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Thanks Michael,

I sent the document to IETF LC.

Regards, Benoit
> Hi WG,
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> This version addressed the issues arose by AD review and Yangdoctors early review.
> More details please review the document.
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> Best Regards!
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment WG of the IETF.
>
>          Title           : Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols
>          Authors         : Deepak Kumar
>                            Qin Wu
>                            Michael Wang
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-04.txt
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> 	Date            : 2018-01-30
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> Abstract:
>     This document presents a base YANG Data model for connection oriented
>     OAM protocols.  It provides a technology-independent abstraction of
>     key OAM constructs for such protocols.  The model presented here can
>     be extended to include technology specific details.  This guarantees
>     uniformity in the management of OAM protocols and provides support
>     for nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different
>     levels through a unified interface)
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>     The YANG model in this document conforms to the Network Management
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>     [I-D.ietf-netmod-revised-datastores].
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The IESG has received a request from the Layer Independent OAM Management in
the Multi-Layer Environment WG (lime) to consider the following document: -
'Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations,
   Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols'
  <draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-04.txt> as Proposed
  Standard

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Abstract


   This document presents a base YANG Data model for connection oriented
   OAM protocols.  It provides a technology-independent abstraction of
   key OAM constructs for such protocols.  The model presented here can
   be extended to include technology specific details.  This guarantees
   uniformity in the management of OAM protocols and provides support
   for nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different
   levels through a unified interface)

   The YANG model in this document conforms to the Network Management
   Datastore Architecture defined in
   [I-D.ietf-netmod-revised-datastores].




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.


The document contains these normative downward references.
See RFC 3967 for additional information: 
    rfc6905: Requirements for Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) in Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links (TRILL) (Informational - IETF stream)




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 Dear Authors, et. al,
thank you for your dedication to this work. Please kindly consider my
comments, as I've shared them January 31st, for the IETF LC :
- this document introduces YANG data model of connection-oriented OAM
protocols. I couldn't find the definition or reference to normative
definition of the connection-oriented OAM. As we've discussed, I
believe that the definition of the channel forwarding in G.800 in
section 6.3.1, specifically for connection-oriented packet switching,
is the one we can use similarly to the definition of connectionless
OAM in draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam. And the fact that both
documents share one source of definitions, in my view, is advantage of
consistent dictionary.
- "This is the base identy of technology types which are
TRILL,MPLS-TP,vpls etc" Had VPLS been characterized as CO-PS? Not to
get into the discussion, perhaps stop after MPLS-TP be acceptable. And
I encourage to omit other references to VPLS in the document:
            - "... or for VPLS this can be per VPLS instance [RFC6136]."
            - " a VRF for VPLS,"
- what is the benefit to have specific ipv4-address and ipv6-address
in 'choice mep-address' rather than ip-address imported from
inet:ip-address?
- I think that 'leaf packet-size' is related to packet padding, not
the actual size of the test packet as there's always minimum size
determined by the corresponding technology and thus the packet size
cannot be smaller than the minimum size of, for example, LBM. Current
range for the leaf packet-size in rpc continuity-check is 0...10000
and in rpc continuity-verification the range is 64 ... 10000 (why such
inconsistency?). Test packet of 0 bytes doesn't seem practical while
test packet with 0 bytes of padding/payload does. And though we'd like
to use default for zero-touch (almost zero-touch), this is very
technology-specific parameter (compare Ethernet LBM and MPLS LSP
Ping).


Nits:
- s/interface)/interface)./
- consistency in using YANG vs. Yang throughout the document should be
achieved.
- s/../maintenance-domain]/co-oam:mas/co-oam:ma[/../maintenanc
e-domain]/co-oam:mas/co-oam:ma/
- s/CoS field in MPLS-TP/TC field in MPLS-TP/

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:07 PM, The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org> wrote:

