Special thanks to Qin Wu for scribing and capturing these!<= /div>

If there are omissions or corrections, please respond to th= e list.

Thanks,

Carlos.

--_000_FEFBF3924BF24C408B73F0477E486BB4ciscocom_-- From nobody Sat Nov 22 10:12:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD011ACDDF for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:12:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id klu31cxMTHHH for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from emea01-am1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-am1on0687.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fe00::687]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F33A31ACDF5 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:12:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from DB3PR04MB0761.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com (25.160.51.152) by DB3PR04MB0762.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com (25.160.51.153) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.26.15; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:09:21 +0000 Received: from DB3PR04MB0761.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com ([25.160.51.152]) by DB3PR04MB0761.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com ([25.160.51.152]) with mapi id 15.01.0026.003; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:09:21 +0000 From: "Doolan, Paul (Coriant - US/Irving)" To: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" Thread-Topic: [Lime] *DRAFT* Minutes for LIME at IETF91 posted Thread-Index: AQHQBm4DCeUcaRvf9E68yxzTvqWE/Jxs8hCA Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:09:20 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-originating-ip: [32.210.21.102] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:DB3PR04MB0762; x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:DB3PR04MB0762; x-forefront-prvs: 040359335D x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(189002)(51914003)(24454002)(377454003)(199003)(95666004)(76176999)(54356999)(50986999)(83716003)(87936001)(2656002)(82746002)(97736003)(19580405001)(33656002)(19580395003)(31966008)(101416001)(92726001)(92566001)(86362001)(4396001)(46102003)(40100003)(36756003)(107046002)(20776003)(64706001)(122556002)(77156002)(77096003)(62966003)(16236675004)(21056001)(120916001)(110136001)(99396003)(66066001)(106356001)(105586002)(106116001)(104396001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:DB3PR04MB0762; H:DB3PR04MB0761.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_A00BB17F2F62474D948FFDC31B7AB7A4coriantcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: coriant.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lime/YEx0fAG0mkV9iSv4q3M6llAj3AU Cc: "lime@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] *DRAFT* Minutes for LIME at IETF91 posted X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:12:52 -0000 --_000_A00BB17F2F62474D948FFDC31B7AB7A4coriantcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carlos, On Nov 22, 2014, at 11:04 AM, "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" > wrote: f there are omissions or corrections, please respond to the list. Looking at the minutes of my presentation I find: For bullet one you wrote: "Dan pointed that RFC6291 also have recomendation to how to use OAM in IETF Paul said point taken." This might be more accurately stated: Dan pointed that RFC6291 contains recommendations on how to use the term OA= M in IETF. Paul said point taken 6291 is about the meaning of the acronym more than about OAM itself. For bullet two you wrote: "Ron asked that this draft may be useful when we deveope work item and cont= iute to be useful after WG is shut down, who will be the user? Paul mention= ed perhaps some from ITU-T." What I believe I said (or at least meant to) in answer to Ron's question wa= s that the work (in the draft) would be useful to anyone who sought to have= a concise and accessible summary of the ITU-T work in this area. It took a= long time to assemble the material in it and would save others repeating t= hat. So I think this bullet might be more accurately minuted as: Ron asked that this draft may be useful when we deveope work item and conti= ute to be useful after WG is shut down, who will be the user? Paul mentione= d that it would continue be useful to anyone looking for a concise summary = of the (extensive) ITU-T SG15 work in this area. I hope you find these modifications accurate and agreeable. thanks for the minutes and for entertaining the presentation, best, pd --_000_A00BB17F2F62474D948FFDC31B7AB7A4coriantcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <7AD24FF8CA4103438F68CD616DBA8298@eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carlos,

On Nov 22, 2014, at 11:04 AM, "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" = <cpignata@cisco.com>

wrote:

f there are omissions or corrections, please respond to the list.

Looking at the minutes of my presentation I find:

For bullet one you wrote:

"Dan pointed that RFC6291 also have reco=
mendation to how to use OAM in IETF
Paul said point taken."

This might be more accurately stated:<=
/pre>
Dan pointed that RFC6291 contains recomm=
endations on how to use the term OAM in IETF. Paul said point taken<=
/pre>6291 is about the meaning of the acronym=
 more than about OAM itself.

