From nobody Tue Mar 1 13:04:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3551B419F for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 13:04:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qwcWcoI4WpnI for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 13:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A55821B417E for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 13:04:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3779; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1456866277; x=1458075877; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: mime-version; bh=TYaGiXY6/TsguT9xFQl5nWQ/K2I3lR5GQWdfyAUx5Rw=; b=S9dVZHdvFmGoMwCKZSSRridFJqViiBv/OnKm5rwWqQnZsALQ6yr0l6Th mq4ddGUXXElrCnGA8nYXTtcvnjwb9Sa3C2RRXFBbBT11ilVLmBF25GyB7 5FuhcLiQf2D3cWbrrtqYIS9J3tuBAyB8kJv0w3MI9rtKkmRCnPx7+j216 0=; X-Files: signature.asc : 841 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0DmAgCVA9ZW/5tdJa1egzpSbQa6LQ6BZ?= =?us-ascii?q?hcKhXICgU44FAEBAQEBAQFkHAuEQQEBAQMBAQEBaxALAgEIGC4nCyUCBBMOiAk?= =?us-ascii?q?IDr9NAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBDQiGEoFsgk6HYIEPBZJ1hBkBgwiBZ?= =?us-ascii?q?GyICYFgS4N5iFKOSwEeAUODZGqHQ34BAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.22,524,1449532800"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="81314718" Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 01 Mar 2016 21:04:34 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-020.cisco.com (xch-aln-020.cisco.com [173.36.7.30]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u21L4Yb9028139 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 21:04:34 GMT Received: from xch-aln-020.cisco.com (173.36.7.30) by XCH-ALN-020.cisco.com (173.36.7.30) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 15:04:34 -0600 Received: from xch-aln-020.cisco.com ([173.36.7.30]) by XCH-ALN-020.cisco.com ([173.36.7.30]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 15:04:34 -0600 From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" To: "lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt Thread-Index: AQHRc20yYvgXHv5bbUi1C9l+5bA4d59FeaOA Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 21:04:33 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20160301034754.4848.95612.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20160301034754.4848.95612.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.82.224.80] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2A923B66-BCB5-4597-A1E8-6A06C5ED9073"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2016 21:04:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2A923B66-BCB5-4597-A1E8-6A06C5ED9073 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thank you authors for updating this LIME draft based on the discussion = at IETF94. WG, I would encourage open discussion on the list about the updates. We would also like to request a couple volunteers to provide a targeted = review of the document. If you can invest some time reviewing, please = let us know. Thank you! Carlos & Ron. > On Feb 29, 2016, at 10:47 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in = the Multi-Layer Environment of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Generic YANG Data Model for Connection = Oriented Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols > Authors : Tissa Senevirathne > Norman Finn > Deepak Kumar > Samer Salam > Qin Wu > Michael Wang > Filename : draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt > Pages : 47 > Date : 2016-02-29 >=20 > Abstract: > This document presents a base YANG Data model for connection = oriented > OAM protocols. It provides a technology-independent abstraction of > key OAM constructs for connection oriented protocols. Based model > presented here can be extended to include technology specific > details. This is leading to uniformity between OAM protocols and > support nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at > different levels through a unified interface). >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Lime mailing list > Lime@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime --Apple-Mail=_2A923B66-BCB5-4597-A1E8-6A06C5ED9073 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJW1gPhAAoJEIXgpQGOZny9KTEP/ienfhwzYFaj3Jg84Ks45Sg9 WhLo7SnP8vRpA82QiDdDHtkTxoCk8FgHvvdmSWwpglvA8ZQkLCigvglmonzBYg8C eKNpL1dr33ML8PLtaALfBDEG9322r04KjGiWL3Uoqhla4lp5jkOlWCFT5dXJhE13 DLEl0dqhblM8FqooCaHPS784WlNDqteERvYr54xsN1CktDdmLpKJly9/Q6vJCl/I Elfx1FOJ5NL14DvGG8Y4JRfbDw+OoQsGhDOKIUhTdO0JAGD+5eNsHdsTHae2PoeB +eMDiTPvvoEEhUGlGXU+5YTCG1RY3JVYPFmkPf7KgPl3nBF5MtuGipbzXQ/YJKUh +9kiFCSFJk+sB5WQN9HEknIZh1U3Wjp5SULljCo4wDck8f50QTLABXNNatfUoRp1 RZWjVrZtkUC53e+Unmza5rClUuh9qs+pReSFCkcuXbb1yRCHukbJUoViXLmx5wg8 F4bwU2Tnikt0lIgwxUJ9k8azIQ3qys/BsegwyCDkwDGERsrsz+8Ka0aFmLzihr+f nyvcKVb4MkvvrhfbynrvYcjeCr+nYw6ClUVBrAWy0KM70Q4fggxwwtfdsTwfisb/ VtHrt5SjufFGrpQ8gX1iBRRpPXayKvm6Ulot36l7gtbtomKrr3f/mzkP18dq8kS4 j9FLWHZOdiMW0xCbhBjv =ksFd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_2A923B66-BCB5-4597-A1E8-6A06C5ED9073-- From nobody Wed Mar 2 06:11:30 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietf.org Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E9D1B2AFD; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 06:11:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.15.