>
> The IESG has received a request from the Layer Independent OAM Management
> in
> the Multi-Layer Environment WG (lime) to consider the following document: -
> 'Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations,
>    Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols'
>   <draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-04.txt> as Proposed
>   Standard
>
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2018-02-19. Exceptionally, comments may be
> sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
> beginning of
> the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
>
> Abstract
>
>
>    This document presents a base YANG Data model for connection oriented
>    OAM protocols.  It provides a technology-independent abstraction of
>    key OAM constructs for such protocols.  The model presented here can
>    be extended to include technology specific details.  This guarantees
>    uniformity in the management of OAM protocols and provides support
>    for nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different
>    levels through a unified interface)
>
>    The YANG model in this document conforms to the Network Management
>    Datastore Architecture defined in
>    [I-D.ietf-netmod-revised-datastores].
>
>
>
>
> The file can be obtained via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connec
> tion-oriented-oam-model/
>
> IESG discussion can be tracked via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connec
> tion-oriented-oam-model/ballot/
>
>
> No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
>
>
> The document contains these normative downward references.
> See RFC 3967 for additional information:
>     rfc6905: Requirements for Operations, Administration, and Maintenance
> (OAM) in Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links (TRILL)
> (Informational - IETF stream)
>
>
>
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ize:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-cap=
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:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-col=
or:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:ini=
tial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-=
size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-ca=
ps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-inden=
t:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-co=
lor:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:in=
itial;float:none;display:inline">comments, as I&#39;ve shared them January =
31st, for the IETF LC :</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:=
arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:=
normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-=
align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spa=
cing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;te=
xt-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family=
:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures=
:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text=
-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-sp=
acing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;t=
ext-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">- this document int=
roduces YANG data model of connection-oriented OAM</span><br style=3D"color=
:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:nor=
mal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;=
letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;=
white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:no=
rmal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400=
;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none=
;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text=
-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:=
inline">protocols. I couldn&#39;t find the definition or reference to norma=
tive</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant=
-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-in=
dent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background=
-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color=
:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-varian=
t-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-i=
ndent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;backgroun=
d-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-colo=
r:initial;float:none;display:inline">definition of the connection-oriented =
OAM. As we&#39;ve discussed, I</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-=
family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-lig=
atures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;w=
ord-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:ini=
tial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font=
-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-li=
gatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norm=
al;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;=
word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:in=
itial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">believe that=
 the definition of the channel forwarding in G.800 in</span><br style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:=
normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:4=
00;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:no=
ne;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);te=
xt-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style=
:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:=
400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:n=
one;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);t=
ext-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;displ=
ay:inline">section 6.3.1, specifically for connection-oriented packet switc=
hing,</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-varian=
t-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-i=
ndent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;backgroun=
d-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-colo=
r:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;=
font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-=
indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;backgrou=
nd-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-col=
or:initial;float:none;display:inline">is the one we can use similarly to th=
e definition of connectionless</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-=
family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-lig=
atures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;w=
ord-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:ini=
tial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font=
-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-li=
gatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norm=
al;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;=
word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:in=
itial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">OAM in draft=
-ietf-lime-yang-</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial=
,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:norma=
l;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align=
:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:=
0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-de=
coration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">connectio<wbr>nless-oam. =
And the fact that both</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:a=
rial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:n=
ormal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;tex=
t-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:=
arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:=
normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-=
align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spa=
cing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;te=
xt-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">documents share one =
source of definitions, in my view, is advantage of</span><br style=3D"color=
:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:nor=
mal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;=
letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;=
white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:no=
rmal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400=
;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none=
;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text=
-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:=
inline">consistent dictionary.</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-=
family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-lig=
atures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;w=
ord-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:ini=
tial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font=
-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-li=
gatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norm=
al;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;=
word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:in=
itial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">- &quot;This=
 is the base identy of technology types which are</span><br style=3D"color:=
rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:norm=
al;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;l=
etter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;w=
hite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-d=
ecoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color=
:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:nor=
mal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;=
letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;=
white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-=
decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:i=
nline">TRILL,MPLS-TP,vpls etc&quot; Had VPLS been characterized as CO-PS? N=
ot to</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-varian=
t-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-i=
ndent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;backgroun=
d-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-colo=
r:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;=
font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-=
indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;backgrou=
nd-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-col=
or:initial;float:none;display:inline">get into the discussion, perhaps stop=
 after MPLS-TP be acceptable. And</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);fo=
nt-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-=
ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:no=
rmal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norma=
l;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:=
initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);f=
ont-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant=
-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norm=
al;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style=
:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I encoura=
ge to omit other references to VPLS in the document:</span><br style=3D"col=
or:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:n=
ormal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:40=
0;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:non=
e;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);tex=
t-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:=
normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:4=
00;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:no=
ne;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);te=
xt-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;displa=
y:inline">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - &quot;... or for VPLS=
 this can be per VPLS instance [RFC6136].&quot;</span><br style=3D"color:rg=
b(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal=
;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;let=
ter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whi=
te-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-dec=
oration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:r=
gb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:norma=
l;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;le=
tter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;wh=
ite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-de=
coration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inl=
ine">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - &quot; a VRF for VPLS,&quo=
t;</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font=
-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-inde=
nt:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-c=
olor:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:i=
nitial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-=
caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-ind=
ent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-=
color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:=
initial;float:none;display:inline">- what is the benefit to have specific i=
pv4-address and ipv6-address</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-fa=