=

For bullet two you wrote:

"Ron asked that=
 this draft may be useful when we deveope work item and contiute to be usef=
ul after WG is shut down, who will be the user? Paul mentioned perhaps some=
 from ITU-T."

What I believe I said (or at le=
ast meant to) in answer to Ron's question was that the work (in the draft) =
would be useful to anyone who sought to have a concise and accessible summa=
ry of the ITU-T work in this area. It took a long time to assemble the mate=
rial in it and would save others repeating that. So I think this bullet mig=
ht be more accurately minuted as:

Ron asked that this draft m=
ay be useful when we deveope work item and contiute to be useful after WG i=
s shut down, who will be the user? Paul mentioned that it would continue be=
 useful to anyone looking for a concise summary of the (extensive) ITU-T SG=
15 work in this area.




I hope you find these modifications accurate and agreeable.






thanks for the minutes and for entertaining the presentation,
best,
pd

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[80.57.215.85]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ek9sm4553061wib.21.2014.11.22.12.30.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 22 Nov 2014 12:30:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5470F278.9000201@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:30:48 +0100 From: Huub van Helvoort User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lime@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lime/qlK3wcBnP1aIL4h46mvYSQMq2I4 Subject: Re: [Lime] *DRAFT* Minutes for LIME at IETF91 posted X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: huubatwork@gmail.com List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." 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Gap Analysis for LIME https://tools.ietf.org/agenda/91/slides/slides-91-lime-1.pdf Yuji Tochio Best regards, Huub. -- ***************************************************************** 请记住，你是独一无二的，就像其他每一个人一样 From nobody Sat Nov 22 18:15:41 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9451A1A57 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:15:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.692 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.692 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xT-u4QJOruLz for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp (fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp [192.51.44.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0263B1A1A50 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from kw-mxoi1.gw.nic.fujitsu.com (unknown [10.0.237.133]) by fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77A53EE0C7 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:15:34 +0900 (JST) Received: from s2.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (s2.gw.fujitsu.co.jp [10.0.50.92]) by kw-mxoi1.gw.nic.fujitsu.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EECAC0341 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:15:33 +0900 (JST) Received: from m3051.s.css.fujitsu.com (m3051.s.css.fujitsu.com [10.134.21.209]) by s2.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F821DB802C for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:15:33 +0900 (JST) X-SecurityPolicyCheck: OK by SHieldMailChecker v2.3.2 X-SHieldMailCheckerPolicyVersion: FJ-ISEC-20140924-1 X-SHieldMailCheckerMailID: f1fdb3356687442ea68566a11cf4b09f Message-ID: <5471434A.2020401@jp.fujitsu.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:15:38 +0900 From: Yuji Tochio User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lime@ietf.org References: <5470F278.9000201@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5470F278.9000201@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-MML: No Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lime/fUjxIbDlULzun2e9SIdJSL2zJQM Subject: Re: [Lime] *DRAFT* Minutes for LIME at IETF91 posted X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." 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Thanks Yuji On 2014/11/23 5:30, Huub van Helvoort wrote: > Hello Carlos, Qin, > > You wrote: > >> The IETF91 LIME WG Session Minutes has been posted. >> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/minutes/minutes-91-lime >> >> Special thanks to Qin Wu for scribing and capturing these! >> >> If there are omissions or corrections, please respond to the list. > > Were there no comments on the presentation by Yuji Tochio? > > Gap Analysis for LIME > https://tools.ietf.org/agenda/91/slides/slides-91-lime-1.pdf > Yuji Tochio > > Best regards, Huub. > > From nobody Sun Nov 23 02:38:24 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C381A1AA2 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 02:38:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bMsHBdBqtNGJ for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 02:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-x229.google.com (mail-wi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 122921A0174 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 02:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r20so6280331wiv.4 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 02:38:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A3HT/5SIPNh3+l3dyfmqXVCv47/V358q2WHAzH2/dl4=; b=RQNO/yRaj8+cOi+GGWIIIRBAXKQTrNVGNXnd4LE3MSuNhAvrf1kWc4ckIkXLHnzsxd HyPk3TfGq5ZsQdzJtjAVrA7Pmxq+lmC6AhKofghb7eZ56/zwZPk18I5l+1E3jW65+1Nw Zy5iSC+8g+ndnvWTMZEWaG6FCZzIH6QLqBGuKp0+rAVqXWpaHtRe2BKU0BvjLNv1r8Tt iuURtt/rF2wu0A15aTPXP9fk3UsSwy7suC4inbc0wQ+tvFUwWe8OwNkLg8ltvSfeGEK2 wlIqpxx9QLwtOaU0/E0HhHLiVcfS/IPZKRNaLTQ75oOrWaAfig1KxVnDupIU5qXmkTdt nQng== X-Received: by 10.194.185.115 with SMTP id fb19mr24245423wjc.121.1416739099832; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 02:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from McAsterix.local (g215085.upc-g.chello.nl. 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Cheers, Huub. > On 2014/11/23 5:30, Huub van Helvoort wrote: >> Hello Carlos, Qin, >> >> You wrote: >> >>> The IETF91 LIME WG Session Minutes has been posted. >>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/minutes/minutes-91-lime >>> >>> Special thanks to Qin Wu for scribing and capturing these! >>> >>> If there are omissions or corrections, please respond to the list. >> >> Were there no comments on the presentation by Yuji Tochio? >> >> Gap Analysis for LIME >> https://tools.ietf.org/agenda/91/slides/slides-91-lime-1.pdf >> Yuji Tochio >> >> Best regards, Huub. >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Lime mailing list > Lime@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime > -- ***************************************************************** 请记住，你是独一无二的，就像其他每一个人一样 From nobody Sun Nov 23 17:30:43 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C620F1A1B79 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 17:30:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.94 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.94 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9cAt9DNkEIVT for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 17:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A24211A1B76 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 17:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BPD13579; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 01:30:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML401-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.32) by lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 01:30:34 +0000 Received: from NKGEML501-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.193]) by nkgeml401-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.32]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 09:30:29 +0800 From: Qin Wu To: "Doolan, Paul (Coriant - US/Irving)" , "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" Thread-Topic: [Lime] *DRAFT* Minutes for LIME at IETF91 posted Thread-Index: AQHQBm4DCeUcaRvf9E68yxzTvqWE/Jxs8hCAgAIM6qA= Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 01:30:28 +0000 Message-ID: References:

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Hi, Paul:<= o:p>

Thanks for= adding missing pieces. Your proposed modification works for me.=

= ;

Regards!

-Qin<= /o:p>

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Lime [mailto:lime-bou= nces@ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED = Doolan, Paul (Coriant - US/Irving)
=B7=A2=CB=CD= =CA=B1=BC=E4: 2014=C4=EA11=D4=C2= 23=C8=D5 2:09
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
=B3=AD=CB=CD: lime@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [Lime] *DRAFT* Minutes for LIME at IETF91 posted

Hi Carlos,

On Nov 22, 2014, at 11:04 AM, &= quot;Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com>

wrote:<= /p>

f th= ere are omissions or corrections, please respond to the list.

Looking at the minutes of my pr= esentation I find:

For bullet one you wrote:

"Dan pointed that RFC6291 also have recomendation to=
 how to use OAM in IETF

Paul said point taken."<=
o:p>

This might be more accurately stated:

Dan pointed that RFC6291 contains recommendations on how =
to use the term OAM in IETF. Paul said point taken

6291 is about the meaning of the acronym more than about =
OAM itself.

For bullet two you wrote:

"Ron asked that this draft may be useful when we dev=
eope work item and contiute to be useful after WG is shut down, who will be=
 the user? Paul mentioned perhaps some from ITU-T."

What I believe I said (or at least meant to) in answer to=
 Ron's question was that the work (in the draft) would be useful to anyone =
who sought to have a concise and accessible summary of the ITU-T work in th=
is area. It took a long time to assemble the material in it and would save =
others repeating that. So I think this bullet might be more accurately minu=
ted as:

Ron asked that this draft may be useful when we deveope w=
ork item and contiute to be useful after WG is shut down, who will be the u=
ser? Paul mentioned that it would continue be useful to anyone looking for =
a concise summary of the (extensive) ITU-T SG15 work in this area.

I hope you find these modificat= ions accurate and agreeable.

thanks for the minutes and for = entertaining the presentation,

best,

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