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160302141127.6912.5459.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 06:11:27 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Lime] The LIME WG has placed draft-kumar-lime-yang-connectionless-oam in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:11:27 -0000 The LIME WG has placed draft-kumar-lime-yang-connectionless-oam in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Carlos Pignataro) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kumar-lime-yang-connectionless-oam/ Comment: Based on the discussion in IETF94, this document is the second part (C-O and CL) of the re-write of the lime model deliverable. 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Fri, 4 Mar 2016 23:51:01 -0500 From: Gregory Mirsky To: "internet-drafts@ietf.org" , "i-d-announce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt Thread-Index: AQHRc20yCKwYgMl9bkecPNr+v/26c59Ieo+g Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 04:51:00 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219F87A9@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> References: <20160301034754.4848.95612.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20160301034754.4848.95612.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.11] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219F87A9eusaamb103erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprEIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPuK5w4q0wgzsHLS2W7HrObPHhbq5F x7btTA7MHkuW/GQKYIzisklJzcksSy3St0vgytj+T6Hgbgdjxfebp1gbGNeVdTFyckgImEhs 7nrEDmGLSVy4t56ti5GLQ0jgCKPE31MnWSCcZYwS/U9usoBUsQkYSbzY2APWISKQI3H391Ow OLOAssS9T//A4sICrhL75kHERQTcJL49nskKYRtJvPrdywZiswioSLxueggU5+DgFfCVmDc/ BiQsJOAgMWPiVrByTgFHiWcrdzOB2IxAx30/tYYJYpW4xK0n85kgjhaQWLLnPDOELSrx8vE/ VghbSeLj7/nsEPX5Ev8aFoKt5RUQlDg58wnLBEbRWUhGzUJSNgtJGURcR2LB7k9sELa2xLKF r5lh7DMHHjMhiy9gZF/FyFFaXJCTm25ksIkRGFPHJNh0dzDen+55iFGAg1GJh7dA+FaYEGti WXFl7iFGCQ5mJRHetdFAId6UxMqq1KL8+KLSnNTiQ4zSHCxK4rzr314OExJITyxJzU5NLUgt gskycXBKNTCe8ps67cKMFd/T965lyg3j05wZuOTH/3lrjxYnLn19/fW7P3dlDnVpsPcqtxRf erl+1h5T5jCTY3d+X3/0zreJ/+MzXsl6/0OBnbWbPodfOvXdfOM1i7Oh3PcuHfjRslQxU2Ka tskRvb0xYT3T1Gf6CaS1rKhnqvtmPNfkU4Zm2Cp5Ba/Fl/ymKLEUZyQaajEXFScCABf4/IWl AgAA Archived-At: Cc: "lime@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 04:51:07 -0000 --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219F87A9eusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Authors, et. al, thank you for updating the model and clarifying its applicability. Below ar= e my notes on the new version that we can discuss on the list and/or at the= meeting: * I think that the list in the description includes technologies, i= .e. mpls, that are not connection-oriented: "this is the base identy of technology types which are TRILL,mpls,vpls etc"= ; perhaps mpls-tp would be better. and s/indent/identity/ * I think that Interval must have been set of values, not int32 wit= hout a range. I believe that anything less than 3.3 millisecond would not b= e supported by any OAM protocol. But 3.3 msec cannot be configured through = current definition of the Interval. That can be done if Interval being expr= essed in microseconds. But we still don't need range, we need set 3.3 msec,= 10 msec, 100msec, 1 sec, 10 sec. 1 minute and 10 minutes are questionable.= These are intervals from Ethernet OAM. RFC 7419 recommends somewhat differ= ent set of intervals for HW-based implementation of BFD - 3.3 msec, 10 msec= , 20 msec, 50 msec, 100 msec, and 1 sec. I've noticed some Nits and nits in the text. The former Summary: 1 error (**), 0 flaws (~~), 2 warnings (=3D=3D), 1 comment (--). you can fix and check with idnits in verbose mode on Community Tools page. = I can help with the latter if you kindly can share MS format of the documen= t. Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf= .org Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:48 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: lime@ietf.org Subject: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Mu= lti-Layer Environment of the IETF. Title : Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented O= perations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols Authors : Tissa Senevirathne Norman Finn Deepak Kumar Samer Salam Qin Wu Michael Wang Filename : draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt Pages : 47 Date : 2016-02-29 Abstract: This document presents a base YANG Data model for connection oriented OAM protocols. It provides a technology-independent abstraction of key OAM constructs for connection oriented protocols. Based model presented here can be extended to include technology specific details. This is leading to uniformity between OAM protocols and support nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different levels through a unified interface). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Lime mailing list Lime@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219F87A9eusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Authors, et. al,