mily:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligat=
ures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wor=
d-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initi=
al;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-f=
amily:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-liga=
tures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal=
;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wo=
rd-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:init=
ial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">in &#39;choice=
 mep-address&#39; rather than ip-address imported from</span><br style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style=
:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:=
400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:n=
one;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);t=
ext-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"=
color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-styl=
e:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight=
:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:=
none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);=
text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;disp=
lay:inline">inet:ip-address?</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-fa=
mily:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligat=
ures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wor=
d-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initi=
al;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-f=
amily:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-liga=
tures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal=
;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wo=
rd-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:init=
ial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">- I think that=
 &#39;leaf packet-size&#39; is related to packet padding, not</span><br sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;fon=
t-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-=
weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-tran=
sform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255=
,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;fo=
nt-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font=
-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-tra=
nsform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,25=
5,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:no=
ne;display:inline">the actual size of the test packet as there&#39;s always=
 minimum size</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans=
-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;fon=
t-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:star=
t;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;b=
ackground-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decorat=
ion-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;fo=
nt-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:sta=
rt;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;=
background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decora=
tion-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">determined by the correspondi=
ng technology and thus the packet size</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,3=
4);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-var=
iant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spaci=
ng:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:=
normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-s=
tyle:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,=
34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-va=
riant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spac=
ing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space=
:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-=
style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">cann=
ot be smaller than the minimum size of, for example, LBM. Current</span><br=
 style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px=
;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;f=
ont-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-=
transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255=
,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><spa=
n style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8p=
x;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;=
font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text=
-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(25=
5,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;floa=
t:none;display:inline">range for the leaf packet-size in rpc continuity-che=
ck is 0...10000</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;f=
ont-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:st=
art;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px=
;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decor=
ation-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,s=
ans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;=
font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:s=
tart;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0p=
x;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-deco=
ration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">and in rpc continuity-verif=
ication the range is 64 ... 10000 (why such</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34=
,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;fon=
t-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-=
spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decorat=
ion-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(3=
4,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;fo=
nt-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter=
-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-=
space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decora=
tion-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"=
>inconsistency?). Test packet of 0 bytes doesn&#39;t seem practical while</=
span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:=
normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0=
px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color=
:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps=
:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:=
0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-colo=
r:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:init=
ial;float:none;display:inline">test packet with 0 bytes of padding/payload =
does. And though we&#39;d like</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-=
family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-lig=
atures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norma=
l;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;w=
ord-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:ini=
tial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font=
-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-li=
gatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norm=
al;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;=
word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:in=
itial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">to use defau=
lt for zero-touch (almost zero-touch), this is very</span><br style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:no=
rmal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400=
;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none=
;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text=
-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"col=
or:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:n=
ormal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:40=
0;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:non=
e;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);tex=
t-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display=
:inline">technology-specific parameter (compare Ethernet LBM and MPLS LSP</=
span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:=
normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0=
px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color=
:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps=
:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:=
0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-colo=
r:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:init=
ial;float:none;display:inline">Ping).</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34=
);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-vari=
ant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:n=
ormal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-st=
yle:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34)=
;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing=
:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:no=
rmal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-sty=
le:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);=
font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-varian=
t-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:=
normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:nor=
mal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-styl=
e:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34)=
;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing=
:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:no=
rmal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-sty=
le:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Nits:</=
span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:=
normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0=
px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color=
:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps=
:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:=
0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-colo=
r:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:init=
ial;float:none;display:inline">- s/interface)/interface)./</span><br style=
=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-=
style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-we=
ight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transf=
orm:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,2=
55);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font=
-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-w=
eight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-trans=
form:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,=
255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none=
;display:inline">- consistency in using YANG vs. Yang throughout the docume=
nt should be achieved.</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:a=
rial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:n=
ormal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;tex=
t-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:=
arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:=
normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-=
align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spa=
cing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;te=
xt-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">- s/../maintenance-d=
omain]/co-</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-=
serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font=
-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start=
;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;ba=
ckground-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decorati=
on-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">oa<wbr>m:mas/co-oam:ma[/../</sp=
an><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:=
normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0=
px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color=
:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initi=
al;float:none;display:inline">maintenanc<wbr>e-domain]/co-oam:</span><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;=
font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;fo=
nt-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-t=
ransform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,=
255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:=
none;display:inline">mas/co-oam:<wbr>ma/</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34=
,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-v=
ariant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spa=
cing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-spac=
e:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration=
-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,3=
4,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-=
variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-sp=
acing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-spa=
ce:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoratio=
n-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">- =
s/CoS field in MPLS-TP/TC field in MPLS-TP/</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34=
,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;fon=
t-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-=
spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decorat=
ion-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">

