Subject: [lemonade] FW: Lemonade Minutes from IETF 59

From: "Eric Burger" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:27:16 -0500

Any comments?  We have to submit by 4/1.

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From: Vaudreuil, Greg M (Greg) [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:00 AM
To: [email-masked]; Eric Burger
Cc: Glenn Parsons (E-mail)
Subject: Lemonade Minutes from IETF 59

Jabber Scribe:  Tony Hansen

Agenda accepted as revised

WG attendees affirmed consensus to not extend charter to create a general composition protocol.

WG reviewed WG documents without presentations
	- Goals: Awaiting ID Nits review, then WG last-call
	- Channel: On hold pending Push/Pull decision
	- MMS Mapping: No dependencies, waiting for WG attention .. doc is expired
		- Update with substantial additions ready for posting in a few weeks
	- S2S Notifications: In Nits review prior to a WG last-call
	- Medis Size: an individual contribution slated for AD review
		need update reflrecting neds comments
	- Future Delivery:  
		- defer decision on wg status till af5ter push/pull
		- Sense of room on whether revocation is an important requirement
		- Group hum suggests most see revocation is a "nice to have", 
			small group thinks it is a requirement
Push vs Pull discussion
	- Chair presented market realities, demonstrating haste is of essence
	- Alexi presented overview of pull mechanism, sense of room requested on 
		- Sense that need to pick a pull proposal to know what group is humming for.
		- Some desire to have a hybrid option between options 2 and 3
	- Peter Presented Push draft
		- No presentation made (so scribe has to type)
			Practical stuff
			- Afraid folks will implement push anyway... and do it wrong.
				see M-IMAP.
			- Is pull easily understandable?  Depends upon the varient
			Security
			- The space does not seem fully understood
			- Push seems more secure .. fewer clients to authorization DB
			Architecture issues
			- Not sure why push is long-term limited as asserted
			GV mentioued a fourth, race  conditions

Open Discussion
  - Notes lost.

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