thank you for updating the model and clarifying i= ts applicability. Below are my notes on the new version that we can discuss= on the list and/or at the meeting:

·         I think that the list in the description inc= ludes technologies, i.e. mpls, that are not connection-oriented:=

"this is the base= identy of technology types which are TRILL,mpls,vpls etc";

perhaps mpls-tp would = be better.

and s/indent/identity/=

·         I think that Interval must have been set of = values, not int32 without a range. I believe that anything less than 3.3 mi= llisecond would not be supported by any OAM protocol. But 3.3 msec cannot b= e configured through current definition of the Interval. That can be done if Interval being expressed in microseco= nds. But we still don’t need range, we need set 3.3 msec, 10 msec, 10= 0msec, 1 sec, 10 sec. 1 minute and 10 minutes are questionable. These are i= ntervals from Ethernet OAM. RFC 7419 recommends somewhat different set of intervals for HW-based implementation of BFD - 3= .3 msec, 10 msec, 20 msec, 50 msec, 100 msec, and 1 sec.

I’ve noticed some Nits and nits in the text= . The former

Summary: 1 error (**), 0 flaws (~~), 2 warnings (= =3D=3D), 1 comment (--).

you can fix and check with idnits in verbose mode= on Community Tools page. I can help with the latter if you kindly can shar= e MS format of the document.

 

        &= nbsp;       Regards,

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;           Greg

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf= .org
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:48 PM
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
Cc: lime@ietf.org
Subject: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt

 

 

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-lin= e Internet-Drafts directories.

This draft is a work item of the Layer Independen= t OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment of the IETF.

 

        Title&= nbsp;          : Generic YANG = Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations, Administration, and Maintena= nce(OAM) protocols

        Author= s         : Tissa Senevirathne=

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;     Norman Finn

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;     Deepak Kumar

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;     Samer Salam

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;     Qin Wu

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;     Michael Wang

        &= nbsp;       Filename    &= nbsp;   : draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt

        &= nbsp;       Pages    &nbs= p;      : 47

        &= nbsp;       Date     = ;       : 2016-02-29

 

Abstract:

   This document presents a base YANG D= ata model for connection oriented

   OAM protocols.  It provides a t= echnology-independent abstraction of

   key OAM constructs for connection or= iented protocols.  Based model

   presented here can be extended to in= clude technology specific

   details.  This is leading to un= iformity between OAM protocols and

   support nested OAM workflows (i.e., = performing OAM functions at

   different levels through a unified i= nterface).

 

 

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft i= s:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model/

 

There's also a htmlized version available at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02

 

A diff from the previous version is available at:=

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-mo= del-02

 

 

Please note that it may take a couple of minutes = from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are availab= le at tools.ietf.org.

 

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous F= TP at:

<= span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ftp://ftp.ietf.org/int= ernet-drafts/

 

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Hi Greg,

 

Thank you for these good comments!

Please see Inline.

 

Best Regards!

Michael

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Lime [m= ailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA= =B1=ED Gregory Mirsky
=B7=A2= =CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2016=C4=EA3=D4=C25=C8=D5 12:51
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org
=B3=AD=CB=CD: lime@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt

 

Dear Authors, et. al,

thank you for updating the m= odel and clarifying its applicability. Below are my notes on the new versio= n that we can discuss on the list and/or at the meeting:<= /p>

=A1=A4         I think that the list i= n the description includes technologies, i.e. mpls, that are not connection= -oriented:

"this is the base identy of technology types which are TRILL,mpls,vpl= s etc";

perhaps mpls-tp would be better.

and s/indent/identity/

[zitao]: agree=

=A1=A4         I think that Interval m= ust have been set of values, not int32 without a range. I believe that anyt= hing less than 3.3 millisecond would not be supported by any OAM protocol. = But 3.3 msec cannot be configured through current definition of the Interval. That can be done if Interval b= eing expressed in microseconds. But we still don=A1=AFt need range, we need= set 3.3 msec, 10 msec, 100msec, 1 sec, 10 sec. 1 minute and 10 minutes are= questionable. These are intervals from Ethernet OAM. RFC 7419 recommends somewhat different set of intervals for = HW-based implementation of BFD - 3.3 msec, 10 msec, 20 msec, 50 msec, 100 m= sec, and 1 sec.

=  

= [zitao]: I th= ink an enumeration type can address this issue like:

=  

leaf interval {

type enumeration {

enum 3.3ms;

enum 10ms;

enum 20ms;

enum 50ms;

enum 100ms;

enum 1s;

enum 10s;  

}

= }<= /span>

 

I=A1=AFve noticed some Nits = and nits in the text. The former

Summary: 1 error (**), 0 fla= ws (~~), 2 warnings (=3D=3D), 1 comment (--).

you can fix and check with i= dnits in verbose mode on Community Tools page. I can help with the latter i= f you kindly can share MS format of the document.

[zit= ao]: Thank you to point out these nits, I=A1=AFd like to fix it.

    &nbs= p;           Regards,

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;  Greg

 

 

-----Original Message----- From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:48 PM
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
Cc: lime@ietf.org
Subject: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt

 

 

A New Internet-Draft is avai= lable from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

This draft is a work item of= the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment of the= IETF.

 

    &nbs= p;   Title         &= nbsp; : Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations, Adminis= tration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols

    &nbs= p;   Authors         : Ti= ssa Senevirathne

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Norman Finn

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Deepak Kumar

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Samer Salam

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Qin Wu

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Michael Wang

    &nbs= p;           Filename&nbs= p;       : draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.= txt

    &nbs= p;           Pages &= nbsp;         : 47

    &nbs= p;           Date &n= bsp;          : 2016-02-29

 

Abstract:<= /p>

   This document p= resents a base YANG Data model for connection oriented

   OAM protocols.&= nbsp; It provides a technology-independent abstraction of=

   key OAM constru= cts for connection oriented protocols.  Based model<= /p>

   presented here = can be extended to include technology specific

   details.  = This is leading to uniformity between OAM protocols and

   support nested = OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at

   different level= s through a unified interface).