<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 5, 20=
18 at 11:07 PM, The IESG <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:iesg-secre=
tary@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">iesg-secretary@ietf.org</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
The IESG has received a request from the Layer Independent OAM Management i=
n<br>
the Multi-Layer Environment WG (lime) to consider the following document: -=
<br>
&#39;Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols&#39;<br>
=C2=A0 &lt;draft-ietf-lime-yang-connecti<wbr>on-oriented-oam-model-04.txt&g=
t; as Proposed<br>
=C2=A0 Standard<br>
<br>
The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final=
<br>
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:ietf@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">ietf@ietf.org</a> mailin=
g lists by 2018-02-19. Exceptionally, comments may be<br>
sent to <a href=3D"mailto:iesg@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">iesg@ietf.org</a=
> instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of<br>
the Subject line to allow automated sorting.<br>
<br>
Abstract<br>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document presents a base YANG Data model for connection o=
riented<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0OAM protocols.=C2=A0 It provides a technology-independent abst=
raction of<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0key OAM constructs for such protocols.=C2=A0 The model present=
ed here can<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0be extended to include technology specific details.=C2=A0 This=
 guarantees<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0uniformity in the management of OAM protocols and provides sup=
port<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0for nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at di=
fferent<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0levels through a unified interface)<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The YANG model in this document conforms to the Network Manage=
ment<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Datastore Architecture defined in<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0[I-D.ietf-netmod-revised-data<wbr>stores].<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
The file can be obtained via<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection=
-oriented-oam-model/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatrac=
ker.ietf.org/d<wbr>oc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connec<wbr>tion-oriented-oam-mod=
el/</a><br>
<br>
IESG discussion can be tracked via<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection=
-oriented-oam-model/ballot/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://d=
atatracker.ietf.org/d<wbr>oc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connec<wbr>tion-oriented-=
oam-model/ballot<wbr>/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.<br>
<br>
<br>
The document contains these normative downward references.<br>
See RFC 3967 for additional information:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 rfc6905: Requirements for Operations, Administration, and Mai=
ntenance (OAM) in Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links (TRILL) (Inf=
ormational - IETF stream)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols
        Authors         : Deepak Kumar
                          Qin Wu
                          Michael Wang
	Filename        : draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-05.txt
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	Date            : 2018-02-08

