From Rolf.Winter@neclab.eu Mon May 21 05:06:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B0C21F863E for ; Mon, 21 May 2012 05:06:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9jy4mEdVBVZN for ; Mon, 21 May 2012 05:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0FD21F8639 for ; Mon, 21 May 2012 05:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561D11011A9 for ; Mon, 21 May 2012 14:00:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas-a.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dJaVqkS19oNL for ; Mon, 21 May 2012 14:00:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ENCELADUS.office.hd (enceladus.office.hd [192.168.24.52]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E54A1011A8 for ; Mon, 21 May 2012 14:00:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Polydeuces.office.hd ([169.254.3.172]) by ENCELADUS.office.hd ([192.168.24.52]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Mon, 21 May 2012 14:06:02 +0200 From: Rolf Winter To: "ledbat@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [irtf-discuss] Fwd: [rtcweb] Hold the date: Trying to get a workshop on congestion control for real time interactive media together.... Thread-Index: AQHNNcXVvp9ymhlvB0eFmcQJdL9/yZbUKGIQ Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 12:06:02 +0000 Message-ID: <791AD3077F94194BB2BDD13565B6295D250D792C@Polydeuces.office.hd> Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.7.0.198] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [ledbat] FW: [irtf-discuss] Fwd: [rtcweb] Hold the date: Trying to get a workshop on congestion control for real time interactive media together.... X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 12:06:21 -0000 In case you've missed this. It might be interesting for a number of people = on this list. NEC Europe Limited | Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road, London = W3 6BL | Registered in England 2832014=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: irtf-discuss-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:irtf-discuss- > bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Eggert, Lars > Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 14:00 > To: irtf-discuss@irtf.org; iccrg@cs.ucl.ac.uk > Subject: [irtf-discuss] Fwd: [rtcweb] Hold the date: Trying to get a > workshop on congestion control for real time interactive media > together.... >=20 > FYI >=20 > It is likely that the IRTF will co-sponsor this event, since congestion > control has been one of our long-running research topics. >=20 > Lars >=20 > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > > From: Harald Alvestrand > > Subject: [rtcweb] Hold the date: Trying to get a workshop on > congestion control for real time interactive media together.... > > Date: May 19, 2012 15:46:39 GMT+02:00 > > To: "rtp-congestion@alvestrand.no" > > Cc: "rtcweb@ietf.org" > > > > FYI ... .the IAB is trying to get together a workshop (of the typical > IAB format; people get invited if they contribute ideas beforehand) > together before the Vancouver IETF, covering the same subject area as > the RTP congestion work. > > > > This would have a goal, among other things, of getting people to > think about the subject matter for our BOF/WG, and get people better > informed (and interested!) before the BOF. > > > > The likely date is Saturday before the IETF (July 28), but this is > not settled yet, so don't book tickets specifically for this until you > hear the official announcement.... > > > > Harald > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rtcweb mailing list > > rtcweb@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb From Rolf.Winter@neclab.eu Thu May 24 00:11:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A095211E8076 for ; Thu, 24 May 2012 00:11:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.066 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.066 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.266, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dOelyiSJ8A4Z for ; Thu, 24 May 2012 00:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9E611E80A3 for ; Thu, 24 May 2012 00:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46DB10122C for ; Thu, 24 May 2012 09:05:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas-a.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vaF+otRKjE9E for ; Thu, 24 May 2012 09:05:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ENCELADUS.office.hd (enceladus.office.hd [192.168.24.52]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7241011E3 for ; Thu, 24 May 2012 09:05:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Polydeuces.office.hd ([169.254.3.172]) by ENCELADUS.office.hd ([192.168.24.52]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Thu, 24 May 2012 09:11:17 +0200 From: Rolf Winter To: "ledbat@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Call for Papers: IAB/IRTF Workshop on Congestion Control for Interactive Real-Time Communication, July 28, 2012 Vancouver, Canada Thread-Index: Ac05BVJ9GY02ljhNR9uSzzhncS7x7QAdv0HA Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 07:11:16 +0000 Message-ID: <791AD3077F94194BB2BDD13565B6295D250E3DC4@Polydeuces.office.hd> Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.7.0.204] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [ledbat] FW: Call for Papers: IAB/IRTF Workshop on Congestion Control for Interactive Real-Time Communication, July 28, 2012 Vancouver, Canada X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 07:11:24 -0000 FYI. In case you have missed it... =20 > IAB / IRTF Workshop on > Congestion Control for Interactive > Real-Time Communication >=20 >=20 > July 28, 2012 > Vancouver, Canada >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IAB and IRTF will hold a workshop on Congestion Control for > Interactive Real-Time Communication" in Vancouver, Canada on Saturday, > July 28th, 2012 prior to the IETF-84 meeting (see > http://www.ietf.org/meeting/84/index.html > ). Participation at the > workshop is free of charge. There is no requirement to either register > with or attend the IETF-84 meeting that follows the workshop. >=20 >=20 >=20 > The workshop organizers would like to foster a discussion on: >=20 > 1. What are appropriate congestion signals to use for interactive > media and data? > 2. What existing congestion control algorithms are appropriate for > interactive media and data? What properties would be desirable in new > congestion control algorithms? > 3. Measurement and/or simulations of new congestion signals (e.g., > delay-based) and their interaction with existing congestion control > mechanisms. > 4. What are good available techniques for adjusting sending rates > for interactive media and data? What are the limits of those > techniques? What properties would be desirable in new techniques? > 5. What application-specific considerations have to be taken into > account? > 6. How can we ensure that real-time communications are well-behaved > with respect to other Internet applications while still providing good > quality? > 7. What should the IETF and/or IRTF do? >=20 > The organizers seek position papers on any or all of these topics, as > well as other topics related to congestion control for interactive > realtime media. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Every prospective workshop participant must submit a position paper > containing a name and an email address. Authors of accepted papers will > be invited to the workshop. Papers up to 3 pages, formatted in HTML, > PDF, or plain text (for example, as a submitted Internet-Draft) are > ideal. Accepted position papers will be published. Additional details > about the meeting venue will be provided to authors of accepted papers. >=20 >=20 > Important Dates >=20 >=20 > Position paper submission deadline: June 23, 2012 > Notification to paper authors: June 30, 2012 > Workshop date: July 28, > 2012 >=20 >=20 > Additional Details >=20 >=20 > Additional details on the workshop as well as the submission process is > available at http://www.iab.org/cc-workshop/ >=20 >=20 > Contact >=20 >=20 > To sponsors: If you are interested to help us working towards better > interactive media congestion control mechanisms on the Internet (such > as by making a contribution towards catering costs and room rental), > please contact us! >=20 >=20 > In case of questions please send email to mary.ietf.barnes at gmail.com. >=20 >=20 NEC Europe Limited | Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road, London = W3 6BL | Registered in England 2832014