 

 

The IETF datatracker status = page for this draft is:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lim= e-yang-oam-model/

 

There's also a htmlized vers= ion available at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-o= am-model-02

 

A diff from the previous ver= sion is available at:

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-= ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02

 

 

Please note that it may take= a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version= and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

 

Internet-Drafts are also ava= ilable by anonymous FTP at:

f= tp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

 

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Hi Michael,=

thank you for your con= sideration. I think that set may be better option.

Another, rather genera= l observation. The Abstract states:

=A1=B0It provides a te= chnology-independent abstraction of key OAM constructs for connection orien= ted protocols.=A1=B1

but we can find many e= xamples, e.g. definition of CC intervals, of technology specific. It could = be that augmenting TRILL OAM and MPLS-TP OAM YANG models (draft-zhang-mpls-= tp-yang-oam-02 for MPLS-TP) would be path to truly technology-independent abstraction. What do you think? What = others think?

 

   &nbs= p;            Regard= s,

   &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Greg

 

From: wangzita= o [mailto:wangzitao@huawei.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 10:05 PM
To: Gregory Mirsky; internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org<= br> Cc: lime@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.tx= t

 

Hi Gr= eg,

=  

Thank= you for these good comments!

Pleas= e see Inline.

=  

Best = Regards!

Micha= el

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Lime [mailto:lime= -bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED Gregory Mirsky
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Dear Authors, et. al,

thank you for updating the model and clarifying i= ts applicability. Below are my notes on the new version that we can discuss= on the list and/or at the meeting:

=A1=A4&= nbsp;        I think that the list in the description inc= ludes technologies, i.e. mpls, that are not connection-oriented:=

"this is the base= identy of technology types which are TRILL,mpls,vpls etc";

perhaps mpls-tp would = be better.

and s/indent/identity/=

[zitao]: agree

=A1=A4&= nbsp;        I think that Interval must have been set of = values, not int32 without a range. I believe that anything less than 3.3 mi= llisecond would not be supported by any OAM protocol. But 3.3 msec cannot b= e configured through current definition of the Interval. That can be done if Interval being expressed in microseco= nds. But we still don=A1=AFt need range, we need set 3.3 msec, 10 msec, 100= msec, 1 sec, 10 sec. 1 minute and 10 minutes are questionable. These are in= tervals from Ethernet OAM. RFC 7419 recommends somewhat different set of intervals for HW-based implementation of BFD - 3= .3 msec, 10 msec, 20 msec, 50 msec, 100 msec, and 1 sec.

 

[zitao]: I think an enumeratio= n type can address this issue like:

 

= leaf interval {

type enumeration {

enum 3.3ms;

enum 10ms;

enum 20ms;

enum 50ms;

enum 100ms;

enum 1s;

enum 10s;  

}

}

 

I=A1=AFve noticed some Nits and nits in the text.= The former

Summary: 1 error (**), 0 flaws (~~), 2 warnings (= =3D=3D), 1 comment (--).

you can fix and check with idnits in verbose mode= on Community Tools page. I can help with the latter if you kindly can shar= e MS format of the document.

[zitao]: Thank you = to point out these nits, I=A1=AFd like to fix it.

        &= nbsp;       Regards,

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;           Greg

 

 

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From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:48 PM
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
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Subject: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt

 

 

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-lin= e Internet-Drafts directories.

This draft is a work item of the Layer Independen= t OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment of the IETF.

 

        Title&= nbsp;          : Generic YANG = Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations, Administration, and Maintena= nce(OAM) protocols

        Author= s         : Tissa Senevirathne=

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;     Norman Finn

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;     Deepak Kumar

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;     Samer Salam

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;     Qin Wu

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;     Michael Wang

        &= nbsp;       Filename    &= nbsp;   : draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt

        &= nbsp;       Pages    &nbs= p;      : 47

        &= nbsp;       Date     = ;       : 2016-02-29

 

Abstract:

   This document presents a base YANG D= ata model for connection oriented

   OAM protocols.  It provides a t= echnology-independent abstraction of

   key OAM constructs for connection or= iented protocols.  Based model

   presented here can be extended to in= clude technology specific

   details.  This is leading to un= iformity between OAM protocols and

   support nested OAM workflows (i.e., = performing OAM functions at

   different levels through a unified i= nterface).

 

 

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft i= s:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model/

 

There's also a htmlized version available at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02

 

A diff from the previous version is available at:=

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-mo= del-02

 

 

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Hi G= reg,

 

Our = initial consideration is to present these common parameters. But there is a= little of difference on same terminology when it be extended to some techn= ology specific oam(such as mpls-tp). For example:

for = trill, there is cc-interval;

for = mpls-tp, there are cc-transmit-interval and cc-receive-interval.

Ther= efore, I agree with you and I think we can remove these parameters in the n= ext version.

 

Best= Regards=A3= =A1

Mich= ael

 

 

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Gregory= Mirsky [mailto:gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com]
=B7=A2= =CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2016=C4=EA3=D4=C28=C8=D5 8:20
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: wangzitao; internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org
=B3=AD=CB=CD: lime@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: RE: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt

 

Hi Mich= ael,

thank y= ou for your consideration. I think that set may be better option.

Another= , rather general observation. The Abstract states:

=A1=B0I= t provides a technology-independent abstraction of key OAM constructs for c= onnection oriented protocols.=A1=B1

but we = can find many examples, e.g. definition of CC intervals, of technology spec= ific. It could be that augmenting TRILL OAM and MPLS-TP OAM YANG models (dr= aft-zhang-mpls-tp-yang-oam-02 for MPLS-TP) would be path to truly technology-independent abstraction. What do you thi= nk? What others think?