Abstract:
   This document presents a base YANG Data model for connection oriented
   OAM protocols.  It provides a technology-independent abstraction of
   key OAM constructs for such protocols.  The model presented here can
   be extended to include technology specific details.  This guarantees
   uniformity in the management of OAM protocols and provides support
   for nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different
   levels through a unified interface).

   The YANG model in this document conforms to the Network Management
   Datastore Architecture defined in
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Thank you, Michael and Authors for your thoughtful consideration of the
comments. All have been addressed.

Regards,
Greg

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 4:23 PM, wangzitao <wangzitao@huawei.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> We updated the document to address the comments raised by Greg.
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> Best Regards!
> -Michael
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Reviewer: Joe Clarke
Review result: Has Issues

I have been asked to review  draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model
 on behalf of the Ops Directorate.  This document defines a generic YANG data
model for connection-oriented OAM that is designed to be extended for other
protocols' uses of OAM.  Insofar as that is concerned, I do think the document
does a good job.  Where I think there are issues is with section 7.  I feel the
specifics discussed concerning TRILL and MPLS-TP go beyond example usage and
cover areas of extension that would be better left for specific documents
concerning TRILL and MPLS-TP.  For example, when technology type extensions are
covered, it prescribes the specific wording of the YANG identity augmentations.
 But what happens if those subsequent documents deviate from this?

Beyond the issue of scope conflation, I found a few minor issues/nits in the
text.  One overall comment is the inconsistent use of capitalization.  For
example, sometimes "verification" is capitalized (e.g., Connectivity
Verification) and sometimes it is not (e.g., Fault verification).  A sweep
should be made to make sure any capitalized noun has some specific meaning
(else make them lowercase).

Section 1:

OLD:

Monitor networks connections (Connectivity Verification,

NEW:

Monitor network connections (Connectivity Verification,

===

Section 1:

You refer to RFC7276 for an overview of OAM.  Good.  It is.  But then in this
same section you say, "but control information is required to identify the
destination (e.g., [G.800] and [RFC7276])."  You refer again to RFC7276 when
you speak about additional control information.  But you do not reference
_where_ in this document to find that information.  The whole document itself
is not about this control information.

===

Section 1:

You use abbreviations LBM and LTM before defining them.  And I didn't see LTM
listed in your terminology list.

===

Section 5:

In the typedef for time-interval, you specify what 0 means, but what does a
negative number mean?  Perhaps you should add a range qualifier to make sure
this value cannot be negative?

===

Section 5 (coupled with Section 6):

You specify that the base mode includes certain defaults, one of which being
that the MEP address is the IP address of the interface on which the MEP is
located.  But in the YANG model, ip-address is not the default for mep-address
(there is no default).  Should it be?

===

Section 5:

In the rpc for traceroute, you use "it's" twice in the description.  Both uses
should be "its" without the apostrophe.

===

Section 8:

While I'm not the security directory rep, the wording "These data nodes may be
considered sensitive or vulnerable in some network environments" seemed odd to
me.  Sensitive I get.  But vulnerable I see as these data nodes are somehow
weaker than others.  Unless the security directorate feels otherwise, I would
drop the word vulnerable.  I think sensitive covers it as you go on to say that
they can adversely affect network operations if misused.



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One question:
Does this YANG model somehow relate to the lmap YANG model (RFC8194)? I mean at
least one could probably also use lmap to configure a traceroute in some
intervals鈥

One editorial comment:
sec 1: This sentence is superfluous as inherently true: 鈥濧ll implementations
that follow the YANG framework presented in this
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I am balltoing NoObj, trusting the Responsible AD to do the right thing.

Joe Clarke's OpsDir review
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It seems to me that the reference to IEEE802.1ag should be Normative.

"  In this document, we take the CFM [IEEE802.1ag] model and
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I found some small editorial nits while reviewing this document.

搂2.2:

>  Connectivity Verification  - Connectivity Verification are used to
>     verify that a destination is connected.  It are also referred to

"...is used to..."

