.
> Responses by non-authors, and by carriers, would be especially
welcome.
>=20
> If there is sufficient interest in seeing this draft progress we will
> attempt to arrange for expert review of the draft before progressing
it to
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Hi authors,

IIUC, the use of the FEC wildcard in your draft is limited to label
withdrawal and status notification messages (actually the limitation
comes from RFC 5918).=20

It seems to me that it would be useful to extend the use of the wildcard
also to MAC address withdrawal messages, with a view to supporting MAC
flush operations for a group of PWs. A scenario where this comes useful
is LSP failure, where the PE would want to signal MAC flush over all PWs
in the LSP in a single message.=20

What do you think?=20

Thanks,

Daniel

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire Emulation Edge
to Edge Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : LDP Typed Wildcard FEC for the PW FEC Elements
	Author(s)       : Kamran Raza
                          Sami Boutros
                          Carlos Pignataro
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pwe3-pw-typed-wc-fec-01.txt
	Pages           : 8
	Date            : 2012-01-09

   The "Typed Wildcard Forwarding Equivalence Class (FEC) Element"
   defines an extension to the Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) that
   can be used when it is desired to request or withdraw or release all
   label bindings for a given FEC Element type.  However, a typed
   wildcard FEC element must be individually defined for each FEC
   element type.  This specification defines the typed wildcard FEC
   elements for the PWid (0x80), Generalized PWid (0x81), and P2MP PW
   (0x82) FEC element types.



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Hi, Daniel,

Thank you for the input!

Yes, this sounds like a good suggestion and useful addition, as the FEC
TLV is a parameter in the context of the MAC Address Withdraw. So a MAC
Address Withdraw can be scoped beyond a single VPLS instance to all, or
to all given a PW.

We are working on some text to post an updated revision -03.

Thanks,

-- Carlos.

On 1/24/2012 9:53 AM, Daniel Cohn wrote:
> Hi authors,
> 
> IIUC, the use of the FEC wildcard in your draft is limited to label
> withdrawal and status notification messages (actually the limitation
> comes from RFC 5918). 
> 
> It seems to me that it would be useful to extend the use of the wildcard
> also to MAC address withdrawal messages, with a view to supporting MAC
> flush operations for a group of PWs. A scenario where this comes useful
> is LSP failure, where the PE would want to signal MAC flush over all PWs
> in the LSP in a single message. 
> 
> What do you think? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Daniel
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [PWE3] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pwe3-pw-typed-wc-fec-01.txt
> 
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories. This draft is a work item of the Pseudowire Emulation Edge
> to Edge Working Group of the IETF.
> 
> 	Title           : LDP Typed Wildcard FEC for the PW FEC Elements
> 	Author(s)       : Kamran Raza
>                           Sami Boutros
>                           Carlos Pignataro
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-pwe3-pw-typed-wc-fec-01.txt
> 	Pages           : 8
> 	Date            : 2012-01-09
> 
>    The "Typed Wildcard Forwarding Equivalence Class (FEC) Element"
>    defines an extension to the Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) that
>    can be used when it is desired to request or withdraw or release all
>    label bindings for a given FEC Element type.  However, a typed
>    wildcard FEC element must be individually defined for each FEC
>    element type.  This specification defines the typed wildcard FEC
>    elements for the PWid (0x80), Generalized PWid (0x81), and P2MP PW
>    (0x82) FEC element types.
> 
> 
> 
> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
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> xt
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Hi everyone,

I have recently posted a first draft of the Control Plane requirements for
Network Virtualization Overlays.

http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-kreeger-nvo3-overlay-cp-00.txt

This draft is a follow-up to draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-01
( http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-01
) which makes the case for overlay networks in data centers (not restricted
to L2 over L3) and the need for control plane solutions.

If you have not read draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-01, I
highly suggest reading it first because the posted control plane reqs
document picks up where it left off.

Since the posted draft is a followup to
draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-01 , and there is already an
NVO3 mailing list, please join and post any discussion and/or comments to
nvo3@ietf.org
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Thank you,
Larry Kreeger

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