&n= bsp;

 &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;  Regards,

 &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;     Greg

&n= bsp;

From: wangzitao [ma= ilto:wangzitao@huawei.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 10:05 PM
To: Gregory Mirsky; inte= rnet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org
Cc: lime@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.tx= t

 

Hi Greg,

 

Thank you for these good comments!

Please see Inline.

 

Best Regards!

Michael

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Lime [<= a href=3D"mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA= =B1=ED Gregory Mirsky
=B7=A2= =CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2016=C4=EA3=D4=C25=C8=D5 12:51
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-= announce@ietf.org
=B3=AD=CB=CD: lime@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt

 

Dear Authors, et. al,

thank you for updating the m= odel and clarifying its applicability. Below are my notes on the new versio= n that we can discuss on the list and/or at the meeting:<= /p>

=A1=A4         I think that the list i= n the description includes technologies, i.e. mpls, that are not connection= -oriented:

"this is the base identy of technology types which are TRILL,mpls,vpl= s etc";

perhaps mpls-tp would be better.

and s/indent/identity/

[zitao]: agree=

=A1=A4         I think that Interval m= ust have been set of values, not int32 without a range. I believe that anyt= hing less than 3.3 millisecond would not be supported by any OAM protocol. = But 3.3 msec cannot be configured through current definition of the Interval. That can be done if Interval b= eing expressed in microseconds. But we still don=A1=AFt need range, we need= set 3.3 msec, 10 msec, 100msec, 1 sec, 10 sec. 1 minute and 10 minutes are= questionable. These are intervals from Ethernet OAM. RFC 7419 recommends somewhat different set of intervals for = HW-based implementation of BFD - 3.3 msec, 10 msec, 20 msec, 50 msec, 100 m= sec, and 1 sec.

=  

= [zitao]: I th= ink an enumeration type can address this issue like:

=  

leaf interval {

type enumeration {

enum 3.3ms;

enum 10ms;

enum 20ms;

enum 50ms;

enum 100ms;

enum 1s;

enum 10s;  

}

= }<= /span>

 

I=A1=AFve noticed some Nits = and nits in the text. The former

Summary: 1 error (**), 0 fla= ws (~~), 2 warnings (=3D=3D), 1 comment (--).

you can fix and check with i= dnits in verbose mode on Community Tools page. I can help with the latter i= f you kindly can share MS format of the document.

[zit= ao]: Thank you to point out these nits, I=A1=AFd like to fix it.

    &nbs= p;           Regards,

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;  Greg

 

 

-----Original Message----- From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:48 PM
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
Cc: lime@ietf.org
Subject: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt

 

 

A New Internet-Draft is avai= lable from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

This draft is a work item of= the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment of the= IETF.

 

    &nbs= p;   Title         &= nbsp; : Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations, Adminis= tration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols

    &nbs= p;   Authors         : Ti= ssa Senevirathne

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Norman Finn

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Deepak Kumar

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Samer Salam

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Qin Wu

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Michael Wang

    &nbs= p;           Filename&nbs= p;       : draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.= txt

    &nbs= p;           Pages &= nbsp;         : 47

    &nbs= p;           Date &n= bsp;          : 2016-02-29

 

Abstract:<= /p>

   This document p= resents a base YANG Data model for connection oriented

   OAM protocols.&= nbsp; It provides a technology-independent abstraction of=

   key OAM constru= cts for connection oriented protocols.  Based model<= /p>

   presented here = can be extended to include technology specific

   details.  = This is leading to uniformity between OAM protocols and

   support nested = OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at

   different level= s through a unified interface).

 

 

The IETF datatracker status = page for this draft is:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lim= e-yang-oam-model/

 

There's also a htmlized vers= ion available at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-o= am-model-02

 

A diff from the previous ver= sion is available at:

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-= ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02

 

 

Please note that it may take= a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version= and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

 

Internet-Drafts are also ava= ilable by anonymous FTP at:

f= tp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

 

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Hi Greg,

 

Some thoughts=A1=AD

 

I believe the cc-interval defined in draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-mod= el-02 is cc-transmit-interval. The same as cc-interval in TRILL which is al= so referred to cc-transmit-interval.

Therefore cc-interval is technology independent parameter and cou= ld be changed into cc-transmit-interval to make this more clear.=

 

To support 3.3ms,we can consider the following two approaches:

1.Change unit from milliseconds into microseconds

=A1=B0

  typedef transmit-Interval {

    type uint32;

    units "milliseconds";

    default "1000";

    description

      "Interval between packets in = milliseconds.

       0 means no packets are sent.= ";

  }

=A1=B1

2. Change type uint32 into decimal64

typedef transmit-Interval{

type decimal64{

  fraction-digits 2;

 units "milliseconds";

 description

 =A1=B0Interval between packets in milliseconds.<= /span>

   0 means no packets are sent.";

}

}

 

Hope it helps. Thanks again for your review and comments.

 

Best Regards,

 

Yan

 

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Lime [m= ailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA= =B1=ED Gregory Mirsky
=B7=A2= =CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2016=C4=EA3=D4=C28=C8=D5 8:20
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: wangzitao; internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org
=B3=AD=CB=CD: lime@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt

 

Hi Mich= ael,

thank y= ou for your consideration. I think that set may be better option.