搂3:

>  In this document we define a generic YANG model for connection
>  oriented OAM protocols.  The YANG model defined here is generic in a

Hyphenate "connection-oriented".

>  sense that other technologies can extend it for technology specific
>  needs.

Hyphenate "technology-specific".

>  Figure 1 depicts relationship of different YANG modules.

This sentence seems redundant with the earlier "Figure 1 depicts..." statement.


>          |                    |                  |
>   +-------------------------------------------------------+
>   |                      Uniform API                      |
>   +-------------------------------------------------------+
>
>       Relationship of OAM YANG model to generic (base) YANG model

I presume this is Figure 1. It probably should say so.


In the module:

> typedef ma-name-string {
>   type string;
>   description
>     "Generic administrative name for an
>      Maintenance Association (MA).";
> }

"...for a Maintenance..."



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Hi Mirja,
> Mirja K眉hlewind has entered the following ballot position for
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> One question:
> Does this YANG model somehow relate to the lmap YANG model (RFC8194)?
It doesn't.
> I mean at
> least one could probably also use lmap to configure a traceroute in some
> intervals鈥
Yes, LMAP agents could send OAM traffic.
Now, we have not made the link between the previous LIME documents and LMAP.

Regards, B.
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> One editorial comment:
> sec 1: This sentence is superfluous as inherently true: 鈥濧ll implementations
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols
        Authors         : Deepak Kumar
                          Qin Wu
                          Michael Wang
	Filename        : draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-06.txt
	Pages           : 52
	Date            : 2018-02-21

Abstract:
   This document presents a base YANG Data model for connection-oriented
   Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols.  It
   provides a technology-independent abstraction of key OAM constructs
   for such protocols.  The model presented here can be extended to
   include technology specific details.  This guarantees uniformity in
   the management of OAM protocols and provides support for nested OAM
   workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different levels through
   a unified interface).

   The YANG model in this document conforms to the Network Management
   Datastore Architecture.


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IEEE 802.1ag (an amendment to 802.1Q-2005) was subsumed into (and 
superseded by) IEEE 802.1Q-2011.聽 You should refer to the latest version 
of 802.1Q (which I believe is 802.1Q-2014).


 聽聽聽 David


On 22/02/2018 04:05, Qin Wu wrote:
> I have moved IEEE802.1ag to normative, note that there is no other RFCs reference IEEE802.1ag.
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> It seems to me that the reference to IEEE802.1ag should be Normative.
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I didn't really get through this, but I had a few editorial points.

It's almost certainly my unfamiliarity with the setting, but I found it
a bit hard to understand the context of this document. I think there
were two things I found a bit confusing:

1. Why you need a separate model for connectionless and connection-oriented
   OAM?

2. What sort of concepts should I be having in my head for MD,
   MA, and MEP? Are these kind of like "site", "link", and "endpoint"?

This may all be completely clear to people with OAM experience in
these settings, in which case feel free to ignore me. But it did
make it a bit hard for this layperson to read.



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On 2/22/2018 10:22 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
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>
> I didn't really get through this, but I had a few editorial points.
>
> It's almost certainly my unfamiliarity with the setting, but I found it
> a bit hard to understand the context of this document. I think there
> were two things I found a bit confusing:
>
> 1. Why you need a separate model for connectionless and connection-oriented
>     OAM?
The WG tried to a single model for both connectionless and 
connection-oriented (the charter didn't make the distinction), but that 
proved difficult. Therefore, It was decided to go with two different models.
Maybe we could have added this piece of history in the write-up.