Another= , rather general observation. The Abstract states:

=A1=B0I= t provides a technology-independent abstraction of key OAM constructs for c= onnection oriented protocols.=A1=B1

but we = can find many examples, e.g. definition of CC intervals, of technology spec= ific. It could be that augmenting TRILL OAM and MPLS-TP OAM YANG models (dr= aft-zhang-mpls-tp-yang-oam-02 for MPLS-TP) would be path to truly technology-independent abstraction. What do you thi= nk? What others think?

&n= bsp;

 &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;  Regards,

 &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;     Greg

&n= bsp;

From: wangzitao [ma= ilto:wangzitao@huawei.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 10:05 PM
To: Gregory Mirsky; inte= rnet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org
Cc: lime@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.tx= t

 

Hi Greg,

 

Thank you for these good comments!

Please see Inline.

 

Best Regards!

Michael

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Lime [<= a href=3D"mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA= =B1=ED Gregory Mirsky
=B7=A2= =CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2016=C4=EA3=D4=C25=C8=D5 12:51
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-= announce@ietf.org
=B3=AD=CB=CD: lime@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt

 

Dear Authors, et. al,

thank you for updating the m= odel and clarifying its applicability. Below are my notes on the new versio= n that we can discuss on the list and/or at the meeting:<= /p>

=A1=A4         I think that the list i= n the description includes technologies, i.e. mpls, that are not connection= -oriented:

"this is the base identy of technology types which are TRILL,mpls,vpl= s etc";

perhaps mpls-tp would be better.

and s/indent/identity/

[zitao]: agree=

=A1=A4         I think that Interval m= ust have been set of values, not int32 without a range. I believe that anyt= hing less than 3.3 millisecond would not be supported by any OAM protocol. = But 3.3 msec cannot be configured through current definition of the Interval. That can be done if Interval b= eing expressed in microseconds. But we still don=A1=AFt need range, we need= set 3.3 msec, 10 msec, 100msec, 1 sec, 10 sec. 1 minute and 10 minutes are= questionable. These are intervals from Ethernet OAM. RFC 7419 recommends somewhat different set of intervals for = HW-based implementation of BFD - 3.3 msec, 10 msec, 20 msec, 50 msec, 100 m= sec, and 1 sec.

=  

= [zitao]: I th= ink an enumeration type can address this issue like:

=  

leaf interval {

type enumeration {

enum 3.3ms;

enum 10ms;

enum 20ms;

enum 50ms;

enum 100ms;

enum 1s;

enum 10s;  

}

= }<= /span>

 

I=A1=AFve noticed some Nits = and nits in the text. The former

Summary: 1 error (**), 0 fla= ws (~~), 2 warnings (=3D=3D), 1 comment (--).

you can fix and check with i= dnits in verbose mode on Community Tools page. I can help with the latter i= f you kindly can share MS format of the document.

[zit= ao]: Thank you to point out these nits, I=A1=AFd like to fix it.

    &nbs= p;           Regards,

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;  Greg

 

 

-----Original Message----- From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:48 PM
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
Cc: lime@ietf.org
Subject: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.txt

 

 

A New Internet-Draft is avai= lable from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

This draft is a work item of= the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment of the= IETF.

 

    &nbs= p;   Title         &= nbsp; : Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations, Adminis= tration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols

    &nbs= p;   Authors         : Ti= ssa Senevirathne

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Norman Finn

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Deepak Kumar

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Samer Salam

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Qin Wu

    &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Michael Wang

    &nbs= p;           Filename&nbs= p;       : draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02.= txt

    &nbs= p;           Pages &= nbsp;         : 47

    &nbs= p;           Date &n= bsp;          : 2016-02-29

 

Abstract:<= /p>

   This document p= resents a base YANG Data model for connection oriented

   OAM protocols.&= nbsp; It provides a technology-independent abstraction of=

   key OAM constru= cts for connection oriented protocols.  Based model<= /p>

   presented here = can be extended to include technology specific

   details.  = This is leading to uniformity between OAM protocols and

   support nested = OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at

   different level= s through a unified interface).

 

 

The IETF datatracker status = page for this draft is:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lim= e-yang-oam-model/

 

There's also a htmlized vers= ion available at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-o= am-model-02

 

A diff from the previous ver= sion is available at:

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-= ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02

 

 

Please note that it may take= a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version= and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

 

Internet-Drafts are also ava= ilable by anonymous FTP at:

f= tp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

 

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DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR05MB1996; H:CY1PR05MB1994.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 17 Mar 2016 14:11:24.2581 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1PR05MB1996 Archived-At: Cc: Benoit Claise , "Carlos Pignataro \(cpignata\)" Subject: [Lime] Planing for IETF 95 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 14:11:43 -0000 Folks, It is time to plan for IETF 95. At this meeting, the chairs expect presenta= tion on the following drafts: - draft-kumar-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-00 - draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-02 If you are presenting one of these drafts, of if you have another draft tha= t you would like to present, please unicast the chairs. Ron Bonica From nobody Sun Mar 20 17:54:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietf.org Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C6F12D6F8; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 17:54:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.17.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160321005428.8922.67018.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 17:54:28 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: lime@ietf.org Subject: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-kumar-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-01.txt X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:54:29 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment of the IETF. Title : Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Less Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols Authors : Deepak Kumar Michael Wang Qin Wu Reshad Rahman Filename : draft-kumar-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-01.txt Pages : 61 Date : 2016-03-20 Abstract: This document presents a base YANG Data model for connectionless OAM protocols. It provides a technology-independent abstraction of key OAM constructs for connectionless protocols. Based model presented here can be extended to include technology specific details. This is leading to uniformity between OAM protocols and support nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different or same levels through a unified interface). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kumar-lime-yang-connectionless-oam/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kumar-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-kumar-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Mar 20 21:49:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietf.org Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9D412D50F; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 21:49:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.17.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160321044903.8921.56254.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 21:49:03 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: lime@ietf.org Subject: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-03.txt X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 04:49:03 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment of the IETF. Title : Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols Authors : Tissa Senevirathne Norman Finn Deepak Kumar Samer Salam Qin Wu Michael Wang Filename : draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-03.txt Pages : 47 Date : 2016-03-20 Abstract: This document presents a base YANG Data model for connection oriented OAM protocols. It provides a technology-independent abstraction of key OAM constructs for connection oriented protocols. Based model presented here can be extended to include technology specific details. This is leading to uniformity between OAM protocols and support nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different levels through a unified interface). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:58:33 -0000 --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A22E77eusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Authors of LIME base model extension for BFD Support, I'd like to bring to your attention that the BFD WG has been working on and= already adopted Yang Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BF= D). It seems that your document would benefit from considering the data mod= el developed by BFD WG and aligning LIME adaptation for all variants of BFD= , e.g. single-hop, multi-hop, BFD over MPLS LSP, and micro-BFD. Please note= that BFD for multi-point networks and S-BFD are completing their work and = their data models likely to be added in due time. 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Dear Authors of LIME base model extension for BFD Su= pport,

I’d like to bring to your attention that the B= FD WG has been working on and already adopted Yang Data Model for Bidirecti= onal Forwarding Detection (BFD). It seems that your document would benefit = from considering the data model developed by BFD WG and aligning LIME adaptation for all variants of BFD, e.g. singl= e-hop, multi-hop, BFD over MPLS LSP, and micro-BFD. Please note that BFD fo= r multi-point networks and S-BFD are completing their work and their data m= odels likely to be added in due time.

 