Regards, Benoit

>
> 2. What sort of concepts should I be having in my head for MD,
>     MA, and MEP? Are these kind of like "site", "link", and "endpoint"?
>
> This may all be completely clear to people with OAM experience in
> these settings, in which case feel free to ignore me. But it did
> make it a bit hard for this layperson to read.
>
>
> .
>


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On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> wrote:

> On 2/22/2018 10:22 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>
>> Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-06: No Record
>>
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>>
>>
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>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connec
>> tion-oriented-oam-model/
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> COMMENT:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I didn't really get through this, but I had a few editorial points.
>>
>> It's almost certainly my unfamiliarity with the setting, but I found it
>> a bit hard to understand the context of this document. I think there
>> were two things I found a bit confusing:
>>
>> 1. Why you need a separate model for connectionless and
>> connection-oriented
>>     OAM?
>>
> The WG tried to a single model for both connectionless and
> connection-oriented (the charter didn't make the distinction), but that
> proved difficult. Therefore, It was decided to go with two different models.
> Maybe we could have added this piece of history in the write-up.
>
>
It would have helped me a bit to have a sentence for why. Perhaps something
like
"A companion document [REF] provides a model for connectionless protocols.
In the judgement of the
working group, these settings were sufficiently different to justify
distinct models"

-Ekr

Regards, Benoit
>
>
>> 2. What sort of concepts should I be having in my head for MD,
>>     MA, and MEP? Are these kind of like "site", "link", and "endpoint"?
>>
>> This may all be completely clear to people with OAM experience in
>> these settings, in which case feel free to ignore me. But it did
>> make it a bit hard for this layperson to read.
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>

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.<br>
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On 2/22/2018 10:43 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com 
> <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 2/22/2018 10:22 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>
>         Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for
>         draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-06: No Record
>
>         When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply
>         to all
>         email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to
>         cut this
>         introductory paragraph, however.)
>
>
>         Please refer to
>         https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
>         <https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html>
>         for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>
>
>         The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found
>         here:
>         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model/
>         <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model/>
>
>
>
>         ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>         COMMENT:
>         ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>         I didn't really get through this, but I had a few editorial
>         points.
>
>         It's almost certainly my unfamiliarity with the setting, but I
>         found it
>         a bit hard to understand the context of this document. I think
>         there
>         were two things I found a bit confusing:
>
>         1. Why you need a separate model for connectionless and
>         connection-oriented
>         聽 聽 OAM?
>
>     The WG tried to a single model for both connectionless and
>     connection-oriented (the charter didn't make the distinction), but
>     that proved difficult. Therefore, It was decided to go with two
>     different models.
>     Maybe we could have added this piece of history in the write-up.
>
>
> It would have helped me a bit to have a sentence for why. Perhaps 
> something like
> "A companion document [REF] provides a model for connectionless 
> protocols. In the judgement of the
> working group, these settings were sufficiently different to justify 
> distinct models"
That's an easy fix.

Regards, B.
>
> -Ekr
>
>     Regards, Benoit
>
>
>         2. What sort of concepts should I be having in my head for MD,
>         聽 聽 MA, and MEP? Are these kind of like "site", "link", and
>         "endpoint"?
>
>         This may all be completely clear to people with OAM experience in
>         these settings, in which case feel free to ignore me. But it did
>         make it a bit hard for this layperson to read.
>
>
>         .
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 7:29 AM,
            Benoit Claise <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                href="mailto:bclaise@cisco.com" target="_blank"
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            wrote:<br>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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                class="">On 2/22/2018 10:22 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote:<br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot
                  position for<br>
                  draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectio<wbr>n-oriented-oam-model-06:
                  No Record<br>
                  <br>
                  When responding, please keep the subject line intact
                  and reply to all<br>
                  email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel
                  free to cut this<br>
                  introductory paragraph, however.)<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Please refer to <a
                    href="https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html"
                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ietf.org/iesg/stat<wbr>ement/discuss-criteria.html</a><br>
                  for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT
                  positions.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  The document, along with other ballot positions, can
                  be found here:<br>
                  <a
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                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://datatracker.ietf.org/d<wbr>oc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connec<wbr>tion-oriented-oam-model/</a><br>
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                  ------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>----------<br>
                  <br>
                  I didn't really get through this, but I had a few
                  editorial points.<br>
                  <br>
                  It's almost certainly my unfamiliarity with the
                  setting, but I found it<br>
                  a bit hard to understand the context of this document.
                  I think there<br>
                  were two things I found a bit confusing:<br>
                  <br>
                  1. Why you need a separate model for connectionless
                  and connection-oriented<br>
                  聽 聽 OAM?<br>
                </blockquote>
              </span>
              The WG tried to a single model for both connectionless and
              connection-oriented (the charter didn't make the
              distinction), but that proved difficult. Therefore, It was
              decided to go with two different models.<br>
              Maybe we could have added this piece of history in the
              write-up.<br>
              <br>
            </blockquote>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>It would have helped me a bit to have a sentence for
              why. Perhaps something like</div>
            <div>"A companion document [REF] provides a model for
              connectionless protocols. In the judgement of the</div>
            <div>working group, these settings were sufficiently
              different to justify distinct models"</div>
          </div>
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    </blockquote>
    That's an easy fix.<br>
    <br>
    Regards, B.<br>
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            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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              Regards, Benoit<br>
              <br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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                  class="">
                  <br>
                  2. What sort of concepts should I be having in my head
                  for MD,<br>
                  聽 聽 MA, and MEP? Are these kind of like "site",
                  "link", and "endpoint"?<br>
                  <br>
                  This may all be completely clear to people with OAM
                  experience in<br>
                  these settings, in which case feel free to ignore me.
                  But it did<br>
                  make it a bit hard for this layperson to read.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                </span>
                .<br>
                <br>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols
        Authors         : Deepak Kumar
                          Qin Wu
                          Michael Wang
	Filename        : draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-07.txt
	Pages           : 53
	Date            : 2018-02-25