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 02:56:23 -0000 Folks, Thanks for submitting draft-kumar-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-01. While it= is a good start, I think that there are a few major issues. These are: - The description of the model provided in Section 3 doesn't map to the act= ual model provided in 3.6 - The oper object provides statistics on a set of long-lived OAM sessions. = This should be made clear in the document. - the oper object contains cc-ipv4-sessions-statistics and cc-ipv6-sessions= -statistics. These have identical attributes. They might want to be collaps= ed into one - the same comment applies under test-point-locations for IPv4-location and= IPv6-location=20 - Is FEC really an attribute of TP-location? - Under IPv4-location and IPv6-location, does it really make sense to enume= rate all of the tools? We probably won't get the list right. Maybe we shoul= d leave this table empty and allow it to be augmented by the folks who want= to build onto this Yang model? /as individual contributor Ron Bonica From nobody Mon Mar 28 20:10:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6877012D0A6 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:10:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h7B503XAlzvn for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-4.cisco.com (alln-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.142.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FEC412D095 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 20:10:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1593; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1459221017; x=1460430617; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=NdoTdoJsOz52fl0X97BF78ysSJ7p8UkZxMXOysD6GGA=; b=MjOCCJ5M9jClT88PFojCmnE6sphsh9b4CxZUOvZCABsEEHJB0lzyQC6v IsDxNaHz7u+mB5xe1KPelPKvz1TsflolO8GzknHBF20/J/zGSK6un3PNL AJ/8OENDYlDX9+SzZJV2VuXMCMs9ZYMubmzLuRYtqgP3fxj/tobAiZNPR 8=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AFAgBo8flW/5tdJa1dgy5TfQa6dQENg?= =?us-ascii?q?XAXCocWOBQBAQEBAQEBZCeEQgEBBAEBAWsdAQgOXwsnBAESiCcOwHMBAQEBAQU?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQEBFQSGHYREihIFjXaJbgGOBY8NjwsBHgEBQoNlbId8fgEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,409,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="253801511" Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by alln-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 29 Mar 2016 03:10:16 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-005.cisco.com (xch-aln-005.cisco.com [173.36.7.15]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u2T3AGua002277 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 29 Mar 2016 03:10:16 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-004.cisco.com (173.37.102.14) by XCH-ALN-005.cisco.com (173.36.7.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:10:15 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-004.cisco.com ([173.37.102.14]) by XCH-RCD-004.cisco.com ([173.37.102.14]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:10:15 -0500 From: "Deepak Kumar (dekumar)" To: Ronald Bonica , "lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Lime] draft-kumar-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-01 Thread-Index: AQHRiWiE01mfwvAT9EKaFuMdZean+w== Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 03:10:15 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.5.150821 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.24.25.191] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Lime] draft-kumar-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-01 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 03:10:19 -0000 Hi Ronald, Thanks for review. We will try to address the comment and upload new draft once it=B9s open. Inline +++DK: On 3/28/16, 7:56 PM, "Lime on behalf of Ronald Bonica" wrote: >Folks, > >Thanks for submitting draft-kumar-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-01. While >it is a good start, I think that there are a few major issues. These are: > >- The description of the model provided in Section 3 doesn't map to the >actual model provided in 3.6 >- The oper object provides statistics on a set of long-lived OAM >sessions. This should be made clear in the document. >- the oper object contains cc-ipv4-sessions-statistics and >cc-ipv6-sessions-statistics. These have identical attributes. They might >want to be collapsed into one >- the same comment applies under test-point-locations for IPv4-location >and IPv6-location +++DK: Will address the comments. >=20 >- Is FEC really an attribute of TP-location? +++DK: FEC is required for MPLS OAM. >- Under IPv4-location and IPv6-location, does it really make sense to >enumerate all of the tools? We probably won't get the list right. Maybe >we should leave this table empty and allow it to be augmented by the >folks who want to build onto this Yang model? +++DK:Let me discuss with co-authors and if this is not useful we can remove it. Thanks, Deepak > > >/as individual contributor >Ron Bonica > >_______________________________________________ >Lime mailing list >Lime@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime From nobody Wed Mar 30 14:14:51 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA93C12D50B for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:14:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.53 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Q2WgcJtFrkl for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-3.cisco.com (aer-iport-3.cisco.com [173.38.203.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EB1212D1B0 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:14:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=9393; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1459372487; x=1460582087; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:mime-version; bh=ZzvxdtQZ/QrpnxaUn7jHlCKb0Kf0yb+PsTsumkwHUv0=; b=CrEA101+XL/R7ucpGk34RkaMWqmuhZOR9eb0U3Ei9GXCo0OvoQEw/cT1 /q5M3BuY6/+4KZwY5qxCs1kHhOlAMBtyXLbEBfmoHriRavwz62tSwo4TE +9ecXwGlTgtslxjsVkj6NGsGx6IDW/xuS5fDiwmxGbgNMkB+EITF5+Jnt A=; X-Files: signature.asc : 841 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0CvBAA1QfxW/xbLJq1DGoQHfQa8dRcBC?= =?us-ascii?q?YVsAoIbAQEBAQEBZRwLhEEBAQEDAQEBASBLEAsCARkDAQIrAgInCxQHAggCBBM?= =?us-ascii?q?OiBEIDiywNpEMAQEBAQEBAQMBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQ0Ihh6BdAiCSYReDYJTK4IrB?= =?us-ascii?q?Y1FiikBgx6BZm2IFYFmToN/iFqPDwEPU4NnbAEBhz9+AQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,418,1454976000"; d="asc'?scan'208,217";a="634863599" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-1.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 30 Mar 2016 21:14:45 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-018.cisco.com (xch-rtp-018.cisco.com [64.101.220.158]) by aer-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u2ULEhZn030902 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:14:44 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-020.cisco.com (64.101.220.160) by XCH-RTP-018.cisco.com (64.101.220.158) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:14:43 -0400 Received: from xch-rtp-020.cisco.com ([64.101.220.160]) by XCH-RTP-020.cisco.com ([64.101.220.160]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:14:43 -0400 From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" To: "lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [95all] Remote Participation for IETF 95: Meetecho Details Thread-Index: AQHRiskt7mfHNjftykmdlbvOxMqoAA== Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:14:43 +0000 Message-ID: <09D6D37F-B6D3-4160-9457-CD01E8D9CDEF@cisco.com> References: <20160330202243.4795.63685.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.24.85.242] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9EF79014-6DB3-456A-B56E-7DABDA8E4925"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Lime] Fwd: [95all] Remote Participation for IETF 95: Meetecho Details X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:14:50 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_9EF79014-6DB3-456A-B56E-7DABDA8E4925 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_41EB45FC-5BD6-4AEF-9DA8-BEF9CE5C0C04" --Apple-Mail=_41EB45FC-5BD6-4AEF-9DA8-BEF9CE5C0C04 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 FYI =E2=80=94 details for Remote Participation > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: IETF Secretariat > Subject: [95all] Remote Participation for IETF 95: Meetecho Details > Date: March 30, 2016 at 4:22:43 PM EDT > To: "IETF Announcement List" > Cc: wgchairs@ietf.org, recentattendees@ietf.org, 95all@ietf.org > Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org >=20 > You may use Meetecho to participate in or just observe any session = being held in Buenos Aires. Here are the requirements and details. >=20 > 1. 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You may use Meetecho to = participate in or just observe any session being held in Buenos Aires. = Here are the requirements and details.

1. = Individuals are required to register for the meeting to observe or = participate via Meetecho.
- Individuals are required to = enter registration I.D and name when logging into a session via = Meetecho
- The name must match that used to register for = the meeting
- Please register even if you are = participating as part of remote hub
- There is no cost to = register as a remote attendee. Register here:http://ietf.org/meeting/register.html.

2. Participation includes the ability to transmit audio and = video via the Meetecho virtual queue.
- The virtual queue = permits remote attendees to share audio and video if they choose, see = here for more information: https://ietf95.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/UMPIRE_Project- Anyone who thinks they may want to participate by = transmitting audio / video should perform the Meetecho self-test prior = to the start of the session: http://ietf95.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Self_Test

3. WG Chairs will control the virtual queue, = unmuting and muting of remote participants

4.= The agenda for the WG sessions, as well as more detail on how to use = Meetecho to participate, can be found here: https://ietf95.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/.

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