Abstract:
   This document presents a base YANG Data model for connection-oriented
   Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols.  It
   provides a technology-independent abstraction of key OAM constructs
   for such protocols.  The model presented here can be extended to
   include technology specific details.  This guarantees uniformity in
   the management of OAM protocols and provides support for nested OAM
   workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different levels through
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   The YANG model in this document conforms to the Network Management
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The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations,
   Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols'
  (draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-07.txt) as Proposed
  Standard

This document is the product of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the
Multi-Layer Environment Working Group.

The IESG contact persons are Warren Kumari and Benoit Claise.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model/





Technical Summary

This document presents a base YANG Data model for connection oriented OAM protocols.  It provides a technology-independent abstraction of  key OAM constructs for such protocols.  The model presented here can  be extended to include technology specific details.  This guarantees  uniformity in the management of OAM protocols and provides support  for nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different  levels through a unified interface)

Working Group Summary

The WG took some time to reach consensus, but finally did after in-person working sessions.

Document Quality

Are there existing implementations of the protocol? 

Huawei has an implementation based on an  early version of draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-01, which has been demonstrated in one past IETF meeting.
Huawei  also has a TRILL OAM model implementation which is extension of CO model defined in this document.

Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? 

To my knowledge, one, possibly two.

 Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? 

 Greg Mirsky did significant reviews and offered many comments.

If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted?

Carl Moberg is doing the Yang Doctor review.

Personnel

Ron Bonica is the document shepherd. Benoit Claise is the responsible AD


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Dear all,

The IESG just approved the last LIME document, our last LIME 
deliverable. Therefore, it now sits in the RFC-editor, along with the 
other LIME specifications.

Our mission is now finished, it's now time to close the WG.
While this is a success already, the next success will happen when the 
LIME YANG modules will be augmented for existing and new OAM mechanisms.

Let me thank the co-chairs Carlos and Ron for their guidance, the 
document editors and authors, the reviewers and the entire working group 
for their feedback and perseverance.

The mailing list will remain open for some time.

Regards, Benoit




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The Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment 
(lime) WG in the Operations and Management Area has concluded. The IESG 
contact persons are Benoit Claise and Warren Kumari.

The IESG just approved the last LIME document, our last LIME
deliverable. Therefore, it now sits in the RFC-editor, along with the
other LIME specifications.

Our mission is now finished, it's now time to close the WG. While this
is a success already, the next success will happen when the LIME YANG
modules will be augmented for existing and new OAM mechanisms.

Let me thank the co-chairs Carlos and Ron for their guidance, the
document editors and authors, the reviewers and the entire working
group for their feedback and perseverance.

The mailing list will remain open for some time.

Regards, 
Benoit

